Bromance is dead. Flamini gone. Ozil to follow?

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HAPPY GOOD MORNING TO YOU!

So, before we kick off. I just want to apologise for anyone who had to read the embarrassing comments from some of the people on yesterday’s post. I left them up because it highlighted exactly the problem we have in the game. No, the problems we have in certain sections of society.

I couldn’t watch the friendly at the weekend, so I fired up a post from William that was relevant not only to football, but culturally, in light of some of the momentous events that have happened globally.

… and what did we get? A load of narrow minded bigots saying things like…

‘I didn’t come here for this / why do they have to parade it? / I don’t brag about how straight I am / slavery was worse / homosexuality is a lifestyle choice’

Jesus wept. No, he probably laughed. Or condemned people to hell dependent in which book you’re loving rn.

Anyway, I thought it was a fantastic post. Not often I feel sad in the world of blogging, just a shame that when you write about something like homosexuality in football, the ill-educated come out to play. And that’s what it is, you can’t be angry at intolerance, because it’s not that person’s fault. It’s an education thing.

Hopefully they’ll get learned proper good over time… then we can live in a society that doesn’t have an opinion on who loves who.

Unless it’s people loving on John Terry.

That’s the only sort of love I can’t tolerate.

#PREACH #GOONERFAM #HATETERRY

RIGHT.

Onto today’s football treats!

FLAMINI LEAVES (OZIL IS HIS BOY HE WILL BE SAD)

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Thank the good lord. He had, what, a month of really good games? Then he reverted back to what he was at Milan. You can’t knock his hard work, he was mostly the best runner on the team. You can knock his output. He was sloppy, he wasn’t the player he needed to be and Coquelin overshadowed him. He was a cheap stop gap back in the day when Wenger didn’t believe in holding midfielders.

… times, they a-changin’.

Now we have to buy. Wenger is playing Jack in the number 10 role when we’ve been touring. So he can’t come into that role, outside that, we have Bielek. He’s a kid and won’t be ready for at least 3 years. So we must buy.

Where will he go?

Who can Wenger spy?

Someone from Madrid? That Illamerwhatlettergohere chap? Maybe Gundogan of Dortmund? Grzegorz Krychowiak (CRAY NAME EH!). How about Bender? Calm down bigots, Lars Bender. Jeez…

I have no idea where we’ll look to pick from. I’m hoping Wenger has a plan. But as reported earlier on in the summer, it’s a deadwood out mission first.

Lukas, Diaby, Flamini, Campbell, Yaya and maybe Chezzer if Ajax come in for him. It’s been a glorious summer. One thing that has to be noted, our deadwood must be getting better, because the last batch were pretty hard to flog on!

Ch-ch-chaaaanges.

Up top, strong rumours we’re loving a bit of Aubameyang. Nightmare to spell, but a player who is of the goodest variety.

“We rely heavily on Aubameyang – that is no secret.”

“I’ve heard a lot about this (a transfer to Arsenal) but I can say very clearly that it is blocked for him. He is simply not for sale.”

Bit weird we avoided him when he was smashing up Ligue One for St.Etienne. Very Wenger like in style. He’s technically a bit scrappy, but he’s really fast and his finishing is pretty good. I haven’t watched him enough to really give the low down, but he’s not the finished article. You kind of feel if Welbeck had a good season they’d be very similar.

Dortmund have said he’s not for sale. That means little in the world of football.

There’s also talk of Dzeko. I’m not massively interested in him. Feels like a better version of Giroud. I want someone in who is a speed demon.

Interesting that Benteke has gone to Liverpool. The fee was pretty steep. £32m for a talent who hasn’t played in the Champions League is big money. But that’s what the rate is. People tweeting me that he’s only worth £16m have no clue what they’re talking about. His games to goals ratio is pretty impressive. He’s fired Villa out of the shit 3 seasons running and he has all the attributes you look for in a Premier League striker. He’s tall, he’s good on the floor, he’s very fast, he’s very powerful and if kept fit and played in a better team, he could be a big player.

Brendan Rodgers is either building an excellent team over there, or a terrible one. He’s focused back on the pace side of things and having a team that will press. Can he keep Benteke motivated? Big ask, that.

LVG appears to be building a very threatening outfit. That’s worrying.

