WELCOME. #Arsenal vs #WUFC preview 🍻🍻🍻

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HAPPY NEW SEASON TO YA’LL

It’s great to hear from you at this early AM moment.

Just a short one this morning because I’ve been in build up mode for 3 months and I’m hungover!

Yesterday gave us few surprises.

United beat Spurs. Who cares? Two average teams pelting it out for 5th.

Chelsea took ONE point at home against Swansea. They were rank average. Who cares? We all do. That’s a big couple of points dropped from a team struggling despite little player movement this summer. They’ll obviously get it together, but it’s amusing to watch their bad preseason follow them into the real thing!

Today is a potential banana skin in the same way Villa was last year.

Actually, that’s a ‘I’m just being humble’ lie. We should smash them. No doubt.

All my Hammers pals are predicting annihilation, but I have to be fair, that’s the standard response from the eternal pessimists. Sean over ‘West Ham Till I die’ dished me out some insight into what’s going off at the Boleyn.

>>What’s Slaven bringing to the West Ham table this season?

Hopefully more exciting and entertaining football this season. He is a different kind of manager to Sam Allardyce who was results driven so playing style and entertainment didn’t factor into it most of the time. I hate to mention the cliche term of the ‘West Ham Way’ but Bilic is one knows what that means even though those outside West Ham struggle with the term.

>>What are you thoughts on him?

Bilic was the outright fans choice of those who would come to us, maybe he lacks Premier League management experience but I think he will do well for us as long as he is given time. Our board are known to give managers time and do not make knee jerk reactions like many other clubs. I wish him well and hope he hits the ground running.

>>How would you rate your summer so far?

Well, we have had a nice little distraction with the Europa League, it was fun while it lasted but now it is time to knuckle down with the Premier League and it’s massive riches. The Europa League gave us competitive pre-season but we put our kids out last Thursday and paid the price. Maybe that is a good thing. Premier League progression is our number one priority and beating Arsenal on Sunday is the the first step.

>>Who are the players to watch out for?

Dimtri Payet will be the big one to watch with 17 assists and 7 goals in French Ligue 1 last year. There is a lot of pressure on him to do well. It could create an awesome partnership with the Hammers top goal scorer Diafra Sakho. It will be interesting how Ogbonna, Obiang and Lanzini set up to Premier League.

>>How will Slaven set up?

From a tactical standpoint, Bilic primarily employed a 4-2-3-1 set-up during his time with Beskitas but also adopted a 4-4-2 formation on occasion. We have seen him deploy both formations in our Europea league games. He likes to build teams with two dynamic defensive midfielders, one creative playmaker and wingers able to cut inside.He wants to turn West Ham into a energetic, collective and fast team, playing with short passes.

As for Sunday’s team Adrian will be goal no dispute, the back four will consist of Cresswell, Reid, Ogbonna and mots likley Joey O’Brien as Carl Jenkinson cannot play against Arsenal because of his loan conditions.

The two defensive Midfielders will be most likely Kouyate and Noble with the creative playmaker guaranteed to be Payet. That leaves the likes of Jarvis and Zarate (Lanzini played on Thursday so is unlikely to feature) as the wingers with Sakho up front as the lone striker.

>>What are your hopes for the season?

A top 10 finish would be great for Bilic in his first season back at West Ham, a top eight finish is probably a step too far this season in reality but we can all hope. Anything better than last season’s 12th is an improvement which I take, anything worst than 12th will be a major disappointment and feel like we are going backwards. Relegation dog fight is unthinkable.

>>Are you excited about the big move next year?

Yes, I visited the Olympic Stadium the other weekend to watch the Athletics and it is an amazing stadium and still has that WOW factor. We have recruited many of the senior management team at Arsenal that helped with the move from Highbury to the Emirates to help us with our move. Senior figures include Angus Kinnear, Arsenal’s former marketing director who is now West Ham’s managing director and Felicity Croft who was Arsenal’s partnership and development director but is now the commercial director at West Ham. Some Hammers fans jokingly call this the Arsenalification of West Ham. Vice Chairman Karren Brady is a self confessed Arsenal fan you know. Just saying 😉

Now, that’s a great dump of Hammers insight, I’m just sad Jenks isn’t at the heart of their strategy this season.

