Arsenal: Two sign up!

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SHUT UP WE HAVE NEWS.

Cazorla AND Theo have signed new deals.

That’s bloody marvellous on toast.

I know Theo probably landed a payrise. I know people probably think that’s a cheek. I don’t. I rate him. He is electric, he’s a great finisher and he adds directness to our front line. He’s also part of the furniture these days… we couldn’t bin him off. Glad he’s gonna stay with us through his prime years.

But Theo, know this, when you hit 30, it’s game over.

Santi! I love this little guy. I was expecting him to move on this summer and make way for Aaron Ramsey. It didn’t happen. I’d imagine he’ll move on next  year. His legs won’t be able to continue to hack the pace at which they’re being made to work at. But he’s a great player. Exciting, smart and an incredibly hard worker!

Good news. Positive vibes flowing through the camp.

Just a shame we don’t have a bit more muscle through the middle and a real shame Karim Benzema looks like a pipe dream.

Right,  I don’t have much for you today. I’ll give you a big dollop of Arsenal tomorrow.

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  1. Marko

    You have absolutely zero understanding of what youre babbling on about.We are paying £370k out for a return of 23 PL goals

    Are we too assume they’ll do worse or better this season? Also you mentioned we pay 370 for our three strikers and there modest return and still haven’t mentioned City’s return on Aguero, Bony , Dzeko and Jovetic. I agree we need another striker and an improvement on who we got but you literally imply they’re the biggest piles of shites and the biggest wastes of money ever. Guarantee you the money CIty paid all their strikers last season was worse. We are basing everything on just last season right

  2. Marko

    redtruthJuly 31, 2015    12:27:30
    Isolate the season and don’t let the FA Cup fool you in to believing Arsenal are a good team.

    What do you honestly get out of supporting this team that are so shite in your eyes? Honestly why do it to yourself

  3. Klauspoppe

    To start the season, I feel Debuchy should be the starter with Ox. I think he offers greater defensive shape and organization compared to Bellerin.

    He’ll most likely lack the pace from Newcastle after his injury but he’s definitely more experienced and it shows in his movements.

    Debuchy Mertesacker Kos Monreal
    Is an extremely stable and strong backline. Tbh I see replacing Kos easier than Mertesacker. I don’t think we’ve had a defensive leader to organise our line since Campbell.

    Pacy centrebacks are all good but there’s a reason slow lumbering centrebacks still exist and find success. Their intelligence on the ability to read plays and organise a backline is invaluable.

  4. Marko

    Also depending on what he was on beforeI wouldn’t of gone past 100,000 for Theo but it’s done. People going on like it’s the greatest travesty. Think about it like this he’d be on roughly the same or less as Jesus Navas at City and he’s better, probably less than Willian at Chelsea but he’s more prolific and probably as I dunno Young and Valencia at United

  5. Alfie

    “You have absolutely zero understanding of what youre babbling on about.We are paying £370k out for a return of 23 PL goals”

    Lets not let emotion distort facts – We have never paid that much for those three players – they have only just singed this players on said amount of money so there is nothing to compare to.

    Walcott was injured last season and it was Welbecks first season.

    Who knows how it will pan out but lets judge on this season first.

  6. Willow Wilson

    Great news about Theo and Santi. Two great players who now increase the stability at the club. Brilliant news.

    Good to see us paying the wages to keep players.

    Lets hope we can keep Theo fit, he not only has the potential to be a game changer but provides us with options.

  7. naijagunner

    We also get to see Debuchy this season. Bellerin made me forget all about him but he is an experienced head to have around .

    @ Klauss

    I agree re Metersacker. I don’t think Kos and Gabriel will balance each other out, i smell last ditch tackles and red cards flying around .

  8. Romford Ozil Pele

    “I agree re Metersacker. I don’t think Kos and Gabriel will balance each other out, i smell last ditch tackles and red cards flying around .”

    I do agree that Kos-Per is a great partnership and will only be strengthened with Cech’s arrival. That said, this notion that two ball-playing CBs can’t be paired together is flawed IMO. Numerous examples of it happening at other clubs. At the very least you’d need to give it a chance to work properly. In games where we’re looking to condense the play as much as possible it’s a partnership I’d plump for. They’ve only started two games together and have kept clean sheets in both so let’s give it a chance before writing it off.

