Thierry, you’re mean | Why all the pundits are wrong about Arsenal

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Kind of feel like we’ve landed in some parallel universe where I’ve taken a shot of happy and become a convert in the Arsene front.

#TeamPosiGoonersFamForevs

Not sure why everyone seemed to spitting feathers about the game at the weekend. Admittedly I was totally sober without hangover for once, so the clarity might have skewed my view, but I really felt quite positive after the game.

It felt like we were in it tactically. It looked like Jose tried to nullify our strengths over-exploiting our woeful weaknesses. We were in it. Chelsea are Champions elect, we were never going to bulldoze a team that plays expensively assembled midtable tactics to win a point. I mean, think about that, all the talent they have and they turn up without a striker. It’s embarrassing. Those players exchange trophies for their talent to be drowned in a shallow puddle of negativity. It’s truly turgid.

… what I love is how much the negative press is impacting Chelsea. I’d love more pragmatism in Wenger, but I’d also be pretty upset if we had to sacrifice so much of our game. Jose has done a pretty impressive job of convincing the media that there’s only one way to win things. It’s not true. Thank the lord for managers like Ancelotti and Guardiola.

… so the petrol on the post game fire seems to have mostly have poured from our ex-captain, Thierry.

He earns £4.5m a year and someone has told him he’s bland as James Milner spread on a fresh Geordie Alan Shearer bagels (not toasted, and dry). So he’s reacted. Firstly with a bizarre take down of a Chicarito celebration last week, then with a stinging attack on an Arsenal team absolutely flying. He said,

“I think they need to buy four players – they need that spine. They need a goalkeeper, they still need a centre back, they still need a holding midfielder and, I’m afraid, they need a top, top quality striker to win this league again.”

The above comments were out of kilter with reality and they were boring. They were isolated comments in a sea of progress.

Now, my views might be skewed. I was told things were on the up from a good place that I always get a balanced view from. So I’m comfortable about Sunday.

I don’t believe we need four signings. I also get sick to the back teeth of average pundits picking out the most base improvements possible. It doesn’t matter where they come from, as soon as they land on UK TV they all say it’s a player thing. Arsenal’s problems generally, haven’t centred around a lack of players over the last 10 years. It’s been a factor, don’t get me wrong, but most of our problems centred around a backward manager who couldn’t get the most out of what he has in the modern era.

Players don’t teach themselves on pitch strategy. Players don’t prevent themselves from having long term injuries. Players can’t be trusted to make themselves stronger. They won’t run video analysis sessions on their own. They won’t drill themselves in the basics like defending as a unit. They don’t understand recovery procedures to ensure they’re match fit. They don’t rotate themselves.

That’s the big change that’s happened his half of the season. Well, it started changed late November apparently, now we’re seeing the fruits.

Form is linked to smarter planning and better fitness. Sure, Arsenal need to buy players to compliment the current squad. If you’re brutal, maybe we need a better striker, but based on this season, there aren’t many. We need a new keeper, but Ospina is doing the business. We need a Schneiderlin because Flamini and Arteta are dead – and we’ll need an upgrade on Theo if he goes.

But it’s not major surgery like Thierry suggested. It’s not a new spine. Actually what we need to do is ramp up the back room progress. We need to use the car study effort the changes have incurred as a springboard for more.

Smarter, better, stronger.

As for the Giroud comments, I thought they were a bit mean. The French glamour boy has come back fighting with class and dignity.

“It has been a few years since we finished second and, if we can do it, we can see an improvement, which is great. Next year, hopefully, we will have fewer injuries, will keep the same group and, with maybe one or two new players, we will have a great season I am sure.

“As for myself, in sport you have to question yourself every week and be ready in your head and you have to be at 100% of determination if you want to keep going and win games; you cannot afford to be at 80% or 90%. You have to have faith in your own qualities, that is part of being a footballer: being strong in your head. That is more than half of the quality you need to be a football player.”

If you can’t see an improvement in the squad this year, you’re not looking hard enough. If you can’t budge your views to accept what you’re not seeing your eyes, well, I think it’s pretty dull.

Thierry was a great player, he’s a dull pundit. If he has to secure more wealth by bagging on us unfairly. Fine. Be that way. It’d be nice if he could be more exciting by bringing more genuine insight to the table. Controversy has us talking about him, but you know what, being f*cking smart at backing your points with evidence would be a way better talking point today.

Also, why are we not reversing the critique of Chelsea? Cesc didn’t land an assist at the weekend. Hazard was pretty quiet. Chelsea were hardly ripping us a new one. Where’s the critique there?

