Arsenal roast Villa

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Good morning, lovely people – James here writing a very tired post. Sunday nights are the pits – that horrible feeling of not being able to get to sleep, whilst knowing you need to get to sleep, which stresses you out more and prevents you sleeping. It’s a vicious cycle. But I’m a trooper and will soldier on.  It’s February at last, bringing an end to for all to dry January, the worst creation since half and half scarves (that were selling like hot cakes yesterday). All that is, aside from Pedro, who has resolutely claimed to be giving up the sauce for February. Fucking hipster.

Anyway, onto the game, which served up a veritable treat and warmed the cockles on what must have been the coldest day since records began. Anywhere. Ever. In the pub pre-game we were expecting a fairly turgid affair, given Villa’s decent defensive record and impotence up top – they truly are the floppiest willy of all attacking line-ups we’ve played this season.

Those fears were quickly allayed however, when in the opening 10 minutes we found the breakthrough, with the goal highlighting the value of a playmaker of Ozil’s quality in the side. One of our defenders (Hector, perhaps) lofted a clearance from the back, which appeared to be floating harmlessly towards the halfway line. However, in a moment of sheer genius, Ozil had the wherewithal to flick the ball on with the outside of his boot to find Giroud bearing down on goal. Admittedly, I had little faith in this resulting in a goal; firstly due to our Adonis’ lack of pace and secondly as a result of his showreel of fluffed one-on-ones. I like Giroud as a player and think he’s been superb this season, but his goals have tended to come from one-touch finishes. If you consider the fluffed chance at Chelsea away last season or Liverpool away the season before that, his Arsenal career has been somewhat littered with fluffed lines in that respect. For a moment it seemed he had wasted the chance with the ball slipping away from him, but he rescued the situation with a delightful dink over the onrushing Guzan. A brilliant goal and the perfect panacea to the frostbite developing on my man-parts.

The second goal saw a role reversal, with Giroud turning provider for Ozil in a really slick move. Theo started the attack breaking from our half and playing it to Giroud who slipped Ozil through one on one with a slide rule pass. Ozil still had plenty to do, but showed poise and composure to slot it into the far corner. It was a superb finish and did a lot to dispel the myth that Ozil is ‘slow’. Clearly he is a player who is selective about when he sprints full pelt, but a burst of pace is something we haven’t seen regularly enough from him. Plenty more of that please.

Our third came shortly after in equally impressive fashion. Theo, with the ball on the left touchline played it inside to Santi and then made an arcing run toward the centre of the 18 yard box, making him nigh on impossible to pick up. Santi fed it into Theo’s feet, with his first touch taking him away from a defender before opening up his body and slotting home a superb finish. I thought Theo was poor yesterday and looked understandably rusty, but that was a brilliant goal and underlined what a useful weapon he can be when utilized properly.

It was good to see Chuba get a decent run out for the last 25 minutes or so. He looked extremely lively when he came on, constantly harrying the Villa defence and causing them problems with his physicality. He did well to win the penalty for our fourth goal, knocking the ball past Guzan who clearly pulled him down. Santi took the proceeding spot kick and it must be one of the worst penalties I’ve seen that resulted in a goal. Nevertheless it’s another goal for our impish magician, which topped another excellent performance. He’s playing so well at the moment; it will almost be a surprise when he eventually doesn’t have a blinder.

We got a fifth goal late on, with Hector opening his Arsenal account with a really assured finish from outside the area. It was the cherry on the icing on the cake for the Catalonian quiff aficionado, who is looking more assured by the game. Bravo.

So three points won in style and the perfect prelude to the North London Derby this Saturday. A win was essential, given it was one of those weekends where everyone else won and the result did our goal difference a world of good. Seeing Southampton get turned over at home by Swansea was a very pleasant surprise, which now puts us level on points with them, save for their superior goal difference (of one goal, I believe).

We are now edging towards a critical point in the season – knockout rounds in the Champions League, the FA Cup is nearing its sharp end and the league positions are beginning to take shape. Fortunately, our team is looking as if it is beginning to peak at just the right time. Clearly a significant reason for this is the return of injured players, but I also get the impression that Wenger is slowly finding the right balance for this side. His change to the 4-1-4-1 formation has had mixed results this season, but a tweak in personnel seems to have catalysed an improvement. Taking out Flamini for Coquelin has had a big impact and I do hope the benefits of having an athletic player in that position have highlighted to Wenger why a signing is essential in that position this summer. Whilst Le Coq has done a brilliant job so far, in my view it highlights what a difference a player of that ilk could make to the squad, but of better quality. Conversely, someone made the point at the pub after the game that if we signed Coquelin for £20 million this January, there’d be spaffed boxers everywhere over his performances.

Bellerin is another player who looks the business. For some time there’s been very positive noises coming from those close to the academy about Hector and it’s great to see him taking his chance with such aplomb. Clearly he’s got blistering pace, but his positioning is very impressive for someone so inexperienced and his delivery is very promising. He also keeps up the #dreamboat movement at the club of beautiful players (Gabriel bringing the mean average down somewhat though).

