Lukas makes a case | Squad makes a case at perfect time

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Ahhhh man, so little to talk about this morning. Tings went good yah hear me?

We rotated heavily. We took the lead early. We made half time subs. We scored more goals.

That game was a bit like the Hull one last year. Forced change results in excellent result. I hope Wenger sees that he can trust players to come in and do a good job.

Whilst I see the limitations of Lukas compared to Alexis, he’s more than capable in front of goal and he offers fight and know how. He absolutely rasped his first strike into the near post… a total thunderbolt!

Aaron Ramsey, who drove the game with the Ox scored the second when he had no other option. The ball crept in at the back post perfectly.

The third goal was just pure outrage. The ball was cleared from a corner, it flew about 33 yards out, bounced where Ramsey was on hand to power it into the top corner. One of the most powerful strikes Paul Merson can remember seeing.

Coasting at half time we brought on Zelalem and Niles. We played the rest of the game out in a cautious and calm way. It was easy street. Fun times. 3 points that qualified us for the 15th time. A great achievement when you consider Liverpool and City will likely drop out.

Conclusion

Rotation, rest and trusting your squad works. Ok, so Gala weren’t the best, but they’re still a Champions League club that we tanked. We need to bring the squad into play more often. As if by magic, Jose has been talking up his policy…

“Terry, Willian and Hazard are on holidays. I’d like to give the whole squad time off because they’re always playing, but I have good alternatives for these positions’

“You know, we have too many matches to play in December. We are one of the few teams in the Premier League who also play in the Capital One Cup at this moment.

“So everybody has periods to rest, which we don’t have. This game gives me the chance to rest these three players. We have already the fifth yellow card to Diego Costa which gave him a rest, and to Matic which gave him one. Now Fabregas has one, which gives him a rest.

Jose, bro, you forgot to talk about the periods of rest your players get when you don’t let them go on international break… so much down time!

Anyway, point is, Arsenal don’t really utilise down time in the same way, hence the problems we have (combined with a host of other issues). I think the theory is pretty simple, the more rested your players are, the fresher they’ll be, the more energy they can give.

I mean, I know a lot more goes into it than that… but once you hit peak fitness, a few days off here and there isn’t going to destroy you… you know, if you avoid the cocaine, hookers and 24 hour drinking binges.

Ramsey looked back to his best last night. He drove the game, stood up and made himself count and his finishing was electric. More of that please Aaron. If we can get his goals from last year back and the sharp passing and power he offered, we’ll have a much more comfortable run in.

I said that Lukas should have started against Stoke to sneers from a lot of people. Well, I think he showed last night that he has a purpose and sneering at utilising your squad isn’t smart. If he’s not good enough, the smart thing would have been to flog him and bring in someone we can rotate in. He scored a spectacular near post first goal and his second one was a well timed run with a cool finish. Against Chelsea, maybe he’s not the man, against Hull or QPR, you should be bringing him into the fold because he’ll do a good job.

Joel Campbell didn’t pull up any trees, but again, I don’t see why we don’t’ give him game time. He’s hardly a rooky and we’ve seen what he can do at all levels. There’s talent there and there’s certainly more to his game than there is to Sanogo’s…

Big games are coming up. I think we can take maximum points from them all if we use our squad properly. Now Wenger has a win under his belt, the panic will subside and he’ll be calmer about his selections I think. The key to December is your squad, how you manage it and how you utilise the best approach for each game. If we have a good December, bring some of our best players back,  buy well in January… we’ll be on a run.

Arsene is talking about it being hard to buy in January, make no mistake, he’s bullshitting you this time. We’re looking at loads of player and we’re in talks with clubs NOW. So don’t have a panic that he’s dithering already. The only fear I’d have is if we’re smashing it by the end of the month, he’s that up and down with transfers he might decide he doesn’t need to deal in January… fingers crossed he’s strong armed into not changing his mind.

RIGHT. That’s me done. Have a marvellous day.

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  1. gambon

    gazzap

    I agree, Wenger wants players to pass it into the net, you can see that from the endless good shooting opportunities we pass up.

    However, like I say, great goal, but shooting from there is a pretty bad idea in general. A players conversion rate from 35 yards is insanely low, combine that with left foot and awkward height and it really is a no brainer.

  2. Romford Pele

    Shabz – yeah Manolas has turned out to be a really good player for Roma, cheap as chips too. Ah well, it is what it is. Hopefully we buy someone decent.

  3. Gunnershabz

    Romford

    that was a typical wenger signing cheap as chips and good value

    but its true i dont think he values defensive players espcially if the team commands a high transfer fee

    hence why i cant see us signing mats hummel for £30m

    attacking players its different

  4. Romford Pele

    Shabz – yeah it’s true. You get the feeling Wenger is happy to spend big on attackers but not defensive players. That’s why the Hummels rumours are a non-starter. And if you believe the hype around him, the only team he really wants to join is Barca.

  5. Goondawg

    Former Arsenal flop Gervinho has slammed Arsene Wenger for not having faith in him during his time in London.

    Now thriving in Italy with AS Roma, Gervinho spoke to The Sun ahead of his club’s crucial Champions League game against Manchester City tomorrow night.

    He didn’t hesitate to criticise his old boss and make him look incompetent in comparison to Roma boss Rudi Garcia: “Wenger never had faith in me.

    “Garcia does not differentiate between those who play and those who don’t. For a player that is important. He doesn’t speak more to you because you play and less with me because I don’t.

    “For him there aren’t only 11 players; there are 25 players. Everyone has the same level, gets treated the same and gets spoken to in the same way.”

    Although the Ivorian was frustrated during his spell in England, he insists he doesn’t bear any grudges toward Arsenal and holds the club close to his heart: “I dreamed of playing for them, I loved them since I was a child. I don’t detest Arsenal because of the way Wenger treated me.

    “My frustration is I quit Arsenal too soon. I left a club I loved without really showing how good I was. I am happy I went there and was able to work with Wenger. But I never thought I’d quit after just two seasons.”

  6. Le Prof

    Leeds
    ‘Arshavin was a demon when he got to play in that No.10 role, very suited to it. So of course he spent his days dogging it up and down the left wing.’

    At Zenit or for Russia he didnt have any real competition. He didn’t have Cesc playing no10.

    So Id say the decision to have him play out wide was vindicated. Cesc was our no10 and playing the best football of his career at the time.

    He didn’t help himself with not been overly fit and in general, a lazy fuck.

  7. Romford Pele

    “Nobody even mentioned Ramsey scored Dat Goal with his left foot”

    Yep. That’s what made it all the more impressive. Amazing what confidence can do for one…

  8. Carts

    Shabz- you could also add:

    Eboue – £2m
    Santos – £6m

    to that list. Wenger neglects the defensive side of our game time and time again.

    I know there are some anomolies like Kompany, Vidic and Cahill who were acquired for less than Kos, but considering Wenger track record with defenders you’d expect him to change his ways by now.

  9. Gunnershabz

    leeds and romford

    Manolas i am sure if we offered a better contract and promising future plans we could get him especially if we knew about Kos injury situation over the summer

  10. Romford Pele

    “It’s not confidence, it’s the haircut as Kwik said !”

    Haha, good point! He’s stopped trying to look like Beckham and gone back to just having it flat! It’s that Samson story all over again – the power of hair!