Anyway, I’m rambling. Have a great day.

In Arsene we trust. #GoonerFam

P.S. I thought this tweet was true until I saw Cesc on a poster on the other Bridge. Arsenal need to take this down. Arsenal fans need to create a viral video of them taking it down. Well, if I were a video student, that’s what I’d be doing. Not that I’m inciting vandalism, that would be terrible. But that poster is a joke. Name me a club in the land that’d have that up still? Crazy.

 

651 Responses to “Thierry, you’re mean | Why all the pundits are wrong about Arsenal”

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  1. Keyser

    “Says this but then detracts from Simeone because he “coincidentally” showed up and helped take down Barca/ Madrid.”

    What is he Batman ? One League title in 18 years..

  2. leon

    well arsenal team played under george grham they didnt play any different to chelsea and I dont care if this is boring and wins trophies. the bottom line chelsea win trophies that is the managers job to win trophies for his team no matter what it takes. i think there needs to be a distinction on weather you like Mourinho or weather is good manager and although he is not a very nice person he is a very good manager. what ever club he gone to he has won titles and the facr arsenal have not beaton chelsea in a long long time. the fact arsenals money problems ended years ago top players cost money wenger shows not buy top players sorry but he needs to go

  3. TitsMcGee

    If going a decade without winning your league or even sniffing it whilst at the top 5-10 club in the world isn’t underachieving then my friend you are an AKB sorry to say.

    Like the way we play? Fine.

    Happy with 2nd? Fine

    Bold face BS? Draw the line.

    2 wins from 23 away vs top 5.

    UCL exit last 16, 5 years in a row.

    UCL exit without victory 17 years in a row.

    0-century v Mourinho.

    Had a terrible record v Fergie.

    All of the above cancelled out because “he spent the 4th most and came in 4th” .

    Jesus.

  4. tunnygriffboy

    Our start to the season was diisasterous. Pre-season players late back from World Cup, not buying a DM or CB especially knowing Kos was crocked and finally the inevitable injuries.

    After 7 games we were 9 points behind Chelsea and had to look forward to Chambers at RB, Flamini DM, Monreal at CB injuries to Kos, Giroud and Ozil. We are now 10 points behind Chelsea.

  5. daz

    Tits I never said were not a rich club you must be mistaking me for someone else? But I would say we have always spent within our means and while our club paid off stadium debts our funds were less now there back up we’ve spent more is this not clear for people to see?

  6. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Yeah I agree.

    I think at a basic level it should be a GK and CDM/CM, though obviously the great need for one has diminished slightly with the incredible emergence of Coquelin, but we still need another I think.

    I do think Walcott will be off and Wenger will pursue a wide player, but a more technical, play maker type as opposed to pace and pure goal threat.

    Be interesting, hope we don’t sit around for a age, get your buys in early if you can and give this lot a full summer together and lets see what we can do next season.

  7. TitsMcGee

    LOL

    2006 Racing
    2006–2007 Estudiantes
    2007–2008 River Plate
    2009–2010 San Lorenzo
    2011 Catania
    2011 Racing
    2011– Atlético Madrid

    LOL

    “18 years”

    LOL

    When you have an agenda.

    5 years at AM:

    La Liga (1): 2013–14
    Copa del Rey (1): 2012–13
    Supercopa de España (1): 2014
    UEFA Europa League (1): 2011–12
    UEFA Super Cup (1): 2012

    Yea, coincidence lol

    Christ almighty.

  8. Kurt F

    What’s most bizarre about this post is that Pedro takes issue with Thierry saying we need 4 players, then concedes we need 4 players. Yes Giroud is doing well now, but when has he ever made a difference in the big games? Where was he against Monaco when a truly top class striker would have made a difference?

    Of course our current squad is indeed fine if we’re content to a) not compete for the league b) not compete for the champions league and c) win a domestic cup competition (maybe) – but for a club with our riches (and ticket prices) is it really so wrong to expect more than that. We may be ‘good enough’ – but good enough shouldn’t be good enough at Arsenal – we should be aiming for the best, to improve wherever and whenever we can, manager’s favourites be damned.

    Sadly, yet again Pedro seems to have swallowed the “don’t worry, it’ll all be better next year” platitudes whispered into his ear by his contacts at the club.

  9. daz

    Tits are you saying Wenger should have done better with the players he had available over the last decade? Or are you saying he should have brought better players? Also a clubs total value and there transfer funds are two separate things

  10. Keyser

    Atletico one title in 18 years.

