Stoke time…

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HAPPY SATURDAY TO YA’LL
JUST IN OFF THE BACK OF THREE STRAIGHT FLIGHTS BUT I’M FINE.
Missing Stoke today. First and only 3 o’clock of the season. Real shame that. The Beer weather is what I’d call optimal.
Big game today. Post breaks are always tricky. Stoke are missing Affellay and Charlie Adams. Which means we have a better chance of smashing them I’d guess?
We need a fast start. None of this easing in nonsense. We need a showing today. This is a good chance to kick the season off properly. We have some hard games this term and Champions League drops back into the mix which will make things decidedly trickier.
Wenger has been bantering with media about the soft upbringing of kids in the modern era. Interesting that most people I speak to in the game tell me Arsenal are beyond over the top compared to others. We pamper the players to the max!
If you want tougher kids, beast them or make them work for their living. Happens everywhere else. Also, stop buying in middle class kids and get a bit of working class slaaaaaag in there. That’d shake it up a bit.
Truth is, if you’re good enough, you make it regardless of what you train on. Reverting back to the good old days is a bit twee. It’s the defence of someone who has run out of ideas. Or someone who is tired. When you control the environment and how players are trained, you should do something about soft players. Funny, if that comment came from Fat Sam we’d all be recoiling at the comment.
Wenger also went on the build press around a lack of options in the striking department, citing Spain and Germany as examples of successful teams succeeding without a specialist striker. He also made the bold claim that people questioned his faith in Nic Anelka and Thierry.
Not sure I remember that ever being they buzz. On striker was so electric Wenger has to drop his senior counterpart. He was literally the most exciting thing in the Premier League from day one. Same with Thierry. The boy was a young World Cup winner. Hardly a massive story that we were playing him. Pace, movement and pure unadulterated talent.
Anyway, Wenger said he’d prefer a spread of scorers. Which is fine. But let’s get them scoring ASAP!
Right, that’s me done. See you tomorrow.
Pete 

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  1. MidwestGun

    Sal –
    What can I say. …. a few Vodka tonics in me…. and time to kill… Red makes me laugh. It’s like a L’Oréal missed by a country mile. .. stank face. Strangely attractive and annoying at the same time. Makes me want to throw things but also makes me laugh.
    🙂

  2. MidwestGun

    Sorry but great players are great for both club and country and Messi is not one of them.
    ________
    Red? Thought you weren’t talking about greatness. You won’t mind if I save this qoute in the Redtroll learning disability files, then.

  3. MidwestGun

    Oh so you have a losing position and so now you want to argue Messi isn’t the greatest of all time? Well that’s a different arguement . I might agree with that and then Club record would be relevant.
    I prefer Maradona.
    However, we all know that’s not your point. Anyhow, shouldn’t you be organizing a protest or something?

  4. David Smith

    Have to say, I am very amused by Chelsea’s plight, Jose has the air of a man in trouble. Wonder what’s really behind this?

  5. tom

    Just read a heap of ratings.
    Surprised to find Stoke’s players rating fairly well. None rated less than 5 in 3 separate non-Arse sites.
    That helps emphasize this was a good show.

  6. tunnygriffboy

    Bellerin, Kos, Coquelin, Wilshere, Ramsey, Walcott, Ox, Gibbs. No young talent brought through. Currently have Akpom, Crowley, Zelalem, Maitland Niles out on loan because they’ve outgrown U21s and there’s now no reserve team. Also have Iwobi and JRA in the squad .

    I have no objection to people having a go if it’s justified but a lot of it is moaning forthe sake of it

    Martial scored a good goal today. It’s one half of football. Naismith scored a hatrick today ffs. Let’s see how things go beforewe go totally knee jerk and over board.

  7. goonerboy

    This was a good show -our pressing and capacity to win the ball back was by far the best this season-against a team with a disorganised defensive set up- but what it served to show was the more chances we make- the more we miss -the stats of 29 goal attempts and 2 goals does not tell the tale of how many of these were easy chances that were appallingly missed..
    A team with a moderately functioning strike force would have scored at least 6- even against a good keeper in great form.
    Instead of focusing on the obvious- why were so many easy chances missed- Wenger is back to talking hogwash about Walcott being prolific-of which there is only evidence of being prolific in his capacity to miss easy chances..
    Walcott, in spite of some speed and good movement outside the box demonstrates each week that he does not have the touch or close control, the shot or ability in the air to be a striker at all.