  11. gazzap

    The thing about shooting from distance. my view is that as long as it’s on target I am OK with it. I don’t think it’s a waste unless it goes wide or over. If the keeper saves then fine. I say this because you see a huge number of deflections or keepers that spill shots in the PL but rarely do you see Arsenal getting goals via that route and it has nothing to do with luck. it’s because wenger has put it in their heads not to shoot unless virtually certain of scoring.
    So my advice to players would be don’t just thrash at it – rather go for an accurate shot on target and see what happens.

  12. Jim Lahey

    “So Id say the decision to have him play out wide was vindicated. Cesc was our no10 and playing the best football of his career at the time.”

    Okay this is a serious question I am posing, did Cesc really ever play No.10 for us? I always remember him sitting beside another midfielder, be is Flamini, denilson or Song. with two stikers in front. I honestly can’t remember him starting week in week out behind a lone striker, he pressed high up the field sure, but I never thought of him as a No.10.

    I could be wrong. Just don’t remember it. I’m aware when he was at Barca he player behind the striker, but at Chelsea he certainly isn’t a number 10, I thought he played the same role at Arsenal as he is doing at Chelsea now.

  13. Gunnershabz

    carte

    yes i forgot those two, but you can see the list he is not really succesfull with defender

    Lauren was around £6m he was converted to right back

    van bronckhorst was around £6m but am sure we bought him as a midfielder

  14. WindyCityArse

    Criticizing Ramsey for having the audacity to take a shot from 35yrs – if you can’t enjoy that moment why bother unless you are a spud in disguise.

  15. Romford Pele

    “Okay this is a serious question I am posing, did Cesc really ever play No.10 for us?”

    100% mate. He started his career off with us as a pure B2B CM but when we moved away from 4-4-2 he was deployed number 10. The peak of its powers was when it looked like this:

    Song-Wilshere

    Walcott/Nasri – Cesc – Nasri/Arshavin

    RVP

    Arshavin was afforded a free role most of the time, he was only supposed to be on the left in the defensive phase. The main issue was that he struggled with the pace of the game. If i’m not mistaken we bought him at 28/29 so he was only gonna decline there. When you factor in that he was never the fittest of players to start with, you have your answer.

    Cesc does play number 10 at Chelsea but he kind of rotates with Oscar. Both take turns to sit deep next to Matic.

  16. Emiratesstroller

    Realistically I don’t see Arsenal buying more than one player in January transfer window. Originally Gazidis said that we had £20 million to spend, although there are suggestions that the Board may sanction more funds if required.

    What I am sure is that we are not going to spend more than £30 million this January and if that is the case we need to decide how it is to be spent.

    The question is do we go out and spend let’s say £20-25 million on a couple of
    average players who are okay squad additions or will we go out and buy one
    real quality player for £30 million who has a long term future in team i.e. is an
    improvement on what we have got.

    If we want a proven Centre Back I think that the options at moment are very
    limited. Most decent Centre Backs are with clubs still in Champions League
    so that they are probably reluctant to sell. Schar might be a possibility since
    he has not signed a new contract.

    Otherwise the options are very limited. Most of the names suggested are probably no better than we have got and will fetch inflated prices in January.

    My view is that if we cannot buy someone of the calibre of Schar we should bring in a filler at CB, but focus more on DMF where I do think that there are
    more decent players available at moment on the market.

    I do think that players like Khedira,Cabaye and Carvalho are buyable even if
    we have to pay an inflated price.

  17. Romford Pele

    “Criticizing Ramsey for having the audacity to take a shot from 35yrs – if you can’t enjoy that moment why bother unless you are a spud in disguise.”

    Yeah exactly. It’s not like he tries that 5/6 times a game.

  18. karim

    Jim

    10 is just a number imo
    Think of Zidane or Pirlo for example, playing far from the goal while being over influential for their teams

  19. Jim Lahey

    Can’t begrudge a player for trying what Ramsey did last night, thats if you are a player like Ramsey. It annoys the piss out of me when players you know aren’t capable of that sort of magic try it. I know you can’t do it, how don’t you!!

    But the one thing that really gets me is when on opposition player has the ball deep in their own half and is struggling to find a pass or is cornered and you’re shouting “just don’t foul him” but nope, the dumb hands come out, a little shove or a tug and the opposition player is now out of a tough situation, players can be so brain-dead at times.

  20. Jim Lahey

    @karim – I hear what you’re saying, but to be it is a position and a style of play, Denis Bergkamp is the obvious classic example, Cesc could find a pass like Dennis but wasn’t in the positions Dennis player, if that makes sense?

  21. Romford Pele

    “Can’t begrudge a player for trying what Ramsey did last night, thats if you are a player like Ramsey. ”

    Yeah exactly. The goal was absurd but you’ve seen Ramsey score a few worldies before (Sunderland, Norwich, Liverpool) so you don’t begrudge him shooting. You know he has the technique for it. It’s why Sanogo looked so shocked because he knows he doesn’t have the ability to do that. Probably trip over his own feet while trying to connect with it.

    “But the one thing that really gets me is when on opposition player has the ball deep in their own half and is struggling to find a pass or is cornered and you’re shouting “just don’t foul him” but nope, the dumb hands come out, a little shove or a tug and the opposition player is now out of a tough situation, players can be so brain-dead at times.”

    I get so irate with this. You’re thinking to yourself, “just jockey him, close the angle” but they have to raise their hands and give away a needless FK. Idiots. It’s why I always think back to what Xabi Alonso says. Managers like Pep prefer the art of jockeying and intercepting.

  22. Romford Pele

    “i would not mind if arsenal bought yoann cabaye is he an ideal replacement for arteta”

    I understand the logic behind this and Cabye is a very capable player. But we need what the likes of Arteta/Cabaye bring (passing from deep, dictating tempo) with more comabtive attributes (height/physical prowess etc).

  23. Jim Lahey

    @RP – Its so odd, I just can’t remember him playing in behind RVP!

    Song-Cesc

    Walcott– Arshavin – Nasri

    RVP

    Is what I would have liked, as you mentioned Arshavin’s legs were not the best when he arrived, so placing defensive duties on the wing to him doesn’t seem like the best tactical decision.

    Just back to Cesc, would have loved for him to be back in our current squad, competing with Ramsey beside a big DM. Or then RP as you suggested as a No.10 with Ramsey and a big DM behind him. Cazorla is my favourite Arsenal player, but we should have sold him to make room for Cesc….

  24. Romford Pele

    Jim, yeah it comes back to Wenger’s flawed logic about not having enough combative players within the team, always being too easy to catch on the counter.

    I think one of the best games we played with Cesc as a 10 was in the 2010/11 season when we beat Chelsea 3-1 at the Emirates (lol when did we last perform like that against a big team). It was a very Barca-esque performance that day, we just pressed them off the park and they couldn’t deal with our energy. Main thing which goes without saying that day is that we scored the first goal. We all know of our hindrances so to beat our big rivals, we always need to get in front first so we can then sit deep and play on the counter.

  25. Leedsgunner

    It easily said we have to score the first goal but even when we have we’ve looked shaky in defending the lead… Anderlecht is a stark reminder of that mi amigos. As much as I love Alexis and I am grateful to him for saving our season I just wonder if we would have done better in signed a £16m attacking player and making a DM our £30m world class signing this summer… just a thought.

