Benzem-no |If Jack was back up to Coq, would you be pleased?

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Just dealt with a real moment of culture clash.

An American chap stopped the lift door closing on not one, but two occasions for people needing the lift. He did this at a station.

He really crossed the line. You should have heard my furious sigh.

So two film thoughts. Britain versus America. Two war films based on true stories, American Sniper. Tracking an American war hero struggling to come to terms with the killing of 160 people in the line of duty. Heroic, sad, the underlying message seemingly that killing people affects the vibe at family BBQs.

My British film, Kajaki. Oh my fucking days. If you ever want a film that showcases the grimness of war, this is it. Literally a group of guys getting blown up by land mines for 2 hours. Absolutely harrowing. No justice, no sweet ending, just carnage only made remotely watchable because of the banter the soldiers were having about their blown off legs. The most difficult film I’ve watched since Jurassic World. The underlying message that war is not glamour and it’s maybe a bit pointless in most cases.

Really interesting how two countries portray military in art.

#StickToFootball

Ok, ok, so what have we today?

Arsenal in for £40m Karim Benzema?

That’d be nice. Real nice. Trying to not emotionally involve myself in this one. If it happens, I’ll be delighted, but I’ve been hurt by too many big names over the years. Strikers are bastards. I don’t need any more bad ones in my life. All the false hopes and shattered dreams.

I’m a broken fan.

Anyway, rumours have been strong all summer and Rafa is always up for doing something stupid. Maybe they’re thinking about Aguerro?

Who isn’t thinking about that dreamboat.

Update: Turns out Arsene has made a denial. Didn’t see his face, so can’t tell if it’s a real denial, or a ‘I’m doing it look at my face revealing the lie’ denial.

Starting to feel like we’re losing pace with the summer again. It’s weird, because transfer wise, we feel we need more players, but if you based your perception of our prospects in Jan onwards, we had basically everything bar a striker and a keeper. We now have the keeper. We just need a forward, which HAS to be a priority.

I mean, would you be sad if we didn’t buy a DM and used Jack there? I’m not sure I’d be sad. It’s a solution that’s worked for England and the player wants it. Jack isn’t good enough to play number 10, there are better players in the deep lying playmaker role. So could he be the back up ball winner to Coq?

Maybe…

Right, not a lot out there today and I’m well late for work. Have a grand one darlings.

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Thomas, you’ve just won two tickets to the Emirates Cup. You lucky bugger. E-mail me and I’ll get that sorted. Remember, it’s a trophy and we usually win it.

ALSO, before I leave this, had a bit of critique for running this yesterday.

Couple of points here:

1) I’m not paid to do this. It’s a ticket give away. There’s nothing dark about it.

2) I am a critical voice when I need to be. But I’ve never been militant with the club or the people that work there. It’s a game. I love the club and if they want to do something nice to raise awareness of a game, I see no issue. Nor do I think I’ve been compromised.

3) I am selling out big time in a few weeks, you can critique then

924 Responses to “Benzem-no |If Jack was back up to Coq, would you be pleased?”

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  1. Bamford10

    Gonsterous

    Sure Giroud CAN lead the line — but only to a 3rd or 4th place finish and a CL 16 exit. If we want to do better than that — and I assume you do — we need better than Giroud.

    This has been evident for years now.

  2. Jamie

    Completely off topic, but I have a mate from Teeside. Downing to Boro. Surely a great signing for them? He should light up the Championship.

  3. Bamford10

    Dream10

    Reus over Benzema because the former would better “complement” Giroud? The whole point is we need to get Giroud off the field. That’s why we need a CF, not just an undefined “striker”.

    Reus is fantastic, but if he came and played wide, Giroud would still be the CF, we’d still be hamstrung and we’d be only marginally better than we are with Ox wide.

    We need a CF — Benzema, Lewandowski, Muller even, Lacazette.

    Emiratestroller

    You’re too narrowly focused on goal-production. Yes we want a CF who would score more than Giroud does, but we would also benefit from a striker whose pace opens spaces in behind that are currently closed, opens space for other players in ways that Giroud cannot, and who through dribbling and interplay can create chances both for himself and others.

    These are things top forwards — Tevez, Benzema, Lewa, Aguero — can do, but which Giroud cannot. It is not merely about being “a 30-goal-striker,” as you are always on about.

  4. Jamie

    If only there was a way to convince Suarez to bite Messi, then Wenger can ride in with a 40m+1 bid.

    I’d take Reus over Benzema given the choice. He’s much more useful over a range of positions, and the thought of losing Alexis to injury scares the bejesus out of me, much moreso than playing Welbeck/Wally up front.

  5. Wallace

    Jack aint a Coq back up. i’d rather see Debuchy there. Jack can play alongside a DM, as a no. 10, or on the right. in that order of effectiveness.

  6. Dream10

    Bamford

    Fair point. The only thing with Benzema is he willing to be a key cog in a team not as dominant as Real? When he is required to be the main man for his nat’l team, he is somewhat disappointing. However, the biggest beneficiaries of Benzema at #9 will be Ramsey and Walcott.
    If we play a 4-3-3 with an Ozil, Benzema, Sanchez front line, Ramsey will thrive.
    Theo can be a genuine 1 in 2 goalscorer in league play (15 in 30) and can really hurt team off the bench in the last 30 minutes.