    If its not a coincidence he’ll do it again.

    Go on Tits put your mammaries where your mouth is, what will he win this year ?

  11. Dan Ahern

    Lol, Simeone’s been there all of like 3 seasons. But yeah, keep slating him because Atletí hadn’t toppled the Madrid-Barcelona hegemony in the previous 18 years.

    “Coincidence”
    Get a fucking hold of yourself, man.

  12. Redtruth

    Stadium debt hasn’t been paid off it’s still ongoing.

    What was the reason for the unecessary sales of Overmars, Petit and Anelka if it wasn’t for money (keyser you were in nappies at the time and you still are)

  13. leon

    all i am reading is allot comments that Mourinho had this x amounts money to spend you know what wenger chose to manage under those circumstances

  14. salparadisenyc

    Keyser

    Over the course of the past two seasons Mourinho made that squad his. Essentially building a new spine, whilst turning a profit in 2014-`15 and winning the league.

    Our poor start certainly isn’t his fault. To come to the Emirates on our form and pull that type of defensive display? Credit to em… thats no easy task.

    I’d agree the loan numbers are mental but it currently fits within the rules of FFP, but something tells me that will change. Like I said the playing field is leveling.

  15. Wallace

    Tits is right – look around Europe and you’ll see over the last 10yrs the 4th biggest team in nearly all of the leagues has been dominant. its hard to explain but nevertheless makes perfect sense.

  16. Dan Ahern

    Lmao Keyser you can’t be having a mental breakdown like this. “Coincidence,” fuck me! “Coincidence” says the guy who’ll spend 50 paragraphs explaining how everything in interdependent and hopelessly tangled in an unnavigable web of cause and effect.

    Weren’t you the one calling people sophists a while back? Lol.

  17. Wallace

    sal

    “Over the course of the past two seasons Mourinho made that squad his. Essentially building a new spine, whilst turning a profit in 2014-`15 and winning the league.”

    c’mon, man, PSG giving him 50m for David Luiz was a nice little bump start.

  18. Redtruth

    Sorry it’s not Mourinho but Chelsea that win trophies

    Chelsea played Mourinho brand of football on their way to winning the Champions league under Di Matteo

  19. Keyser

    salparadisenyc – Like I said you can either discuss things rationally or you can sit there and fawn at excuses.

    Di Matteo did the European Cup and FA Cup double, 13 months earlier, Benitez walked in and won the Europa League.

    Last year they finished 4 points from top, and had Lukaku, Courtois on loan, De Bruyne they chose to see after barely any appearances.

    Who are you trying to kid ?

    You had this place going mental about our lack of spending in January, and Mourinho had everything he needed to win the title last year on loan, he was in a Champions League Semi-final and the better of his two goalies is playing against him.

    I mean ffs, even we finished 7 points from top and actually won something.

    The Simone’s over here are cheerleading and Mourinho took Atletico’s striker, their left-back and their own goalie back, do you not see how mental it all is.

  20. Nasri's Mouth

    TitsMcgee: All of the above cancelled out because “he spent the 4th most and came in 4th” .

    Look, I know you’re having trouble with basic logic, but basically yes, (I know you keep ignoring the 4th/5th spend and 3rd/4th finish bit)

    Of course, had he won the league he would have overachieved MORE

    had he won the CL, he would have overachieved MORE

    I’m fairly sure I mentioned something about it being a small overachievement, why don’t you go back and check

    Or you could keep ignoring what I post and stick with your sad little agenda

    It’s almost as though you believe we were winning everything in sight before Wenger arrived and he’s destroyed the club

  21. salparadisenyc

    Wallace… you don’t think Wenger would of taken that money..
    How many players we sold to City for how much money?

  22. Keyser

    Dan Ahern – Mate you’ve butted into something.

    I was highlighting that Atletico hadn’t won a league title for 18 years, I didn’t need to mention Simeone, what was your point again ?

    Then because Tits is a clueless fuckwit he’s made it about Simeone, so now Simeone is what ? Maybe you should try and explain how Simeone’s achieved what he has, and then you’ll also be able to tell us when he’ll repeat it.

    Why did you want to butt in anyway ?

  23. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    3 signings,

    A Reus type player

    A player to challenge Coq

    A replacement for Szczesny if Wenger has had enough of him.

    Bob Wilson recently said that he (Wilson) hasn’t given up on him. I have no idea how much of an insight he has these days though.

