West Ham 2 – 0 Arsenal. Arrogant Arsenal ruin Christmas

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Yesterday was like Christmas when you know Santa has got you an n64. You wake up early jump out of bed and fall straight into a tank of jellyfish. Never mind you say ‘at least it’s Christmas and I’ve got that n64!’. You run downstairs to find Santa microwaving your dog and the Christmas tree on fire. To top it all off he’s brought you a dreamcast instead.

There’s one word to describe that performance, ‘arrogant’. Arsenal were injury-free, brimming with confidence off the back of a victory against the Champions and buoyed by the signing of a world class goalkeeper. We turned up thinking we deserved a victory, not remembering that victories are earned.

We always beat West Ham at home – I said it myself – Giroud always scores against them, this is Chamberlain’s year, good luck conceding against Cech etc etc. Most of us were probably thinking things like this pre-match, even if we weren’t saying it. The problem is, most of the players were thinking along the same lines as well.

Now before I get assaulted by the ‘perspective brigade’, who are able to watch football without it arousing any emotion in them at all, I will say; it was just one game, one bad performance and I still expect us to compete for the league.

However the problem with yesterday was the lack of preparation both physically and mentally. West Ham were awesome yesterday but outside of the first 10 minutes we looked a yard of the pace.

In terms of mental preparation, we played liked we thought we deserved to win. Like we did against Monaco last year, and against Villa on the opening day two years ago and repeat ad infinitum.

The manager acknowledged after the game we played with a bit of fear without the apparent ability to critically analyse why this still keeps happening.

Alan Shearer, for his many many faults, said on Match of the Day that whichever of the top four teams Mourinho managed would win the league. I hate to say it but he’s right. He instills the right kind of confidence in his teams; not so much ‘we deserve to win’, more of the ‘we cannot lose’.

Now I’m not for one second saying I want Mourinho anywhere near this club. However losing the complacent streak appears to be one more signpost on the manager’s road to recovery.

The atmosphere was incredible at the Emirates yesterday. It was baking hot, West Ham were playing a foetus in midfield and they got two yellow cards in the first 10 minutes. Confidence reigned supreme. We looked electric in the first 10 minutes, buzzing around the West Ham defence like a swarm of migrants (as our Prime Minister might say). Ozil was pulling the strings, Chamberlain and Ramsey were fired up.

However, ever so subtly, mistakes started to creep in. The misplaced passes were getting more frequent, balls were bouncing off Giroud like he was a cathode ray oscilloscope (I failed Physics) and the good will of the crowd started to ebb. Then West Ham got a free kick in our half, floated in a perfect free kick for their fella to head into the net.

Cech was in no man’s land but was it all his fault? The defence had pushed up so high that the “corridor of uncertainty” which commentators like to talk about was as large as the Suez Canal. We should have been much deeper. If we had the ball would have been easily cleared.

Nonetheless it was still only 1-0 and you felt we could recover in the second half. Unfortunately the players came out with pretty much the same attitude they had displayed in the first half. Lots of dicking around on the edge of the box, then float the ball in for a defender to easily clear.

Cech was certainly at fault for West Ham’s second. No doubt he was caught flat-footed and should have done better to reach the ball. However there are questions again around the pressure coming from midfield. Zarate was allowed enough time to turn, take a selfie and shoot. Cech probably wasn’t used to that at Chelsea to be fair to him.

We still had a good 30 minutes to make a mends. Arsene made some strange substitutions, for some reason playing Chamberlain at right back where he repeatedly gave the ball away, and leaving Ramsey and Giroud on, both of whom had stinkers. I understand the rationale behind bringing Sanchez on – he’s one of our best players – but he clearly was nowhere near fit and his performance showed that.

We had a few chances before the end of the game but West Ham were organised and defended heroically when they needed to. They deservedly left with all three points.

As I said, it’s important to have perspective. This was just one game. Apparently there were some fisticuffs between fans outside the stadium afterwards. All I’d say to that is – get over yourself, football isn’t that important. However this result was bad. Yes it was a terrible performance, but it was also a sign that whatever was going on in pre-season, the players weren’t ready mentally or physically for the first game.

Also it’s games like this that make the difference between first and third. Have you ever looked back through all the fixtures at the end of the season and said to yourself, ‘if only we’d one that game, and that game we would have been champions’? Yes it’s a bit of childish wish thinking but, in order to be champions, Arsenal can only lose one, possibly two games against teams outside the top four at home. That’s how small the margins are.

Lets end with some player ratings….

Cech – David Ospina didn’t die for this

Debuchy – was fairly solid, still looked rusty

Monreal – More like nonreal (ly)

Koscielny – our best player. I haven’t seen the replays but think he may have been at fault for the first goal

Mertesacker – fairly solid, helped a lot by Kos. Cant really be blamed for the second

Coquelin – looked tired, not one of his better games

Ramsey – played like Steven Gerrard circa 2015 rather than Steven Gerrard circa 2005

Cazorla – Slowed. Down. Everything

Ozil – Great for the first 10 minutes then went for a beer

Chamberlain – I love the kid but he’s not a right back

Giroud – Couldn’t even do the things he usually does well, well

Subs

Walcott – improved our performance 3.2%

Sanchez – Needs a few more days on the beach

Honourable mentions go to Payet who looks like a quality player and Jeinny for combining transfer rumours with being really fit. Thanks for that.

You can follow me on twitter @aldo_doel  if you like. Enjoy your Mondays! x

652 Responses to “West Ham 2 – 0 Arsenal. Arrogant Arsenal ruin Christmas”

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  1. YoungMurphy

    Nothing like a first game loss of the season to make you get off that high horse of winning the league!

    That said, West Ham came in, did a job and left. They didn’t out play us, we were just so poor.

    If Scezzers had made the mistake Cech did, we would have vilified him. Mistakes happen so I am not going to get too up in arms over it (egregious as it was though). For the 2nd goal, Cech was already leaning on his left foot so was caught out by the strike.

    I will say though, while the first goal was poor, I am more annoyed by the 2nd. Ox who was by far our best player OVERUNNING THE BALL IN OUR OWN BOX and then when Zarate won it, no one closed him down.
    Was annoyed to see Tompkins (a CB at LB) not get worked over. Was EVEN MORE ANNOYED at Reece Oxford basically having the game of his life in his DEBUT AT 16. I mean FFS, clearly he is more developed than other 16 year olds, but if I’m Ozil, I’d be in the mindsight of giving him that work and putting pressure on him.

    Our build up play was way too slow and after we conceded the 2nd, it became similar to the last home games last season vs Swansea and Sunderland where they just sat in their 2 banks of 4 and we couldn’t penetrate.

    In short, I don’t want to over react as there are literally 37 games left to go. Some will pay this game was a reason we need Benzema and maybe we do, maybe we don’t. I see this more as the unpredictability of sports and yesterday we were suckered.