  7. Rocky Pires

    gambonJuly 17, 2015 10:17:48
    Jack as a DM is an utter liability

    Exactly, he hasnt the physical presence , the tactical know how or most importantly the discipline to stay there, he will be caught out above the striker when an attack breakdown, perhaps in time he could be his role, but his insistenace in bringing the ball into every tackle, his poor range of passing(only left foot), his slow distruction and then add in no heading ability,not good enough tackling ability, make no sense.

    If you were chasing a game he could play alongside a CM, in a CM role but never as a CDM in important games .

  8. Dream10

    The two qualities of a good CDM are positioning and passing. Wilshere’s positioning is erratic centrally. Despite not having Coquelin for the half of the season, playing Jack through the centre was a contributing factor to our below average form. His first inclination is to dribble. Playing him on the right is the best option to keep our defensive shape in the CM area. He can provoke with his dribbling and one-two’s w/out leaving acres of space for the opposition to exploit.

  9. gambon

    Alfie

    We could maybe win the PL. Chelsea would still be favourites.

    Why Cazorla wide again though? That isnt happening.

  10. blsany

    We are fucking Arsenal.Not Roy Hodgson’s boys you can keep that fucking experiment.Thought we were gunning for The real tittles so what’s with all these failed experiments all of sudden?Is it another case of Wenger being frugal old man?Same old broken record!

  11. Emiratesstroller

    Bamford 10

    I suggest that you read in my post at 8.53 on last thread.

    I made the point that Benzema would offer more skill and mobility in critical
    games, but what he does not offer is significantly more goals than Giroud. If
    you are lucky it will be 3-4 more on current evidence.

    What I went onto say is that if the team was to increase the number of goals
    scored in EPL from 71 last season to lets say 85 or 86, which title challengers
    should be able to score then it required more productivity from likes of Walcott,Welbeck and of course our midfielders.

    Your problem is that you are obsessed with what you perceive are deficiencies
    of Giroud and not his strengths.

  12. gonsterous

    Bamford

    Fair point on giroud Not being good enough. But I can’t see how we are going to bring in a striker unless we sell welbeck or wally or akpom and that’s not going to happen this season.
    On a side note, would you like to see bellerin continue in RB or Debuchy at the start of the season ?

  13. blsany

    Cech
    Bellerin-Gab-Koz-Mon
    KOndog-Cog
    Ox-Ozil-Alexis
    Benzema.

    This right here was all he had to assemble .Not fucking difficult.Could go all the way and back with this squad!!

  14. Dissenter

    Why not play the player to his strengths.
    Why try to force square pegs in round holes?
    It seems the Arsenal way is to keep trying to reinvent the wheel. It just demeans the defensive midfield postion, one decade after we finally found someone with some proficiency.

    Jack’s impulses are to surge forward and contribute directly to a goal. It will be Alex Song, all over again. Besides, he doesn’t have the ankles for a crushing tackle.
    Jack is one tackle away from another 6 month physio break.

  15. VP

    ‘’Jack as a DM is an utter liability’’

    Agreed. The guy has no positional awareness nor discipline. He’s definitely not a DM.

    It makes me laugh when people state that they prefer a certain player because he can play more than one position. I know what we should buy him because he can play central and on the wings. This has been a problem of ours for a number of years. We buy players that can play a variety positions but can never truly pull of one position with to the standard required (eg Welbeck, Gervinhio, Podolski).

    Wenger’s come out and said that most of our midfielders if asked would want to play central….well maybe because most of them are central players you twat! Quite clearly, a whole load of central midfielders have been stockpiled and then shifted to wide positions on a ad-hoc basis as a cost saving exercise. That’s exactly why we find ourselves with a midfield that has the jack of all trades but masters of none.

    If we do buy a striker, make sure he specializes in being striker for fuck sake.! There is no need to consider whether he can play elsewhere

  16. Wallace

    Dissenter

    “Why not play the player to his strengths.
    Why try to force square pegs in round holes?
    It seems the Arsenal way is to keep trying to reinvent the wheel.”

    it was Pedro’s suggestion, not Wenger’s. Wenger has already said he doesn’t think DM is a good position for Jack.

  17. Dissenter

    The same posters who didn’t want Vidal because he’s too old at 28 years are now advocating for Benzema, who’s only 7 month younger.

    Bayern’s summer purchases have been Douglas (27 years) and Vidal (28 years). Buying players at the peak of their prowess is the better deal.

  18. Wallace

    VP

    “Wenger’s come out and said that most of our midfielders if asked would want to play central….well maybe because most of them are central players you twat! Quite clearly, a whole load of central midfielders have been stockpiled and then shifted to wide positions on a ad-hoc basis as a cost saving exercise.”

    nope, he buys CMs because that’s usually where the best players play. he’s probably guilty of buying good players first, then hoping they can adjust to what he wants from them.

  19. Crusaderrabbit

    What riles me about so called fans saying we don’t need new signings – every major club in the world recognises that shiny new exciting players are an essential component of the supporter experience. Our club seem to be happy to launch new expensive kits, raise ticket prices year on year – but when we say we need a ‘proper’ striker or DM support some so called fans look down on you.

    Well am sorry I agree 100% with that Football365 article – I don’t pay to see cohesion, I pay for excitement. You can mock this new transfer obessesed Sky Sports rolling news world – but that’s the one we live in, and it’s totally unacceptable for the club to claim it’s elite (and charge for that) yet not keep up it’s side of the bargain. And the manager should be forced to follow that line – you’re a fool if you think anything else is OK

  20. bergkamp10

    COQ will start so we only need a sub DM – Certainly not a priority
    Chambers could easily be moulded into a DM

    We need a striker! That is all we need!

