St Totts day nears…

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Hull City this evening. Excellent news. I do wish miserable Arsenal fans would stop moaning that there’s a 16 point gap at the top of the league. We have 2 games in hand over

We have to win those two games. But now City are pulling away in second, there really is a fight on to make up the ground.

This season has represented progress. I have no idea why so many people are in denial about that. If we finish second and we win the FA Cup, that’s a big leap from last year. We’ve tackled injuries, we’ve tackled big game tactics and we have the most balanced side we’ve seen in years.

However, the season isn’t over. There’s still a big fight on this evening in Hull. We still have to turn up against the little teams.

They’ll be fired up and confident after beating Liverpool. If we’re not on our game, we could end up with some serious egg on our faces. No one needs that. Not on a bank holiday Monday.

I think the side probably picks itself at the moment. I feel like this could be a good game to bring Theo into the fold. It’s important to make sure our players are fresh for the FA Cup final and I think it’s important some of the fringe players feel comfortable and loved… because if there’s a big injury, you need them coming back into the frame in a solid state of mind.

I’d like to see WELBZ given a run out, show his mettle. He’s been a bit of a weird one. On the face of it, I’m not disappointed about his offering this year. I think he has a lot of talent. However, his productivity scores, are, well, very Welbeckesque. He’s either going to break into the next level of striker next year, or he’s going to sink in oblivion and irrelevance.

Good to hear Arsene Wenger talking down the work we’ll be doing in the summer. He’s talking about bringing the loan boys back into the fold. I’m not sure what to make of those comments. All the loan players are bombing at a the moment. Sanogo can’t get a start, the rest haven’t contributed much in the way of goals. I’d imagine we’ll be selling them on this summer.

We just need to focus on the middle of the park and potentially replacing Theo Walcott. I don’t think we need major surgery. We have a very big squad of players. We just need to add elite quality in the middle of the park. I’d like a new keeper, but I can’t see it happening unless he moves on Chezzer… but he won’t move on Chezzer if he’s on £90k a week like its rumoured. That boy will be sitting on the bench for a very long time if that’s the case.

Chelsea landed the league yesterday. Can’t know Jose. He came he saw he conquered… yet again. It was so easy for him this  year. Unbelievable work. I don’t like how they play, but I like how they just get the job done. Hats off and all that…

It’s also St Totts day this evening… well, if we get anymore than a point. They’ve been a bit quiet, haven’t they? Impressively easy this year. I do like their manager though, I think he’ll come good. So we need to make sure we’re always progressing.

Right, that’s me done. Have a bloody great day!

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  1. lemonadethatcoolrefeshingdrink

    He’s talking about bringing the loan boys back into the fold. I’m not sure what to make of those comments.

    yeah so he doesnt have to spend – its the same old same old fucking bullshit from the messiah who hasnt won anything of note since 2004 yet still pulls his what is it? 8 million pound salary and Supporters pay the most inflated ticket prices.

    Chelsea or Man City Champs next year – us 3rd, 4th maybe a cup run, last 16 of the CL

    do you ever get the feeling you have been here before?

    AW salary
    makes you wanna puke
    Annual: GBP 8.475.000,00
    Monthly: GBP 706.250,00
    Weekly: GBP 169.500,00
    Daily: GBP 33.900,00

  2. Ashwin Gunner

    Good post.

    We need to take our dead wood from the books this year. it should be another clean up like last year. Diaby should be the first to leave. Even if he proves his fitness now, his wages are too high for the risk we are taking. Same thing for Arteta. He has lost pace. he can be kept for his coaching badges. Dont want to see him anywhere near first team. Would not love to See Theo leave. He brings pace to the team. i would like him to stay and improve.

  3. Marko

    I’d say the only one who could maybe stay is Campbell everyone else on loan is either off or on loan again. I’m still hopeful Arteta is off too. Rosicky is probably the only one I’d think of keeping fringe players wise

  4. Wallace

    Gregg

    “Mate are you saying you wouldn’t take Aguero then? again it’s the balance but pace and movement up front is what troubles defenders.”

    i agree, but i think it’s important to realise just how small our first eleven is when you take Giroud out. and to remember just how shocking we were at defending set pieces pre-Giroud & BFG.

  5. Bamford10

    Pedro

    “Good to hear Arsene Wenger talking down the work we’ll be doing in the summer.”

    What the f*** are you talking about? Who has kidnapped Pedro? How could you possibly be rooting for a quiet summer? This squad is not good enough to win the title. Nor is it even close to good enough to compete for the CL. Not even close.

    Incredibly disappointing, Pedro. I’m almost speechless. Sheer silliness to think we’re basically good enough as is. We’re not.