  8. tunnygriffboy

    Just rewatched the game. On another day Theo buries another two of those chances. He’s good enough to do so. Bit more confidence and they’ll come.

    Media and us as fans in a frenzy now. Any chance missed will be ‘we need a striker’. This seasons narritive. Players from other clubs will be allowed to miss

    Thing is we are creating good chances. I think they’ll start going in soon. Be more worried if we weren’t creating anything.

  9. tunnygriffboy

    Goonerboy

    If Theo continues to keep getting into those positions and we keep finding him the goals will come. Last 11 starts he’s scored 11 goals. Can’t help him or Giroud with everyone including us fans getting on their back.

  10. Emiratesstroller

    Went to game yesterday, but was out last night so had little time to express an
    opinion.

    1. We were in control of game, but until Walcott scored it seemed like our home form bogey was continuing with two early shots hitting the bar.

    2.There is a lot of pressure on both Walcott and Giroud scoring goals particularly since Sanchez is not particularly sharp at the moment and our midfield collectively and Ozil in particularly seem incapable of shooting let alone scoring.

    3. For all the negativity I thought that Coquelin was once again outstanding.
    He is not a glamorous or fancy player, but what he does do well is break down
    the opposition very effectively and that is what Arsenal need in midfield particularly since the rest of midfield are not particularly good in that department.

    4. I am afraid that Ramsey for all his energy and enthusiasm is not good enough for a title challenging team. Most of his work is sloppy and at best he
    is a squad player. We need an upgrade and preferably someone who can score goals in midfield.

    5. Sanchez needs a break, which frankly Arsenal cannot afford to give him. I
    think that he looks very tired.

    6. Both Walcott and Giroud played okay, but neither is of course the clinical
    all-round goalscoring machine we crave for.

    7. The defence looks solid, but did not have a great deal to do. Cech failed to
    catch a couple of shots but his presence particularly at corners and set pieces
    is excellent as was demonstrated in the first half when he punched and also
    took out the striker as well. In contrast to Szczesny and Ospina we did look
    with him as orchestrator solid in that department.

    8. We should not delude ourselves that this Arsenal team is the business to win Titles. We are short of goalscoring options in this team and I am yet to be
    convinced that we have enough depth particularly in midfield as I expressed
    during transfer window. The ongoing absence of Wilshire could be more of
    a problem than the loss of Welbeck at moment.

    9. Next week will show what are our prospects in both Champions League and
    EPL. A fairly difficult trip to Greece followed by an away game to Chelsea. The
    latter looked fairly ordinary before I left for Emirates, but we know that Mourinho like playing against us and of course hates Wenger. My major concern is the thinness of our squad.

    10. Manchester City look invincible at moment, but otherwise I don’t see a lot
    of other teams who are playing consistently well. Somehow I think that the League title could be won before Christmas, because City are not only winning all their games but not conceding goals.Their summer investment demonstrates clearly what our club lacks.

  11. qna

    Tunny. Last nights performance does demonstrate where we are in terms of a striker though. Similar match in Spain and Ronaldo scores 5 goals. Of course I am not expecting us to have a player of that calibre, but the difference is in a match like that, the top teams in Europe would have put away those chances. Personally, I am not so concerned about that, other than the fact that I think it will have an impact on the players who are giving great assists and not getting rewarded for that. I think Bellerin looked livid that his ripper wasnt buried. I think Ozil has got to have his limits as well and the issue will come back to bite us next time his contract is up for renewal and clubs like Bayern are sniffing around.

  12. qna

    As for the actual result. We have to put the game into context. It was against a weaker team in the league and in the last few seasons we have always taken 3 points. We take on average 2.5 points from 3 out of these games. So everyone needs to keep perspective. Where we fail, time and time again are against the big clubs in our league and in Europe. We will have a great idea of where we are in the next few weeks. We have Chelsea and United, both are for the taking, and it wont get any easier than right now as both are not looking at their best. It is for these big games that we were calling for a big striker and another central midfielder. Not for the home games against Stoke. I had no concerns about playing last nights game, with last years stock of strikers. Also, I am more than happy that we didnt win 7-0, as these massive flat track bully wins skew our statistics and gives a false representation of our goal scoring abilities over the course of a full campaign.

