3 points tomorrow closes down Wenger excuses

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Arsene Wenger want to win tomorrow.

He wants to win so we don’t have to go through the ball ache of a horrible qualifier.

Last year, we had to go to Turkey without our best players.

“Last year, for example, we played against Besiktas without Mesut Ozil and Per Mertesacker, because they were on their holidays.

“But at the moment we are focused on finishing as high as we can and finishing the season well. After that we will deal with the consequences.

“We know we are in the top four. We know we can do better. So let’s go for it.”

This year, if we finish fourth, we’d have to go without Sanchez. No one needs that type of headache.

It’s important we win tomorrow so we can show the league we’re made of stronger stuff. It’s also important, because it closes down the excuse of ‘we haven’t bought players because of Champions League qualification’.

I do hope we’re going to have a positive summer of transfers. United are already ploughing away bringing in new names, hopefully we’re working on things in the background as well. Juventus have signed Dybala already, really upsetting news.

I’m still not sure how we’re going to play against United. They’ve given us a big boost by declaring Wayne Rooney and Luke Shaw unfit. Robin is available, but he’s not the Robin of old. Which is good. I’d love to keep him quiet all game.

United currently sit two points behind us, but we have a game in hand. We have to hope City trip up, because it’s unlikely we’re going to be able to make up the 9 goals we need to add to beat them for goal difference.

More from me tomorrow, have a grand Saturday!

 

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  1. Chris d

    Johnty

    That final was great for looserpool but it’s a myth created by the English media so that it would seem the great Englishman changed the course of that game but the truth is ( backed by their manager) that the tactical change at half time bringing on hamann ( I think it was him ) changed the outcome of that game

  2. Byo

    Cech- I really am trying to understand this obsession. Why a guy who cannot get a game at Chelsea is who some(or most) here think should be our No 1. I would have wished for him 3 years ago!

    I’m not sure anyone here thought Wenger was going for Alexis, Ozil or Gabriel in the last 2 transfer windows.
    I guess the point I’m making- Pure waste of time postulating on transfer targets. No one here has the information the club has.

  3. Rosicky@Arsenal

    Byo

    Well said.
    People here have no idea about transfer targets.They simply waste there times while making pure guess work.

  4. Arsene's Nurse

    Just got in from a 14 mile walk, I’ve sat down with a beer and my knees are really aching, but not as much as my sides!

    Just seen the result of Stevie Me’s last home game for Liverpool. Priceless.

  5. daz

    El I don’t think that will help they have tried new managers how many times now? Still haven’t progressed in 25years

  6. Wallace

    “Just got in from a 14 mile walk, I’ve sat down with a beer and my knees are really aching, but not as much as my sides!”

    😉 i remember his first few games under Houllier(?). looked a hell of a player then and he’s pretty much shown that throughout his career. one of the greats. shame he never played for a decent side.

  7. Redtruth

    Liverpool have won more trophies than Arsenal since Wenger has been at the club so that counts out Arsenal as one of the decent sides Gerrard could have played for.

  8. london gunner

    Great comment on Gerrard from BBC website

    “Obviously a great player.But, puzzling how staying at one club for whole career can ever be perceived as laudable. Surely it suggests lack of imagination and extreme regionalism.Didn’t SG ever imagine what it might be like to play abroad/elsewhere in England with better players ? Big fish,little-pond scenario.Look what Bale’s done,THAT’S impressive.Legacy more impressive if SG tried smthng new”

    Hundred percent agree on this I will always respect someone like Bale more than Gerrard for taking that leap/risk and going somewhere new and somewhere with far more pressure and expectations.

  9. Bigper

    Personally I think showing loyalty to a club/those you love shows a lot more character and deserves more respect than someone who leaves for their own personal gain, whatever that may be, in football or in life in general

  10. BacaryisGod

    Red Truth

    Wrong about the trophies. If you exclude the one-match trophies like the Community Shield etc from the trophy list then Gerrard has 7 and Arsene has 8, and potentially 9 of we beat Villa.

    Facts are pesky little things, aren’t they?

  11. Redtruth

    Liverpool

    FA Cup-2001, 2006
    League Cup-2001, 2003, 2012
    Champions League-2005
    Uefa Cup-2001
    Super Cup-2001, 2005

    Arsenal

    Premier League-1998, 2002, 2004
    FA Cup-1998, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2014.

  12. daz

    Redtruth, supercup charity shield can’t see the difference between the two so if you include super cup then add the 5 charity shields Wenger has won

  13. bennydevito

    Scouse Mafia was apparently the real reason he didn’t leave Liverpool, according to some reports at the time. Threatened his family and all sorts.

  14. daz

    Yeah I’m sure it is lol, but that’s a different conversation you were talking amount of trophies not which ones better so if you include super cup then in interest of fairness I think charity shield should also be included

  15. Wallace

    the time he might have left was also the time – under Benitez – when they looked like they might become a real force again. i’d imagine captaining your local team to the PL title must be quite something.