  9. Swissguns

    Ozil shooting more would be nice, but he’s not one to go for a low percentage shot when he can find a pass instead.
    I want my forwards greedy, and my 10 serving it up on a plate.

  10. Romford Ozil Pele

    Anyone see that rabona Kos did in open training the other day? I knew he had good control but didn’t know he was actually that skillful. One of Wenger’s best guys in the last decade IMO.

  11. Swissguns

    Have to agree with you ROP.
    While I believe there has to be a dominant CB of the pair, the key is communication I think.
    Kos / Gabriel may not work, true, but it won’t be because they’re to similar in style.

  12. Romford Ozil Pele

    Swiss, I like your stuff, post some more! Spot on about Özil and about this CB partnership. It’s more to do with communication rather than style. If there’s an established discussion on who’s doing what, it should work.

    Gabriel is a monster in the air btw.

  13. Swissguns

    Yeah it’s weird he’s better than per really.
    It’s hard to find time to post, though I read the blog daily. It’s a pleasure to have you back I must say.

  14. Emiratesstroller

    One of the worst features of many posters when they write about who Arsenal should buy and in particular strikers who are in short supply is that they assume that every player today has a price.

    Well that is certainly not the case at the moment when you are discussing strikers. Why on earth would RM sell Benzema or Bayern sell Lewandowski? Who of an equivalent or better standard are currently available for them to buy as replacements?

    Most of the other strikers of similar quality or better such as Aguero and Cavani are also with strong clubs or as is case with Napoli have written
    into contract for Higuain a ridiculous buy out clause of £64 million[almost 100 million euros]

    Once you move out of this category of striker you are discussing second tier
    players such as Benteke, Dzeko or Mandzukic who are frankly no better than
    what we have got or players such as Van Persie or Llorente who are now over
    30 and Arsenal are not remotely interested in.

    The younger generation of forwards like Dybala,Kane and Lacazette have had
    one good year and are unproven. All these players would cost £30 million, but
    I am doubtful that clubs like Real or Bayern would be interested in buying
    these players as replacement for Benzema or Lewandowski.

    So I suspect as Pedro has now indicated Arsenal have probably made a decision that they are unlikely to buy a striker who is an UPGRADE on Giroud, Walcott or even Welbeck in this transfer window.

    For this reason as I have suggested many times before we should focus on
    strengthening other positions in the team where there is a genuine need for
    strengthening our resources and better opportunities to do it.

    I we want to spend mega bucks in transfer window I would perhaps attempt still to buy Reus who can play left or right wing as well as attacking midfield. He is better on the left wing than the right, but then Sanchez can play equally well on wings or as a second striker.

    Also I still believe that Arsenal should buy a second DMF to replace Arteta or
    Flamini. If he goes for a proven player he will need probably to spend £20-25
    million.

    However, at the back of my mind I know that Wenger is always “unpredictable” in transfer market and often the deals which he makes are completely unexpected. Even the media are frankly clueless because Arsenal have a
    tradition for keeping their business close to their chests.

    That was certainly the case with Ozil, Sanchez and even Welbeck.

  15. VP

    ”Anyone see that rabona Kos did in open training the other day? I knew he had good control but didn’t know he was actually that skillful. One of Wenger’s best guys in the last decade IMO”

    I agree. He is one of Wengers best signings of the decade.

    Lol..rabon. Making Per look bad huh. But then again any four year old who can turn on the spot without falling over could make Per look bad.

  16. Romford Ozil Pele

    Yeah Swiss it’s more sporadic for me these days because of my new job so just as and when really. Looking forward to going to games as it’ll be my release from work. Literally am footie obsessed, can’t wait for the season to start though I’m sure I’ll be cursing the manager and team at some point!

  17. Klauspoppe

    I always felt the defense line needs a leader to control the line that the rest will follow the lead to keep inline.

    With us playing to activate offside traps frequently, someone capable of reading plays to shift the line accordingly is a must.

    With Mertesacker’s signing felt that was one aspect where Arsenal found the foundation for defensive stability over the last three seasons.

    Not sure Kos is capable in this aspect. Kos’s strength is to mark opponents out of the game.

  18. Romford Ozil Pele

    Leeds, good to hear from you, hope you’re well. Like I said to Swiss, it’s more fleeting visits these days, most of my time is taken up but this blog is addictive so always of to see what’s being spoken about when there’s not a meltdown ensuing!