    Last summer the cry was for a DM, but what I wanted as well (if not more), was a more mature and sensible style of play. I think we’ve got that now, it’s not perfect, but we look a lot more composed and less likely to have a rush of blood.

    This summer what I’m really hoping for is the focus is on sorting out the injuries. We’ve shown that with everyone fit, we can really compete, what we need is to do that over a full season, rather than a half season here, a half season there, a calendar year somewhere else

  24. Dissenter

    Keyser,
    Let’s call a spade a spade,
    Is there anything you give Mourhino credit for, however small it might be.

    Seriously, is he that bad to you?

  25. Nasri's Mouth

    Keyser: If its not a coincidence he’ll do it again.

    That’s not actually true.

    There’s a limit to how much you can continue to beat the odds and by how much

    BUT if it’s not a coincidence he’ll get more 3rds and 2nds than 4ths and 5ths.

  26. Wallace

    sal

    i’m saying PSG giving Mourinho 50m for a player he didn’t even like was a real boon for the net spend. if they gave us 50m for Podolski i’m sure our net spend over the next few seasons would look pretty good too.

  27. Keyser

    Dan Ahern – I think you’re the one being dishonest, if you were that upset and wanted to join in soo badly you’d explain why you think I’m dishonest.

    Explain why you think I’m wrong.

  28. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Yeah I agree with that.

    A few of the players have publicly spoken about the change behind the scenes, looking at the opposition in the run up to a game, like you I’m hoping we’ve changed our approach to fitness.

    I’ve always thought that Schez could be a decent keeper, but his attitude absolutely stinks and looks like it may sink him, if there’s a chance we could get Cech then that for me is just a common sense move.

  29. Keyser

    NM – That wasn’t really the point, Atletico hadn’t won a league title in 18 years, so Tits decided to place the emphasis on Simeone, as if Simeone turned up and turned the World on it’s head, which is also probably what Ahern thinks.

    Instead of making a tangible argument, they’ve simple decided Batman swooped in, Batman can’t finish in those places.

  30. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    I have some misgivings about Cech. For years he was superb, but he seemed (IMO) to slip a little in his last couple of seasons. Maybe it’s just me, but I worry how good he’ll be.

    A little like Lloris at Spurs, I honestly can’t see either being sold to us, unless the deal really suits the sellers a lot more than us

  31. Dissenter

    The FA has finally put the last nail on the coffin of the FA cup.
    They’ve just signed a 10 million-a-year GBP sponsorship of the FA cup with Emirates airline.
    It will now be called the Emirates FA cup.

    Utter disgrace.

  32. salparadisenyc

    Wallace in other industry’s they call that good business, i’d tend to agree.

    Keyser

    And I thought I was discussing things rationally.
    WTF are you going on about, fawn at excuses?

    Thats little statement could quite easily be flipped in you’re direction.
    Apparently you missed the part where I said we’ve made serious progress, playing field leveling out etc.

    Im not sure you’re even reading what you’re responding to. And who wasn’t screaming for a holding mid in January? It was dire. Coq’s coming good turned the season, i’d love to credit Wenger for that but I don’t think in his wildest expectations he expected these results form the player. But hey fair play to having a player on loan and being able to recall him.

  33. Keyser

    Dissenter – First open your eyes to other possibilities.

    My point is basically Chelsea are in a completely different situation to where we are.

    Mourinho’s not innovative, or especially adventurous, what he is and has been probably since he’s left Porto, is a cold, calculated results machine, he’s made sure he wins so he backs up his image and he also only takes on challenges where his image won’t be too badly maligned.

    But because you’re closed minded, you’ll see Chelsea winning the league, because Mouriho is a tactical genius who knows how to grind out results, but you’ll ignore that his own tactical limitations allowed PSG to creak through with 10 men.

    So at the same time as saying Mouriho achieves results, you’ll omit the ones that don’t fit in with this.

    It’s like saying it’s only his second year, Well the image he’s created for himself is that this doesn’t matter, he achieves regardless.

  34. Nasri's Mouth

    @Keyser

    As I said, his logic was flawed, but in the case of Simeone he was definitely swimming against the tide and succeeding last season.

    What will be telling is if he manages to have continued success in the future which doesn’t necessarily mean more titles, as even a 2nd place would be better than expected.

    If he finishes 3rd this season, then goes on to finish 5th next season, then suddenly his star isn’t quite so bright

  35. Danish Gooner

    Only an intellectual neanderthal would compare spending time commenting at Le-Grove with not getting laid.

  36. TitsMcGee

    If you say Wenger overachieves but Mou underachieves then you are full of it.