  16. El Tel 1

    If. We had played in the Eufa cup our total might be better.

    Judge how many PL titles and CL matches the teams have played in.

    Liverpool way behind

  17. Redtruth

    Liverpool have played in far far fewer Champions League matches yet have won and contested two Champions League Finals to Arsenal’s paltry one Final.

  18. daz

    Redtruth

    Guess you got me, it was only a matter of time before I bent over lol lol lol lol lol lol ha ha ha lol lol lol lol loooooollllll

  19. Joe

    Ha

    Judge how many CL games they have played in

    Hahaha.

    Fuck me.

    I’d rather only have played one season in the CL and won it than wengers diabolical record of 0 for 18 and getting knocked out in the round of 16 for last 5. How impressive is that.

    4th place not so long ago meant nothing until CL money got involved.

  20. Redtruth

    The debate surrounding Arsene Wenger’s job at Arsenal continues to rumble on among the fan-base but few can deny that our most successful manager did remarkably well during our most sensitive period.

    As we moved to the Emirates Stadium, maintaining our Champions League status was vital, with the prize money from the competition one of our main sources of revenue.

    Another source was through player sales (via BBC Sport) and so we witnessed the departures of Robin van Persie, Cesc Fabregas, Samir Nasri – and the list could go on.

    For Wenger to therefore replace those players using a fraction of the transfer fees he received shows how sensational the achievement was.

    Especially when clubs such as Liverpool and Manchester United are spending over £100m each (via The Guardian) and are either scraping into, or completely missing out on, the Champions League.

    Having said that, it is no secret that we’ve now entered the lucrative phase of our development, whereby the club can sanction the signings of Alexis Sanchez and Mesut Ozil, who cost a combined fee of £77m (via The Independent), and still comfortably churn out a profit (via The Evening Standard).

    Despite the upturn in finances and the calibre of players we now have at the club, our steady league position has barely improved as we’re still fighting to secure automatic Champions League football.

    Analysing our rivals and giggling at their troubles is fun, but stagnation in the Premier League only leads to one thing – regression. Ask Newcastle United.

    Latest figures show that we recorded a net spend of £160.7m during the course of the season and through calculations where that figure has been divided by our current points total, each one of our points is worth £2.295m.

    It means that after Manuel Pellegrini and Louis van Gaal, Wenger is the least productive with the finances available to him. A complete sea change to where he would’ve been positioned had this list been constructed a few years ago.

    The tone from board-room level has shifted too and their calculation arguably mirror those made in theDaily Mail. Ivan Gazidis recently said that a second place finish and another FA Cup win would not satisfy him (via the Daily Mail) and while it may sound rather dismissive, our chief executive is obviously speaking from a financial standpoint and making a judgement based on our outlay during the season.

    There could be a number of conclusions, and objections, to be drawn from such analysis but one thing Wenger must address this summer is buying players capable of strengthening our first XI.
    Check the full list below.

  21. Wallace

    “I have not given the team a winning mentality yet because we are not champions and I think that is a quality of the champions. We have improved lot, but we have to learn to do what Chelsea have done in the way they can play and finish the games – that is the big difference now between us and them.

    “I think Arsenal maybe have a better team but they cannot finish off opponents like Chelsea. That is also about talent and experience like John Terry and Gary Cahill. That is the difference.”

    – Louis van Gaal

  22. El Tel 1

    I tell you what Joe, even better.

    Ask Villa or Forest fans your question.

    Of course it hurts that we haven’t won the CL and you are right Wengers record is appalling.

    It is still good to be in it every year though rather than not.

  23. daz

    Rollen

    1 I’m no akb
    2 I can not be trolled I laugh in the face of trolls I tell you
    3 i simply pointed out the super cup is as worthless as the charity shield
    4 its only a matter of time before a headless chicken score a brace lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lllllooooooooollll

  24. northern gooner

    Daz

    You must laugh a lot on here.

    Getting to the point were the trolls outweigh the genuine posters.

  25. Socrates

    Surprised after so many years this mythical fan “AKB” is still being peddled around here. Often used when someone gets tired of thinking or cannot accept a different opinion.

    For example, if you think my statement above is wrong, well….then you know what you are!

  26. daz

    NG I sure do they just so full of joy ha,
    SOC yeah you are not allowed to appreciate anything Wenger has done without it meaning you think he knows best

  27. bennydevito

    BAmford,

    Wouldn’t it be brilliant if that story was true? However there’s no quotes or any substance to that article at all. Some of the other metro stories are a bit juicy though.

    Juventus deny done deal with Dybala

    Pogba hands in transfer request and Wenger wants him

    Dybala and pogba would be enough for me

    Get it done Wenger, no more fannying about!

