Mourinho embarrasses himself for the bigger picture

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Will have to race through this today because I have a mad busy day pitching.

So, first up, the Arsenal win juggernaut continues to power on at pace. The Palace game didn’t look pretty, but we did what we needed to do to take the three points. There weren’t many magical highlights for me, but there’s that unease watching Ospina flap about. I’m glad he’s been given a run, but I’m just sad he’ll probably have to drop a giant clanger before he’s removed. What he did in injury time, when he flew out to tip a cross away, was, well, pretty poor tekkers. He’s just not the ticket for me… frame aside, I think he lacks quite a lot of the top level basic skills.

Other good news? Well, teams dropping points all over the place. United dropped 3, Spurs dropped one against West Ham which kind of works and Chelsea opened the door for us in the title challenge. All exciting stuff. We’re pushing hard for third now. In the driving seat if you consider our fixtures list.

… and United. Superb eh? Hopefully that result at Swansea asks more questions of a squad being brutalised by a man with ego and power on the mind, over putting a system in place that the players can work to.

What other mega bits have we to clear up today? Oh, how about Jose on Soccer Saturday? I do like to listen to him, but that little act of petulance was really not befitting of a top flight manager. When you earn that sort of cash, have that sort of rep, you shouldn’t be hijacking TV programmes to push your messaging. It was car crash at times. He slagged Wenger unprovoked. Whether he was right or not, I have no idea why he felt the need to open up old wounds. Then he slated Sky for going on at his players when his boys suffer hard tackles. Just all felt a little surreal considering how nasty his players can be.

Jose uses slots like yesterday to gain a psychological advantage on opposition teams. That little show yesterday was about making referees fear making decisions against his players. He’s been trying to hammer referees for a while. I hope they stand strong. Refs should be independent and they shouldn’t fear managers trying to game the system.

Mourinho and his behaviour off the pitch is why he couldn’t land a job at Barca. That’s why a team like United will probably never sign him. He damages institutions to gain some extra percentage points. I don’t think I’d like him at Arsenal. A winner, sure, but he’s not a patch on Guardiola in my eyes.

Tonight, the club are launching the invincibles documentary. That’s going to be one of those things you watch when you’re having a down week. Whenever I watch stuff on that team, it takes you to another place. When Arsenal are doing well, it feels like you’re doing well in every area of your life. So many fond memories!

The AST also have Raphael Honigstein at their event this evening, worth paying the membership fee alone. If you get the chance to head down, I’m sure there will be a truck load of insight into Arsenal’s German players as well as what they do differently over in the Bundesliga!

Final point, that I don’t want to labour on, is Wenger and his use of tactics. There was a piece by Hoddle about using prozone back in the day to analyse teams and their approaches. A lot of people have used this snippet to showcase that our manager is really into analysis.

Look, firstly, there are plenty of player quotes around that point to our lack of preparation, but here’s the best way to know whether we do it… look at what you’ve seen on the pitch over the past 10 years. Look at the surprise on the pundits faces when we turned over City. Using a version of Prozone was big in the eighties, but hey, Super Mario Brothers on a black and white Gameboy was also state of the art back then, you wouldn’t put that infront of an 8 yaer old these days and expect a high five. If you don’t upgrade your tech, the way you think and the way you utilise that data, it’s all pretty pointless.

… and, if you think he is using tactics and data to its maximum, well, even more cause for concern, because you’re basically saying he’s doing it really f*cking badly.

Right, that’s me done. Have a mega day!

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  1. Carts

    LOL – we will forever be a couple of players shorts. Imo, it’s a deliberate ploy by Wenger to, come the end of the season, allude to the fact that we were short. Wenger lacks innovation. It’s evident. He doesn’t have the know-how how to successfully challenge for the title.

  2. Romford Ozil Pele

    Oh wow, just saw Nani’s goal from yesterday – ridiculous! Tore that mug Clichy a new one multiple times.

  3. Paddy got bored

    The main aim for Wednesday is to sell out of Pepsi and hot dogs, and have a big fucking que of Chinese in the armoury

  4. Goondawg

    Lol allow crying after you score a goal though

    Just saw Noel Gallaghers bit on Match of the day 3, gotta agree with his assessment on Mourinho. He’s a whinger and a cunt of the highest order. He’s not taking digs at Pellegrini because the bloke never bites and this winds Maureen up even more. But these continuous cryptic sly digs at Wenger are pathetic.. (Liking Jernaine Jenas as a pundit! Even if he is a spuds. But what’s the deal isn’t he playing?)

  5. Lee

    Dissenter
    Adebayor raked his studs down RvPs face

    Nobody beat me yesterday
    You tool.

    And no
    You said that nobody has a right to
    Vigilante action before urging matic to stamp on Barnes face.
    Contradictory to say the least
    Now stop trying to claw back credibility after you mugged yourself off.

  6. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Mani tore clichy apart yesterday? City played Saturday though”

    Huh? Nani played yesterday for Sporting. I’m talking about when Clichy was here and Nani was a regular for United. It wasn’t pretty viewing.

  7. Le Prof

    Bumford

    ‘Mourinho is a prick, no doubt, but he remains right about Wenger: Arsenal should be in contention, and Wenger has long been free to under-achieve.’

    Of all the shit Maureen came out with yesterday this is what strikes you the most and sticks with you?

    Just keep talking pal because the more you do, what little credibility you think you may have is disappearing quicker than you can say Wenger out.

    Underacheive in who’s eyes? Any one with half a brain knew we would struggle with the move but you and your unrealistic expectations thinking we’d actually be challenging for the title every year says it all really.

    The board sets the target dummy and I thought you may have been aware of the limitations, as youve alluded to them, that are the mitigating circumstances of the stadium and the self imposed austerity, we did what we had to do.

    Post austerity we’re visibly moving forward. That much is obvious. Isn’t it?

    You’re the typical plastic fucker that Maureen is targeting when he comes out with shit like that and it’s laughable that you lap it up every time.

    Al had it spot on yesterday with you. Thought you were supposed to of stopped supporting and watching and us anyway?

    You have the audacity to call people out and call them clueless, people who’ve followed the team for years and supported the players all over the country seeing them up close and in the flesh as opposed to you on a shite stream for the last 8 years.

    It’s called being delusional.

  8. Al

    50 goals in 3 season playing for Arsenal is pretty average to below average if you ask me.

    Thars roughly 17 goals a season..to be the main man at Arsenal and only score that much is not good enough Considering the amount we create and the attacking style we play with

  9. gambon

    “Post austerity we’re visibly moving forward. That much is obvious. Isn’t it?”

    Lol how is it obvious.

    4th……4th…..4th…..4th…..

    Oh and there hasnt been any austerity. The second we moved into the Emirates we were £40m pa richer.

    People like you need to get your facts straight well before jumping in with these agenda driven arguments.

  10. Le Prof

    Gregg

    ‘Spot on, every season we a couple of players short and it’s gone on too long now. The money is there, that can no longer be a legitimate excuse.’

