Arsene Wenger is terrible, terrible loser

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Away goal ruling

Yes, he is. He hates losing. When he loses he bitches and moans. He complains about a lot.

So?

He’s a professional sports manager. Shouldn’t he be a sore loser? He’s no worse than the rest of them. I mean, probably the only humble loser in the league is Pochettino… but we’ll see how long that lasts when he’s under real pressure for his job.

I don’t mind sour, it means there’s passion. In fact, I used to hate Thierry Henry’s ‘love me’ act when we were tanking in big games.

IN DOUBLE FACT. I sometimes wish our boys were a little bit more petulant. I think we lose out on many decisions because we’re sometimes a little too nice. Martin Keown wasn’t a humble loser. Who’d want that near the side? You want a team of people who detest losing. That’s what makes Champions. My issues is that Wenger pertains to be a hard loser… I mean, I’ve heard so many times from people at Arsenal… ‘Oh Arsene, yeah, he takes losing harder than any manager’… well, here’s the thing. If I keep losing at stuff, I’ll take a long hard look at why I keep losing, then change the approach.

Arsene doesn’t. He gets all upset, then convinces himself that actually, he’s right and the world is wrong. The undercurrent to his comments is that the game is wrong, not him. Which is a bit of a strange angle to go with. I don’t like the away goal rules, but it does keep it interesting. It gives teams an incentive to go hard in the first leg, which they didn’t before the rule came into play.

‘Two teams have gone out on away goals, which I think should be questioned because it’s a rule that is outdated now and that has to be changed. I’ve fought for that for a long time.’

Come with solution, brother Wenger.

‘It should count maybe after extra-time because this rule has been created in the 60s to encourage the teams to attack away from home. Since that football has changed. The weight of the away goal is too big today.’

‘In a direct knockout, it’s important that you’re very efficient and a bit lucky as well. None of the teams, apart from Barcelona, look to be superior in Europe today. Two other teams, Chelsea and Arsenal, could have gone through.’

Ok, ok.

Anyway, let’s not get on Wenger’s back for being a sore loser. Let’s get on his back about him not going hard to change his losing ways, particularly in Europe where he now has a 50% failure rate to get out of the last 16.

I read a few people defending City for going out against Barca. I find this amazing. It’s not quite as embarrassing as going out to the worst team in the competition, but it’s still shocking that a team with that much resource against it is still dropping out at the last 16. Those players are very, very capable and they’re not interested. It’s over for Pelligrini. He’ll be gone in the summer. Another dinosaur of a manager leaving the league.

The real danger of City is that they’ll actually land on a proper manager. I’d be scared if they brought in Simeone, Guardiola or Klopp. Managers that can build. Managers that would have absolute respect of the dressing room. Good job all three of those won’t be available until next year at the earliest.

There’s going to be loads of chat about the Premier League being weak. However, I think that sort of mindset is incredibly misguided. The Premier League is the strongest on the planet. Bayern would struggle to adapt to its intensity and so would Madrid and Barca.

Here’s the thing, there’s no excuse for Arsenal and Chelsea going out, but the reasoning isn’t that PSG and Monaco are better teams. They’re not. The challenge we have and will always have going forward is that we’re just too damn nice when it comes to distributing money. In La Liga, there are, what, maybe 8 games that are of any relevance a year?

Think about that. You’re mostly playing teams that have about 50pence to their name. It’s a cake walk most of the time. It’s pub teams. I watched Eibar the other day, they have a high street on one side of their stadium. It’d look poverty in the Conference. In the Premier League, there aren’t any easy games. Clubs are richer, they collectively have more quality players and they’re all very smart with their fitness and tech.

We also don’t have a break here. If you think 4-6 weeks off doesn’t impact you in March, you’re a sugartit (it’s a curse). So we have better players, we have more intensity on the pitch, we play more games and we don’t have breaks. I mean, we really don’t make it easy for ourselves, but we’ve (not Arsenal) still won the trophy numerous times over the last few years.

Madrid, Barca and Bayern dominate their leagues money wise and they have total ownership over players. 3 exceptional teams that cause detriment to the quality of the rest of the league. I’d prefer what we have.

Tonight, I have leaving drinks with my old work. I’ll not be about early tomorrow. Hopefully Alex can take over tomorrow.If he were a real friend and a committed writer, that’s what he’d do.

Also, we’ll be bringing a podcast to you next week. Why? Because sound is the new text. It’s going to be as compelling than Serial. So much Ozil bashing. Can’t wait.

HAPPY FRIDAY BITCHES x

 

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  1. Nasri's Mouth

    @RP

    Yeah, Drogba at his best was unplayable, (certainly by us!!) but if you look at his overall Premier league career, he was v. good not brilliant. (his PL goals/min ratio is about the same as Giroud)

    But, he probably gets legend status because of the good bits which were very good indeed

  2. Bamford10

    N5

    Sure, but do we need better to advance further in the CL and finish higher in the EPL? I think so.