A word too for Ospina who made a couple of excellent saves yesterday and looked generally assured in all he did. Clearly he hasn’t been hugely tested so far, but the signs are promising and he certainly brings an air of calm to proceedings. Whether he’s the long-term answer I don’t know, but he hasn’t put a foot wrong. I still expect us to sign a new keeper this summer to compete with Ospina as I think Chezzer’s days are numbered at Arsenal. It’s a shame as he obviously has massive talent, but that’s coupled with being an utter bellend. If he gets moved on, he only has himself to blame.

So, my least favourite game of the season coming up this weekend and I am not looking forward to it one iota. Whilst I know we are a superior team to Spurs in every department (except goalkeeper), a trip to White Hart Lane never fails to fill me with trepidation. It’s completely irrational given our record there, but if you offered me a point now, I’d take it and run. In terms of personnel, I’d keep the same team we played yesterday, with the exception of bringing in Ox or Alexis (depending on who is fit) for Theo. In a game like this, especially away from home, we need everyone to contribute and whilst Theo is a cracking player, his best work tends to be done only at the sharp end of the pitch.

Right, that’s your lot.  Enjoy what is going to be the longest week of the year in the build up to the game x

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  1. gambon

    “Okay a bit late to reply but Tits and Gambon , we were also top for 128 days, nobody praised us then . Chelsea hasnt won the title yet. For a team that good they had the chance to finish the title , with City beaten . Instead chose to park the bus .”

    Lol, i’d be willing to bet Chelsea do a lot better than scraping 4th like mighty Arsene did last year

  2. Ozy

    Yeah Romford, that’s why he continued with “Chelsea hasnt won the title yet”

    Did you read it all or just decide to nitpick and comment on out of context sentences?

  3. DUIFG

    Have to give credit to og for getting in his bike when he sees that ball “played” into ozil, always been his best strength is his off the ball movement, lot of guys would have reacted late to that.

    Makes me think ozil is pulling off the insane in training as well!

  4. Nasri's Mouth

    This season

    Giroud has played 894 mins scored 8 and assisted 2.

    That’s a goal or assist every 89.4 mins

    Diego Costa has played 2152 mins, scored 17 assisted 2.

    That’s a goal or assist every 113.26 mins

    I’m not saying Giroud is better than Costa this season, but if we’d signed someone this summer and they’d given us those stats he’d be getting a lot of praise

  5. gambon

    ““Okay a bit late to reply but Tits and Gambon , we were also top for 128 days, nobody praised us then ”

    Also, this is a complete lie.

  6. divinesherlock

    Yeah no doubt gambon thats the point , got unlimited resources and all you can manage is a draw, when you could’ve killed the title race . Imagine the hate wenger must’ve gotten if he did that

  7. DUIFG

    The 128 days at top was always a fake position, said from the off that year it was anybody’s league as it was a post fergie era and mour had not settled in.

    At no point at that time did I believe we would win the league, apart from a couple demented sorts everyone accepted that we would inevitably get pegged back once people slowly came out of their transitionary periods.

  8. Romford Ozil Pele

    “Did you read it all or just decide to nitpick and comment on out of context sentences?”

    Of course I read it all. And it’s ridiculous to point out that we were top for X amount of days. What does that really matter in the grand scheme of things?

  9. Leedsgunner

    ““we were also top for 128 days, nobody praised us then””

    They didn’t need to.

    Wenger went on about it, ad nauseum when he thought out FA Cup chances were less than great (ie. before Wigan knocked out Man City)

    I don’t want praise. Talk is cheap. I want AFC to chase trophies and capture titles. The problem with Wenger is his ego, he wants the football world to tell him how brilliant he is — even though in recent years he has given them very little reason to. If he spent less time talking and more time doing his job, we might have won more than 1 cup in nine years.

  10. WengerEagle

    Romford

    Really?

    They just signed Doumbia for £10 million too.

    So they’ve gone from having Gervinho as their only quick player to having the fastest frontline in Serie A in Ibarbo-Doumbia-Gervinho.

    Nice. Shame that they’ve already blown the Scudetto though.

  11. gambon

    “Yeah no doubt gambon thats the point , got unlimited resources and all you can manage is a draw, when you could’ve killed the title race . Imagine the hate wenger must’ve gotten if he did that”

    Unlimited resources, who would that be?

    last time i checked we are clearly outspending Chelsea.

    So what does that say about Arsene?

    Stop with your weird little “must defend wenger” bollocks and start looking at things with a little bit of impartiality.

    However, if you honestly think winning that game was Chelseas most important goal you are insane.

    Then again i usually find the Wenger lovers are of very limited intelligence.

    I think in general people that adopt surrogate father figures like Wenger are missing a few brain cells, no different to religious nuts/cult members.

  12. Nasri's Mouth

    Gambon: last time i checked we are clearly outspending Chelsea.

    How much did our squad cost compared to Chelsea?

  13. divinesherlock

    My point is being taken out of context people . What I am trying to say is what kind of tactic did Mourinho have when he doesnt have Cesc/Costa ? ? Anyone who saw that game knows it . Park the bus . Hazard for all his showboating skills cannot open defences on his own. Unlimited resource and Mourinho dont have any plan B . Its why hes goin after Cuadrado.

  14. Romford Ozil Pele

    Eagle, yeah some ridiculous pace in that Roma frontline now. Think this may push Totti towards retirement. They haven’t won a game since Gervinho left (lol). Seven points is still doable but they’ll have to be pretty faultless from here on in.

