Stoke time…

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Missing Stoke today. First and only 3 o’clock of the season. Real shame that. The Beer weather is what I’d call optimal.
Big game today. Post breaks are always tricky. Stoke are missing Affellay and Charlie Adams. Which means we have a better chance of smashing them I’d guess?
We need a fast start. None of this easing in nonsense. We need a showing today. This is a good chance to kick the season off properly. We have some hard games this term and Champions League drops back into the mix which will make things decidedly trickier.
Wenger has been bantering with media about the soft upbringing of kids in the modern era. Interesting that most people I speak to in the game tell me Arsenal are beyond over the top compared to others. We pamper the players to the max!
If you want tougher kids, beast them or make them work for their living. Happens everywhere else. Also, stop buying in middle class kids and get a bit of working class slaaaaaag in there. That’d shake it up a bit.
Truth is, if you’re good enough, you make it regardless of what you train on. Reverting back to the good old days is a bit twee. It’s the defence of someone who has run out of ideas. Or someone who is tired. When you control the environment and how players are trained, you should do something about soft players. Funny, if that comment came from Fat Sam we’d all be recoiling at the comment.
Wenger also went on the build press around a lack of options in the striking department, citing Spain and Germany as examples of successful teams succeeding without a specialist striker. He also made the bold claim that people questioned his faith in Nic Anelka and Thierry.
Not sure I remember that ever being they buzz. On striker was so electric Wenger has to drop his senior counterpart. He was literally the most exciting thing in the Premier League from day one. Same with Thierry. The boy was a young World Cup winner. Hardly a massive story that we were playing him. Pace, movement and pure unadulterated talent.
Anyway, Wenger said he’d prefer a spread of scorers. Which is fine. But let’s get them scoring ASAP!
Right, that’s me done. See you tomorrow.

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  1. Azagunner

    haha sorry daz if you wanted to continue. morning to you from australia though, where the game is starting at midnight :p atleast its an early one, sort of

  2. Leedsgunner

    If Chelsea lose today it will mean even a bigger challenge for us next week. They will be desperate to get a win against us. Sadly if our recent track record is anything to go by, we are often too obliging in giving a struggling team a leg up.Let’s hope we can heap even more pressure on Chelsea by winning today. I don’t care if we win beautiful or ugly… I just want the three points. We need to make most of Chelsea faltering this season.

  3. MidwestGun

    Giroud could have grown up playing on a dirt road whilst playing with an orange. He would still be slow.
    If Wenger wants to toughen his players up he should deny them hair gel for a few months.

    Anyhow, don’t see how that’s relevant to finding nobody with a ginormous pile of cash to spend.

  4. Goonergirl


    Its just another lame excuse from Wenger. Can’t believe some people actually believe it. Looks like Walcott up front again.

  5. TT

    Giraud on the bench and Wally starting up front. this against a team playing at the Grove which will have two banks of 4 right on their penalty box!

    FFS the old git has lost his marbles :/

  6. Jeff

    33 Cech
    24 Bellerín
    05 Gabriel
    06 Koscielny
    18 Monreal
    34 Coquelin
    19 Cazorla
    16 Ramsey
    11 Özil
    17 Sánchez
    14 Walcott


    02 Debuchy
    03 Gibbs
    08 Arteta
    12 Giroud
    13 Ospina
    15 Oxlade-Chamberlain
    28 Campbell

  7. Goonergirl


    I’ve been good just so busy. Yeah I’m watching the Chelsea game as well. So happy to see them losing lol. And the team sheet is out.


  8. tom

    History of injuries is curious.
    Why do AFC suffer more than their rivals?
    It has nothing to do with their top drawer medical team or facilities.
    Perhaps playing youngsters has contributed a little but more than that, I believe, is the style and quality of their game which draws challenges and fouls at a higher rate.
    What do others think?

  9. tom

    Arsene’s remarks are general observations on the nature of the present market.
    They are interesting and, in my opinion, accurate.

    He couldn’t order breakfast without drawing criticism here.

  10. MidwestGun

    Tom –
    The common denominator across all the years of us suffering injury after injury is AW. Sometimes the most obvious answer is the answer.
    Luck, training methods, type of player we buy,youth development. Doesn’t matter. Fact is we suffered injuries at ridiculous levels and it took years for AW to even acknowledge it and look into it.

    Naismith having the match of his life. Fuck off Mourinho!

  11. NiNe

    It’s good to change things but I was really expecting Ox to start. It’s a home game and a fluid front three with power and pace should be fantastic. Not a bad XI but I’ll always be worried during set-pieces. I pray we win

  12. WrightIsGod

    Everton have well and truly mugged of Chelsea


    Barkley is playing really well at the moment. Great touch, strength and decision making.