  6. London gunner

    Wallace

    Lacazette’s 5’8. Sanchez is 5’7, Ox is 5’9″ They might not be tall but all those players are extremely muscular and powerful.It’s less about height and more about body type.Look at coq 5’10 but wins most of his duels both on the ground and in the air

  7. Marko

    Bamford relax. We won’t be overhauling things but 2/3 minimum is what’s expected. DM and a forward/ST. After that if Walcott/Wilshere/Chesney leavesthey’ll be replaced

  8. qna

    Lemonade. Yep its groundhog day. We will go another 10 years without winning the league. We are exactly where the owners want us to be. Soon the PL wont have 4 places in the CL. Cant see how we can stay competative with the big 3. Spursday night football in our near future.

    Will be interesting to see how the fans look back at this moment in time and think how it could have been if we splashed some genuine cash in these few years.

    Cant see why any multi national would look at us and say, we must be their sponsor. They will go with the clubs that have the big players and who are likely to have the big players in the future. More disapointment to follow.

  9. Bamford10

    Not to mention that there are taller CFs who are also mobile. Wallace called Lewandowski, Benzema and Costa big “lumps” like Giroud this morning — as if these players are just as immobile as Giroud.

    Not at all. All of these players are more mobile than Giroud.

    This is like saying RVP was a “lump”. No, he wasn’t. He was mobile, could make diagonal runs, pull CBs out of position, could beat players off the dribble, etc.

    Giroud cannot, because he is a genuine “lump”.

  10. Thomas

    A good run of form at the end of the season and we suddenly don’t need to do much in the summer lolololol so typical. When is Wenger going to learn?

  11. London gunner

    Pedro

    Has either gone full reetard or sold out.

    How could a quiet summer possibly be a good thing. We are miles off the quality and rdepth of Chelsea.

    We need a wc or potential wc lw or striker, a wc cm and a wc keeper

    Also fuck the British core its not even close to being good enough

  12. Bamford10

    Marko

    Pedro’s comment is bizarre — indeed, borderline trolling. No one is calling for an “overhaul,” but any Arsenal supporter who says he is HAPPY to hear that Wenger will likely do little this summer is either delusional or on the take.

    When has signing too many players ever been our problem? Never. Has overestimating our existing squad been a problem? Yes. Is Pedro doing that right now? Yes.

    Will this squad win the EPL next year? No. They won’t. Will they compete for the CL? No. Not even close.

    Why, then, would anyone be complacent about this summer? Sorry, but Pedro’s complacency is outrageous.

  13. Wallace

    london gunner

    ok, so you replace Giroud with Lacazette, and next time we face Chelsea or QPR or Stoke, teams with 4/5 players well over 6’0 who picks up the others once Mertesacker locks onto his man?

    Koscielny’s probably our best header of a ball alongside Giroud, but he’s only 6’0. Ospina’s probably 5’11, and the rest of the team would be 5’9 and under. corners and free kicks would be a nightmare.

  14. Ashwin Gunner

    Are we really talking Aguero vs Giroud. There is no comparison. Aguero is the best in the world. He is better than Suarez. Never seen Aguero diving or even donig a cry baby act. He is strong and committed. One of the best Strikers in the world.

  15. Highbury4ever

    “This squad is not good enough to win the title. Nor is it even close to good enough to compete for the CL. Not even close.”

    We are NOW!!
    In pedro you don’t trust ??lol

  16. Arsene's Nurse

    Senior players currently on loan and when their contract ends:

    Podolski———— 30.06.2016
    Jenkinson———- 30.06.2018
    Sanogo————– 30.06.2017
    Campbell———– 30.06.2016
    Akpom————– 30.06.2019
    Ryo Miyaichi—— 30.06.2016
    Martinez———— 30.06.2015

    Akpom will stay. The rest are surplus to requirements although an argument for Campbell to stay can be made. The problem is Wenger. He’ll have his favourites and we all know that means Sanogo will stay.

    Diaby and Flamini are out of contract at the end of June this year so that is another 2 who can go although I fully expect Wenger to offer Diaby some ludicrous pay as you play deal whereby he doesn’t play and is just the equivalent of a plastic dummy to train the medical staff on.

    Arteta will stay for a year as a thank you to him, but I think Rosicky will leave – such a shame.

    Plenty of dead wood to remove and loads of money in the bank to spend on top class players.

  17. Wallace

    Bamford

    by ‘lumps’ i meant big guys. players who can play the lone striker role. RVP was a far more skillful player than Giroud, but a silky left foot’s not much use when you’re defending a corner. my point is Giroud brings a lot more to the side than just goals.

  18. Bamford10

    Actually, “complacency” isn’t even the right word. Pedro is going farther than this. He is actually cheering on a quiet summer. This is simply insane.

  19. shad

    I wouldn’t fret too much on the double speak by Wenger – because that is exactly what it is. He’s talk of us not rebuilding much is negated by saying we will have returning loanees to help us push for the title.
    Basically he is being diplomatic in his eating of humble pie and accepting that he spent a lot of money on dross and that the squad is bloated. Chelsea have cantered to the title with a lean, mean well oiled machine.
    If we can keep the fitness on the up and up, we can get rid of a good number of players and buffer just 3 key positions (GK, DM, ST).
    But we all know Wenger’s love affair for Sir-no-goal and Arteta..

