Can standing at games ever be wrong? | 3 players I demand Arsenal buy this summer

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Happy good morning to you all. Has the dust settled? Do you need a read that’ll hoover up all that misery with the force of two Dyson handhelds? I think you do.

Let’s go…

This weekend we take on Everton. Arguably our sternest test since City. Why? Well, it’s all to play for in the league with United and now Liverpool in the mix for 4th (even though they have a shocker of a run). We were run off the park by Palace, we were out played by Monaco and now we’ll go to Everton knowing what the teams around us have done the day before. Everton is a test of mental strength. The players will be embarrassed, down and tired. They have to lift themselves. They have to prove to the fans they’re a proper team.

Bouncebackability… let’s bring back that word, for this weekend, we need it in the truckload.

What is apparent is we desperately need a new keeper. Ospina is underperforming so badly at the moment, it’s almost worth dropping him for Sunday. I don’t trust him watching him, I can’t imagine what it’s like playing with him. He’s a car crash that’s happening. Let’s put an end to this madness and just bring in Chezzer. Never thought I’d hear myself saying that. Interesting that Opta has him down with the best save percentage ratio in the Premiership. Be interesting to understand how they calculate save, that man tips a duffed back pass around the post. Statistics are important, but standalone doesn’t tell you much.

This is my issue with some of the accounts that tweet statistics. They’re not analysts. You rarely see good data or actual insight. Anyone can open up a £3 a month stats account… not many can actually tell you a story worth listening to. Even those who can tell a story tend to bore you into oblivion with over the top complexities you’re not supposed to understand. We used to get that a lot in social media. Agencies would claim they undertook social listening, which was basically just a pie chart that counted bad words against good words. They’d sell that as social insights. BUT THERE WERE NO INSIGHTS AND THE DATA WAS INACCURATE. Drove me cray. Totally cray.

Anyway, numbers beef aside, Wenger needs to go big this summer. He needs to curb the urge to buy another average goalkeeper… I’m sure he does it on purpose so not to scare his favourite too much. We need someone like Lloris.

Another player it’s clear we need is a centre midfielder. We need a player to boss the middle of the park. It’s clear Ramsey has lost his sparkle. We can’t depend on that coming back. Jack? Jury is out. He is a man of regression. Coquelin? Jury is out. We need someone who is consistent, a player who makes a difference and someone who has the power and pace you need. That man is Schneiderlin. I love him. He’s going to make it all better. In fact, here’s my idea… and you’re going to like it. Let’s go £40m for Morgan AND Forster. What you saying?

I can hear you… you’re saying it’s great idea.

I guess the final piece of the jigsaw is a world class striker. We can’t keep pretending that Giroud is going to become Drogba next year because he reached 50 goals quicker. We can’t rely on WELBZ becoming a world class finisher over night, that’ll take hard work and time… and Chuba is too young. We need to find world class talent. We need to do it this summer. Suarez would be nice. Let’s do that.

HERE IS AN IDEA: You tell me the best strikers in Europe who are attainable and I’ll run with them tomorrow. Together, we are stronger.

HOT DOGS: I noticed that the buns had improved and the product looked delicious at the game in the week. Is this because Alex has been hitting Delaware hard with his bitching about the dry dogs? I hear so. Power of bitching, erryday.

So… that time, you write about your anger about seeing something go off in the stadium and you don’t have the full story? Yeah, that happened (I think writing without the facts is called modern journalism… ZING). One of the guys who was in amongst the fans having an argument about standing got in touch.

Story goes, no one was standing. A drunk guy decided he wanted to go solo. Steward told him to sit. When the steward went. He stood and was quite obnoxious to those around him. So he was told off. His standing was forcing everyone else to stand.

So where do you go with this? You can see it from both angles. The stander wants to stand in a big game. But the people around him don’t. This is a common issue. I quite often have an older lady behind me who likes to sit. She’s no tourist. But I like to stand and can’t see if I sit. I’m over 6ft. She certainly struggles with the view.

So what do you do? What do the club do? For me, it splices open the safe standing debate. I want to stand at games. All the games, unless I’m nursing a hangover… Then I want to exercise the right to lie down. These guys have landed in an altercation because they’re sticking up for the majority around them. Which really, is a commendable action considering some of the debate we had last week about people keeping their mouths shut when bad behaviour is going off. But is there an issue when the majority vibe is to sit?

Ideally, for the atmosphere, we’d want the majority standing. But I’m talking as a 30 year old man, I’m not everyone and my view is populist. Football is for everyone. Problem is, the club cater for sitters, not standers. We need to open up standing. Cheaper tickets, more noise, more people and an acceptance that all fans do not sure the same taste.

… funny, we cater upwards! If you have money, you can get a damn beer in the Champions League! I know you need that. But, I’m being populist again. Fuck the rich.

Anyway, always two sides of a story. Where do you stand on this one?

344 Responses to “Can standing at games ever be wrong? | 3 players I demand Arsenal buy this summer”

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  1. Micheal

    We can talk ’till the cows come home about which players we should sell and which we should buy this summer – blah, blah, blah.

    It’s not the players – its the management of the players that needs to be sorted.

  2. Romford Ozil Pele

    Lol Bankz….

    “It’s not the players – its the management of the players that needs to be sorted.”

    Agreed. We’ve moved on from the days of Denilson, Lord Bendtner and Almunia and the same issues still rear its ugly head. It’s a management issue for me. That doesn’t mean we don’t need a new striker though. L’Oreal was nothing short of shambolic the other night. It’s also looking curtains for Per

  3. Wallace

    as Mourinho said, we have a very talented squad. we shouldn’t be losing at home to Monaco. why can’t Wenger get the players to think better/smarter on the pitch? we’ve got some intelligent players, but it’s like everyone gets caught up in a herd mentality.

  4. Bobby 7

    Safe standing sections should be feasible to implement and would raise the atmosphere as well as providing people with a cheaper alternative to watch a game.