  26. Romford Pele

    “It easily said we have to score the first goal but even when we have we’ve looked shaky in defending the lead”

    True. But i’m talking more when we have our firs choice defence available. With Debuchy and Kos there, that’d never happen. Also we conceded all three goals when Arteta went off injured. While he is by no means the answer, he has a semblance of how to control the tempo of a game. He would’ve slowed it right down and got us going again, major difference between him and Flamini.

  27. relieable sauce

    Jim

    For me a no 10 will always be a Bergkamp/Sheringham/Berbatov type, creator & scorer of goals. It seems to have changed name to the”9 1/2″ position now 442 is rarely used. Cesc is a CM playmaker IMO & dictates tempo & creates chances be it deep or further forward, just depends where the space is.
    I would say a traditional no 10 doesnt really dictate play though.
    Thats my take on it anyway.

  28. Romford Pele

    “I would say a traditional no 10 doesnt really dictate play though.”

    I agree, and he doesn’t necessarily have to… *resists getting into Ozil debate again*

  29. Leedsgunner

    Romford

    “While he is by no means the answer, he has a semblance of how to control the tempo of a game. He would’ve slowed it right down and got us going again,”

    Which is all the more baffling that we didn’t sign a commanding CB and a DM to add solidity in the back.

    I think this emphasis on attacking flair is a bit of a red herring and a “fault” (if you can call it that) of the Wenger era.

    Before Wenger Arsenal’s play was not often pretty to look at but you could depend on our defensive corps being solid and disciplined.

    Granted in his hey day Wenger gave us very attractive and pretty football, but without that defensive solidity I can do without it.

    To be honest because we are so porous in the back I have my heart in my mouth every time we surge forward because you can see the opposition players (especially in the top sides) just gearing up to hit us on the break back on the counter attack. It’s not very clever… and we’ve been made to look absolutely like amateurs defensively because of it.

  30. Jim Lahey

    @RS – I agree too! I feel its a very specialised position, and to play it you need a particular player. One with great vision and ability and someone who can read the game, know where players are and are going to be.

    Thats why its such a waste playing these players out wide, immediately their effectiveness is halved, same with vision and passing ability, they now only have 180 degrees in which they can pass a ball not 360.

  31. Romford Pele

    Yeah Leeds, it really depends on what type of footie you approve. Obviously I love attacking footie as much as the next person. I still maintain thar Barca ’11 is probably the best club side i’ve ever witnessed. But even they were good defensively. They’d play a high line but you’d rarely breach it because of their aggressive pressing. Busquets often fills in as a 3rd CB.

    I’m generally a much more pragmatic kind of guy though, I prefer my teams to be built from the back, and incidentally, that’s what Wenger’s initial team was. Had a stable back four from which to play from and we could evolve our style from there. For me it’s all about results. If you can play pretty football and win, great. If not, find the means, find the formula to win. I’m probably in a minority that liked the way we set up last season (bar the big games where we changed our approach and got smacked for it).

  32. Leedsgunner

    “Thats why its such a waste playing these players out wide, immediately their effectiveness is halved, same with vision and passing ability, they now only have 180 degrees in which they can pass a ball not 360.”

    Jim, great point I’ve been saying the same for months.

    It’s fear though that compels Wenger to play all his big name players at the same time.

    He thinks that’s the same as putting out your best side. He doesn’t seem to do his tactical homework on the opposition to see what tactics they play so we can counter it by playing a tactic that maximise our players strenths and exposes their weaknesses.

    To compound the problem because Wenger is so static and predicable tactically opposition players and managers know exactly what to expect, so they place measures to counter it.

    It’s as if Wenger thinks our reputation from yesteryear should be enough to win us the game… except he doesn’t realise no one really fears us anymore.

  33. gambon

    “Criticizing Ramsey for having the audacity to take a shot from 35yrs – if you can’t enjoy that moment why bother unless you are a spud in disguise.”

    Wheres the criticism?

    Im merely saying, if a team could play “perfect football” there would ALWAYS be a better option in that scenario than hitting a 35 yard shot with your weaker foot with the ball at an awkward height.

    Ramsey has tried spectacular left foot long rangers numerous times, and has scored maybe 2, once against England U21s and once yesterday (6 years apart)

  34. Emiratesstroller

    Romford Pele

    Our first line of defence + Arteta may be more than with other options, but even they have ben known to buckle when we play better or physical stronger teams.

    For example Mertesacker, Koscielny and Sagna played in most games last season.

    The real problem at Arsenal is the way we play and not necessarily the calibre
    of players at the club.

  35. Romford Pele

    Emirates, I never said it was perfect. I’ve been saying for a while that i’d find upgrades on Mert and Arteta but they are the best we have. This season Mert has been the only ever-present compared to last season. We’ve changed our RB, Kos has missed loads of games and both Gibbs/Monreal have suffered from injuries. This will no doubt impact anyone.

    But yeah of course our style of play is a hindrance, we let too many bodies fly forward. At times last season, Sagna would tuck in alongside Mert and Kos. We should really only have one FB attacking at any one time unless it’s very late in the game.

  36. Gunnershabz

    romford

    i know we need a powerful force in that midfield but looking at wenger’s history in last 8 years i cant see it happening

    Yoann Cabaye is similar to Arteta but he is an upgrade though for sure, very similar places but cabaye is more quick on his feet

    wenger likes his deep playing midfielders at the moment, hence why defense is out of the window

    William Carvalho is strong and powerful but am sure sporting want £30m for him

  37. Dissenter

    Ramsey has tried the 35 yard volleys several times this season, nine times out of ten, they’ve ended up hitting the flood lights or corner flag.

    Didn’t he try an 80 yard shot in the 92dn minute at West Brom when Ben Foster was stranded in our 18 yard box [after he came out to join a corner kick]. The better option there was to have passed to Oxlade who would have had a one-on-one against the Brom defender.

    I think that’s the point Wenger made about the goal.

    I’m celebrating his goal because it’s why we watch the game really. I am glad that this goal and the Stoke goal will give him confidence. He has that ability for the sublime and can transform our season.

    He looks better when he has space to run into, Alexis/Jack and Ozil have sucked out that place recently.

  38. Dissenter

    Emirates Stroller,
    “The real problem at Arsenal is the way we play and not necessarily the calibre
    of players at the club.”

    err, not exactly.
    a 34 year old Arteta has no business playing defensive midfield at Arsenal. A 28 year old Arteta might have made our bench deputizing for Cesc at attacking midfield.

    He belongs to the Hull city/Westbrom/Burnley relegation stragglers group now.
    The calibre of players does still matter.

  39. Romford Pele

    “Ramsey has tried the 35 yard volleys several times this season”

    Lol show examples or your just bullsh***ng. It’s like you’re just saying he stands 35 yards from goal waiting for the ball to come out of the air before striking it, what nonsense.

    “He looks better when he has space to run into, Alexis/Jack and Ozil have sucked out that place recently.”

    Alexis and Jack definitely because they’re ball hogs – not that it’s a bad thing when the right situation arrives. But Ozil is the complete opposite, he’ll pull people out of position to create spaces for the likes of Ramsey to run into. It’s why he’s so missed. Alexis has been praised a lot this season, rightly so, but i’d bet anyone £100 we’d have 5-10 more points had Ozil been fit.