    Im not disagreeing with missing a couple of players but you could argue this point about any team on the planet to be honest. As hard as it is to believe, no set of fans are ever really truly happy with their team/squad/club.

    Its human nature to always want more.

  11. gambon

    “Underachieve in who’s eyes?”

    Well in Wengers….

    “Imagine the worst situation, that we lose Fábregas and Nasri; you cannot convince people that you are ambitious after that.””

    He said this whi9le he was negotiating the sale of both players.

  12. Goondawg

    My point is Mourinho is a cunt and the fact he says he doesn’t remember one favourable decision for his team of cunts this season, is absolute bollocks and pathetically weak coming from him.

    The Real Madrid ex president Calderon was right, he can’t handle pressure. Really hope the Refs aren’t coerced by his bullshit and don’t give in like they used to do with Fergie. The English media are pathetic as well for lapping it up and pandering to his drama queen needs.

  13. Nasri's Mouth

    Le Prof: Just keep talking pal because the more you do, what little credibility you think you may have is disappearing quicker

    I think what little was left disappeared when he championed Jonny Evans

  14. gambon

    “Nice to see Fabregas suffering his all too familiar second half season slump”

    Must be tough having twice as many assists as any other player in the PL, and 5 times as many as “amazing” Ozil.

  15. gambon

    Very good point Nasris Mouth, however you have once again (becoming a habit for you) strengthened my argument.

    We have actually regressed then.

    So much for the amazing “post austerity progress”

    Thans for pointing out.

  16. Nasri's Mouth

    @gambon

    I don’t remember strengthening your argument before, I remember calling you out when you spout bollocks as you tend to do, when people start complimenting Wenger a bit too much for your taste.

    And I haven’t strengthened your argument, I’ve simply pointed out your revisionist history tactic

  17. GoonerInNY

    ” Post austerity we’re visibly moving forward. That much is obvious. Isn’t it?”

    And you call other people delusional?

    It is delusional to look at Arsenal’s roster on Aug. 31, 2013, Jan. 31, 2014 (Kallstrom!), Aug. 31, 2014 or Jan. 31, 2015 and not see massive negligence in team assembly even within the money spent. Going into this season with five defeders over 21? Come on.

  18. Ozy

    “Must be tough having twice as many assists as any other player in the PL, and 5 times as many as “amazing” Ozil”

    One has been playing for the entire season, another has been inured throughout most of it…

    But yeah, Gambon, what’s with people and their agenda driven arguments?

  19. Le Prof

    gambon

    Come on you know the fucking score here, dont play stupid.

    People like you need to realise the stadium move actually happened and it actually had an impact before jumping in with these agenda driven arguments.

    We dont need to sell players anymore.

    We dont need to make £20m before the season starts.

    We’re increasing our points total and getting closer to the Champions.

    We’re buying marquee players every summer.

    We’re increasing our NET spend every year.

    We’ve ended the trophy drought.

    The squad is getting stronger with higher calibre players being brought in.

    Commercials revs growing year on year.

    All things that were complained about regarding the club are being actioned and progression is being made….

    …but you already knew this.

  20. Bamford10

    Mouth

    I never “championed” Johnny Evans. I simply said he was a solid CB. Some of you lot are incapable of being honest about other people’s arguments.

    Furthermore, I’m well aware that Giroud is playing well, but he’ll never help lead us to a title, will never give the likes of Chelsea, Barca, Madrid, Bayern, Atletico any issues whatsoever. He is dangerous to a quality defense on set pieces alone. Otherwise one can watch him show to the ball, play with his hair and trip over his own fucking feet.

    He’s playing well, yes, but he’s not good enough to be the #1 for a title-contending side. That’s my view, supported by all of the non-blinkered on here.

  21. gambon

    Nasris Mouth
    of course you have strengthened my argument, as i say thank you.

    This gimp was trying to imply we had been through hardship and were now improving.

    Sorry but just not the case.

    You are right, we havent finished 4th 4 times in a row, however this is the first time we have done it 3 times in a row.

    So much for the amazing improvments.

    My whole argument was that there is no plan, there is no improvment and there is no direction.

    You have actually improved my argument, showing me that relative to 2011 we have regressed, rather than stagnated.

    I expect you are felling a bit suicidal right now.

    *MUST PROTECT WENGER*

  22. ArseneBgone

    There ya go again Pedrita, if you can do ANY BETTER. than Ospina, well then son by all means, you don’t like this GK or that GK crawl in there go ahead Mr.Almighty goalie machine….

  23. Nasri's Mouth

    @gambon

    I just pointed out you got your facts wrong

    Isn’t it time for you to come out with some terrible analogy about now?

    or start with the name calling ? Ahh, you already did. Right on track.

  24. Le Prof

    GoonerinNY

    ‘It is delusional to look at Arsenal’s roster on Aug. 31, 2013, Jan. 31, ‘

    I should of stopped at reading at GoonerinNY really but once roster was brought into the equation I was done.

    FYI it’s a squad.

    And no one is disagreeing with being one or two players short, catch up will you?

  25. gambon

    “what’s happened to your Giroud stats updates? you were bustin’ them out pretty much daily last season…”

    You mean Giroud the guy that has been outscored by Bony, Hazard, Sakho, Silva, Ings, Eriksen, Berahino, Van Persie, Cisse, Sanchez, Kane, Austin, Aguero & Costa.

    Sorry you were saying?

  26. Nasri's Mouth

    Bamford10: Otherwise one can watch him show to the ball, play with his hair and trip over his own fucking feet.

    And you claim your view is unblinkered. Scary stuff

  27. Nasri's Mouth

    gambon: You mean Giroud the guy that has been outscored by Bony, Hazard, Sakho, Silva, Ings, Eriksen, Berahino, Van Persie, Cisse, Sanchez, Kane, Austin, Aguero & Costa.

    And they’ve played the same number of minutes as him have they?

    Ahhh, thought not. Another crap argument.

  28. gambon

    Prof

    “We dont need to sell players anymore.”

    We never needed to….check the £200m bank balance for evidence.

    “We dont need to make £20m before the season starts.”

    Erm, our repayments havent changed since the day we moved stadium so either

    a- we never needed to make £20m before the season starts

    or

    b- we still do
    You decide

    “We’re increasing our points total and getting closer to the Champions.”

    4th….4th….4th….no we’re not

    “We’re buying marquee players every summer.”

    We’ve bought one, who will be off soon. So no we arent doing it every year.

    “Commercials revs growing year on year.”

    The commercial revenue is very disappointing. Only rising due to 2 big deals that were always gonna come. We are miles behind our supposed rivals in this area.

  29. Willow Wilson

    NM
    “I agree with all that. There is no ‘conspiracy’ against Chelsea because just as Barnes wasn’t punished, neither was Cahill. The fault is that both should have been. Either on the pitch or retrospectively”

    Exactly.

    Conspiracy nonsense. Shame on the media for allowing Chelsea to manipulate and use them.