  13. qna

    Emirates. I agree that Ramsey is not effective in the team. But he is not a winger. I fear we may ruin him by playing him out of position for too long. Arsenal has an incredible record against the weaker teams in the league, where we take on average 2.5 points out of 3. This is actually a good thing, and while we move toward improving against the stronger teams, we should not lose this. For me, Ramsey is one of our best weapons against these weaker EPL sides, he can contribute from the wing, but he is better as a box to box. Point is, in my view Ramsey is a fundamental part of the squad. One of the biggest problems with Wenger now is that he only has one plan. At any given point in time, he has his best 11 (of those that are fit) and no matter the opponent, he chooses those players. In this setup, I agree with you, Ramsey weakens us. Because, he is not a winger, nor does get a spot in MF ahead of Coq, Cazorla or Ozil. But there are at least 20 games in an EPL campaign, as well as early rounds of three cup competitions that he could easily take the position of Cazorla, or Coquelin and play as a B2B. The problem is not Ramsey, it is the flexibility and willingness to take risk for reward of the manager.

  14. Wallace

    qna

    “As for the actual result. We have to put the game into context. It was against a weaker team in the league…So everyone needs to keep perspective.”

    i’ve just trawled through most of the comments and all i saw – tom aside – was the usual whining. if you can point out a post in which someone’s getting carried away with yesterday’s performance i’d love to see it.

  15. Leedsgunner

    Tunny

    Media and us as fans in a frenzy now. Any chance missed will be ‘we need a striker’. This seasons narritive. Players from other clubs will be allowed to miss…

    You may had a point if Theo was a young upstart (akin to Martial) or new to the club. As it stands though he’s the longest serving member of the Arsenal squad, just been given a new lucrative contract as a senior pro AND been given the role he himself has been asking for a long time.

    Theo can’t have it both ways… ask to be a striker for years and then when the chance comes ask for people to be patient for the goals to come.

    Having said that I’m keeping the picture in view.

    We got three points. Job done.

  16. Rosicky@Arsenal

    Pedro & N5

    Sorry to post again.

    Mourinihios loss to MAartinez was too tempting to make a post.

    Long live Maureen.

    Long live the king.

    Hahahahah.

  17. Wallace

    loved Theo’s goal – from Coquelin’s crunching challenge, to Ozil’s beautifully flighted pass to Theo’s excellent first touch and finish. quality stuff.

  18. qna

    Wallace. I didnt say anyone was getting carried away. I said the result should be kept in perspective – that it was a home match against a weaker side in the competition, where we normally take all three points. I am more than happy that we are back on track to keep up our record against the weak sides. But this is not where we fall short, year after year, and it is not where we are shown up in lacking a quality striker or a stronger central midfield. Wait until this seasons games against City and Bayern. This is where it will be clear what we lack and it should come as no surprise when we are comfortably exposed.

  19. Wallace

    qna

    “This is where it will be clear what we lack and it should come as no surprise when we are comfortably exposed.”

    your confidence in the team is inspiring.

    we always give City a good game. and sure we will next time we meet.

  20. qna

    Wallace. By the way. I think there is a strong possibility that Wenger and all his Wengerites like yourself will be able to claim that Arsenal improved this season, without us actually improving. It looks like Chelsea has fallen right out, while Liverpool, United and Spurs look far from convincing. There is every possibility that Arsenal will finish 2nd this season, without actually being a better team than we were last season. We should also improve our points tally against these teams compared to last season, so in every measurable way, Wenger might be able to say he improved our team.

    I also will have to admit to being wrong at saying numerous times that standing still is actually moving backwards in this league. Because, if we do improve, then we will have moved forward by standing still. Go figure.

  21. qna

    Wallace: your confidence in the team is inspiring. we always give City a good game. and sure we will next time we meet.