  19. Klauspoppe

    Gabriel is one of the best buys we had.

    Hopefully he develops into a Thiago Silva potentially.

    Worried Chambers will have limited game time. Unsure why the club will block a loan move to Southampton for him. Would have progressed a lot under Koeman.

  20. Uwot?

    Come on arsene,pull a rabbit out of the hat!you know you want to…just think of ” Maureen’s face”.incentive enough for anyone!

  21. Willow Wilson

    Swissguns
    “While I believe there has to be a dominant CB of the pair, the key is communication I think. Kos / Gabriel may not work, true, but it won’t be because they’re to similar in style.”

    This.

    Centre backs have to work as a pair and develop an understanding. This is why they don’t usually get rotated, its a key pairing. This has always been the case. It has nothing to do about whether or not they both are ballers. In fact, if they are ballers that is an added benefit!

    However, these partnerships take time to develop and that will be part of the reason while Gabriel did not get more game time. He needs to work with Kos in training, doing their drills. Potentially, could be a great pairing and neither of them lacks pace.

  22. Marko

    Klaus it’s more to do with not taking a chance in case Mertesacker or Koscielny with his tendons gets an injury. I personally feel 4 is enough and honestly for the first time in years we’re really stocked in defence with some good balance in there and Chambers will get game time so it shouldn’t be a problem. Also agree about Gabriel I’d be absolutely amazed if before the end of the season he’s not first choice along with Koscielny. He’s waiting to explode

  23. carts

    RP

    yeah I’ll be there too. Pal’s lady hooked up a couple ticket. Should be interesting affair. Jose ain’t going to want to lose this one I don’t think

  24. Klauspoppe

    Marko

    Better safe than sorry I suppose.

    It’s just I see Chambers with so much potential. Great defender for England.

    With Gabriel and Kos we even might see Wilshere in a deeper role. Gabriel and Kos will be aggressive in retrieving the ball early and making interceptions. Wilshere may position closer to the backline to receive the ball and make the linking passes.

    Obviously this theory if it does occur would require some time to mold.

  25. Leedsgunner

    I don’t know the U21s and the Reserves as well as I should, apart from Hayden are there any other youngsters near being ready for the first team as a CB? It would be great to bring some defenders through.

  26. Willow Wilson

    Leeds

    In the academy Stefan O’Connor is highly rated and the coaches speak well of him. He is a centre back, looks very composed.

    As we have mentioned on here, very few of the academy players ever make it to the elite game, it really is a difficult ask. Always great for fans though seeing players come into the first team squad.

  27. Willow Wilson

    Leeds, sorry don’t forget Tafari Moore the right back for the U21’s who covered for Bellerin. He was in the U17 England team that won the Euros. Quick lad. These all have some way to go of course.

  28. Silverhawk

    Is there no up coming LB in the reserves. Being dying to see one come through so we can finally get rid of Gibbs.

  29. jwl

    Im glad santi is staying, have him in my fantasy football team, he was awesome last season. Also lesson to not listen to rumours, Santi was supposedly leaving this summer to go back to Spain and now he staying for two more years. I don’t pay attention to rumours, especially Arsenal, our execs keep their cards close to chest and outsiders have no idea what we doing.

  30. Barking Arsene

    Both Kos & Gabriel seem to have the ability to intercept effectively

    They both have pace as well so I can’t see why they couldn’t work together – it’s just a case of using the correct system to suit their skill sets.

    Along with Bellerin that’s a very quick back line which would allow us to press higher up the pitch.

    Could well work. I’d like to see it.

  31. tunnygriffboy

    Piers Morgan is an absolute COCK

    He doesn’t know or understand football yet he is seen as some sort of spokesperson for our supporters. He is on the radio at the moment spouting absolute rubbish. It’s embarrassing. So much incorrect wrong information coming out as fact. People believe it. He doesn’t know what position players play, who is available and and what is going on behind the scenes at the club

    If he camme on here he would be ripped to pieces with the garbage he talks.

  32. Nasri's Mouth

    Barking Arsene: They both have pace as well so I can’t see why they couldn’t work together

    Communication and organisation would be the issue I think. Kos isn’t the best communicator by any means, and I haven’t seen much talking and finger pointing from Gabriel either.