    Chelsea hadn’t won in X years before Roman/Mou first go round. So pointing out 18 year drought is pretty stupid/despearte considering DS wasn’t managing for those years.

    Also at the end of the day who but Arsenal fans gives a shiiite about how much Chelsea/ AMadrid won before X?

    A money doping club does it(CFC)

    A club with no money did it(AM).

    What’s Wenger’s excuse?

    The sky is blue. Departure tax is high.

  37. Danish Gooner

    Remember how Pedro pleaded with Wenger to sign Balotelli,thank you WENGER FOR NOT SIGNING THAT LAZY NO GOOD PIECE OF SHIT.

  38. Danish Gooner

    He is more lazy then Deckchair,he is less bothered then Adebayor,he is as arrogant as Joey Barton,his ego is bigger then Lord Bendtners and he is paid far too much money for running around being complete and utter useless.I am personally disgusted everytime i see him play and feel sorry for Rogers having signed him.

  39. Johnty79

    Truth be told wenger has sighed Ozil and Sanchez in the last two years but neither has impacted on our league performance….

    We would of finished Sanchez top four with out Sanchez assuming Walcott and ox weren’t injured.

    Henry is 100% right. But I think ospina gas been outstanding since he’s been in the team. I’d still sign begovic mind.

  40. Keyser

    salparadisenyc – Which is the whole point, you’re making excuses for Mourinho you wouldn’t accept for Wenger.

    It seems people are incapable of following two trains of thought.

    It’s like this playing field levelling out, has it really ? Or has it after 10 years just become a little closer. We don’t know how FFP will work out or if teams will find ways around it, but then nutters on here have been taking the piss out of the club and FFP for years anyway.

    Do you not see the contradiction or the hypocricy ? Where those same people are now saying ‘Well it’s a level playing field’.

  41. Keyser

    NM – You’d need to look deeper into it and the clubs make-up, they don’t have the tv money split we do, teams take in exponetially more amounts as you go up the league, and then there’s their debt and third party owership.

    The league is supposedly looking into how they’ll achieve a fairer split.

  42. salparadisenyc

    Didn’t say its a ‘level playing field’ said the signs are positive… that its leveling out. The grey area is rather large where as some paint it in blacks and whites.

    But gone seem to be the days of the 50m on Torres for shits and giggles.

  43. SpanishDave

    Wenger doesnt like spending. He likes to think he can still find cheap players and polish them. Thats why we have so many duds in our squad. Thats why we cannot win the league, or the EPC.
    All the top teams that win have the best players in abundance, we just have a few.
    We have two of the richest men in the world as shareholders, who want to build up their finances rather than investing in the club. Wenger goes along with this,senario other managers might not.

  44. TitsMcGee

    Lewandowski just loves scoring against Dortmund doesn’t he?”

    So much for the Lewandowski sucks or Lewandowski can’t hack it at Bayern BS.

  45. daz

    We’re winning the FA Cup so often now it’s being renamed the Emirates FA Cup

    Ha thought the same thing lol

  46. TitsMcGee

    No, that’s okay. Happy to back out. I just found your coincidence statement so dishonest I had to laugh.”

    LOL

    It’s coincidence DS showed up and they just happened to start showing signs of life.

    It’s also coincidence that Wenger hasn’t won anything in a decade.

    He also think he’s slick by bringing up “18 YEARS” and then pretending like DS was there for those 18 when he’s only been there 5.

  47. Keyser

    Dan Ahern – I’m going to give you a bit more credit and you were just trying to help a fellow American who was struggling.

    Look at the stupidity you’re encouraging.

    It’s coincidence DS showed up and they just happened to start showing signs of life.It’s also coincidence that Wenger hasn’t won anything in a decade.He also think he’s slick by bringing up “18 YEARS” and then pretending like DS was there for those 18 when he’s only been there 5.

  48. daz

    It’s also coincidence that Wenger hasn’t won anything in a decade.

    So yet again the fa cup doesn’t count?

  49. TitsMcGee

    It’s also coincidence that Wenger hasn’t won anything in a decade.So yet again the fa cup doesn’t count?”

    Great. 1 trophy.

    Nice try though because you knew we were and have been talking about the EPL title all day.

    Again, back to my question of financial might. Will you answer or just dance around the topic like Mayweather 😉

  50. Nasri's Mouth

    Keyser: You’d need to look deeper into it and the clubs make-up, they don’t have the tv money split we do, teams take in exponetially more amounts as you go up the league, and then there’s their debt and third party owership.