  20. Bamford10

    Wallace

    “Lump” means big and IMMOBILE, which is true only of Giroud, not of those others.

  21. Keyser

    “Basically he is being diplomatic in his eating of humble pie and accepting that he spent a lot of money on dross and that the squad is bloated. ”

    Shad – Eh ?

  22. Wallace

    Ashwin

    “Are we really talking Aguero vs Giroud.”

    no, we weren’t. i was just pointing out that we’re quite a small side, and replacing Giroud with someone like Lacazette might make us more mobile, but would also leave us very vulnerable to being bullied and overpowered. unless we sign 2 or 3 bigger players in other areas of the side we need a big guy up top. and for my money Giroud’s as good as anyone we would have a realistic chance of getting.

  23. Keyser

    I’m not really bothered if Pedro believes what he says or doesn’t, but if it means Bamford gets a taste of the crap he’s been leaving on the blog on almost a daily basis for the last year then I’m all for it.

  24. Thomas

    We’re not even close to winning the league, all the other teams will strengthen, Arsenal do little business and we’re supposed to compete next season? Haha.

  25. Wallace

    Bamford

    ““Lump” means big and IMMOBILE, which is true only of Giroud, not of those others.”

    apologies, i’ll try harder to be more precise in future.

  26. Bamford10

    Typically meaningless commentary from Keyser.

    How is celebrating a quiet summer comparable to calling for improvements to a perennial also-ran squad? It’s not.

    Fine, have your quiet summer; we’ll finish third or fourth in the EPL next year and exit the CL in the 16.

    Fucking insanity!

  27. shad

    And fine, the marginal progress is there but we as fans shouldn’t allow Wenger to go ahead with a deficient squad especially if he wins the FA cup and gets 2nd. The only way is up. We need a team that can compete on all fronts and give it a real go.

    The ideal though would be if Wenger left but I’ll just wear my tin hat now..

  28. Arsene's Nurse

    We should be buying at least £80m worth of players in the summer just to keep up with the top 3. We need a GK, DM and CF minimum. Easily doable.

  29. Keyser

    Lol No, it’s just your complete lack of any understanding and just unrelenting bullshit.

    You’re going to repeat the same bollocks regardless, we haven’t finished the seasons yet, we don’t even know if we’ll beat Hull today, and then there’s the FA Cup aswell.

  30. shad

    Keyser,

    Wenger is an arrogant, senile man. He isn’t going to accept that a good number of his signings were poor., he was tactically naive before and he mismanaged players in the “redzone” (still does).

    Can you not see that?

  31. London gunner

    We are acting as if our rivals won’t stregthen

    United certainly will and they are a few players away from an awesome te.

    Chelsea might not buy many players, but xpect zouma and cudradro to bed in and have more of an impact

    City will have a significant revamp.

    We can’t afford to have a quiet summer as it simply wouldn’t be enough our rivals aren’t going to
    Purposely regress or stay the same level they will be lopoint at improving as should we.

  32. Keyser

    shad – A good number ? Based on what ? You honestly think we’ve spent less well than our competitors ?

    It’s like the people who used to go on about injuries, who are now saying ‘Well maybe Shad has had an impact’ when the simplest explanation is we’ve spent money and now have a deeper squad, with no real major injuries.

    I’ve read peoples thoughts on tactics here, most are clueless, I’d love you to even try to that prove that wrong.

  33. Bamford10

    You have to love how some here contradict themselves: on one hand they tell us that Mourinho only wins the league because he spends more than us and others; on the other hand, they tell us that we need not spend much this summer in order to compete with the best in the world.

    Well, which is it? Can we compete with Chelsea, City, and United — not to mention Madrid, Barca, and Bayern — without much spending? Or is spending on better players and continual squad improvement the only way to compete with the best?

    The latter is so obviously the correct answer that to ask the question is to answer it.

  34. London gunner

    People seem to act as if we are one point of Chelsea when we are 10 points which is a pretty significant gap.

    Chelsea won’t get worse but better. We need an extra 15 points Thats an extra 5 wins to do this we need a substantial improvement in the first 11

  35. Bamford10

    What? What does our not having beaten Hull or won the FA Cup yet have to do with anything? My point is that we’re not good enough — even if we do those things. I’m assuming the best, but you’re right, we may not even finish as well as we currently look set to.

  36. Uwot?

    The telegraph tossers have manure ’99 down as the all time no 1 prem side can you f******* Adam & Eve it?hate us so much,surprised they even put the invincibles as second.w******s!

