FINANCE OPEN TOP BUS ANYONE… or not…

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“I think [Welbeck] has an interesting potential and let’s see how he develops. He has a good mentality, good physical potential, good technical potential, he contributes to our team play because he doesn’t lose the ball up front and those are important qualities. [Henry] is a good act to follow, you know … I have nothing against it.”

No Arsene! Don’t do this to us. Thierry Welbeck? WELBZierry? Danielle Welbacary?

It’s too tantalising a propsect. I get it though. The frame, the cutting in from wide, the wayward composure at a young age… the smile (come on, Thierry used to be a smiler). Confidence breeds everything in football, well if you have the basics. Whatever happens, he’s proving his value in a more prominent way than Giroud. If he gets his head down, works on his game, well… he’ll have a good career and I’m sure he’ll become a fan favourite.

Results worked for us yesterday. United unravelled in spectacular fashion against Leicester… losing a 2 goal lead! I’ve penned quite a bit on Pearson, mainly because I have LCFC fan in my ear everyday. He’s a smart manager and he’s working wonders with this squad when you consider the horrendous start they’ve had. LVG really has had a shocker based on that cash splurge. Title klaxons feel a bit premature if you ask me.

Chelsea / City was as joyless as usual. Seeing Frank Lampard bury the equaliser was a bit special. A draw suited us. Liverpool are learning the hard way what extra games brings to the table… no zip in their game at all. Finally, Spurs took a 1-0 HAMMERING against WBA.

… it’s fair to say the metaphorical hardon I had for this weekends results wasn’t Viagra induced.

Hilarious scenes at Fulham. Felix Magath bantered the Fulham squad into oblivion with calls to heal a Hangeland injury with a lump of cheese. After losses he’d call players into a meeting room, stare at them for 3 minutes without saying a word. Then ask them to leave. I love that. Get to a certain age and say,

‘fuck what the doctor says, GOD IS A MORE POWERFUL HEALER’

‘Who is God?’

‘Me, now hand me the Monterey Jack, immediately’

That’s a meeting I’d have wanted in on.

Feeling the urge for cheese puns… may-brie that’s not s gouda idea?

SPURS AT HOME THIS WEEKEND

They’re playing poorly, but hey, I remember when they were basically rooted to the bottom of the league and we had that ridiculous draw with a Bentley screamer to finish. I think that was around the time we started involving ourselves in the high scoring school boy  games Alex referred to the other day. Anyway, our form is marginally better after the weekend. My worry is that the result was slightly aided by a sickness ravaged Villa squad. Spurs will be a different type of test. I’m always confident going into these games, but Pochettino makes me nervous, I really think he’s the best thing to happen to them management wise in years. Smart, astute, good with youth and very modern in his approach.

We’ll see though… making the jump from an expectationaless midtable team has foiled many a man…

Head on over to the Swiss Ramble’s take on Arsenal’s finances. £168m wage bill these days, I’m sure I heard that was higher than Chelsea’s. That £200m cash in the bank is also pretty much higher than anyone else’s. Not all for spending, but still an embarrassment of riches considering our squad lightness. Also some critiquing of the board for our slow uptake of secondary deals compared to our rivals.

Finally, a piece on the Portland Trailblazers and how they brought more young people into the game. Really interesting read on how they used UX and personalisation to drive more sales. Part of the issue for Arsenal and tickets is that 99% are sold. The issue is how do you make it well bloody easy to give your ticket out and for the club to ship it back out in seconds… because a 53k ‘actual’ attendance isn’t good on a financial level (selling stuff) and a ‘ new fan on-boarding process’.

Right, that’s me done. HAVE A GOOOOOOD DAY.

 

 

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  1. Shubham

    Every man other than Wenger (and perhaps Pardew & Allardyce) seems to be the next best thing in football management. Brenda, Martinez, Pochettino, Koeman, even Nigel Pearson. Only time will tell. For now, I am backing whatever we have at Arsenal. Hope to build on the win and let Tott’s know who is the boss in London.

  2. Wallace

    Swiss Ramble:

    “In short, without knowing all of the internal details, it’s a mug’s game trying to predict how much Arsenal genuinely have available to spend. It’s clearly not as much the £200 million in the books, but we can say with some conviction that there would be enough available in the January transfer window to cover the glaring weaknesses in the squad, let’s say £40-50 million.”

  3. DUIFG

    Welbeck is a breath of fresh air up front, having somebody who can move AND keep the ball is a revelation. those 2 years with OG were painful to watch.

  4. SomeRandomGunner

    @Shubham Yeah in the last 2 years it has been crazy in here about the next big manager. Most of them have been fired and did nothing. The rest are not looking as good as they were in this season. All have been one season wonders.

  5. Romford Pele

    Some – normally not on here at weekends as i’m always busy though it was relatively quiet this weekend. Just enjoyed watching the football.

  6. Wallace

    reality bites for Liverpool –

    ““You’ve got a lot less time working with the team; if you play on the Saturday, you’ve got Sunday/Monday for recovering, you’ve got the Tuesday game, and then the players who play are recovering Wednesday/Thursday. So you’re doing your first tactical preparation on the Friday, and then you’re travelling straight down to the game. But you can’t complain about it, we’re glad to be here, this is what we have to get used to. We have no excuses today, we just weren’t at our level.”

  7. Bergkamplegend

    “United unravelled in spectacular fashion against Leicester… losing a 2 goal lead! ”
    == >> In an “old fashion arsenal way” lol

    ” Seeing Frank Lampard bury the equaliser was a bit special.”
    == >> It was mostly totally surrealist… lol

  8. Romford Pele

    DUIFG – Did you see that Welbeck had a 97% pass completion rate? That’s unheard of for a CF. Giroud normally averages around 70%. So for all of Giroud’s supposed hold-up play, Welbeck brings the same and also has that threat in behind. But then i’m not entirely surprised. His first two games were a bit of a baptism of fire and in trying to make an impression he rushed his chances a bit. Hopefully getting off the mark at the weekend will give him more confidence. Like the fact that him and Mesut seem to have a good rapport.

  9. Romford Pele

    Mad weekend for football. Liverpool/Everton/United all have very leaky defences despite being good going forward. That said, we’ve only played 5 games thus far so it’s hard to make any definitive conclusions i’d say.