  15. Nasri's Mouth

    gambon: Then again i usually find the Wenger lovers are of very limited intelligence.

    And of course a Wenger hater like Highbury Daze is a shining light in Mensa

  16. gambon

    “How much did our squad cost compared to Chelsea?”

    Misses the point.

    Chelsea are pulling away from us.

    So if you are gong to use spend as an indication of quality you will only prove my point.

    Wenger is outspending Jose, but Jose is getting further ahead of Wenger.

    Using financial arguments to justify Wenger rarely finishes above teams that outspend him.

  17. gambon

    “And of course a Wenger hater like Highbury Daze is a shining light in Mensa”

    No he’s just mentally ill.

    However theres no doubt that the Arsene FC fans have incredibly incoherent arguments.

  18. divinesherlock

    Okay Gambon since you know so much , how many trophies has Mourinho won since his return ? ? The point is same the title race is not done yet . They are out of FA Cup knocked out by none other than Bradford . We are outspending Chelsea ? I dont know Gambon after so many years of financial doping they got from the Russian. So yeah its finally nice that we as a Club are finally outspending them, love Mourinho’s face when he complained about FFP .

  19. OnlyCameToSeeEboue

    No one care to assess Nasris analysis on Giroud or are we all gonna keep harping on about how terrible he is?

  20. gambon

    “Okay Gambon since you know so much , how many trophies has Mourinho won since his return ? ? ”

    Lol, this is the best argument you have?

    How many trophies Mourinho has won in ONE season?

    Yet I assume you gave Wenger a pass 8 seasons in a row?

  21. gambon

    “However theres no doubt that the Arsene FC fans have incredibly incoherent arguments.”
    .
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    .as if by magic
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    “Okay Gambon since you know so much , how many trophies has Mourinho won since his return ? ?”

  22. Romford Ozil Pele

    “No one care to assess Nasris analysis on Giroud or are we all gonna keep harping on about how terrible he is?”

    Think most acknowledge he’s done well. Happy to have him around. But it’s his third season here, you’d expect some semblance of consistency from him now, especially with the players behind him.

  23. Leedsgunner

    Name calling…all the while talking about intelligence. What was the saying again if you can’t say anything nice… how did it end again? 😉

  24. Nasri's Mouth

    Gambon: Misses the point.

    Not really. Chelsea’s squad is worth more than ours, so they should finish above ours. That’s a simple correlation.

    If you use last season as evidence that Chelsea are pulling away from us, you could just as easily say that Chelsea should have been much further ahead last season and should have won a trophy instead of us.

  25. Nasri's Mouth

    Gambon: No he’s just mentally ill.

    Ahh, so Wenger lovers are short of a brain cell and Wenger haters are mentally ill?

    Is that it?

  26. gambon

    I think Giroud has 7 goals, not 8

    However hes played 690 mins in the PL, sorry but thats not enough to get a measure on real quality.

    Papiss Cisse has a goal every 71 minutes, so why arent you all praising him?

    Loic Remy has a goal every 90 minutes, so is he the third best striker in the PL after Giroud and Cisse at number 1?

    Obviously these 3 are all better than Aguero/Costa etc

  27. gambon

    “Ahh, so Wenger lovers are short of a brain cell and Wenger haters are mentally ill?”

    No Highbury Daze is mentally ill.

    There are no Wenger haters here apart from him, just a few people who have supported Arsenal since before 1996.

  28. Nasri's Mouth

    gambon: There are no Wenger haters here apart from him,

    So when someone calls him a cunt or wishes him dead, you don’t think that qualifies them as a ‘hater’ ?

  29. gambon

    Nasris Mouth

    Right, so you are saying the value of your squad, or more specifically how much you spend on it, determines how good the team is right?

    You arent wrong to do that.

    However if you say spend determines your realistic finishing position, then that means you must also accept that an increased spend relative to another team should see you catch up with them, and eventually overtake them.

    You cant have it both ways,

    So why arent we catching Chelsea?

    We finished 3 points behind them last season, have since spent £65m net to their £16m and are now 11 points behind them.

    What does that tell you?

  30. gambon

    “So when someone calls him a cunt or wishes him dead, you don’t think that qualifies them as a ‘hater’ ?”

    The former is not hate, because its the truth.

    the latter, well, theres likely only one way to actually get a competent manager, and this is it, so its understandable.

  31. divinesherlock

    Gambon you clearly are the best at evading answers , I can give you that. we all know why we gave Wenger 8 seasons, building a stadium while remaining financialy stable , all that without any Russian Oil money, for all things Mourinho did when there was no FFP , he never won Champions League . Now in his second season and even the PL is uncertain, CL has many contenders and hes been knocked out of FA cup . Wenger promised silverware after FFP. Last season he delivered on that. This season despite injuries we are 5th on level with 4th separated by GD , with Good chance of winning FA Cup again.

  32. divinesherlock

    Gambon you clearly are the best at evading questions , I can give you that. we all know why we gave Wenger 8 seasons, building a stadium while remaining financialy stable , all that without any Russian Oil money, for all things Mourinho did when there was no FFP , he never won Champions League . Now in his second season and even the PL is uncertain, CL has many contenders and hes been knocked out of FA cup . Wenger promised silverware after FFP. Last season he delivered on that. This season despite injuries we are 5th on level with 4th separated by GD , with Good chance of winning FA Cup again.