I think Arsenal will set up to destroy today. I’m kind of thinking Theo will be left up top. I reckon the starting 11 will be very similar to the community shield line up.

Hopefully we’ll score and early goal and take advantage of a team struggling for form an cohesion.

This game is big because it sets the tone for the season. Win big here and we’ll make August a sweet month.

Today is also major because my family (me) have emotionally blackmailed my dissident father to join the game for the first time in about 6 years (he isn’t a fan of Arsene (he REALLY dislikes Arsene)). I love my dad, but no one is as badly behaved as he is. The cousins think it’ll be fine. All I can compare this scenario to is offering Tony Soprano a line of coke at a horse killer dinner party. It’ll be crazy send off. 

… so if you see me, don’t say hi. Unless you really dislike the manager.

Oh sorry, just for context, the blackmail has succeeded because I’m moving away to NYC. And you know what that means? We’ll compete for major honours because I’m a foreign fan this year. What a joke.

I CAN NO LONGER DISCRIMINATE AGAINST OTHER FANS.

So sad.

Jokes aside, have a bloody amazing day!

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  1. tunnygriffboy

    Qna

    Please don’t patronise me. Thrre is no need

    Do you not think we realise we come across monsters in most games ? Do you think I don’t watch the games ? It appeared to mee that West Ham had a lot of big quick players, more than the majority of teams in the league

    It wouldn’t surprise me if they have good coach and some good pacy players. However until the goal they didn’t really threaten. Second half of last season we defende corners and free kicks well. Yesterday Kos got in a bad position and Cech made a bad decision. Second goal once again down to Ox losing the ball in a dangerous area ( it’s a habit he has to eradicate ) and I feel that Cech was unsighted by Kos

    Next week we face similar opponents. I hope we don’t defend as poorly and our passing is better. On paper it’s a tough game, it always is at Palace and they will sense blood. However w7n there and beat lpool and we’re on track. Lose and we’re out of the race by September

    My hope for this season was to be a lot closer to the title winners. I’m not one who said we’d win the league. Over here the papers, pundits have all given us the thumbs up to win the league. I’m sure it’s because they’ll love laying into us if we don’t.

  2. Emiratesstroller

    tunnygriffboy

    I agree with analysis that we lacked width. Cazorla should have played centrally alongside Coquelin and not left wing.

    Oxlade-Chamberlain needs to be more disciplined and keep to his station and
    not move into congested centre.

    Sanchez return to fitness and hopefully some form will improve our attacking
    formation, but clearly we need to solve the striker position if we are playing
    4-1-4-1 formation. Giroud is not mobile or clinical enough to play up front on
    his own. Personally I am not a fan of Walcott as I expressed before he was given new contract. He is too lightweight for my liking.

    qna

    West Ham did put out a physically strong side, but the real point I was making
    is that they played very similar game to Swansea at end of last season. They
    were disciplined in defence, counterattacked and were dangerous when they
    did so and beat us in the air both defensively and offensively.

    My main criticism of yesterday’s performance is Wenger’s tactical naivety. He
    seems to think that Arsenal should play their tactical game and not deviate to
    conditions in front of them.

    I made point that we have FAILED TO WIN or SCORE A GOAL in four of last five HOME GAMES in EPL and that has to be a worry.

  3. tunnygriffboy

    Qna

    I’m still optimistic. I don’t believe there’s many bankable games inbthe league. With all the money sloshing around the likes ofcWest Ham, Southampton, Swansea, Stoke Newcastle have been able to recruit some good players.

    First game of the season is always tough to predict. Palace away is a bad game to play after losing. Intimidating and they will be super up for it.

    I’m optimistic that we’ll do better in the league this season. Always thought we not ready yet unless we recruited. I am expecting us to be nearer the top, points wise than last season and be in the race for longer. It’ll be a harder league than ever for all teams this season

  4. tunnygriffboy

    Emirates

    Yeah, width is a problem. Miss Bellerin. Tbh if Debuchy is playing it may be worth playing Gibbs. They were big yesterday, I suppose Tomkins playing at RB increased that. He was booked in the first half, why didn’t we put some one there to run at him ? Last season i feltvSunderland and Swansea kept their clean sheet with a fair bit of luck and good goalkeeping but yesterday that was not the case. They were good for their win.