  13. Arsene's Nurse

    September 12, 2015 13:02:04

    Giroud could have grown up playing on a dirt road whilst playing with an orange. He would still be slow.
    If Wenger wants to toughen his players up he should deny them hair gel for a few months.
    Sanogo learnt his football playing with a coconut on the stairs.

    Agree with taking away their hair gel. I want Giroud to be attacked with a set of clippers: grade-0 all over. If he hasn’t got any hair to worry about messing up perhaps he’ll concentrate on his football.

  14. Goondawg


    Squawka FootballVerified account
    Cesc Fàbregas’ game by numbers:

    0 tackles won
    0 aerial duels won
    0 interceptions
    0 assists
    0 shots
    0 crosses

  15. NiNe


    Every team in the EPL can always challenge for the top 4. It’s still early though but they sure can if they can sustain these kind of performances.

    So happy Chelsea are being spanked so hard

  16. WrightIsGod

    The most annoying thing about the Walcott situation is that he has always played his best and scored most goals from the right.

    If I’m Wenger I’m telling Walcott play on the wing or f off.

    Anyone remember that season RVP scored 30 and Walcott was smashing in goals to the right of him?

  17. tom

    Arsenal’s worst and most notorious injuries have been leg breaks caused by foul play. Not Wenger’s fault in any way. Unless you blame him for using players that are hard to tackle legally.

    Should Arsenal abandon their style for lack of protection?

  18. WrightIsGod

    I would love Goroud to take initiative and shave off his hair, like what Beckham did after World Cup 98′. Just come out all badass, sticking middle fingers up at people and playing the best football of his life.

    Shame all Arsenal boys are soft spice boys.

  19. Bamford10

    More dumb ruminations from Wenger.

    Today’s midfielders are the product of the same pitches/conditions as today’s forwards. Are the former wanting? No.

    RVP was the product of ideal pitches/conditions. Was he wanting as a CF? No.

    Sure, different conditions produce different players, but this has nothing to do with this alleged dearth of strikers. That is more likely to do with what is emphasized at youth level and in training these days.

    But none of that is any excuse for dipshit not replacing Giroud as our first-choice CF at some point in the past three years.

    Not to mention that if Wenger is the genius who transformed Henry into Henry, why has he not been able to do so with a Walcott, a Welbeck, an Ox?

    Because he’s no genius. He’s a senile twat, and he must go, ASAP.

  20. Jeff

    Not Wenger’s fault. No sirey Bob. Never. Not in a million years. Not by a long chalk. How can it be? He is God. How dare anyone say it’s his fault. Blasphemy. 😆

  21. Dissenter

    Hope Chelsea don’t break their fever by smashing us next week

    Just think of that before you start celebrating their demise.
    Teams tend to kick,off their seasons after playing us.

  22. MidwestGun

    Tom –
    The injury thing has been discussed to death on here. Of coursr I don’t blame everything on Wenger. Fact is we also lead the League in soft tissue injuries most years. s I said it’s his job to figure out why.
    Getting rid of Diaby was a start.

  23. Jeff

    Last season it was Man U’s turn to have a shit season. Maybe now it’s Chelsea’s turn. But we will always be fourth. That position is ours for as long as we want it and no one is going to steal it away from us.

  24. WrightIsGod

    BTW We already know Chelsea will beat us up next week as standard right?

    Let’s not forget we still haven’t beaten Man U in the league since before SAF left. Embarrasing.

  25. Dissenter

    Cesc is spending all his creative energy in the sack with his mature wife.

    Ozil vs Cesc?
    Much easier decision now.
    Cesc faded in the midpoint of last season and looks lost. It could be where Chelsea are playing him.

  26. Bamford10

    EVERY team can challenge for top four? What the f*** are you on about? Norwich can challenge this year? Bournemouth? Sunderland?


    My question is whether Everton could be a problem for us. Normally people only consider United, Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham as problems (top 4 slot-takers): my q is whether Everton should be added to that list.

  27. WengerEagle

    We’ll finish top 4, Everton look decent but they looked even better under Martinez in his first year and fizzled out come Spring time.

    Same for Southampton last year and the Spuds in the previous years.

    When will people learn that we’re always going to finish top 4?

    Elite purgatory for a reason.

  28. gazzap

    That’s not the line up I would play at all. Ramsey on the right has been an unmitigated disaster. Is wenger blind or stupid?
    Theo should be right and Giroud up top – it’s really not rocket science.

  29. MidwestGun

    Tom –
    Ya… I wasn’t impressed. It basically was blaming luck. Also, didn’t take into
    Account Managers ability to mitigate injury losses thru having a contingency plan. For instance if Coq is injured what’s the plan or Giroud?

  30. Danny

    Per still injured?
    Oxlade plays full match for England but is on the bench.
    Theo didn’t play for England but starts.
    At least no Giroud……

  31. vicky


    Not only Everton but also Crystal Palace, Swansea are in with a chance. In fact I bet one of these three will finish either above Spurs or Liverpool.