  40. Romford Pele

    Shabz – I understand what you’re saying. That said, i’d still be surprised if we brought Cabaye in. Primarily because of his age and the wages he’s probably on at PSG. Not really worth it for a soon-to-be 29-year-old.

  41. gambon

    “Lol show examples or your just bullsh***ng. It’s like you’re just saying he stands 35 yards from goal waiting for the ball to come out of the air before striking it, what nonsense.”

    TBF “standing around outside the box waiting for the ball” is a pretty apt description of Ramsey this season.

    He has believed his own hype too much and basically stopped doing the basics completely.

    This time last season he was averaging 5 tackles per game, now its 1.9

  42. Carts

    “He looks better when he has space to run into, Alexis have sucked out that place recently”

    That’s exactly what I said when I realised that Ramsey was becoming less effective. Sanchez is occupying areas that Ramsey made his own last season.

    Sanchez is doing what he does better than anyone else out there. Ramsey needs to accept this and adapt his style.

  43. Romford Pele

    “He has believed his own hype too much and basically stopped doing the basics completely.”

    Possibly and I do agree to an extent. But how much of that is down to the upheaval that’s gone on around him? The whole team set-up has pretty much changed around him within six months. We’ve changed formation, the constants in the team from last season have been injured (Ozil, Giroud, Arteta), he isn’t required to get forward as much due to the abundance of pace now around him, we’re playing a much higher line and his starting position has been so high up. That’s not to excuse him because he hasn’t been great though I think there haveve been signs of improvement in recent weeks. Last night was probably the best it had been in a while. 3 chances, 3 tackles, 2 goals and an assist in 45 mins is pretty impressive going.

  44. Carts

    “Alexis has been praised a lot this season, rightly so, but i’d bet anyone £100 we’d have 5-10 more points had Ozil been fit.”

    No. Just no! I refuse to believe!

  45. gambon

    Think we’d be worse off with Ozil

    hes just a complete mess since his first 10 games or so.

    Theres no place for him at a top club unless he changes his mentality completely. Look at Madrid, got rid of him and have flourished, is that a coincidence?

  46. Romford Pele

    “Think we’d be worse off with Ozil”

    Despite the stats proving otherwise.

    “Look at Madrid, got rid of him and have flourished, is that a coincidence?”

    Lol they sold like 5/6 players but we’ll pick on the easy target.

  47. Romford Pele

    “Which, practically proves that Sanchez is the only one earning his cake..”

    Or, that while he’s a great individual, he isn’t really helping the collective to function as one.

  48. Emiratesstroller

    Carvalho would probably be the best option to buy in January on three counts.

    1. He can play both in DM and CB positions. He is also a physically strong player.
    2.His third party ownership has been resolved since the summer. The club now own him.
    3.Portuguese clubs need always money and every player has a price.

    The only issues for me is whether he is the right DM for us and can we afford him. If in affirmative then there would be less urgency to acquire an additional CB in January.

    Frankly £30 million + should be within Arsenal’s budget if that player will improve team. Carvalho is a young player so that paying a premium price should
    not be a deterrent.

    I would rather go for such a player than a player like Khedira or Cabaye who
    may be more technically gifted or offensive minded. At moment our priority
    has to be defence and not bringing in all the time players who meet Wenger’s
    vision of how we play.

  49. Carts

    “Or, that while he’s a great individual, he isn’t really helping the collective to function as one.”

    Oh come on man, leave that goal post where it is, bruh.

    Sanchez isn’t a #10; Nor is he Roy Keane. He was bought for 3 reasons: he was available, can score goals, and is the closest thing to world class that we’d ever see at Arsenal.

    If for one moment you’re going to scrutinise him to the point where you’re insinuating that he’s some kind of burden you’re loco.

  50. Thomas

    Romford Pele December 10, 2014 15:13:25

    “Sanchez is doing what he does better than anyone else out there.”

    Yet our points tally is much worse.

    __________________

    Without Sanchez we would be a pub team this season.

  51. Carts

    E-stroller – If we’re looking for someone that tick most boxes – athleticism, height, pace, distribution, strength – then Carvalho is our man.

    Yes, his buy-out clause is high, but that subject to change. We offer JC, who probably has a value of around £10m, and £15m cash. It really is that simple.

    I now I say this everytime, but I also Iturraspe…though his clause are just as high.

  52. gambon

    Romford

    I know its personal with Ozil for you, but he’s a loser.

    One of the most embarrassingly weak minded players ive ever seen. A complete nothing player.

    What does he actually do?

    Never scores, the assists dried up after 10 games, no physicality, no defensive cover, no desire to chase anything.

    Sure he creates some chances and gets the odd assist, but we couldve spent £10m on Eriksen or Dusan Tadic if thats what we wanted.

    Sanchez is performing according to his price tag, Aguero performs to his price tag, Costa is…..Ozil is performing like a £10m, £60k pw signing.

    Not a good purchase.

    All of this is purely based on his physical game, if you include his mental state, hes a championship player.

  53. goona

    Pub teams get stuck into the opposition

    Arsenal don’t, if the other team turns up for a scrap we just rollover. …team full of weaklings

  54. Romford Pele

    Carts, Where have I said Alexis isn’t WC? Where have I said he isn’t a great signing/player? I haven’t. He’s a fantastic player, and I couldn’t be more happy I get to watch him LIVE every other week.

    He’s the exact sort of footballer English football loves – individuality, pace, power, and hustle. His qualities are so obvious. It takes no analytical effort to appreciate the value of his performances; it is right there, in your face. He’s your archetypal ‘take games by the scruff of the neck’ kind of player. But that type of player might also be why the likes of England suck donkey balls at national level, because we want to channel everything through him, forgetting that football is a team sport.

    Scholes is one of the best midfielders England have ever produced, yet we stuck him on the left wing to accomodate the likes of footballers we like to see in this country (Lamps/Gerrard). Scholes is better than both. In La Masia, videos of Scholes are played to the young Scholars. Look at what the likes of Xavi/Zidane etc have said about him. Inter Milan offered Man United a blank cheque to sign Paul Scholes. But what are Scholes’ best qualities? Sure he could ping one in from 30 yards but Scholes was mastering tikki-takka before Barca took it to a new level. Yet England played him on the left wing…

    What’s my point? While I love Alexis and think he’s a great player, I think Ozil is better. Not because he’s a greater individual but because he’s able to elevate the performances of those around him, in essence making the team play better. For someone who is supposedly an anonymous player and does a lot of disappearing acts, it’s kind of funny how he was responsible for 20% of our created chances last season. Kind of funny how since 2009 he’s created more chances than any other player. Kind of funny that at his ‘disappointing’ World Cup, only the greatest player of the current generation created more chances for him. But yeah he’s a flop, massive waste of money.

  55. Emiratesstroller

    I wish people would stop criticising Ozil who was clearly not match fit at start
    of season AND by all accounts had off field problems, which often impact on how a footballer plays. He may need to be professional, but he is also human.

    The hard facts are that Ozil is a fantastic footballer. Even Ronaldo acknowledged this when he left RM. Ronaldo was exceedingly upset at the time as were many other players.

    Ozil offers what most other players in our team do not when he is playing and
    that is football intelligence and vision. Moreover he is an ‘unselfish player’
    and that is important, because you need a player who will distribute a ball if
    someone else is in better position.

    Messrs Ramsey, Wilshire, Ox and even Cazorla tend to be far more selfish and
    keep their heads down which is why we often lose the ball in midfield.