  33. Leedsgunner

    “Midfielders Chris David and Thomas Eisfeld have both left Championship club Fulham on loan for the remainder of the season.”

    To think we’ve signed him when Goetze was still available at BvB. One players scores the winning goal at a WC final — the other can’t get a game at Fulham.

    *facepalm*

  34. SomeRandomGunner

    I think we should wait and see how far we end up from Chelsea. Not so long ago we were 16 points away from them. More than one third of games are left . Chelsea have not won the title yet , like how we did not win the title in Jan last year.

    Personally i would love Mourinho to end up trophy less again . Hopefully Wenger will some day win against Mourinho , hoping that it is this year ending Chelsea’s title hopes.

  35. Nasri's Mouth

    Gambon: What does that tell you?

    That Chelsea underperformed last season and should have been further ahead than just 3 points.

    your argument is based on the 3 point difference between Chelsea and Arsenal being the correct baseline for the difference in squads, whereas actually 3 points is a much lower gap than it should have been.

  36. Nasri's Mouth

    Gambon: The former is not hate, because its the truth.the latter, well, theres likely only one way to actually get a competent manager, and this is it, so its understandable.

    Well done for showing that people at both extremes are just as wrong / stupid / crazy as each other.

  37. tunnygriffboy

    Those twats Durham and Gough waxing lyrical about how Sturridge is like a new signing for Rodgers and slotted in perfectly. If that’s the case then we’ve had 17 new signings this window

    Seriously it’s amazing how lpool, man u get loads of sympathy for their injuries. There was even sympathy for Chelsea missing fabregas and stampede Billy. We on the other hand are just shite for losing games. Why no consistency from the media ? Bugs me.

  38. gambon

    “for all things Mourinho did when there was no FFP , he never won Champions League”

    Erm, i think you will find he won it twice!

    Wenger???…..

  39. Nasri's Mouth

    @tunnygriffboy

    I think pundits and others tend not focus on our injuries in the same way no-one focuses on the sun coming up every day

  40. Nasri's Mouth

    And remember that Durham @ Talksport is there to do a job.

    I have no idea whether he likes or dislikes Arsenal, but he knows that criticism of the club is an efficient way to generate ‘hits’. His ‘on-air’ view will more than likely always be the extreme one because that makes more business sense.

  41. Ozy

    “Le Coq is baller …wish he was a bit taller….”

    I wish he had a girl who looked good, he would call her
    I wish he had a rabbit in a hat with a bat and a six four impala

  42. Me

    Romford Ozil Pele February 2, 2015
    14:13:26
    “It is absolutely shameful the disdain this
    society has for jobs that require you to get
    your hands dirty.”
    It’s not really a case of insulting anyone’s
    profession. In the UK, manufacturing,
    engineering etc, are very highly valued
    even if they’re not the most popular
    occupations. The dude has just openly
    abused many on LeGrove for no apparent
    reason.

    I understand you.Yes the guy is silly but Gambon saying he lacks intellect because he is a bricklayer is just stupid.Gambon is very intelligent but he is just stupid.

  43. Nasri's Mouth

    By the way I watched Top Gear last night, and I’m sure I saw a picture of Alexis Sanchez on their desk

    Anyone else see it or know why they had it?

  44. tunnygriffboy

    Leeds

    I know the media shouldn’t wind me up but it does sometimes. It’s not as bad as some of our own supporters twisting facts and figures to discredit our clubs and players. We can’t suddenly have WC players in all positions, it will take a bit of time. We have started spending but we will always have to invest in young players and just below WC and develop them to supplement the superstars.

    Why are we always smashing Giroud ? Limited but doing a good job. He’s fresh this season and we can keep him fresh not like last season.

    We may be spending more than Chelsea now but we are playing 10 years catch up and are building our squad as opposed to tinkering with it selling and buying 30 million pound players.

  45. salparadisenyc

    Late to the party.. paying the price for an indulgent Sunday. Morning kickoffs NY time never end well on that end of things. Seems a quiet for deadline day for most, a year ago the name Kallstrom surfaced about this time.

    Still a enjoying that Villa result and there murderous high line. Lambert is surely gone.

  46. Nasri's Mouth

    salparadisenyc: Still a enjoying that Villa result and there murderous high line. Lambert is surely gone.

    Yeah, I’d have played deep, started Agbonlahor and tried to hit us on the break.

    Agbonlahor is their best attacking player.

  47. gonsterous

    Why would giroud worry.. He doesn’t go around saying bullshit to the media abt the other players or Wenger… He knows no one else can play the lone striker as effectively as him… He knows Wenger needs him for his Ariel strength when defending and he also knows Wenger doesn’t drop players based on form… He just needs to stay under the radar and he is starting every game till we get a much much much better striker and also if Wenger decides to change formations

  48. Keyser

    NM – I didn’t watch the Top Gear Argentina special, but supposedly Chile helped them out of the country, so they’re showing Chile some love.

  49. Keyser

    We don’t have anyone who matches Giroud’s physicality, Welbeck tries but falls short, I think Giroud knows his limitations with the way he’s made his way through the ranks later in his career and he’s probably just enjoying it.

  50. Insomnia

    I like pizza – not as much as I like Cazorla but about the same as I like Monreal. On the other hand I like ozil almost exactly the same as ice cream.