    That’s enough about Giroud, though.

    I’ll tell you this: if we don’t sign a better CF this summer, not only will we not contend for the EPL title next season (or advance past the CL QF) I am confident that Giroud will not play nearly as well as he has this year and we’ll look back at this season as his Ramsey-like purple patch.

    And I WILL say ‘I told you so’ if this happens. 😉

  3. N5

    “And I WILL say ‘I told you so’ if this happens. ;)”

    It doesn’t matter to me, I think L’Oreal is a squad player, but one that I would certainly keep. I’m just wanting him to be assessed fairly in the criticism as he’s now awful and is in fact having a very good period.

    We need to be fair to players, playing well.

  4. salparadisenyc

    ‘Jaw dropped when I saw Anelka”

    Came in as a baby, man he had it all at the age of 18 or whatever he was.
    Scored that goal against Newcastle to secure the FA cup. Thought he was going to be the ultimate striker for us, all got a bit weird and so did he. Had to really hand it to Wenger though, sold him to Madrid for astronomical fee in those times and bought Henry for less than half the profit. Apparently Wenger bought Colney with other half of Anelka’s fee. What a deal that turned out to be.

    Spoiled with striker indeed.
    Like him or not Wenger was a boss in his day.

  5. mysticleaves

    Bamford

    Its hard to improve a team that has won so much this year. But I would definitely buy LW and a CM and GK. End of.

  6. Romford Ozil Pele

    Sal, ridiculous deal. Bought him for 500k and sold him for £23.5m. Bare in mind that this was in 1999 too, ridiculous deal! Anelka was a great striker, badly advised by his brothers at a young age. Shame he never settled.

    Lol here’s a stat for you, L’Oreal has scored more goals in 2015 than CR7!!

    As if it’s a comparison anyway, one cares about his hair and the other is a top class French forward 😉

  7. Dissenter

    Bamford,
    “The best players play well in those moments; Giroud did not. He SHOULD be judged negatively for that.”
    How about we judge Thierry for fucking up in the biggest game of his Arśenal career – the 2006 CL final.
    Ronaldo (Brazilian) for freezing in the 1998 WC finals against France.
    Aguero, on Wednesday against Barcelona
    Costa, in the return fixture against PSG

    You really come across as a comedian sometimes, trying to define a player based on a singular game.

  8. Dissenter

    We have had 15 goal scorers this season, the highest diversity of scorers in the entire league.
    We CAN win the league with Giroud, the other strikers have to do their beat when they get their chances.

  9. mysticleaves

    “Dissenter March 21, 2015 19:40:34
    Bamford,
    “The best players play well in those moments;
    Giroud did not. He SHOULD be judged negatively
    for that.”
    How about we judge Thierry for fucking up in the
    biggest game of his Arśenal career – the 2006 CL
    final.
    Ronaldo (Brazilian) for freezing in the 1998 WC
    finals against France.
    Aguero, on Wednesday against Barcelona
    Costa, in the return fixture against PSG
    You really come across as a comedian sometimes,
    trying to define a player based on a singular game.”

    Couldn’t have said it any better..

  10. mysticleaves

    Drogba scored the odd spectacular goals, yes. Was he known as a skillful striker? NO! Was he efficient? YES! Was he “limited”(as per Bamford)? YES! But Chelsea had their best moments with him spearheading.

    With these points, I strongly feel Arsenal can win the league with Giroud. And he CAN even have a better season than this one of which I WOULDN’T tell you “I told you so” cos in football nothing is set in stone.

  11. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Not much chance of Hull doing much is there? Haven’t followed them recently but I know last time I heard about them they were doing pretty badly?

  12. tunnygriffboy

    Going to go back and read comments in a moment. Hope nobody too upset with the second half performance. Man u, Monaco and Newcastle all away in last 12 days. Won them all. More happy about 3 points than performance. They ran themselves into the ground midweek. Thumbs up to the boys 🙂 🙂

  13. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc

    To be honest, I’m not even thinking about us winning the league, we’re too far behind, it was only said in jest

    looking at it, Hull have 10 points from the their last 6 home games, Chelsea have 13 from their last 6 aways so they’re the favourites. And if Hull did get a result, there’ll be so many gooners getting carried away with it.

    But all I’m really interested in is the Pool/ManU game.

  14. Rustygunner

    Danny Welbeck needs a loan deal, preferably to a lower division team. He needs the tough competition that has Falcao scared. Selling him in the summer would destroy his confidence.

  15. GuNZ

    Shit, slept right through and missed the game – forgot to set the weekend alarm. Up now, read the reports, and it sounds like a typical Arsenal 2-0 up should have buried it then held on by our fingernails performance. But we won!

    And my oh my, this Giroud humble pie I’m eating sure tastes good. On my second helping . . .

    Credit where credit’s due . . . well done Olivier. My reverse psychology strategem is paying dividends. I shall advise your people of our appointment for this coming week. It appears we are making progress.