    Santi has to play in the middle. Why we’ve changed I don”t know. We didn’t play well but we gifted them two goals. Have to be on our mettle next week.

    I really hope he picks up another midfielder but afrad we’re going with what we’ve got.

  5. mysticleaves

    “Also coq is not the be all CDM that we need ,what was he doing running down the left and spraying 30 /40 mtr balls all over the pitch . Absolutely inexcusable that we passed on schneiderlin .”

    lol
    I thought you guys wanted the coq to combine his role with spraying Hollywood passes and driving forward more often? why complain again when he does it, even well?

  6. mysticleaves

    “but on the evidenceof yesterday’s performance neither Giroud nor Walcott are good enough tolead an attack on their own. Giroud in particular had a poor game.”

    ES
    your argument about our strikers is a little unsighted considering how good westham defence was yesterday. Giroud wasn’t exactly poor nor Walcott.

    chelsea’s strikers Costa and Falcao played same as Giroud yesterday, would you say based on that evidence they can’t lead the line for Chelsea? what of Rooney? don’t even get me started on Christian “better than Giroud” benteke.

    if you failed to see how poor the strikers of the top teams were yesterday, say nothing about it, then concludes about Arsenal’s strike force based on yesterday, that’s a bit desperate. imo

  7. tunnygriffboy

    Mystic

    Ha ha. I was just going to comment on Schneiderlin.

    The more I think about it the more I’m fed up we didn’t get Schneiderlin. I like Coquelin and I think he’ll improve considerably. However him and Ramsey together doesn’t work. Heaps of enrrgy but all frantic and we misplace passes too often. We need the calmness and ball playing ability ther. It’s no surprise that Ramsey best form came when he played with Arteta. Sadly Arteta can’t cut it anymore. Schneiderlin would have been that man

    Coquelin and Santi. Ramsey and Schneiderlin. Marriages made in heaven..

  8. TitsMcGee

    Bob, The answer is a team with a deluded manager and fanbase.”

    It’s amazing how “sheepish” the average Arsenal fan is.

    It’s also amazing how after 10 years on no EPL crown Wenger still has no urgency in addressing needs. He’s still out there giving “his guys” a run out of what can only be just misplaced loyalty at this point.

  9. tunnygriffboy

    Leeds

    I’m more in favour of Wenger than you but would never deride you as being a supporter of another club just because you have a difference of opinion with me. I often agree with somethings you say. However you hve valid arguments and they are based on facts. What winds some people up is when things are said that are only liberal with the truth and sometimes have no substance what so ever.

    However on the other hand people who like Wenger, who like you make valid points about the team all be it from a different point of view are more than likely to be ridiculed on here and called an AKB, deluded , out of touch with reality.

    There are extremes on both sides of the argument and objectivity goes out of the window with both of them.

    Anyway, f.ck off you Spurs c.nt 🙂 🙂 🙂

  10. peanuts&monkeys

    Arsenal has long abandoned that style of wing-play where a CM passes thru and dissects the opposition defenders to make the ball reach the right/left wing back, who in turn crosses in the 6-yard box for CFs to shoot in/head-in. Thats the quintessential way football goals are scored. WengerSoB was in a trip to change that. His experiments will fail, yet he will get richer by 10 million. and, he will keep breaking a million Arsenal fans’ hearts.

  11. kwik fit

    Not one player can be lambasted to the exclusion of another. Collectively we were weak and only Le Boss should shoulder le blame.

  12. peanuts&monkeys

    200 million in bank. Yet, why didnt Arsenal get Schneiderlin?
    Because Arsene Motherfucking Wenger was on a trip to prove the world wrong. If thats not the reason, then what is?

  13. goona

    @Kwik….spot on all round shambles….Wenger to blame, but where on the pitch, when things aren’t going our way is the leader out there? We don’t have a single player that leads by example, rolls their sleeves up and gets stuck in! Far to many lightweight BUDGET buy “luxury” players in the squad! If we play like that next Sunday Palace will stuff us!

  14. Emiratesstroller

    mysticleaves

    Look I am not one of the critics of Giroud if you look at my posts, but it has been obvious in several home games at end of last season and against West Ham that he does not play effectively if he is essentially the only outlet against a packed defence.

    tunnygriffboy

    Yes we should have bought Schneiderlein if for no other reason that we had
    lined him up as a recruit and there was no reason to reverse that decision.