  32. Bamford10

    Ivanovic is clearly past it, so Mourinho will have to address that. And Hazard is still in summer mode, as is Fabregas.

    Mourinho teams always go through a malaise 2-3 years in. Perhaps it’s because of his personality: self-absorbed, arrogant, petty, vindictive, focused on winning alone and not love of, or joy for, the game.

    No question they’re in a bad place morale-wise, though.

  33. Dissenter

    If you were Mourhino, who would you want to play to get your mojo back and reflect media attention?

    Arsenal, definitely
    The media stories won’t be about Chelsea’s pathetic form. It would be about Wenger’s winless run against Mourhino in the league.

    Besides, it’s easier to out-think Wenger.
    Hope we don’t get another stuffing next week.

  34. Marko

    What we need is for D’Angelo Barsdale to confront Mourinho RE Fabregas.Where’s Cesc at? Where is the boy Jose?

    Love it.

    My question does anyone think Cesc’s bubble might of burst? Us ge gonna get any better or regain any form? Considering were we right not to resign? Age wise and what not Ramsey and Ozil still have a lot still to offer. Certainly have him over Wilshere though but mostly cause he’s shot

  35. S Asoa

    Walcot pretenses of Striker getting exposed. Market value going down 15k at a time. After all 140K per week out of Wenger’s father ‘S pocket

  36. Jeff

    If it was Giroud, he would not have been in that position. If it is Walcott, he can’t do headers. Hmm. I wonder what the solution might be. How about a striker who can do both? Oh but those f***** smooth pitches have a lot to answer for.

  37. Arsene's Nurse

    Walcott – how shit is he? My god any striker even at pub team level would atleast get that on target.

    But Wenger couldn’t find better in the market, sheesh.

  38. Follow the money

    Tom’s half right in that we suffer more injuries because we usually have more possession. But that’s the end of it. Still doesn’t explain things like Diaby who Wenger knew had a muscle condition as far back as 2011 and still kept him on the books. That was just a joke that made us look ridiculous. Wenger made Diaby a millionaire and the only thing he did of note on the pitch was v Man U he was standing there under no pressure at all and he headed an own goal past our keeper and we lost 2-1. Almunia, Diaby, Wenger kept these useless players around for years. Joke

  39. TheBayingMob

    Fucking hell we should be 3 up! Odds we lose 0-1!? Lol … At least Wally will have no reason to sulk back out on the right wing when he’s proved himself to be an outright cunt of a striker …

  40. useroz

    Cazorla pinging great passes so far.

    Should have been 3 up if we have a proper. CF, and a bit of luck

    Poor shot by Walcott; Alumunia would have saved it

  41. Follow the money

    What’s the opposite of clinical? That’s what we are. We haven’t had a player with an acceptable conversation rate since Nasri and RVP. No one on this team can finish

  42. Leedsgunner

    I’m torn. Wenger needs to be commended for rotating players… shame it’s “Please be patient with me” Walcott.

    Theo trying too hard. We’ll rue these missed chances.

  43. Arsene's Nurse

    September 12, 2015 14:14:55

    Theo obviously didn’t grow up playing on a field of broken glass with a ball made of used needles
    I’ve just dribbled orange squash down myself laughing after reading that.

  44. S Asoa

    Wenger taken off coat
    Next will be off with pants and underwear
    Welcome our “new signing” of 19 years coming on as Striker ,balls flailing menacingly

  45. useroz

    Walcott not only shit in getting the goals but lazy as hell. Loss the ball (well… expected) but didn’t bother to press and get it back. Just fucking stood there?!

    When u see what this little shit does, u c*nt not love Sanchez.

  46. TheBayingMob

    Wenger made Diaby a millionaire and the only thing he did of note on the pitch was v Man U he was standing there under no pressure at all and he headed an own goal past our keeper and we lost 2-1″

    I was there that day. I can see it now everyone in the away was completely stunned …

  47. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Wenger should show an act of malice
    Pull that useless over tried tossed of a player off after 30 mins

    Or wait an he will get his September injury soon…

    Well done Wenger

    Good team selection .

  48. Arsene's Nurse

    Kozzer! Laughable that we are all stood around like bollards whilst there is so much room for Koscielny to wander into.

    Would have been a cracker of a goal though.

  49. Follow the money

    Kos is going to get yelled at for that. Good lad. We look so stupid in the final third, standing there, trying to walk the ball into the net

  50. useroz

    Cech must be so bored so far.

    Bellerin a better winger than Walcott.

    Kos great shot fr 35 yard!!!

    Cazorla quick half volley…

    The Stoke GK has saved everything thrown at him

    Same thing then…many shots no goals

  51. tom

    Walcott’s flying header was a fine effort. Only fractionally high.
    Yet Le Grove and Trevor Francis call it an inexcusable miss.

    Walcott has had 3 or 4 chances inside half an hour.
    He’s working hard.
    He just scored.