Ozil wants out / Does Wenger regret Cesc pass up now?

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All the news this morning centres around an article in the Daily Mail that has Mesut Ozil down as unhappy and Arsenal down as happy for him to leave in January.

Do what?

I mean, I know he looks unhappy, but sheesh, surely we’re not giving up on him now? I mean, we’ve just passed on Cesc… the best creative number 10 on the planet. There’s surely no way 2 months later we’ve decided that Ozil is superfluous? Wenger said the below yesterday…

“I don’t regret not taking Cesc because we already had a lot of creative players in our midfield,”

I have no idea where the news has come from. It makes a very strong point that he doesn’t like playing out on the left, which indicates it might be an agent plant to get him more of that number 10 action. Who knows?

It does raise a valid point about Wenger. He doesn’t buy players that fit his system. What is the point in spending ยฃ43m on a number 10 Jose called the worlds best, then carting him out wide. He has almost zero of the attributes you’d want from a man you’re playing on the left and the clearest part is he has no interest in being there. Basic psychology again. Think of it from Ozil’s perspective, he’s moved from Madrid to Arsenal to be the hero. The player all the football is centred around. He lands here, he’s run into the ground (never used to play more than 60mins in a slower league) and now he has to suffer the indignation of being played in a role he’s not particularly good at.

Of course he’ll be unhappy. He’s too good to accept that at Arsenal. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I think his attitude looks off. But he’s a different breed of player. He’s not grateful to Arsene for anything. He’s played under better managers at better clubs. He’s still really young, he still has big clubs interested in him. For me, we should be doing everything we can to get the most out of him, because ultimately, there aren’t many better than him when he’s on fire.

Selling him in January would be crazy unless we had a replacement. The most alarming thing is Guardiola wants him. He’ll have a plan and you can bet your bottom dollar he’ll have a more effective way of utilising the German.

There are some some quotes floating around about Arsene saying we’re still short of a striker and a DM. At least he acknowledges it. It’s ridiculous that he’s unable to actually make a dent in those areas when the window is open. Still, with it on record that the scouting network is broken, it’s not a surprise. I have to say though, I won’t be getting excited about us rectifying these issues in January. Wenger always seems to have 20/20 vision after a transfer window has shut. Just a shame he’s blind when it’s open. Our defensive offering at the moment is farcical.

Still, it is what it is. Home game against a pretty good Hull side on Saturday will be interesting. Hopefully the boys at home have been left in incubators all week.

I read an article yesterday that spoke of the ‘Twitter conspiracy theorists’ when it came to injuries. Brilliant bit of counter PR from Arsenal in an article that offered almost zero to the conversation we haven’t been speaking about for at least 5 years. Clouding incompetence as ‘a complex issue’ is a classic Arsenal stalling tactic. Remember the ‘buying ย a player isn’t as simple as buying a loaf of hovis’ line they ran with back in the day? Fixing our injury issues is about correcting the structure, putting the right talent in place, making communication lines clear and taking the data and insights offered up and using it to improve our everything we do. Put that in place, then you make people accountable. If something fails, it’s easy to spot where it’s failed. Then you can ask the right questions.

Large parts of our sports media aren’t interested in probing for the truth… which is why so many of the foreign media are held in such high esteem over here. Those guys get it, they give you more, they challenge your preconceptions. Such a shame that kind of journalism isn’t lauded over here.

In other news, Roy Hodgson has moved to play down a Danny Welbeck ankle role last night against Estonia. Good job too. We need him not to be injured. I thought Hodgson’s behaviour when talking about Sterling was absolutely disgraceful. Now the whole nation thinks he’s a wimp. That’s a teenage boy he’s just thrown under the bus for being honest about his fitness and form. A man under pressure. A man who should be under pressure because he’s useless.

Right, that’s me done. Have a good one!

354 Responses to “Ozil wants out / Does Wenger regret Cesc pass up now?”

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  1. Jeff

    So now we are being asked to accept that playing Ozil out wide is the right thing to do. Even if it doesn’t work. Even if we can’t win.

    Keyser’s argument is that everything is as it is for a valid reason and any other way with what is available would bring similar or worse results. Well that’s it then. Everything is alright. Wenger knows. We’ve got nothing to worry about. Hooray. Thank you so much – that’s such a relief. ๐Ÿ˜†

  2. london gunner


    Lol we have similar tastes I have seen all of those series’s you mentioned ๐Ÿ™‚


    Seen walking dead and house of cards! You are right that show is incredible.

    I have not seen the killing or suits will check those out!

  3. WengerEagle


    Did you watch Big Benz the other night? Such a slick player, Varane had it spot on when he described him as basically a no. 9.5.