    That’s not to say it couldn’t work, and it might be that Kos leaves all of that to Per when he’s on the pitch but they’d need to sort something

  33. BacaryisGone

    The Walcott extension is a no-brainer. Make no mistake about what happens if he underperforms. We’ll ship him off for an excellent fee and that just wouldn’t have been possible if he ran his contract down.

    It’s costing us 2 million more a year than we want, but that’s a small amount when you look at how his value was being devalued every week his contract was nearing an end.

  34. Nasri's Mouth

    tunnygriffboy: Piers Morgan is an absolute COCK

    Ha! I was in the car listening to Talk Sport, and the ‘guest’ starts talking cricket.

    I was thinking ‘Who is this absolute twat?’ and then when they moved on to football it turned out to be Morgan. I haven’t heard him for ages, but it’s good to see that he hasn’t changed and he’s still a bellend

  35. Nasri's Mouth

    Leedsgunner: I don’t know the U21s and the Reserves as well as I should, apart from Hayden are there any other youngsters near being ready for the first team as a CB?

    None that are good enough, and Hayden might end up a DM rather than a CB, and I suspect he wont be good enough for us either

  36. BacaryisGone

    This has to be the first time in Arsenal’s history when goalkeepers aside, we’ve returned all of the Top 20 appearing players last season.

    At the same time, it’s also a concern (goalkeepers aside) that it might be the first time in Arsenal’s history that we haven’t added a single player expected to meaningfully contribute next season.

  37. Hunter

    Very pleased to see walnut and Santiago sign up for a few more years and my feeling is that will be it,they are our two new signings this transfer window.I honestly think that Wengeri will sign no-one else this time around no matter what pressure is placed on him by the fans and media.He will go with what he’s got and probably finish in the top four again and win the FA Cup.That is where his ambition lies I am afraid.He won’t retire and will still be at the Emirates well into his seventies!The owner loves him as do the board and why not he’s making them millions by just doing enough.He will always have the last word and I can’t help feeling that even if he moved ‘Upstairs’ and a new manager brought in he would still be in complete control.He may pull a rabbit out of the bags but the odds on that are heavily against,in fact I wonder what the odds would be at a bookies on him signing no-one for this or the January windows?If I were a sponsor I would be truly worried about his lack of movement in the market.Surely a marquee signing would be good for them too?Anyway let’s all settle down and support who we have got!

  38. useroz

    In games we got overrun in the MFlast season we(most) blamed (he lack of height/ muscles/ grit ettc. No change so far and we still have the midgets.

    Seriously walcott isn’t worth the reported 140k pw due to his injuries etc. If he’d stay fit and plays 40+ games and scores 15+ that’s a different story. Still want a top striker.

  39. gambon

    I agree with what Bacary said. To some extent we were backed into a corner

    Paying Theo 140k is better than him not signing, but we keep letting him play us during contract negotiations.

    He isn’t even in our fist XI and not should he be.

    Look at our 4 strikers.

    500k per week for Theo, Welbeck, Giroud and Sanchez.

    From that point of view it’s pretty good.

    However the 2 English guys aren’t worth it.

    If we play all season with Giroud and Sanchez we finish top 4, if we play all season with Theo and Welbeck…..no chance.

    That’s the problem.

    Everyone is too close on wages.

    The old socialist thing is back.

  40. Johnty79

    No disrespect to Carzola but another car crash of a decision to play him centre mid ahead of Ramsay. Two years ago with Ramsay in centre mid we looked like challenging for the league in the only time in the last 10 years. Ramsay got injured and we fell apart. Carzorla played well last year but has served his purpose at 30. All this is going to do is piss Ramsay off who will leave with wenger getting his way of having wilshere in centre mid but we all know physically wilshere won’t reach 30 as a top flight player.

    With our strongest team we gave a chance this year but wenger doesn’t know what that is.

  41. Nasri's Mouth

    useroz: In games we got overrun in the MFlast season we(most) blamed (he lack of height/ muscles/ grit ettc.

    As Coq is about 5’8″, it turned out the height thing wasn’t so important after all

  42. Marko

    redtruthJuly 31, 2015    12:27:30
    Isolate the season and don’t let the FA Cup fool you in to believing Arsenal are a good team.

    What do you honestly get out of supporting this team that are so shite in your eyes? Honestly why do it to yourself

    You never answered me earlier Red.