    Wrong. We do not always give City a good game. Last season was an aberration. We give good teams a good game only if they are in the middle of a bad run of form. We managed this with City last season. It wont happen this season. Dont worry, this season Chelsea are completely off form, so we should be able to take 4 or 6 points off of them and you can stick to your claims without seeing the big picture.

    It has nothing to do with having inspiring confidence in the team, its about watching football using your god given brain. Not rocket science.

  22. Rosicky@Arsenal

    Qna

    Can you figure out why Epl is falling back inspite of spending millions..?

    Chelsea United spur liverpool have regressed inspite of spending millions of $$$????

    Arsenal are standing still without spending zillions.

    Hasnt it been proved over the course of last 2/3 seasons that just apending is no answer to a good team and victory.???

  23. Wallace

    qna

    “Wrong. We do not always give City a good game. Last season was an aberration. We give good teams a good game only if they are in the middle of a bad run of form. We managed this with City last season. It wont happen this season. Dont worry, this season Chelsea are completely off form, so we should be able to take 4 or 6 points off of them and you can stick to your claims without seeing the big picture.”

    so when we lose we’re shit, and when we win we’re still shit, it’s just the opposition were even shitter?

    also, a month into the season and you already have us taking 4-6pts off of Chelsea…bet you’d have been surprised to see yourself writing that 5 weeks ago.

  24. Wallace

    qna

    “I also will have to admit to being wrong at saying numerous times that standing still is actually moving backwards in this league. Because, if we do improve, then we will have moved forward by standing still. Go figure.”

    teams are constantly in flux. the idea that you add a few players and automatically improve is childlike thinking.

  25. N5

    Rosicky, I’m not sure why you are apologising? If you want to post on the Grove no one cares, it was just pointed out that it’s hypocritical to slag the site off on Untold and then to post here.

    If you can’t stay away, which obviously you can’t then just stop siding up with Attwood and his girlfriend Walter and joining him in slagging off Pedro.

  26. qna

    Rosicky. Good question. I am not sure exactly what is happening. I wouldnt say that spending money doesnt work. I think if you look at some teams like West Ham and Swansea, they have spent some good money dont you? Also, if you look at the past decade, it has almost been a case of he who spends most wins. But it does then seem very hard to keep those same players motivated for the season after they win the league.

    I honestly cant explain Chelsea this season. I am surprised by their drop off. I liked their signings over the last 2 seasons and I like their current squad. I would have thought they would be QF/SF in the UCL this season.

    I dont think United have spent well for several years. I dont think liverpool have spent well, but they are a bit like us (but even worse) whereby the best players dont want to join them.

    As for Arsenal and why we are still standing, we all have opinions. I personally think that we have become an expert in the PL, possibly moreso than any other team. We can pretty much take all three points against the bottom 12 to 14 or so teams in the league. We are slightly more than a flat track bully. We are hyper effective against teams in this league. However, that doesnt seem to translate to the remaining teams. So we basically take 60 to 70 points by default. Yet, we cannot take enough points from the remaining teams to win the league. Our team is not strong enough, or set up to beat these well organised and highly skilled teams. The City’s, Chelsea’s, United’s have not been as consistent as us against the weaker teams, year after year. But in the years when they do put it together, they are as equally effective as us and then some against the top teams. This is a theory anyway.

  27. qna

    Wallace: so when we lose we’re shit, and when we win we’re still shit, it’s just the opposition were even shitter?

    In some cases, yes.

    Wallace: also, a month into the season and you already have us taking 4-6pts off of Chelsea…bet you’d have been surprised to see yourself writing that 5 weeks ago.

    Again. Nothing to do with what Arsenal has done. Chelsea have lost 3 out of its first 5 games and only have a single win. Did Arsenal have anything to do with this. Do you not think this start taints the value of our Community Shield trophy? Or Arsene Wengers one and only victory over Moureen.

    Wallace: teams are constantly in flux. the idea that you add a few players and automatically improve is childlike thinking.

    Your thinking is in general very naive wallace, so its interesting that you mention this. Nobody said it automatically will improve things. However, it is standard industry practice to freshen up a squad every season. This is part of managing the constant flux. That is a skill in itself and a skill that is lacking at Arsenal. It is not easy. Buying no body for your entire outfield is one way to go about managing the constant flux.