    It is a classic case of Wenger dithering and changing his mind.

    Actually Coquelin played well in first half of yesterday’s game apart from a
    couple of poor passes. What he offers is excellent recovery and the ability to
    react to what other players in our team fail to do defensively.

    I am far less concerned about his more limited technical skill, because we do
    not need 11 playmakers in our team. We need players who do their job well.

    Nevertheless there are occasions when a Schneiderlein in the team whether
    playing as DMF or CMF would have been useful, because he is a “midfield general”.

  15. Leedsgunner

    Thanks tunny…

    I didn’t have anyone in particular in mind with my comment by the way.

    I try to be civil, fair and call it as I see it, like you do.

    What wound me up last night was the same mental fragility came back.

    We were given a gift by Chelsea when they dropped 2 points versus Swansea — all we needed to do was be disciplined, mature and be professional about it and get the job done… and we couldn’t do it. All we needed to do was get three points…

    *facepalm*

    When the pressure is off we perform well — when we face even a little bit of pressure in the league or the champion’s league we seem to fold ever so easily. We won’t be given another opportunity so easily… our big game players needed to perform and drag us out a point — and they didn’t.

    Although Cech will attract criticism, the whole team was poor. The manager was naive in playing into West Ham’s tactics.

    We were well rested, in good form and full of confidence — we really should have won yesterday.

  16. WengersSweeties

    Pedro had to rip into Wenger today.

    No one else can take the blame for that yesterday.

    The set up was all wrong and he completely fuck ed it!!

    Why he changed a winning set up was beyond me?

    Why he started with Giroud instead of Walcott was unbelievable.

    Why he had Cazorla on the left?

    Why he went for Debuchy instead?

    And Ramsey is just awful.

    Anyone who suggests that this was just 1 game is wrong. Ever since the FA CUP Arsenal players and the manager have been banging on how important it is to get off to a good start. This will have a massive impact on the players.

    We are shit. It’s a new season but the same problems. We will probably make top 4 but nothing from there.

    I don’t know if I can stomach another season of this lunatic.

    Any hopes that Gazidis had wrestled power back from Wenger where dashed yesterday in spectacular fashion.

    Get him OUT!!!!!!

  17. Wallace

    WOBs getting off to a flyer yesterday.

    missed the game so can’t really comment. did he go with Cazorla on the left again and Coq/Ramsey in the middle?

  18. Rosicky@Arsenal

    so the trolls are back after a single bad performance.
    wonder why they support Arsenal if they don’t get behind them.
    Arsenal have performed consistently for 20 years in a row 3 League titles 6 FA cups 20 years of CL football. Far better record than most of the clubs in Europe.
    People here were fussing about Wenger not doing tactics, cudnt beat big teams,never beaten Mourinhio etc. All have been answered now and taken care of. Team showed good progress since 2 seasons.

    One bad match is never a reflection of the whole season. Remember we lost to Villa 2 years before at home and then went 6 months top of the league.

  19. tunnygriffboy

    Leeds

    Agree with all of that. Upset with the goals because the mistakes but I hope that’san abberation.

    I’m more worried by the lack of width and motd showed that clearly last night. I’m concerned about our inability to break teams down. While I think Swansea and Sunderland rode their luck, Chelsea and West Ham looked relatively comfortable. We made a mistake v Swansea and lost. Made two yesterday, other than that West Ham created little. We so need to score the first goal to make a team play. Make a mistake defensively and we’re toast. To be fair it was a fantastic delivery from the free kick but it’s the third time in about his lsst 10/12 games that Ox has given the ball away needlessly in dangerous situations that have led to goals. Monaco, Everton and yesterday. He needs a boot up the arse but who will give it to him ?

    Why was there no width ? Where was the instruction ?
    Why didn’t Ox come and have a run at Tomkins who was a CB playing RB and had been booked ?
    Why was Santi on the left ?

  20. Leedsgunner

    “The players were maybe too nervous and put too much pressure on themselves. Today we have been hurt mentally and it is a good opportunity to respond.”

    LOL. Too much pressure? It’s the first game of the season at home, against West Ham… lest we forget versus a brand new manager who was part-taking in his first EPL game. If anyone was facing pressure it was Bilic not Wenger.