    Which is exactly why I said he doesn’t need to win it again to prove it’s not a coincidence

  51. Wallace

    daz

    “So yet again the fa cup doesn’t count?”

    nope, until we’re winning the Premier League and Champions League every couple of years just like we used to all the rest of it’s just kids shitting in the treehouse.

  52. Nasri's Mouth

    Cesc Appeal: We’re winning the FA Cup so often now it’s being renamed the Emirates FA Cup

    It would be kinda funny, but hopefully, the headline is wrong, and it’s a similar set up to their previous sponsor

  53. TitsMcGee

    nope, until we’re winning the Premier League and Champions League every couple of years just like we used to all the rest of it’s just kids shitting in the treehouse.”

    See Wigan two seasons ago.

  54. Nasri's Mouth

    Wallace: nope, until we’re winning the Premier League and Champions League every couple of years just like we used to all the rest of it’s just kids shitting in the treehouse.

    Is that what was happening before Wenger arrived ?

  55. Nasri's Mouth

    Dan Ahern: Anybody seen news on Lloris’s supposed release clause?

    Didn’t it all stem from Julien Laurens comments to the AST?

    If it did, apparently it’s a 20m euros deal for a CL club if Spurs don’t get CL.

    Even if that’s true, no-one in the media will know the exact wording, so it’ll be impossible to know how watertight it is.

  56. TitsMcGee

    Tits are you saying Wenger should have done better with the players he had available over the last decade? Or are you saying he should have brought better players? Also a clubs total value and there transfer funds are two separate things”

    Considering that he assembles the squad and has stated such on SEVERAL occasions that no players come to the club unless he gren-lights it?

    Absolutely.

    Again. Arsenal fans are the only fans that sit back and blame stadiums, what other clubs do, the blue sky, bad luck, injuries, and phiosophy on why we don’t win.

    The bottom line is and has stayed the same. We are miles off.

    Wallace was waxing poetic about how the WOB must be feeling nervous because we were “getting closer” to Chelsea but then forgot that they had a game on us and well quite frankly we can’t beat them.

    Come rain, shine, financial might, bad luck, signing players. Arsenal are always left out in the cold and there is one common denominator.

  57. Nasri's Mouth

    SpanishDave: Wenger goes along with this,senario other managers might not.

    OI Kroenke, give us your money or the wife gets it!

  58. Nasri's Mouth

    TitsMcgee: Arsenal are always left out in the cold and there is one common denominator.

    That’s true.

    Money

    Ohh, that’s not what you meant…

  59. Nasri's Mouth

    Wallace: apparently. a real golden age.

    Sigh, I wish I’d been a fan then.

    Would have been wonderful to see us constantly beating the odds and never finishing below where we should

  60. Nasri's Mouth

    I think Brendan has twigged that with little chance of getting CL football next season, the best thing would be avoid European football completely and try to replicate what he did last season

    …now he just needs to turn Balotelli into Suarez

  61. daz

    Wallace I was responding to Wenger hasn’t won anything in a decade comment just stating the facts, I find it sad people aren’t happy with winning the fa cup facts are Chelsea man u city will be competing with hopefully us for the title for the foreseeable future those teams aren’t going anywhere anytime soon so regardless of players brought regardless of manager we might not win the title for a while yet, the only given is its going to be very tough to win

  62. TitsMcGee

    That’s true. MoneyOhh, that’s not what you meant…”

    Athletico Madrid?

    Oh wait!!

    That doesn’t count because:

    1) It doesn’t fit your agenda
    2) It’s just a “coincidence”
    3)It’s “just La Liga”
    4)Mourinho is to blame some how

    LOL

    My bad.

  63. Keyser

    “I find it sad people aren’t happy with winning the fa cup”

    It’s not really people, it’s just idiots like Tits who don’t really understand what’s going on.

  64. Dan Ahern

    NM — Yeah, but a month ago people were saying there was no clause at all. Hard to know what to believe and I don’t think I’ve seen a reputable news source say anything on the matter.

  65. WengerEagle

    He has quite a task on his hands NM, Liverpool would need to finish in 8th to avoid the Europa League and they are currently 8 points ahead of Swansea with 4 matches left to play.

    I like Brenda, he makes me laugh.

  66. kwik fit

    Keyser enough of the football video’s this is a music blog FFS…..Get you ears round this…….centerfold ….take it away baby

  67. Nasri's Mouth

    TitsMcgee: LOLMy bad.

    Once more because you constantly fail to understand basic concepts.