We really do need to kick on with things. We’re short now. We don’t need to be short. There’s some chat in the papers and on the .com about Theo staying on. Part of me thinks this is great news, part of me things this is the foreplay before Wenger shoots ‘I am happy with the striking numbers’ load all over our collective backs.

… enjoy that porridge, yah?

Theo sells himself into that middle role, but maybe a little more accepting it’s tough for a wee man.

“In modern-day football the three up front tend to change around a lot,” said Walcott. “You see it with England and with Barcelona, so we have that sort of trust in each other knowing that everyone can do that sort of role. It’s not a problem at all.

“I like it anywhere. I enjoy playing for this club. It’s well-documented where I want to play but there’s a lot of competition in that front line. If I’m in a role then I have to do my best there, but it’s another option for the manager. It’s not a bad thought.”

I wonder whether the long term vision is to have three small forwards hitting the front line. That SAS line up Liverpool had the 2 seasons ago was unplayable. If you dropped Reus into our starting 11 through the middle, you’d not be far off pace wise.

Great Thierry interview from Alfie (Gooner) over at GQ. Here’s a snippet.

Manchester City were defending champions. Why were they so disappointing?

Because people adapt to what you do. Let me give you an example: in my time [at Arsenal] we never won back-to-back titles. Why is that? Because teams always adapt to how you play – they buy players, they get better. Another reason is that it’s a lot more difficult to dominate now: back then it was only Arsenal and Manchester United competing [for the title].

Read more here.

Finally, how about a bit of lovely banter?

671 Responses to “Bromance is dead. Flamini gone. Ozil to follow?”

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  1. TOLI83

    @londongunner

    I don’t think kick it out makes a difference however it’s a completely differ bet argument.

    Everywhere is going over the top with PC views – trying to appeal to the masses.

    It’s a load of nonsense. Our ground should be a fortress and intimidating, having a rainbow flag saying the gay gunners doesn’t really help that vibe does it? As I said the ground and decor should purely be about the team and the people on the pitch and last the heritage of Arsenal FC.

  2. Goondawg

    “Haha David James ex goalie and pundit totally agreed with me over begovic.he would of been a much better signing then Cech.”

    Personally any goalkeeper that is willing to play second fiddle to Courtois and pick up a hefty cheque doing it, isn’t the right goalkeeper to come play for Arsenal. He has effectively killed his career at the ripe age of 28, where a goalkeeper should be playing their best years on the pitch. Not the bench

    And wow johnty you have same views as the esteemed great David James. I def have to pay attention to your posts now(!)

  3. London gunner

    Dimtri

    I just don’t really see why you would have an issue with other people wanting to help the gay community by spreading tolerance.

    But whatever you have argued in a reasonable way and I can respect that.

  4. Pjay

    Nasri’s mouth
    “Homosexuality hasn’t always been frowned upon throughout history, but the current mainstream religions have been against it for some time, in just the same way they were against women having equal rights”

    That my friend is completely false and the basic problem with this gay argument..I understand u wanna say anything u like to support gays but distorting the truth won’t lead u anywhere @ all.
    Tell me which ancient society fully embraced homosexuality as they did to to heterosexuality as u claim above? Where? Religions beiliefs are as old as society and so tell me which religion openly celebrated homosexuality? None.

    The mainstream religions like christianity and islam have always opposed and still strongly oppose homosexuality in strong terms..and their books(bible or koran) which r their symbols still preach same? So what r u talking about? Has even budhism, hinduism and shintoism,etc openly celebrated gays? Stop with the lies.
    The current mainstream religions(and I am christian) have not changed their stance of gays..they have always preached against.

    I know u will as usual reply my post but pls I will appreciate if u give me facts on the above and not resort to any name calling or sentiments.

    London gunner
    “Yes I think science is important to the conversation, but I also think emotions and sentiments are as well, Part of what makes us fully functioning humans is our empathy. To be able to put yourself into the shoes of someone else is very important whether they be a gay man or not”.

    U clearly misunderstand me..emotions and sentiments r important as a human being but calling someone a “bigot” or “ill-informed” for having a different view on homosexuality doesn’t make ur point any more convincing..it only makes one look foolish.

    If am gonna try to convince u to look beyond my race/skin colour to give me a job, then am going to have to spend time timing selling u my skills,experience and competencies on the job and not telling u to give me the job because I am a minority or I need the job because am a human being like every other person..that’s my point and that’s the pro-gay sentiments and emotions to this debate..