    What is the relevance of my point?
    Precisely nothing…

  51. Insomnia

    I like Mourinho about as much as I like rancid milk – lumpy smelly crap. Whereas wenger is more akin to vodka – gave me lots of good nights years ago but now in my forties it increasingly makes me narky and paranoid…

  52. Johnty79

    I must say this is the happiest I’ve been with the arsenal squad since 2001-2. Our squad in 2003-4 was weak hence we blew the quadruple.

    But now we have cover in every position. Schneiderlin would cap it off in the summer. Despite my negativeness this season I gave maintained we will finish third and get to the semis of the champs league.

    I actually think now we have a real chance of winning the champs league…

    You heard it here first but I still here a rumour that wellbeck is leaving for spurs in the summer 24m. Wenger didn’t want to sign him permantly when in he went to the fat icon on deadline day….I think it will be a massive mistake.

    Away from home wenger must play

    Sanchez welbeck Walcott
    Ox/carzorla Ramsay
    Coquelin

    The pace will destroy teams. I have a feeling we will get Chelsea in the quarters.

    But on a sour note we must sell the following to raise funds

    Schezny
    Wilshere

    Not needed and the team plays worse with them in the team.

  53. Insomnia

    gambonFebruary 2, 2015 17:21:30
    “So when someone calls him a cunt or wishes him dead, you don’t think that qualifies them as a ‘hater’ ?”The former is not hate, because its the truth.the latter, well, theres likely only one way to actually get a competent manager, and this is it, so its understandable.

    What a load of self serving shite.

    If I called you, Gambon, a cunt and wished you dead so you would no longer post tedious sonorous nonsense – even if it were the truth (which its not obviously)that would not be because I was a selfless seeker after the truth it would be because I had neither the intelligence or the humour to get my point across more eloquently.

  54. Leedsgunner

    Tunny

    “We may be spending more than Chelsea now but we are playing 10 years catch up and are building our squad as opposed to tinkering with it selling and buying 30 million pound players.”

    I suppose so although the counter argument to that could be what about the 17 years of continual Champions’ League qualification that Arsene always crows on about? Where has all the money gained from that gone? Even if we made £20m per extra per annum, we had a pot of £340m we could draw up on. (The £20m is a conservative average estimate on my part and not anything scientific).

    Sure then we can point to the cost of the stadium and it was a significant outlay.
    However my point is because of our prudence and success in the first part of Arsene’s tenure than enough money to put a good size down payment and purchase world class players.

    Plus it’s not like we were looking for 4 or 5 WC purchases all at once. Between 2008 until now we have been perpetually 2 or 3 players away from a competitive side. Had we spent one £30m player every year between 2008 and 2011 we would have won a title and not lost the players like RvP, Cesc and Nasri. Imagine how strong we would be if we had them still.

    Let’s not throw a pity party deluding ourselves that the club had no money.

    Before Abrahamovich we were in the world’s elite club competition for over 7 years — and I would argue we were blocks ahead of the competition… with the exception of Man United. After the stadium was built we are pulling in more money than almost anyone else in the EPL.

    Chelsea overtook us because at the end of the day we allowed them because Wenger became complacent. The stadium became an excuse NOT to spend rather than a reason we couldn’t.

  55. Insomnia

    Wenger to make a HUUUGGEEE announcment tonight – sources very close to him (an Alsatian dog and a part-time economist) have revealed that he will sell Cazorla because “his relentless smiling gets on my tits a little bit”

  56. Nasri's Mouth

    Leedsgunner: Had we spent one £30m player every year between 2008 and 2011 we would have won a title and not lost the players like RvP, Cesc and Nasri.

    Impossible to know we’d have won the title.

    Even with hindsight could you pick the 4 £30m players in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011 that we should have purchased to guarantee us the league?

  57. BacaryisGod

    I didn’t know our Coq was that small. He seems to win his fair share of headers.

    Not sure Essien and Makale we’re towering giants either.

    I agree with Gambon. We do need to strengthen our DM. Still, I’m guessing 90% plus of Arsenal fans would support releasing Flam and Arteta this summer and bring Schneiderlin in.

  58. Insomnia

    Leedsgunner,

    I dont think AW was either a genius or an idiot over the stadium but I do think we got hit by the collapse of the financial market which as far as I recall removed/reduced the possibility of making a big dollop of cash in one go on property sales.

    But yes AW’s prudence/overcaution reduced our spending over those years.

  59. BacaryisGod

    Who wins: Present or Departed?

    Ospina, Debuchy, Gibbs, Kozzer,Mertesacker, Coquelin, Ramsey, Cazorla, Sanchez, Ozil, Giroud

    Or

    Fabianski, Sagna, Clichy, Vermaelen, Toure, Song, Fabregas, Nasri, Van Persie, Gervinho, Adebayor

    Tough one….

  60. Nasri's Mouth

    on MNF, Gary Neville talking about Bellerin’s improvement over this season. Very impressed with him.

    Both Neville and Carragher ripped into Benteke.

  61. MarbleHall

    Wenger’s fault Arsenal are no longer a competitive force not the Stadium.

    Obvious Wenger inhibited Arsenal by not spending the money required to maintain our competitive edge over rival teams.

    Tell us something we don’t know.