  5. Leedsgunner

    “There’s no one to blame individually. He has his chances and missed them. On the night everything went against us. Missing chances was only one of the characteristics of the night
    ‘What is important now is to respond well to that disappointment. I expect a strong response because it’s a different competition and we have an opportunity to stabilise our position in top three.’
    ‘We’re still in competition but we have a difficult task but it’s still feasible. It looks a terrible week for English club I don’t have any rational explanation for that. It’s just a shock that hit us.’

    Wenger is right and wrong. The whole team did play badly but that doesn’t mean this debacle should be brushed under the carpet — as just one of those things, which is what Wenger is doing.

    Furthermore predictably, he’s wheeling out the well worn excuse of “what’s important is how we respond…” without thinking again that we shouldn’t be getting into these situations in the FIRST place.

    He says there’s no one to blame individually. He’s wrong. There is, the one person he always refuses to blame.

    Himself.

  6. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Furthermore predictably, he’s wheeling out the well worn excuse of “what’s important is how we respond…” without thinking again that we shouldn’t be getting into these situations in the FIRST place.

    He says there’s no one to blame individually. He’s wrong. There is, the one person he always refuses to blame.

    Himself.”

    AMEN. Tired worn out excuses. Enough of these false dawns.

  7. Bankz

    I could suggest we buy Messi, Ronaldo, kongdobia & Manuel Neuer & we would still get tanked by City, Chelsea, Man United & any averagely good side in Europe.

    It’s the management that needs replacement first as wenger has lost it totally. I doubt if he even knew Monaco hadn’t conceded for 14hrs before our game at the Emirates.

    Give Wenger the Barca & Madrid squad merged together & I would still insist he won’t win the EPL or Champions league

  8. Romford Ozil Pele

    So Jack has gone under the knife AGAIN…. Wenger has said the operation was planned for the end of the season but had to be brought forward as Jack felt discomfort in training. It should only keep him out for a few days apparently but we’ll see what happens. Let’s just hope he’s not turning into another Diaby.

  9. ThierryReanimated

    Well, well, well. All I can say is a result is required @Everton and no other result will do.
    As for players Sneid is a must to give us that bite in the middle, there are a number of players if we go hard for that are more than capable to improve our GK situation. As for strikers, if Arsene says there is no one out there of the quality we require then the man needs lynched. Seriously! Its not like we have to look far to find anyone better. If we done business early we could have this all sorted already. I’d take Forster, no bother there for the GK competition and if we had a clue we’d already have Dybala and lacerette squared away!!

  10. Leedsgunner

    Plus Wenger is also trying the classic deflection technique of pointing to how poorly the other English clubs did in Europe.

    Personally I don’t give one hairy f*** how the other clubs got on. I care about HOW we did. End of. We played abysmally. True accountability focuses on your performance rather than trying to look at how poorly others do to justify yourself.

    Although if the other clubs did do well, Wenger would have deflected that again by saying it’s the Europa League. He has an excuse for all seasons.

    I’m tired of his excuses. At least man up and own up to the fact that our team was arrogant poorly prepared mentally and tactically inept.

    He trains the players, he buys the players, he chooses the players and he stes the players out in their formation — but still he has the audacity to say “No one is to blame.”

    Ugggh, what an utter spineless coward. He is not deserving of this great club.

    THE LOT OUT, not JUST WENGER.

  11. Matt

    As many people are saying, it is down to the manager. We have far to many games like this. We go in to them the favourites and come out losers. Yes, every big team has games like this, but not that often. Arsene Wenger can not do tactics. He may still watch hours and hours of footage before the game, but he’s doing something wrong in his analysis. During the invincible season, he said he could just send the players onto te pitch without giving specific directions as the players knew what to do. It seems he still does that but with an inferior team.

    Which other manager in the premier league, if they have Arsenes resources, would have stuck with Szchezny in goal, no decent defensive midfielder, no world class striker and no back up in defence. Imagine Mourinho doing that.

    We need a manager who can motivate the players, who will drop and sell players who are obviously not good enough even if they have been at the club since they were 16.

    Going on a 6 game winning run isn’t going to fix the deeper problems which stop us from winning the major titles.

  12. gambon

    Of course the stats dont say everything.

    The fact is the average person doesnt have the capacity to understand and rationalise even basic stats.

    Look at some of these “blogs” on Newsnow. They clain to show a statistical breakdown of a player, but its so simplistic its stupid.

    “XYZ scored 3 goals and has 3 assists, with a high pass completion of 79%”

    When science one day manages to break down a player by statistics, it will largely be too complex for the human brain to decode, no different to games like Chess & Poker which the biggest supercomputers in the world still cant solve.

    However sites like statsbomb are making progress.

  13. NamibiaGooner

    The point raised about statistics is valid.
    From the Monaco match there is a stat about Ozil covering 11.26 km during the match but I watched the game (on tv) and I cannot believe he worked hard anywhere close to those levels.

    But that’s the thing about stats, Ozil may have cover that much ground but it was probably chasing 10 yards behind the opposition player. That is not working hard, if he was running that much and actually getting some tackles in to stop attacks then I would agree that he worked hard.
    What the article did was just to post a statistic that Ozil covered 11.26 km of ground during the match hence he worked hard but there is no further analysis to support that statement.

  14. Leedsgunner

    When Maureen talks about talks about what a great squad we have I doubt he means it… it’s all about points scoring between him and Wenger. They really do despise each other. It’s what he leaves unsaid about Wenger that is more cutting.

  15. Moray

    “Wenger has a knack when it comes to being humiliated when the whole world is watching.”

    Nicely out, Karim.

    He also has a fantastic ability to lose to the same opposing managers.

    He only gets away with it because he makes good copy for the tabloids, opposing managers have a vested interest in keeping him in situ, and other pundits have – or want to have – their noses in the Arsenal franchise trough.