    There is no room for any other position in this Arsenal team
    And we don’t sell our best players anymore

    So this is a very good time to be a gooner right now!
    All the haters should just go follow a different sport

    #COYG #POSITIVETHINKING

  21. VP

    nope, he buys CMs because that’s usually where the best players play. he’s probably guilty of buying good players first, then hoping they can adjust to what he wants from them.

    ————————————————————————————————————-
    ”then hoping they can adjust”

    my point exactly

  22. Dissenter

    Wallace,
    “Why not play the player to his strengths.
    Why try to force square pegs in round holes?
    It seems the Arsenal way is to keep trying to reinvent the wheel.”it was Pedro’s suggestion, not Wenger’s. Wenger has already said he doesn’t think DM is a good position for Jack”. http://www.espnfc.us/barclays-premier-league/story/1573214/arsene-wenger-jack-wilshere-suited-to-deeper-role-at-arsenal

    Didn’t Wenger convert Arteta from central midfield to Defensive midfield?
    Hasn’t Wenger publicly suggested that Jack migh have a place in the “deeper role”?

  23. Emiratesstroller

    Dream 10

    My gut feeling is that Wenger will try and use Wilshire as a more defensive
    midfielder whenever Coquelin does not play.

    Wenger is under considerable pressure from likes of Ramsey,Wilshire and Cazorla to play them centrally in starting lineup.

    If Wilshire does play a more defensive role then you are right he will need to
    be more disciplined than his displays in previous games at club. However, I
    did see enough when he played for England that providing that the other
    midfielders in team track back and defend properly when Wilshire is out of
    position it can work.

    What I do know is that we need Coquelin to be playing in games against physically strong sides like Chelsea. We cannot afford to gamble in such games.

  24. Uwot?

    Wenger is waiting for “the domino effect”-until real/barca make their moves,nothing happens….”..

  25. Crusaderrabbit

    What riles me about so called fans saying we don’t need new signings – every major club in the world recognises that shiny new exciting players are an essential component of the supporter experience. Our club seem to be happy to launch new expensive kits, raise ticket prices year on year – but when we say we need a ‘proper’ striker or DM support some so called fans look down on you.

    Well am sorry I agree 100% with that Football365 article – I don’t pay to see cohesion, I pay for excitement. You can mock this new transfer obessesed Sky Sports rolling news world – but that’s the one we live in, and it’s totally unacceptable for the club to claim it’s elite (and charge for that) yet not keep up it’s side of the bargain. And the manager should be forced to follow that line – you’re a fool if you think anything else is OK

  26. DUIFG

    you would lose so much in terms of ball winning ability would be scary.

    It looks like arteta is the number 2 this season, big shame.

  27. blsany

    Dissenter
    “The same posters who didn’t want Vidal because he’s too old at 28 years are now advocating for Benzema, who’s only 7 month younger.”

    Bruv RESALE value is worth more than winning CL l to some folks on here.

  28. gambon

    ““The same posters who didn’t want Vidal because he’s too old at 28 years are now advocating for Benzema, who’s only 7 month younger.”

    A football season is only 9 months long.

    Thats an extra season, which is a big deal.

  29. Alfie

    What I notice with Wenger is that he is happy to talk about big transfer fee’s and how we cannot compete but doesn’t mention the rising cost of his wages, season tickets and the money TV deals bring in now.

    Im getting a bit sick of it all tbh.

  30. Alfie

    “The same posters who didn’t want Vidal because he’s too old at 28 years are now advocating for Benzema, who’s only 7 month younger.”

    Two totally different players with different circumstances. Like comparing to Cech.

  31. Dissenter

    “COQ will start so we only need a sub DM – Certainly not a priority
    Chambers could easily be moulded into a DM”

    I think this was tried at Southampton on New Years day. Chambers lasted only one half before he was pulled out because he was out if his depth.
    The kid is a Center back, nothing else.

    Why not just buy another defensive midfielder. It took Southampton £8 million pounds and two days to replace Schneiderlin. (Ok, the ground work took longer). It not as hard as Wenger makes it sound.

  32. Emiratesstroller

    There are in my view two outfield players in current squad whose position in starting eleven is sacrosanct providing they are not injured and playing well and they are Ozil and Sanchez.

    All the other players in current squad are competing for 8 places in the team.
    However, we do know that Wenger likes to keep a stable team and does not
    favour too much rotation.

    That is likely to be the main dilemma next season particularly in midfield and
    attack.

  33. blsany

    “Im getting a bit sick of it all tbh.”

    Wooosa,wooosa mate.We are still looking at 38 days.Doesn’t get any easier any summer right?

  34. VP

    Unfortunately, it’s too late to put any type of pressure on the Manager/Board now. The time to do this was in May. But once again, the fans were to busy enjoying their Wembley day out to consider what’s really in the best interests of the club.

  35. gambon

    Anyone spot the pattern:

    – New Stadium
    – Project Youth
    – FFP
    – Cohesion

    What will they think up once Cohesion has run its course?

  36. Dissenter

    Alfie,
    ““The same posters who didn’t want Vidal because he’s too old at 28 years are now advocating for Benzema, who’s only 7 month younger.”Two totally different players with different circumstances. Like comparing to Cech.”

    Who said they were playing the same position?
    The emphasis was on this penny-saving mindset of gooners that always harps on the age and resale value. My post was about the age.
    If Vidal is too old (born in May 1987), why is Benzema (born Dec 1987) any better.
    A central midfielder (like Vidal) can still perform at the top level when he’s 33 years old but a central striker like Benzema won’t be in a top club when he’s 33 years old.