    I like Danny but have to admit how I wish Benz was our CF. ๐Ÿ™

  4. MidwestGun

    Keyser –
    Your crowding an area which doesn’t need crowding and requiring Flamini and Arteta to cover more area and requiring one of the Cm’s to drop back when the other goes forward. It’s dividing the roles needlessly In order to play Ramsey and JW. And essentially your making Ramsey or JW the cam. It also changes our midfield patterns. Bad decision to change.

  5. Thank you and goodnight


    At the end of the day mate Pedro is a fan like the rest of us and maybe like a few of us he’s just flat these days. It’s hard to keep a miniscule amount of positivity when year on year the same fuck ups keep happening.

  6. Romford Pele

    Eagle, Big Benz is what it is really, such a great striker, gets nowhere near the credit because of who flanks him. Would love for him to lead the line at AFC. Mad to think how long he’s already been at Madrid for. Literally the ideal striker for me. If we had him and Ozil, it’d be a wrap >>>

  7. Joe


    Check out cokeandpopcorn.ch to get free streaming of all shows. It’s great.

    It basically has all the new episodes a day after they air.

    A bit tricky to figure out at first but usually great.

  8. WengerEagle

    London Gunner

    Shit haha I’ve watched all of the shows that you have listed as well besides Games Of Thrones (Was wary of jumping aboard the bandwagon but I’ll watch it eventually) and Orphan Black(Is this good?).

    The Corner is excellent, David Simon did it before The Wire so if you haven’t seen it give it a look.

  9. Keyser

    Midwest – You’re adding weight to an area as you blood 2 new defensive players, and have to work in other attackers.

    You’re basically playing someone who can retain the ball to the left as opposed to a winger or a more direct offensive player, it does crowd the middle it’s supposed to, so you’re harder to play through.

    What’s hard to understand there, you don’t want to play Wilshere, but you think playing more attacking players will provide better defensive solidity.

    Like I said ‘1’ on a chalkboard, and you can’t escape it.

  10. Cesc Appeal


    It’s a point a few of us were discussing the other day.

    The fact that Arsenal’s failings are the same very year with Wenger at the helm means the debates become stale because we’ve all been here before, we will be again, so to keep dragging it up and hearing the same defences from the same posters becomes tiresome and predictable.

    You could probably do some collage of Le Grove articles over a season and find a pattern over the last decade that just keeps repeating itself. Having to talk about losing to the big teams, poor tactics, obvious holes in the squad, injuries year after year after year must get boring

  11. MidwestGun

    London –
    You were a little more confrontational as Hackney maybe you’ve just mellowed with age. Lol. You can only talk about Ozil or AW in so many ways.
    I think maybe when you were newer the arguements were fresher, like anything familiarity breeds boredom.

  12. WengerEagle


    Agree I just don’t understand all of the criticism that Benzema gets.

    No other striker in world football could do what he does for Real Madrid and bring the best out of Ronaldo and Bale like he does. He averages 40 goals a season in terms of contribution (goals/assists) and rarely gets injured.

    So easy on the eye as well, his ability on the ball is far better than most of the other top strikers around Europe, the likes of Cavani/Falcao and even Lewandowski although to be fair he isn’t as good a finisher as these 3 are.

    Yeah him and Ozil would be brilliant, nab Isco as well as a replacement for Santi on the left and we’d have a phenomenal frontline.


  13. Dissenter

    I’ll like to read a pro-Wenger post by a frequent contributor on this blog.
    I nominate Keyser to write a guest post.

    Pedro just has to give us advance notice so that I can use my Garmin navigator to steer through the multi-layered convoluted arguments. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  14. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Choose three matches… Say three out of the big 5 .. Or choose your own.

    Arsenal win 2-0, 2-1
    Liverpool win 2-0,2-1
    Chelsea win 2-0,2-1

    In effect that adds up to 12 trebles an 8 doubles

    20 bets at a pound each is 20 quid
    You could halve the stake say 50 p

    20 bets will be 10 pound

    Been doing it since start of season had it up twice already,,,

    Be patient with it,

  15. MidwestGun

    Rspc –
    Ok… I use a couple different Las Vegas sports books. Can probably find one that does. I always check Ladbrokes tho to compare odds. Sometimes Vegas is different. Weird…. but I think they are more worried about US based sports like NFL.

  16. MidwestGun

    Rspc –
    Intl break is mood killer combined with going into break losing to Chelscum. Combine that with same old injury concerns and management issues its a real buzzkill.

  17. Rustygunner

    Is this a coincidence that Gazidis is talking about the club’s ambitions today? “We are managed by a Giant”! No disrespect to AW, but does the CEO have to be so beholden to him he has to use such phrases? Is this not confirmation AW is such a dictator whose ego needs to be stroked from time to time? And what about succession planning? If the club feels his departure, when it comes will be disruptive, why not place everything in the open and make it a long term project like Bayern did?