  16. kapslock

    Wilshere is Diaby 2. I like him and he obviously loves the club but would I be against selling him this summer? No, considering we could still get good value for him. The players are too comfortable at Arsenal. Wilshere is on around £80k week. For what exactly? What has he achieved to merit that wage? They all need a good fucking kick up the ass along with the manager. It’s so boring

  17. Leedsgunner

    karim

    “Wenger has a knack when it comes to being humiliated when the whole world is watching.”

    lol. It must be getting boring and predictable like old Frasier reruns. Does WEnger still have the revered status in French Football?

  18. Hughie

    We need a new manager plain and simple. A manager that has a plan and is able to motivate. Not the clueless one we have now.

  19. Ishola

    I can’t stand that fvcking french weasel spinning and continually deflecting criticism. He’s shameful the way he goes on.

    From talking directly after the match in the third person as if he is detached from it all to now what I see in an above post where he lumps Arsenal’s dismal defeat with other english clubs in europe this week.

    This club will never kick on with this lying deceitful man as manager. He has been spinning, lying, deceiving the fans for years. You don’t get to be one of the top teams if you are not honest with what your aims are on the playing side. All we see from Wenger so many times is him trying to pull the wool over people’s eyes and then we wonder why his disciples show the same traits as the manager.

  20. Ishola

    And I’ve read before that Wenger deflects blame and lies and spins to protect his players. Bless him.

    Nonsense.

    He has on enough occasions thrown his players under a bus in interviews,

    It’s all self serving.

  21. Romford Ozil Pele

    Nah I do generally believe Mourinho rates some of Arsenal’s players. What he’s trying to do by bigging up the players is to place blame as to why Wenger can’t get more out of them. And it’s not something I disagree with tbh. Wenger is blessed in the sense that he has the most stable job in football. A cash rich club which will do the bare minimum each season – obviously that seems to placate the owners because if they weren’t happy, they would’ve sacked him by now.

  22. azed

    Bankz i be back soon.. Not really had much time for Le-grove or anything else this days.
    This season has witnessed me missing the largest amount of games since they started showing live games in Nigeria.

  23. karim

    Leeds

    Do you mean : Are the French Blind ?

    Well, they used to be just like the rest of us. Not anymore.

    He’s salvaged his legacy and that’s quite sad.

  24. azed

    On the post, I’m pretty sure Pedro once said Ospina brought calm to the back four. I can’t be bothered to search for the post.
    Do we need a new keeper? Yes

    Why don’t we take Cech like they took Cashley?

  25. Leedsgunner

    Romford

    Jack’s under the knife again is he? Source? (Not to doubt you obviously, but to confirm what you are saying)

    If true, it really is beyond a joke. In the past two weeks Wenger has repeatedly said nothing is wrong with Wilshere… he really does like to treat the fans of this club with contempt doesn’t he? Why can’t he just be honest? He’s found out sooner or later anyway.

    He continually brings himself, the players and the club into disrepute.

    What must he actually do to get sacked?

    …. Oh we have a lovely stadium though. 🙁

  26. Danny

    Lukaku injured? Everton might be tired from last nights game, either way we need a big response on Sunday especially as now the Scum and Liverpool are out of that Thursday night cup which for sure wasn’t in Wenger’s end of season plans.

  27. Romford Ozil Pele

    Leeds, Wenger said it in his press conference this morning. Most sites will report it imminently. Apparently it’s not set to keep him out long, only a few days but naturally one would be skeptical.

    “What must he actually do to get sacked?”
    Our owner is Kroenke. We’re institutionally screwed from the top.

  28. Leedsgunner

    karim

    “He’s salvaged his legacy and that’s quite sad.”

    Oui. Tres vrai. Shame he’s taking our club’s good name down with him.

  29. Paulinhi

    The fact is he would not have anything were it not for the unique blend of flair and George Graham players constantly lighting a fire under their arse.

    Take the Graham players away and we have a bunch of players that are incapable of maintaining intensity, because they certainly don’t get it from Wenger.

    Keown in the doucmentary once again showed how important players like him were. Half time of the Liverpool match Wenger was feeling sorry for himself and it needed Keown to get them going again.

    Wenger actively discourages that sort of galvanising so we get a bunch of drones who lack direction and individuality; homogenous listlessness results.

  30. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Bas Dost. Icardi. even Charlie Austin”

    All probably more clinical but they don’t improve Arsenal as a whole. They’re penalty box strikers. We need more than that. Check out the likes of Dybala/Vietto/Lacazette. Those are serious strikers.

  31. Paulinho

    The fact is he would not have anything were it not for the unique blend of flair and George Graham players constantly lighting a fire under their arse.Take the Graham players away and we have a bunch of players that are incapable of maintaining intensity, because they certainly don’t get it from Wenger.Keown in the doucmentary once again showed how important players like him were. Half time of the Liverpool match Wenger was feeling sorry for himself and it needed Keown to get them going again.Wenger actively discourages that sort of galvanising so we get a bunch of drones who lack direction and individuality; homogenous listlessness results.

  32. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Keown in the doucmentary once again showed how important players like him were.”

    That Invincibles documentary revealed a lot. Sounds mad but if GG could still do it now, I’d have him back. People frown on organisation and discipline like its some sort of throwback to the 70s.

  33. Rich

    The problem is we need a new centre half, two Midfielders, and a Striker.
    Not sure we should prioritise any of those positions.
    We’re not that good that’s the problem.

  34. Leedsgunner

    “Leeds, Wenger said it in his press conference this morning. Most sites will report it imminently. Apparently it’s not set to keep him out long, only a few days but naturally one would be skeptical.”

    Wenger is a con-man, just laying out the same tricks, sleight of hand and tired illusions in the desperate hope capturing the Gooners’ affections again. Diodn’t he tried this trick with Ramsey, Diaby, RvP?