    You get my drift?

  37. Dream10

    Emirates

    We have achieved a solid string of results with Ramsey at CM (first half of 13-14) and Cazorla in the same position (second half of 14-15). We have not achieved a decent set of results with Jack at CM, let alone CDM. I don’t he is capable of combining his dribbling, improved positioning and passing to play deep against PL and CL opposition. Don’t trust him defensively.

  38. Wallace

    Dissenter

    “Hasn’t Wenger publicly suggested that Jack migh have a place in the “deeper role”?”

    “He is not a ball-winner,” says Wenger. “I believe he is more a guy who you want to get close to the final third. To keep him deep you take a big part of his efficiency away. He is a guy who likes to penetrate when there is many people, he can provoke free-kicks, he can create openings. It would be detrimental to his strengths in a position that is not his strength.”

    – October, 2014

  39. blsany

    “COQ will start so we only need a sub DM – Certainly not a priority
    Chambers could easily be moulded into a DM”

    Bullshit.We need a ball playing DM that offers passing range that Coq hasn’t developed yet.As it stands right now.You can dominate Arsenal’s midfield if you pin down Cazorla and make Ozil come back into our own half to receive the ball.Which would be counter productive and would isolate the front 3 from midfield.That’s exactly what top teams will do to us when we play them if go in to the season as we are.Seems like Wenger has made up his mind already.

  40. Alfie

    Dissenter –

    Im hear ya.

    Ive always said that Arsenal fans are the closest to accountants that I know.

    We pay the highest ticket prices yet still feel the need to wince when a players fee goes above the 10m mark.

  41. Dissenter

    gambon,
    “““The same posters who didn’t want Vidal because he’s too old at 28 years are now advocating for Benzema, who’s only 7 month younger.”A football season is only 9 months long.Thats an extra season, which is a big deal”

    Actually, it is less on an issue with central midfielders that with strikers. A central midfielder can still be in a top club in their early thirties because they don’t rely so much on pace but a striker will struggle to still play (regularly) in a big club at the same advanced age.

    We tend to harp to much on age here.
    Bayern still thinks Vidal can provide four more years. If he helps them win another CL then they’ll consider the deal fruitful.

    They lost a 30 year old and replaced him witha 28 year old, sweet.

  42. Uwot?

    I repeat ,nothing happens until “the domino effect” starts or doesn’t as May be the case.but we al know how real like a shiny new toy every new season..so…..

  43. Wallace

    Vidal’s all-action. if he is to play to 33/34 he’ll definitely have to modify his game. the way he plays currently he’s got two, maybe three seasons left at the top.

  44. goonerjay

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfHSwgHJimk

    “Jack can’t play the deeper lying role in Midfield… he’s a liability… blah blah fucking blah”

    6 MOTM performances in 7 games for England in that position suggests otherwise.
    The level of arrogance from some “Championship Manager” experts on this site is frightening. If any of you are as clued up about football as you like to tell us all… you’d be paid millions to select a team for a Pro club! Alas… your on a blog comment section telling everyone you know best. No lads… you know fuck all!
    There is no reason at all that Jack can’t perform the role he plays for England for us against the likes of Villa and West Brom.

  45. foxy

    Sorry ES but we are not making any £30M + signings this Summer unless a top top quality CF becomes available.

    You can forget about AW paying £25-35M for a CDM. It never has happened and never will happen whilst he remains in charge. No specialist CDM purchased since Giberto whilst relying on the likes of Flamini, Song and Arteta to do an inadequate job in that role since 2007 shows you the lack of respect Wenger has shown to that position (thank gawd he lucked out on Coquelin).

    Benteke is not top top quality yet but does have the potential to reach that level.

    Paying £35M+ for a striker of this calibre (benteke, lacazette, Aubameyang) isnt really a viable option for us currently when we have a squad that is congested with these types of talented young players looking to reach the next level (jack, Ox, ramsey, welbeck etc). We need to supplement these players with individuals that have proved it at the highest level and, importantly, are winners too.

    Cech, Sanchez and Ozil are fantastic signings in this regard. The addition of a Benzema or Lewandowski could really push us over the line into becoming consistent challengers for the league. So despite the frustrations over the lack on incoming players, sitting tight for now and playing the waiting game may be the best option. It would be disgusting to sign benteke and then see benzema become available a month later.

    isnt a viable option for us when we have a squad full of players

  46. Emiratesstroller

    Dream 10

    If we assume that Ozil will be in our starting X1 then we have Coquelin, Cazorla, Ramsey and Wilshire competing for the other 2-3 midfield positions available.

    On last season’s evidence you are correct that Coquelin would probably play
    CDM and Cazorla and Ramsey will be selected ahead of Wilshire.

    However, we are talking THIS SEASON and selections will be determined by current form.

    Also you have to factor in that Wenger could play three players up front with
    either Walcott or Ox playing alongside Sanchez and Giroud or even another
    striker if he were to go for Benzema or Lacazette.

    At the moment everything is pure guesswork.

  47. TitsMcGee

    Anyone spot the pattern:– New Stadium
    – Project Youth
    – FFP
    – Cohesion

    What will they think up once Cohesion has run its course”

    Lmao

    Bad luck.

    Coincidence.

    The fans are the reason we don’t win because they are too negative.

    The weather in England doesn’t compliment Wenger ‘s style. If we played in Spain we’d be better than Madrid.