    We didn’t go crying to the media when Ramsey and Eduardo were hospitalised thanks to terrible, reckless tackles. In fact, the media could not have been less sympathetic. When Wenger criticised the players that broke Ramsey & Eduardos legs, the media jumped to those players defence.

    Cahills tackles on both Sanchez and Aluko were terrible, yet nobody in the media asked him for his view on those. Why not?

    Where was the conspiracy when Fabregas dived full length to handle Jacks goal bound shot in the penalty area?

    Was Clattenburg part of the conspiracy? This was a referee they hounded and falsely accused of racism. Mikel even threatened to break Clattenburgs legs.

    So forget conspiracy theories. Chelsea is a club rotten from the top to the bottom. For years they were able to use the Russian thiefs money to buy and bully their way to trophys. They paid numerous fines for blatant tapping up of players, they didn’t care.

    Now that huge advantage is on the wain, all they have done is moan and complain. Maureen complains about FFP, how he has to sell to buy, Wenger, Man City, Lampard and now it’s the referees. The bloke can dish it out but he sure can’t take it back.

    The timing of this is not a coincidence; it is within a few days of their negative publicity for their fans behaviour in Paris.

    The sooner everyone stops pandering to his ego and his clubs bullying nature, the better. We got rid of one bully in Fergie and Man Utd, now we need to see off this man and his odious club.

  30. Wallace

    gambon

    “You mean Giroud the guy that has been outscored by Bony, Hazard, Sakho, Silva, Ings, Eriksen, Berahino, Van Persie, Cisse, Sanchez, Kane, Austin, Aguero & Costa.”

    conveniently neglecting to mention he’s only played half the games everyone else has.

  31. gambon

    “We didn’t go crying to the media when Ramsey and Eduardo were hospitalised thanks to terrible, reckless tackles”

    LOL

  32. Thomas

    Mourinhos comments about Wonga are spot on. Cushiest job ever. In any other club the cunt would have been sacked a long time ago.

  33. underrated Coq

    Ughelligunner

    QUOTE: “why do you lap up to mourinho?”

    Okay, you seem to have misunderstood me. I’m not lapping up to Mourinho, I’ve made it clear that I don’t like his managerial style. Mourinho made valid points when he was on as a guest in a show. I look at it more like Mourinho as a football pundit speaking, not Mourinho the manager of Chelsea.

    Also, its a case of the words being more important than the person speaking them. Would you complain so much if any other pundit had made the same points ? To me, there would be no difference. The points he makes are valid ones.

    QUOTE: “Lets talk about the injuries and average players we have and not about competing because we are still way behind them.”

    How long can one keep using injuries as an excuse ? One season is okay, two is pushing it but to keep saying that injuries screwed us every season … ? At some point you gotta ask why injuries are being allowed to hamper us every season.

    And whose fault is it that we always go into a season with one hand tied behind our backs? Going into this season with TWO established CDs was nothing short of criminal. You say we have average players and I’ll ask you who is the one responsible for signing players.

    QUOTE: ” if Mourinho brings the best out of players like you allude to and wenger does not, why does mourinho sell his players so easily, without given them time to adapt and maybe mould them. lol. ”

    Look I really don’t want to defend Mourinho but surely you can see he’s better or rather more efficient in man management than Arsene. You shouldn’t really use him getting rid of players that don’t fit his style as an excuse. All managers do that. Did Arsene not do the same with Podolski..?

    QUOTE : “Sterling has been playing non stop football for 3yrs and Chamberlain has played only this season consistently while getting injured every year and you talk of regression?”

    Therein lies the crux of the problem imo. Arsene focuses on more than one player at a time and the problem is that none of the players can really have a decent progress rate. For instance : We have Chamberlain and we also have a talented Gnabry. Chamberlain himself struggles to get decent game time and Gnabry gets almost no chance. So neither of them have progressed much. I think you can make a similar case for Ramsey and Wilshere.

    As you rightly say, injuries have affected progress of Chamberlain. Perhaps I have been nitpicking too much in this case.

    Believe me when I say this– I was an AKB two years ago but at some point you gotta realize its Arsenal FC not Arsene FC. Even if I’m not an AKB now, nothing would please me more than seeing Arsene Wenger lift the PL trophy one last time before he calls it a day. He deserves it.

  34. toniboy

    I cannot stand Maureen and we shouldn’t pay attention to what he says cos he is playing mind games or whatever for Chelsea’s good right? He does have a point though and we all know this…..its not good enough to say we will compete next season anymore. Atheltico and Dortmund have shown you can win in the period Wenger has been dithering. Good examples of dithering are starting a season with 2 CBs or keeping Szch (who has made the same mistakes for years) only to bring Ospina in,…..for us to argue about….that should have stopped after Almunia. The DM issue…..lets not go into it.

    On Giroud scoring 50 goals….he is another example of the mediocrity that Arsene has let us get accustomed to…he isn’t a bad striker but he isn’t going to win you games alone(he’s worse than any other striker that has held that position solely for that long) and if he gets that good….there will be another problem somewhere else in the team….Alexis is the game changer and L’Oreal is Mandukic at best. The competitive teams address their issues squarely not in secret or on the cheap….keeper, DM and Striker…we kinda just wait to see what can fall our way (Ozil and Alexis) and get excited till March/April and go through the cycle again.

    I cannot stand Maureen but he hasn’t lied we should do better.

  35. gambon

    OK, Giroud that has been outscored (relative to games) by Costa, Aguero, Kane, Austin, Cisse.

    Hardly an amazing player is he?

    And if you look at the long term he will soon revert to type and becoem his usual useless self.

    I assume all the Giroud fanboys are desperate for Wenger to sign Austin or Cisse?

  36. DOROBUCCI

    There was a chelsea player who gave Alexis similar tackle at the stanford this season, The tackle that led to wenger shoving mourinho.Its funny how Jose cries when he is at the receiving end,the man is a hypocrite.

  37. Willow Wilson

    gambon: “This gimp was trying to imply we had been through hardship and were now improving. Sorry but just not the case”.

    Of course it is the case, do you live in a cave?

    As for Giroud, why are you trying so hard to criticise him? I heard that you were one of those that were calling him all kinds of names and said he was not a PL striker. Great judgement.

    Someone the other day said you were one of those clamouring for Benteke? You said Benteke was in a different class to Giroud and that Balotelli was better:

    Benteke: 17 games, 3 goals 1 assist
    Giroud: 15 games, 10 goals, 2 assists
    Balotelli: 17 games, 3 goals, 2 assists

    Appears to me, you do not have a clue.

  38. Nasri's Mouth

    gambon: I assume all the Giroud fanboys are desperate for Wenger to sign Austin or Cisse?

    I assume you still want us to spend £25m on Benteke?

  39. underrated Coq

    Giroud is another player who is underrated on this blog. He’s been excellent value for money.