  28. Rosicky@Arsenal

    N5

    Believe me i am staying away frm the site now as you couldnt find my comment since 2 weeks .
    Usually i am not reading the post altogether but just came today to slag off Maureen who is loved here.

    Also why shouldnt i slag off Pedro who writes against the club most of the times .
    He predicted we will not win anything under Wenger and he has been proved wrong after we won 2 FA cups.Pedro said we have regressed and players have refused to play under Wenger but you can see we are still a top club and fighting.
    Pedro altered my posts when i commented against an article on same sex marraiges.
    I usually post to defend Arsenal as i considered it to be an Arsenal blog but it has turned out to be an Anti Arsenal blog so have been avoiding it now.

    Will not come here again altogrther from now onwards.

    Xxxx

  29. N5

    Rosicky, I didn’t say you shouldn’t, just that its hypocritical.

    Maureen does have people who respect him here, but fans? Isn’t that a bit childish.

    Good luck with wherever you go from here and I’m not being sarcy! Just be where you are happy man, lifes to short for the frustration.

  30. Wallace

    qna

    “Again. Nothing to do with what Arsenal has done. Chelsea have lost 3 out of its first 5 games and only have a single win. Did Arsenal have anything to do with this. Do you not think this start taints the value of our Community Shield trophy? Or Arsene Wengers one and only victory over Moureen.”

    le grove spent the summer holding Chelsea up as the standard for Arsenal. 5 weeks in and now it’s City who are doing everything right. don’t Chelsea’s troubles suggest how hard this league can be if you’re not totally on your game?

  31. Rosicky@Arsenal

    N5

    Tks for best wishes.
    I am a happy man np.

    The point is why people here dont support the manager and the players and keep on slagging them even after 2 back to back trophies.

    There are always plusses and minusess in a human being and Wenger has shown he can still keep us at the top level but people here keep on moaning.

    Lets take an example of the spending spree at United liverpool and spurs and see where they are since the last 3 seasons always behind us.

    Spending is not the answer.

    Spending wisely is the prudent way which Wenger tries but the posts here have gone from bad to worse.

    If a striker is not available why people here dont understand.

    Wenger will spend as soon as an opportunity comea ala Peter chek.

  32. Emiratesstroller

    qna

    Most of the people sitting alongside me at Emirates yesterday came to a similar conclusion to myself that Ramsey is not an effective midfielder for all his enthusiastic play. He is frankly very wasteful.

    I agree that he is not a winger, which is one reason why I feel that Arsenal have
    struggled recently in home games. There is a lack of width and over dependence of full backs to fulfil that role.

    The reality for me is that Ramsey is probably good enough like most of our other British born players to be on the bench but not a regular starter in team.

    The lack of goalscoring in our midfield is precisely why I advocated during the
    summer that Arsenal should have bought a goalscoring midfielder/winger if
    there were no strikers of calibre required available.

    After all we are not short of money, but we are short at moment of midfielders
    in view of injuries to both Wilshire and Rosicky.

  33. Emiratesstroller

    Wallace

    In response to some of your comments I have to confess that I have a lack of
    enthusiasm about our current manager/squad and team.

    This is not because we have a poor side or indeed will have a bad season, but because it could have been much better if Wenger had made some better decisions during the summer.

    We are not short of a strong and complete squad. However, bringing in a couple of well selected outfield players would have made us better.

    The real issue for me is Wenger’s statement at the beginning of summer that
    he would only buy players who are an upgrade on what he has got.

    Does he seriously believe that he cannot find upgrades for Arteta, Rosicky or
    Flamini? Moreover why did it take so long to make a decision to operate over
    Welbeck’s injury. It is now suggested also that Wilshire may have to undertake further surgery as well.

    What this tells you is that we are going to be short of numbers in squad up to
    January.

    For me that is unacceptable for a club of Arsenal’s substance and whatever the
    Manager offers as an excuse should have been avoided.

    When I discussed it yesterday I pointed out then that the club’s sponsors will
    be less than enthusiastic to see a club taking their money but failing to invest it in the squad. Increasing the club’s bank balance is not what they want to see.