    Blah blah blah.

    Lol

  48. vicky

    foxy

    “Benteke is not top top quality yet but does have the potential to reach that level.”

    What level ? Benteke is ordinary.

  49. Emiratesstroller

    foxy

    I beg to differ.

    This will not be just a decision for Wenger alone. We receive large sums of money from sponsors and they expect Arsenal to use that money wisely and keep on competing for Title and/or CL place against other top teams.

    Wenger spent over 40 million on Ozil and over 30 million on Sanchez and I expect him to do same this season even though it may not be necessarily on the
    players discussed on Le Grove.

    Arsenal will have made at least one significant transfer by the endow of window. You do not seriously believe that we are going to spend just £10 million
    in this window!

  50. foxy

    “Arsenal will have made at least one significant transfer by the endow of window. You do not seriously believe that we are going to spend just £10 million
    in this window!”

    You should know by now ES wenger doesnt spend for the sake of it. And Im pretty sure there is no clause in his contract forcing him to spend if the CEO If his targets arent available or we are outbid for a player the money will remain in the bank.

  51. TitsMcGee

    I don’t believe that we will spend just £10 million but I am not convinced we will buy an expensive player either.

    Wenger either gets exactly who he wants or he gets nobody.

    He will figure that Cech will account for an extra 6 points and he will summise that that will be good enough for top 4.

  52. foxy

    *“Arsenal will have made at least one significant transfer by the endow of window. You do not seriously believe that we are going to spend just £10 million In this window!”

    You should know by now ES wenger doesn’t spend for the sake of it. And Im pretty sure there is no clause in his contract forcing him to spend if the CEO of Emirates of Citroen want him to. If his targets aren’t available or we are outbid for a player the money will remain in the bank.

  53. Uwot?

    My brain hurts!foxy,Vicky,Emirates roller your’e all right for gods sake ! But in different ways.hurry up real/ barca you scummers!!

  54. blsany

    ” If his targets aren’t available or we are outbid for a player the money will remain in the bank.”

    Money for the pay rise surely.

  55. Uwot?

    Gerry Armstrong?who? I hear you say..ex -spud!so called spanish football expert,racked up a few games for Majorca back in the day is adamant real won’t off load benzama for various reasons.so there you have it or do you?

  56. Carts

    SRG

    I was unaware of the £6m Ings fee. I wouldn’t pay much attention to wage increase as that a formality.

    Tunny

    He has spent a heap load of money no doubt. I think if there’s something we can all agree on is that the Liverpool board have back Rodger more than sufficiently

  57. Wallace

    Tits

    “Wenger either gets exactly who he wants or he gets nobody.”

    hurts to say it, but i agree with the above.

  58. Steve Boulds velvet glove

    “Arsenal are set to make an improved offer for Borussia Dortmund striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, according to reports in Germany.”

    Certainly brings something different up front to Giroud.

  59. Carts

    “I mean, would you be sad if we didn’t buy a DM and used Jack there? I’m not sure I’d be sad. It’s a solution that’s worked for England and the player wants it. Jack isn’t good enough to play number 10, there are better players in the deep lying playmaker role. So could he be the back up ball winner to Coq?

    Maybe…”

    Pedro, you been smoking da ting, by any chance?

    A solution that’s worked for England against countries who were simply inferior to England. Poor gauge there, fella.

    I don’t give a fuck how many YouTube compilations of Mascherano, Pirlo and Busquests Jack has watched, the simple fact is that no one knows where to play jack and it’s apparent that he slide further and further down the field. At this rate he’ll be a left back by 2018.

  60. Sukky

    I think Emiratesstroller is right with his 10:38 post. Bamford10 definitely only focus on Giroud’s weakness. You’re forgetting every player has one.

  61. Carts

    I don’t understand Wenger, he went and signed a world class goalkeeper when we already had 2 world class goalkeepers.

    Does he think we also have 3 world class DMs in Coq, Arteta and Flamini?

  62. blsany

    Wasn’t Aubemyang on the market when we bought Welbz for 16 mill for 10.5 mill?Now we want to buy him for 30 + mill.Explain the logic someone.

  63. Carts

    “Arsenal are set to make an improved offer for Borussia Dortmund striker Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, according to reports in Germany.”

    I can’t put my finger on it, but there’s something about Aubameyang that I find shit…so much so that if we signed him I’d be annoyed.

  64. Carts

    “Wasn’t Aubemyang on the market when we bought Welbz for 16 mill for 10.5 mill?Now we want to buy him for 30 + mill.Explain the logic someone.”

    Shhhh…Welbeck brings pace, power and sheer industriousness. He’s also versatile: operating wide or centrally. LVG fucked up selling him to us. He’ll be sorry.

  65. Steve Boulds velvet glove

    “Wasn’t Aubemyang on the market when we bought Welbz for 16 mill for 10.5 mill?Now we want to buy him for 30 + mill.Explain the logic someone.”

    To be fair, you could say that about multiple teams and players. Needed to prove himself in a stronger league than the French one. I think the german league is a step up. That said, £30m+?? Not so sure. Better than Benteke?? I’d say so

  66. VP

    What will they think up once Cohesion has run its course?
    ——————————————————————————————————–

    Cohesion…just another pathetic excuse in trying to justify the inflated bank balance, made worse by the fact that interest rates are at an all time low. Previously being prudence, organic growth and sustainability.

    Words commonly associated with persons reluctant or incapable to manage and implement change. In our case I think it’s both.