    He was signed for what, eight million..? He has a decent goal return, good amount of assists and he improves every season. Arsenal normally tend to struggle without Giroud spearheading the attack. The attack lacks balance and seems disjointed without him.

    Its funny : Mesut Ozil gets targeted because he’s apparently not been value for the 42 million paid. Giroud gets targeted because he’s not World class. Why doesn’t the same ‘value for money’ logic apply to Giroud ?

    I guess some on here simply love to find any reason they can to bash our players non-stop.

  40. Nasri's Mouth

    underated coq: How long can one keep using injuries as an excuse ? One season is okay, two is pushing it but to keep saying that injuries screwed us every season … ? At some point you gotta ask why injuries are being allowed to hamper us every season.

    I think you both have a point.

    Had we and Chelsea swopped injury lists this season, there’s a pretty good chance we’d be top of the league right now.

    And it’s happened various times in the past. The squad has been good enough to challenge higher up the league but the excessive amount of injuries has knocked us down. There’s decent evidence to back up that argument.

    But you’re right in that we shouldn’t have let it go on as long as it has. Some of them are unavoidable. For example Giroud and Debuchy at the start of the season, and we’d be doing a fair bit better had both of those stayed fit.

    But the Kos situation was bonkers. If he’d been 100% and Mert hadn’t just won a WC, then it’d would have just about been ok, (we’d have similar numbers to Chelsea) but the club would have known about it and failed to act.

    Arteta’s injury turns out to be a bone spur. Bad luck I guess, but maybe we really ought to be checking and checking again when one of our players has an initial problem, rather than wait for it to reoccur a few times.

    Some of it is unavoidable, but some of it could definitely be improved

  41. DOROBUCCI

    Giroud for the amount we got him is a steal, how many goals have robin scored for united since we got giroud?. That first season aside, The truth is we undervalue our players alot.

  42. Le Prof

    gambon

    Your on the wind up mate but it wont work.

    You know full well our financial situation changed on the move and that isn’t in question and to pretend otherwise is just sheer ignorance.

    ‘Erm, our repayments havent changed since the day we moved stadium so either’

    So you actually believe other aspects of our financial didn’t change?!

    ‘We never needed to….check the £200m bank balance for evidence.’

    Its a funny coincidence now our commercials are in place we can keep our players isn’t it?

    The £200m was accumulated over time, possibly with FFP in mind, in order to give us the clout to spend what we wanted when out of the self imposed austerity because on revenue alone we’d not be able to compete with your RMs, Barca’s, Bayerns, both Mancs and the Chavs.

    “We’re increasing our points total and getting closer to the Champions.”
    ‘4th….4th….4th….no we’re not’

    68, 70, 73, 79…yes we are.

    “We’re buying marquee players every summer.”

    We’ve bought one, who will be off soon. So no we arent doing it every year.

    Ozil 2 summers ago, Sanchez this summer, so yes we are.

    “Commercials revs growing year on year.”
    The commercial revenue is very disappointing. Only rising due to 2 big deals that were always gonna come. We are miles behind our supposed rivals in this area.

    But we are growing them. No one said we are miles in front of our rivals.

    Back to the original point….we are progressing.

  43. Foxy

    Gambon and his usual shower of shit arguments 🙂

    Comparing Giroud’s record to other strikers this season when he has missed three months is a new low in poor arguments even for you.

    And look here, he is even predicting the future by declaring that “if you look at the long term he will soon revert to type and become his usual useless self” despite Giroud being in the best form of his Arsenal career to date and breaking the hoodo he had of not scoring against the big sides. Superb logic gamby, just fantastic. Durham would be proud of you.

    Keep them coming though its laaavly seeing others take you to cleaners time and time again.

  44. Nasri's Mouth

    underated Coq: He has a decent goal return, good amount of assists and he improves every season.

    Giroud bucks the general trend with strikers. He should have peaked a season or 2 ago, but he keeps getting better.

  45. Nasri's Mouth

    “4th….4th….4th….no we’re not”

    And for the record, not only have we not finished 4th 4 times in a row, we haven’t finished 4th 3 times in a row either

  46. Le Prof

    NM

    ‘And it’s happened various times in the past. The squad has been good enough to challenge higher up the league but the excessive amount of injuries has knocked us down. There’s decent evidence to back up that argument.’

    Agreed and because of the lack of strength in depth we had, realistically 3rd/4th was the limit. Like you say it’s not one or two injuries, its excessive injuries.

  47. Lee

    Le prof

    Don’t forget growing our own Internal players

    Ramsey oz and jack all have potential to be top top level midfield players
    With jack possessin the potential to turn into a true world class midfield player
    We haven’t sold any fest teamers
    Bought from real and barca

    New deals frm puma and the Emirates to follow.

    Ffp allowing us to have increased power over city and Chelsea.
    Only United can outspend us without selling and playing within the rules which Chelsea now seem to be

    The team is finding its feet and gelling.
    Points are increasing.
    More players to come this summer and we will be competing properly.

  48. Nasri's Mouth

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31590728

    Because the referee saw it, the FA wont act.

    So we have officials with zero or very little accountability and the organisation that controls them failing to overrule them when they make mistakes because…because… well, because they just can’t be arsed.

    That’s a marvellous system and no surprise that this season has been a shocker for poor reffing

  49. Leedsgunner

    Bad decision… for a bad tackle. Surprising really that the standard of refereeing is so poor with each game in the EPL season now worth tens of millions. You would have though the clubs as a whole would want to have in place the finest referees in World Football with so much at stake now.

  50. Lee

    Gambon

    You do realise you’re on an arsenal blog??
    Stop trying to son everything to suit your negative persona
    There’s plenty to be positive about and plenty more to look forward to from this side.
    So get back in your jam jar and shut the lid

  51. Nasri's Mouth

    @Le Prof

    Chelsea and more recently ManC have massively outspent us so it’s no surprise that we’ve not been able to compete directly with them, but when you look at Chelsea’s fitness record and compare it to ours, then there is massive room for improvement.

    Even with Diaby skewing the results, there’s been various comparisons that we’ve missed more players minutes through injury than we should.
    I don’t particularly buy the overplaying red zone theory. Other players for other teams seem to manage, compare Sterling or Hazard to Sanchez for example. And Chelsea play their central defenders week in week out.
    But there is something to our game, or our training or pitch or something that causes too many soft tissue and strain injuries

    I’m hopeful that things are improving. Ozil seems to have come back with a new physique, Giroud came back early, Wilshere came back early, maybe things are happening behind the scenes, but if they don’t we’re always going to struggle to compete right at the top

  52. Le Prof

    Lee

    Most definitely.

    We can always improve but we’ve got a lot of positive things going for us and to look forward to.

    The season has already been written off by Bamford, saying we have nothing to look forward to or be excited for.

    Hate cup runs, hate the league run-ins, hate winnable CL games, hate watching our players grow together hate seeing understanding between them, hate seeing us score goals…

    …and it’s not even March. Seriously what have we got to look forward to?

    Bamford you’re a clown.