  37. David Smith

    Wenger is many things but he certainly is not senile, he was smart enough to hijack one of the biggest clubs on earth and use it as a laboratory for his own ideas. Wenger is opinionated, dogmatic, perhaps over principled, stubborn, resistant to change, optimistic, at times preoccupied with details that should not concern a head coach, at times deluded, over loyal to under achievers, but he certainly has his faculties about him, in fact he is probably one of the smartest managers out there. The sad thing is, he is a decent manager, you don’t do what he has done without being just that, he just let a few of his defining characteristics get in the way of that in the second half of his tenure, that and stadium payments and doped clubs of course. But it just seems some of the decent manager side has gone to waste a bit.

  38. Keyser

    Another typical Bamshit post.

    Those teams have more money than us, to spend like they do would get us nowhere.

    So two things can work in our favour.

    – We spend more efficiently then they do.
    – FFP has some sort of effect.

    Both of the above have had some effect this past year, but what should be glaringly obvious even to simpletons like Bamford is that we’re miles off the resources they have, so we have to explore every facet.

  39. Wallace

    london

    “We are acting as if our rivals won’t strengthen ”

    but as the last few summers have shown, buying a lot of new players doesn’t always equal a better side. see Spurs, Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City…

    i think you can reasonably expect improvement from Ospina, Bellerin, Gabriel, Chambers, Coquelin, Ramsey, Ozil, Ox, Welbeck, Akpom and Gnabry next season. that’s 11 players. we’re not an old side like City, there’s still a lot of room for growth.

  40. shad

    @Keyser,

    We have spent less well. Don’t be fooled by quantity and Wenger’s socialist wage structure. The truth is we spend less money but we get just that – average players which translate to some games slipping away because average players seem to hit that glass ceiling. (remember us fielding Sanogo v Bayern Munich last year?)

    Chelsea have had similar injuries to key players but have won the league with games to spare and have been comfortable through out. Their net spend is more, but that’s what Maureen just does – he get what he needs.

    We, on the other hand, have bought players who, credit to them have played really well in this calendar year – but there are no trophies for that are there? The emergence of some of the fringe players who are now key to us (Bellerin, Coq, Monreal) have made the team look more bloated than usual – but truth is we were all complaining of the lack of quality especially in the core before the season began.

  41. Keyser

    shad – “(remember us fielding Sanogo v Bayern Munich last year?)”

    This sums up your post.

    Chelsea spent 50 million on Torres, he’s now seeing out his contract on loan.
    United gave Nani a new 5 year contract, he’s on loan at Sporting.
    Liverpool need strikers, they let Lille hang onto Origi.
    Citeh, well they’re just nuts, they were paying Adebayor a 100k a week to play for Tottenham, not to mention Negredo.

    But you use Sanogo starting against Bayern as some sort of example ? Of what exactly ?

    People will complain regardless, honestly mate you haven’t put forward a very convincing argument here.

  42. Relieable sauce

    Offering Diaby a new contract cannot be justified in any sane persons mind.
    If Wenger tries it Ivan is duty bound to sack him or resign.

  43. S Asoa

    London gunner
    and
    In game against Chelsea
    There was Giroud who could not win any aerial crosses against a much shorter Terry
    because
    He couldn’t position himself at dip of trajectory of the ball
    Whereas Terry could read the ball and get it
    Leaving Giroud to do a futile hop somewhere besides.
    Shows which Imbecile been remaining lui

  44. Uwot?

    We gets on his usual wind up of “everything in the garden is rosy”when it comes to transfers.he knows it winds us up.cos he ‘s a smug git.however,two things are working against him .what legacy does he want to leave behind & the fans patience.he is running out of time.does he really want to go out with a bang or leave all the glory to maureen as slinks out the back door with his tail between his legs & the specialist in failure laughter ringing in his ears.something tells me his vanity & pride won’t allow it.so we’ll see what happens if anything this summer window.a bang or a whimper Mr wenger?

  45. Arsene's Nurse

    Injuries for Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea, Southampton are ALL down significantly. Liverpool have stayed the same.

    Shad may well have had an effect on Arsenal and the squad’s fitness but the general trend has been down.

  46. SpanishDave

    Coming second would gloss over Wengers poor management at the begining of the season that has cost us a chance of winning the title.
    He is very poor at addressing our weaknesses, because he has false belief in our fringe average players, mainly because he brought them and wont admit the failure.
    His benevolence to crap players is our undoing. Nothing will change this summer

  47. Charlie Boy

    S Asoa

    You need to understand that Terry is very experienced and Giroud is still learning his trade.

    This season (when not injured) Giroud has been immense in all areas of the pitch and has scored some cracking goals. I can see him being even stronger next season – where I’m sure his heading technique will also improve even more.

    Personally, I think he’s a pretty good header of the ball and tends to win most aerial battles, flicking on for on-rushing wingers or strikers.

    We have the semblance of a good, strong team – we just need to hope that Monsiour Wenger buys and sells wisely this summer.

    I have everything crossed!