    I find it hilarious he doesn’t even mention Diaby anymore… the player he continually placed his hope in, thinking he could get away with not strengthening the team. Wilshere is just become the new excuse hasn’t he?

    Very very sad. Beyond angry. Just resigned to disappointment.

  35. Romford Ozil Pele

    Problem is we need a new manager. Remember when Wenger said he wouldn’t sign Benzema because of L’Oreal. Lol, well that was smart, wasn’t it?

  36. Paulinho

    Romford – Graham was better manager than Wenger. Graham could actually buy incorporate flair players like Limpar, Merson, Helder(cough), Davis, whereas Wenger will never buy the same players that actually made him. He tolerated them when he was there, but Sol Campbell has said he doesn’t like dissent and has actively seeked to stamp it out.

  37. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Beyond angry. Just resigned to disappointment.”

    This is how i’ve felt for a while. Saw people chucking their toys out of the pram on Wednesday…. “OMG, how could Arsenal do this?!” Lol have people not been watching Wenger’s team for the past decade? We have a choking mentality under him and that’s the blatant truth.

  38. Whyareyoulookingatme?

    “To those who say Ligue 1 is shit, Arsenal-Monaco proved there is shit elsewhere as well”
    Ah ah ah, that’s fucking ecellent, and so true!! lol

  39. cheney10

    Here are my strikers in no particular order:
    Paulo Dybala, Mauro Icardi, Gonzalo Higuain, Benzema, Robert Lewandowski, Bas Dost…. Any of these would be an improvement on Oliver ‘bang it in better in a hotel than on the pitch Giroud!!

  40. Romford Ozil Pele

    Paulinho – it’s become all too apparent. No way Wenger wins his first two titles without that defence. Mentality is far too soft at Arsenal. I’m always for a defence approach mentality. I’d actually like to probe him on why he doesn’t buy Vieira/Petit-type midfielders anymore. Shambles really, and that’s a shame. But until Kroenke and co change, we’ll be fed the same BS.

  41. Leedsgunner

    “Lille coach Rene Girard: “To those who say Ligue 1 is shit, Arsenal-Monaco proved there is shit elsewhere as well”

    LOLLLLLZ. Take that and smoke it (in your shisha pipe) Wenger!!

  42. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Benzema even watched the game and congratulated them for the ” treat ” it was.
    I wanna die now.”

    Karim, it’s mad the pandering Wenger does for his favourites. Worryingly, a few people did used to say on here that Giroud was better than Benzema. Next joke.

  43. karim

    There’s no doubt the PL is the most spectacular league.
    Every game’s a fight !

    But it’s also the best one imo, a brilliant mix of intensity, attitude and skills.

    You can never know what to expect when watching a French game but it s definitely miles behind.

    Been better recently because of the emergence of younger coaches and I’ve seen spectacular games this season to be fair.

    Monaco play Paris on Sunday, it’s gonna be interesting.

  44. Masterstroke

    Giroud will be Ok now he’s got his Bendtner match ( Burnley March 2010 ) out of the way.
    He couldn’t have a game like that again could he. Could he?

  45. Leedsgunner

    “Problem is we need a new manager. Remember when Wenger said he wouldn’t sign Benzema because of L’Oreal. Lol, well that was smart, wasn’t it?”

    Or dare I say it — he wouldn’t sign Fabregas because we had Özil? A player who Wenger is sadly mismanaging again? It hurts me to say that because I’m a big Özil fan.

    The question has to be asked, if you cannot beat Monaco with a pretty much full strength side — the problem is not only the players — it’s the manager.

    If Chelsea wins the EPL it is just going to be so painful watching Cesc lift the trophy… even more so than RvP lifting it with the Mancs all the more because we’ve again strengthened a direct rival to the title… and we had the chance to sign him back.

  46. Romford Ozil Pele

    “you want GG back? he was Tony Pulis with a bigger budget. no thanks.”

    Mate, my primary focus is to win games. GG’s sides weren’t the prettiest, admittedly, but we were sure effective. Not enough pragmatism in Wenger sides for me. Sure, we could point to a few occasions where we’ve done this in the last few years but you feel like Wenger does it more out of necessity. Even he still admits that he’s a romantic at heart. Just think there are far too many flaws in his style of footie. Seen a raft of different players over the last decade, same problems loom large.

    Wenger is a developmental manager first and foremost, and i’m not sure that fits the mentality of a club trying to be the best.

  47. Kane

    The never ending cycle of Arsenal

    End season in 3rd or 4th – qualify for ECL
    Do not significantly improve squad over Summer
    Go into season knowing we cannot win the league
    Win some games / lose some games
    Lose ground on leaders
    Win some games / lose some games
    Qualify for ECL knock out phase
    Win some games / lose some games
    End season in 3rd or 4th – qualify for ECL

  48. Kane

    End season in 3rd or 4th – qualify for ECL
    Do not significantly improve squad over Summer
    Go into season knowing we cannot win the league
    Win some games / lose some games
    Lose ground on leaders
    Qualify for ECL knock out phase
    Win some games / lose some games
    Get knocked out of ECL
    Win some games / lose some games
    End season in 3rd or 4th – qualify for ECL

  49. BCB25

    One of the best strikers in Europe also happens to be available right now, move Sanchez up top, where he was intended to be played when we signed him.

    Long live the ‘internal solution’!

  50. karaul

    romford –

    February 27, 2015 10:33:48
    strikers?Lewandowski. Lacazette. Dybala.

    Vietto is just 1.73 m. We have enough midgets 🙂

    but there´s no point talking about new strikers. first thing we need new is new coach

  51. bazza

    Pedro you should be ashamed. You honestly think it’s ok to block the old lady’s view that sits behind you. You’re not being a “populist” as you put it, but rather a straightforward selfish prick. Yes, I agree there should be standing areas for people like you, but in the meantime show some respect and fucking sit down and stop being so self indulgent.