  43. Nasri's Mouth

    Johnty79: No disrespect to Carzola but another car crash of a decision to play him centre mid ahead of Ramsay

    Cazorla was one of our best players last season

  44. Nasri's Mouth

    gambon: 500k per week for Theo, Welbeck, Giroud and Sanchez. From that point of view it’s pretty good.

    So you want to pay Giroud and Alexis more and Walcott and Welbeck equivalently less ?

  45. Johnty79

    Your Comment Hereour striker wages

    Giroud 130k
    Walcott 130k
    Welbeck 100k( who I believe wenger never wanted to sign)
    Sanchez (130k, might think he deserves more )

    Collectively will these four get 60 goals in the league I doubt it.

  46. Marko

    That’s the problem.Everyone is too close on wages.The old socialist thing is back.

    Please explain to me this gambon cause honestly it’s not making sense. I realise you got to just add it as part of the agenda and all that but you have to see its the current market that’s dictating these wages. I mean honestly let’s rip the manager a new one for a lot of things but he can’t be blamed for English players being overpriced and overpaid. As in he can’t be blamed for signing Welbeck on 60-70,000 and giving him a slight bump. He can’t be blamed if Walcott sees Sterling and others get huge amounts and demands more with a year left on his deal.

  47. Nasri's Mouth

    Stefan Jovetic: “Man City is a graveyard for players. It’s not a family. During my injuries nobody came to see me.”

    Clearly he didn’t get a birthday cake either…

  48. Nasri's Mouth

    @Johnty79

    No signs he’s slowing down though. It wouldn’t surprise me with his new deal that Wenger wants to keep him for 2/3 years

  49. naijagunner

    Cazorla cannot play every game. Am sure they will interchange as the season progresses.

    @Nasri ‘s mouth

    Clearly man City aren’t doing much to keep players happy bar paying the big bucks . although that should be enough though, it’s not a nursery .

  50. Emiratesstroller

    Marko

    There is absolutely no point in having a discussion with RT.

    Whilst there are others on the board with whom I disagree fundamentally and
    are too abusive when others don’t agree with their point of view you can have at least some form of dialogue.

    I believe that this individual has been banned when he posted under different
    guises, but just comes back under a different name. The best option would have an “ignore button” so that when other posters recognise that he appears
    on the site they can delete automatically anything that he posts.

    In that way you don’t need to read his twaddle or even his call sign when it appears.

    Perhaps someone who knows Pedro on a personal basis can suggest it to him.

  51. Romford Ozil Pele

    Akpom full season long loan to Hull. Great move for him. Shoot them back up to the PL. 20 goals lad, show them what you’re made of. Think this will be a decisive loan for him. He’s only been out on a month loan at a time. You’d think he has to make a big impact here if he thinks he has a future at Arsenal. Come on lad, really want him to make it

  52. tunnygriffboy

    Rop

    Akpom will be going up there with his mate Hayden. I to hopethe both of them do well. Will be interesting to follow their progress.

    Is another striker coming in ?

  53. karim

    Tunny

    I’m fine, cheers, hope you’re having a good evening too !

    Let’s say Gambon lacks imagination even if I kind of asked for it lol.

    As for Highbury4ever, he’s doing it on a daily basis anyway….

    I used to be upset about it and even asked Pedro to ban him, which he kindly did.

    He’s just exposing his crass ignorance and prejudices , so I’m more like ” live and let live ” nowadays.

    So many good guys on here anyway, I’m not gonna cry about a few extremists, guess that’s logical given the international situation….

  54. Sam

    Wilshere not fast enough at tracking back how can anyone even consider him as DM? He doesn’t get up quickly If he’s fouled He sit on his backside to complain to the ref.
    Height doesn’t matter as long as you can Jump.
    Please buy a proper DM, there are still many available in the market

  55. Romford Ozil Pele

    Karim, very good move for him. It’s at a club which is one of the favourites to get instant promotion to the PL. He needed this type of move IMO. 46 games in the league so hopefully he can show his worth. I’m one of the only ones with faith!

    RE first team, I’m not sure. I think Wenger may now see Theo as more of a striker so Theo, Welbz and L’Oreal. A bit underwhelming but numbers are still there. Would love Big Benz of course but just don’t think it’s feasible

  56. karim

    ROP

    Cheers mate, I understand you guys would like to see a top player emerge from the academy, it’s only natural imo, so go Chuba !

    Yeah, Benzema sounds dead even though Kike Marin is still believing, according to his Twitter page.