    My view is that Arsenal’s bank balance will become increasingly a millstone,
    because every other club in world football will want to extract out of us the
    maximum price for any player that we are remotely interested in.

    Personally I want to see the club invest in the squad rather than grow a huge
    bank balance. That does not mean making wholesale changes.

  34. David Smith

    What it tells me is that Wengers methods and his incompetent backroom staff are still wrecking the careers of our players. Why….because ultimately Wenger won’t change a thing, he just can’t. Shad Forsyth and the likes are just a mirage, Tony Colbert and Lewin the lesser are still in there messing up careers.

  35. freddylekgunner

    Goodmorning and happy Sunday to all. Unlike many on here, it’s too early in the season to say Mancity will win d league. They are playing well at the moment, but the jury is still. Lets see by Christmas.

  36. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Stroller

    Nice piece

    But as frustrated as we get regarding the club an board,

    You alluded to it in your post money is the only objective for them now.
    Like an artist who releases albums not caring if it gets to number one but more about how many units it pushes…
    Not caring about ivor Novello awards etc….

    All about the sales …

    We are the take that of the football world.

  37. qna

    RSPCA: Good time to jump on Chelsea at 10-1 for league

    I think history shows that it is very difficult to retain the league. It must be close to impossible to retain it after having the worst start to a campaign by the defending champs since the 70s. Save your money and put it on Bayern to win the UCL (thank me later).

  38. Cesc Appeal

    Missed the game yesterday so only got the highlights, but my we are extremely wasteful, I mean Sanchez hit the post twice, once from a great save off his header and the other from a curling sot from the edge of the box, not really complaining about those, but Walcott and Giroud…cannot have that kind of finishing at all.

    Keep seeing, ‘we will get more clinical,’ ‘on another Walcott buries though,’ but I’ve been seeing that for a few weeks now, can this ‘other day’ sort of arrive sharpish. They aren’t good enough, but we create enough and they of course will get sharper to the point we end the season comfortably.

    Nice to see Coq just put in a really simple, solid game, really enjoy him, walked into the team last year on a fluke and made the position his.

    Kozz shot from distance as well, very Vermaelen like I thought, nice to see.

    Again, left watching thinking, if we had even just a good ST, a more clinical ST not even WC we’d be some team. Summer was a huge f**k up there, missed opportunity totally.

  39. Wallace

    ES

    re Welbeck – Wenger sees surgery as a last resort. he’d rather they heal naturally as it will allow the player a longer career. it sounds like Welbeck was improving but suffered a setback as his training regimen was ramped up as he neared a return. whether we should have bought someone as a result is another question, but i think Welbeck was just unfortunate, i don’t think it was mismanagement.

  40. kwik fit

    Great day yesterday at the Emirates. Met the legend Par Rice. Lovely lovely man a true gent. Was having non of my anti Wenger spiel 😉

  41. Goondawg

    We had thirty shots yesterday. Only scored two. Sanchez and Walcott far more guilty than Giroud. Giroud only missed one opportunity. Scored the other. 1 in 2 isn’t too bad

  42. Goondawg

    Yay Sanogo come on when Ajax were 2-1 down and won the penalty for them.
    De boer had this to say after the game:
    “He brings something different to our play when he gets on the pitch. He’s tall, he’s got a good header and can funtion as a target man. Van Der Hoorn can also do this, but I’d rather play a real striker up front. We didn’t have a striker of this type before, but now we do.
    He’s got to start playing better, but he’s shown he’s determined and I’ve noticed he’s started to settle at the club. It’s only a matter of time before he makes the step and starts proving his worth to us.”

  43. N5

    ” It’s only a matter of time before he makes the step and starts proving his worth to us.”

    He could wash the kits, that’s a valuable job.

  44. Marko

    Spending is not the answer.Spending wisely is the prudent way which Wenger tries but the posts here have gone from bad to worse.If a striker is not available why people here dont understand.