  2. warchester

    no champions league games as distraction, clean slate, no pressure and still eff it up….think there’s still a chance we’ll go on a run with all the pressure of “must win” games down the road…not a chance short of signing luis suarez

  3. Reality cech

    1. Payet > Arturo Vidal

    2. Bellerin, Gibbs, Walcott should start. Always. Forever.

    3. Benzema in or #wengerout

  4. peanuts&monkeys

    Pedro “Now I’m not for one second saying I want Mourinho anywhere near this club. ”

    Why NOT??? Only because he takes it out on that old, senile, arrogant, deluded, stubborn, motherf%$#@^* SoB???

  5. peanuts&monkeys

    Deep down i’m glad that the bubble has burst early. Arsenal are an avreage team with a tactless and outdated manager. This team under WengerMOTHE%$#%^&( SoB can never, never, never ever win this league.

    Im glad that the SoB has been brought down to the ground from the hot air bubble he and his AKB brigade had built around since June/July this year.

  6. HammerSinghs

    Interesting commenting from Young Murphy:

    “That said, West Ham came in, did a job and left. They didn’t out play us, we were just so poor.”

    For those of you who remember , West Ham used to “outplay” other teams and still used to lose to the likes of Bolton, and the then “boring boring” Arsenal. We regularly were in the top half. It never won us the then Division 1 or EPL.

    Outplaying means nothing in the EPL. What matters in the result. Hence why Chelsea win.

    Arsenal can look as pretty as they want, but al that will happen is that they will be like the West Ham of old.

  7. Dusty Kart

    Arsenal -200 million in the bank

    AFC Bournemouth-??

    And still Afc Bournemouth outspends the mighty Arsenal or Arsene what a joke we are and still the fool won’t buy what is needed sorry to say it he has got to go!!

  8. malaysian gunner

    Agree with YM.Build up was too slow giving defences time to regroup.
    Arsenal are too predictable with their passing . Too many passes,whe n a shot will suffice.
    CP will be fired up and dont be surprised if they beat he gunners.

  9. Rocky Pires

    Off with his head .

    Disappointing result and performance but a we were discussing previously through out the summer, Westhams performance is the blueprint for teams playing us.
    They will all sit off us and allow us to have the ball we need something more than whipped crosses into a static striker .

    We need to be on the move we need more invention without flooding the outside of the box with players doing tippy tappy .
    Anyways it hopefully acts as a shock to the system and highlights the requirements for more up top and a CDM/CM cover who will allow us to play an attacking game but mind the house and keep the ball moving much like a younger Arteta did .

  10. tunnygriffboy

    The 16 year old had an excellent game yesterday but to give Coquelin stick because the youngster has better stats than Coquelin is a bit skewed. Coquelin had little to do whilst Oxford was really busy.

    Once agai we have 4 shots on target against us and concede two from balls ups. The other two were straight at Cech. We had 22 shots more than any other team. It’s becoming a pattern

    I’ll say one thing. With that team West Ham will have a good season. They have strengthened well. Ditto Swansea, Southampton Palace and even Newcastle, Villa, Stoke have brought in good players. The big teams will have to show up for every game. There will be a few bloody noses this season.

    TBH I was worried about the Palace game before yesterday. I’m doubly worried now. They got a win away from home and they’ll smell blood plus it’s a horrible ground with intimidating fans. Not the game to get a comfortable win. We’ll have to play well to win

    We are capable of beating Palace and Liverpool. Win and we’re on track. On yesterday’s performance we are capable of losing. If we do the title race could be over by September.

  11. David Smith

    It amuses me that some really believe Wenger has changed. He only changes mid season to save his job, then reverts to type in August. Ozil on the left, Santi miles away from Coq….that works doesn’t it oh master Jedi.
    Want an explanation for the fitness levels and a unique performance from Cech……just look around, Tony Colbert is still there, and Gerry Payton is now on his own as senior keeper coach. Jeez, I knew Peyton was a wrecker of keepers, but I didn’t think he would get to Cech this quickly. If Wenger does not bring in lollechon, which he probably won’t, Cech will deteriorate exponentially. Respect to ospina, the only one who Peyton never really got to …..yet…..

  12. Mo

    Good post. Obviously a shit show, but let’s not lose our minds maaannn. Lose to Palace however, and shit gets real.

  13. David Smith

    Agree Pedro, wouldn’t want Jose near this club, a classless cheat who provides short term success than wrecks things,, and gouges rivals eyes, Chelsea all over, we never have to resort to such things,but wouldn’t mind a manager who uses just a few of his methods. Wenger does when he has to, usually when it’s too late, but never at the start of the season.

  14. Danny

    We had 22 shots more than any other team.
    ———————————
    How many of those 22 were on target? I don’t remember their goalkeeper having to make one save.

  15. Carts

    LOL at the poster who said West Ham were monster yesterday. Was it Tunny or Emirates – may have been neither.

    West Ham were far from monsters yesterday. They don’t have monstrous player; nor did they play in monstrous fashion. I hope the growing theme isn’t ‘ team were fucking monsters yesterday, total beasts’ when we lose.

    Their average height may have been a few inches more than us, but at the same time we were hardly dominated aerially. They didn’t sit deeper and confine us to endless passes on the edge of the box, contrary to what people used to peddle as to why we wouldn’t win the games we dominated.

    Payet was West Ham’s best player by a long margin. Oxford didn’t uproot trees, but what he did do well was stay disciplined when ever the pressure was on. Reid and Ogbonna looked a tad shaky at times but for the most parts dealt with the sporadic threats.

    Like I said last week: West Ham couldn’t care less about the Europa League football. Bilic knows it, Sullivan, Gold and Brady too. They’d rather rest on a Thursday night and play as they did yesterday, instead of travelling to Lithuania etc playing in a competition they’ll never win and bring in next to no money.

    Arsenal on the other hand looked majorly disjointed. From the starting line up I knew we’d run the risk of being exposed. I said last week that I have very little for Ramsey (and Theo) – so you could imagine my face when I saw Ramsey next to Coquelin and Cazorla wide left. Fucking obvious what would was going to ensue.

    I actually would’ve started Theo on the right, Ox on the left, Ozil in the centre. Cazorla next to Coquelin. Or is it a thing whereby thanks to Theo’s new £140k p/w deal, he negotiated into his contract that he can not longer operate on the right anymore?

    Moreover, was Theo dropped cos of his shit show vs Chelsea or cos he’s nauseatingly limited against defender that don’t mirror McShane and Vergini?

    People on LG and that twat Moh on Arsenal TV saying we’re knee-jerking again are blinded by AKBism. This is far from a knee jerk reaction to one measly loss, ffs. This is a growing trend by Wenger’s troops.

    The arrogance from some of our crop is awful. We deservedly beat Chelsea last week, we looked improved. West Ham pull up and it’s almost like Arsenal expected a win by default.

    Going forward we need to field our strongest team:

    Cech

    Bellerin-Kos-Mert-Monreal
    Santi-Coq
    Ox-Ozil-Sanchez
    (regrettably) Giroud

  16. daz

    “I’ll say one thing. With that team West Ham will have a good season. They have strengthened well. Ditto Swansea, Southampton Palace and even Newcastle, Villa, Stoke have brought in good players. The big teams will have to show up for every game. There will be a few bloody noses this season.”