    The truth is the players didn’t put enough pressure on themselves. They became complacent, mentally went on holiday and were exposed. They believed the hype of being title challengers rather than putting the work in to make it a reality. No doubt they will be saying, “We need to learn from our mistakes….”

    Here’s an idea — why not make the mistakes in the first place?

    A few days ago Roy Keane mocked our lads as not up to winning the title mentally… as they were too interested in selfies and external appearances. With the game yesterday we had the best chance to make Keane choke on his words… however all we did was to give him legitimacy.

    Why did we do that? What an embarrassment.

  21. TitsMcGee

    Arsenal have performed consistently for 20 years in a row 3 League titles 6 FA cups 20 years of CL football. Far better record than most of the clubs in Europe.”

    and the last 10 years?

    So again we look to the past to justify another poor performance.

  22. TitsMcGee

    LOL. Too much pressure? It’s the first game of the season at home, against West Ham”

    There is always an excuse. The funny part is guys like Wallace etc lap it up.

  23. gambon

    Let me just quote our favourite AKB Willow Wilson

    “I make no apologies for upsetting you or anyone else for claiming that I believe Arsenal will win the League this season. They will.”

    Sure Willow, we look nailed on for the league.

  24. tunnygriffboy

    Wallace

    Yes Santi played left. He was in effective. Ramsey and Coquelin bags of energy but too many poor passes.

    Two big blunders for the goals but we huffed and puffed and but were inaccurate. Absolutely no width to stretch their back four who played 90% of thegame along the width of the penalty area. I was impressed with West Ham big all over the pitch, strong, physical and pace. They’ll be a handful this season.

    We are a team that really needs to score first to drag opponenents out or we have to provide width to pull their fullbacks out of position.

    We need another physical player as an option in midfield. Palace will be very similar next week. A tough game,

  25. mysticleaves

    “Wenger to blame, but where on the pitch, when things aren’t going our way is the leader out there? We don’t have a single player that leads by example, rolls their sleeves up and gets stuck in!”

    I have never understood this quote above. why don’t I hear of this “no leader ” after wins? why do people only see this when we lose? Who can explain this?

  26. Thank you and goodnight

    What makes me laugh is the comment ” I knew we’d concede from free kick as our defensive line was to high” ….wtf

    here’s an idea Mr Wenger, if you truly believed our defensive line for that free kick was wrong, how about you get off your bony fucking arse and come to the touchline and tell your defenders to drop deeper FFS. Woah betide you actually do something to justify that huge pay packet you twat.

  27. gambon

    Arsene Wenger:

    “We dont need any new players”

    “We conceded 13 goals in the last 19 games last season”

    “We showed title winning form from December”

    “I really believe in this group of players”

    “We dont need Benzema”

    “The answer is not to buy, its about cohesion”

    The Mighty Gambon:

    “Arsenal need to sign some quality players”

    “We have not signed a single outfield player, this is a disgrace”

    “We are not good enough to win the league”

    August 9th 2015

    Arsenal 0 – 2 West Ham

  28. mysticleaves

    tunny 6:51

    I also agree with your combinations in the centre. but imo individually, Coq’s performance yesterday, apart from one misplaced pass, was more of his old tenacious self than worse. nothing that would make me scream why didn’t we buy schneiderlin. coq is not our problem

  29. Thank you and goodnight

    @Rosicky

    “we went 6 months top of the league”

    I love the 6 month top of the league trophy. All the top teams were jealous we won that trophy that year. Bell end

  30. tunnygriffboy

    Jim

    The amount of abuse that is thrown about on here on a good day or even after a win would you come ? 🙂 🙂

    It’s the same when we were winning last season, people disappear and then come out after a defeat. Both ways ? 🙂 🙂

  31. Jim Lahey

    Its just the same shit every year isn’t?

    West ham had 4 shots on target, scored half of them, we had 8 scored none…. And it took us 22 attempts to hit the target 8 times. How many did West Ham need? 8. Half of their shots were on target and half of those went it.

  32. Emiratesstroller

    For me the concern is that Arsenal have now failed to win four of the last five home games and not managed a goal in any of them.

    That is not title winning form and you have to ask the question how are you going to change that situation if the manager resists bringing in new personnel.