  48. shad

    @Keyser,

    The Sanogo example was to illustrate Wenger’s poor spending. What initially appeared to be frugality is now an expense as he is on a long term contract and will take a while to make it to the top level.

    Chelsea is seeing out a contract on loan but it is with the option to buy which will be exercised. Not to mention Chelsea raided Atletico of Courtois and Costa who have now helped them win the league.

    Nani was a poor purchase along with Anderson. But in his stint he helped ManU win the UCL and EPL and I recall them bundling us out of the FA Cup thanks to Nani’s mazy runs and his infamous “seal dribble”.

    What was your point again?

  49. Jeff

    It’s sickening isn’t it that Mourinho’s won the league by such a big margin. Only Ferguson could match and outplay him and now he’s no longer there, he’s just going to run riot.

    Pellegrini is proving to be a dud. Our Wenger continues to be a dud. Brendan is just a girl and Van Gal is just plain onld shit. There’s no one left that can challenge him – regardless of how much they spend.

    I fear the same sort of thing next season.

  50. shad

    @Keyser,

    And indeed City were shitty, especially with the silly wages, but remember they have won the EPL twice. Once with Negredo who’s career has been ruined by injuries.

  51. Keyser

    shad – The example is just silly, Courtois was on loan from Chelsea to begin with, it’s just one of those things people throw out there because they think it carries weight.

    You’re missing the point, they get next to nothing for these players on loan, but have put them on massive wages, Nani signed his contract this year and they send him on loan almost immediately, it’s nuts, likewise the contribution Falcao has made.

    The point was you saying we haven’t spent well, and your best example was Sanogo ? He’s only scored one goal, and that was in a 2-0 win vs Dortmund that helped us qualify from the group stages, that one goal probably paid for however much we’ve spent on him.

    You can move onto tactics if you want.

  52. Thomas

    Relieable sauce
    May 4, 2015 11:45:02

    Offering Diaby a new contract cannot be justified in any sane persons mind.
    If Wenger tries it Ivan is duty bound to sack him or resign.

    ___________________

    Wenger is not a sane person either.

  53. Ozy

    Defending the purchase of Sanogo and his inclusion in a Champions League match against Bayern Munich.

    It’s kind of sad, really.

  54. Insomnia

    Some peoples reactions are very strange. Last year Wenger said the same thing in May 2014:

    “I’m not chasing any player at the moment,” he said. “I believe my priority is to stay with the squad we have. We will try of course to bring in one or two players to strengthen the squad but we have plenty of strikers. And if we buy, it certainly won’t be players who lack experience. We have enough of those.”

    And what happened?
    Chambers
    Debuchy
    Ospina
    Sanchez
    Welbeck

    Sanogo, Podolski, Jenkinson and Campbell on loan
    and during the season:
    coquelin and bellerin upped – bielik and Gabriel bought.

    6 players bought and 4 loaned out.

    Basically Wenger does not tell the truth about transfers – nor does any experienced manager.

  55. Arsene's Nurse

    @Insomnia – but, but it was on the internet so it must be true! 😉

    People are gullible and believe whatever they read without much thought or question.

    Everyone knows Wenger keeps it buttoned on transfers and spending yet large numbers of people will debate endlessly on the slightest transfer rumour no matter how outrageous.

    We’ll spend in the summer no doubt about it.

  56. Spellbound

    Insomnia

    Thank you.

    Also while we’re at it, someone please get Bamford some aspirin or something for the impending heart attack he seems certain to have over today’s le-grove post.

  57. hitman

    Benteke, kondog, sterling. We need to mean business in the summer. Not have rest. We need to get serious about winning the big trophies.

  58. Insomnia

    I’ll tell you what’s also strange, for this season we:

    – Spent net @ 50m – financials would indicate we can spend minimum of the same again with no problem.
    – We got 15 players permanently off our books

    Even if we got rid of Podolski, Jenkinson and Campbell you could easily expect 10-15m to add to transfer pot, throw in Chesney and a few others and you are up again.

  59. G10

    @Bamford10
    May 4, 2015 10:26:21

    Spot on. Couldn’t believe what I am reading.

    The old French spin doctor has done it again.

    If our political leaders had an ounce of Wenger’s ability to retain mass support whilst repackage the same old failures as causes for optimism then you would have the greatest politician who ever lived.

  60. Insomnia

    And before I get attacked – Im not saying everything is good, simply that people should at least be able to see the changes that have already happened given that they are verifiable facts.

    Been an Arsenal fan too long to not expect the worst – but to me it feels like a squad that is being upgraded systematically.

  61. Insomnia

    “Redtruth May 4, 2015 13:56:58
    Wenger will never change and neither will the screwball posters on here.”