    The only criticisms I have of Ozil are that he does not perhaps score enough goals and he does not tackle. Those attributes are less important if satisfied
    elsewhere on field.

  56. Romford Pele

    “All of this is purely based on his physical game, if you include his mental state, hes a championship player.”

    Cool cool. This just renders the rest of your post void. Alexis came to Arsenal to play with a Championship player. Lol the logic.

  57. Romford Pele

    “no defensive cover, no desire to chase anything.”

    All these things are just myths tbh – I could show you clips which disprove this theory.

  58. N5

    gambon up until the Championship player bit you made sense, but that last bit made it look every much as personal with you as you suggested it is with Romford.

  59. tunnygriffboy

    Assuming Varanne out of the question. Schar is a good signing. He’s 3 years older than Chambers and hence more experienced. If we looking at 30 mill for Hummels it may be worth taking a peak at Laporte at Bilbao. Schar, Laporte and Chambers CB sorted for next 10 years

  60. Leedsgunner

    “Look at Madrid, got rid of him and have flourished, is that a coincidence?”Lol they sold like 5/6 players but we’ll pick on the easy target…

    By that same logic Di Maria is a cr*p player right?

    Whatever gambon….

    Your disdain for Özil is well known but even you have to admit he has been completely mishandled by Wenger. Hey, that’s ok though we don’t have to agree on everything! 😉

    If it was up to me I would play Özil/Cazorla together and use them together… having one player substitute for another or play them as a no.10 in alternate games.

    This experiment that Wenger has embarked on to shoehorn Wilshere in at the expense of shoving Özil on the wing has backfired massively. But hey Arsene knows right? (Until it goes wrong and then it’s bad luck. Arsene only knows when the going is good… )

    Sure one can blame Wenger for signing players who are not physically robust enough — and one would be justified in doing so. However, this is where we are at, it’s about using the players that we have in the best way — especially one that cost us over £42.5m! Surely you as a finance man understand this!

    Good to see you back… been living it large in Vegas again I presume? 🙂

  61. gambon

    ALexis has specifically addressed an issue that we had in the squad.

    Theo has been vital to Arsenal but hes such a limited player.

    Alexis is basically a big upgrade on Theo.

    he scores goals, much like Theo, but he does what Theo doesnt. He is involved in the game, he tracks back, he creates from deeper than Theo and hes much more versatile than Theo who looks lost if he comes off of the right hand side.

    So Alexis was exactly the kind of player we should have been buying

    Ozil on the other hand was a pointless luxury buy, and completely unplanned (Wenger panicked and needed to spend money cos the fans were rightly calling him a senile cunt)

    Ozil came in to play number 10 just 12 months after Cazorla came in to do exactly the same.

    Ozil is a worse goalscorer, no better creativity, much worse attitude. We spent £42m to double the number of weak, lacklustre number 10’s we have.

    Completely pointless.

    But not a surprise with Wenger.

    If you gave Wenger £200m he would buy 8 number 10’s then say “mental strength” every time this hugely flawed team lost.

  62. Carts

    RP – Aaaaaaand breathe! I will, under no circumstances accept responsibility for high blood pressure, stroke or heart attacks which anyone is posting on LG. I just won’t!

    I never said you said he wasn’t WC and a bad boy player. I’m trying to comprehend how a cynical argument can be draw between Sanchez’s array of goals and our lack of points. Quite frankly there is correlation. The honest truth is that we’re ‘top heavy’ if you will.

    This is what Quinn, Merson and Redknapp discussed and concluded. Yeah, it’s not a scientific break through of anykind, but that the be all and end of it.

    Like I always say: the disparity bewteen defence and attacking, quality wise, is insanely wide; coupled with that fact that we have a manager with no tactical or strategic foresite. That there is the sole reason why Sanchez has scored as many as Costa and Aguero yet were sniffing Utd’s batty-hole from 5 point back.

  63. Romford Pele

    “Alexis is basically a big upgrade on Theo.”

    Agreed.

    “Ozil came in to play number 10 just 12 months after Cazorla came in to do exactly the same”

    But yet Ozil creates more. Better points total since signing Ozil, won our first trophy in donkey years with him in the side – but oh, because he doesn’t take games by the scruff of the neck, he’s a luxury. A lacklustre number 10 who starts for club and country, is a World Cup winner. Voted into the PL team of the year. Created more chances than anyone at the World Cup bar Messi, included in the shortlist for FIFA World X1 midfielders. But he’s a luxury, can you imagine.

  64. london gunner

    I think Ozil is a player of undoubted quality.

    His a machine like assist maker, but in terms of elevating the whole teams performance?

    I just can’t see it! If anything I think his lack of fight and utter hopelessness in high pressure situations rubs off on the other players.

    Sanchez for me elevates other players performance (bar ramsey) With Sanchez Ox to me puts in greater performances as he has a positive role model to idolise admire and someone to help to emulate.

    As is Welbeck a better player with Sanchez on the pitch sure his not getting in the goals, but his providing assists and linking well with Sanchez guidance.

    For me personally Ozil was poor with jack, poor with cazorla and Ox (but good with ramsey)

    I think above all Sanchez’s high intensity, high pressure game/workrate is rubbing off on certain players. For instance Podolski was much more physical and had far more hustle on the pitch… I do believe that is Sanchez indirectly elevating a fellow Arsenal players performance.

    Ozil for me is a lethal sleep agent. His anonymous for most of the game till he spots an opportunity than he creates, but in terms of dictating play/tempo and elevating the game of others not a chance. His not proactive enough his not forceful enough on the pitch.

    Cesc for me is someone who elevates the peformance of his team mates, Costa,Oscar and Hazard have markedly improved with Cesc pulling the strings.
    He doesn’t just dictate the game physically, but mentally with his fighting spirit.

    On another note Cesc has a long range pass and the ability to create from deep (watch his long range in the air through balls to costa) whilst Ozil is pretty much only effective in the hole with short range passing.

  65. Romford Pele

    “I’m trying to comprehend how a cynical argument can be draw between Sanchez’s array of goals and our lack of points”

    Because football is a team game. People harp on about Alexis’ importance to the team. This is true to an extent but we had more points and were top without him at this stage last season.

    “The honest truth is that we’re ‘top heavy’ if you will.”

    Never disputed this.

    Sanchez has been afforded a lot more freedom at Arsenal than he was at Barca and is flourishing because of it. But we’ve pretty much completely changed our attack since last season, hence the teething problems. That’s why it’d be good to have some semblance of continuity in that regard.

  66. gambon

    Jim

    He creates no more than Cazorla, and scores less.

    So again i ask, why spend £42m on something we already had.

    Now, if he stepped up in big games, and made the difference at the highest level, I could agree, but Ozil is a flat track bully who does nothing against good teams.

    We basically threw £42m away. No different to going and spending £42m on a new stadium that seats £60k people.

  67. Carts

    Ozil is a good player. I’ve never once said he isn’t. Across the board, during his Arsenal tenure, the jury is still out, that’s for sure.

    I think Ozil’s problem is down to several factors: Poor management from Wengers, a lack of genuine quality in front of him (Ronaldo, Hig, Benz,) and physicality.

    His can create chances no doubt, but maybe the fact that we’re not particularly clinical looks worse on Ozil. Either way, I hope to see a massive improvement when he returns next month.

