Uberpositives vs Shalackings

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So after Pedro posted about his Dortmund exploits – including some pretty racey pictures of German sausage – I’m back to have another go after Wednesday’s post (meltdown).

Now that the pain of Tuesday night is a little less fresh in the memory and the wound that is Arsenal’s season has started to scab, I was going to try and offer some perspective.

At least that was the case until I read that we are in for Lassana Diarra. And here is exactly why being an Arsenal fan is such a headfuck:

1. I’d be delighted if we signed Diarra because we desperately need a player like him at DM;
2. I’d be furious with the manager because it’s something he could and should have sorted in the summer rather than waiting until it has cost us points in the league and CL;
3. I kind of hope this is just paper talk because if true it absolutely beggars belief.

So there you have it – delight and fury from the same piece of news, while simultaneously hoping that it is and isn’t true. It’s Kaiser Soze levels of banter from Arsenal there’s no other way of looking at it.

In other news the div brigade have been on at Pedro for exactly what I highlighted in my post on Wednesday:

‘U SAID WE SHOULD GET MOYES OR COYLE TO REPLACE VENGA. U NO NUFFINK’

Well yeah but he also said Klopp, LVG or Guardiola would do a better job and that Moyes and Coyle were ‘curve balls’ who at the time were pretty much universally regarded as promising young managers. And lest we forget it IS possible for people to make mistakes in football.

Arsene thought Almunia, Traore, Squillaci. Silvestre, Santos, Bischoff, Denilson, Diawara, Chamakh and Park were all good enough to play for Arsenal. That’s a whole team of wrong right there.

What’s so offensive about highlighting errors in exactly the way I have just done is it’s an argument against taking a risk, against the unknown. It’s saying don’t imagine that things could ever be better, just be happy with things as they are – and don’t EVER question it. It’s all a bit 1984 to be honest (not to massively overdramatise football or anything).

Certainly when you encounter some of the überpositives online (I’ve never met one in the stadium) they always seem one or two tweets away from drinking the kool-aid.

But slowly, as the piss-poor performances continue to rack up, their excuses are becoming more and more feeble.

First it was stadium debt, then it was competing with oil-rich clubs, then it was treacherous players who left us in the lurch, now it’s about showing respect to a man who has done so much for the club.

While there’s an element if truth in all these points, there’s always a reason not to criticise – and demanding someone be beyond criticism out of ‘respect’ is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

I do respect Arsene Wenger but I don’t think he can cut it with the very best anymore which is what we should demand for a club of our stature.

Another fun thing I tried to do yesterday is recount all the maulings and ridiculous comebacks we’ve suffered as a club over the last few years (since 2008 when things really started to go wrong). Here’s my list, let me know if I’ve missed any:

Maulings:

Chelsea (prem) 6-0
Everton (prem) 3-0
City (prem) 6-3
Liverpool (prem) 5-1
United (prem) 8-2
Milan (CL) 4-0
Barcelona (CL) 4-1
United (CL) 3-1
Tottenham (CC) 5-1

Ridiculous comebacks:

West Brom (prem) 3-2
Tottenham (prem) 3-2
Newcastle (prem) 4-4
Tottenham (prem) 4-4
Birmingham (prem) 2-2

Now ask yourself which other top teams have racked up as many shalackings or hilarious collapses as Arsenal have in recent years? Every team will have one or two but none with a list as impressive as ours.

What’s the point I’m trying to make here? I don’t know really, probably that we are just not as good as we think we are. And out of all those results listed above, players have changed, formations have changed and backroom staff have changed. The one thing that has remained constant is the manager.

But you know that’s where we are at at the moment, it can’t be changed. Let’s look at what can be changed ahead of Villa on Saturday.