    Indeed Redtruth – you seem very unlikely to change…

  62. Insomnia

    Id love us to sign Kondogbia – but I don’t really want a Geoffrey on the team. He’d have to change his name by deed poll first to something like Mike or Jim

  63. salparadisenyc

    Wenger’s surely signing two key players at minimum. Our budget permits it, i’d like to say our sponsors demand it but this is Wenger were talking about.

    In my mind its a goals scoring threat likely to inherit the left side and some midfield balance.

    Paul Pogba anyone?

    🙂

    Realistically, Schneidlerlin seems to have the target on his back. It would be very Wenger to pull someone else out of hat.

  64. Insomnia

    “The change required is to the incumbent of our match day dugout.”

    Do we have a dugout? It seems to be at ground level…

  65. DB10

    Can Anybody tell me how I can get the FA Cup Final ticket? This would be the first time to watch my beloved Arsenal, so you can imagine how big a deal it is for me. I would also appreciate an info regarding legit ticket selling websites.

  66. Insomnia

    Fair enough:
    Kondogbia/Schneiderlin
    Lazacette

    Waaahay:
    Kondogbia/Schneiderlin
    Higuain

    Dreamworld:
    Pogba
    Higuain

  67. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Three home frames in the 5 remaining should see us through to second…

    Chelsea play well when needed an dogged when required we should follow deputies an build a squad that’s flexible for all types…

  68. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Charlie
    I disagree that Giround is still learning trade, what’ve see is the best it gets…
    Sure he may shine in the odd game …
    But he will never rip it up in the big games when required ….

    He will score our first tonight tho…

  69. Highbury4ever

    “Kondog? Woof Woof!”

    A big fan of the movie “Gravity” ?? Not funny ?? lol

    Otherwise, wenger has said that henry was wrong to criticize LOreal…
    TH14 can say goodbye to his coach career lol

  70. Bergkamp63

    “I do wish miserable Arsenal fans would stop moaning that there’s a 16 point gap at the top of the league. We have 2 games in hand over

    We have to win those two games. But now City are pulling away in second, there really is a fight on to make up the ground.

    This season has represented progress. I have no idea why so many people are in denial about that.”

    I suppose it depends on your definition of progress ? Let’s summarise.

    Didn’t win the title: Check
    Top 4 finish: Check
    Exit CL at round of 16 again for ? Lost count ! Check
    Finished last season 7 pts behind leaders, currently 16 pts with 2 games in hand so not much progress: Check
    Wenger still here on £8m a year: Check
    Wenger quoted saying we don’t need to strengthen much at all: Check
    See you all same time next year for another summary: Check

    You talk of denial !

  71. Insomnia

    “Bergkamp63: Wenger quoted saying we don’t need to strengthen much at all”

    Given that he said the same last year did you believe him then?

    Did we strengthen since last year?
    Chambers
    Debuchy
    Ospina
    Sanchez
    Welbeck
    Gabriel

  72. Joe

    Keyser. Would you please shut up about money. It’s not in the cover station anymore. You are so boring with that drivel.

    Wenger and Pedro act like we won the league at a canter. Quiet summer??

    We could finish 4th and no fa cup still. City, united and Chelsea, Liverpool will all add as will spuds and Pedro wants a quiet summer

    I think Pedro has been offered something and has been bought. He really can’t be this daft

  73. Ozy

    Who here actually believes Benteke and Sterling would improve us? And is Kondogbia really that good? Is Cech not getting past his prime?

    Those suggestions remind me of the M’Villas, Sambas, Cesars of the past. The grass is always greener…

    There are players out there, many, many players, that would improve us. Not those. I’d rather stick with Welbeck and the Ox than gamble with Benteke and Sterling.

  74. Bergkamp63

    Insomnia May 4, 2015 14:43:47
    “Bergkamp63: Wenger quoted saying we don’t need to strengthen much at all”
    Given that he said the same last year did you believe him then?
    Did we strengthen since last year?
    Chambers
    Debuchy
    Ospina
    Sanchez
    Welbeck
    Gabriel

    I fail to see the relevance of this ? have we progressed ? What have we achieved this year that we didn’t last year in terms of titles or trophies ? or for that matter, the distance in pts between us and the PL winners ?

    In round figures please !

  75. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Personally I ain’t sure on ospina ….
    However data don’t lie…

    Liked sczc but now when you compare with Cech or coutious or even de gea
    He ain’t never gonna be up there with them ? Is he ?

  76. Joe

    Spot on bergkamp

    The only improvement is we didn’t get smashed 6-0, 6-3, 5-1 by our rivals. Pedro wants a trophy for that it seems. The progress trophy. Where did we progress? From 4th to 3rd? When is the parade

    This season is no better than last season bar not getting smashed by our rivals

  77. Spellbound

    “I fail to see the relevance of this ? have we progressed ?”

    If you can’t see any progress this season, in particular since January then Its possible something might be blocking your vision. Agenda perhaps?

  78. Bergkamp63

    I find it quite sad that some have had to grade the degree of losing as a way of justifying to themselves that we have progressed ?