    Sidenote: Put Tyler Blackett in my fantasy team this weekend and look what happened. Taking him and Rooney out for the next game week. United c****

  10. SomeRandomGunner

    Welbeck looks like an excellent signing for Arsenal. His passing and vision is excellent so is his hold up . Fast and gets into very very good positions. Hard worker.

    Only thing he needs to improve is his finishing, which i think he will. He may not become one in 2 striker still can be a 20-25 league goals striker for us.

    Welbeck is better than Giroud in almost all aspects. But Giroud’s movement in and around the box have been excellent, that is how he gets into the positions for tap-ins.

  11. Bergkamplegend

    @DUIFG : “those 2 years with OG were painful to watch.”

    And what about the “next years”, when he will come back in fitness ?? 😉

  12. SomeRandomGunner

    @Romford great results for us this week. Good idea to avoid legrove on weekends, Legrove is not a good read on weekends 🙂 You get too much of “all things arsenal is bad ” and “oh see how well that club is doing” during match days.

  13. Gilo

    Lets keep things in perspective – this was against a sickness ravaged villa. Look at united, thrash a shit QPR one week and then brought back down to earth the next.

    we’re still miles away from challening for the title

  14. Gus J

    A bot off topic, but bear with me.

    Caught the Levante-Barca “match” yesterday and the experience left me utterly numb. Firstly, Levante had not sold out (against a team featuring Messi and Neymar) and took to sending their sales reps on the beaches to push tickets to tourists.

    I mean top points for initiative, but does seem to highlight the desperate nature of Spanish footie.

    As for the game, it was a non contest. Not one player could be bothered. The bookings were compulsory as if the ref needed the stat sheet filled in.

    At no point did anyone on the pitch suggest that they had other incentives for being there other than seeing if they could complete a 90 minute football “match” without having to shower afterwards.

    And when the “deadlock” was broken after a few nifty passes in between two “defenders” whose mobility made me nostalgic for Luzhny and Stepanovs, the goal was celebrated in a fashion that made Balotelli scream in desperation for “a bit of passion”. The cameraman even managed to locate some child on the stands who appeared to be clapping. But whether that had anything to do with the “goal” remains unclear, as his clapping mostly seemed like he was brushing sandwich crumbs from his palms more than suggesting that he had any sort of feeling towards the preceding events on the pitch.

    All this brought me to think two things. One, why on earth was I wasting good bandwidth on this preposterous training exercise that had about as much excitement as the Barnet classic in which Wenger opted for Eboue as winger and Aliadiere up top as target man. Serious fluff.

    Second, the state of Spanish football. One thing are the top three. Plenty of quality and intensity (when they play each other). As for the rest utter kack.

    To see WBA, Leicester, Palace and West Ham give brilliant accounts of themselves despite not being able to afford a replica Ronaldo top between them let alone any player close to being considered good was truly inspirational. For that the credit has to go to the fans. It does!

    And honestly this is the main difference between the PL (and leagues below) and everywhere else.

    Only place that would compete would be the Bundesliga that has some serious commitment from both fans and management. For the rest, bah! Serie A? Have you tried watching a game? 85 minutes of greasy haired models appealing their innocence after savagely trying to undress the opposing player (sometimes by using their studs). Unwatchable.

    Ligue 1? Nope! Despite the cash, still bol*****!

    That really leaves me with the PL! For the rest, yes you may be better technically. You may have some top Brazilians in your squads. But end of day you all have three games each season worth watching (even for free). The rest are absolute shambles. Don’t believe me? Watch Levante – Barcelona. Pleanty of goals that nobody could give a crap about. Least of all the players. I’d rather watch Kevin Davies try to eat Joey Barton.

    ENGERLAND!

    G.

  15. Romford Pele

    Gilo – to keep things in perspective, Chelsea have been the only ones who have looked good thus far. Everyone else is having teething problems.

  16. Thomas

    Keyser what a cunt. Just had to come in and start another argument about me and N5 correcting something that was factually wrong with Lampard.

  17. CHALOOO

    I’m backing welbeck ahead of giroud as starting striker even when fully fit….even if its just because of his movement and passing game.

  18. Romford Pele

    Ozil on Welbeck: “When you analyse [Welbeck’s] game, you notice that he makes a lot of runs and knows where he needs to be. We’re pleased to have a striker like him here. He makes the game simpler for us through his runs and speed.

  19. Romford Pele

    Ozil on the system: “We played a bit differently, in our more usual system. I think that we were a bit better, a bit more organised and in the end that led to our success.

  20. Leedsgunner

    Did Mesut get his favoured spot in the middle on Saturday? As I said, didn’t get a chance to watch the game.

    If so, it’s not a surprise he had a cracker is it? Plus, he had a striker who could move AND finish…. voilà, Özil is back to looking his best. You can have that one for free Arsene — and I don’t even get paid £8m a year.

    TEAM ÖZIL

  21. Bergkamplegend

    “Lets keep things in perspective ”
    Spot on guys.
    Unfortunately many bloggers here aren’t able to do that…

    The best thing to do is to confirm next week-end by trashing the spuds at the Emirates. 🙂

  22. Leedsgunner

    I hope our first XI get a rest… versus Southampton — although if truth be told unless they rest players it will be a very tough draw. Koeman is a good manager who does tactics very well — I suspect they’ll be up for it. It would be interesting to see our brightest prospects get a run out like Crowley and Akpom. Heck if we are lucky, apparently we have a midfield monster called Diaby who’s been ripping it up! 😉 (Unless he’s injured — which is more than likely).

  23. DUIFG

    DUIFG – Did you see that Welbeck had a 97% pass completion rate? That’s unheard of for a CF. Giroud normally averages around 70%. So for all of Giroud’s supposed hold-up play, Welbeck brings the same and also has that threat in behind. But then i’m not entirely surprised. His first two games were a bit of a baptism of fire and in trying to make an impression he rushed his chances a bit. Hopefully getting off the mark at the weekend will give him more confidence. Like the fact that him and Mesut seem to have a good rapport.

    really? that’s big, wenger even said himself in his post match interview having somebody who can hold on to it up top is critical.

    im really impressed, the assits for ozil shows he has a lot more about him than just a pace monster.

    tbf we said all summer we thought ozil would only come good once he had somebody in front to stretch people, didn’t think it would be the cf providing ozil though!