First and foremost the formation. I read a great article that said the reason we have moved to 4-1-4-1 is to accommodate Wilshere. Rather than a double pivot of Ramsey and Arteta with Özil at number 10, we now have a single pivot of Arteta (ie more ground for him to cover) with Ramsey and Wilshere both helping out in defence and attack (box to box), without either seeming to know who is the defendy one and who is the attacky one. Meanwhile our best no10, Özil, is shunted out wide.

So the problem with this formation is that it doesn’t suit Özil, Ramsey, Arteta or Wilshere himself. I’d advocate going back to the old formation but who knows, maybe it will click soon.

In terms of the opposition, Villa seem to be better this season but I don’t know or really care why. We just have to start winning games and quickly.

Before I go huge congratulations to Scotland for voting No last night. I had serious concerns about what it would mean for Scottish players like Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey and our imports of bagpipes and Iron Bru but I get the feeling everything is going to be alright.

I’ll be back tomorrow with a better preview of the Villa game. Let me know your thoughts in the comments – and also can someone explain who Oswald is?

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  1. tunnygriffboy

    Glad that Wenger came out in support of Ozil today. I hope we do as well as fans. He’s getting shitcaned from everywhere, by every pundit imaginable. Hope he has a good game tomorrow #teamozil 🙂

  2. BacaryisGone

    Cesc,

    Going back to your earlier comment about my criticism of Pedro/Alex…

    The issue I have is that if you have a popular blog and a significant amount of your time is spent on critiquing the manager and his decisions along with making your own suggestions on how he could do better, it’s obvious to me that you should be prepared to be critiqued yourself if some of your suggestions prove to have been faulty (eg. Coyle/Moyes and certain players).

    Absolutely no need to be thick-skinned when criticism flies your way!

  3. salparadisenyc

    None of this adds up.

    Upwards of £207.9m in the bank and reportedly debating singing Diarra on a free because our other holding midfielders seem to of gotten quite poor in the 3 weeks that have passed since the window was open. Wenger saying he’d of only signed Welbeck on a loan move, confidence booster if their ever was one. Then saying the team lacks a bit of the physicality it had back in the days of Vieira, yet passed on signing anyone. Not to mention more defenders going out than brought in = thin on numbers which I think we’ve yet to see the full consequences of… not to paint the devil on the wall.

    Not that it ever has added up since our turning point back in the mid 2000s.
    No the Emirates is not a proper excuse any more and if you think so.. I promise Oswald with teleport highlander style and dispatch with certainty.

  4. Dissenter

    Platini is a dick head.

    He has said that he’s not returning the £16 k wrist watch that he got as a “gift” during the world cup in Brazil.

    “I’m a well educated person. I don’t return gifts”
    “if FIFA ethics committee was not pleased, they should have told us 4 months ago”
    Doesn’t he know that Ethics committee can take some time before reviewing all the conflicting interests.

    What a moron.

  5. BacaryisGone

    Arsene’s Nurse.

    It also doesn’t take into account the approx 50 million net we spent on new players and salaries.

    It still leaves us with plenty of money to have picked up a new DM and quality back-up CB….

  6. Cesc Appeal

    BiG

    I think everyone makes bad calls.

    But what I see frequently to be honest is people excusing Wenger’s enormous faux pas and then when someone like Pedro for example points it out he’s then told “shut up you thought Moyes would be good for us.”

    That’s a bit annoying really. If someone is just pointing it out then fine, but when it’s used as a way to try and diminish any point you’re making about a baffling Wenger decision it’s pretty weak and really just shows what a limp hand you have in defence.

  7. Cesc Appeal

    Wenger has essentially as I said as soon as the transfer window shut ended any hope of a major honour or being contenders even this year.

    Squad is totally unbalanced, lacks power, strength, leadership and presence. Lacks quality in some areas, quantity in others.

    Something very, very wrong with this team and it’s Wenger dicking about with the structure to get Ramsey and Wilshere out there together.