    I was thinking the same thing the top 4 will all drop points more often this season I think the total points required to win the league will be low this season compared to recent years looking at the fixtures theres not really a run of games that are bankers

  17. gambon

    “I was thinking the same thing the top 4 will all drop points more often this season I think the total points required to win the league will be low this season”

    People say that every season, and every season it takes 86-89 points to win the PL.

  18. Hitchy

    I was in the Clock End yesterday and atmosphere was terrible. First 10-20mins were ok. Once we went 1-0 down the fans were silent. We got made to look like mugs by West Ham fans for 70 minutes.

  19. PetrCechYourself

    How many of those 22 were on target? I don’t remember their goalkeeper having to make one save.
    ________________________________________________________________________________

    Most of them actually. Adrian actually had a very good match.

  20. Leedsgunner

    Carts @ 0856 (Le Grove time)

    Excellent post.

    West Ham played like we should have yesterday. Smart disciplined and organised. They came with a plan and stuck with it. Based on Wenger’s comments last night — all we brought to the party were excuses.

  21. Danny

    Most of them actually.
    —————–
    You and I must’ve been watching a different game mate. I don’t remember one shot that really troubled him except for Ramsey’s deflected shot that he tipped over which wouldn’t have gone in anyway.

  22. El Patron

    Its like you put any 2 tall black strong players in the middle of the park and Arsenal don’t know what to do with themselves…. Monaco and now West Ham… sigh

  23. jasongms

    “that was coq’s first really poor game, he needs caz alongside him”

    and this in a nut shell is why coq will never be a great CDM .

  24. tunnygriffboy

    Carts

    I made the point yesterday about West Ham being physically big. Not sure I used the terms monsters, but I might have. I just thought the looked much bigger than us all over the pich. Their back four was big as they had a CB playing RB. Why we didn’t swap Ox over for a bit to run at him after his yellow card I don’t know. The young man Oxford looks at least 6 ft then you have kouataye and Sakho as well. They also had a lot of pace and skill to counter

    We were limked with Kouyate 2 seasons ago. DM and CB. Mmmmmmmm

    Have rewatched the game. Their keeper made a few good saves but too many of our shots missed the target. We also held onto the ball too long on occasions when players in good positions to receive the ball.

    Bar the two goals they had two soft shots on target. As for the goals they didn’t really thrwaten. Kos and Cech for the first one. Ox ( again ) and Cech for the second though I thought Kos was blocking his view a bit

    I hope that’s a kick up the arse everyone needs

  25. Highbury4ever

    “Ozil – Great for the first 10 minutes then went for a beer”

    LOL Alex, Mesut don’t drink alcohol!! 😉

  26. mysticleaves

    “Cech – David Ospina didn’t die for this”

    sorry poster, definitely not Pedro, but Ospina Ddnt die for those, yes! he died for MUCH MUCH less.

    Cech in one match, has made more mistakes leading to goals than Ospina made in 16 matches and yet he gets a free pass? cos he’s what? cech?

    Cech is better than Ospina though but let’s call a spade a.spade when a.spade is required to be called a spade please.

  27. Leedsgunner

    “As well as Wilshere, Wenger confirmed Arsenal will also be without Alexis Sanchez for the season opener against West Ham on Sunday.” BBC

    …Unless of course you are being played off the park and you are desperate to save face.

    Pathetic.

    What about putting the club’s interests first Arsene?

  28. daz

    “People say that every season, and every season it takes 86-89 points to win the PL.”

    Depends how you look at it Chelsea got 87 points but would have won the league with 80 points last season I just don’t think anyone will run away with it this season, I’m not saying it will be drastically lower but the overall strength throughout the league has improved

  29. mysticleaves

    “that was coq’s first really poor game, he needs caz alongside him”

    and Coq wasn’t even poor. what game were you watching? a had a lot less to do. misplaced just the one pass and he had a poor game?

    it says something about your opposition when your DMF has only 2 tackles to make the whole game doesn’t it?

  30. tunnygriffboy

    Leeds

    Be fair. He also said Alexis came back in really good shape. 20 mins wouldn’t have killed him. If he was fit enough to train all week I would have used him as well.

  31. daz

    “…Unless of course you are being played off the park and you are desperate to save face. Pathetic. What about putting the club’s interests first Arsene?”

    Or maybe desperate to pull something out the game which would be in the clubs interest?

  32. gambon

    “it says something about your opposition when your DMF has only 2 tackles to make the whole game doesn’t it?”

    Erm, you mean ZERO tackles?

  33. Biggus

    I have to say that we are suffering from our managers undying belief in some of his mediocre players. I wouldn’t have played Ramsey yesterday because as much as he is one of the better players in the club, he’s a one track minded sort of player.

    Players like him need to be given instructions to follow if being played out of his position and Giroud is not a first choice striker for a team chasing the title.

    I’m hopeful we will turn this result around but that’s not the point; it’s the fact that this is more consistent than it should be; almost like we don’t learn from past mistakes.

    We need that extra gear to differentiate us from the rest of the pack which we continue to lack if we are not proactive enough. I can understand Wenger’s fascination with sticking to some of these guys cos he’s done a lot of work with them but sometimes you have to put the need of your own personal feelings aside and focus on what’s best for the club to be part of the elite status we aimed for with the stadium move and austerity period.

  34. DUIFG

    it looked a carbon copy of the monaco game, no width whatsoever, clogged in the middle easy to defend. so predictable.

    not sure why wenger could not see this, walcott coming on just clogged it even more, needs to be told to hold width

  35. DUIFG

    “that was coq’s first really poor game, he needs caz alongside him” and this in a nut shell is why coq will never be a great CDM .

    quite possibly, but thisd has been his first bad game, the whole thing was a bit of a shambles, rambo was worse. all started when caz was moved from the slot he has so much influance in

  36. El Patron

    Coq didnt have a bad game. Ox was the only offensive person who seemed he might have a chance at unlocking the west ham defense.

    The whole team couldnt pass 5 yards… so wont even single out anyone in regards to passing accuracy.

    Its one game but Debuchy is no Bellerin.

    You could see sanchez was not fit but even so…. he looked more dangerous in 10 minutes than the rest did in 90.

    and Wenger needs to stop trying to fit squares into circles…. FFS just play ppl in their right positions… no way santi should be out wide left yesterday. was so annoying to see.

    he needs to decide now….Ramsey… Ozil… Santi… one of these has to be dropped to keep balance.

  37. vicky

    I do not understand the point of making Arteta the Captain of this team when he can’t even make our starting 11, let alone being a star performer. I mean I get it that he is a good professional and can give a few good speeches when required but we have a manager to give those speeches in the dressing room. What we need is a leader on the pitch, someone who can marshal the troops and lead by example. Yesterday we needed someone on the pitch to tell Ramsey not to be a selfish moron , to ask Coq to play withing his own limits and not try to be a Pirlo. Wenger has made Arsenal captaincy a joke. What credentials Arteta has to be our captain ? He is a minnow in terms of achievement when you compare him to the likes of BFG, Ozil,Santi, Alexis. Is he gonna preach them as to what they should have been doing on the pitch if at all he starts for us, that is. Absolutely shocking decision by Arsene. Besides, he himself does not look like directing the proceedings from the sidelines these days. He sits there grim faced shaking his heads all the time. George Graham has rightly questioned the lack of leadership in our team.