  62. Insomnia

    Bacary

    Ospina
    Sagna Kozzer Toure MONREAL
    Song,
    Fabregas Cazorla Ozil
    Van Persie Adebayor

    Easy to forget how good Ade was before he left.

  63. divinesherlock

    Gambon I was talking about him when he was at Chelsea but you see again you evade my questions. The fact remains that Chelsea is still trophyless and we are not. We are playing catch up thats only because they have pumped in a billion dollars worth of oil money. But as usual Gambon I dont want to take away the right of you deluding yourself that Mourinho is great . Go ahead , and delude yourself over his park the bus tactic.

  64. Nasri's Mouth

    @bacaryisgod

    For the departed 11, do we go on their Arsenal form, or their 2014/15 form* ?

    *Guess for Vermaelen

  65. Blsany

    Fuck aidsbywhore.fucker cant get a club now. I hate him almost as much as i dislike brussel sprouts. He should have stood up couple years back on that bus carrying togo national team. coward

  66. Keyser

    Leedsgunner – It is soo easy to refute almost everything you’ve just posted, that I’m guessing you’re simply going to keep repeating it no matter how many times it’s picked apart.

    “and I would argue we were blocks ahead of the competition… ”

    You can try, but you’d be wrong, most of our money went into wages, when you’ve got a team that qualifies for the Champions League, you have to pay them Champions League wages.

    It’s like the argument that we only needed 1-2 players, we only supposedly needed that because of how well we’d utilised the money to begin with, as recently as 2011 we had the 5th highest wagebill and a team that cost a fraction of our competitors.

    How likely do you think it is that we’d find the one 30 million pound player that vastly exceeded expectation, when Citeh and Chelsea by 3 for every one of ours.

  67. MarbleHall

    It suited Wenger to sacrifice team affairs over financial affairs as the cunning frog could feather his own nest whilst at the same time maintain the myth he was beimg financial hamstrung by stadium debt.

  68. Northbanker

    These notions that if we’d spent more we’d be champions are really doubtful .Yes we would have challenged to a better extent but with Chelsea and Man City spending at their levels, no amount of additional cash (within our budget and assuming no sugar daddy) could have made it that likely. Reality was that those 2 clubs turned over all of the business models in football at precisely the wrong time for us.

    I think Wenger’s financial juggling will be more appreciated in years to come even though it was hugely frustrating for us. To buy £30m players when the debt was as high as that would have been doing a Ridsdale.

  69. GuNZ

    Hot off the TV NZ morning Breakfast news. Winston Reid will move to Spurs at the end of the season. It’s as good as a done deal apparently.

  70. tunnygriffboy

    2nd in form guide 1 point behind lpool. 15 points out of 18, they’ve got 16. Them and spurs have tough few fixtures coming up.

    Cuadrado. Saw him in WC, had a couple of good games but felt he a bit inconsistent. £30 million. Is he better than Sanchez, Ox or Theo ? Genuine question.

  71. Northbanker

    Seems to be a common theme that Schneiderlin will be a Gooner next year but I am not convinced. If Coq continues this form then Bielik will be developed as an understudy and I can see that no DM will be bought. If Coq starts looking average ot gets injured then yes I can see AW going for Schneiders.

    Otherwise the marquee signing will be Reus not Schneiderlin.

  72. Keyser

    Our form is misleading we’ve been playing 1 game a week for what seems like a month or so, there’s no Debuchy, Sanchez and Ox are injured, and people seem to have this completely flawed idea of our supposed change in tactics.

  73. Keyser

    Cuadrado’s more consistent than Schurlle and a better attacking outlet than Willian, not sure on his work-rate but he usually looks very energetic think he’s played as a wing-back before.

    It doesn’t really matter how he compares to our players, because they’ve got a far better template to work him into.

  74. MarbleHall

    Arsenal could of remained ahead of the pack and retained the title in 2005 if Wenger had invested £30-40m in the team. After all we were in a position of strength as Champions and it would have had an inpact on Chelsea’s season had they seen our intent but Wenger showed he was toothless and the rest is history.

  75. Nasri's Mouth

    @RSPC

    I think Ramsey’s coming back to his best. His positioning against Villa was better. Kept tighter to the midfield, which is what we needed given we had Ozil and Walcott coming back. Hard to guess his fitness because the game was over by 70 mins, but that should be back by now too.

    And yes, the Rix chant is a favourite of mine too, along with the one about schizophrenic keeper

    There’s only two Andy Gorams, two Andy Gorams…

  76. Nasri's Mouth

    Keyser: Our form is misleading we’ve been playing 1 game a week for what seems like a month or so,

    To an extent that’s true, but our form has had a big upsurge since the ManU game

    lost 2 and drawn 1 in 15

  77. Insomnia

    “Selling Overmars, Petit and Anelka”

    Replaced by Pires, Edu/Gilberto and Henry – hmm I wonder who is overreaching to prove a point…

  78. Nasri's Mouth

    Insomnia: Replaced by Pires, Edu/Gilberto and Henry – hmm I wonder who is overreaching to prove a point…

    Not to mention that those transfers were as much driven by the players as they were by Wenger

  79. Insomnia

    “Not to mention that those transfers were as much driven by the players as they were by Wenger”