    As a manager he’s too old now, too stuck in his ways, too stubborn, too blinded by ego and the three year deal was a massive mistake. I’ve written us off for the next three years outside of 3rd/4th placed finishes, doesn’t make it any easier to swallow but…

  8. TitsMcgee

    Upwards of £207.9m in the bank and reportedly debating singing Diarra on a free because our other holding midfielders seem to of gotten quite poor in the 3 weeks that have passed since the window was open. Wenger saying he’d of only signed Welbeck on a loan move, confidence booster if their ever was one. Then saying the team lacks a bit of the physicality it had back in the days of Vieira, yet passed on signing anyone. Not to mention more defenders going out than brought in = thin on numbers which I think we’ve yet to see the full consequences of… not to paint the devil on the wall.”

    Good post Sal.

    Strange times.

  9. Cesc Appeal

    Tits

    So funny all the options we had in that central role during the summer…not many getting a look in are they? Despite them being reasons not to buy.

    Honestly though, poor Wenger, who could have called Arteta looking so poor and old?

  10. the Hothead

    To every mug on eavery blog or forum that claimed Wenger did not have money to spend, kindly explain how we have steadily increasd our use able cash reserves to pretty much £175m !!

    Explain that, dick heads !

  11. Cesc Appeal

    Going to be a very tough game tomorrow, particularly as we’ll see 4-1-4-1 and Arteta – I think we’ll get a draw. 1-1 or 2-2.

  12. gonsterous

    Thought I’d go down to the pub to watch the game tomorrow but everyone’s negativity has bought me down… Guess I’ll be home on the couch in just my pants!!!

  13. follow the money

    I can’t be bothered to talk about Wenger anymore. He’s boring and arrogant. I find him distasteful. We play crappy football. We get hammered by any team worth a damn. It’s all so predictable. How about trying to poach Klinsmann when Monsieur Turd’s contract is up? Klopp would be my first choice but I was impressed by Klinsmann at the world cup. He seems to have a long range vision and he knows how to execute it

  14. Cesc Appeal

    Bergkamp Wonderland Podcast:

    “We are 1-2 players away, and the right strategy away from being a top team.”

    So essentially 1-2 players and a new manager away.

  15. tunnygriffboy

    Villa have more points than they have had shots on target so far this season. 3 clean sheets though. Be tough to break down and physical. Hoping we score early as game then opens up. Be a really hard game I think.

  16. BacaryisGone

    Fair enough, Cesc. There’s no doubt that Wenger has made a couple of strategic mistakes. We all know what they are. What people fail to realize is that until recently Man City and Chelsea in particular have been able to piss hundreds of millions of pounds away on underperforming players and keep buying until a player clicks. It was just a completely lopsided battle the rest of the Premier League was fighting.

    I actually think this has changed and Arsene is rightly experiencing greater scrutiny now that the shackles are off on the financial side.

    What we do know for certain about Arsene is that he’s a stubborn SOB (and I say that with some affection). It seems to me that he has a specific list of prime targets and if he can’t get them then he won’t go for just the good option. Ironically, sometimes it causes him to panic buy because his failure to land his ‘perfect’ choice leaves us short in numbers (hence Santos and Park).

    It seems that he had his heart set on players like Suarez (who turned into Welbeck a year later than we needed a striker) and Bender (who turned into Flamini. The Frenchman was a good signing as a utility player for depth but a mistake for important games that he’s been used in).

    For me, there should have been a ruthlessness in going after a DM and back-up CB. Really no excuse for that. I can understand that when you sign a player you’re taking a 4-5 year risk in him and why take that risk on someone you are not 100% excited about? Still, to be left so thin or weak in defence and midfield after just a few games really does leave Arsene open for justified criticism.

    Again, that’s not what I was complaining about. My point was that if you’re going to sling a few arrows, don’t complain when a few come back in your direction, even if they are poorly and crudely presented!

  17. salparadisenyc

    Follow the money

    I’d opt for a different K as Klopp.
    Never will we have a former Tottenham man manage this club.
    Mutiny at the Emirates.