    Ozil has always had a burst of pace, very rarely seen though, if he can make thoseruns in behind as well along with wally im excited!

  24. Romford Pele

    Dark Hei – Hopefully we can stay within close distance of Chelsea and then act in January…. But this is Wenger we’re talking about.

    I still feel like he’s gonna persist with that 4-1-4-1… Or change to try and get Wilshere and Ramsey in the same side going forward.

  25. DUIFG

    Am I reading too much into sanchez being dropped or is it natural rotation for a guy who has played pretty much every game this season?

  26. Bergkamplegend

    “Özil is back to looking his best.’

    Agree, but we have absolutely NO guarantee that wenger will keep him in this position… And mostly I wait to see him being more decisive in the big games.

  27. Romford Pele

    Leeds – i’m pretty sure there’ll be heavy rotation, around 8/9 players changed I’d guess. So many players needing game time. You can work the formation out from these personnel:

    Ospina
    Monreal
    Bellerin
    Hayden
    Chambers
    Diaby
    Coquelin
    Wilshere
    Flamini
    Sanogo
    Poldi
    Rosicky
    Campbell
    Ox

    Wilshere and Chambers are really the only one who’ve had the minutes. All the others could do with gametime.

  28. DUIFG

    @DUIFG : “those 2 years with OG were painful to watch.”

    And what about the “next years”, when he will come back in fitness ?? 😉

    on current showings I cant see how he could get back in the team, welbeck does literally everything better than giroud bar defensive heading.

    Giround should be the classical plan B striker, in that role he could be ok, the disgrace was the 2 years as our primary guy

  29. Romford Pele

    DUIFG – Sanchez has played every game since arriving and Wenger just said he needed a rest. No need to play him against Southampton either. Rest him for Sp**s next weekend.

  30. Dream10

    Romford

    If we play better with the 4-2-3-1 , do we play Wilshere on the right and Welbeck starting on the left to hold shape or does Jack rotate w/ Ramsey?

    1) Wilshere occupies the space Oezil thrives on
    2) Can Jack be disciplined enough to patrol the front of backline w/ Arteta?

  31. karim

    RP
    Another easy win for Marseille, topping the league already
    Gignac has now 6 in 6. nice goals as well
    Zlatan had his worst game ever and spent the whole game bullying Gonalons and elbowing passers by.
    What a cunt sometimes lol !

  32. Romford Pele

    Dream – With the options we have i’m not sure it makes sense for Wilshere to be in any of the wide positions. If he has to play wide though, I’d prefer it be from the right. I do, however, agree with you. From what i’ve seen thus far, he and Ozil do seem to get into the way of each other.

    The only option is for Jack to play the pivot with Arteta. Far from ideal, of course, but that’s what Wenger chose to work with.

  33. kapslock

    So happy Ozil played well on Saturday. I do love him but have said he needs to fix up. From the kick off he looked lively. I hope he keeps it up. Nice to see us cruise 2nd half without Villa threatening at all. What a brilliant weekend as well, Liverpool really do look shit. The United calamity never stops being funny, that point at Leicester doesn’t look too bad now. Need to rotate tomorrow and rest our key players. Spuds, Gala and Chelsea up next before the Int’l break. Going to be tough.

  34. Romford Pele

    Karim, thanks for the update. Sounds like the Biesla revolution is really taking shape. Has Thauvin had much of an influence?

  35. Leedsgunner

    Romford

    “Dark Hei – Hopefully we can stay within close distance of Chelsea and then act in January…. But this is Wenger we’re talking about.”

    Sadly even if we do keep within striking distance of Chelsea if Wenger has made up his mind that his squad is sufficient for the challenges ahead in January he’ll keep his hands firmly in his pockets — on the basis of principle and stubbornness to prove himself right and prove everyone else wrong. I mean last January was a perfect example — we were leading the pack and all we needed was a CB, DM and a ST — and what did Wenger do? He took the proverbial by signing Fat Kimmy Kallstrom. He threw away our best chance for a title for a decade — for what?

    Very sadly, the positions that we need strengthening in January STILL need strengthening… even almost 10 months on.

    If it was me Sanogo needs to go out on loan in January. By all means allow him to learn his trade but not at the expense of our first team… if we need a back up striker, we have one in Akpom. Let’s bring him in more — and give Welbeck’s legs a rest… we need him fresh as a daisy for the NLD.

  36. Bergkamplegend

    @DUIFG : you really think that arsène will now prefer wally over L’Oreal ??

    I’m not convinced at all by that “possibility”… lol

  37. Romford Pele

    Leeds – yeah I don’t disagree. Can’t see us being active in Jan though it would be foolish not to act if we’re in a positive position.

    Sanogo may well be loaned if Giroud is on course to return late December/early January. I’d be very surprised if we went into the market for an attacker for quite a while now. Only way it happens is if we offload a few as we’re very top-heavy.

    Targets in January should be a DM and CB, We’ll see though I very much doubt it.

  38. kapslock

    4-2-3-1 is obviously the way to go, the players are used to it as well. Jack/Arteta/Ramsey to rotate. No need to fit in all 3 players every game, keep them fresh. Ramsey will play himself into form but his passing is shocking at the moment. There was a pass to BFG on Sat that went out for a corner. Not worried about our attacking force at all, especially with Walcott coming back. We’ll look very strong up top, I’m just hoping the defence hold out until Jan.

  39. Romford Pele

    “Did Rambo have another indifferent game on Saturday?”

    Indifferent is probably a good way to describe it. Wasn’t awful but considering the heights he set himself last year he’s not really living up to it. Might be for a multitude of reasons. That said, he was involved in all our good moves and brought a real balance to the side (that hasn’t been seen this season) by sitting deeper besides Arteta.

  40. karim

    RP / Dream

    Thauvin has been ok but his behaviour is still crap Gignac and Payet are on fire though
    Imbula slowly back to his best
    ION, Enyeama won t let a goal in this year either

  41. Romford Pele

    “Thauvin has been ok but his behaviour is still crap”

    Crap as in he’s not buying into Biesla’s pressing system?

    Enyeama is a quality GK. All due respect to Lille but surprised he hasn’t been snapped up yet.