  38. underrated Coq

    I see that Cech is getting off lightly here. Lots of excuses being made for him. Does he deserve it though ?

    Yes, I know it was his first competitive game for the club and there’s also the small matter of his outstanding record in the PL that can speak for itself.

    But if we are to give an honest appraisal, he was Arsenal’s worst player on the pitch and it was mainly his mistakes that cost us the match.

    The writers on Le-grove had some kind of obsession with Ospina, unfairly criticizing him and making him out to be some kind of a second-rate keeper. When in reality he was a solid keeper who rarely made mistakes that cost the team.

    I remember him being lambasted on here when he couldn’t keep out Kondogbia’s long range shot in the CL. Well at least that shot took a wicked deflection and Ospina looked to have committed diving the other way. What about Cech’s disaster keeping for the second goal yesterday ?

    Ospina played a lot of games last season. Can you remember him giving ONE performance which was nearly as bad as Cech’s ?

  39. DUIFG

    gambonDisagree mate. He had a tidy game. Little to do.

    misplaced a couple in the first haslf which killed the vibe, on the ball all day could not do much, as i say the whole thing was shokcing but coq definitely was not good.

  40. MeGunner

    Why is Coquelin always the first casualty sub whenever we are in trouble? Cos all he does is block and block nothing else. Can you imagine Matic being subbed when Chelsea are chasing a game? Yes put all the stats together, we need a Coquelin upgrade not a back up.

    By the way signing Benzema won’t win us the league. We need a little more.

  41. gambon

    Wenger will just do anything to fit as many central midfielders in as possible.

    Coquelin & Cazorla formed a good partnership, but Wengers desperation to get extra CMs in sees him play Coquelin, Ramsey, Cazorla and Ozil all at the same time.

    Thats 3 players that all want to be a number 10.

    Absolutely insane.

  42. mysticleaves

    we have reports saying Theo is on 110 a week and another saying he’s on 140k. why do people ignore one for the other? we don’t really know what wally is earning but it is way less than what Falcao earned last season to be no 2 striker at man utd and still less than what Falcao is earning at Chelsea to be no 2 striker.

    bony is on 120, jovetic was in 125, sturrigde is on 110, van persie was on what 250?

    Theo still performed more than these guys last season.

  43. TitsMcGee

    If Scezzers had made the mistake Cech did, we would have vilified him.”

    Scezzers made mistakes for years and years.

    Cech’s track record speaks for itself. Every GK has a bad game. Scezzer just had bad years.

  44. SpanishDave

    Wenger got it all wrong again, he is a poor tactical coach. He plays his favorites, and has no idea about team set up for games like this.
    He has run out of ideas , he just repeats the same old patterns.
    When we loose next week end I hope the fans hit the shit.

  45. DUIFG

    I see that Cech is getting off lightly here. Lots of excuses being made for him. Does he deserve it though ? Yes, I know it was his first competitive game for the club and there’s also the small matter of his outstanding record in the PL that can speak for itself. But if we are to give an honest appraisal, he was Arsenal’s worst player on the pitch and it was mainly his mistakes that cost us the match. The writers on Le-grove had some kind of obsession with Ospina, unfairly criticizing him and making him out to be some kind of a second-rate keeper. When in reality he was a solid keeper who rarely made mistakes that cost the team. I remember him being lambasted on here when he couldn’t keep out Kondogbia’s long range shot in the CL. Well at least that shot took a wicked deflection and Ospina looked to have committed diving the other way. What about Cech’s disaster keeping for the second goal yesterday ?Ospina played a lot of games last season. Can you remember him giving ONE performance which was nearly as bad as Cech’s ?

    calm down pal, im going to trust chech over a career rather than that flapping shambles from ospina last year.

  46. omar

    To those of you who believe we are 1 or 2 players away from being genuine contenders for the big pots, think about this. After going 0-2 down Wenger subbed on Alexis Sanchez, the same guy that Wenger himself said 2 days ago, will be back in 10 days. What does this say about our so-called depth. If you have to even select a player on the bench who is supposedly 8 days away from being available, sorry, I have to question the quality of our players. Depth in numbers and depth in quality are two completely different things.

  47. nepGunner

    MTLM

    I immerse myself in the game during match times, so could not respond to your dying star theory of supernova in relation to Alexis’ form this year.. I meant the “stellar explosion that briefly (i.e. the whole season – since we are talking in relation to the universe 🙂 ) outshines the ENTIRE galaxy!”…

    As it stands out based on y’day’s game…your theory will most likely be the better interpretation

  48. omar

    Friday 7th- “One of our targets is to start strongly. We had a good preparation, which should give us more confidence.”- Wenger.

    Sunday 9th- “We could see that, fitness-wise, we are not completely there yet.”- Wenger.

  49. Carts

    Tunny

    Wasn’t having a dig, fella. Just repeated what I saw when I skimmed through LG before I hit the sack.

    West Ham were physically bigger, but I don’t thing that was a pivotal factor.

    They were hardly giving us the ‘Duncan Ferguson treatment’ yesterday. Don’t even think there was a full blooded tackle in the whole 90mins.

    Ogbonna and Noble were probably shitting brick as soon as they were booked. West Ham have had 2 red cards in their last 2 European games. We did fuck all to force error from either.

    “Why we didn’t swap Ox over for a bit to run at him after his yellow card I don’t know.”

    I used to ask the same shitting question whenever I was forced to watch Theo play like a converted 100m sprinter. My first thought would be ‘for the love dog, please mix it up a little and piss off to the other flank’ – keep the defender guessing.

    I can imagine Wenger saying to Sanchez when he first landed “I need you to stick to the left bla bla fucking bla”. Sanchez, while gazing at Wenger probably thought, “yeah, like fuck I will”.

    So what do we get? A player that is levels above the rest; a luxury player that loves the game, gives as much as he can and scores goal. Yes he had a few shite games last season and overplays in parts, but his worth to Arsenal is more than Theo, Wilshere, Ramsey, Welbeck and Giroud.

  50. omar

    In my opinion, Wenger knows we need to strengthen. Why would you declare a player 10 days away from availability then turn around and select him 2 days later. Then play him when the chips are down. To me this illustrates your confidence or lack of in your other players.

    But why should Wenger be bothered to strengthen. In the middle of the transfer window when managers are busy trying to strengthen, our CEO comes out and tells the world that Wenger has no expiration date and basically he is here for life. With that leeway, why would anyone be pressured to do anything.

  51. Leedsgunner

    tunny and daz

    We’re talking about West Ham — we should have enough in our supposed big squad to comfortably beat them if we had prepared properly. We had no European distractions, no injuries to our star players (I myself don’t consider Wilshere a star player) to deal with. We were in good form and confidence. Against a rookie manager.

    The point is we shouldn’t have our backs to wall desperately against West Ham in the first place.

    Are we a big club or not?