  16. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    Yeah I think so too,

    But Liverpool looked really ordinary against Blackburn and against Swansea they weren’t much better, and ManU played better against us, and definitely better against Spurs, so I don’t think it’s as cut and dried as it would have been 6 weeks ago.

  17. roaaary

    Id really like to see us try a 352 formation like this
    ———————OSPINA———-
    ————-KOZ—MERT–GABRIEL
    CHAMBERS—–COQ——-MONREAL
    ———–RAMSEY—-CAZORLA
    ——————-SANCHEZ
    ——————–GIROUD

  18. roaaary

    Or sanchez up with giroud. I think it would allow us to hold the ball in midfield but also push sanchez further forward

  19. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Spurs have conceded 6 goals in 2 games now, so I wouldn’t really judge any United resurgence against them. But I do agree they’re starting to play better driven by Fellaini’s and Rooney’s form.

    Liverpool, as you say, haven’t looked great recently, but I do think their pace and movement up front will prove too much for United.

  20. roaaary

    @nasri i quite like chambers crossing ability and with koz behind i think his pace wouldnt be an issue. Bellerin would be good too but i think hes very young still and needs protection

  21. Nasri's Mouth

    @cesc appeal

    It was more about how well they played rather than the scoreline, but sometimes it’s hard to judge how well a team is playing when the other side is terrible.

    I’ve only seen ManU against Spurs and us recently, so can’t comment more than that.

    Would be nice if they picked up a few hamstring injuries between them though

  22. roaaary

    I think united are fucked with their remaining games. A tough run. Liverpool on the other hand have a few home games and are on form. I think we will win 5 of 8 remaining and united 6 with liverpool 7or 8

  23. roaaary

    I hate the thought of it,but i think they will. I think liverpool are playing solidly if not perfectly at the moment and think theyll be too much for us

  24. mysticleaves

    Roaary I’d like to think we will beat Liverpool ate the Ems and also Chavs. Of 8, we have 5home and only United away. Pretty good for 2nd spot at least.

  25. Leedsgunner

    Just have seen our two EPL fixtures as at home versus Liverpool followed by at home versus Chelsea. Talk about a crucial April. I’m going to out on a limb here and say PROVIDED that we have our key players fit and fresh — I think we will get 6 points. I just have a premonition that we will win over Liverpool and Chelsea… I mean we have to be positive right? We’ve beaten City away, won at Old Trafford… surely beaten Maureen is next on the list?

    Am I just deluding myself with positivity?

  26. roaaary

    I think the most important match is tomorrows game pool vs united. I reckon pool will win that and set them off on a run. Those emotional scousers are all about confidence. I reckon we will beat them cup finàl though. Id love that on gerrards sign off

  27. Cesc Appeal

    Got an international break between us and Liverpool, so will be a weird game for both teams, always a bit unpredictable after internationals.

    But, so long as we line up properly (nothing like playing Chambers at RB etc) and don’t shoot ourselves in the foot we should see off Liverpool. They aren’t that special…frankly no one is that special right now, Chelsea were about the only ‘special’ team in the league and they are starting to puff a bit.

    Say that, probably run out 5-0 winners or something tomorrow now.

  28. roaaary

    Leeds i love your positivity but lets be realistic. Maureen and brenda have the technical upper hand on wenger. Playing at home will mess for the liverpool game. Wenger wont wana play defensive at home. Chelsea always beat us. Not even a contest most times

  29. roaaary

    Watching spurs game on sky. Worst thing about them is they play well but have so many average players.

    My worry is pochettino will sign some class additions this summer and theyll be a danger next year.

    They have a good system and style

  30. Leedsgunner

    I wish we would pull Sanchez out of internationals — from all the match reports I’ve read he sounds he had an indifferent game. Where’s a pesky injury when you need one? (Obviously not a serious one, just enough to pull him out…)

  31. Cesc Appeal

    roaary

    Spurs always threaten to make a name for themselves but never quite do.

    To be honest, if Wenger makes the right additions to the squad in the summer we should be looking at a title challenge, not a fourth place fight again.

    Big if…but it’s in Wenger’s hands.

  32. mysticleaves

    Lol. CA your not really Chambers number fan are you?

    Roaary a draw between pool and utd would suit us most though and I pray for that. That keeps us at 4 and 5points above 4th and 5th respectively.

  33. Cesc Appeal

    roaary

    Gabriel was really good in the first half, he’s excellent at reading play and niping in to snatch a ball away from a player or closing off the space they want to move into.

    Hard to judge him in the second because it was just a terrible half where we were clinging on for great swathes. Though he did make a few good clearing headers and blocks.

    Looks a decent defender and I would certainly be giving him a run in the side over Mert, very combative, very fast like Kozz and reads the game just as well as Kozz as well.

  34. mysticleaves

    Tottenham has one of the best keepers in the league but have conceded 45goals. Lol.

    Either the stats do really lie or their defence is a whole lot of shyte!