  42. Dream10

    Pogba and Schneiderlin qualify as home grown players. A benefit for a top 4 club in England who pursue one or both of them.

    Chelsea don’t look secure in front of their backline as Mourinho managed teams usually do. They are heavily reliant on Matic. They will definitely address that area in the next two transfer windows. Schneiderlin would be an excellent addition for them as he can play in place or with Matic.

    We could definitely use him. His price continues to rise.

  43. gambon

    Lol, Wenger is so reactionary its hilarious, yet he tried to maintain this aura of someone who knows what hes doing.

    Lets face it, he came away from Villa Park on sayurday with absolutely no idea how we ended up winning.

    Since Cesc left:

    – He decided Ramsey was our next Number 10, with Wilshere set to take the role long term
    – He changed his mind and signed Cazorla to play #10
    – Halfway through the season he changed his mind and decided Cazorla was better wide, and played Rosicky as number 10
    – He signed Ozil basically cos he was available, and put him in the number 10 role
    – He changed his mind and decided Ozil wasnt ideal, and put him wide
    – He again changed his mind and put Ozil central again, after fans and pundits all questioned what on earth he was doing playing Ozil wide left

    Look at whats happened since RVP left:

    – He signed Podolski and Giroud to replace him
    – He said Podolskis future is through the middle and played him there about 3 times
    – He said Giroud was our new CF
    – He decided to play wideman Gervinho at CF
    – He drops Giroud for Sanogo
    – He drops Sanogo for Giroud
    – He signs Welbeck as our new CF

    Look at all the ridiculous organisation chaos and you can imagine what its like being a player under Wenger.

    The guys a fucking looney.

  44. Leedsgunner

    I agree Romford

    Ospina
    Monreal
    Bellerin
    Hayden
    Chambers
    Diaby
    Coquelin
    Wilshere
    Flamini
    Sanogo
    Poldi
    Rosicky
    Campbell
    Ox

    Looking at that list, it’s ridiculous how unbalanced our squad is in the middle.

    If it was my choice I would have shipped out Flamini, Poldi, Coquelin, and Campbell, especially if he’s not going to be played. (plus there was a lot of interest in him after the WC)

    I reckon even conservatively speaking I reckon we could have sold

    Flamini – £1m
    Poldi for £8m
    Coquelin – £2m
    Campbell – £15m

    Boom – £25m right there with change to spare — and we could have either bought Schneiderlin or Carvalho.

    One player I would like us to keep is Rosicky. I guess due to his age he’s getting marginalised but I don’t like the fact that Tomas is not being used as an impact sub. I personally felt we could have used his energy in the last 20 minutes against teams like Leicester and Everton… his experience would be perfectly suited for a role as a super sub.

    His reading of the game is so good… I would suggest he would make an excellent scout and/or a coach. I would love to see him kept on after he hangs up his boots.

  45. Romford Pele

    Leeds, Rosicky came on against Villa, but he’s hardly been used all season which is weird considering he’s fit and available.

  46. karim

    RP
    Thauvin respects what he s asked to do on the pitch which is fine but is always arguing with oppponents and won t listen to his older teammates which I find annoying after all we ve been through in France
    I don t like his personnality but can t deny he s a talent

    To ” bounce ” on what you were saying the other day Enyeama may be suffering from the fact he s a bit small
    can t think of another explanation as to why he s still there. Lovely guy as well

  47. Wallace

    Dream 10

    “Chelsea don’t look secure in front of their backline as Mourinho managed teams usually do.”

    yeah, as good as Chelsea have looked(with their very easy start) if Mourinho’s going to play Cesc alongside Matic they are going to be more vulnerable at the back. be interesting to see how it plays out, as safety first is definitely Mourinho’s default setting.

  48. Romford Pele

    I was suprised that Mourinho started Cesc in the pivot. If he wanted to go for a creative player there, surely Oscar makes a lot more sense? Stronger, quicker and a higher workrate. That said, it didn’t make any difference really, only one team was trying to win that game. Fair play to City for coming back into it with 10 men. Milner MOTM

  49. Dream10

    Wallace

    well said mate. Mourinho is a safety first manager. Which is why he does well in European competition. They won’t rely on Matic for the whole year. Could see Obi Mikel sold in January and Schneiderlin brought in.

  50. Dream10

    Romford

    A match of attrition at times. But, Fabregas would have been praised if Costa’s great left foot effort had not come off the post. Believe it was he who made the pass. By the way, Diego Costa is a pain in the ass, but he is some player. Lovely play to swing the ball out wide to Hazard for Schurrle’s finish and his technique and speed of thought for his second effort.

    Welbeck seems more adept at playing a link role in a strike pairing? More effective playing with a class centre forward or Walcott than a Sanchez IMO

  51. reality check

    Giroud coming back could end up like RVP coming back. In reverse.

    chamack – Rvp (wenger chose rvp)

    welbeck – giroud (I think wenger chooses giroud tbh)

    The striker with less ability but, is one of his favourites.

    Welbeck could be put on the left. Ozil on the bench in some games.
    If the captain must play. The great white hope must play and the welsh wizard must play. Then unfortunately again, the better players will be sacrificed. Like santi on the bench or Mesut on the left.

    This is how wenger moves.

  52. Leedsgunner

    gambon

    Don’t forget Wenger was hinting earlier in the summer that Wilshere was going to be our new DM but then when Roy did exactly that for England — he blasted him for it.

    https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/pitchside/jack-wilshere-shine-defensive-midfielder-122442945.html

    In the face of Arteta’s lethargic performances I wish Wenger would play Jack there — at least then Özil would be played in his natural position and not left out to dry on the wing.

  53. Rhys Jaggar

    The 2014 accounts are utterly boring. Not really much need for an analysis to be honest. The club broke even without transfer profits, football segment grew to replace property business coming to a close, the cash pot by next summer will outstrip outstanding debt (which is different from Lawrenson et al saying that ‘Arsenal have paid off the debt’ (which they won’t have done until 2031)) and matchday revenue returned to £100m after a godawful 2013 figure. Oh, and the retail business performance is still pretty piss poor to be honest. Little if any growth, which tells you that finishing 4th and last 16 of the Champions League doesn’t sell shirts, pyjamas, bobble hats, down jackets, fleeces, hoodies etc etc.