  53. Thomas

    “The team is finding its feet and gelling.
    Points are increasing.
    More players to come this summer and we will be competing properly.”

    Same thing every season. “Next season is ours” hahahahahaha.

  54. Le Prof

    NM

    Hopefully the right things are happening behind the scenes regarding the injuries and Im sure they knew about the issue far earlier than any bloggers, so maybe the changes are further along than we think.

    It’s a refreshing change to get players back early rather than the retrun dates being put further and further back.

    Its accepted as a footballer that injuries are part and parcel of the game. We know they’re not robots but I agree with you that to get so many injuries for the duration of time we have done has got to be more than just bad luck.

    To win anything you need to obviously play well but it goes hand in hand with having minimal injuries throughout the year and hope lady luck is with you on both fronts.

  55. gambon

    “Ozil 2 summers ago”

    How is he a marquee player?

    As people keep sdaying on here, Ozil is useless unless everyone around him is brilliant.

    That isnt the definition of Marquee!

  56. Thomas

    Le Prof February 23, 2015 15:21:42

    Thomas you prize cunt.

    Fuck off will you.
    _________

    Lol so angry. Chill out you pleb.

  57. MidwestGun

    Midwest-
    How do you know eagle is rain man of the football world??
    Are you there with him when he posts?
    How do you know he isn’t sifting through the internet searching for facts.?
    You don’t
    So shut your pie hole
    _________
    Well Lee,
    Thanks for asking. I know this because I’ve been reading Eagles stuff over the last 3 years and everytime there is some kind of survey or contest to name your to top 3 -5 players historically at every position In the Premier he can do it in a blink of an eye. Also, he can do it with world players. And anytime somebody asks about how a certain player is doing In the World he can do it. One time Romford and him were rattling off top 5 favorite players at every position with reasons why. All subjective things you cant do by simply googling. So I know it by reading and observation.

    It’s the same reason Lee I know you are a lying, bullshit artist troll because of your made up stories, fake identities, and attacking anyone who questions your stories or observations. I know this thru reading comprehension and observation.

    As for shutting my pie hole. Maybe take some of your own advice. As the only thing I’ve seen you contribute today is cheerleading Le Prof.

  58. Lee

    Thomas you prize cunt.Fuck off will you.

    I second that notion….
    Thomas. All you’ve contributed on your rare forays is drivel.
    Total anus licker.
    Nasri
    While I agree the fitness of the team needs to be addressed there have been positive movements since the summer
    Wenger himself has public stated he beloved something is not quite right with his methods and has instated shad forsythe
    While we have still had high injury levels this season, certain players have spring back to fitness early
    Giroud
    Ozil
    Ramsey
    Where as previously they would have been aside for half the season.

    In every department we are building steadily to the level of the oil clubs. Ffp really is working and we will see the fruits fully before we gets contract expires I’m certain. If slightly hopefull.
    If any le grove posters tell me they would rather wenger doesn’t win the league or champs league before this contract ends I wouldn’t be surprised but i, for one would love to see him go out on a high.
    And be rewarded for his dignity throughout the abusive austerity period where his planning put arsenal fc in the financial position to challenge the elite.
    The fairy tale ending his hard work, foresight and persistence deserves

  59. london gunner

    Look Giroud is a decent striker and a loveable handsome rouge yet somewhat of an underdog when it comes to ability. So I get his massive fan boy status on here.

    Having said that can we actually win top honours with him at the helm? Under Wenger we only achieved that kind of success with Thierry who was literally the best striker in the world.

    Maybe a manager like maurinho or simeone can win the premier league with Giroud as number striker, but never WEnger.

    Wenger needs brilliant wc players to shine.

    I would add Bony is not WC, but he is a prolofic goal scorer I said we should have sold Giroud in the summer and purchased Bony and I stand by that. Bony is everything Giroud has, but more. Faster, stronger, powerful shot, clinical and better with the ball at his feet. Giroud lovers may add Giroud has link up play… trust me Bony has watch some of his dinks and though balls this season far beyond what I expected of him.

  60. Willow Wilson

    Nasris Mouth
    ” we have officials with zero or very little accountability and the organisation that controls them failing to overrule them when they make mistakes because…because… well, because they just can’t be arsed”.

    Pretty much got that right NM.

    But it’s not because they cannot be arsed. It is because they do not want to allow the officials to be questioned or under mined. These guys can do what they want.
    There is no accountability. They are over protected. Riley should never have been given that job, he is the problem.

    The annoying thing is that we have technology. It wouldn’t delay things and it would help the referees. The divers and cheats won’t be able to decide games and we wouldn’t have games decided by rank bad decisions.

    The whole retrospective punishment system needs to be overhauled. I don’t care whether the referee saw the incident or not, if he gets it wrong then its wrong. Punish the referee if necessary but most important, punish the player. It is not rocket science.

  61. MidwestGun

    Willow –
    I agree, the way to stop harsh challenges is retroactive fines that hurt. (Large ammounts). Video replay evidence and then retroactive fines, perhaps leading to suspension for repeat offenses. It’s the way it done in almost every sport.
    To expect one referee to see every challenge 360 degrees in live action and issue the appropriate card is unrealistic even with the help of linesmen who get it wrong a lot too. Not to mention the proliferation of faking blows to the head to get a card and other fake reactions.

  62. Ces1ne

    Wow, whats up with all these kids trying to take over the comment section recently??? A few decent results & the nonsense I’m seeing from obvious trolls like LeProf/Lee/etc… is crazy. Settle down fellas, you’re like K3yser on crack.

  63. Thomas

    “I second that notion….
    Thomas. All you’ve contributed on your rare forays is drivel.
    Total anus licker.”

    ________

    Lol you and Le Prof are so far up each others asses it’s not even funny and you’re calling me “anus licker” haha. You and him are certified fruitcakes besides being AKB r*tards.

  64. Lee

    Midwest

    . I also happen to agree that Anelka was far from an average squad player.

    Let’s go back to the original point then I will deal with your attempts to discredit me

    First of all I didn’t say Anelka was average
    I said he failed
    And he did
    Total waste of talent
    La quenelle flipping arrogant Jewish hating wasp faced prick that he is.
    Who is he to deny the holocaust???
    Incidentally i didn’t see yourself or ozy getting your knickers in a twist over that piece of blatant RACISM!!!!
    Hypocrites

    Next
    It’s slightly worrying that you spend so much time admiring faceless people you have never met on the internet
    Try match.com. I think it’s more suited to your needs

    Now. Again here we go with my made up story.
    I have nothing to prove. What I said happened did happen.
    The woman in question is very dear to me and if you said that to my face I would wipe the floor with you.

    Now you obviously have a hard on for me but unfortunately I like women…….. But it looks like ozy has it bad for you so, webcam it up boys
    New York and Chicago ain’t so far away to deny the love that dare not speak it’s name.