  35. salparadisenyc

    If Wenger was smart he’d take Sanchez, Ozil and Cazorla and pull em from next weeks internationals.

    Vital 3 points today. Our next game is April 4th, needed to go into that break with a victory.

  36. Cesc Appeal

    mystic

    I think he will make a good CB and his feet are quite good for a defender going forward…mostly.

    But at RB he is a disaster waiting to happen, too slow, too ponderous, he’s the Walcott of defenders in that he wants to be a CB so he seems to gravitate to the centre of defence, he switches off as well and leaves the wide player lots of space to exploit.

    Nothing against Chambers, I just hate it when he plays RB, virtually every time he does we have major issues.

    Was happy when we signed him, still am, I think he will be a good CB…but please…pretty…pretty please with icing and a cherry on top, Wenger, no more Chambers at RB.

  37. Cesc Appeal

    Sal

    Was saying to Romford earlier, when Wenger took Sanchez off I was sort of hoping he was going to pull the old ‘he’s got a slight knock’ thing.

    I would.

  38. mysticleaves

    True Cesc Appeal. I think he’s made for the centre. With training he would be a beast there; koscielny-like….hopefully

    On the other hand I can’t wait to say Jenko back next season, I believe in him (much like I believed in Coq before he got his chance). What do you think of him as a player and his situation with us?

  39. mysticleaves

    CA, Chambers stats from the match by 7am kickoff

    “Chambers led all players with 9/12 tackles on the day
    which is a tremendous amount of work, especially
    when you consider that he was also the game’s
    second most prolific passer in the attacking third,
    completing 15/19 passes and 1/3 crosses. And fourth
    overall in passing with 38/50. He even had 2/4
    dribbles, was 2/2 in attacking aerial duels, and had 4
    interceptions.”
    Doesn’t really look bad for a right back eh. These stats must be a lie from the game we watched…

  40. roaaary

    Good to hear gabriel played well. I worried when i saw him play before. He does nip in but also gets caught out. Him and koscielny both like to play the same sort of role.

    I think spurs have a shite defence. Thats what i mean about additions. A cb, lb and dm and theyre a very good team. A winger needed too. They have average players but a very effective style.

    With regards to chambers i think he could be a john terry like player if coached properly. Im just not sure arsenal are the best club for him. I think he could be top class as a cb though

  41. roaaary

    Also i watched jenks closely today. Again he got caught dawdling on the ball a lot. Positionally he is better at west ham but thats because he doesnt have to go forward as much.

    I love he is a goonsr but bellerin and debuchy are better

  42. Cesc Appeal

    mystic

    I don’t care what the stats say, he always drops us in it at RB. Do you remember his Swansea performance at RB…still have nightmares about that.

    Needs time to develop as a CB though, a RB he is not. Though we have a star in Bellerin I think. When he came on today his performance was really mature, knowing he had to hold the ball for us and close down to space to stem the Newcastle tide.

    I cannot wait to hear all about his DNA in a few seasons and listen to Pique telling us on twitter to release him from captivity 😉

  43. roaaary

    Stats dont tell you that opposition target chambers at rb and dont mention the amount of crosses allowed into the box from his side

  44. Cesc Appeal

    RSPCA

    I can’t really see a future for him, Debuchy will be starter, Bellerin understudy and future starter, Jenkinson is 23 now, he will need regular football with someone.

    Likelihood is we sell him to West Ham in the summer.

  45. Nasri's Mouth

    Chambers has good games and bad (ish) games at RB where he gets caught out of position. Bellerin gets caught out a bit too, but he’s quick enough to recover.

    I think it’s something that both can improve, hardly fixed in stone.

    I also think that sometimes the way we play, pushing fullbacks up the pitch we have to accept that sometimes we’ll lose possession when they’re too far forward, but the trick is we have players like Ramsey and Coq who can move across to cover. Too often we’ve had the fullback out of position AND Ramsey AND our DM too far forward.

    (or we’ve had Song standing there looking dazed as the opposition run straight past him)

  46. Marko

    I hear what CA gets at with chambers but to be honest I can only remember 2/3 games where he looked incredibly dodgy and at Swansea he was a shambles but overall he’s done pretty good for his first season so far. Very promising player

    On Giroud given how long he was out for and his limitations the fact he could end up with 25 goals is fantastic to him. Certainly not as bad as some think. Even though the idea of him hitting 25 goals makes me wonder how many Suarez would of scored for us had he signed or Dybala/Lacazette if he signs next season

  47. Wallace

    chances are we’ll end the season with a first choice back six of which only Koscielny started the season as first choice :

    Ospina
    Bellerin – Gabriel – Koscielny – Monreal
    Coquelin

    i like the evolution, but that degree of change is surely a little bit unusual.

  48. Nasri's Mouth

    Jenkinson’s been a little unlucky with his timing.

    Debuchy is young enough to have a couple more years at the top and Bellerin is just about old enough to be really pushing the starting RB.