    London gunner
    “Personally I am not gay. I cannot physically be attracted to men, nothing can convert me or change my sexual preferences. My feelings for men just simply aren’t there romantically or physically, So for this reason I don’t think you can convert gay men to straight. It just doesn’t work like that. You are what you are”.

    Speak for youself man..if u say you r not gay then why make comments like that? Do u know what it feels to be gay? And who told u that being gay is cast in stone? Have u not heard or seen gays who have struggled with their so-called status and then flirted with bisexuality and homosexuality at the same time? And who says a gay person cannot be converted to like men/women and vice versa? Why speak like u invented the rule book for gays? If ur gay then speak up/openly admit..u can’t claim not to be gay and then claim to know all the ins and out of being gay..if according to u it is inborn like race(being born black or white) so then u say what it is like as a “black man” to be feel fully white?

    London gunner
    “What I find odd is this fear from homophobic men that they can be “converted” or turned queer, I think this might actually spring from insecurity about their own sexuality, Perhaps they are repressing their true homosexual urges/feelings.”

    I don’t feel to sense that those against homosexuality feel insecure about their sexuality or being “converted”. Its you that seem to make comments that seem like ur gay or have felt/feel gay.

    Goodnight guys..and enjoy ur gay debate/discussion…keep it mature and respectful guys.

  5. bennydevito

    Sancho MonzorlaJuly 20, 2015 21:28:02
    The degrees to which even the “tolerant” folk are so misinformed about certain aspects of this issue is quite shocking, really.

    I hope you weren’t refering to me? I was refering to Pedro’s tolerance of RedTruth’s constant childish abuse on here not anything to do with gay issue.

    Care to elaborate?

  6. london gunner

    Toli83

    “It’s a load of nonsense. Our ground should be a fortress and intimidating, having a rainbow flag saying the gay gunners doesn’t really help that vibe does it? As I said the ground and decor should purely be about the team and the people on the pitch and last the heritage of Arsenal FC.”

    I get where you are coming from, I truly do. Of course it would be good to intimidate our rivals. But why does gay gunners mean its less intimidating?

    I think its more the atmosphere in terms of shouting, swearing, throwing things, spitting. setting of flairs, playing drums, threatening behaviour that works to intimidate a team.. you can do all this with out homophobic words and with a pro gay banner.

  7. london gunner

    pjay

    “That my friend is completely false and the basic problem with this gay argument..I understand u wanna say anything u like to support gays but distorting the truth won’t lead u anywhere @ all.
    Tell me which ancient society fully embraced homosexuality as they did to to heterosexuality as u claim above? Where? Religions beiliefs are as old as society and so tell me which religion openly celebrated homosexuality? None.”

    Zeus king of the greek gods had sexual intercourse with a man..

  8. Sancho Monzorla

    benny

    I did not mean you, in fact I didn’t notice anything about your post at all. I was referring more to the nutters since yesterday, who have had such vitriol laced throughout their posts while effusively proclaiming that they have no issues with homosexuality.

    I don’t care to go back and point out who, but there was a lot of them.

  9. london gunner

    Pjay

    I think your confusing my insight into the gay psyche with me being gay. I have two gay cousins and spoken to them about how they think and feel about their sexuality, because of this I think I can understand somewhat how gay people must feel and I imagine they feel the same way as I feel about women.

    Of course there have been gays who have struggled with their homosexuality but im guessing this isn’t because they are straight with gay urges, but more gay people wanting to fit in with straight people, to be excepted and thus hiding who they are.

  10. Thom

    ‘You are not spreading tolerance, you are promoting homosexuality.’

    Just in case this nonsense was true, what EXACTLY would be the problem in that?

  11. bennydevito

    1. PjayJuly 20, 2015 21:46:00
    Nasri’s mouth
    “Homosexuality hasn’t always been frowned upon throughout history, but the current mainstream religions have been against it for some time, in just the same way they were against women having equal rights”
    That my friend is completely false and the basic problem with this gay argument..I understand u wanna say anything u like to support gays but distorting the truth won’t lead u anywhere @ all.
    Tell me which ancient society fully embraced homosexuality as they did to to heterosexuality as u claim above? Where? Religions beiliefs are as old as society and so tell me which religion openly celebrated homosexuality? None.