  18. tunnygriffboy

    We had to replace certain players this summer. I’m delighted with Sanchez and quite happy with Welbeck. However before either of those were signed we should have had a DM lined up and sorted as that was the priority.

  19. Johnty79

    Wow just came out on talksport. Arsenals wage bill is greater than Chelsea’s.

    Surely this can’t be true.

    Arsenal players on 100k plus.

    Ramsay
    Poldolski
    Schezny
    Mertzaker
    Wellbeck
    Walcott
    Sanchez

    Chelsea

    Costa
    Terry
    Cech
    Hazard
    Cesc

    Maybe it’s true…

  20. Johnty79

    Wow 166m wage bill and that doesn’t include our summer signings who are estimated to be earning 25m.

    Arsenals current wage bill is 190m at present.

    Chelsea’s is estimated at 176m.

    Unbeleivable. This shows wenger to be a complete failure.

    We have only Sanchez as a world class players. Chelsea have several.

    Only positive is Chelsea and City have a higher wage bill.

  21. Johnty79

    I meant united.

    Kick fit you beat me to the punch!

    Unbeleivable waste. People say arsenal are a well run club. I would say they have total mis management.

    We gave only 3 centre halfs no outstanding dm’s.

    30m of our wage bill is wasted. I’ve miyachi is on 50k which is unbeleivable. Diaby is over 70k aweek as his wage has gone up with inflation.

  22. kwik fit

    Todays Wengerism

    Wenger says it’s “quite sad” that some PL clubs let grass grow long to stop passing teams playing football.

  23. andy1886

    So just to confirm, Chelsea have spent less than us net over the last year, have a lower wage bill, and are favorites for the title while we struggle for fourth? Oh, and Wenger has never got close to beating Maureen either. Fantastic.

  24. Johnty79

    Scheznys wage jumped from 35k to 100k after not really excelling. Begovic at stoke is on 45k.

    The stupid arsenal board probably think

    Begovic 15m plus 12.5m in wages makes him more expensive than Schezny over 5years….but what they forget is begovic is better!

  25. Johnty79

    Wenger has no excuse now. We have had a larger wage bill than spurs for the last 15 years but have finished above them,.

    Just thought wenger gets away with it if we finish 3rd as city and United have higher wage bill.

  26. cladicus

    The one thing about having a new manager would be that certain ongoing questions would be answered, as in who is really in charge of spending what.

    Simione for me, or maybe even get Laudrup off vacation in Qatar, I really liked him at Swansea.

  27. TitsMcgee

    So funny all the options we had in that central role during the summer…not many getting a look in are they? Despite them being reasons not to buy.”

    To be honest CA I think Wenger is done regardless. Wenger fails for two main reasons.

    Frugality in the TW(Ozil and Sanchez are just two players) and no tactics.

    Even if he quipped the squad with quality he’d still get exposed vs the managers with a clue. Your only hope would be that maybe he can “out-talent” the rest of the competition like he did 10 years ago.

    Read somewhere today that LVG says that now that he has new players he will have to do a rethink on what formation he will have to play. Adaptation. What a concept.

  28. Johnty79

    Dissent a..

    It’s was reported in the mirror and sun that Schezny signed a new 100k aweek five year contact.

    If the mirror and sun were lying why didn’t arsenal sue them????

  29. Dissenter

    Chelsea have special players on 100k weekly.

    We’ve placed lots of average joes on mega salaries.

    Wenger’s Arsenal is a mess.
    It will take a new coach 2-4 yrs to clear out the bad contracts.

    We are like someone with a hoarding problem, too much money with too little sense.

  30. Frankie T

    Two ways of thinking right now.

    The first way:
    We win tomorrow and are 1 of 2 undefeated teams in the league and a half decent start on paper with a view to gaining momentum slowly and steady. Considering we’ve played the champions and a top 5 team away.