    The only thing fans need to know is that there is a shedload of cash available for transfers and wages. Whether it was £150m or £170m you can argue about. There’s £203m in cash plus cash equivalents and a need to put £30 – 50m aside to cover the terms of the mortgage. Some of that is to pay the players’ wages from the season ticket money already in the bank. But nothing less than that is tenable from the CEO.

    So fans and sponsors have basically paid for 10 years for the club to horde cash. Is that what you signed up for? Morally I’m talking about. What your contract for your season ticket says is different. I’m talking about you, the fan with passion who doesn’t go to the Emirates to watch cricket at Lords, you go there to scream abuse at Spurs fans, the referee and the racist c**t in front of you who thinks black people aren’t like white people.

    That’s what the accounts say. You’re being responsible parents making sacrifices for someone else.

    Is that your children or is it the Board??

    Perhaps you’d like to ask Ivan Gazidis that at the AGM??

    You certainly wouldn’t get a straight answer from Arsene Wenger on that one……

  54. Romford Pele

    Dream – I think if you were to ask most strikers they’d prefer to play in a partnership. And 442 does seem to be coming back into vogue in certain instances. Tbh I wouldn’t be against it if we had more combative CMs but we don’t so we kind of have to clog the midfield area to avoid getting overrun. You know what’s funny; watching United yesterday I was thinking that Welbeck is ideal for the sort of football LVG is trying to play. A lot quicker and his passing and moving compared to the geriatrics that are RVP and Rooney.

    That said, I think Welbeck can play the lone role too. It’s a big step up for him but I think he’ll do well over time. Still getting used to his new teammates but there were promising signs at the weekend.

  55. Gregg

    Re Rosicky, I think Wenger see’s him as a key figure in the second half of the season and his trying to keep him fresh for then. That’s all well and good as long as we’re in and around it all after Xmas.

  56. reality check

    @romford

    That’s just it friend, nobody would agree with it lol

    but look at gambons breakdown of how wenger switches this one for that one, oh shit, don’t fancy that one, let me try this one.

    It’s like Gazidis said, what Wenger wants, and what the fans want….

  57. Dream10

    Romford

    good point.Welbeck keeps things ticking over. Who knows, he may have wanted to move Rooney, but who will pay 300k a week?

  58. Romford Pele

    “It’s like Gazidis said, what Wenger wants, and what the fans want….”

    This is true my friend and I don’t disagree with it. What I would say, however, is that Wenger hates static number 9s. And I think that was a big reason in him going for Welbeck. He’s said quite a few times with Giroud that it encourages players to play lazy balls up to the big man. Welbeck gives Arsenal that mobility both wide and through the middle, while retaining what supposedly makes Giroud that threat.

  59. Romford Pele

    Lol Dream, it’s mad how much power Rooney has at United. Asked for a transfer request twice, ended up getting two pay rises. Moyes was scared of him so gave him that new contract but you now have someone earning 300k pw who really isn’t playing to that tag.

  60. Romford Pele

    Watched Barca last night. Worryingly, looks like Neymar and Messi are starting to click. If Suarez works out it could be an awful lot of trouble for teams.

  61. Bergkamplegend

    Let’s not enjoying yoonited’s troubles too much…

    Once they will be solids at the back, they will become the team to beat.
    Just before playing us maybe ?? lol

  62. Leedsgunner

    Re Rosicky, I think Wenger see’s him as a key figure in the second half of the season and his trying to keep him fresh for then. That’s all well and good as long as we’re in and around it all after Xmas.

    Gregg

    If only.

    Wenger doesn’t think ahead. If he did, he wouldn’t be so reactionary. Let me guess, did Wenger hail the team on Saturday for their mental strength and self belief on Saturday? Hilarious, he said they were lacking the same on Tuesday we lost to Dortmund. I’m sorry Wenger does not have a clue. The only “strategy” he believe in to to grab fourth place.

  63. Wallace

    “Let’s also be clear here… when Chelsea did attack (even with City were still at 11 men) Manchester City likewise rushed as many players as they could behind the ball….one could also look back to the match against Arsenal where Manchester City likewise defended in numbers and fairly deep whenever Arsenal attacked… in addition to kicking any Arsenal player who came within range.”

    – lots of fans from different clubs highlighting Pellegrini’s hypocrisy in the Guardian’s ’10 points from the weekend’

  64. Gregg

    Leeds,

    Seriously I do think that. I doubt he wants to get into another Kim kallsatrom situation and that’s one of the reasons for using Thomas sparingly. I guess he probably thinks the same with Diaby aswell !

  65. Biggus

    “When you analyse [Welbeck’s] game, you notice that he makes a lot of runs and knows where he needs to be. We’re pleased to have a striker like him here. He makes the game simpler for us through his runs and speed.” – Ozil

    That’s what a forward with pace gets you. I know Giroud has his uses (defending corners and general wingman for going clubbing) but give me a forward with pace anyday!!!

  66. Emiratesstroller

    It will be interesting to see which players are selected tomorrow night in League Cup. My instinct tells me that Wenger will want to keep those players likely to play next Saturday against Spuds as fresh as possible.

    The problem at moment is that we are acutely short of defensive options. Debuchy and possibly Monreal are unavailable through injury.

    Wenger has in past used the League Cup to introduce younger players from
    Reserve Squad [U21]. It will be interesting to see whether Bellerin and Hayden
    are selected tonight for U21 game against Newcastle. If they are not then the
    probability is that they will be playing tomorrow against Southampton.
    I would be selecting for this game OspinaBellerin,Chambers,Hayden,Monreal,Flamini,Diaby,,Rosicky,Podolski,Sanogo,Campbell with Martinez,Wilshire,Coquelin,Gnabry and Walcott [if fit] sitting on bench.

    This will be a difficult game to win, but our priority must be to keep our main defenders healthy and not overworked and our first choice midfielders and forwards sharp for next two games against Spurs and Galatasary.

  67. azed

    On to the chavs, i seriously don’t know why people are complaining about Maureen packing the bus. We all know that is his default setting and it got them a point.

    I’d rather have that than 8-2. 6-0 anytime.

  68. Leedsgunner

    Tell Pellegrini to give in. He’s an amateur. Let me explain.