    I don’t think Jenkinson can wait until Debuchy goes and even then he might not be happy being back up.

    I’d say there’s still improvement to come from him, but probably not at Arsenal

  49. roaaary

    Giroud does a job. Its like expecting coquelin to get assists. Giroud sets goals up and links play and will never be a great goal scorer.

    Saying that he doesnt half get a load of chances playing for arsenal. A half decent finisher would smash him for goals in this team. Lucky his competition is the useless welbz.

    I think its a case of team or individual and wenger has gone for the team player

  50. Marko

    Also gotta mention the really bad luck that happened to Fraiser Forster today. Having an absolute break out year he was and now he’ll be out 6 months. Feel for the lad.

  51. Nasri's Mouth

    roaaary: A half decent finisher would smash him for goals in this team.

    Not all all, this season his goals per shot ratio is close to 1 in 4, which is actually very good indeed.

  52. roaaary

    Redruth you clearly havent watched the rest of his arsenal games where he has controlled and dominated our defence. All players make mistakes but koz is one of our most consistent performers

  53. roaaary

    @nasri i just feel a player so strong in the air should score more headed goals. Outside the box be is unplayable in the air

  54. N5

    roaaary, redtruth is just marble/dial. Don’t mistake him for a person, he’s just that usual automated program that runs the same script over and over.

    10 print Kos is crap
    20 goto 10
    Run

    10 print Ramsey is crap
    20 goto 10
    Run

    10 print N5 thinks Costa is WC
    20 goto 10
    Run

  55. Wallace

    if Hull can get something out of their game against Chelsea tomorrow….you’d have to be gambon to not start wondering a little bit.

  56. roaaary

    @wallace we wont win the league. Look at remaining fixtures. I think we will sneak 4th. Its going to be tight. I just hope we dont lose momentum after liverpool and chelsea

  57. Wallace

    roaaary

    we have 3 tough games and 5 very winnable games left. two of those tough games are at home….that said, i think Chelsea are just a little too far ahead.

  58. Nasri's Mouth

    @Roaaary

    I know we’re actually somewhere near the top as far as goals from set pieces but I’d have to check out how Giroud’s heading ratio compares to other strikers, but I’d suggest that given his overall goal scoring ratio this season, he’d be as good as anyone else.

    Basically a half decent striker wouldn’t get any more goals at the moment, because Giroud is definitely playing better than a half decent striker.

    Of course he might drop next season, (I’d be very surprised and really pleased if he maintains it next season in fact) but he’s scoring as well as anyone at the moment, and better than most

  59. Nasri's Mouth

    If (and it’s a huuuge IF) we win our next game, we’ll have the same number of points as we did the same time last season, but with a much better goal difference.

  60. Wallace

    NM

    i know our recent record against the top sides still isn’t great, but most of the horror shows have been away from home. at home we’re usually the better side, even if that hasn’t often been translated into victories. but home to Liverpool i’d make us favourites every time.

  61. roaaary

    Nasri i actually rate giroud. I think he is a great striker and massively underrated but just not for his finishing.

    Stats aside his issue is the chances he has without shooting which dont get counted. Im talking about the times he doesnt get to a good pass or doesnt shoot when he should.

    Also the amount of headers he should win in the area. I just think a lot of strikers would beat him for hoals scored playing for arsenal

  62. roaaary

    I think if united win tomorrow we will get 3rd above liverpool. I think we have winnable games but also if form drops we could be in big trouble. I think pool and chelsea will beat us in our current form

  63. roaaary

    Bale wont go. He wants to prove himself on the biggest stage. As much as we love the prem, we must acknowledge real, barca and bayern is where the worlds best play. Mourinho would have him at lb anyway the boring bastard

  64. N5

    Do you all remember when Gibbs got sent off against the Chavs in error for Ox. Well how come today when McAuley got sent off in place of Dawson the ref wasn’t called a self hating racist? 😀

  65. Cesc Appeal

    RSPCA

    Yeah for sure, the whole uncomfortable situation over there for Bale, the fact the fans are going cold on him, the fact Madrid are a fad club, they will move onto the next fad whether that’s Hazard or Sterling or Reus or whoever.

    But I would think they will look for toward £100 Million for Bale from United or Chelsea. If I was Munich I’d be in there for him, considering Robben isn’t getting any younger, Ribery as well and they do sometimes seem to lack a bit of what Bale brings…but then he isn’t a Guardiola player really.

    At £73 Million I’d love to see us sell Walcott and try and grab him for that price, very doubtful but to at least try…has the added bonus that there would be more Spurs despair and vitriol than there was for Campbell, worth at least £30 Million alone 😉

    But likelihood is he will either stay put or move to United for around £100 Million and football really will have gone absolutely nuts.

  66. Cesc Appeal

    Come on Pedro!

    N5 has been hoping for this day since the blogs beginning, foretelling of the time where the sun is eclipsed and so to is the post.