  67. Carts

    “”It depends on the market. It’s not easy at the moment because there are many clubs out there buying and the number of players who can strengthen the really big teams is restricted.””

    The remixed version last summer was “there isn’t anyone out there”. You’d think it was part of a script from Interstellar for fucks sake.

    It’s never fucking easy, Wenger. You’ve been doing this for a while now.

  68. Sukky

    What’s the difference between Walcott and Aubemyang? Height and also Walcott is a better goal scorer.

  69. Steve Boulds velvet glove

    Really Sukky?

    2011–2013
    Saint-Étienne 73 (35)

    2013–
    Borussia Dortmund 67 (30)

    2009–
    Gabon 39 (16)

  70. Highbury4ever

    “the number of players who can strengthen the really big teams is restricted.”

    This one’s for you, Mr LVG!! lololol

  71. bishop

    Wenger new found word for 2015 transfer window spin is COHESIVE squad .he will say it at every press conference till window closes.

    Remember when he coudnt take his mouth off mental strength??

  72. Bamford10

    Sukky & Emirates

    Yes, I focus on his weaknesses, because they are all that matter at moment. That he has some strengths — technique, flicks, hold-up play — is irrelevant, as these strengths are not enough to make him top class and not enough to make him a title-leading CF. It is his limitations that matter. No pace, no diagonal runs, no runs in behind, no dribbling. That isn’t ONE weakness; it’s several weaknesses.

    We will win nothing with Giroud as our starting CF. This is as simple and as obvious as day.

    As for Benteke — to whomever made this remark — he may not be twice the “player” Welbeck is but he is undoubtedly twice the CF. Maybe three times the CF.

    And he’s better than Giroud as well. But that ship has sailed.

  73. Sukky

    You’re right bishop,
    I still remember that mental strength thing and now it’s cohesion. The funniest thing is wenger always get away with it. He’s a very lucky man.

  74. Emiratesstroller

    Leaving aside the mixed messages that Wenger makes to media about his transfer plans there are two central themes about what he and the management also say.

    1. Arsenal are now in a financially strong position to compete with other major
    clubs in EPL and elsewhere in Europe.

    2. They are no longer sellers and are looking for upgrades on what they have
    got if they are to buy.

    Both messages tell you that if we are to compete for Titles we need the right
    players to do so, but that does not mean making wholesale changes to squad.

    I have made consistently the point that Arsenal have not sold, released or loaned a single member of squad who was registered in January, but we know
    that he will offload at least one goalkeeper most probably Ospina. We don’t
    need 4 squad goalkeepers.

    I would also suggest that one midfielder could be offloaded this summer hopefully Flamini or Rosicky. Frankly we don’t need 9 midfielders even if we
    don’t buy another CDM. The fact is that we don’t need more than 8 if you have
    duplicates for each midfield position.

    When I suggest that Arsenal will make at least one major signing it is not inconsistent with what Wenger has said. Let’s face it there are no shortage of
    players around Europe who are an upgrade of what we have got. After all
    many posters have made in last 2 months a long list of suggestions.

    What I do know is that there is probably only one player in the list of those
    bought by Manchester United, Manchester City, Chelsea and Liverpool whom
    Wenger would be remotely interested and that was Schneiderlein.

    All the rest are frankly not upgrades on what we have got already. That includes Sterling who was sold at grossly inflated price.

    When I read some of the comments about Benteke costing £35 million it makes me laugh. This player has shown absolutely nothing in 2 matches
    played against us this season.

  75. Bamford10

    If Aubamayeng has decent dribbling and hold-up play, he’s better than Theo. End of.

    I don’t know Aubamayeng’s game well, however, but I thought it a bit raw and rough-around-the-edges when I watched him early last season.

  76. Paulinho

    The ‘cohesion’ thing is bullshit as well.

    If the team is not good enough it can play together for the next century and it still won’t go beyond a certain ceiling.

    Bringing in top players improves cohesion far more than just flogging the same horse over and over again. Cohesion won’t stop Giroud constantly being caught flat footed and doing a silly grimace every time a decent through ball rolls through to the keeper because he’s too immobile.

  77. Sukky

    You’re right Bamford10, let’s talk about aguero. He’s world class but he has limitations too. He’s poor in the air, he can’t play with his back to post, hold up play is pretty poor, combination play is average but he’s pacy and clinical. The fact is he affect them in some games because they have to compliment him with another striker like Dzeko and Co. The truth is the team play to his strength. The same can’t be said about Giroud. Am not saying that Giroud is on aguero level but arsenal can do better with him.

  78. Goondawg

    Lol to claim a striker that plays for Arsenal doesnt make runs is absolute bollocks. He makes runs, just slow ones. Ive seen games where he makes diagonal runs etc, occupying the defenders attention, allowing one of our other outfield players to attack the space, sometimes leading to goals.

  79. blsany

    “If Aubamayeng has decent dribbling and hold-up play, he’s better than Theo. End of.”

    Spot on Bamford!

  80. Bamford10

    Emirates

    Your arguments against Benteke are a bit farcical. Do you know what Giroud would do against our back five if he were Villa’s starting CF?

    Absolutely nothing. Even a Lewandowski or Benzema would be unlikely to do much if they were Villa’s CF against us, as they’d be just as isolated as he was.

    Tevez, Aguero, Suarez? OK, those three might create something out of nothing.

    Judge a CF by his touches and by the chances he takes. Benteke’s touches against us were immaculate — go back and watch — but he simply had no service.