    You say I’m a troll…. Why?? For responding to insults from people who you most likely consider friends but will never meet.
    Quite frankly winding up the tosspots on this site is only surpassed by winding up Chelsea fans I know

    Now. Get up. Get out of mummy’s basement and go and find real companionship mid west. These people are not your f-f-f-fwends.
    You need a real life so mummy can get rid of you and charge rent for the basement to someone who has a job

  65. Romford Ozil Pele

    New hot HR girl at work sitting right opposite me, lowest cleavage! How am I supposed to get worked done?! #stress

  66. gonsterous

    The board doesn’t expect Wenger to win the title coz they are getting a pretty good profit with out needing to spend extra to win… And Wenger is happy to just compete for 4 th and play his own way of football..and also he knows he would have to work extra hard to win the title and then there’ll be the pressure of winning it again.. and also.. fock the fans.. we don’t really care abt them or what they want.. just send the lads out to say sorry when we r doing terribly…

  67. Lee

    No le prof made valid points with a touch of humour.
    Not many on here that actually support arsenal, or have a sense of humour.
    Dour, serious and hateful towards your side. No wonder they used to call it the library with “fans” like you. Hissing into your teeth with rage every time Henry or wright popped one in……

  68. MidwestGun

    TY&GN –
    Nothing wrong with a half Jamaican/ Arabian supermodel girlfriend or two or 3 or 5 and a palm. Lol Like they say, nobody loves yourself like yourself. 😀

  69. Romford Ozil Pele

    CA/Alfie – Considering it’s a Monday, it’d been such a productive day up until about 10 mins ago! She’s ridiculous though, bourbon hair, hazel eyes, massive knockers… These emails and spreadsheets can wait!

    I have a girlfriend though so I have to behave!

  70. Romford Ozil Pele

    Lol CA, I work in St James Park (in Communications), literally two minutes from the station itself (DoE, DoH, Minstry of Justice, Scotland Yard are all within touching distance). This girl is going to wreak havoc, you can already tell. Natural tan, has those ‘come to bed’ eyes – I give it a month before one of the lads in the office have been through her.

  71. Romford Ozil Pele

    “I gotta wifey at home”

    Lol same, i’m trying to be on my best behaviour, but temptation and all that! Proper eye candy this one is!

  72. Le Prof

    TY

    ‘Thomas is right sorry. Every year for last 5 years we’ve heard how ‘ next season’ will be our season. Hasn’t quite happened yet has it?’

    Wasn’t really the argument though pal, was it?

    Its about progression and whether its happened these last couple of years.

  73. MidwestGun

    Lee –
    I don’t have a hard on for you, dude. Not my type. You keep addressing others and myself with disrespect when you don’t know the first thing about anyone here, basically generalizing. Also known as trolling. Insulting others for a reaction As for your childish insults. I’ll let them go as I’m almost 50 and if my mom wants to move back into my home. I would actually be ok with that. Doubt she wants to leave here warm climate tho.

    As for nobody here having a sense of humor. Hahaha. You have no idea, not a clue.

  74. Le Prof

    Deputy

    ‘As the only thing I’ve seen you contribute today is cheerleading Le Prof.’

    You be the person to ask about cheerleading though wouldn’t you?

  75. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Lol its worse when there your boss… trust me fella ;)”

    Lol, #firstworldproblems indeed. I don’t think I could cope.

    “Career women are some of the horniest fuckers”

    Too true. They really are and they live up to the stereotype. A lot of early graduates where I am, eager to progress, you see it in the way they behave/suck up! Lol i’ve done well in my time but there’s this 24-year-old guy who sits on my bank (decent looking, no homo) and he’s literally racking up the numbers by the week! Fair play to him.

  76. MidwestGun

    Seems to me any progress has to be measured against what our competitors are doing. If we progress at a trickle, and the rest increase at a raging flood. Won’t do much good. I’m hopeful Ffp will make a difference but I have my doubts.

  77. Willow Wilson

    London Gunner
    “Under Wenger we only achieved that kind of success with Thierry who was literally the best striker in the world”.

    Not true London.

    We won our first title, in fact the double, with a 17 year old striker who cost us just £500,000.

    He was replaced by TH14 for £11m. TH14 was not a striker when we bought him, he was a winger/wing back who we transformed into the player he became. He once told Wenger that he wasn’t a goalscorer, amazing really.

    Robin Van Persie was bought for just £2.75m.

    So we have not paid big money for a proven goalscorer.

    It is dangerous to base a players ability on their price tag. In a lot of cases this can be justified but it leads to a lot of misguided opinions.

    For example, Liverpool paid £16m for Balotelli ( 17, 3, 0) Spurs £26m for Soldado (23, 4, 1), Falcao £6m loan with £43.5m option, (19,6,4)

    Giroud cost just £10 million. (Played 15, scored 10, assist 2)

    The game is changing. Back in the day teams used to have one prolific striker but now goals are spread around the teams. In this respect, Arsenal have the most different goalscorers. Giroud plays a role in this.

    A striker nowadays is more of a link player. Giroud provides an important role for us as that lone striker. He can hold the ball and allows our pacey players to find space.

    What has happened is that fans look at a price tag, get annoyed we haven’t paid £40m and decide they aren’t going to give Giroud a chance. The fact he doesn’t have pace is used to beat him but he doesn’t need pace for the role he plays. The fact he scores important goals is often ignored too.

    Giroud is an important player for Arsenal and we missed him when he was injured. Most fans appreciate what he does and his value. Some others have decided from day one they were never going to respect him because of his price tag and that is just wrong.

  78. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Seems to me any progress has to be measured against what our competitors are doing.”

    Pretty much. At the end of the day, we may have made progress, but the two above us aren’t exactly stagnating. I’m hopeful that we’ll catch them up (as a fan, what else can I do?). The squad seems balanced now, it’s now about buying those individuals that can put us on a stable footing with our competitors. The collective is obviously the main aim but if you don’t have those elite individuals, you’ll always be a step behind.

  79. Nasri's Mouth

    Gambon: How is he a marquee player?

    Ozil not a marquee player ?

    Jesus. A £42m no.10 who does brilliant things on the pitch is probably the exact example of a marquee signing

  80. SpanishDave

    Giroud is at Wengers level as a player.
    He would not get a game att RM. Barca, Bayern, Man City Chelsea. All champions. That is why we will never win the PL.
    Do not say we cannot conpete financially as both our owners and major shareholders are as wealthy as Chelsea and Man City combined.
    The difference is that our owners have not put a single penny into our club, they will sell when they have made money through our stock value.
    Wenger has the best football job in the world 8 mill for not winning.

  81. MidwestGun

    Giroud the debate continues. Lol

    His hold up play and pace is actually the part I like least about his game. He wins headers from keeper punts, yes. However, if he finishes his chances at
    his current rate I can’t argue with that. As for important goals I would like to see more in the bigger matches, Chelsea, Man U, City, Pool, and CL obviously. Production for transfer fee value can’t complain.