    Simeone has done really well winning La Liga. It’s a great achievement. I’m not denying it. He’s done really well.

    Understand ?

    Wenger hasn’t done as well, BUT that doesn’t mean he’s underachieved.

    There are degrees of achievement and as I said (at least twice, but I suspect I’ll have to keep telling you) Wenger’s overachievement is slight.

    So
    1) YES actually it does fit my agenda, (opps you got that wrong)
    2) I’ve never said it’s a co-incidence, so stop making things up (again)
    3) err nope, he’s done really well, (see above) it’s not JUST La Liga
    4) Dunno what he has to do with it, you’re clutching a lot here

    So yes, as you say “your bad”, you continually fail to understand what is basic logic.

    So either you’re massively thick, (we’re talking Johnty levels here)

    or

    You’re sitting there chanting “LA LA LA, not listening” because you have some weird fixated agenda against Wenger

  68. daz

    Tits to answer you more clearly you have been stating we are in the top 10 richest clubs in the world so wenger should do better I’m I correct on that?

    So my answer to that is we are one of the richest clubs and Wenger has been a major part of getting the club into a global brand, that value on the club does not mean we have had transfer budgets to match David dien wanted to spend more on the team and stay at Highbury the rest of the board didn’t he left we went to the Emirates yet you blame Wenger for lack of spending, we clearly have had bigger transfer budgets lately and he has used them, do you expect to close the gap that appeared so quickly? If we spend as we have recently for the next few years then we will compete but playing catch up on clubs who have spent billions won’t happen over night

  69. Nasri's Mouth

    @Dan Ahern

    It might come down to how the ‘clause’ is actually worded. (Ala Suarez)

    Or it might be that it didn’t suit either party to reveal it 8 weeks ago when Spurs might still have got CL football. Now his agent might have been instructed to get the wheels rolling

  70. Nasri's Mouth

    WengerEagle: Liverpool would need to finish in 8th to avoid the Europa League

    So there’s 3 teams plus Villa going into the Europa league ?

    I’m badly ignorant of the Europa league set up 🙁

  71. WengerEagle

    I’m not saying that I don’t rate Simeone, happen to think that he’s an excellent manager who’s massively overachieved at Atletico Madrid but it’s naughty to put up a list of the honours that he’s won when if we’re being honest the La Liga title and Copa Del Rey trophies are the only trophies he’s won that are prestigious.

    The Europa League is literally a league for losers and a vastly inferior Champions League while the Spanish Supercup is just a fancy name for Community Shield.

    We’re on course to retain the F.A Cup and finish 2nd, a better season than Atletico are having over in Spain.

  72. TitsMcGee

    Touched a nerve there Nasri?

    LOL

    Good.

    Secondly.

    You were the one who chimed in with the “more money” bollocks as referenced here:

    TitsMcgee: Arsenal are always left out in the cold and there is one common denominator.
    That’s true.

    Money

    Ohh, that’s not what you meant…”

    So don’t act like you didn’t walk right into it or that it was unsolicited.

    Money only keeps Wenger from achieving things. It appears to not matter to others. That is what you don’t understand but keep arguing the semantics of technically Wenger not underachieving because “TECHNICALLY” he finishes where he should based on what he spends. lol

  73. Wallace

    daz

    apologies, i was being sarcastic and not having a go at you. i pretty much agree with the points you’ve been making.

  74. Keyser

    WE – It wasn’t even about Simeone, Tits, stated Atletico as a example of teams not using money to win things.

    We’ve had discussions on Atletico before, Tits is pretty clueless.

    It’s their first title in 18 years, so then Tits decides it’s all about Simeone.

    Still ignoring that Atletico were 500 million in debt because they stopped paying taxesm because they kept spending money on players.

    They barely owned any player outright because of third party ownership, something we can’t utilise even if we wanted to.

    That the tv monies don’t have a relatively fair split, while Barcelona and Real earn more, Atletico being the third biggest earn exponentially more than the rest of the teams.

    Tits then decided to focus solely on Simeone, he was adamant that it wasn’t a coincidence at all, not to say it was, but that Simeone single handedly transformed a team with no money into title winners, well then why wouldn’t he be able to repeat it ?

    and that’s where his argument would fall down anyway.

  75. Bamford10

    Sort of like the embedded videos, but can we please engage in them sparingly? No need for clutter. Much love to all. Love the J. Geils, Kwik.

  76. Nasri's Mouth

    TitsMcgee: Money only keeps Wenger from achieving things. It appears to not matter to others

    On the contrary it does matter, otherwise you’d see the 4th most expensive sides winning leagues as often as the 1st most expensive sides.