    Oh dear. Oh deary, deary me.

    The Greeks.

    Give me strength. You really are absolutely clueless.

    http://www.religionfacts.com/greco-roman/ethics/homosexuality

  12. Sancho Monzorla

    “Tell me which ancient society fully embraced homosexuality as they did to to heterosexuality as u claim above?”

    The Romans, too. It was actually a sign of status to have young male slaves for sexual purposes. I remember it was explained to me as kind of a “women were for kids and family, men for pleasure” kind of mentality.

  13. bennydevito

    RedTruth,

    I may be wrong here, but, are you a devout Christian?

    Just curious. You speak the language.

  14. bennydevito

    Right. Who’s going to the Emirates cup this weekend? What would be the chances of getting a ticket at the gat or all sold out?

    I was hoping to meet up with N5 but you haven’t emailed me dude! I’ve dosed up on codene and got back to work whilst I await treatment for my back.

    What would be the chances of getting a ticket on the day anyone? I might wing it and get the train or coach over early Saturday morning and get to a Gunners pub and I need to locate a b&b for Saturday night and hopefully meet up with some of you grovers for a few ciders and go to the game on Sunday?

    Would be good.

    Karim? N5?

  15. Mohap99

    Lets just talk football please!!!! This is getting out of hand with some dumb comments and its also useful with the lovely comments as well.. but the dumb ones overshadow the good ones so lets just stick to football please…
    Have we signed Benzema yet????

  16. Emiratesstroller

    tunnygriffboy

    Yes I was aware of the Thomas circumstances in rugby but not that of referee.

    I am 100% sure as I suggested that the reasons that players in professional team sports are reluctant to come “out” is as you and I suggested the potential impact on their careers and not so much what people think.

    It is also as I suggested yesterday not a different situation to a footballer having an affair with a teammate’s wife or girlfriend and the impact of that on
    morale. This has happened in the past and had serious consequences within
    clubs.

    The rugby referee who has outed is in a different situation, because he operates at arms length and is not directly involved on a day by day basis at club
    level.

  17. Dan Ahern

    Keyser come back. I know we squabble, but I’d much rather argue about the futility of improving football teams than be this uncomfortably close to humanity’s follies.

  18. tunnygriffboy

    Really nice article in the Telegraph, an interview with Petr Chech. He’s a consumate pro. He still has a desire to be successful and win things. He’ll be brilliant to have around the club.

    Sterling £200 k a week. Milner £150 k a week. Can you blame Walnut for asking for £100 k ? Wages are going stratospheric.

    Sal

    1980s/90s Bonny Tyler had a chain of nightclubs in South Wales one of which was 1/2 km from my house. She was regularly in there oon weekends. Was called the Valbonn

  19. tunnygriffboy

    Henry wants 4 new signings. He should get his bloody priorities right, stop doing those bloody sky commercials and get to Madrid and sit on Benzema’s doorstep to persuade him to come to us. Seriously couldn’t we use him this way ? Ozil needs to get onto his old mucker on the phone as well.

  20. Goondawg

    Scezney just followed the official Roma Instagram page, Totti, Iturbe, Florenzi, Iturbe, Strootman, Skoripski, Castan and Pjanic. (Also Gervinho, but that my have been followed already from his Arsenal days)

    Something is definitely up

  21. Bermy boy

    Part of me thinks this is great news, part of me things this is the foreplay before Wenger shoots ‘I am happy with the striking numbers’ load all over our collective backs.

    Funny as hell but true…sigh.

  22. Dark Hei

    As we are on the topic on coming out, I guess I will just have to state that I am a devout Christian.

    But since I have only acquaintances and not any close homosexual friends, I will have to say that I clearly do not understand the struggles, they go through. To say otherwise will be bigotry.

    What I do feel is that because of this war from opposite sides of the camp, some folks like myself are going to be collateral.

  23. Moray

    Pedro: “Thom, I don’t feel comfortable turning up at a game in skinny jeans in case I get shouted at for being a homo.”

    At least something good has come from the bigotry. With a bit of luck they will pick on your hair too 😉

  24. ADKB

    Morning super-freakingly-awesome-gunners:-) How about this for a chant?