    Don’t want to see his smug strut if we pass midnight and there’s no post!

  67. Cesc Appeal

    Could you imagine if Madrid fans had to be Arsenal fans for a season? Would be fascinating to see how that would go down.

  68. N5

    Ha Ha, I’m already wearing the no blog crown and cape ready/poised to run the streets of Hastings shouting “the end is here, I warned you all” and laughing maniacally.

  69. Cesc Appeal

    Before hearing, ‘sir, put your penis away or I will taze you…in the penis.’

    N5 wheels around and starts frantically playing with himself yelling, ‘give it your best shot copper, I usually pay for that sort of treatment.’

  70. roaaary

    Ha those madrid fans must be horrible. Akin to liverpool fans who are convinced theyrd the best and deserve trophies.

    I think bale will stay out of personal goals. Leaving will prove he wasnt up to it

  71. Cesc Appeal

    It’s past the watershed:

    Cech
    Debuchy, Gabriel, Kozz, Monreal
    Pogba, Ramsey
    Sanchez, Ozil, Bale
    Giroud

    If Wenger just decided, you know what, fuck it I am old as shit and I have two attempts left at the UCL.

  72. Cesc Appeal

    Didn’t Pedro attend some form of work soiree last night or something? Wasn’t a substitute meant to full in? Alex? Is Alex doing a Walcott? Meant to come off the bench but when he does no one knows where he is? Anonymous…see what I did, I made a complaint fit my agenda 🙂

  73. bennydevito

    Yes, one day last summer, the only day I’ve ever known, was a really, really odd feeling, felt like an end of an era or something and not getting the daily grove was weird. I likened it at the time to not getting the daily paper through your door which you’ve been getting for years. Pedro came on and said he wasn’t a newspaper but i meant it as a term of endearment.

    Was a sad day.

  74. N5

    CA very good, well done, the Wal full cot was genius.

    Benny, he’s right, he isn’t a paper, but he is a paperboy, so if he doesn’t get on his little bike and deliver today’s blog in 13 minutes then I’m cancelling my subscription.

  75. Cesc Appeal

    N5

    Haha 😉

    I think we should find out where Pedro lives and shit through his letterbox, nothing says ‘Ooooooo, I’m frustrated at you’ more than dropping a big old Richard through someone’s letterbox

  76. N5

    Ha ha, let’s get a tube down to Archway and shit in his letterbox and then set fire to his bin, smash all his neighbours windows shouting send your bill to that lazy bastard Peter!!

  77. Cesc Appeal

    I love how we’re now misplacing our anger, the poor neighbours who probably don’t know what Le Grove is and so don’t understand our war cry as we’re defecating in their front room are going to be the casualties in this.

    By the way, we’ve moved from just delivering through the letterbox to full on breaking and entering now.

  78. Cesc Appeal

    N5

    You went looking for it…just so happened your streaking route took you to the police station did it? Just so happened you screamed ‘what you going to do, taze me?’

    Utter perv 😉

  79. Vince

    CA.
    Cech
    Debuchy, Gabriel, Kozz, Monreal
    Pogba, Ramsey
    Sanchez, Ozil, Bale
    Giroud.

    As good as that team is I will make 3 changes:
    1. Pogba – Too expensive, especially if Winger assuredly buys Bale. So I’ll leave it at Coquelin/Schneiderlin.
    2. Ramsey – Too tentative, inconsistent and generally a puppy. I’ll give that spot to a certain Sissoko. And not because of today alone, I’ve been routing for him for 3 years.
    3. Ozil – Swap him for Cazorla, personal preference.
    Guess that leaves us at:
    Cech
    Debuchy, Gabriel, Kozz, Monreal
    Schneiderlin, Sissoko
    Sanchez, Cazorla, Bale
    Giroud

  80. GuNZ

    I can now reveal that Pedro and I have spent the last 12 hours feting Giroud down the local Raglan Fisherman’s Club. Pedro is a little the worse for wear I am afraid and has asked me to pass on his apologies. At least I think that’s what he was saying through the bubbling vomit and drunken tears.

  81. GuNZ

    Deary me, I really should have put a circumflex in there – fêting – lest you all thought we doing something soft-boyish to our CF. He is rather attractive after all.

  82. GuNZ

    Alex, I’m afraid, has gone the way of all younger people who visit this town. They come with the intention of spending one day, two maybe, drawn by the fame of our surf beaches, and then a gentleman with a rastafarian ‘do offers them a ‘cigarette’ down the pub, they accept a slice of ‘cake’ made by the beautiful Giselle with her perfect orbs, an invitation to a party ensues, they wake up with a pair of breasts drawn on their shoulder-blades by Elsa, the Latvian gender-change shot-putter with the strap-on 9-incher and discover this is the place they’ve been looking for all their lives.

  83. qna

    A win is a win. But otherwise, last nights performance was an absolute shocking disgrace. That Newcastle team was decimated with injuries and suspensions and they absolutely dominated us in the 2nd half. Why is it that every defensive midfielder in the world looks like Pele’ when they play against us.