    He might bring in top players to his club, and have a transfer policy that resembles a plan, won the EPL title last year — but, NO ONE absolutely NO ONE matches Arsene for complaining about the unfairness of it all. He’s not even in the same league.

  69. reality check

    Romford… see what your saying makes logical sense, but like I said, just looking at what wenger has done this past decade. Most of it doesn’t make sense to me, he’ll make a decison then reverse his decision then re-reverse the same decision.

    So, if thats the reality of wenger, using it as a base model to predict an outcome. I can see giroud being put straight back in, no hesitation.

    Bah, we’ll see I guess. I’m just saying, chamack did ok when he first started for us. Not great but, ok. Rvp was ten times the striker chamack was. So most fans pundits, didn’t think to much of the switch.

    but is danny welbeck, that much better than giroud.

    From wengers point of view. Remember, he said he really only wanted welbeck on loan. With a view to buy. Would that fill you with a lot of confidence. Especially as Giroud is one of his favourites.

  70. Romford Pele

    Reality,

    There was night and day between RVP and Chamakh. I think everyone thought as much even when we signed the Moroccan. I remember tearing my hair out at his inability to hit a ball cleanly. He had his uses but he was never top notch.

    RE Giroud and Welbeck. We’ve seen the extent of what Giroud can bring. And while it has its uses, we need to evolve our play if we’re ever going to be a threat at the top level. Now i’m not saying Welbeck will be this though I’m quite optimistic on him. I think there’s a lot more to his game, all while bringing what Giroud can bring. But like you say, we’ll see. If Welbeck has a storming 4 months while Giroud is recovering, then he’ll be the undisputed no.1 IMO.

  71. Bergkamplegend

    ” The point is we should have NEVER brought Kim Kallstrom in in the first place! ”

    As long as it’s not our own money…

  72. qna

    @Biggus, interesting to read that quote from Ozil. It is reassuring, because I weigh his opinion more than any mug on here (which includes my own mug opinion), but more importantly I actually weigh it more than I do Wenger’s – who has lost credibility with me now.

    However, I will remain a skeptic on Welbeck and will stand by it to be proven wrong. I will be happy to be wrong too. So this is what I stand by: Welbeck is a second tier striker. Not in the same class as RVP or Henry (who were our only recent strikers in that class), or the class of Rooney, Aguero, Costa or Falcao. Not even in the same class as Dzeko, Balotelli or Jovetec. I think Welbeck is in the same class as Giroud and Podolski. My opposition to signing him is not that I dont want him in the squad, its that we already have players of his quality and we actually needed a TOP class CF a level above what we already had.

    I am not sure what @Pedro means when he says “Whatever happens, he’s proving his value in a more prominent way than Giroud.”, but I think we would all be happy if Welbeck gives the same goal output as Giroud in his first 2 seasons: 17 in 47 and 22 in 51. I think that is the output that I expect from a second rate striker and I expect Welbeck to give us about the same. If Welbeck does a Sturridge (who I admit I didn’t rate him to do what he has done at Liverpool since his move) then I will gladly admit my mistake.

    However, I cant see that happening. I will also put it out there that I expect Balotelli to be a far better performer for Liverpool than Welbeck is for Arsenal.

  73. Corona X

    I really wish you would stop saying Welbz, Pedro…. We’re not scousers, are we?
    What’s next, Rozza? Cazza?

    Still love your blog! But reading “Welbz” make me twitch inside 🙁

  74. Romford Pele

    “I really wish you would stop saying Welbz, Pedro…. We’re not scousers, are we?”

    Lol well we do say Rambo, Gibbo, Chambo etc! Anyway the real way to reference Welbeck is ‘Dat guy’!

  75. Bergkamp63

    “Romford Pele September 22, 2014 10:08:38
    I was suprised that Mourinho started Cesc in the pivot. If he wanted to go for a creative player there, surely Oscar makes a lot more sense? Stronger, quicker and a higher workrate. That said, it didn’t make any difference really, only one team was trying to win that game. Fair play to City for coming back into it with 10 men”

    For someone who watches a lot of football, you seem to think very much like Wenger these days, that’s why we get spanked away from home to the top teams.

    You can’t always play every team the same, sometimes you have to sacrifice a little creativity in matches in order to remain compact and solid, Mourinho changed tactics during the game and moved Cesc further forward later on, which is why they were still in the game at 60 mins, unlike Arsenal !

  76. qna

    Romford: “There was night and day between RVP and Chamakh. I think everyone thought as much even when we signed the Moroccan. I remember tearing my hair out at his inability to hit a ball cleanly. He had his uses but he was never top notch.”

    Agree completely. Never rated the Moroccan and was a typical bargain basement buy. My greatest opposition was to Park, Gervinho, Santos and Arteta. I still don’t rate Gervinho and dont care what he is doing at Roma. Gervinho was bought when we should have paid an extra 5m to 10m and got Eden Hazard. Park and Santos were also unmitigated bargain basement disasters. I was also strongly against Arteta and remain so to this day. He was a poor mans Cesc and we should have taken the Cesc money and spent it on an equally talented midfielder instead. I still believe Arteta is a Spuds/Everton level player and he has dragged us to a level below the top teams ever since he has become integral to our team. Not saying I havent seen Arteta’s value and good performances since he has been at the club. I am saying by signing him we have traveled along a completely different path/road to the one we were on and it coincides with us completely falling off pace with the top clubs.

  77. reality check

    @corona

    lol

    @romford

    I should finish by saying I hope I’m wrong by the way because I obviously prefer ‘dat guy’

    sanchez and santi are the mystery in terms of wengers plans once everybody is fit imo.

  78. Romford Pele

    B63 – I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Playing Cesc in the pivot was actually a very attacking move by Mourinho which I didn’t expect. Thought he’d go more along the lines of Mikel-Matic or Ramire-Matic. What I was saying was that if Mourinho wanted to play a creative player in the pivot Oscar would’ve been a better shout as I think he has the attributes to carry out better defensive work.

    Me, I have no problem with Mourinho’s tactics. It’s as effective as it gets. Wenger could definitely learn a thing or two. That would require him signing more robust players though!

  79. goonpharm

    Afternoon all. I’m in the “why isn’t Rosicky playing” camp too. The guy is brilliant and brings so much energy to the team. As someone alluded to earlier his drive and energy in the last 20 in those 3 draws could have made a difference.