    Typical NM nonsense – why cant you just write driven by a sublime humourlessness, a garrulous nature and the sweet joy of inaccurate hindsight that helps some others here

  80. Insomnia

    MarbleHallFebruary 2, 2015 20:31:06
    “He had them in mind when he depleted Arsenal by selling Overmars, Petit and Anelka. stupid moron”

    Eh ? that does not even make sense

  81. tunnygriffboy

    Leeds

    Chelsea invested hundreds of millions in their team over a few years. Even if we hadn’t built a stadium we couldn’t compete with that. Could we have down better. Probably yes but the gap would still have been enormous. I’m not one who’s bitter about this but I get a bit perplexed when some of our fans intimate that this huge disparity hasn’t had a bearing on differences in performances. Is it the only reason ? No but it sure is a fairly large chunk of it. Thankfully we now have more money than we’ve ever had and in my humble opinion we are starting to develop a strong squad that is finally able to challenge. Next summer will be another step in this direction.

  82. carts

    Rangers have just taken 4 Newcastle Utd players on loan. Now, I’m not sure if Scotland’s ruling is different to England’s re: Loan deals, but hmmmm…

  83. Keyser

    I think the Stoke and Southampton games told us as much as almost all of the other games combined.

    Like last season we score first we usually win, against Liverpool and Citeh we recorded our lowest possession stats since Opta Started to get the results we did.

    3-4 weeks ago our frontline was Sanchez – Welbeck – Ox, it’s now Ozil – Giroud – Walcott.

    Koscielny will be relied upon, unless we rotate, for 3 games a week and Bellerin and Chambers will be out through the most pressurised period of their careers, as well as probably Coquelin.

    I still think it’s a work in progress rather than some sort of encouraging period of form.

  84. Insomnia

    NM if that figure is accurate it is indeed a bargain and there is nothing like cheap Coq to cheer me up – oh hang on that came out wrong, hoist by my own double entendre

  85. carts

    From what I’ve seen of Cuadrado, my biggest criticism is his final ball and overdoing it in the skills dept: Beating the same player thrice

  86. gunnergetyou

    “Easy to forget how good Ade was before he left.”

    Imo that one off season he scored 30 goals was just a purple patch. It’s the only time he’s done that in his whole career. In fact he’s pretty much flopped everywhere else. Now even Spurs don’t want him there’s talk about him going to Qpr or Hull.

  87. Nasri's Mouth

    @insomnia

    Up from £10k to £40k apparently.

    No idea how accurate, but the fact they’re reporting it, adds support to Wenger’s ‘99% done’ quote.

    Hopeful.

  88. Insomnia

    NM

    You always wonder about Wenger when he’s in that mood – when he said 99% done what did he mean? My bet is that Coq demanded the club cede him all rights on his own “COQ” branded goods including:

    Suck my COQ mints
    Eat my COQ boil in a bag chickens

    Puntastic

  89. Wallace

    gambon

    “Wenger is outspending Jose, but Jose is getting further ahead of Wenger.”

    he’s outspent him 1 season out of the last 10. how does gambon get away with posting such guff?

  90. Romford Ozil Pele

    Been trying to wrangle my head around what Wenger will go for when all are fit. Was watching MNF with Carra and Gary and they don’t really know either. I guess it’s whether prioritises development time for the younger players or goes with the older heads like Santi. My guess is this:

    Ospina
    Debuchy Mert Kos Monreal
    Arteta/Coquelin
    Alexis Ramsey Wilshere/Santi Ozil
    L’Oreal

    I think that’s what it may be. Obvious questions marks over certain people in the side and possible positions we could upgrade on.

  91. Carts

    RP – I was thinking the same thing when I wrote of having a fully fit squad.

    Playing Arteta and Coq would be counterproductive – it simply isn’t necessary. Ramsey better get his mind as someone like Sissokho beside Coq could be tasty.

  92. Insomnia

    “how does gambon get away with posting such guff?”

    He doesn’t – its only him who believes his guffnosity…

  93. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    What will coq do?

    The last few months will put him in the eye of big teams?
    If big if but if cabaye leaves psg , could he go there?

    He will play hardball with wenger

    I reckon franny is the better poker player ….

    He owes wenger nothing ?

    Akpom will just walk I’m afraid,,,,

  94. Nasri's Mouth

    @Carts

    Like I say I’ve no idea how accurate it is.

    Given that he’s being given a new deal based on half a dozen performances, maybe it’s heavily incentivised.

    I was referencing it because it’s (a little) more evidence it’s happening, which is a good thing, only if we end up selling him for a profit

  95. Romford Ozil Pele

    Carts – the / indicates either or, not both. Ideally we get a Schneiderlin. Still sure Wenger will persist with Wilshere. Ideally something better than L’Oreal too

  96. Insomnia

    There’s really no end to Coq…puns

    Coq plays hardball with Wenger

    “Arteta must not play with Coq” says Phil Neville

    Flamini slams Coq on way out door

    Jack off thanks to Coq

  97. Nasri's Mouth

    When Wenger moved Coquelin from the wing to a more central position

    “Wenger puts Coq inside”

    Or when our captain is fit again

    “Wenger takes Coq out for Arteta”

  98. Insomnia

    Its hard to get past a Coq pun:

    “I cant play with Coq in my face” David Silva

    “I feel safe with Coq tucked in behind me” Ozil

    It’s terrible really I haven’t had so many crap puns in my head as when we were linked with Balotelli and his fiancee Fanny.