    I am so glad that Ozil was no where near that performance because I am sure the whole world would have been blaming him for that.

    The truth is this team needs a massive overhaul to compete for the league again and we are so much worse than the teams in Europe. We are the 8th richest club in the world, yet I doubt we would be in the top 20 as a football team.

    Welbeck – Doesnt have the technical ability to make a difference at a top club. Simple as that.

    Ramsey – Terrible team management to allow him to roam around like a CF. He will inevitably just get in the way of the actual CF. Make your runs from deep and be aware of the main striker who should always get right of way – thats his fucking job.

    Coquelin – I hope the guy had concussion because he was back to the Coq before he went on loan. He has potential, but we need a more reliable 1st choice. A first choice is a priority for us. Not the overrated Schneiderlain either. We should break the bank to get the best we can get here. PSG will need money to get Pogba, Di Maria, Benzema etc. Lets give them whatever they want for Verrati. He is 22 and we could build around him for the next decade. I guarantee if he is in our team for 10 years we will will trophies.

  84. underrated Coq

    “We should break the bank to get the best we can get here. PSG will need money to get Pogba, Di Maria, Benzema etc. Lets give them whatever they want for Verrati. He is 22 and we could build around him for the next decade. I guarantee if he is in our team for 10 years we will will trophies.”

    http://www.squawka.com/comparison-matrix#premier_league/2014/2015/francis_coquelin/126/126/380/0/p|ligue_1/2014/2015/marco_verratti/118/118/1315/0/p#tackles_won/aerial_duels_won/interceptions/blocks/clearances#avg

  85. qna

    UC, Those statistics dont mean much. Are you trying to say that Coquelin is a better player than Verrati?

    Those Coquelin stats are from a short period where Coq is playing in rare form. Based on last nights match, his form will start to taper off back to his normal level. Its like saying Harry Kane is as good as Messi and better than Ronaldo because Squaka says so.

    In the big matches, when quality counts Verrati is going to be a much more valuable player. There might be big games when a Verrati-Coquelin pairing will hold us in good stead, otherwise when Verrati is injured, suspended or needs a rest.

    Its a pipe dream anyway, but Verrati is miles better than Coquelin, regardless of what those statistics say.

  86. underrated Coq

    qna

    Quote: ” Those statistics don’t mean much. Are you trying to say that Coquelin is a better player than Verrati? ”

    How can stats not mean much ? How else do we compare players and their effectiveness in playing their position ? I’m not trying to say Coquelin is a better player than Veratti. I’m just pointing out that he’s been very effective at playing the DM role.

    Quote: “Those Coquelin stats are from a short period where Coq is playing in rare form.”

    15 league games is hardly a short period. He’s been playing well since November end.

    Quote: “Based on last nights match, his form will start to taper off back to his normal level.”

    Really? We must have been watching different games. He was superb in the first half, he tailed off a bit in the second half like the rest of his teammates. Overall I think he had an average to decent game.

    I think part of his struggle in the second half was because of Ramsey’s baffling desire to play as second striker to Giroud. Ramsey, at times, completely abandoned his defensive duties and Coq was left to do the defensive duties alone.

    Tbf, I was really looking forward to see the Coq-Rambo partnership but yesterday’s performance left me disappointed. Rambo’s really got to curb his attacking instincts down a bit and he has to learn when to bomb forward and when to just sit in the midfield.

    If Arsenal are in an attacking spell, it would make sense for him to make runs from midfield but he does the same even when we are under cosh and it doesn’t help the team.

    Quote: “In the big matches, when quality counts Verrati is going to be a much more valuable player. ”

    Veratti might be but so was Coquelin at the Etihad and at Old Trafford.

    Quote: “Its a pipe dream anyway, but Verrati is miles better than Coquelin, regardless of what those statistics say.”

    Regardless of stats? I’m sorry but I like to give more weight to statistics than mere opinions.

    Don’t get me wrong. I do happen to agree with your opinion that we need another capable DM and I also agree that Schneiderlin tends to get overrated on Le-Grove. But if Wenger does sign a midfielder, its most likely gonna be Schneiderlin and I wouldn’t be disappointed with that. He’s a very tidy player and he was superb at Stamford Bridge.

  87. qna

    UC: “How can stats not mean much ? How else do we compare players and their effectiveness in playing their position ? I’m not trying to say Coquelin is a better player than Veratti. I’m just pointing out that he’s been very effective at playing the DM role.”

    My point is that Coqeulin’s stats are much better than Verrati, but Verrati is a much better player than Coquelin. He is also considerably more valuable. If you take all of these three points to be true, then it proves in point of fact that statistics often dont mean much in themselves.

    UC: “15 league games is hardly a short period. He’s been playing well since November end.”

    It is a short period to compare the performance of one unproven player against proven players. The same thing happened with Aaron Ramsey. He had a relatively short period where he was exceptional and people got over-excited about his actual level of quality.