  52. Dream10

    The Ox dribbling in his own defensive third of the field. Shambolic stuff.

    The most concerning aspect of yesterday’s match was the lack of chance creation.
    Off the ball movement was non-existent, no third man runs into the box.
    Hardly an quality goal attempts.

  53. Leedsgunner

    “it looked a carbon copy of the monaco game, no width whatsoever, clogged in the middle easy to defend. so predictable”

    Easily our worst game last season.

    So much for “learning from our mistakes”. Has Arteta made the obligatory propaganda piece for Arsenal.com yet?

  54. alex cutter

    “How many of those 22 were on target? I don’t remember their goalkeeper having to make one save.”
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    “Most of them actually. Adrian actually had a very good match.”
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    If only there were a way to look up stats when needed? Like, online or something?

    Arsenal 22 (6)

    Is “6” most of them?

  55. Carts

    Leeds

    Wenger’s Book of Excuses is the biggest joke of all.

    The man truly does set himself up to fail.

    He picked the wrong team. To AKBs, this is hindsight talking. To those of us that are awake, it’s typical Wenger shite.

  56. mysticleaves

    I repeat again, incase you Cechaholics missed it. Ospina made only one errot leading to goals Last season in 16 games, Cech has already arguably made 2.

    Ospina was skinned.for doing much less wrong than Cech did today and yet no complaints about Petr.

    I was on here with a few people, I think underrated, saying Arsenal overpaid for Cech considering his age and also pointed how he could be a liability in some games. I just didn’t know it will be this soon

    I also said Cech wouldn’t make a difference in our quest to win the league cos Ospina did everything right last season.

    Cech is a better keeper than Ospina but Ospina was never our problem.

  57. Emiratesstroller

    Carts

    I made also the point about size of West Ham Players. If you had been at the
    game you would have seen the physical difference.

    Also I disagree with your observation about aerial supremacy. I don’t think that we won one clean ball from our set pieces and corners in their area.

    I agree also with what George Graham has suggested that this team for all its
    talent lacks a “team leader”. I would suggest that applies both on and off field.

    This is where Mourinho outperforms Wenger. He reacts positively to any given situation. Wenger takes a lifetime to react to what opposition are doing.

    If you don’t win 4 out of 5 home games and cannot score a goal in any of them
    surely you find a solution to that problem? Wenger has failed to do so and it
    showed yesterday.

    We ran out of ideas once they scored their goal. Arsenal are not particularly
    good in games where they are being frustrated by opposition.

  58. daz

    Leeds I know we should have beaten them no doubt, I wouldn’t say Bilic is a rookie though he’s a very good manager he will have that west ham team fired up for sure

  59. Kane

    Yesterday’s shambles was 100% down to the way Wenger set the team up – as others have said, instead of playing players in the right position (I will play Ozil as a no. 10 this year), he set the team up to fail – and fail they did.

    I’d also point out that like most of the games played this weekend – fitness played a part… our lack of match sharpness vs a West Ham side that had played 3-4 more competitive games than us.

    Not an excuse for the performance, more of an explanation that goes beyond “Wenger out”.

    Looking for a big reaction vs Palace – and Liverpool… scary to think that 1 game into the new season, our season is over already… but that is how people are these days I guess – you are either the best or the worst and there is little room inbetween.

  60. tunnygriffboy

    Shouldn’t Sanchez be the best, and be like he is. That’s what he was bought for ditto Hazard, Aguero Costa et al. Brilliant players are bought to do something special and raise the level of other players.

    Underrated

    Cech made an error which he has apologised for. Kos lost the scorer badly. Hats off Payet for the free kick. Perfect. ( didn’t realise he was 28, thought he was a youngster )

    Second goal he probably thought we had cleared it ( shouldn’t have ). I do think that his view was blocked by Kos and he thought Zarate was going for the top corner.

  61. Leedsgunner

    “If Scezzers had made the mistake Cech did, we would have vilified him.”

    At least Cech had the decency to hold his hands up and say sorry. What did Szczesney do last game he had a shocker? Sucked on his water bottle like a baby, and have a smoke in the shower.

    Yes Cech had a bad game… but the whole team did.

  62. Highbury4ever

    “Looking for a big reaction…”

    The life of an Arsenal fan these days, resumed in 5 few words, well done!!

  63. daz

    “I repeat again, incase you Cechaholics missed it. Ospina made only one errot leading to goals Last season in 16 games, Cech has already arguably made 2.”

    This is where being a big name will allow some leeway I think ospina was being judged based on him being the budget option

  64. Carts

    Mystic

    Fella what are you on?

    A simple google search will tell you what said player is on. Even the latest football manager has their salaries.

    The reason why we talk of Theo’s £140k p/w wage is cos that’s the figure that was revealed in most quarters. And 90% of people know he isn’t worth anywhere near that figure. Inflation or no inflation.

    Common tells you he’s not on £110k as naturally, players tend to look for a pay rise, thus by using your logic, are we to say Theo was on <£100k before he signed his deal before his most recent one????

    Bony deal is allegedly a complicated one. Jovetic plays for Inter now, and Sturridge is Liverpools highest earner and would probably be joint highest earner if he was playing for us on his current wage.

  65. Carts

    Emirates

    And I recognise that West Ham likely had a superior average height than us, but that was not the reason why we lost. An observation, yes. But for the most part a pointless fact.

    “We ran out of ideas once they scored their goal. Arsenal are not particularly
    good in games where they are being frustrated by opposition.”

    Really? were we really frustrated by West Ham? They didn’t park the bus, they weren’t doing Allardici long balls they weren’t smashing our players, they were just better than us.

    It’s like that prat Moh on Arsenal TV, he had the cheek to say “Adrian was time wasting”. What a fucking tool. Fucking LOLOLOLOLOL

  66. Carts

    Cech error at coming for the ball is trivial as even if he strayed on his line Kouyate would’ve still made a clean connection and likely scored.

    Getting beat by Zarate was far worse imho. Zarate hardly wellied it, did he? Cech was wrong footed and reacted like a dial up internet connection.

  67. underrated Coq

    tunny

    Yeah, Cech at his best is probably one of the best keepers in the World. Even Cech at his average-good form is better than most keepers. My question has always remained however whether, at 33 , he could maintain form over a season.

    The last season he played first choice for Chelsea, I remember a lot of Chelsea fans talking about errors creeping into Cech’s game. Two years has passed and at his age, its more likely he’s gotten worse rather than better.

    I guess we shall see ! Judging someone of his class over one game is probably premature stuff.

  68. tunnygriffboy

    Leeds

    Being a big club or not at two nil down when you have your best attacking plaayer on the bench, who isn’t injured but just not quite match fit, wouldn’t most managers bring him on ? I think Mourinho would bring Costa on , Pellegrini Aguero. He’s your best player and your other forward option has been put on.

  69. naijagunner

    Spending the whole week emphasizing the need for a good start then serving up what was served yesterday is inexcusable, Jobs have been lost for less.

    Please stop making excuses for Cech, he let himself down yesterday.

  70. The Colonel

    Yesterday just felt so familiar.