    The second way:
    We have conceded in every game we’ve played (besiktas aside) and had approximately 2 shots every game. Have a 42 million player looking like some west ham calibre foreign import, a striker who couldn’t make it at a team who finished 7th, a defensive midfielder who is shambolic, and the rest of the performances so dire that we can no longer detract away from our lack of winning by claiming “we play the best football”

    Glass half empty for me at the moment.

  31. TitsMcgee

    So just to confirm, Chelsea have spent less than us net over the last year, have a lower wage bill, and are favorites for the title while we struggle for fourth? Oh, and Wenger has never got close to beating Maureen either. Fantastic.”

    Because Chelsea rather spend their money on the top players and pay them “top dollar” while we reward just about everyone for mediocrity and have them on ridic wages.

  32. TitsMcgee

    “Given greater financial resources of certain of main competitors,remains imperative money we do commit to wages is spent efficiently”

    Doesn’t seem like it’s being spent efficiently Ivan.

  33. N5

    “N5 for all your faults I salute you….”

    Thank you, I think….I wasn’t sure I had a lot of faults but never mind.

    I’m not really sure about the Ben Affleck thing. I know you called me it one night but god knows why. All I remember is it was the funniest insult I’ve ever had and a load of them on here still call me it because of that 😀

  34. Johnty79

    Still think wellbeck is a good signing. I’d rather him then giroud….

    Sanchez wellbeck ox

    Ramsay Ozil new dm

    That midfield and upfront could challenge for the title!

  35. jwl

    Arsenal have long had enormous salary total, we are rich club and generate lots of £££, it is just Wenger and his delusion that we are poor, small club who cant compete with big boys.

    Wenger decided to turn Arsenal into a feeder club for elite teams, he’s dario gradi for premier football, and we pay large sums to rag tag group of players who can’t seem to win a game at moment.

    It is amateur hour with Wenger in charge, we are short on numbers in defense but Kos has also been suffering with hamstring issues I believe and he should be in treatment and/or being rested. Arsenal are rather ramshackle for how much money is spent on Wenger and his top, top quality squad.

  36. Dissenter

    Johnty,
    Thanks for the info.

    Still stunned.
    Our problem is no longer money. It is proper football management from the top-down.
    Gazidis: “the club is in excellent shape, both on and off the field”
    “We are well placed to deliver”

    L-I-E

  37. TitsMcgee

    It will take a new coach 2-4 yrs to clear out the bad contracts.”

    Which is why a 3 year contract extension was asinine.

    It basically hamstrings us for the 4.5-6.5 years(IF he doesn’t actually stay on longer than the three years) which will take us into what? 2019-2020?

  38. Johnty79

    The start of last season strootman was available for 12m a wise man me I think said sign him. Instead of Ozil.

    Begovic
    Strootman
    Remy

    These could of been signed for the same amount of money.

    With strootman we would have challenged for the league much stronger last season and this.

  39. Dissenter

    I used to respect Wenger’s media savviness until today.
    Publicly requesting that Ozil not be a scapegoat will actually draw the criticism on him. Wenger just put his square in the cross hair.

  40. Cesc Appeal

    Our “well run club.”

    Fans will cry Chelsea have a much deeper squad filled with more quality than us…with a smaller wage bill?

    Oh…but…but…oil money…Russians in Ukraine…length of grass…respect Wenger…(throws self out window before their brain explodes.)

  41. Johnty79

    We currently have a wage bill of 190m and cash reserves of 173m… One is good and one is bad.

    I think with Daniel levy in charge we would have a wage bill of 150m, more world class players and cass reserves of say 100m.

    Hard to say from a business perspective of having 173m cash reserves is a good or bad thing.

    I think I’m right in saying if kronke sold up..he is in titled to half that cash reserve that equals he’s share holding.

    Does anyone know how much we owe on the emirates? I heard it was 96m last check..we are paying the interest on the emirates at 5% but getting interest at 2% on our savings. Why don’t we pay off our morgage?