  82. Nasri's Mouth

    london gunner: Maybe a manager like maurinho or simeone can win the premier league with Giroud as number striker, but never WEnger.

    How did Mourinho do last season when he had ‘average’ strikers?

    Mourinho generally gets good results because he manages sides full of good players.

    Where he’s done much better than Wenger this season is keeping his squad pretty much 100% fit.

  83. Le Prof

    Deputy

    ‘Huh? Oh you mean calling everyone here Pedro’s sheep and calling him a lier repeatedly? Ya I took exception to that.’

    No. Just quite simply you’d be the man to ask about cheerleading. Its not really a thing over here (the Crystal Palace skanks dont really signify a sea change in us adopting this strange practice any time soon).

  84. tunnygriffboy

    Barnes should be banned just like Cahill should have been. It’s irking me re Mourinho and the Chelsea fans are are crying for him to be punished yet have failed to condemn some of the horror challenges their players have made. Totally hipocrisy.

    Also shame on Sky for letting Mourinho to peddle his propoganda by not digging him out about the hipocrisy. Disgraceful.

  85. Romford Ozil Pele

    L’Oreal is trying man, can’t knock his productivity. Already into double figures despite missing three months. Scored against United, away to Pool and City. Don’t ever think he’ll be to everyone’s taste (I include myself in this) but he’s doing ok, evidenced by 8 in 11. Generally speaking, I like my strikers to have pace, and that’s why i’m in the minority that still back Dat guy hugely. I think those expecting us to go for a striker in the summer will be disappointed. I actually only see Wenger signing one player though I could be massively mistaken as he’s hard to second guess.

  86. MidwestGun

    Lol @Le Prof-
    Oh you mean actual cheerleading. Ya it’s a cultural thing I’m sure, it’s engrained in our American school systems. Pep rallies etc…..

    But you would have to show me where I was advocating for it as a worldwide thing? Could care less, other then seeing hot women in short skirts can’t see much benefit beyond publicity.

  87. MidwestGun

    Lee

    Im out of here bruh. Keep fighting the good fight…LOL
    __________
    See the fact you think you are battling some cause or fighting the good fight. Also, trolling. Not here to engage in any type of real discussion just score points or whatever it is your doing. .

  88. Nasri's Mouth

    RP: Generally speaking, I like my strikers to have pace,

    Yeah, the sight of Giroud valiantly but ultimately pointlessly pumping those legs up and down as he ‘sprints’ across the pitch is depressing.

  89. Nasri's Mouth

    RP: I actually only see Wenger signing one player though I could be massively mistaken as he’s hard to second guess.

    There’ll probably be a couple of youth projects signed up, but it’s hard to see us signing too many first teamers over the summer.

    If Szczesny has really pissed him off then maybe a keeper, but I think that’s unlikely
    If Walcott wont sign a deal, then a replacement for him.

    Most likely is the fabled DM, unless Bielik is ‘Vieira’ like in his development and even then it’s a big ask for that role.

  90. Willow Wilson

    Midwest
    “I agree, the way to stop harsh challenges is retroactive fines that hurt. (Large amounts). Video replay evidence and then retroactive fines, perhaps leading to suspension for repeat offenses. It’s the way it done in almost every sport.”

    Exactly.

    Unfortunately, Football in the England is run by dinosaurs. Dinosaur coaches, the FA, referees under PGMOL, pundits, journalists – these guys are all still living in the past. They think football is still about kicking nine bells out of each other and letting the ref’s deal with it. We even still carry around some of the racism we had in the 70’s and 80’s.

  91. Ozy

    Regarding Ozil, somebody just a few hours ago said something of note:

    “Its funny : Mesut Ozil gets targeted because he’s apparently not been value for the 42 million paid. Giroud gets targeted because he’s not World class. Why doesn’t the same ‘value for money’ logic apply to Giroud”

    We paid, what, 15 million for Giroud? Who actually expected him to be world class? Not his fault Wenger relied on him to be our leading striker and Van Persie’s replacement.

  92. MidwestGun

    I wouldn’t mind a Dybala type of striker who can play anywhere across the front, is still very young, and is known for assists. But ya… im not optimistic. And the Lewandowski rumors, ya no chance in my mind.

  93. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Most likely is the fabled DM, unless Bielik is ‘Vieira’ like in his development and even then it’s a big ask for that role.”

    And that would be foolish IMO. We already have enough players we’re developing. There are a plethora of good DMs on the market who’d be great for us. I’d be very angry/disapointed if we cheaped this one out.

    RE Theo – Just pushes Gnabry further forward. We’re still well stocked in attacking positions, even with the three we’ve let go.

  94. Rhys Jaggar

    Let’s put some facts into the ‘the stadium move had an impact’ debate/argument:

    1. On 31st May 2006 i.e. at the end of the financial year when completion of the new stadium occurred, cash reserves were £35.6m (lifted from the accounts pdf found at the club’s website): that says that, apart from the season ticket money for the 2006/07 season just received, the club had zilch in the bank. I know from personal experience that 50% of all the corporate/Club Level income for the 2006/07 season was levied 12 months in advance, so that might suggest that finances were tight around that time.
    2. In that first summer and the subsequent transfer window in January, Arsenal purchased around 7 players and sold/released around 7 players. Expensive departures included Henry, Reyes and Ljungberg, whilst players on reasonable salaries coming in included Sagna and Eduardo. It suggests to me that controlling wages was an issue at that time.
    3. Operating cash flow increased £36m in the first year at Emirates Stadium vs the final season at Highbury, which suggests that, although the club was stretched in terms of debt finance on the stadium and the property redevelopment, the football business had increased significantly in profitability right from the start. Cash reserves 12 months on at the stadium were £73m, a net increase of £38m, partly attributable to increased season ticket revenues being paid in courtesy of the much larger stadium. During that 1st year, the club recorded an exceptional finance charge associated with converting the bridging loan into a 25 year mortgage, the value of which was just over £20m. It is therefore fair to say that in the first year at the stadium, a very tight cash position needed to be consolidated to cover the eventuality of not qualifying for the Champions League.
    4. In 2008, revenues from football increased again to see them £70m higher than the final season at Highbury, breaking the £200m barrier for the first time. The club was exceptionally profitable, both in P+L terms (£36.9m before tax), as well as in cash terms (net inflow of just under £20m). Cash reserves were then up to £93m which, after a reserve for the mortgage showed after subtracting season ticket prepayments, the club was starting to built a true cash nest egg 2 years after moving in, despite player wages rising above £100m. The club was challenging on three fronts until a collapse in March saw no trophies and a 3rd place finish in the league.
    5. In 2009, the financial performance was almost identical with operating profit before tax of £39m and net cash inflow of £6.4m. Cash reserves almost hit £100m for the first time.
    6. In 2010, football turnover plateaued whilst a one-off profit of £15m from property sales augmented an already very profitable operation. Profit before tax of £56m and net cash inflow of £28m saw the cash pile increase to £127.6m, with wages now up at £110m. At this point it is arguable that a significant transfer reserve was present, prudently estimated at £50m.
    7. In 2011, 5 years after the move was completed, operating profit from football became almost neutral (£2.2m), augmented with £12m of property profits, and player trading profits went from profits of £13.6m to investments of £14.6m. Yet again, cash increased by £32m to give May 31st 2011 cash reserves of £160m.