    No one — not even Liverpool — would ever pay more than 18m for Giroud or Welbeck and for good reason. Giroud, because he has neither pace nor dribbling, and Welbeck because he lacks a goal-scorer’s mentality and touch.

  81. Bamford10

    Runs made slowly are no runs at all. Runs that defenders need not worry about. What a pathetic argument.

  82. gazzap

    We’re not going to win the league with wenger in charge because hasn’t got any bollocks. He can’t make the tough decisions needed to make the difference when it matters. Sure we can play well, we can even beat any team on our day but when it comes to the crunch, wenger isn’t a winner and he doesn’t make the decisions the team needs at key moments. This is the biggest reason we won’t win the league not because we don’t have another striker or a back up DM.

  83. Sukky

    If arsenal didn’t sign anyone in the TW again I’d be fine than arsenal signing EVENS from United. What do the stupid man United take us for? Dumping ground? Welbeck is already here.

  84. Bamford10

    Sukky

    Sorry, but are you saying that Aguero has “average” hold-up play and “poor” combination play? This is plain fucking stupid and wrong. He is very good on both fronts.

    And what do you mean “we can do better” with Giroud? Better than we have? Or better than we would with a CF like Aguero? For your sake, let’s assume you’re saying the former. This may be true, but it remains irrelevant: we might play marginally better than last season, but Giroud is not good enough to lead us to a title, nor will we ever be good enough with Giroud up top to win a title or make a deep run in the CL.

    To say otherwise is simply to stick your head in the sand.

  85. blsany

    “every time a decent through ball rolls through to the keeper because he’s too immobile.”

    Than everyone can slate Ozil for not doing his job as usual.If i was likes of Sanchez and Ozil and Cazorla i’d refuse to play with him after the Monaco freak show.I think its safe to say if we had anyone even Pierre or Benteke leading the line we would have gone through.Hindsight is a wonderful thing but i thought something along those lines right after the game.

  86. Wallace

    Bamford

    “Runs made slowly are no runs at all.”

    pretty idiotic, even for you.

    a defender still has to cover the run.

  87. blsany

    “Runs made slowly are no runs at all. Runs that defenders need not worry about. What a pathetic argument.”

    Giroud ” Oi defenders i am gonna make run over there”
    Any defender ” Knock your self out i’ll give you a head start and still beat you the through ball”

    Defender wins.Giroud pulls a face.

  88. Relieable sauce

    Jack obviously isnt a DM & neither is Arteta. We only need this “fulcrum” player bollocks because our GKs & defenders have been a bit sketchy to say the least & although improvements have been made there are are still major weaknesses that effect the team greatly, imo.

    Wenger has neglected defensive positions in the past & persisted with some really average players when there was no need & it was costing us points & trophies.

    This behaviour shouldnt have been allowed & shouldnt happen again but I’m not sure anyone cares enough to do whats needed to address this problem, considering last season we were so short at CB & DM.

    Contracts for Arteta(65k?) & Flamini (65k)… I mean wtf is making these decisions?
    could they possibly have a history of such inefficiency & poor judgement.
    Time for some fucking accountability.

  89. El Patron

    You guys jump on every dumb nonsense Gambon spews and runs with it.

    Wenger has always spoke about cohesion….

    the stadium was a necessity and youth policy was a consequence of it.

    FFP was not his doing. so what if he is a stickler for compliance. FFP has caused quite a few teams grief.

    So has home grown rules. etc.

    He is stressing cohesion at the moment… so what. doesnt mean he won’t buy big names.

    FFS… the man can’t win. you screamed for him to spend money and bring in big players and 3 years in a row you got Ozil, sanchez and Cech…. you won two trophies and you still moan. for christ sake.

    The drought is over and he is signing big names…. isnt that what we wanted?

    I know the pedantic come backs about winning champions league and prem…. that will come… relax and give the man a break.

  90. Sukky

    Giroud is slow but that he doesn’t make runs? That’s wrong. Goal against United at home, 2nd goal against Brighton in his first season in the FA cup, Poldi first goal against Liverpool, Goal against OM at home etc proved Giroud’s great dummy and diagonal runs.

  91. Goondawg

    Also Giroud is capable of dribbling, this is like claiming Ozil cant do kick feints, just because they may be instructed to do otherwise. Giroud has pretty nifty footwork for a big guy, he isnt however going to weave in and out of 4 players if thats what you meant by dribbling. He’s no fucking messi in that sense.

    Yes his pace and somewhat his dribbling are his limitations, but people forget how integral he is to the way we play. His hold-up play is world class. And his ability to bring his team mates involves, in that sense his team-play is very important to the way we play. If we buy a striker with pace and dribbling, we would probably play a different system and a different way.

    We do need a different type of striker for different situations, that can create for themselves, and has pace and dribbling, but we would probably lose out in the whole team play that Giroud offers us. If Welbeck, Oxlade and Walcott pulled their socks up and started scoring frequently, in addition to the goals that Giroud and Sanchez bring, then that does bring us closer to the title.

    We didnt lose out last year because our attack was weak. More the case of defensive lapses led us to dropped points, which significantly improved when Coquelin came into the team.

  92. El Patron

    And the window closes at September 1…. it frikkin July and constant moaning. you are like women in here.

    If that date comes and a striker or a DM doesnt come in…. attack on Arsene is fair game… hell I will participate.

  93. TitsMcGee

    The drought is over and he is signing big names…. isnt that what we wanted?”

    What drought?