    Ain’t nobody messin’ with my
    CECH, CECH, CECH, CECH, CECH

    (Click – Kanye West)

  25. ADKB

    @tunnygriffboy: I’m liking Cech more and more. He sounds like a decent bloke. I wouldn’t mind him being made captain if he performs well for us this season.

    And if he helps us win the Community Shield, I’ll run around the Emirates naked:-)

  26. Biggus

    Morning all. Hope we have more positive posts today.

    Tempted to do a last minute dash for the Emirates cup but i’ll probably get crap seats…

    @ADKB, ermm do we need to be traumatized for finally conquering Maureen? lol..keep the streaking for when we win the league 🙂

  27. Uwot?

    So this seasons shiny new toy for Madrid is none other than marco reus(shocking the Mickey mousers lol!)this is what I mean by “the domino effect”-once this transfer gets underway expect the dominoes to start falling,only then will we remotely have a chance of big Benz……

  28. Highbury4ever

    Reus between liverpool and madrid…

    Damned, it’s a very tough decision to make.
    It would be easier to chose the Arsenal lol

    Relaaaaaaax arsène, just kidding, the bank account is safe lololol

  29. Jim Lahey

    Benzema all day, we have a competent DM in Coq we need a WC striker.

    Everyone will be after Benzema if he decides to go, don’t fancy our chances on bagging him tbh.

  30. Rocky Pires

    Benzema’s skills and attributes are world calls I just worry about his attitude and application .
    Hope to be proved wrong on that front but that’s all that worries me.

  31. Jim Lahey

    LVG on bringing in a new stiker:

    “He’s in the process,” Van Gaal said. “It’s not the striker that the media has written about. You have to wait and see.

    “The transfer period is open until August 31. You have to wait.”

    Bye-bye Benzema….

  32. Emiratesstroller

    tunnygriffboy

    Henry is beginning to sound like a football pundit rather than someone who aspires to be a coach or manager.

    Arsenal are not going to buy four new players. Where are we going to put them? Its absolute nonsense.

    Personally I feel that there are very few players who have been available on the market so far that would be considered an upgrade on what we have got.

    The only one of real interest was Schneiderlein and I think Wenger opted out,
    because of the difficulties in accommodating him in current midfield setup.

    Once the wheat has been separated from chaff following sale of Flamini and
    Campbell I am sure that the club will focus on bringing in at least new outfield
    player most probably a forward.

    When you analyse our squad we have currently three options in almost every
    position on the field when you factor in the flexibility of some of the players.

    For example if Ozil were to get injured Wenger could play Cazorla further
    upfield or either Wilshire or Oxlade- Chamberlain in the attacking midfield position.

    If Cazorla got injured you have the option of playing Ramsey or Wilshire as
    an alternative.

  33. Dark Hei

    Good, good, I am in agreement too. Benzema all day long.

    I think Benteke is going to tank over at Liverpool. He is just not suited for Brendan Rodgers style of football. Either that or Brendan is going to change his style.

  34. Dream10

    Think Man Utd will sign Pedro and Berahino. They both have pace and can make runs in behind the back four. Put Rooney in between them and you have a very good front three. Berahino will have a very good career. Surprised City are not after him

  35. Alfie

    “Think Man Utd will sign Pedro and Berahino.”

    I haven’t been too fussed over their current signings but add these two and that’s a PL winning side.

  36. Dark Hei

    Alfie

    I doubt so. Firstly, Barcelona is not going to let Pedro leave. Maybe in Jan. Secondly, these bunch of strangers will take a while to play LVG’s brand of football. Think about it.

    Defence – It’s the same shitty defence as last year.
    Midfield – It’s entirely new. The only thing going for it from last season is the Mata-Herrera combo and Fellanini’s knock downs. And the Afro Belgian is likely to get phased out.
    Attack – It’s almost brand new too

  37. Alfie

    Dark Hei –

    I don’t know if Pedro will leave Barca or not. Crazier things have happened, I was talking hypothetically.

    I know cohesion is importnant (ha!) but on paper, that’s a strong side.

  38. Salvage

    Why in the world do you have to have a rainbow flag for gays in the stadium? If you are gay, be gay for yourself, if you are straight, be straight for yourself. Dont bring all this nonsense into football. Let football be for football. So do we expect a flag for hetrosexuals? Why do gay people have to always pull attention to themselves. Just be the whatever you want to be and dont rub anything in anyone’s face. Just stop it already.