    Strange one indeed.

    Rosicky did mention something in an interview whilst on international duty regarding the lack of playing time. Perhaps Le Gaffer wasn’t impressed?

  80. Romford Pele

    “I still don’t rate Gervinho and dont care what he is doing at Roma. Gervinho was bought when we should have paid an extra 5m to 10m and got Eden Hazard”

    Definitely should’ve signed Hazard. That said, I do have a bit of a soft spot for Gervinho though I acknowledge his deficiencies. Also it’s hard to argue that apart from Arsenal, he’s been a success everywhere he’s been. 12 goals and 11 assists last season, has 3 goals and 2 assists so far this campaign. But then again he does seem to follow Rudi Garcia around quite a bit.

  81. Bergkamp63

    Me, I have no problem with Mourinho’s tactics. It’s as effective as it gets. Wenger could definitely learn a thing or two. That would require him signing more robust players though!

    This is very true, I couldn’t help notice the physicality of the Chelsea players yesterday, when you compare them to our team, it’s no surprise we keep picking up injuries all the time. Ivanovic & Azpilicueta have twice the muscle on them as our weedy little fullbacks.

  82. Cesc Appeal

    RP

    So Ozil noticed it as well. We’ve been harping on about our poor set up for weeks and weeks.

    Hopefully it’s an agenda the £42 Million man pushes in training, must have felt good to receive all the plaudits after so much critique of his play. Doubt he’ll want to go back into a system that he knows doesn’t suit him.

    But as you say I think Wenger will try to push on with this 4-1-4-1 at home, he seems desperate to try to fit Ramsey AND Wilshere in the same side. Just doesn’t go.

    Wilshere is playing better right now but I still feel Ramsey gives greater balance and more athleticism to the middle. Always feel as if our tempo is disrupted and we look out of sorts when Wilshere plays. If he’s on it then he’s terrific to watch, if he’s not he hurts us.

    Hoping for some tactics on Saturday, Spurs are like Diet Arsenal right now, knock the ball around nicely but they have no thrust, can’t step it up a gear. I’d even go so far as to say cede control of the game a little to them and smack them with the viscous backhand of a counter attack. I see this as one of those games on Saturday where we could be 2-0 up in no time. Hoping Forest give them the run about on Wednesday, as much as the COC is an annoyance they need to build some form going into the NLD away.

  83. Leedsgunner

    Romford

    Good points about le Forehead… if it was up to me, it is clear we should have signed both Haszard and Gervinho together as a pair 😉 At Lille they had an understand which gave the appearance of being almost telepathic! Glad Rudi Garcia has gotten him playing back to his best. Wenger doesn’t look though, whichever way you look at it, does he?

  84. Vintage Gun

    Dat guy Welbz for me over Mario, for now anyways as its still very, very early days.

    Mario’s the more talented but Danny’s the harder worker.

    Interesting to see how their season pans out.

  85. Romford Pele

    B63 – Nothing new I guess. We’ve spoken loads about how Wenger has veered away from what bought him initial success. From being a team of heavyweights with Vieira and co to now being a team of flyweights. Now there’s nothing wrong with flyweights, of course. They bring the guile. But when you have a team of them with no physical ability to mix it up, you encounter problems. City have the likes of Kompany, Toure and Mangala to go with the guile of Silva, Nasri etc.

    Simply put, if Arsenal had a Matic and Fernandinho in the middle of the park, it’d be a lot easier for the guile players to express themselves. But you have to ask Wenger why he’s so intent on building a side so imbalanced and lacking discipline defensively.

  86. Bamford13

    1. Yes, please stop saying ‘Welbz’.
    2. Alfie – Probaby Welbeck, despite Balotelli being the better striker.
    3. Without at least a better CDM, we finish fourth. Though if United keep giving away games, third is possible.
    4. City look stronger than Chelsea, but Chelsea have guile.

  87. Leedsgunner

    Welbeck 1 Mario 1

    It’ll be interesting to see who comes out on top at the end of the season. Initially I would have said Balo but if ÖZIL is continued in the middle it could be a very fruitful partnership.

  88. Cesc Appeal

    Ozil really did look like he enjoyed playing behind Welbeck.

    I’m looking forward to seeing what happens when he has Walcott and Sanchez either side as well, spilt for choice then!

    Just really hope we get that CDM in in January, should have been done over the summer but…

    Mertesacker is going to need replacing in the not too distant as well.

  89. Romford Pele

    Cesc – yeah it wasn’t a surprise was it? I don’t think many people moaned about the formation last season. What we did moan about was the dearth of quality in certain positions (CB, DM and ST). Two of those positions are still left derelict despite the good acquisitions.

    Agree with you about Ramsey. He didn’t play great at the weekend but you saw that the balance was a lot better than it has been in recent weeks. Sure Wenger will upset that at some point by moving back to 4-1-4-1.

    Spurs is massive this Saturday. We’ve won the last three but i’m always a tad apprehensive with these games. Form goes out the window and the game becomes a bit of a free-for-all. Hoping we win. This is Ozil’s first taste of it. Hoping we press them off the park.

  90. Romford Pele

    Leeds – we should’ve just raided that Lille side back then 😉

    Had Bastos, Debuchy, Gervinho, Cabaye, Hazard all in it. Serious potency. Looks like Garcia is trying for something similar at Roma now. Totti playing false 9 but has Destro waiting in the wings!

  91. Cesc Appeal

    RP

    Agreed about NLD, you can’t use any barometer to predict them. Could be 3-0, could be 5-2, could be 1-0, could be 4-4, could be 2-3 you just never know. Certina players just rise to the occasion sometimes. I always remember Jenas always seemed to have a cracker against us!

    It was the same the tail end of the 12/13 campaign, Ramsey and Arteta whilst not spectacular gave us good balance and a platform to play from. I read someone say they thought Wilshere does the defensive side better than Ramsey – simply do not agree with this at all. I think Ramsey per game last season had most tackles in our midfield I believe and was second in pass accuracy to Arteta.

    I think the problem is it SHOULD be Wilshere’s job to try and find a niche in the team, to carve a place. Right now Wenger is making it Arsenal’s job to find one for him. Not blaming our poor start on Wilshere at all.