    That is the very definition of denial itself !

  79. Bergkamp63

    Spellbound May 4, 2015 15:01:35
    “If you can’t see any progress this season, in particular since January then Its possible something might be blocking your vision. Agenda perhaps?”

    I guess that would be the facts blocking my vision !

  80. Joe

    The most points we can achieve this season is 82. A massive 3 point improvement on last season. If we win out.

    Spellbound. We led the league most of the season last. This season our run came when there was no pressure as title was lost. As always with wenger when pressure is off his teams win. Just like beating Monaco, bayern in the second legs when all hope is already gone

    And also we led the league most last season. This season not 1 day. I say we regressed.

  81. Bergkamp63

    Dan Ahern May 4, 2015 15:03:56
    Pretty funny that Pedro writes this sort of easygoing, fairly balanced post, and everybody loses it.

    Certainly nobody here has lost it, can’t speak for the rest mind !

  82. Spellbound

    Don’t get me wrong, we do need to improve and we need to continue to add a few more top players to the squad. But I can’t remember any time over the past few years where we have had a fully fit squad. That in itself is progress.

    I have little doubt that with maybe one or two key additions and a good injury record, that arsenal will be challenging for the PL trophy next year.

  83. Marc

    Anyone who thinks Wenger is going to come out and say we need to sign a load of players is a fool. What we say to the press and what we do don’t have to be the same thing.

  84. Bergkamp63

    You could even make an argument that we have actually fallen further behind,

    The likes of City, Chelsea & Man Utd are all turning over more commercial revenue than we are now and can afford to spend more again if they so wish, this gap is likely to increase.

    There is still far too much wastage at Arsenal to compete with the very best in the PL & CL.

  85. Wallace

    Bergkamp63

    “You could even make an argument that we have actually fallen further behind,”

    if you’re simple, and like giving yourself electric shocks you could.

  86. Bergkamp63

    Marc May 4, 2015 15:17:00
    Anyone who thinks Wenger is going to come out and say we need to sign a load of players is a fool. What we say to the press and what we do don’t have to be the same thing

    Nobody is disputing this fact, it’s the standard annual BS from Wenger and the fact that we keep a bunch of players on bloated wages until their contracts runs down because he can’t get shot of them which is down to him and nobody else.

    It still changes nothing.

  87. Bergkamp63

    Wallace May 4, 2015 15:27:48
    Bergkamp63
    “You could even make an argument that we have actually fallen further behind,”

    if you’re simple, and like giving yourself electric shocks you could.

    Well clearly you would need more than the IQ of a potato to manage it though !

  88. TitsMcGee

    This season has represented progress. I have no idea why so many people are in denial about that”

    Very Silly Pedro. No offence.

    1 pt out of 6 v Chelsea (same as last season )

    UCL exit same stage as last 5 seasons vs weaker opposition.

    Further behind league leaders than last season.

    Where exactly is the improvement? Because we beat a struggling City in Manchester (only 2ND victory in 23 road games vs top 5?)

    Marginal especially considering we beat Barca a few years ago as well as Bayern a couple of years ago in Bavaria.

    I guess improvement has been made in that we didn’t get whitewashed 3 separate occasions this season but that is a pretty low bar isn’t it?

  89. Wallace

    Tits

    “I guess improvement has been made in that we didn’t get whitewashed 3 separate occasions this season but that is a pretty low bar isn’t it?”

    so you’d find 2nd and another FA Cup a bit meh?

    when was this Golden Age you seem to be pining for when we won everything, and were the dominant force on the continent?

  90. gonsterous

    Let’s hope the mental strength comes into play today and we win.. would love to finish 2 this season with an FA cup.. slow steps towards winning the title !!

  91. Highbury4ever

    “so you’d find 2nd and another FA Cup a bit meh?”

    This season could have been so much better…
    Lessons never learned ==>> Sighs.

  92. Danish Gooner

    Wenger have given up fighting for the pl and cl title years ago,he will never get the better of Mourinho and he knows it.

  93. Marc

    Bergkamp

    We spent £90 odd million in the last 2 transfer windows, I don’t think you can say same old Wenger. As for players on contracts we don’t need? All squads have players who don’t fit. Diaby is a lost cause and we’ve already unloaded a lot of the players who weren’t cutting it, I think you’ll see a few more go this summer.

    I just think some people have got into a mind set of moaning all of the time and can’t see that things have begun to change for the positive.

  94. TitsMcGee

    Wallace get your tongue out of you know where. You’d be saying the same shiiite if we were in 4th so let’s not act like you aren’t an AKB.

    You are counting the FA CUP already eh?

    2nd is not guaranteed and 2nd is some accomplishment?

    Liverpool agrees with you lol

    10 points behind league leaders. End of. You can twist it. Turn it. Flip it. Rotate it. Marinate it. Anyway you put it. 10 points behind league leaders (giving your leader benefit of the doubt), crashed out of UCL to weak opposition, 10 years no EPL, 18 years no UCL.