  52. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Vietto is just 1.73 m. We have enough midgets :)”

    True. If our team was bigger on the whole we could probably afford to have a smaller striker but can’t see Wenger going for it anyway. L’Oreal for the win! #facepalm

  53. Wallace

    ROP

    the game’s changed. you have to play entertaining football these days. when i think of the GG days i remember all the talented players sat on the bench because he didn’t trust them. you might think he was an early incarnation of Mourinho, but at least Mourinho has shown he can work with talented players. GG couldn’t.

  54. Romford Ozil Pele

    “the game’s changed. you have to play entertaining football these days.”

    Huh? Says who mate? You have to play effective football. Plus what is deemed at ‘entertaining’ is open to interpretation. First and foremost, I want to win. I’m not paid to decide how we do that, but for someone who is one of the best paid managers in world football, he leaves a lot to be desired. If we’re gonna play ‘entertaining’ football and shoot ourselves in the foot repeatedly, count me out.

  55. Carts

    We’ve been papering over crack for so damn long it’s not even funy anymore. False hopes when we beat City and Palace gives the impression we’re making progress. Nonsense.

    The Einsteins in the forum like to point out how our points totals has been increasing yet refusing to acknowledge the fact were no fucking closer to winning the league or CL.

    The adage: one step forward one step back; two steps forward, one step back. Look at it in that context and it’ll give your Arsenal under Wenger.

    Neglignce is the noun I’ll use towards Wenger, Gazidis and Kroenke. Or even financial negligence in the context of what having money is suppose to represent in modern day football.

    Every season there’s this hope that we’ll finally get it right. Yet when January arrives it becomes glaring that we’re always 3 players short. Redknapp alludes to it as does the rest of the fucking Sky SPorts panel, alongside 95% of Le Grovers.

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – Wenger is blagging it. He knows his gig is up and has been for years now. He is tactically inept, so much so that by not acknowledging our problems , it’ll give him a get out of jail card when we finish 4th and get knocked out of the CL in the last 16. How the asshole hasn’t invested in a proper GK, DM and forward is beyong comprehension.

    Yet if we take a closer look, those position still remain part of Wenger’s experimental approach.

  56. karaul

    funny thing is that giroud gave interview for french press before monaco game. said that he´s up there with costa and aguero and it hurts him when arsenal fans want to sign striker.

    so it´s not that he thinks he´s ok striker. wenger propably mind fucked him into thinkin he´s some kind of underrated superstar

  57. Whyareyoulookingatme?

    “…said that he´s up there with costa and aguero…”

    Wow… Seems that the mental illness of wenger is highly contagious lol

  58. Le Prof

    ROP

    I loved GG at the time make no mistake but we’ve evolved. Yes we were defensively resolute but I can still vividly remember the days of Keown playing in the midfield and it wasn’t pretty.

    We’re not that far away from getting the balance right between too attacking and too defensive with the addition of a couple new players in the summer fit for purpose.

    I really just hope it isn’t a mentality thing and that would mean whoever we got in nothing would change.

  59. Carts

    *Lewandowski – given his current situation – would have to be the guy on most team’s strikers wishlist.

    1) Lewandowski
    2) Lacazette
    3) Cavani
    4) Icardi
    5) Dybala
    6) Vietto
    6)

  60. Romford Ozil Pele

    LeProf/Wallace – I may have come across wrong initially. I’m not saying we become a glorified Stoke. With the resources and personnel we have at our disposal, it shouldn’t be one or the other, we should be able to merge both seamlessly.

    For me I think it is a mentality thing because of the manager. I’ve seen the same problems rear its head and we’ve been through a myriad of players. At some point you have to stop blaming the players and point the finger at the manager. He’s intent on giving players freedom, letting them work it out for themselves on the pitch, but the balance isn’t right. Need to get the semblance of instruction right. Berbatov was talking yesterday about how he expected Arsenal to leave gaps. That leaves a lot to be desired right? People are already second guessing Arsenal before the game’s been played.

  61. kapslock

    Lewandowski – given his current situation – would have to be the guy on most team’s strikers wishlist.

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    What is his current situation? Is he not being played by Guardiola?

  62. Leedsgunner

    ROP

    “Berbatov was talking yesterday about how he expected Arsenal to leave gaps. That leaves a lot to be desired right? People are already second guessing Arsenal before the game’s been played.”

    It’s not a guessing game. We are predictable therefore easy to play against. We do have the job for them before the ball is kicked.

  63. Romford Ozil Pele

    Lewandowski already said this week he ain’t leaving. I don’t think Pep particularly fancies him but Pep is leaving in 2016. He waited all this time for the Bayern move and is then gonna pack it in after one season? Makes no sense to me.

  64. kapslock

    Is Pep definitely leaving in 2016? Shame he can’t wait another year then he could come to the Arsenal. Would love him.

  65. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Is Pep definitely leaving in 2016?”

    Pretty much. Bayern are trying to coax him into resigning but he hasn’t budged yet. They’re likely to win the Bundesliga again next season.

  66. Relieable sauce

    Arsene doesn’t do tatoos but if he did…

    Pedro we could sign Jesus 2.0 to play up front & it still wouldn’t help us… not unless he brings his dad to manage us. DB 10 🙂
    Lets face it he cant be trusted to spend the money & will either buy inadequately or just ignore key positions…again. Besides we have the 50 million £ chaos sauasage!
    😉

  67. Thank you and goodnight

    “Football is also art – you have to know how to attack, how to defend. My team is very balanced.”

    I know what you mean Romford. No one is saying we should be long ball specialists, but we do need to be able to mix it up and that is something wenger’s teams have not done for years. Over last 10 years we’ve ALWAYS had an unbalanced team and that is wenger’s fault.

  68. Sascha

    Let’s buy goalkeeper Kevin Trapp (Frankfurt, Germany), Schneiderlin or Lars Bender and a world class striker like Cavani or if possible Premier League proven Edin Dzeko. Deal?