    Hope he knows something we don’t, but I’m still excited about the new season anyway.

  57. Sam

    Walcott never scored 20 goals in a season, Sure!

    He played as a winger since we signed him, He can easily reach 25 goals when he starts up front.

  58. Marko

    Agree Rom could be and hopefully will be a great career making loan for Chuba. Hopefully he’ll light that league up, build up some confidence and skills sets and comes back a great prospect for us and England.

    Some ridiculous business going out of the club this summer. Hopefully a couplemore outs and then some in’s before Sept

  59. Arseology

    Red – have to admit that once in a blue moon you make valid points – points that I agree with you on but your constant wummery (world class btw) makes you come across as being nuttier than a squirrel turd.
    I really feel sorry for the souls that argue with you…. they should take note of this George Carlin quote.
    “Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
    On a serious note, thank you for the laughs & entertainment value you provide.

  60. Sam

    I see it now, Chuba joined Hayden at Hull city
    Sorry dudes, you don’t build up skills playing in lower division. It’s in fact the opposite. Wenger will never send a French golden boy to a chitty club.

    Hmmm, Sanogo went to Ajax, will probably taste some CL football n Apkom to flipping Hull. Says it all!

  61. izzo

    Well what i feared has happened Akpom going the way of Afobe. Oh well good luck to him but thats his arsenal career over before it even began. Wenger said he was going to keep him after the hattrick and now sends him to fucking Hull City!!!! If Wenger wanted to keep him he wouldve sent him on loan to one of the promoted clubs.

  62. Romford Ozil Pele

    Izzo, not really. He’s got a greater chance of starting there than at a Pl club. Remember Akpom hasn’t even scored a senior goal yet so people are actually taking a gamble on him. Afobe had to go down a league further. Akpom is at a very good club. It’s down to him.

  63. steve

    naijagunnerJuly 31, 2015 19:19:07
    Wow…great move for Akpom. I would have preferred he stayed in the top flight though .

    _____

    How is it a great move when he will be playing Championship football next season?

  64. Byo

    The conversation early this morning was about Walcott’s 140000/week package.
    And that is still the debate late in the day!

    The reality is no one here is an expert on footballers’ pay. They’ve never run a club.
    And the money does not even belong to them!
    And Sterling apparently earns 200,000/week- the club owners determine that’s what they’ll pay him.

  65. Leedsgunner

    So Hayden and Akpom will be at Hull huh? I hope they seize the day and prove themselves. Does anyone know whether we’ve inserted a buyback/first refusal for Akpom talking about AFC youth players.

  66. NewCoArsenal PLC

    Apologies for the delayed response Nasri’s Mouth.

    I wasn’t trying to be condescending or trying to teach any history lesson,
    when you said it was a ‘new tactic’ you didn’t make it clear that you meant for Arsenal.
    You cite 12/13 as being the time we dropped deeper and implemented the high-press. And yet just last year we were cruelly exposed by Man City, Liverpool and Chelsea. Earlier this year the same happened against Monaco at The Emirates.
    It isn’t a ‘new tactic’, it was there when we had the pivot of Vieira – Petit and Overmars with his pace out wide.
    A large part of it disappeared when Wenger tactically restructured the formation around Fabregas.
    We went from being a fast dangerous counter-attacking beast to becoming weak, leaderless and lost, allowing the big clubs to tickle our bellies while destroying us on the park.
    The Barcelona CL final in 2006 was the last we saw of the 4-4-2, since the move to The Emirates we’ve been a hybrid of 4-5-1 and 4-3-3, which has been largely unsuccessful, mainly because we haven’t had a natural winger.

  67. Leedsgunner

    I think the loans will be great for the two young lads… good luck Chuba and Isaac hope you make the best of it and do a Coquelin!.

  68. Dimitri

    Akpom was crap at the Emirates cup. Gets his head down and runs but didn’t offer much else. Loans to the lower divisions are great for young players. Helps them toughen up a bit and prepares them well for the future. If they can’t adapt at lower levels odds are they won’t at an upper level either.

  69. Sam

    When you talk about Arsene’s treatment of junior players,don’t mention Coquelin.
    Remember he was being kicked out If he didn’t get a chance to play he would have been sold for 1Millions to a crap team playing crap football.
    Wenger reputation of nurturing young players is oxymoron.
    Would have kept Kyle ebicilio n maybe not, He’s more loyal to senior players especially crap ones. I can’t see play ahead of one legged Arteta.