    That story of the first 5 years at Emirates stadium says that Arsenal FC made a business choice to hoard £130m of cash between May 2006 and May 2011. Let us assume that there was a £30m deficit in 2006 from the 2006/7 season ticket money due to it being levied in summer 2005 to pay the builders. That means that the true hoarding was in fact £100m over 5 years.

    The club will know better than us what constraints were placed upon them by financiers due to the stadium debt and the property development operation, however my reading is that £70m of funds could have been made available for investment in the 1st team squad during the period 2007 – 2011, had the Board of Directors made a decision to operate in such a manner.

  95. Nasri's Mouth

    @RP

    I’d rather see Gnabry go off on loan next season. I don’t think Wenger will promote him to Walcott’s replacement.

    Wenger’s looking for a playmaker enforcer for his CDM role. I’m not sure there’s a plethora that fit his requirements

  96. MidwestGun

    I would actually prefer a box to box type midfielder In the summer. Maybe a backup to Coq also if he keeps progressing and to replace Flamini. Or maybe a versatile midfielder who can do either to replace the Diaby myth. Pogba? Lol. I keeed.
    But I realize it would mean a change of mind from Wenger regarding JW and Ramsey. If we got two starters, a keeper and a midfielder. I guess I would have to consider that realistic. My preference would be a btb, cdm, keeper, and versatile striker who can play left side. At least one starter.

  97. Romford Ozil Pele

    “I’d rather see Gnabry go off on loan next season. I don’t think Wenger will promote him to Walcott’s replacement.”

    Why not? He was playing in Theo’s absence and also with him too. It’s not like he can’t handle himself. If it’s a playing time issue then fair enough but I think Wenger would be happy to keep him. Expecting Sanogo to return and Akpom to go on loan.

    “Wenger’s looking for a playmaker enforcer for his CDM role. I’m not sure there’s a plethora that fit his requirements”

    You see I think this is a bit overrated. I get what you’re saying. Arteta is very good at tempo-dictating from deep and that certainly helps with us keeping the ball better but there isn’t anything overly complex in the way he operates. There’s numerous ways to be effective in the DM role anyway.

  98. Romford Ozil Pele

    Still feel Wenger has a thing for Chesney, despite his recent indiscretions – may be wrong though. No way we sign two midfielders with Wilshere/Ramsey here, One maximum. With Coq’s progression it’ll only be one. Remains to be seen what Wenger does with Bielik too. We’ll see.

  99. Cesc Appeal

    Oh Lewandowski…what a player.

    CDM is an absolute necessity, if Wenger can’t find something that fits his mould tough shit, he needs to add some real class in there to do the job the team needs even if it isn’t the one he wants.

  100. Lee

    Midwest

    Nothing of the sort.I’m not looking for an conversation with you at all particularly
    I didn’t address you.
    You interjected between myself and eagle:

    Eagle insulted me.
    So I wound him up.then you fly in with your flappy Boy Scout cape and begin lapping at the back of eagles panties about how intellectual he is
    Bla bla bla bla bla……..
    Eagle insulted me
    Then you did and then you label EVRYONE else a troll!!!
    Don’t give people stick if you can’t take it back.

  101. Leedsgunner

    Middy @1544

    LMAO… remind me not to get in to your bad books. 😉 I know it’s Monday but honestly? 😉 It was Desert Stormesque if you allow the expression.

  102. gonsterous

    Really wish we would buy a striker..but unless Giroud leaves or does a chamakh , I don’t see Wenger selling him.. and also there’s this small matter of welbeck being available.. we r not going after a striker..

  103. Nasri's Mouth

    I see we’re expanding London Colney. Good to see there’ll be plenty more room for players to recover from injury

  104. london gunner

    William willson

    Sure he is good, but just not good enough.

    “We won our first title, in fact the double, with a 17 year old striker who cost us just £500,000.”

    Whose better than Giroud and…

    “For example, Liverpool paid £16m for Balotelli ( 17, 3, 0) Spurs £26m for Soldado (23, 4, 1), Falcao £6m loan with £43.5m option, (19,6,4)”

    But your not seeing the whole picture. You yourself are guilty of just looking at the price tag. Balotelli was always going to be a gamble not only is a wild card, but his entire game is completely the opposite of the style of play liverpool play with.

    Soldaldo was a terrible purchase because he was and only ever has been a poacher for his entire career. It should have been obvious that it wouldn’t work at totteham if they expected him to have an all round game which is where he sorely is lacking.

    Falcao also was a poor decision, one the fee is ridiculous no arsenal fan is asking for that. But it was such a poor decision because his an old player whose just returned from a potentially career threatening injury it was a massive gamble.

    Now I personally wanted Tevez whose fuccking miles better than Giroud. He was premier league proven and cost only 8 million as well as having pace/strength and a clinical finisher who can dribble and hold up play. Add to that his incredible work ethic and free-kick taking you have a far superior player to Giroud. We didn’t even test the water with City we just let it slip through our fingers.

    Now I also have mentioned Bony top goal scorer after the best three strikers in the world. Prolfic goal scorer his entire career. Strong (much more so than Giroud) better footballer with the ball at his feet can actually beat a man on the dribble and far more proficient shooter (clinical not just from tap ins). Ok he is not rapid, but he is not handicapped like Giroud is when he faces teams where we need the striker to have at least a tiny modicum of pace. I would also say his link up play is superior, his through-balls and dinks are a real treat to watch and its no coincidence he fit right in with Swansea free flowing possession based game. In fact that is a major argument to say that he would have fit right in at AFC.

    “He was replaced by TH14 for £11m. TH14 was not a striker when we bought him, he was a winger/wing back who we transformed into the player he became. He once told Wenger that he wasn’t a goalscorer, amazing really.Robin Van Persie was bought for just £2.75m.”

    Giroud is what 28? 29? So it doesn’t matter that Thierry was a cheap purchase it matters that he was a WC one. Giroud at his age will never ever reach that level and we need that level to even think of toppling City/Chelsea let alone the powerhouses of Europe.

  105. MidwestGun

    Lee –
    Seriously ? You were insulting Eagle by calling him sparrow and questioning him because he’s Irish? So ya I pointed out you were being clueless. Ummm and I merely said Eagle has an encyclopedic type mind. And I explained why. Then you addressed me. Hence the copy paste of your EXACT comment.

    And let’s be clear I’m only labeling you and Le Prof as trolls. I can give examples if you like.

  106. Leedsgunner

    I see we’re expanding London Colney. Good to see there’ll be plenty more room for players to recover from injury

    Maybe they’ll name the new complex the Abou Diaby Centre…. 😉