    A general lack of urgency from us and while I wouldn’t say we were terrible we appeared to be just going through the motions. Dominated the play without really looking that dangerous.

    Petr Cech did a passable impression of young Wojcech.

    Makes Palace up next seem like a massive game.

  71. daz

    “We will regret winning the two fa cups in years to come Only strengthen the grip he has on the club.”

    I don’t think he will sign a new deal

  72. naijagunner

    Ramsey needs time on the bench to cool off from his extreme selfishness

    Ozil really needs someone to drag him by the ears and talk to him

    Chamberlain needs to stop turning over possession at the edge of his box

    Cech has some making up to do already

    debuchy is behind bellerin, he offers nothing going forward , just lofted crosses with no pace .

    I don’t get how Wenger can stand watching Giroud for another season, i know i can’t

    Our so called squad depth is nothing but a mirage . We still need players and physical specimens at that, not another Cazorla that gets shrugged off the ball like a ten year old .

  73. Marko

    My problem is the midfield definitely something not right there. Lack of creativity aside cause you assume it’ll get better even though the end of last season and yesterday in the league showed we were really poor in that area. It’s the lack of control that has me worried. We never seem to be able to grab the game by the scruff of the neck. Ball retention and possession has been lacking for a long time now. You get it against bigger teams in certain games cause we’re (trying anyway) to be a counter attacking team but at home against weaker teams we allow so many teams time on the ball. On the basis of yesterday not only is a Krychowiak or Carvalho being needed but a Gundogen or Kroos or Matuidi too. Or at the very least we need to realize not to change a winning formula and we can’t afford Ozil and Ramsey and Cazorla all playing together. One has to make do with a place on the bench

  74. Carts

    Bankz
    August 10, 2015 05:48:48

    “Ramsey is so arrogant & selfish that it is unreal how he got picked for games last season. I thought marriage/Wenger should have changed him but yesterday showed he is still lacking discipline as ever.”

    Fucking spot on. Ramsey’s ball retention is worrying. His knack for trying flicks is embarrassing. He looks spent when ever he TRIES to get forward. And he’s lucky he didn’t end up in a heap on the end of that Kouyate tackle. He needs to learn to turn the ball over quicker. So overrated it ridiculous.

    “I said Debuchy was a worst signing than Welbeck last season and I got attacked on here & on twitter. He’s was injured quite okay but at 29yrs, I’ve never watched him & went “wow!”. Saw him a lot at Lille as I was made crazy about Hazard. Saw him at Newcastle & nothing says he’s better than Sagna so why the fuck did we go sign him up?
    I loathe Jenkinson as an Arsenal player but I think he offers more than Debuchy.
    Bellerin looks world class when you see Debuchy play.
    Play Debuchy or set up the way we did yesterday against Palace & as someone rightly said,we’d get fucked right in the Debuchy”

    Ahh man, wish you saw the people who were out in their droves crying at the thought of giving Sagna the deal he was after. People creaming their pants at an average Newcatle RB – Debauchy. Made it abundantly clear that we’re better of holding on to the £12m and £80k wage and keeping Sagna. What was it “oh, Sagna has had two leg breaks, he’s 31 and giving him that kind of money wouldn’t be justified” Now you’ve got people out here saying “I don’t really care what Theo is on, he a family guys, been at Arsenal for ten years and £140k is the going rate”

  75. Leedsgunner

    tunny

    I understand what you are saying — but my point is we should not have been down 2-0 to West Ham at home in the first place.

    Were the goals that we gave away yesterday unstoppable “worldies” or memorable “goals of the season” contenders? Or were they sloppy goals were could have prevented giving away caused by poor concentration and positioning?

    No wonder our star players attract so many injuries, we play them in games we should be able to put away… that was my point.

  76. THC

    As much as l haaatee Arsenal losing, this early wake up call might have been needed. l’ve watched countless games over the years in which the players have cringingly talked all week about how they’re going to do this and do that, this invariably brings added pressure and they rarely back it up. My advised to the players would be keep quiet and let you’re talking happen on the pitch.

  77. Marko

    Make no mistake either absolutely no way Ivan will be happy with that shite yesterday. Spending the whole summer talking up our credentials only to produce a showing like that will have him nervous. We flatter to deceive like usual. Great at pretending to be title challengers. Bring in two players before the end of the window and try to appear you want to salvage this chance we have to challenge this year. At least look like you’ve got some ambition. Yesterday looked like a team resigned to rest on their laurels

  78. vicky

    Well, Sagna was no world beater either especially since his leg fractures. lacked pace, looked clueless going forward. Debuchy is not great but Sagna was not either.

  79. tunnygriffboy

    Leeds

    No, we shouldn’t have been two nil down. But we were so he came on. Apparently he and Theo were doing training after the game along with the other subs. Expect to see him for an hour next week.

    Palace is now a must win game. They are a bloody good side. Pace and poor with Cabaye pulling the strings. I thought this was potentially the toughest fixture of the first 3 games.

  80. Carts

    “Well, Sagna was no world beater either especially since his leg fractures. lacked pace, looked clueless going forward. Debuchy is not great but Sagna was not either.”

    Lacked pace but filled in at CB perfectly; well rarely left for dead. Clueless going forward? Now you’re clutching. Was Debauchy in anyway an upgrade? fuck no, he an average RB at best. Pointless signing,

  81. Logie Bear

    Morning all,

    @ Daz “We will regret winning the two fa cups in years to come Only strengthen the grip he has on the club.” I don’t think he will sign a new deal

    We can but hope….such a shame that his legacy is being spoiled by this shambles. Fed up reading how we must start well etc etc. God knows we need to step it up against Palace.

    Agree with some earlier posters that the likes of West Ham, Southampton, even Stoke seem to have bought 1 or 2 good players and so hopefully there’ll be many more shock results along the way.

    oh and where was “cohesion” yesterday…..?!?!?

  82. Carts

    Pardew is a super melt, but you can see what difference having a team, fans and owner behind you can do.

    I think there’ll be an expected reaction from the guys, but that Palace game will not be easy. I think we’ll get a draw out of them.

  83. From Germany with Love.

    I’d love to be proved wrong but I for one feels that Rambo is not completely ready for that central role. He was constantly making wrong passes. Cazorla gives us that much needed stability in that deeper role. Yes he’s a bit old but he holds the ball really well under pressure, especially when surrounded by 2-3 players and finds a way to get out that situation and he’s always available for Coq. That said, Receiving the ball from Coq and distributing it cleverly by linking up with Ozil gave us that stability last season.
    But what did wenger do? He destroyed that stability by pushing Ozil out wide and Played Rambo in that deeper role. I mean why did he start Giroud ahead of
    Walcot? As much as I like to see him answer his critics, I’m afraid that’s never gonna happen because he bottled it when it mattered yesterday. He couldn’t even find the target from the penalty box twice. It’s going to happen again and again.
    One word on the Ox, He’s arguably our best player yesterday but what’s going on with him when he’s under pressure. He gives away the ball in dangerous areas too often. Shouldn’t wenger be sorting that out with all his experience? It happened many times.
    Wenger needs to grow a pair of b a l l s and bench one of Ramsey, Santi and Ozil. Playing three of them is the worst idea why can’t he rotate between Ramsey and Santi and leave Ozil in that no 10 role.
    It’ll only be a matter of time before Ozil starts complaining about his position and when that happen people, we’re in deep shit. He’s a nice guy but his talent is wasted on the wings.
    I hate to agree but Your comment on mourinho is true. There’s a difference between Bouncing back from bad times and giving your 110% not to loose. I work for the British army and trust me, I know the moral. I’m saying this because no one seems to fight their hearts out when we were loosing yesterday apart from Alexis even when he was not fit.
    And guess what, Jack has got that aggressiveness and drive. He plays his heart out with 110% effort.