  70. Rosicky@Arsenal

    So pedro has been wrong again.
    Predicting Santi leaving last yaer and this year again.

    Infact Pedro knows nothing about the club.

    Two years ago he predicted the manager has lost players backing and we won back to back FA cups

    He constantly moan that we are going backwards but we have seen progress .

    Wonder why we read his blog.

    I think just for Arsenal news.Nothing else IMo.

    Pedro out.

  71. Wallace

    Wenger gets on well with Steve Bruce, and Bruce was the only manager to get consistently good performances out of Lord Bendtner. should be a good move for Akpom & Hayden.

  72. Swiss guns

    Rosicky
    No offense, but the reason we all read the blog is that there is one to read.
    That’s down to Pedro, he’s provided the platform for you to voice your opinion, and you don’t pay pound one for the privilege.
    If you don’t like the product don’t use it.

  73. Thank you and goodnight

    @Rosicky

    May I suggest fucking off to untold with the other inbreds if you don’t like this blog. Every time you come on here it’s the same shit attacking pedro. So do us all a favour and fuck off

  74. qna

    Loans are great. But the only problem is we are not sending them places where they will develop technically or tactically. The old thinking was, get them EPL ready. But this has limited effectiveness and only readys players to a mid tier level. I cant think of any of our top top stars that have benefited from a loan – maybe Wilshere, but is he a top top star? Doesnt even start for us. Also, you cant count Coquelin, because at the time we called him back, we weren’t that excited about him. He excelled here, and not on loan.

    What I would expect from a loan is that at the end of that loan period, we see a player who we would just love to buy on the transfer market. So good, that we would be in for them, regardless of the fact that we already own them. I cant remember a single loan where that has been the case. This includes the foreign guys like Wellington and Campbell.

    So if this is the case, our loan program/project is simply a way to maintain squad depth on the cheap. This is why I am not overly excited by any of our youth guys, Crowly, Akpom etc. Because history tells me, none of them are going to be more than a squad player for us.

    Hopefully, this batch of guys are the ones to change history.

  75. tunnygriffboy

    Qna

    The loans are a way of getting young players into a strong league giving the regular very competitive football. It is un, ikely that at their age and with their experience any PL team would take them

    It gives them a chance to develop their game physically against men week in week out. Also it’s them growing as a person going into an alien environment , learn to cope and gfowing up and developing as a person

    It’s a chance to perform in a strong league without quite the pressure and glare of the PL. I think it’s got that they get out on loan. Will be interested to see how they perform. Crowley is very young but Wenger must see him as ready to compete with men. It’ll make him grow as an individual and get him used to the physical nature of things.

  76. nasri's mouth

    Nothing wrong with loans really.

    No point in keeping players in the youth system when they’ve outgrown it but they’re not ready for the first team.

    They get competitive football against older players with a crowd behind them.

    A lot of players come back saying they’ve learnt a lot.

  77. qna

    Tunny: The loans are a way of getting young players into a strong league giving the regular very competitive football. It is un, ikely that at their age and with their experience any PL team would take them

    Yeah, I obviously get the purpose of loans. I also agree a good loan spell in the EPL is worth oodles more than anywhere else. I am also hoping that we have put some gems out to pasture as well. But I am saying, going by our track record/history, I am not getting excited by any of the players we have sent out. Your Crowleys, Akpoms, Iwobis etc may turn out to be superstars – but I am not holding my breath. Thats all. Personally, I cant see anything extra-special in Crowley or Akpom. Havent seen enough of Crowley though, nor Iwobi.

    Tunny nice work by your cricket team. I guess KP can sit back down on his beach chair now. I think we will come back in the next test, but its ominous that Bell has finally put together an innings. But no Anderson as well. Hopefully Michael Clarke can do something in his last two test matches (I am guessing). He was a top player, so hopefully he can turn it around like Bell did.

  78. Emiratesstroller

    We need to send our younger players out on loan to get game time. That has not always happened when we send our youngsters to other clubs.

    Once this process has been completed in next few days and the Community Shield has been played we need to assess exactly what is still required for incoming transfer[s].

    Personally I would like to see Flamini offloaded and replaced with a younger and better DMF.