  99. Insomnia

    Apologies to serious posters – normal service will resume with no more puns soon…

    4-1-4-1 eh? I mean does it suit us really or is it just expedient?

    [Struggles against urge to pun]

  100. tunnygriffboy

    Asked a genuine question earlier. Saw Cuadrado only at WC. Had a couple of good games, rest was a bit meh !

    Genuinely, for £30 million how does he compare to Sanchez, Ox , and Theo ?

  101. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Tunny

    30m is par for vchelsea signings

    Cesc, hazard, Luis left back, William …

    If he don’t work out they will flog an not lose much !

    I agree schurle looked a good player. Saw him last season score a second half hat trick for them …

    Player is class .

  102. Nasri's Mouth

    Schurrle wasn’t the best skill wise, but he worked his socks off.

    Seems to have struggled to get over the WC though.

    Change might do him good

  103. Radio Raheem

    Sanchez = 1 bottle of chateau neuf du pape (CNDP)

    Mix 1 bottle of CNDP with 3 bottles of water and you get 4 Cuadrados

    Mathematically,

    X = 4Y

    Where X = Sanchez and Y = Cuadrado

    X = 3T

    Where T = Gervinho

    Hence,

    3T ≈ 4Y
    T ≈ 1.33Y

    Gervinho is 33% better than Cuadrado using RR theory.

  104. Thanos

    Coq and akpom will stay typical that when coq comes good his contract I’d running down. History repeating itself again. I feel they will both stay but will get bigger pay than if they had 18 mths left. Pis poor planning as usual

  105. Leedsgunner

    ” idont think AW was either a genius or an idiot over the stadium but I do think we got hit by the collapse of the financial market which as far as I recall removed/reduced the possibility of making a big dollop of cash in one go on property sales.”

    Very fair point, insomnia. We just won’t know how we would acted if the economic climate was different. Thank you for raising it because it sets the club’s position in context.

    Keyser thank you for your response although I wasn’t sure why you had to be so patronising about it. But hey if that makes feel better knock yourself out.

    The main point is if the past two summer transfer window proves anything perhaps a new leaf has been turned and Arsenal is back for the biggest players again. Better late than never!

  106. Highbury Daze

    making a a big dollop of cash on property sales, this is not a real estate company, that is the fundamental problem with this club now, this is a football club, well it’s supposed to be, these people have forgotten that, wenger would have acted the same way he has always acted. miserly, check the last 18 years, the stadium was used as an excuse not to spend, it gave Wenger the freedom to continue his scrooge like ways, we were told empathically, the stadium debt will not hamper or interfere with transfers, and all I fucking heard from every cunt is we were saddled with stadium debt

  107. Highbury Daze

    Wenger was bringing in players for nothing and next to nothing and selling them for profit years before the stadium was even thought of, he has been doing this at AFC for 18 years, where have you all been sleeping, so the miserly ways are ingrained in him this stadium debt is a fucking cop out, prior to 2006-7, what was the most this manager spent on any one player, his price has always been low, buy cheap sell high, 8-12 million quid was the price bracket Wenger worked in buying players, occasionally stepping out of his crease and spending 13-16m

    Go back to Anelka 500,000 sold 23m Overmars, around 7 million sold around 25m

    This is the AW model, make no excuses for this bean counter

  108. Highbury Daze

    The only reason Coquelin is still at AFC is two fold, with one leading to the other, he was on loan at 3 different clubs, if Arteta stays fit we don’t see Coq back at AFC, he was wearing number 34, that’s how highly they rate him now he might be wearing 28, still not thought very highly of

    He is 23 years old, 3 loans to different clubs, Wenger was wanting to move him on, what player at AFC goes on loan comes back and is a success, loan at AFC means one foot out the door

    Suddenly he is a revelation, against all the odds he is brought back due to Arteta going down and has been one of Arsenal’s best players, doing what wilshere flamini ramsey and anybody else you care to name can’t deliver a defensive game for 90 minutes, those other dolts all want to rush up and score goals Ramsey being the most guilty, leaving huge holes in the defence hoping slow CB to stem the tide, Ramsey looks the odd man out, had a good burst of scoring last season but is so off the pace I don’t know how or why Wenger picks him, I think he is trying to hard, he always wants to score, what the fuck is he, a attacker, a defensive player, what, a nomad wandering around the pitch looking lost

  109. Insomnia

    Sorry Daze that nobody was here to answer your witty and intelligent posts – but please note that Le Grove has very high standards and an attendant will get back to you regarding your posts.

  110. Insomnia

    Breaking news from Highbury:

    12.45am
    Would the owner of the red Volvo registration g193 dftr please move it as it is blocking the service entrance.

    12.47
    Thanks to Mr. Kallstrom for moving his car.

  111. Wallace

    Schurrle scored a lot of important goals for Chelsea over the last couple of years. not as good a footballer as Cuadrado, but i think they’ll miss him.

  112. Highbury Daze

    And there was me thinking the shit heel insomnia was the attendant when he hangs around the men’s latrine it was my only possible conclusion if I’m mistaken I apologise shit heel while your hanging around the car park go wash some cars until the real attendant comes along there’s a good boy