  84. Leedsgunner

    tunny

    I agree that Crystal Palace is a must win game.

    Here’s the thing. If Wenger’s excuse for this poor performance was that his players were too nervous and that hey put too much pressure on themselves… how are they going to cope this week?

  85. tunnygriffboy

    Carts

    Lay off the Welsh Jesus, I’m sensitive about it 🙂 🙂

    No it wasn’t his best game yesterday , the chemistry in’t quite right with him and Coq. Wilshere is a better option with Coq, they’ve played a lot with each other. Ramsey needs more of a passer with him so he can make those runs forward. Arteta works with him, so would someone like Schneiderlin ……….. sigh

    Checked Ramsey’ s passing stats because he didn’t play that well. Was 89 %. So perhaps he didn’t give it away too much after all.

  86. Leedsgunner

    “Was Debauchy in anyway an upgrade? fuck no, he an average RB at best. Pointless signing,”

    Not sure about this. At the time of Sagna’s departure Bellerin still hadn’t emerged and Jekinson was inconsistent at best.

    Debuchy was brought in as a like for like for Sagna… except he got became badly injured twice in the same season and Chambers was brought in as his understudy. I was hoping Debuchy was very poor yesterday… I would have expected someone who was fighting for his place to have shown more desire.

    When is Bellerin due back?

  87. Logie Bear

    @ Leeds: Re nervousness – agreed. If we were nervous after such an apparently great pre-season, how the f**k are we going to cope if (and at the moment its a very big IF) we’re anywhere near challenging for the title come Feb/March ?!?!?

  88. Up 4 Grabs Now

    Not going to lose my head after 1 game, but you would think by now wenger would have a plan B after watching us play the same tactics over and over again.

    The team that started yesterday was pretty much the one most people would have started with bar bellerin for debuchy.( And he was injured so i cant fault Wenger for that)
    But after 30 minutes you could see it wasnt working and needed changing.
    If you need to play somebody on the wing buy a winger Not cazorla, Ramsay, wiltshire, or Ozil.
    Or change the system. Square pegs & Round holes!

    Cech was poor for both Goals, Not helped by the defence. But still at fault for Both.
    Debuchy doesn’t have the pace of bellerin, so didn’t get forwards as much, Meaning it was left wing, or trying to play through the centre which was never going to work.
    The midfield was shocking, Coquelin about the best of the bunch.
    he did what he had to do and as much as he is a defensive midfielder i would have hooked every other midfielder before him.

    By the way Arsene, Ox at right back Really!

    Giroud had little service but was poor.
    There was no pace no urgency after the break or after the second goal went in.

    Palace and the Bin dippers are now must win games, otherwise we are chasing a 5-6 point gap by the third game.

    Sorry arsene you might think Benzema wouldn’t make a difference but if he is available? then get your arse in gear and strengthen please.

  89. Biggus

    I liked Debuchy when we got him but i’m sorry, the youthfulness of Bellerin has helped us a lot in the past season. I think Debuchy should be his deputy to shore up defence if we are leading and want to protect a lead.

    Sad thing is Wenger will not change anything and see this as an accident..Ramsey will not be told to be less selfish, Ox will not be reprimanded about his lack of concentration when in the middle and Giroud will still be told he’s an elite striker, up there with the best of them.

    As much as I don’t like most of these Liverpool ex pundits, Danny Murphy summed up the match perfectly in a piece on the bbc site. We had 3 No. 10s in the team with all of them playing too central. No width or penetration and that’s why we didn’t take advantage of the card Tomkins got at the start as he was left to operate on LB with no fuss..

  90. Logie Bear

    Alex – great post. The complacency was indeed worrying, but not altogether unexpected. And yet the crowd didn’t seem to turn on the players as much as after Villa 2 years ago. Yet another false dawn. Sigh…

  91. Carts

    Tunny

    I feel that Ramsey tries to hard. I think he has a problem with sticking to the simply things.

    He wasn’t dispossessed endlessly, but on occasions when he did lose the ball it was so needless and very avoidable.

    I don’t get how having a “passer” next to Ramsey benefits him? Surely his forward runs would be to assist and support the likes of Sanchez and Ox? Ramsey can’t carry ball well.

    Coquelin isn’t in a position to dribble forward and skip past challenges. When Santi is next to him, he gives it straight to him. Yesterday the ball was by passing Ramsey from what I saw.

  92. warchester

    what frustrates me the most is arsene wants to play tippy tap triangles to slice the defence open when probably only wilshere, rosicky and cazorla are natural players for that and two of those are not starters…the mindset is to play all your “best” players without regard to positional chemistry and the result is we have all this pace and space players sanchez, walcott, ox, ozil all wasted down the drain and deemed shit players when things don’t work.

    Yes they have weaknesses like all players do but they are also top players for a reason but if you don’t use their strengths, all their weaknesses come out…we have to play more more like the german nat team than barcelona

  93. Arsene's Nurse

    DUIFG
    August 10, 2015 09:24:52

    it looked a carbon copy of the monaco game, no width whatsoever, clogged in the middle easy to defend. so predictable.

    not sure why wenger could not see this, walcott coming on just clogged it even more, needs to be told to hold width
    ————————————————————————————————
    We’ve been like that for years, it’s a fundamental flaw in the way Wenger sets the team up. In order to play the 4-2-3-1 against organised and disciplined teams who defend in the middle of the pitch and force you wide, then you need wide players who are able to beat a man on the outside.

    Arsenal have traditionally relied on the two full-backs to push up and provide the width and the overlap. However, that leads huge gaps for the counter-attack. Coquelin goes some way to solving that, but the better solution is to play proper wingers who stretch the opposition and give width whilst creating additional space in the middle for your creative and driving midfielders to exploit.

    Instead we have wingers who cut in and dribble or midfielders played wide who cut in too. Everything becomes narrow and easy to defend against. There really is a simple method to getting points from Arsenal and more and more clubs are employing it.

    Wenger can’t see it because he has the belief that if you “play the Arsenal way”, you win regardless of who you are up against. The French from Alsace are famous for their arrogance and Wenger’s arrogance transfers to the team.

    This has been going on for years. Any decent manager would come up with a solution to the problem and instruct his players to be aware of it and change the play.

    Yesterday I put up the team sheet and commented as to whether it was going to be Ozil or Ramsey out wide. As soon as I saw it was Ramsey in the middle I thought we may struggle because the settled and winning formula is a Coq/Cazorla/Ozil midfield. Why change what works?