  18. tunnygriffboy


    I’m here with my rattle and vuvuzela ๐Ÿ™‚

    Great result, 11 players out with injury including Rambo and Allen. I said we had some good youngsters and had a chance of qualifying if boys stayed fit. 10 men for whole 2nd half as well

    Fair play to Bale, he really puts a shift in when plays for us as Rambo does. Proud of their heritage.

    Cymru am byth ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚

  19. Cesc Appeal

    “Cymru am byth”

    Uh oh, Tunny is drunk again, just typing nonsensical rubbish ๐Ÿ™‚ Like a drunk text at 4 am to the girl who you loved and broke your heart even though she showed no signs of reciprocating that love or even toleration of you at all… wow don’t open that book.

  20. MidwestGun

    Rusty –
    Concerning succession planning. It does concern me that AW hasn’t announced a retirement date. Or even said this is his last contract. Makes me think there is no plan. It might ease the pressure on him if he said this is my last go round, a victory lap. Basically, then he has nothing to lose.

  21. Cesc Appeal


    If everyone is honest we all have.

    Use to be Arsenal was the one love you could count on, now even that doesn’t feel reciprocal!!!

  22. babatunde

    RSPCA, please can you explain your betting scheme again in layman’s language. I don’t seem to get it still. Thanks

  23. Cesc Appeal


    As long as Arsenal insists on seeing this Arsene Wenger bloke we’ll never be the number one priority. No amount of counselling can reconcile that.

  24. tunnygriffboy

    See Dutch lost to Iceland 0-2 this eve. Belguim draw in Bosnia :), and Germany lost in Poland, Spain in Slovakia yet England get slated even though they won their game. Press here are a joke.

  25. Follow the money

    Wenger’s transfer fiascos might be part of a grand plan to make the club fall down the table after he leaves in order to make himself look good. I wouldn’t put it past him

  26. Wallace

    “Like a drunk text at 4 am to the girl who you loved and broke your heart even though she showed no signs of reciprocating that love or even toleration of you at allโ€ฆ”

    we back on to Cesc again?

  27. Wallace

    “Raheem might say it is something that is becoming ingrained in him and that he felt the need to talk about being tired more than he would normally do,โ€ Hodgson said. โ€œWe have never had any problems with that [Liverpoolโ€™s policy] but I donโ€™t think there is a lot of medical evidence to support the two-day recovery so, if you want to, you might want to research that.

    โ€œCertainly the Germans who everyone admires so much, they donโ€™t do it, that is for certain. We did it from the start because we had people such as John Terry, Ashley Cole, Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard who I felt would be better off having an extra day.”

    – Hodgson questions Liverpool’s two day recovery policy

  28. R.S.P.C.Arsenal


    Very good odds
    Mate at weekend had 6 games for a five pound bet all to be btts
    Came in won 359

    U get annoyed when you get 5 out of 6
    But cover yourselves with five folds, cost a little bit more but you get some back…

    Btts is good check it out,,

  29. Rhys Jaggar

    I”m afraid being ‘played out of position’ happens in companies too. It happened to me twice. Once after aggressive head hunting. Once when I behaved like my own agent and hustled a deal.

    In the first one, once I got played in the right position I started to show what I could do. Then ‘Mr Wenger’ told me to ‘play out wide’ again.

    In the second it was a bit like Steve Bould being told to be Tom Fox, trying to flog 4th in the league as an inducement for big licensing deals. I did quite well coaching the players, even senior ones, and putting up U21s for first team duty. I was good at schmoozing with the retired players too. Then I found that, the one possible chance of bringing ยฃ2.5m in, the bosses had stitched me up with ‘Real Madrid’, kiboshing the deal as a power play to try and force me out. A bit like putting Ozil back on the wing after shooting the lights out at 10 against Villa.

    Life is imperfect, unfortunately. If you just see a job as a job, well, you don’t really worry about such things. You’re emotionally detached, not involved, but that does make it hard to go the extra mile, unless you have kids school fees to pay etc. But if you really care about it, put your heart and soul into it, well: you experience every emotion from wanting to beat the boss up, metaphorically kicking cats from Burnage to Etihad Stadium from the apartment block car park; buying the Sunday Times every weekend in the days when the Recruitment section was 12 pages rather than 2; and generally feeling that something had to give or you had to move on.

    Some people actually like creating such havoc just to ‘show they are competitive’. I’m yet to see the value in getting exhausted fighting your own side: you’re supposed to reserve that for fighting the other lot, after all.

    The thing that worried me the most was how miraculously Giroud’s injury return speeded up as soon as Ozil was announced injured.

    That had better be a coincidence or Wenger is bringing the game of football into disrepute……..