    In our current formation we rely on Giroud being the sole striker and against
    teams like Swansea and West Ham that did not offer the options up front in
    absence of Sanchez. Effectively we played at home with just ONE goalscoring
    player.

    The question you had to ask on Sunday was if Giroud did not score who else in
    that team could you RELY on to deliver goals. Basically West Ham rather like
    Swansea and Sunderland needed only to CONCENTRATE on blocking out Giroud.

    Whilst Adrian had a very solid game yesterday I don’t recall one Arsenal shot
    which would have caused any competent goalkeeper a problem.

    My main criticism of yesterday’s poor performance is not so much the players
    as the set up of the team and Wenger’s failure to strengthen [upgrade] parts
    of our squad. It was as much a management as a player failure.

    If you take the West Ham game in isolation it was a bad day at office, but if
    you factor in how we played in games against Chelsea,Swansea and Sunderland at tail end of last season there is most definitely a potential problem to
    resolve and that is how to penetrate packed defences.

  33. Leedsgunner

    “Remember we lost to Villa 2 years before at home and then went 6 months top of the league.”

    Who cares?

    We still finished the season in fourth.

    Plus wasn’t that the January when Wenger brought in a crock to cover a crock? Kim Kallstrom was his name wasn’t it? Transfer magic that was.

    If we had bought a DM and a ST we would have won the league but rather we collapsed like a house of cards into fourth… 128 days at the head of the table isn’t going to change the fact we didn’t win the league. In any other club the manager would have got the sack. What did our club do? We gave him a new contract.

    Three years later, what’s really changed with respect to the league? We still need a DM and a ST to realistically challenge for the title. We are still brittle when we face any pressure in the league.

  34. Goondawg

    “A few days ago Roy Keane mocked our lads as not up to winning the title mentally… as they were too interested in selfies and external appearances. With the game yesterday we had the best chance to make Keane choke on his words… however all we did was to give him legitimacy.”

    Leeds you should check the pre-match Arsenal video they posted up, it’s truly embarrassing and painful to watch now. They are talking about banter and sex symbols for christ sakes..

  35. daz

    Missed the game stuck at work with a west ham fan to top it off, had it recorded but deleted it I can only hope this gives the players a reality check I didn’t like it when the players were coming out with this is going to be our year and all that, if they believe it great but keep your mouths shut and show it on the fucking pitch, I will wait to see how they respond over the next few weeks before totally losing my shit

  36. gambon

    Mystic

    Coquelin was in no way tenacious yesterday.

    2 interceptions sums up his whole game.

    Outplayed by a 16 year old. LOL

  37. Thank you and goodnight

    @Leeds

    Wash your mouth out son. The “we stayed top for 6 months ” trophy is a highly sought after silverware.

    Fuck me mate when you have blind deluded fans like this it genuinely is troubling to see where we go from here.

  38. Jim Lahey

    @Tunny – I mean, no one should be personally abused on here, win lose or draw, but you can’t preach from the gospel of Arsene all summer, then disappear when your messiah turns out to be a middle ages man named Vernon! Just like people who want him gone, can’t disappear when we are doing well and refuse to complement the club or Wenger.

  39. TitsMcGee

    Arsene Wenger:“We dont need any new players”“We conceded 13 goals in the last 19 games last season”“We showed title winning form from December”“I really believe in this group of players”“We dont need Benzema”“The answer is not to buy, its about cohesion”The Mighty Gambon:“Arsenal need to sign some quality players”“We have not signed a single outfield player, this is a disgrace”“We are not good enough to win the league”August 9th 2015Arsenal 0 – 2 West Ham”

    Wenger needs to realize that last year’s form means squat.

  40. Leedsgunner

    Give Wallace the credit he’s due. At least he shows up after a bad result… and takes the bad with the good unlike some of the others.