    But yes, celebrate the season because we potentially will finish 2nd lol

    (We wouldn’t even be in 2nd if City didn’t have a terrible season either)

    But yes, let’s pop Champagne. Only Arsenal fans celebrate failure like this. It’s sad how Wenger has basically mind forked the majority of them.

  95. Keyser

    The only actionable event came when Karl became involved in an argument with a prominent member of the Tangerine Knights supporters’ group and, to give you a few examples, typed in texts calling him an “intellectual cripple” and telling him to “enjoy the rest of your special needs day out”.

    A real charmer, our Karl. “Are you sure we’ve met?” he asked. “I would have remembered such a massive r*tard.” He did issue a public apology but, to nobody’s surprise, he has denied the FA’s charge of misconduct.

  96. Keyser

    “You are counting the FA CUP already eh?2nd is not guaranteed and 2nd is some accomplishment?”

    Exactly we haven’t finished 2nd, and we haven’t won the FA Cup yet.

    It’ll be our 2nd trophy in 10 years, and it’ll be the first time we’ve finished 2nd for 10 years, if we achieve, either, both, neither, it’ll be something.

    You can either stop being such a petulent child, admit that it would represent some sort of progress if we did manage it..

    ..or you can say football is soo skewed, making a more general point, that overall it wouldn’t be significant of anything because of how difficult it is to judge the gap to Chelsea.

  97. Wallace

    Tits

    you didn’t answer my question, when was this Golden Age you’re pining for? was it Don Howe’s time? Stewart Houston’s? Bruce Rioch’s? i know we got him from Bolton, but his Bolton sides were playing way better football than GGs at the time…or was it the early-Wenger years?

  98. Bankz

    This whole BS on progress is beginning to get boring.
    I said I didn’t think we had made progress last week & I will still say same
    As long as Wenger remains manager of Arsenal,we will never win the UCL or EPL again.

    Keyser you really need to shut up about this ” but Chelsea have got more money so how are we suppose to compete” recycled drivel.
    I think most will agree on here that it has run its course.

    I’d even go as far as saying, give Mourinho our squad,Wenger the Chelsea squad & Mourinho still finishes ahead of Wenger.

    Not a fan of Mourinho but it takes more than just having an expensive squad to win leagues.
    Man City & Man United have pretty expensive squads too but are looking like finishing miles behind Chelsea.

    I think we need serious upgrade in the goalkeeper, Centre forward & left wing , then a solid CDM to provide competition for Coq.
    Will we still win the EPL? NO …..as Wenger isn’t ruthless or pragmatic enough to do that in the course of a 38game season.
    Will I consider that as progress? YES. Only then will I consider us as being anywhere close to the top teams in Europe.

  99. G10

    @Insomnia
    May 4, 2015 14:21:07

    A facetious response is probably the best you can do in the circumstances. The sad reality is that no amount of deflection and obfuscation can help you to defend Wenger’s track record of delivering nothing but failure for over a decade in the two main competitions.

    Over a decade and counting.

    Wenger’s departure is the first step in the right direction.

  100. Keyser

    Bankz – You’re basically saying, and if people were honest they’d grudgingly agree, that your minds are soo addled with frustration you can’t help yourself but be incapable of having rational, objective discusssions.

    “Not a fan of Mourinho but it takes more than just having an expensive squad to win leagues.
    Man City & Man United have pretty expensive squads too but are looking like finishing miles behind Chelsea.”

    These are the only 3 teams to have won the league since we last won it.

    Arsenal have never won the Champions League, the closest we have ever gotten is one final where we had to set defensive records to get that far.

    So what are you saying ? There’s just fuckall point posting here ?

  101. BacaryisGone

    Pedro must think it’s a general election as he’s aiming right for the middle of the gooner fan base. Not too negative but cautiously optimistic. Vote for Pedro!

  102. BacaryisGone

    Arsene specifically mentioned that Chelsea, Man City and Man United are going to be strengthening this summer. Fortunately for us, that might just mean the Manchester clubs are going to piss away more cash on ill-suited transfer targets like Mangala or Falcao.

  103. Cesc Appeal

    Everything is moving along nicely in the the world of Arsenal and then Arsene Wenger opens his mouth…*sigh*

    Same old.

  104. Bergkamp63

    There is an easy way to settle the argument of whether or not we have “progressed”,

    Ignore opinion and supposition and stick to the facts !

    Incidentally, just because someone has a different opinion, doesn’t mean they have an “agenda”, this isn’t North Korea !

  105. daz

    (We wouldn’t even be in 2nd if City didn’t have a terrible season either)

    Yeah and your uncle would be your aunty IF…….

  106. Dan Ahern

    When our loanees come back we should act like they’re crazy, insisting we sold them on a permanent basis. Keep up the pretense until they give up.