    Two FA Cups vs Hull and Aston Villa.

    Got 1 point of 6 v UTD.
    Got 1 point of 6 v Chelsea.

    Had a pretty decent season by our standards and still came in 3rd.

    That is NOT the goal.

  94. Bamford10

    NiNe

    Well aware of that. That’s not my argument. Benteke is a more highly rated CF than those two for good reason/s.

  95. Goondawg

    “Giroud is slow but that he doesn’t make runs? That’s wrong. Goal against United at home, 2nd goal against Brighton in his first season in the FA cup, Poldi first goal against Liverpool, Goal against OM at home etc proved Giroud’s great dummy and diagonal runs.”

    Lol according to Bamford these runs dont count because slow runs are no runs. So fucking dumb

  96. Sukky

    First thing you should know about me. Unlike many arsenal fans, am not expecting more than a good run in the FA cup this season no matter who we sign because WENGER is still the manager.

  97. El Patron

    TitsMcGee

    the 10 year drought of Zero major trophies… and last time I checked… their are 4 major domestic trophies.

    You guys can try and demean FA cup as much as you would like. It is a major trophy.

    …..and it doesnt mean not a damn thing who the final was against.

    it seems you guys have shallow memories. Like we didnt have to beat united away to get to the final.

    at every turn you guys try to down play the achievements of Arsenal for what reason I am still yet to understand. I thought you were fans.

  98. Bamford10

    Foxy and Wallace

    Maybe the two dumbest posters who have ever turned up here. I think they’ve taken my statement ABSOLUTELY LITERALLY. Jesus, gents, you should do something else with your time, as anything requiring even a modicum of intelligence/literacy is beyond you.

    Blsany got my point. Just look at his satire above.

  99. Bamford10

    El Patron

    “hell I will participate”

    No, you won’t. You’ll tell us any number of things, e.g., the right players weren’t available, the market was too steep, Giroud and Coquelin are good enough, wait till January to see how the team gels, etc.

    Guarantee it. We have been hearing this same bullshit for years now.

  100. TitsMcGee

    You guys can try and demean FA cup as much as you would like. It is a major trophy.…..and it doesnt mean not a damn thing who the final was against.”

    You can try and prop it up all you want but it’s only just above the Capital One cup.

    It’s the best we can hope for under Wenger so nobody is “upset” we won it but Wigan won the FA Cup three seasons ago so and then were promptly relegated from the EPL so let’s not act like it takes a great team to win it.

    …and that is the point. The FA Cup is ZERO indicator that we have made HUGE strides. Zero. Some strides? Maybe.

    The EPL is a far better indicator and we still finished EXACTLY where we have been finishing the last 10 years and unless Wenger adds to CECH it is EXACTLY where we will finish again. Then we will hope to meet another bottome feeder in the FA Cup final to prop up your “improvement” philosophy.

    That is why people “complain”. Don’t muddle the issue.

  101. Goondawg

    “Guarantee it. We have been hearing this same bullshit for years now.”

    Lol because your tedious posts bring so much ingenuity to the table… Fucking lolz.

  102. foxy

    bamford

    I didn’t take it literally you fuktard. But to say runs made slowly are no runs at all and are pointless is clearly a brain dead comment. If giroud was making a slow run in order to preoccupy a defender away and therefore open up space for theo to run in behind and onto a through ball would that be meaningless?

    You are a mong.

  103. TitsMcGee

    No, you won’t. You’ll tell us any number of things, e.g., the right players weren’t available, the market was too steep, Giroud and Coquelin are good enough, wait till January to see how the team gels, etc.”

    LOL

    True

  104. Bamford10

    El Patron

    The FA Cup is certainly a valuable trophy, but is it as big or important as the EPL or CL title? Just curious.

    If the CL title is worth, say, 97/100 points in terms of prestige — we’ll say one has to win multiple trophies to earn 100/100 — and the EPL title is a 94/100 (my quick and dirty estimation), what would you rate the FA Cup?

    Genuinely curious.

    Perhaps others could chime in as well.

    I’d say that if the two above are 97/100 and 94/100 respectively, then the FA Cup is an 89/100. Just my view.

  105. YoungMurphy

    Peeps don’t be bitter about the ticket giveaway. If anything I am gutted because I didnt even know it would be announced on Twitter and stupidly thought it would be on LG!

    I think most people want that DM and CF but I was reading an article in the Telegraph basically saying that the season we went undefeated Jens was our only signing. We are legit 2 deep at every position.

    Now does that mean we shouldn’t improve where we have the chance? Not at all, but taking the CF example, AW highly rates Chuba and wants to give him his chance. If we buy another striker on a 4 year deal, Chuba is going to get stunted in some way, just by not getting the necessary gametime.

    As I see it, always good to top up the squad but there is a reason Liverpool buying 6-7 players. If they had a better squad, that type of surgery wouldn’t be needed!

  106. Sukky

    When you work for others, it will take time before you’re appreciated. What I learn from Giroud is you have to be very selfish to be a great striker. Working for other won’t get you the golden boot.

  107. Bamford10

    Goondawg

    One, I actually say a good variety of things. Two, with respect to my recurring themes, I happen to be correct on these points and the situations have yet to be corrected or improved. Thus it would seem necessary to continue reiterating the themes, yes? Yes. Especially when your ilk have no genuine rebuttals.

  108. Ozy

    Let me make an incredibly stupid comment but when people start calling it out for being stupid, I’ll say it wasn’t literal and offer no further explanation as to what then was the point of it.