    Wallace, speaking personally, I have no issues with you and respect the views you have. I don’t agree but you’re entitled to hold them. 😉

  41. mysticleaves

    “Look I am not one of the critics of Giroud if you look at my posts, but it has been obvious in several home games at end of last season and against West Ham that he does not play effectively if he is essentially the only outlet against a packed defence.”

    yes, ES, normally you don’t make unguarded statements but saying “based on this evidence ” is a little desperate. it was one game.

    re your quote above, which strikers would do well under those circumstances? not Benzema, certainly not Costa or even lewy or Aguero. that’s why strikers don’t score every game.

    compare Swansea with westham yesterday, organised, not really packed the bus but Costa couldn’t do shit. same with kane, Benteke and Rooney. would you then conclude that “based on that evidence ” that they aren’t as good as we make them to be?

    we know Olly might not be good enough, even wenger knows when he said he might not score 20 league goals but will be close, but it’s not only about him. our forward players were off yesterday except maybe Chambo.

    we should be looking at how or what happened to the team, not what happened to Giroud .

  42. Highbury4ever

    Where is the man who was saying that Arsenal would win the title this season ??

    This quote from David Ginola in l’Equipe Magazine, about the financial evolution of the Premier League : “…people will eventually stop accepting millions paid to average players.”

    Not at Arsenal dear David, it’s a real tradition for us!! lol

  43. Emiratesstroller

    Most of the people who “abuse” other posters have an “oversized” inferiority complex and an inability to articulate in a debate when someone else disagrees with
    their argument.

    The classic example is Redtruth who is basically talking to himself in every post,
    because most other regular correspondents ignore him and he throws out his
    frustration in abuse.

  44. Dissenter

    gambon,
    “Coquelin was in no way tenacious yesterday.2 interceptions sums up his whole game.Outplayed by a 16 year old. LOL”

    Nope, you got that wrong.
    Payet gave Coquelin a football 101 lesson.
    It was Mesut Ozil who was in the back pocket of the 16 year old.

  45. Wallace

    Jim

    “So no Willow or Wallace about today?”

    7:29am

    wasn’t dodging the abuse, just real life got in the way yesterday.

  46. Leedsgunner

    Goondawg

    “Leeds you should check the pre-match Arsenal video they posted up, it’s truly embarrassing and painful to watch now. They are talking about banter and sex symbols for christ sakes..”

    Does that sound like a team like under “too much pressure” to you?

    To quote Wenger again…

    ““The players were maybe too nervous and put too much pressure on themselves. Today we have been hurt mentally and it is a good opportunity to respond.”

    Yeah right.

  47. Shaun Wilson

    Our needs regarding the defensive midfielder and striker are so glaringly obvious to everyone but Wenger. TV pundits and casual observers, even those who gravitate towards the old fossil, can see these needs. But still he refuses to even acknowledge the facts. His attitude goes beyond stubborn and wilful, straying into the criminal. He has also done this before. I think he is genuinely I’ll in some sort of narcissistic personality disordered way.

  48. Dusty Kart

    Arsene Wenger said every one tells me to buy players we have bought and still lost we need to focus on our own game.
    We have been out spent by the mighty Afc Bournemouth!! what a loser of a manager we have!!

  49. tunnygriffboy

    gambon

    Coquelin was ok yesterday. To be fair he didn’t have much to do. They didn’t really threaten hence the young lad, who was excellent by the way, had much more to do and was much busier. You have to be fair. Coquelin was not our problem

    Ramsey tried to kick the moon to give the free kick away. Kos lost his player and Cech decided to do a belly flop. Then Ox decides to pick up the ball, place it on a kicking tea saying to Zarate ‘ take a shot ‘

    At least Cech apologised, ditto Per.

  50. Wallace

    Leeds

    “Wallace, speaking personally, I have no issues with you and respect the views you have. I don’t agree but you’re entitled to hold them. ”

    cheers!

  51. Highbury4ever

    “Wenger: We’ll respond to ‘accident’ ”

    Of course.
    Always answering, but never predict.

    Arsene’s precious philosophy.

  52. mysticleaves

    gambonAugust 10, 2015 08:08:10MysticCoquelin was in no way tenacious yesterday.2 interceptions sums up his whole game.Outplayed by a 16 year old. LOL

    how do u defend this statement that a 16year old outplayed coq? eh Gambon?

  53. Wallace

    tunny

    guessing Wenger’s just trying to get all his best players on to the pitch, but baffled he’s again gone with Coq/Ramsey and shunted Cazorla out wide. i know a few on here have been calling for Coq/Ramsey, but i just don’t think we can control a game with those two in the centre. if he wants to play Ramsey centrally then he has to partner him with Arteta.