  69. Rhys Jaggar

    HERE IS AN IDEA

    We have been ‘seeking solutions for 5 years’ and every solution ‘fails after two years’.

    My idea is to ask why we expect anything to change when everything stays the same??

    Alexis is a world star who is knackered at Arsenal after 8 months. He and he alone kept Arsenal in the UCL chasing game up until Christmas. Without his goals, Arsenal were nowhere. I hope he doesn’t go the same way Chamakh did, as he’s 5 levels higher in quality. But Chamakh was great for half a season and then went to pot.

    Ozil flatters to deceive. Not really, he is being told to fertilise his wife wearing condoms made by the Yokohama rubber company (i.e. about 2 inches thick). He isn’t Ryan Giggs on the left wing, he’s a Central Attacking Midfielder. You don’t waste £42m on a John Deere combine harvester suitable for the corn belt if your farm is about growing Redwood Trees, do you?? You buy machinery that is fit for purpose. If you want a left winger, buy a left winger. If you have 4 CAMS, but want a better one, then sell one or two first.

    Do you think that Alexis and Ozil are on rising curves or declining ones??

    WHY DO YOU THINK THAT SCHNEIDERLIN AND FORSTER WILL FOLLOW A DIFFERENT PATH??

    I think they will do well for a season and then cause fans to start insulting them.

    Unless something else changes first………

  70. Romford Ozil Pele

    TYAG – Pretty much my friend. Kondogbia and Moutinho aside, Monaco aren’t better than us. They just strategised better. Defended well, waited for Arsenal to inevitably expose themselves and ruthlessly punished us on the counter. You can’t play good footie all the time. Fergie won trophies because his balance was nearly always right. The team were never fully exposed. You don’t even get angry watching Arsenal concede anymore because it’s a nightmare we’ve seen all too often.

  71. Whyareyoulookingatme?

    Ray Parlour about Mertesacker’s behavior against monaco : “I didn’t see a desire from (Per) Mertesacker to get across. Centre-halves like Tony Adams and Sol Campbell would have had the desire just to make sure they got something on that ball but it looked like he said, ‘have a shot, if you hit it in that far corner you’ll probably score a goal’.”

    Tony Adams and Sol Campbell, good old days lol

  72. Alex James

    Whilst GG lost the plot towards the end, his two championship winning teams were as good as any I have seen at the club in my sixty years of supporting it. That said, I would much rather have a dour side that consistently won trophies than a tippy tappy one that piles humiliation upon humiliation on its fans. The last few years have produced horror results that I never imagined would be possible at the Arsenal. Like Great War generals who were responsible for slaughter of millions of young men, Wenger shows no real shame. Under GG, we were at least spared the taunts of Utd, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool fans, everytime our team inplodes through diabolically bad defending.

  73. Bamford10

    No question Wenger must go. This has been obvious for years, but Wednesday night made this even clearer. To improve,we need to add a quality CDM, CM and CF this summer.

    As you’ve asked about CFs, the following could work:
    Lewandowski
    Lacazette
    Dybala
    Benteke
    Jovetic
    Benzema

    CDM and CM are equally important, however. Not only do we need better than Arteta/Coquelin (obviously), we also need better than Wilshere/Ramsey.

  74. TitsMcGee

    Plus Wenger is also trying the classic deflection technique of pointing to how poorly the other English clubs did in Europe.”

    He constantly does that. The problem is the AKB brigade lap it up.

    “Oh well yea we are out but look at how good Arsene did to get to the last 16 when Chelsea spent all of that money and din’t win either”

    He’s got a real religious following. As Jeff often says it’s like a cult.

  75. gambon

    Haha

    Chelsea have signed a bigger shirt deal than us, worth £40m per season

    So much for our financial masterplan. Waited 10 years to become a superpower then realised everyone had moved miles ahead of us on and off the pitch.

    Chelsea are genuinely a bigger club than Arsenal now, no doubt about it.

  76. Dream10

    Arsenal specialises in self-sabotage. A squad does not have to have 11 Messi’s in your team. The naivety is continuously baffling. We go down 1-0 on a deflected shot (pathetic attempt by Ospina to save) and all of sudden all ten outfield players attack like it’s the last minute of a cup tie. What good are flair and artistry when you defend like a bunch of schoolboys? That is the number one reason why AW should not be manager.

  77. karaul

    yeah what about jovetic? he´s definitely leaving city.

    we were dreaming about him few years ago during summer. oh transfer memories

  78. Whyareyoulookingatme?

    “Chelsea are genuinely a bigger club than Arsenal now, no doubt about it.”

    Very hard to swallow, but totally true.
    And it’s not going to change soon.

  79. MickeyG

    I really don’t get the criticism of Ospina. Apart from a few duffed kickouts I don’t fault him with any of the goals that have been conceded recently. Any keeper will concede goals with this bunch of idiots in front of him.

    Look at the goals against Monaco again. The first was NOT unlucky. Each Monaco player had about a 10 foot radius of space around him. The guy who took the shot the same. Mertersacker was so far away from him that it would have been better if he just hit the deck when the shot came in. A deflection was always likely with the centre back in the line of fire and so far away from the striker. And there was no saving the shot the shot after the deflection. Ospina knew he was beating a fraction of a micro second after the deflection. Maybe he could have made a theatrical dive anyway for the hell of it. But that would have looked foolish.

    The other goals, well he nearly kept out the third… but couldn’t really expect him to. Just because we lost to Spurs, this guy gets panned. The shots there weren’t pushed back into the the middle of the box. He pushed them out wide, away from the goal. Somehow Harry Kane got on the end of one of them. Fair play to him.

    I think this guy is good, needs a chance. It takes more than a few games to build a reasonable picture of any player. Pedro is a marketing hack… but he should have experience with data analysis and how one or two samples is basically meaningless.