    With all due respect Rosicky that excuse of not being available this summer is complete nonsense and an excuse. Coquelin is fine no issue there but after him we’re in trouble so why not spend the 15-25 million to strengthen that area? Krychowiak 22 million clause, Schneiderlin and Imbula moving for money we can easily afford. And with regards to the striker issue well this summer Jackson Martinez, Paulo Dybala and Vietto all moved and would of added much needed pace and quality up front

  45. MidwestGun

    Hasnt it been proved over the course of last 2/3 seasons that just apending is no answer to a good team and victory.???
    _____
    So the acquisition of Alexis and Sanchez didn’t improve our team, right? I’m
    sure @Rosicky was on here angry at their signings because they messed up our cohesion. Untold deserves your logic. They are an anti -signing blog, when Wenger decides not to sign anyone. … strange that.

  46. Marko

    The new thing now seems to be for the apologists to use Chelsea’s bad start to the season as some sort of vindication for Wenger not spending any money this summer. I mean it’s ridiculous what’s going on in the minds of some of these fans. Like we as fans are asking too much for money to be spent to give us as good a chance to properly challenge for major honours. And it’s not even like we’re asking to spend vast sums or even moneywe don’t have. 20 million here for a midfielder 30 million there for a striker that’s all

  47. Sam

    Our front 3 currently should be Sanchez- Walcott- Chamberlain

    Wenger shouldn’t make mistake n start Ramsey against Chelsea. We need Chambo to battle ivanovic

  48. Relieable sauce

    Everton to finish above Liverpool this year highly likely, MC above MU & ditto us n spurs.
    Swansea look as good as last season if not better, & chelsea…LOL!

    2nd looks doable with a head to head of the EPL luckiest 2 managers – LVG & wenger.

    Could see it ending like this. City clear by double figures & a very tight race for 4th.

    MC
    AFC
    MU
    Everton
    Chelsea
    Swansea

    If we beat chelsea next week we would put ourselves in a strong position & end their title hopes. City would be 18pts clear of them with a win & theres no way they can make up the difference with their current squad imo.

  49. Bamford10

    While Liverpool have not looked particularly good so far, they will be a better team when Coutinho and Sturridge return, provided the latter returns to something like 100%.

    Between Lallana, Henderson, Milner, Ibe, they should be able to put together a decent midfield.

    It’s a long season — I wouldn’t count them out just yet.

  50. Frankie T

    The Chelsea game is going to be very interesting. Will we go for the jugular with Walcott, alexis, ox all running at there defence it will he try and play it safe with giroud and ramsey.

    I wanna see Walcott playing on the shoulder of john terry and ozil constantly playing balls through the channel.

    If they sit deep then sanchez needs to be under instructions to shoot on site. No tippy tappy bullshit.

    I think Gabriel can handle costa but i worry about pedrio and hazard

  51. Bamford10

    Chelsea tend to sit deep, and Walcott did absolutely nothing against them in the Community Shield, but I don’t see Giroud accomplishing all that much more.

    I think we’re better off playing Walcott, knowing he’ll do very little, but counting on one or two occasions where his pace may make the difference in behind Chelsea’s CBs.

    Zagreb first, though.

  52. Dissenter

    We’ve had very pleasant fixture list this season.
    All five games were winnable games.
    We really should be on fifteen points with a high goal difference.

    Theo needs to stay behind after training to work on his composure and finishing. His movements are great but even a championship level CF would have scored at least one goal yesterday. His one goal is no vindication.
    …bad Giroud, oh dear. He’s gets so many sitters to pad his goal tally.

  53. Dissenter

    Walcott’s pace won’t matter much against Chelsea because they’ll play Zouma who’s also fast.
    We will have to account for Pedro so I think Wenger will play two defensive midfielders, and start with Oxlade and Giroud.

  54. Relieable sauce

    “Back to 100%” like before his one and a half seasons out injured, when Suarez-Gerrard-Stirling were in the team?

    lallana – lovely player to watch but inconsistant & injury prone
    coutinho – similar to above, injuries to a lesser extent maybe.
    Hendersen – Injuries are happening quite regular. Good player. One of the few leaders.
    Milner – Decent journeyman utility player.
    Ibe – A decent looking prospect who will be inconsistant.

    Add to that a manager already under serious pressure & I dont know why you rate them above Swansea & Everton. Their defence is awful & has been for some time.
    Swansea took 4 pts of us last season & have beaten Chelsea at SB this one.
    You think Liverpool will definitely finish higher than Everton?