  79. Wallace

    Mourinho has started early this season with his pointed little barbs, but Wenger’s message to the journalists in his company was that he would rather not get involved if he could avoid it. “I will leave you and your love story with him to continue without interference,” he said. Wenger once said something similar about how the press acted towards Sir Alex Ferguson – “what I don’t understand,” he complained at the height of Arsenal’s rivalry with Manchester United, “is that he does what he wants and you are at all his feet” – but there was an irony here, too. Mourinho’s perception is that the press are actually in love with Arsenal’s manager. Ferguson used to think the same.

    – Guardian

  80. El Tel 1

    Not a criticism but some guys assume they know things when they don’t.

    Coquelin played a few games for Charlton. My Wife’s family are Charlton fans and they were raving about him. They said he was miles better then any other player in their side, they were disappointed when we took him back.

    As for loaning to First Division teams, this is the way to go.

    It’s ok for Sanogoals to go to Ajax to practice technique with the likes of DB10 as Sanogoals was physically strong enough anyway.

    Our kids though need to learn to play in an English league as English football is different from any other.

    Even in modern times we see kick bollock and bite football played in this country no matter how many foreign players there are.

    It’s our culture, our fans want to see fight before skill. It’s aggressive and the Referees allow lots more than they do abroad.

    Wills here went to Bolton with all the technical skills needed. He came back tougher, both mentally and physically.

  81. Nasri's Mouth

    qna: Thats all. Personally, I cant see anything extra-special in Crowley or Akpom. Havent seen enough of Crowley though, nor Iwobi.

    I’ve never been a massive fan of Akpom. I like him because he’s very determined and he has some skill. Sometimes it just clicks, like Harry Kane, but most of the time not. If he doesn’t come good, we make a million or 2 on him.

    Crowley is a couple of years younger and has been playing above himself with the U21s rather than the U18s. He’s got a better chance.

  82. gunnergetyou

    “Once this process has been completed in next few days and the Community Shield has been played we need to assess exactly what is still required for incoming transfer[s].”

    Most people new what was required before the window even opened.

  83. Jeff

    It must not happen. If we lose to Chelsea tomorrow it will be 13 games in which Wenger has never beater Mourinho in all meetings. Our confidence will be impaired going into the season. We simply must win tomorow.

  84. Dissenter

    Culled from the guardian;
    Wenger talking about the Cech transfer -“Van der Sar went from Fulham to Man United and still had six years in him. So I don’t see why Petr should not have a few years with us.”
    That’s what I was waiting for.
    Sczezny’s exit is permanent. There’s no place for him for the next four years at least.

  85. Rosicky@Arsenal

    TYAG

    whats the love affair with Pedro?

    I mentioned 2 points regarding Santi and Wenger which has been proven now that Pedero was wrong in both instances why do you want to defend him.

    He has been criticizing Arsenal since long why shoildnt I try to defend Arsenal on his blog when he wrote blogs about Santi leaving which was completely rubbish.

    Re Untold I am a regular reader of that site and find it to be more realistic and informative than Pedros blog.

    People here criticize me of praising Untold but I know most of them are frequent visitors there too.

    of course there is no restriction to read about your club on the web either you agree to it or not.

  86. Dissenter

    Rosicky,
    “Re Untold I am a regular reader of that site and find it to be more realistic and informative than Pedros blog.People here criticize me of praising Untold but I know most of them are frequent visitors there too.”

    Who are the frequent visitors on untold?
    The total daily posts on Untold are in the dozens. Posters get blocked for being anti-Wenger. It’s a one sided show.

  87. Rosicky@Arsenal

    Dissenter

    I don’t agree humbly.

    if you visit Untold you can find criticism from City and Spurs fans on the publisher. Also there are posters who criticize Wenger and the club frequently. No body is binned. I think people using excessive obscene and bad language are blocked .

    Re Pedros blog I have experience myself my comments regarding double standards of Western media towards 3rd world countries and US moral laws were blocked and moderated by Pedro himself.

    He laughed at me and humiliated me like anything.

  88. Redtruth

    It seems to most that how we fare in the league is secondary to how we fare in the transfer market.

    Wenger earns support if he delivers the goods in the transfer market. lol
    dumb mugs on this blog

  89. gunnergetyou

    Can we stop with the Benzema bollox, pretty obvious he’s not coming. Neither is Reus or Lewandowski.

    £200m in the bank might as well be £10m this summer. Cech is the only positive.