  28. mysticleaves

    Why haven’t anyone thought of Carlos Bacca of Seville as a striker we can sign? And that, with time, would improve our team? He’s got technique, nimble, fast and can score goals (about 75 in his last 3 seasons??). Surely would be better than Dybala, Lazacette and Benteke IMO

  29. Bamford10

    Looks like Everton have made 10m offer for the Van Dijk, the young Dutch CB at Celtic. This guy is a talent, IMO.

  30. Silverhawk

    Mystic.. I guess it’s because he’s getting old.. He should be 28 or so.. And arsenal’s philosophy of recent is to buy relatively young talented players.

  31. mysticleaves

    Bamford surely our defence is set for the next two years. Mert/Gab will alternate next year after which Mert will sit for him and we expect Chambers to be ready to start the season after next.

    We can be improved upon, no doubt but surely not Van Dijk. (I know you aren’t asking for us to buy him anyway)

    What do you think of Bacca? Do you rate him?

  32. Bamford10

    Mystic

    Yes, you’re probably right, but I think Van Dijk is better than either Paulista or Chambers. Was calling for him last summer. We’ll see how he does in EPL.

    Don’t really know Bacca, but if he’s 28, there’s little point. We do need better than Giroud, though.

  33. mysticleaves

    Silverhawk
    Oh fuck me! I thought he was 25 years. I doubt Arsene would even look at him. How old was Giroud when he signed?

  34. qna

    Bamford. I hope that story is true too. It mentions Theo Walcott, Tomas Rosicky, Abou Diaby, Mathieu Flamini, Joel Campbell, Carl Jenkinson, Ryo Miyaichi and captain Mikel Arteta.

    Worryingly, they omitted Podolski and Sonogo. So if all is right with the world, we should be clearing ten.

    More and more people are suggesting that we will only buy one marquee player and any other buys will be around that 10-16m sweet spot that we like. The metro article mentions Pogba and Cavani, who would of course be great – but I doubt Pogba will choose us with the options he will have.

    Of the Marquee players possibly on offer (Pogba, Benzema, Cavani, Bale), I think Gareth Bale would be the one player who could make the most difference to us. He would complete our front three. He is also home grown, so we could cull one of our poor performing home grown players, either this year or next. Chelsea and City are balancing FFP, while United have already bought one winger this summer and are pretty well stocked in this department, so we really should be in for him.

    Bale & Kongdogbia would be a decent summer. We would still be unlikely winners, but we should be able to noticeably improve upon ourselves from this year and last.

  35. MadeToLoveMagic

    We should in no way get rid of Rosicky, unless he wants out..

    Having someone of his quality in the squad cannot be underestimated

    Saying that though im sure he’ll want out,,

    Annoyingh though caus wenger could have used him more, certainly would have preferred him on the right to Rambo

  36. Bamford10

    QNA

    Yeah, while Bale is obviously a very good player, I don’t think he makes sense for us at all, especially if Giroud remains our CF.

  37. qna

    Sanchez-Giroud-Bale

    Bamford. You dont think that would work? I dont see why not. Of course Giroud would be the weakness in that front 3, but given his age, we could look to buy a CF next summer.

    Bale is made for the PL as well. I think he would be really motivated to do well and prove a point after the way he was treated by Madrid. I keep harping on about us following Chelsea and City and only having 2 or 3 top top British players in our squad in order to compete with them. Bale fits this description as well. He could be a future captain of our club. And at 25 he is coming into his peak years now. Of course Pogba would be the sexier signing, but I think its a 3 or 4 way battle for Bale and our circumstances are pretty good as he fills exactly the position we need with Welbeck and Walcott firing blanks.

  38. Marko

    No way Van Dijk or whatever his name is is better than Gabriel. The lads a good prospect for sure but I wouldn’t pay much heed to someone playing in Scotland. You’ll see no defender coming in till Mertesacker leaves or becomes so blatantly awful he needs replacing or someone like Kurzawa becomes available and as a long term target we couldn’t say no

  39. Marko

    I don’t know where the Bale stuff comes from. If we’re interested in anyone there it’d be Isco or Benzema. Bale way too expensive

  40. gunnergetyou

    “We should in no way get rid of Rosicky, unless he wants out..”

    There’s no way we should be keeping a 35 year old imo. If he can hardly get a game for us this season I don’t see how he should be part of our plans next season if we’re serious about improving.

  41. mysticleaves

    There’s more chance of UEFA granting Arsenal a UCL 2nd round first league replay against Monaco than Bale coming to Arsenal. I wouldn’t mind him though, but just won’t happen. But as I have said countless times, Reus over any winger that is not Neymar!

    MTLM
    I believe we should keep Rosicky……and also Arteta. They are still good players and can do a job when needed. Though Rossa wants to catch up on his injured years so I don’t see him hanging around.