  68. Jim Lahey

    Cazorla

    12/13 – 38 games played, 95 chances created = 2.5 CPG
    13/14 – 31 games played, 66 chances created = 2.1 CPG
    14/15 – 14 games played, 29 chances created = 1.7 CPG

    Ozil

    12/13 – 32 games player, 91 chances created = 2.8 CPG
    13/14 – 26 games played, 76 chances created = 2.9 CPG
    14/15 – 6 games played, 14 chances created = 2.3 CPG

  69. Jim Lahey

    @Gambon – I will agree that he was an odd buy, and that Santi is more than capable of playing the No.10 role and doing it very well. I don’t think his price tag should be used to bash him though, he didn’t set it, the RM did. Ozil is fantastic at what he does and that is creating chances. He is up there with Silva (though not as good imo).

  70. gambon

    Jim

    So Cazorla created 2.3 per game, Ozil 2.8

    When you consider Cazorla mainly played Wide, Ozil had a free role, we paid £42m for a tiny bit extra (and a guy that falls apart in any kid of pressure situation)

  71. Leedsgunner

    As sad as this injury is hopefully this will give him the energy to last the entire season… with the battle for 4th even more ferocious we need Özil on top form (and hopefully played in his best position. Hopefully the chemistry that was evident at times between Welbeck and Özil will really take off.

  72. Carts

    “People harp on about Alexis’ importance to the team. This is true to an extent but we had more points and were top without him at this stage last season”

    But I’ve given you the exact reason why Sanchez looks bizarrely out of place. The fact we’re top heavy IS THE REASON WHY. There’s nothing else to really add to it. Now if we go back to the crux of the argument – how can you possibly conclude that we’d be 5-10 better off, with Ozil, when our defensive structure is just as shit. Ozil isn’t a DM or defender. He’s not famed for last minute interceptions either.

    If teams around us have improve their attack, yet we neglect our defence, what will the outcome be? Costa and Drogba are better than Torres and Eto’o, no? Their entire defensive unit hasn’t change much, bar Zouma and Felipe Luis, who rarely play but they’re just as effective. Add Cesc and Costa to the mixer and you can see why they’re top.

  73. tunnygriffboy

    Emirates

    Sad to say Carvalho having a poor season by all accounts , also he’s quite slow

    I’m with Romford about Ozil. He finds space , recycles the ball efficiently and has that eye for a killer pass. He’s had no time to play with Sanchez and Welbeck yet there were promising signs just before he got injured. Also him and Ramsey have a good understanding. If you look at youtube highlights of the pair of them last season it’s very noticeable that they dovetail brilliantly together. Can’t wait until he’s back.

  74. Romford Pele

    “His a machine like assist maker, but in terms of elevating the whole teams performance?”

    In terms of his selfless nature, yes. It’s why players always praise him and media rarely do. he’s never gonna be the type to get you off your feet ala Alexis though I sure do enjoy watching him because of his elegance.

    “I just can’t see it! If anything I think his lack of fight and utter hopelessness in high pressure situations rubs off on the other players.”

    Utter hopelessness? He took a shambolic pen against Bayern, other than that, i’m head scratching? A lot of this is media fabricated nonsense tbh. There’s a 22 min video I could show you where Ozil is creating chance after chance and players are ballooning it all over the gaff and people want to have a go at him because he doesn’t charge around at 100mph…. Is he the greatest defensively, probably not? But the notion that all our defensive liabilities fall on him beggars belief. We needed a DM before Ozil joined, we still need one now. Nothing has changed.

    “Sanchez for me elevates other players performance”

    Sanchez is great in terms of work-rate, but when it comes to helping the collective function better, definitely not. When it comes to facilitating fluidity and getting the team passing well, the likes of Ozil and Arteta are so understated in that regard.

    “As is Welbeck a better player with Sanchez on the pitch sure his not getting in the goals, but his providing assists and linking well with Sanchez guidance.”

    The two times Ozil has played behind Welbz this season, Welbz has netted.

    “I think above all Sanchez’s high intensity, high pressure game/workrate is rubbing off on certain players.”

    All it’s really done is led him into the red zone and our points tally has been nowhere near last season. His endeavour and willingness to win possession back is great, but when he’s alone in trying to facilitate the press, it’s pretty pointless. He actually needs to learn to conserve energy better.

    “but in terms of dictating play/tempo and elevating the game of others not a chance. His not proactive enough his not forceful enough on the pitch.”

    Ozil has never been someone to dictate the flow of a game – people who have watched him his whole career will know this. It’s why I always find the comparisons with Cesc laughable tbh. While they’re essentially playmakers, the way they interpret their roles are so, so different. He’s not forceful enough? Why, because he doesn’t charge about like Alexis? I couldn’t give two hoots tbh. Last season he created 20% of our chances – for someone who is supposedly ‘anonymous’ and ‘invisible’, it doesn’t really add up.

    “Cesc for me is someone who elevates the peformance of his team mates, Costa,Oscar and Hazard have markedly improved with Cesc pulling the strings.”

    Mate, Oscar and Hazard were balling before Cesc arrived. They finished 4 points off the top last season. What they needed was a top level striker which they attained. Cesc happened to be on the market and they made a great decision to move for him too.

    “On another note Cesc has a long range pass and the ability to create from deep (watch his long range in the air through balls to costa) whilst Ozil is pretty much only effective in the hole with short range passing.”

    Like I say, they’re completely different players. Cesc does great stuff deep, but in the final third when i’m looking for someone to execute the final ball, i’ll always take Mesut.

  75. Jim Lahey

    @Gambon – What I think that really shows regarding Cazorla’s stats is that is more effective as a No.10 than out wide.

    There isn’t a big difference at all between them creatively, how old is Cazorla now though? 29, 30? Ozil will take over and should play that No.10 position for the next 5 or 6 years.

    But I won’t deny it was an odd buy, but I am happy with it.

  76. Romford Pele

    “Now if we go back to the crux of the argument – how can you possibly conclude that we’d be 5-10 better off, with Ozil, when our defensive structure is just as shit. Ozil isn’t a DM or defender. He’s not famed for last minute interceptions either.”

    Last season we played a much deeper line. In terms of final third decisions, I would have nobody above Ozil. We had a much better defensive record last season in spite of our hammerings.

  77. gambon

    “Utter hopelessness? He took a shambolic pen against Bayern, other than that, i’m head scratching? A lot of this is media fabricated nonsense tbh. There’s a 22 min video I could show you where Ozil is creating chance after chance ”

    What about a 22 minute video whwere he utterly embarrasses himself by giving Liverpool the ball every time they wanted it at Anfield?

    Or a 22 minute video of him standing around doing nothing in the FA Cup Final, our biggest game of the season.

  78. gambon

    “Ozil has never been someone to dictate the flow of a game ”

    then he has no position in our team in the middle.

    And we know he’s no winger.

    therefore put him on the transfer list.

  79. london gunner

    RP

    IMHO Ozil should be given more time and people writing him off are way premature.

    His the best pure assister (made up word) In world football.

    But I am different I care more about end results than ineffectiveness mazy runs and players taking to many chances (cazorla) (jack).

    As long as Ozil is putting the ball on a plate for our forwards I am happy and can forgive the lack of defensive/all round abilities and over 90 minutes game impact.