    As soon as you saw it not working why didn’t they revert? Wenger has his pet projects and his favourites and uses them to the detriment of the team.

    The second half of last season and the two FA cup wins have masked the underlying problems. This is why fans behave in a Jekyll and Hyde way. They think we’ve cracked it only for the balloon to be popped and us revert to type.

    The AKBs will support Wenger no matter what and make every excuse, however, this club will not move forward until he is gone because Wenger is incapable of change.

  94. Carts

    Leeds

    Yes, I agree he was brought in as a direct replacement for a Sagna. But when you look at the wider picture, Wenger pretty much cut of his nose to spite his face.

    Sagna’s position wasn’t one that needed to be seriously addressed. He was far from a weak link in our setup. We just weren’t prepared to give him the deal he was after and got rid. We brought in a mature RB which is an indication that Wenger had a long term plan for Bellerin/Jenkinson and Chambers/

  95. Disgruntled Gunner

    Cech – Shit
    Debuchy – Meh
    Koscielny – Best Arsenal player but poor
    Mertesacker – Similar to Koscielny
    Monreal – Like the start of last season
    Ramsey – Dire, this guy thinks he can play for Barcelona?
    Coquelin – Seemed very pacey and one of Arsenal’s better performers
    Chamberlain – Arsenal’s biggest threat
    Ozil – Getting sick of people saying how his game is so great. Shit.
    Cazorla – Faded away, couldn’t blame him really.
    Giroud- Shit.

  96. peanuts&monkeys

    @mysticleavesAugust 10, 2015 09:29:04

    “theo did better than Bony, sturridge, RvP”?? (a) How, (b) Last season is history. Can you confirm he will do better than each one of them even this season?

  97. tunnygriffboy

    Carts.

    Coquelin gives the ball straight to Santi whereas it was bypassing Ramsey yesterday

    That is the point. Ramsey likes to get forward quickly. Santi is an older head, 3xperience and cleverly finds space to receive the ball from Coquelin. He has a better passing range than Ramsey able to use both feet really well.

    TBH if he is adament that Ramsey, Santi and Coq have to play then I’d rather he played Santi in the middle with Rambo on the right with Bellerin overlapping ( we missed him yesterday ). It was ok the end of last season. Ox could play on the left.

    I’d be inclined to bench Ramsey on the weekend if Alexis is ok to play. Would have him on the left with Ox on the left. Try and let them come onto us then boom 🙂 🙂

  98. peanuts&monkeys

    Nobody shoots at the goal. Even Sanchez, the best player of Arsenal wanted an empty net before he could take a shot. Every arsenal forward wants THAT PERFECT SHOT AT GOAL. As if WengerBastard will fine them if they shoot and miss, and not if they do not attempt.

  99. Highbury4ever

    Awesome, it’s only the opening of the PL and everybody already laughing at us.
    Excepted maureen of course, who’s laughing at us… all the time lol

  100. jasongms

    @ Arsene’s Nurse

    awesome post , my sentiments exactly …
    ___________________________________________________

    Further more I think it was Alex that made the observation a while ago that coq needs santi to be effective and that that was his reasoning for wanting an upgrade , which i fully endorse

  101. tunnygriffboy

    ******* some of these players need to benched if they are not up to scratch and need to think about it *******

    Mind you we’d need a church pew after yesterdays performance 🙂 🙂

  102. vicky

    Carts

    Debuchy was good before he suffered back to back injuries.You are judging a player based on his performance post injuries which is a tad unfair to him. So, I would say he was a decent signing when we bought him. How good or bad he is now? Well, I will wait before passing a judgement on him.

  103. Cesc Appeal

    Why do Arsenal fans still act surprised about this stuff?

    Big game, big expectation on the shoulders of Arsenal and we bottle it.

    No need to get mad really, it is what it is, only reason to get mad is if you thought we genuinely could challenge for the league. We can’t.

    Not the way we are right now anyway.

    Cech was poor, Debuchy was bang average, Mert was poor, Kozz was boss, Monreal was average, Ramsey was horrendous, Coquelin was abysmal, Cazorla was slow and aimless, Ozil was invisible, Oxlade had one good half, Giroud was Giroud.

    Credit to West Ham by the way, another manager who outsmarted Wenger, came with a plan, were solid and purposeful on the counter…Payet looks a bargain, great game from him, a team that has Ozil and Cazorla and I was watching him play enviously.

    Wenger needs to pull his finger out in the market, and the players need to wake up (manager’s job as well.)

    Result really changes nothing, we needed a ST and a CDM all summer…we still do.

  104. Carts

    Vicky

    Before we even signed Debuchy I was totally against the purchase as I didn’t think it was necessary. Never ever been a fan of him – £12m & £80k for an average RB…injuries or no injuries.

    It wasn’t a problem area, and clearly as we were on the brink of bringing in a 29 yr old RB, it was obvious that he was only ever going to be a stop gap till Bellerin, Chambers and Jenkinson stepped up.

    Sagna was only 2 years older and only months prior was filling in at CB effortlessly,

  105. tunnygriffboy

    Cesc

    Welcome back boss. Where you been at ?

    Magnificent start to the season. Palace and Lpool now must win games. Bloody yesterday spoiled my elation of the ashes. The more I see the more I get hacked off re Schneiderlin. Ramsey needs a passer with him.

    I was just hoping we’d finish closer to the title winners than last season. Much closer. We will see. All the media pundits bigging us up I am a bit surprised with.But heyho they’ll enjoy knocking us down.

  106. Uwot?

    One thing you learn very quickly when supporting the arsenal is that we are withoubt a doubt the only f******ng club in the entire universe that can bring you from the heights of ecstasy to the depths of despair in a flash.it’s worth remembering this to prevent any suicidal notions…..

  107. jasongms

    Debuchy wasnt fit and hadnt played a professional game for over 3 months . Nothing to do with his ability and more to do with wengers training methods

    What was concerning was the amount of times coq was caught out of position and thus exposing mert’s limitations (namely his lack of pace).

    Also everyone creaming themselves over our perceived squad depth were again found to be mistaken .. we need a draxler or reus and or just a change of management , which ever comes first !!

  108. Carts

    Nurse

    I hadn’t read your post till Leeds commented.

    Having read it, your last 4 paragraph are spot on. I think it further highlights Wenger’s arrogance and pride that has risen to dizzying heights.

  109. Redtruth

    A solid defence is an alien concept to Wenger this is why the best form of defence is attack and the real need is quality flair players who can unlock stubborn defences.

  110. Alan Sunderland's barber

    “…dicking around on the edge of the box”

    Exactly. Predictable crab football with no end product.

    If the players weren’t doing what Wenger expected of them, why was he sat on his scrawny arse on the bench instead of getting to the edge of the technical area and sorting them out? Bilic was buzzing around his technical area constantly, encouraging, cajoling and directing his team. Wenger just sits back and goes into hiding.

    It’s the same damned thing every bloody season. Wenger’s had all summer to correct things, to change the approach. But he believes his own press and thinks he’s a genius. Then it’s everyone’s fault but his.