    But the 4-2-3-1 is certainly much better for us. I really hate that 4-MESS-1 formation. We look like a bunch of blokes who’ve never met before kicking a ball between each other.

    Still so bitterly disappointed with our CDM options, as you say Fernandinho next to Ramsey for example and we look different.

  92. Kane

    There is a short termist and a long termist view

    The short termist view changes game to game, post Dortmund it was of a team in disarray, a team lacking the key squad membrs to compete against the best in Europe and unable to conest the league or ECL. Post Villa it was a team on the up, a team that, with Ozil in the hole and Danny Welbeck up front, looked like it could achieve something this season.

    The long termist view pre season was that unless we didn’t strengthen the side sufficiently we had zero chance of winning the league or ECL. The long termist view has not changed since July 01.

    The conflict on blogs like these is half the posters hold a short termist view and the other half a long termist view – which means no short term joy or success can be celebrated because the long term view remains the same.

    The only way to enjoy the now, is to seperate the views and talk about the short term or long term independently of each other.

    How many posters, when the whistle blew on Saturday to end the match honestly thought “we can win the league or the EPL after that performance”? I’d bet none of you… and you would be right…

    Celebrate the short term… but keep in mind that long term, without signifcant change, we will never be able to compete for the biggest trophies.

  93. Dissenter

    I’ve never been impressed by Mario.
    He’s a drama queen who doesn’t contribute as much to the team.
    He doesn’t score enough goals to be considered world class by any stretch.
    Did you see his clatter into Adrian at Westham that almost started a brawl?

    Welbeck is more of a team player.
    Inzaghi wanted to foster team spirit at Milan and the first player he chucked about was Mario. His team is the better for it.

    Welbeck for me every single day.

  94. qna

    Kane: “Celebrate the short term… but keep in mind that long term, without signifcant change, we will never be able to compete for the biggest trophies.”

    You might not believe it but I do try to do that. I have for years since we started selling and not replacing. But I admit that the joy of winning used to include the prospect of “if we can win these fixtures we just might…”, but that particular excitement is gone. But its still great to watch us play well.

  95. Bergkamplegend

    “Celebrate the short term… but keep in mind that long term, without signifcant change, we will never be able to compete for the biggest trophies.”

    Amen to that.

  96. Leedsgunner

    Romford

    Good manager Garcia — plays exciting football and most importantly he is able to communicate his “style” over to the players. They want to play for him.

    This season it seems we’re all over the place — what’s our game plan? I doubt if Wenger knows from game to game, which I find amusing considering he plays more or less the same players.

  97. TitsMcgee

    The conflict on blogs like these is half the posters hold a short termist view and the other half a long termist view – which means no short term joy or success can be celebrated because the long term view remains the same.”

    Great post.

  98. qna

    Dissenter: “I’ve never been impressed by Mario.”

    And yet you are impressed with Welbeck? I agree that Mario has an attitude problem but Mario is a superstar, Welbeck has never shown any hint that he has the skills to be a world class forward. The upside to Mario is that he could be Suarez/Zlatan good. Welbeck might be as good as Andy Cole if he is lucky.

    And that incident with Adrian – come on. Mario didnt just put in a challenge – it wasnt even worth a yellow until Adrian reacted and the Ref had to give them one each.

    I notice you didnt mention Balotelli’s first touch, turn and shoot that finished with Sterling putting the ball in the back of the net. More skill in that move than Giroud and Welbeck have in them full stop.

    Balotelli to Arsenal would have put Chelsea and City to Defcon 1. Welbeck has changed nothing.

  99. Relieable sauce

    Balls for DM! (Ed Balls)

    ————————Welbeck—————–
    TW—————–Ozil——————–
    ——————————————-Alexis
    —————————-Rambo———
    —————-BALLS————————-
    ————————Back 5——————

  100. Confidentgoner

    Chelsea’ best players are : Matic, Costa, Courtois, Schurle and Ferbagas.

    Matic is a fantastic DM, who can also play box to box. Costa even playing with a weak hamstring was a handful for City and almost scored.

    If Lord Wenger can give us a solid DM, a CB and an excellent Striker, we can win things.

    On Dortmund, how do they press for almost 90minutes? What are they on? EPL have far lazier players compared to the Bundesliga.

    Except Dortmund were on drugs…

  101. MadeToLoveMagic

    on balance welbz is probably the better bet for us over Balo

    similar players just balos finishing is better , and i guess you could say he is more enigmatic which can work in your favour

    but running and movement welbz looks great, he is sensible and if he can get his finishing up to where it could be then i think we could have a better playeer all round than Balo

  102. Dissenter

    qna,
    You seem stunned by my views about Ballotelli.
    I’m not sure he’s worth the space really.

    He’s a superstar…based on his performance on the field or off it.
    Mario is a superstar because so his antics off the field and the racial abuse he’s endured in Italy. He’s a superstar because he lives the life most people dream of; drive Ferraris and screw new hot models.

    What’s the highest number of goals he’s scored in a regular season, minus the penalties he used to take at Milan. In open play, Mario is more of candy for the cameras than prolific in goal scoring.

    We obviously disagree.
    Well neck for me any day, even if he wasn’t playing for us.
    Liverpool would have been better off with Borini and Sturridge but they just couldn’t resist.

  103. Dissenter

    Something tells me that we’ll be signing Daniel Aggar from Brondy in January.

    He’s only 29yrs old Nd has tones of premier league experience.
    First he had to get off all those silly YNWA tattoos off.

  104. Josip Skoblar

    I’d be happy with Rudi Garcia as new coach when Wenger eventually goes. He’s an excellent manager who can win trophies. He’s a quiet decent man too.

  105. Biggus

    @qna
    I hear what you’re saying about Welbeck and I agree he is not going to be like your 20 – 30 goals striker but my frustration with Giroud has always been his lack of pace which i feel to an extend hinders other players in the team (not too much though). Having a striker with pace means that we can be better in the counter and also open up defences with split passes from our playmakers.

    Many a times when we play with Giroud who to be fair is not that bad but as a main striker i’m not keen on; we seem to build up very slow and most times we lose possession. That goal Welbeck scored over the weekend was due to movement, pace and good finishing as well.

    I don’t think we should park Giroud but i personally enjoy having the pace of Welbeck upfront