    We have different opinions on Ozil because I see him more as purely a sniper. But a sniper needs a tower/vantage point to shoot from with Ozil he needs to be played in the hole not as a winger or we might as well sell him.

    My main issue with Ozil is that in terms of chance creation he seems poor against the big teams (now if I am wrong on this please prove so otherwise, as I want to be wrong on this one)

  80. tunnygriffboy

    Last season Ozil played most of the season with Giroud, Santi, Ramsey, Wilshere ahead of him. Injuries prevented him from Walcott and Ox and Podolski up until Christmas. He had no pace or running in behind. This season he has Alexis, Ox and Welbeck to play with , Walcott is yet to return. Guess what, Ozil gets crocked himself.

  81. london gunner

    N5

    I really don’t care for this.

    I don’t come on this blog to converse with you its about the football for me not bitching. So I suggest we ignore each other.

  82. N5

    London, I didn’t even address you, you took my comment the wrong way.

    The funny thing is, I have no issue with you at all. I thought your comment to Bamford was out of line and up until then, even when I disagreed with you, I was never rude to you. All I asked was for you to apologise to him, to which you made some personal attacks on me.

    I don’t want to argue with you and have always found you quite a funny little bugger. I just think the comments to Bamford were to much and I would have said the same to him, if it was the other way around.

  83. Romford Pele

    “Or a 22 minute video of him standing around doing nothing in the FA Cup Final, our biggest game of the season.”

    Unless someone gives an assist/goal, they’ve done nothing. Tbh he created enough chances in that game, some just don”t know where the net is.

    “then he has no position in our team in the middle.”

    Tbh he averages more touches of the ball per game at Arsenal than he did at Madrid. I feel like Wenger is trying to change him, not that I really think it’s a good idea. Also, if you have players who can instigate attacks from deep, it kind of minimises the amount you need your no.10 dictating.

  84. Jim Lahey

    My one criticism of Ozil is that he doesn’t score enough, a player of his ability should be getting 10-15 goals a season. That finish against Napoli shows us he has the technique maybe just has a bit of Hleb syndrome.

  85. Romford Pele

    “My main issue with Ozil is that in terms of chance creation he seems poor against the big teams (now if I am wrong on this please prove so otherwise, as I want to be wrong on this one)”

    Big games are built on fine margins, mate. And this is where our inherent weaknesses come into play. Our lack of a DM, mobile CB has nothing to do with Ozil. Like I say he creates chances, a lot of them at that, but we rarely ever score first in big games. And when we concede first we then have to open ourselves up and that’s when we become even more vulnerable.

    When you have time, watch this and you’ll see what i’m talking about. It’s 22 mins though so get some tea/coffee ready: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUiwTMG4BqQ

  86. Dissenter

    Romford,
    You are on a roll this morning.

    I have a sincere question for you.
    Would you renew Theo’s contract so soon after a major surgery given that :
    Oxlade is really developing into a better player and Sanchez is like Theo Mach-2.

    For balance in our team, do we really need Theo?

    Not trying to start a punch-up, its just that I heard we were trying to renew his contract early to avoid last minute rushes.

  87. Dissenter

    gambon is asking the difficult questions about Ozil.

    Ozil has responsibility to do a lot more than just “create goal chances”. He needs to help with doing the basics, like defending from the front, tackling and committing professional fouls when he loses the ball.

    Wenger is right about the fact that a modern player has to be able to do more than just one thing.

    Its always hard to constructively criticize Ozil without emotional blow-back. He needs to adapt his game to the premier league.

  88. london gunner

    N5

    Ok, Once again with the false nice guy act.

    You were consistently rude to me before the Bamford comment calling me arrogant/egotistical

    Your just highlighting the bamford comment not because you genuinely care about his feelings, but because you obsessed with being the police man and getting involved in other peoples business that’s why your so fake.

    Your the gossiper in the office/shit stirrer. I have literally zero interest in a back and forth with you because every comment I have with someone else you will copy and paste and add to your little archive to manipulate and use against posters who don’t play along with your little social clubs rules.

    So lets just leave it here.

  89. tunnygriffboy

    LG
    It’s fair to say that Ozil didn’affect the big games away from home last season. To be fair did anyone ? In most of those games he had Giroud up top with Santi, Wilshere, Ramsey and Rosicky playing wide because of our injuries. All last season we were looking forward to playing with Walcott. It never happened and even Ox missed huge swathes of the season. Add to that no strong DM to give him a base and a group of players that are too nice and you can see the problems. We need a few nasty pieces of work to look after the likes of Ozil and Sanchez ( think if someone clobbered Johnny Wilkinson in egg chasing. Would Dallaglio allow this to happen? ) We need a bit of steel to work alongside our more skillful players so that teams don’t bully us.

  90. Romford Pele

    “Would you renew Theo’s contract so soon after a major surgery given that :
    Oxlade is really developing into a better player and Sanchez is like Theo Mach-2.”

    I would, mate, but it would be on the same terms. Last time Theo held all the cards and we were kind of roped into given him what he wanted, especially when you factor in the previous departures. I don’t think the club will let him hold them to ransom like he did last time.

    Theo for a long time was the only proper pacy player in our set-up. We have Alexis who is better, Ox who I think is more complete and will displace him fully when he adds more goals, Gnabry, JC, so the need for Theo isn’t what it was. Theo is limited but what he can produce is fantastic. Personally I feel we’ve outgrown him and can’t see any other top team pandering to him. Incidentally, the team I feel he’s perfectly-made for is Liverpool. He is a boyhood Liverpool fan and they’re the only ones I can see paying him what he wants.

  91. Emiratesstroller

    Football is a ‘team game’ and it needs different qualities if you want to be successful.

    One of the weaknesses of our team in recent years has been that we played with too many lightweight players, because Wenger tried to replicate what Barcelona were doing.

    Ozil is not that type of player. Last season he had some decent games, but the
    reason that he was not effective then was there was absolutely no pace in team
    because Walcott and Ox were out injured for most of the season and Giroud as
    everyone knows was the only striker available, but not the type of player who
    is going to run onto a perfect through pass as Ozil would do with the likes of
    Ronaldo, Di Maria and Benzema in the team.

    This season he came back after a few weeks break AND at a time when he had split from his girlfriend and also there was friction between him and his father
    who is now apparently suing him.

    With all that going on it is hardly surprising that he did not play well. Let’s
    judge him when he returns fully refreshed and has far better options with whom to play.

    Sanchez has bedded in very well, Ramsey is playing better than he did when
    Ozil got injured and with Welbeck, Ox and hopefully Walcott coming back from injury we will have more pace in the team.

    It is highly unlikely that Ozil will be playing again on the flank as he was doing at start of season, because we have now more options there.

    If Ozil comes in he will play in middle of park as a playmaker and I think that
    he will show that he is a much better player there.

  92. N5

    Nope London we wont just leave it here, you don’t decide when I stop posting.

    Its not a false nice guy act. I am who I am, it’s up to you what you think, but what would be the point.

    You’re right, before the Bamford thing I did start changing my opinion on you, but I must admit I forgot that when typing my comment. It was all the “I told you so” that got on my nerves. You are egotistical and you’d be insane to think any different, and that’s fine, that’s who you are.

    I’m not interested in being your friend London, I’m not even interested in talking to you full stop, but I wasn’t lying when I said you used to make me laugh, the night you put Robben as your avy cracked me up, I thought it was hilarious.