    UC: “Really? We must have been watching different games. He was superb in the first half, he tailed off a bit in the second half like the rest of his teammates. Overall I think he had an average to decent game.”

    Yes, we must have been. He was good in the first half. But he was shocking in the 2nd half. Switched off and was most at fault for the goal by not tracking the obvious run. Gave the ball away numerous times. Had a knock to his head and I hope that this was the reason, but you cant have a DM that makes mistakes like that. That the position where certain goals will be conceded because the way we play all our players including defenders will be out of position. This has been the problem with playing Wilshere and Rasmey deep in the past as well. I think he has been playing above himself. Hope I am wrong.

    UC: “Veratti might be but so was Coquelin at the Etihad and at Old Trafford.”

    Great performances I agree. Where was he at Monaco. Look at City this year. They are basically a team that will have to rebuild entirely. It wasnt just us that have taken them to the sword this year. Same with United, how good were they really on the day. How good will Coquelin be against a Madrid, Barca or Bayern. Still has to prove himself.

    UC: “Regardless of stats? I’m sorry but I like to give more weight to statistics than mere opinions.”

    Of course. I agree with that statement. But in this case I think it is clear that if you compare Verrati to Coquelin in terms of the players respective dollar value and quality, one is significantly more highly rated than the other – this would be a consensus of opinion that exclude the opinion of PSG fans and Arsenal fans. So you would be unwise to make your future plans based on statistics – because they lie and this is a perfect example.

  88. qna

    UC. Its been bugging me. In my last post I said “Yes, we must have been. He was good in the first half. But he was shocking in the 2nd half. ”

    Ok. Now I have got a bit over the top in this statement. He was not shocking int he 2nd half either. I would like to back track on this point. I may have been trying to justify my position that we should get a more high profile DM in the summer. I thought he was responsible for the goal, but I may be giving him too much blame here. He also gave the way the ball a few times and lost the ball a few times, which he hasnt been doing up until now. I think this is where my feeling is coming from that he is back to the player he was and that he might be tapering off. I really hope I am wrong.

    I shouldnt have been so harsh on the boy. He has been an absolute hero this year. But I would still like us to go out and get a world class Verrati. But no more average class players like Schneiderlain. I would prefer even Coquelin to him, which also shows that I may have been ranting a bit much.

  89. underrated Coq

    qna

    Quote: “My point is that Coqeulin’s stats are much better than Verrati, but Verrati is a much better player than Coquelin.”

    Again, facts VS opinion.

    Quote: “He is also considerably more valuable.”

    You think stats don’t give the true picture but you believe ”market-value” gives a true picture ?

    I’m never gonna understand this judging players based on their market-value/transfer fee thing. Also, maybe it has something to do with the fact that Coquelin has only started giving eye-catching performances this season ?

    Quote: “The same thing happened with Aaron Ramsey. He had a relatively short period where he was exceptional and people got over-excited about his actual level of quality.”

    Ramsey was good in the second half of the season before last, he was exceptional almost entirely last season, he’s been average-good this season where he’s been constantly disrupted with injuries.

    So what is your opinion about Ramsey’s ”actual-level” ?

    Quote: “But he was shocking in the 2nd half. Switched off and was most at fault for the goal by not tracking the obvious run. Gave the ball away numerous times. ”

    Almost the entire team were struggling in the second half. Really harsh to blame it all on Coquelin when Ramsey, Cazorla, Welbeck–the more seasoned pros’– were arguably worse than Coquelin.

    Quote: ” you cant have a DM that makes mistakes like that. That the position where certain goals will be conceded because the way we play all our players including defenders will be out of position.”

    Yeah, lets lambaste Coquelin for that single, unforgivable error. I’m sure the likes of Veratti don’t ever make mistakes in matches. I’m sure they are 100% efficient.

    I just find it really harsh to blame the goal entirely to Coquelin. Rambo was caught upfield and the positioning of our defenders esp Chambers wasn’t the best.

    Quote: “Where was he at Monaco.”

    Against Monaco at the Emirates? He was taken off by Wenger around the 70th minute and we conceding a silly goal. At Monaco? Well, they hardly attacked. He was taken off again and it was a comfortable victory in the end.

    Quote: ” Look at City this year. They are basically a team that will have to rebuild entirely. It wasnt just us that have taken them to the sword this year. Same with United, how good were they really on the day. ”

    Come now, That’s a depressing way of looking at things man.

    Quote: “How good will Coquelin be against a Madrid, Barca or Bayern. Still has to prove himself.”

    You can use variations of these kinda statements to every player in the World and that includes Veratti.

    Quote: “I think it is clear that if you compare Verrati to Coquelin in terms of the players respective dollar value and quality, one is significantly more highly rated than the other”

    I don’t know how you confidently make claims like these regarding market-values. Again, Coquelin’s only just come into the picture. Obviously he won’t, as of yet, have the same value as some of the more seasoned players.