    I’m only posting because the Ospina rants are just so fatuous. Mertersacker is the real problem is this team. He’s not a ball playing centre half and doesn’t possess any qualities typical of that breed. So more a traditional centre half then? Not quick, aggressive, brave or particularly strong. Doesn’t read the game well and doesn’t organise the rest of the back four. He is an awful liability for us and was the same for the Germans in the world cup. They would not have won had they persevered with him. We get away with having him against teams outside the top 6 or 8 in the premiership but that’s it. We need to cut our losses and gamble on Gabriel or Chambers. Let those guys learn in the school of hard knocks if need be.

  80. Romford Ozil Pele

    “yeah what about jovetic? he´s definitely leaving city.”

    He’s another broken player, no way.

    Carts, what’s wrong?

  81. Leedsgunner

    “Chelsea have signed a bigger shirt deal than us, worth £40m per season”

    Why can they do this?

    They want to win things! Companies want to be associated with winning brands not just people and clubs who think 4th is something to be happy about.

    In less than 10 years (like I said yesterday) Chelsea and Arsenal have swapped places.

  82. Bamford10

    To make room and money for a new CF, I’d sell either Giroud or Welbeck, probably the former. While he would make for a decent backup, esp against the Stokes of the world, he won’t improve from here and we could probably get decent money for him.

    Plus I can’t stand looking at his f***ing face. 😉

  83. TitsMcGee

    The only saving grace with that article is that it is the Metro. Hopefully they aren’t right for once.

    Regarding Welbeck: It’s pretty funny that he appears to be the exact same player he was for UTD. Ambiguous.

  84. TitsMcGee

    Having said that:

    ‘What is worse is that it is becoming a graveyard for players and this summer, as usual, their best players will be seeking to leave.

    ‘They are already 17 years in a row in Europe, and it seems they have not learned anything.’

    He added: ‘Wenger will decide when to leave, and that is, above all, the big problem.’

    http://metro.co.uk/2015/02/27/arsenal-is-becoming-a-graveyard-for-players-and-its-top-stars-could-leave-this-summer-says-guillem-balague-5081903/

  85. Leedsgunner

    “Regarding Welbeck: It’s pretty funny that he appears to be the exact same player he was for UTD. Ambiguous.”

    Having said that, if you switched Welbeck and Giroud around and gave Welbeck Giroud’s 6 chances that he missed I reckon Welbeck would have finished at least one.

  86. Paulinho

    Wallace – Graham couldn’t work with talented players? Garbage.

    Limpar, Merson, Rocastle were the very epitome of talent and he worked fine with them.

    The football we played in 1991 was far better than the crap we’ve played in the last four of five years.

  87. Carts

    You see that’s the thing, while Arsenal we playing the Oliver Twist role wanting everyone to feel sorry for them cos we couldn’t compete with Russian and Arab money, teams were building a foundation and expanding their brands – with the likelihood of some kind of FFP coming into effect one day. Chelsea and Utd spend what they generate. City, granted inflated their sponsorship, but look where that got them.

    Now, a lot of the practices we saw were questionable and in a lot of cases plain wrong and unfair. Instead of Arsenal just accepting it and having the likes of Kroenke and Usmanov show their wallets, we simply continued to hoard money, sell our best player, buy average and aim for 4th.

    What has s that transcended into? We sign deals with arguably a far more recognised brands than Yoko tyres, then Chelsea out of fucking nowhere, on the back of their fans embarrasing themselves and hurting the Chelsea brand sign a fucking £40m p/a deal.

    I know Keyser is going to get his turtle-head on and kindfully remind us that Chelsea have 92 players out on loan yada yada yada , but please tell me how that has fuck all to do with a team that can’t even find a patch of turf to build their new stadium and now have to do a Liverpool and expenad that shit.

    Arsenal don’t have a fucking clue. An professor in economic at the helm, as well as a couple of billionaires yet we have zero fucking weight.

  88. John Thorp

    I disagree re standing. At Arsenal we pay a hefty price for a seat yet where I am are forced to stand because other selfish people demand it. I dont mind standing but there are kids, women and older people who dont want to. During the first few seasons at the Emirates the stewards made a token effort to get people to sit in our area but to no avail and a number of fights broke out when various prople politely asked others to sit down.
    If you were in a standing area and you were made to sit you wouldnt like it. So why are those who wish to sit forced to stand, in what is after all a seated stadium?

  89. Le Prof

    ROP

    I didnt think you wanted us to go full Stoke but Im with you we need more balance on the defensive side and need to be more efficient.

    The men in GGs teams were exactly that, men.

    There comes a time when you need to stop expecting the players to take responsibility for certain things on the pitch if it quite clearly isnt working. Defensive pride was built and drilled in to GGs players but the current crop are letting the manager down and each other down by passing the book essentially and not doing the basics right.

    We should be able to defend and manage the game properly. We got caught out very similar against Man Utd at home when we started going gun ho after 50-55 minutes when we still had plenty of time to get back into the game.

    We were so naive it’s embarrassing. The biggest culprit being Mert on both occasions.

    Obviously you want players to take responsibility but they need guidance as well as TH was saying the other night about Pep and his in game instructions when players weren’t doing as they should be.

  90. Le Prof

    Bumford

    ‘This has been obvious for years, but Wednesday night made this even clearer.’

    Come back once you’ve actually watched the match.

  91. Scravaldio

    For any one still in dount about AW’s intentions need to realise that the club have opened negotiations to extend Diaby’s contract. We should go out and buy Paul Pogba but you know we are just having a bad run don’t worry about it we are all to blame and other english clubs were shit as well and Diaby is nearly back to full fitness for a full five minutes, so don’t worry about Arsenal it’s in good hands.

  92. lordsnotty

    I often “sit” behind the goal, Clock End. In some games (eg the NLD) we spend far more time standing than sitting and that’s how I like it. But I am nearly twice your age and appreciate a seat to sit on at half time when my legs start to get tired.