    But you go ahead and think what you want of me and my personal life, I’m not sure why it worries you, if I enjoy always being on Le Grove then that shouldn’t bother you.

  93. MidwestGun

    I think Romford’s original point that Alexis hinders Ramsey’s game and Ozil helps Ramsey’s game is valid, and therefore with a firing on all cylinders Ramsey we were better last season.
    Obviously, we need Alexis and Ramsey to figure out how to play together as well as Ozil when he comes back. Because Alexis is one of about 2 players who can finish chances consistently.
    AW obviously, imo, is not the manager to do that. Not everyone can play up the center of the pitch at the same time.. However, AW hasn’t really worked this out. That along with ignoring our defensive frailities is why we are what we are, midtable.

    Other than that. The Ozil debate, again. Ugh!

    Pedro –
    Nice picture of Rambo’s goal. Enjoyed that!

  94. Jeff

    My contention is that we’ll never really know the true value or potential of our better players whilst Wenger is still in charge. Once he goes and the “go out there and enjoy yourself” is replace with proper instructions on positioning, tactics and formations, we will come to know what’s what then – not before.

    I’m pretty sure we could get Messi to play in the Arsenal team and in no time he’ll start firing blanks as well in various games and against various oppositions that do not play to our “liking”.

  95. Romford Pele

    Joel Campbell is confident that he is improving despite a lack of first-team football at Arsenal.

    The Costa Rica international made a rare start as the north London side were 4-1 winners against Galatasaray in the Champions League on Tuesday night.

    Campbell failed to open his goal-scoring account for the season as Lukas Podolski and Aaron Ramsey both scored twice against Gala in Istanbul.

    The 22-year-old has been linked with a potential loan move in January, but Campbell is adamant that he is happy at The Emirates.

    “[It] was a chance for those who haven’t played much, like me,” Campbell said.

    “I think we made the most of it in the best way by winning in such a difficult scenario.”

    Campbell added: “I’m confident that I’m developing as a player. I will work step by step and wait for my chance.

    “I am happy here. I’m learning every day and hopefully my chance will come.”

    Fair play to the lad – he really does seem to want to make it work at Arsenal.

  96. Romford Pele

    Roma vs City will be a quality encounter. Atmosphere should be great too. The Olimpico is raucous on occasions like this.

  97. salparadisenyc

    I think its fair to say we judge Ozil in May. “Two” seasons in the league is enough for me, no doubt the second will be stunted considerably from injury but I think it will be a long enough period to form fair judgement. I’m undecided as to his worth, one things for certain barring a few off moments were a better side with him in the middle. Wenger ran that dude into the ground last season feeding fatty chance after chance up front. Were yet to see a proper formations with Welbeck, Sanchez and Ozil.

    If Fenger reverts to that rigid 4-1-4-1 with a full compliment of players, Ozil out wide unfurrow the banner now.

  98. Le Prof

    N5 and LG

    ‘The funny thing is, I have no issue with you at all. I thought your comment to Bamford was out of line and up until then, even when I disagreed with you, I was never rude to you. All I asked was for you to apologise to him, to which you made some personal attacks on me.’

    What a couple of fannies

  99. Romford Pele

    “Who’s your favourite to go through with Bayern RP?”

    I’d say just Man City, mate. Roma buggered it up big time when they should’ve wrapped it up on Matchday 5. City have Kompany and Silva back tonight though Aguero is naturally a huge miss. Roma were the better team at the Etihad but City if they’re on the their game can be train-like. It’s tough to call and could go either way. Naturally I have a soft spot for Roma and would love for them to go through. That said, City winning is good for the English co-efficients, and we need that after Liverpool’s shambolic showing.

  100. Radio Raheem

    “If you gave Wenger £200m he would buy 8 number 10′s then say “mental strength” every time this hugely flawed team lost.”
    ———

    Haha

    I like Ozil but I’ve got to say gambon’s got a point.

    Whenever people point to Ozil needing players like Ronaldo, Benzema etc. to shine, this is a slight against him. It makes him look limited in some way in that he can only prosper in 2 or 3 clubs in world football. So he’s the right type of player at the wrong time or the wrong type of player at the right time?
    So, in effect, he’s a misfit.

    We may have fewer points now with Sanchez than we did at this time last season but it’ll be too simplistic to use that against Sanchez’ contribution to the side. Firstly, I don’t think we suffered as many injuries to key players at the back this time last season as we have now. Secondly, until his last two matches, Ramsey’s form this season has been average to poor compared to last season….then there’s Wenger’s favourite excuse – the World Cup 😉

  101. Dissenter

    We are going to need a monstrous defensive midfielder to make a team with Ramsey, Ozil and Sanchez work.
    There’s no balance in this combination without a proper DM.
    There will be gaping holes in the middle of the midfield.
    Please don’t mention Arteta.

  102. tunnygriffboy

    I’d like top keep Walcott. I thought he’d improved a lot in the year before his injury. Agree now that the club has more cards to deal with this time. I just want to see him fit and on the field again proving that his form pre injury has returned. Apparently his contract is difficult as he is the most marketable playerwe have.

  103. Romford Pele

    What’s so marketable about Theo? Decent looking, middle class, well-spoken English lad with rapid pace… Is that enough to make him a poster boy type?

  104. Emiratesstroller

    For clarification Ozil fell out with his father at about the time his performance on the field declined at end of last year. His father was sacked from management company and then apparently sued his son around the start of this season. That litigation has now been apparently resolved.

    I am pretty sure that the break up with his girlfriend plus what was going on with his father will be factors as to why Ozil was playing poorly this summer and at start of season.

    Let’s judge how he plays when he returns in New Year. I suspect that providing
    that there is no baggage outside football he will play much better.

  105. N5

    Romford, I never want any other English club to go through, If it’s not Arsenal I just don’t care, bad I know.

    I’ll be cheering on Roma.

  106. Le Prof

    Jeff

    ‘I’m pretty sure we could get Messi to play in the Arsenal team and in no time he’ll start firing blanks’

    Like you Jeff no doubt. But thanks for sharing.

  107. Le Prof

    Romford

    ‘What’s so marketable about Theo? Decent looking, middle class, well-spoken English lad with rapid pace… Is that enough to make him a poster boy type?’

    It works for Hamilton.

  108. Romford Pele

    RR, It’s not so much Ozil needing those specific individuals – it was more him needing mobile players around him. It all got a bit too samey last season. Ramsey was the only one running in behind/off the back of L’Oreal. It’s not like the dude wasn’t efficient/functional, 7 goals and 14 assists is decent while not spectacular. But to get more out of him, just think back to his debut when he put a hattrick of chances for Theo on a plate in the first half alone. You wanna accentuate his strengths right… So get people round him who can make this happen.

  109. salparadisenyc

    Dissenter agreed.

    Song filled the gap but he wasn’t the player we really needed nor is Arteta or Flamini. Wenger’s reticence on procuring a physically able holding mid is a Novella with names like Xavi Alonso, Yann Mvila, Javi Martinez, Lars Bender and last summers Sami K.. christ it goes further back than that.

    Ideal christmas gift for every gooner, a duplicate of Matic.

  110. Dissenter

    Damn,
    I’ll sell Theo to Liverpool for 30-40 million.
    I’ll use the money to buy Kondogbia and Schneidelrin.

    Problem solved.
    We have too many of players with the same attributes.