  55. Bamford10

    Metro has article on Cazorla being our most valuable player. Data points include:
    – he has completed more passes (414) than any other player in the EPL
    – his pass accuracy is a remarkable 92%
    – six chances created and one assist yesterday

    The little guy really does pack a punch.

  56. Bamford10

    Reliable

    Who said anything about “definitely”? I simply said that I wouldn’t count them out so quickly. If Sturridge returns to the Sturridge of 2013, he and Benteke could become a very dangerous attacking tandem.

    Coutinho is a fantastic player and makes them much better than they were yesterday.

    I don’t think they’re a great squad, nor do I think Rodgers is in a good spot, but I wouldn’t discount what they could accomplish if Sturridge returns to 100%.

    That is all.

    Everton look quite solid, yes, but I don’t rate Lukaku, and I think he holds them back. But that’s a separate issue.

  57. Goondawg

    “Chelsea tend to sit deep, and Walcott did absolutely nothing against them in the Community Shield, but I don’t see Giroud accomplishing all that much more.”

    Yep Walcott did absolutely nothing apart from the assist for the winning goal, but dont let that deter you

  58. Bamford10

    Goondawg

    We’ve been over this, but perhaps your pea-brain has forgotten: his assist was a reception and pass that any player on the planet could’ve made.

    Literally any player in the EPL (starter or substitute) could’ve made that play. I challenge anyone to watch it again and say otherwise.

    Other than that he did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Your analysis is simplistic as always.

  59. Bamford10

    I believe we played Giroud as the CF against Chelsea last season and managed one shot on goal in both games.

    As limited as Walcott is as a CF, I think he’s probably still a better option.

  60. Bamford10

    And as limited as Walcott is as a CF, he has scored 11 goals in his last 11 EPL starts. May not be pretty, but he can be effective in his own way.

  61. Bamford10

    Ash

    Weren’t you the guy who told us Giroud is more “technical” than Benzema? And now you want us out of the CL asap? Why? So we can focus on finishing top four?

  62. Goondawg

    Cue the insults. Typical bamford throwing his toys out the pram.

    Watch the community shield game against Chelsea, and how instantly dangerous our team looked when Giroud came on. Had three presentable chances if I remember correctly.

    Walcott’s clever movement was the reason why the chelsea defenders got taken out of position, and was the main contributor to that goal, but your heavily blinkered specs wont register this, no doubt. “His reception, his pass was a pass literally any player could have made” okay then (!)

  63. Goondawg

    Not really an analysis, when the fact is Walcott had a massive part to play in that winning goal to win the shield. So no, he didnt do absolutely nothing in the game. Simple really

  64. Gunner2301

    “If spending is not the answer then why have Arsenal not won the league in over 10 years.”

    Can’t see how he can come back on that one.

    Didn’t see the game but I’m glad for the win.

  65. Bamford10

    Are you saying that that play was NOT one that every player in the EPL could make? If so, please explain how only a Walcott could complete that easy five-yard pass. Can’t wait for this.

    Also, aside from this nebulous claim of “runs made and spaces opened,” can you point to anything specific Walcott did prior to that? No, you can’t, because he did nothing.

    Whatever runs he made, none of them created space for him to do anything in, because ultimately he only knows how to look for space in behind — and lacks the skill-set to do anything in front of a back four.

    All the same, he’s still probably a better option than Giroud — though it is a case of six of one, half a dozen of another.

  66. Bamford10

    Oh, so a player can do absolutely nothing in a game, then make a five-yard pass that any player on the planet could make, and all of a sudden he had a good or great game?

    No. Sorry. That’s not how it works. As I say, yours is a superficial analysis.

  67. goonerboy

    As a rule, I don’t believe in wishful thinking-what I see with Walcott is that after he scores his touch and control does not appear to improve- he is just as likely to shin a rebound in front of an open goal wide as before- which he does consistently- because he lacks the sharp reflexes to adjust his feet and readjust his body position of a top striker.. Nevertheless he has a decent record against Chelsea- playing for a team that rarely beats them and if- a big if… we can get a grip in midfield we may get something out of the game. We beat them by defending well. If Wenger does his usual and abandons this approach – they will use this game to play themselves back into form.