    Does that happen? Only in Tits World apparently, but not in the real world

    So for the final time, Simeone overcame the odds, did really well, exceptionally overachieved, call it whatever you like.

    BUT despite what you keep claiming that doesn’t mean that Wenger has failed / underachieved / or whatever else you want to waffle on about.

  77. Paulinho

    Just like Wenger has failed the test of being able to win trophies that matter, or show any bottle whatsoever, without George Graham players.

  78. Nasri's Mouth

    Keyser: well then why wouldn’t he be able to repeat it ?

    Simeone is clearly a failure this season. He really ought to be matching his last seasons performance. Should be sacked, castrated and murdered for destroying his club if he doesn’t win it again this season

    I want my… err…someone else’s, probably some Spanish bloke’s Athletico back

    (I might be being sarcastic here)

  79. Nasri's Mouth

    WengerEagle: The Groundsman is getting sacked in the morning!

    Has he gone over to him and shaken his fist in his face yet ?

  80. Paulinho

    “Simeone is clearly a failure this season. He really ought to be matching his last seasons performance. Should be sacked, castrated and murdered for destroying his club if he doesn’t win it again this season”

    It’s an incredibly thick way to look at something, even by Keyser’s standards.

    He’s ground breaking in that department,

  81. northern gooner

    Klopp lent my undies.

    Im putting them up for sale after the 30th May.
    Serious 7 figure offers only.

  82. Wallace

    “Just like Wenger has failed the test of being able to win trophies that matter, or show any bottle whatsoever, without George Graham players.”

    Mein Gott….The World According to Tits McGee & Paulinho

  83. Keyser

    Paulinho’s become more confident since Barney Ronay plagiarised him..

    “On this evidence it isn’t hard to see why Fàbregas’s peers didn’t vote him into the Professional Footballers’ Association’s team of the year. A midfielder who will only pass the ball on, who has no burst of speed to offer another option is always easier to play against. And so he has become a containable high-class player, a kind of footballing Stephen Hawking, the trundling mega‑brain in need of a supporting entourage to wheel him into place.”

  84. WengerEagle

    Amusing that they are changing the F.A Cup’s name to the ‘Emirates F.A Cup’ the year after we possibly retain it.

    True story.

    In all seriousness it’s just the F.A further selling what’s left of their wretched soul.

  85. Nasri's Mouth

    @WengerEagle

    I honestly don’t know how it works.

    I wonder how the numbers work out.

    If Liverpool finish 7th this season, then they’ll earn approx £7m less in prize money (plus less in TV appearance money I’d imagine)
    How much did they make from the Europa Cup this season, and how much did they need to spend on extra squad members to play in both competitions ?

  86. Paulinho

    NM – I know you were being sarcastic.

    Simone’s achievement was incredible and demanding that he win it again to show it wasn’t some kind of fluke is so ridiculous to the point of not even warranting any remotely serious discussion.

    Regardless of their financial situation (ZZzzzzzzzzzzz), their players were/are mediocre compared to Madrid’s and Barcelona’s.

  87. Paulinho

    Keyser – Fabregas ‘plagarised’ me a couple of years later himself.

    Ha Ronay’s pretty good I must say. He just seems to have popped up in the few months or so.

  88. Wallace

    “Bayern Munich have extended their kit deal with Adidas until 2030 for a reported €900m (£645m). The current deal had another five years to go but the German kit manufacturer moved early to secure a further 10 years with the newly crowned Bundesliga champions.”

    Tuchel’s gonna need a bigger drinks cabinet…

  89. Keyser

    I thought Nasri was being sarcastic because he followed through on Titty’s line of thought and Paulinho was being equally mischievous by mis-representing Nasri’s sarcasm.

    It’d be pretty pitiful if either of those things weren’t true.

    In Paulinho’s case it seems to be, or he’s trying too hard to seek attention.

    Especially with all the mediocre players Fabregas now has to work with from Atletico.

  90. daz

    Manager should have known not to bring him on surely he needs to listen to his backroom staff more rushing players back poor management IMO sack him

  91. Keyser

    “I think I said something similar to Keyser earlier.”

    Ah fuck, it seems I was wrong, or Nasri’s grasp of how long sarcasm should lastis tenuous.

  92. Paulinho

    Keyser – I thought when Pedro put you up on the naughty step you must have fell and hit your head, but then you didn’t make much sense before then either, so you’ve got no excuse really.