    There should be standing sections imho. It is not dangerous. Hillsborough was caused by perimeter fencing, overcrowding and gross incompetence by the police, not by fans standing up. I always believed it was a disaster waiting to happen.

  93. Bergkamp63

    When does Petr Cech’s contract expire ? I can’t imagine him wanting to be No2 after this season at 32,

    Guillermo Ochoa as back up although I don’t think Ospina has been as bad as some have been saying and certainly worthy of the No2.

  94. Arsenal2174

    Once again Keown comes out and defends Arsene soon Ray Parlour will follow Martin’s lead. Lord give me strength

  95. Carts

    It would make zero sense to even discuss anything with Diaby pertaining to a contract.

    The guy is broken. That’s the be all and end of it.

  96. Relieable sauce

    Nice post Carts 12.45. That might just lure him out 😉

    Some penthouses in Monaco sell for £400 000 000 (four hundred million) & we have 2 owners that could afford them but we were happy the hamstring ourselves so we could claim to have class & principles. ???

  97. WengerEagle

    We shouldn’t go cheap on anyone anymore, we’re only fooling ourselves and stocking the squad with avergae players.

    Forget frees or good deals, if we want a top notch GK then whip out the chequebook and sign Samir Handanovic off of Inter Milan, best keeper in Serie A.

    I like Schneiderlinn but really IMO he would just be a Bony signing in the CM, overpriced and not WC quality. Watching Barcelona smash City hammers home the fact that many of even City’s first XI are bang average, never mind ours.

    As far as CF’s go, don’t want any of Bas Dost, Benteke, Icardi. All penalty box strikers with a poor all-round game and limited ability.

    Dybala is the real deal, he’ll be playing for Barcelona or Real Madrid in 5 years time. Until then we’d be mad not to try and snap him up, doesn’t matter what we have to pay just pay it.

    Failing that then Lucianno Vietto off Villarreal or Lacazette off Lyon would fit the bill.

  98. Carts

    Reliable – Exactly. This is entertainment. If for some bizarre reason the entire Arsenal brand vanished tomorrow, no-one will remember how we valiantly managed to secure 4th against all adversity. More chance our 49 game unbeaten season getting a mention.

    Arsenal have created this problem now we have to live with it. Chelses have seen their £18m deal increase to £40m – a £22m hike. Incredible really. Abramovich, I don’t think even has to dip into his pocket anymore. Chelsea are pretty much, and have been, self-sustaining for a couple season now.

    Getting rid of Salah and Schurrle to fund Cuadrado says it all. Not to mention getting rid of Luiz, Mata and De Bruyne.

  99. Whyareyoulookingatme?

    Time to bounce back this week-end.

    This is what we do – in fact that’s almost all we are able to do – and we do it well.

    BouncingBack© is an Arsenal trademark.

  100. Micheal

    The latest financial accounts (to end November) show that we cash reserves of £138.8m. Althoug this does not translate directly into available transfer funds, it is still a substantial sum and means we should not be dicking about at the Poundland end of the market.

    Discuss.

  101. TitsMcGee

    This is what we do – in fact that’s almost all we are able to do – and we do it well.BouncingBack© is an Arsenal trademark.”

    It is indeed our trademark and seems to satisfy the throngs for the most part.

    One victory or daresay half-decent performance this weekend and people will forget about Wednesday night.

    Wenger can’t fail hard enough to get sacked. It is our curse.

  102. Relieable sauce

    I think most serious WC players wouldn’t want to come to AFC whilst AW is here.
    No tactical game plan, played through serious injury, regular spankings, average players, average coaches, no leadership, no character (barring Arsenes), no accountability, no winning mentality.
    Young players with greedy agents will still come, average players, good players who arent wanted by tier 1 clubs or other tier 2 EPL sides.

  103. Carts

    “The latest financial accounts (to end November) show that we cash reserves of £138.8m”

    Stadium repayments, and that other £25m that have to be set aside for something (I can’t remember). That’s at least £85m available, before you factor in Gabriel and any fees received for Podolski and JC.

  104. Arsene's Nurse

    Micheal February 27, 2015 13:55:49

    The latest financial accounts (to end November) show that we cash reserves of £138.8m. Althoug this does not translate directly into available transfer funds, it is still a substantial sum and means we should not be dicking about at the Poundland end of the market.

    Discuss.
    —————————————————-
    It’s customary to include a link to the statement. http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/20150227/arsenal-holdings-plc-results

  105. Bergkamp63

    Micheal February 27, 2015 13:55:49

    The latest financial accounts (to end November) show that we cash reserves of £138.8m. Althoug this does not translate directly into available transfer funds, it is still a substantial sum and means we should not be dicking about at the Poundland end of the market.

    Discuss

    Where are these results published ?

  106. Whyareyoulookingatme?

    “The latest financial accounts (to end November) show that we cash reserves of £138.8m”

    LOL it sounds like fucking Fort Knox

  107. salparadisenyc

    Not to be negative but I don’t fancy us to get a result this weekend.
    Could easily see us cave and loose all three points. Logically we should have the upper hand with an extra days rest at home, don’t think it will matter if i’m honest.

    That said very hard to predict which direction this team goes. If the predicted southern route, I fully expect the Emirates to get hostile towards Wenger.

    Watched bits of Monaco again, Ospina should of stopped the third. Think Wenger starts him vs Everton but he’s creeping towards the very thin ice. Looking at our GK situation over the past decade, we never really replaced Lehmann, usually made evident in the bigger ties. Same could be said for Gilberto.

    One of many questions perhaps answered in Wenger’s torrid memoirs.

  108. Carts

    Handanovic is a very good keeper who we should’ve bought while he was at Udinese. Inter are broke as fuck, won’t make top 3 and stand an outside chance of winning the EL which’ll provide them access to the CL via two qualifying games that they could well lose.

    £12m-£15m, imho, should be enough to lure Handanovic.