  54. Dissenter

    Have they found Ozil yet?
    There’s talk that Reese the 16 year kid, forgot to take him out of his back pocket before he turned his clothes over to mommy for laundry.

  55. Emiratesstroller

    mysticleves

    If you take our last 5 home games at end of last season + West Ham and you
    cannot win four of them and fail to score a goal I think that there is a problem.

    Don’t you think so?

    If you choose to play with Giroud up front and no other goalscoring threat in
    team you cannot be surprised that we were frankly ineffective.

    When a team packs their defence as all four teams did against us you need not
    only provide some width, but also a player in middle who can unlock a tight defence. Unfortunately we could not offer either option yesterday. Ox spent too much time in middle and hardly lifted a boot in second half when he was clearly tired.

    Bellerin was missing and Wenger chose to play Cazorla as a left wing albeit
    he spent most of his time in middle.

    The reality was that our team yesterday was unbalanced.

  56. Jim Lahey

    @Wallace –

    Jim LaheyAugust 10, 2015
    07:58:40
    Ah Wallace is here today

    Fair play, I might not share your outlook, but I do respect you coming on here after what happened yesterday and defending it.

  57. Dissenter

    Ramsey’s decision making is shit-poor. He’s athletic and full.ok f running, I’ll grant him that.
    He’s so lacking in discipline, that you have to wonder know if anyone tears into him after games because he’s repeating the same errors.
    …and he needs to curb that selfishness.

  58. Gladwyn

    We got bullied big time yesterday. Wenger kept shaking his head throughout the 1st half in the buildup to the 1st goal. He knew the team was struggling to find some rhythm but he sat on his arse. The only moment I saw him get up was to complain to he third degree about Noble wasting time.

  59. mysticleaves

    coquelin attempted 2 tackles yesterday and lost them both. when your DMF attempts only 2 tackles in the time he was on, that tells you that either the opposition avoided the central places or they didn’t do much. which is actually correct in both places.

    I repeat again, Coq is not our problem. Gambon I don’t know what you want from him but it’s not healthy.

  60. TitsMcGee

    Ramsey’s decision making is shit-poor. He’s athletic and full.ok f running, I’ll grant him that.
    He’s so lacking in discipline, that you have to wonder know if anyone tears into him after games because he’s repeating the same errors.
    …and he needs to curb that selfishness.”

    Other than two years ago when he was on a torrid run he’s been pretty average.

  61. Jim Lahey

    Love Alexis’ attitude, when everyone fucked off home after being humiliated by West Ham the guy is doing sprints up and down the pitch, a born winner.

    Reminds me of when Bergkamp first arrived, he would stay back once training was over to work on his technique while the rest of them piled into the pub no doubt.

  62. mysticleaves

    “The reality was that our team yesterday wasunbalanced.”

    this and all your point above in the same post I agree to. actually that’s what I wanted you to realise. that we did not lose because Giroud or Walcot aren’t good enough to lead attacks on their own against packed defences, rather we did not win because the team dynamics were wrong. from selection to attitude to mindset.

  63. Gladwyn

    The whole squad was piss poor yesterday. Ozil looked to have turned a corner but now it seems to be another one of those false dawns.

  64. mysticleaves

    “The whole squad was piss poor yesterday. Ozil looked to have turned a corner but now it seems to be another one of those false dawns.”

    how? ozil still completed 88%of his passes, created 4 chances and am sure had more than 3 completed dribbles. this against a westham that their defensive midfielder made 3 tackles and 3 interceptions. he wasn’t really poor, or in Oxford’s pocket or something. just wasn’t decisive.

  65. Emiratesstroller

    mysticleaves

    We agree.

    The current formation of 4-1-4-1 may work in away games where opposition are less likely to pack players behind ball, but it does not in my view work at home.

    We need to be playing more goalscoring options there and in my view formation needs to change.

    When a team fails to score a SINGLE GOAL in four out of five games at HOME
    with the personnel we are supposed to have you know that there is something
    wrong.

    It is about formation and tactics as well as clinical finishing. Frankly I felt that
    our team ran out of ideas and played like “headless chickens”.

  66. Highbury4ever

    “The whole squad was piss poor yesterday.”

    Just a bunch of overpayed and overprotected kids who don’t realize how lucky they are, nothing more.
    Add to that a pathetic manager…