  42. cladicus

    N5,

    Do not mention the abomination that Ben Affleck imposed upon my favorite superhero. I refused to watch it based on the previews, and have not viewed it to this day.

    Dissenter,

    Glad someone else is starting to look past the #WENGEROUT and actually trying to come to terms with what the aftermath will be. My comments on it didn’t gain much traction.

  43. cladicus

    N5,

    You may actually have a shot at not being the worst Batman, as there have been some real clods play that role. Point about the role, when you decide to disguise your voice as Batman, don’t opt for throat cancer like Bale did.

  44. Arsene's Nurse

    AKB – We can’t compete with Chelsea’s oil money. They can pay players higher wages than we can even though our wage bill is higher!

    All the excuses are dropping away. We’ve been banging on for years that we can compete because we are a rich club.

  45. Dissenter

    You have to at least admire how Chelsea evolved from being 100% funded by a sugar daddy to a footballing powerhouse churning out huge revenues. They too had a plan.

    …now they can afford to get Felipe Luis (best LB in the world last year), Diego Costa (best CF in the world last year) and our own Cesc Fabregas in one transfer window.

    …and yet gave a wage bill £20 million less than ours.

    I hate Chelsea but I have to grudgingly respect the excellent management.

  46. Dissenter

    Flamini’s last ACMilan salary was 1.5 million Euros, about 25 k pounds weekly.
    We resigned him on about 65 k pounds weekly.

    That’s stupid management because no one else would have offered a player that Milan let go because he wasnt good enough that much h money.

    We played out because it was the 11th of the window and the ditherer-in-charge left the club in a bad bargaining position.

  47. Follow the money

    Dissenter I’ve been saying that for years. It’s the people behind the scenes at Chelsea that make them so good. They occasionally make blunders like Torres but they change managers like crazy and yet remain at the top. I don’t know if they have a director of football but the way they stay at the top despite so many changes suggests they have a great one

  48. Johnty79

    Forget arsenal…

    In 2015 we have

    Jurassic park 4
    The terminator
    Avengers 2
    Batman vs superman.

    I can’t see how batman vs superman can work unless batman has his suit made of 0.05% of kryptonite hence when super man comes into a 10m radius do batman his super powers are nullified making it a fair fight.

    Ps: I am not a nerd.

  49. Thank you and goodnight

    FFS when are the majority of the fans going to wake up against the Bastards running and managing our club. Christ. What an absurd waste of money and yet the Bastards let the fans think we’re skint.
    Please just fuck off Arsène. GIVE US OUR CLUB BACK

  50. cladicus

    Johnty79,

    It is generally brains that wins Batman the day. Go back and watch some superfriends. Superman and most of the others always captured by the bad guy. Cue Superman caged up with a smug ass grin on because he knew Batman was about to fuck some bad guys up.

  51. BacaryisGone

    Let’s face it-we have no idea what the individual wages per player are. Still, there is no excuse for having gaps in our squad with that high of an overall wage bill.

    Still, we can’t have it both ways. You can’t complain about Bacary leaving and then moan that our wage bill should be lower. That would have been another 120k per week to be added.

    The mistake is not finding the right balance in the team. Let’s just go with the two top players for every position theory, and we’ll use the 4-1-4-1 formation and going with Arsene’s current player preferences.

    GK: Chezzer, Ospina (we’ll give that a ‘yes’)
    RB: Debuchy, Bellerin (clearly not yet for Bellerin)
    LB: Gibbs, Monreal (not Monreal)
    CB (2): Mert, Kozzer and Chambers (Chambers still raw and missing one CB!)
    DM: Arteta, Flamini (maybe Arteta as back-up but missing one quality DM)
    CM (2): Wilshere, Ramsey, Rosicky, Diaby (no for Diaby-injuries)
    LM: Ozil, Cazorla (despite current Ozil form, it’s a yes)
    RM: Sanchez, Walcott (clearly a Yes)
    CF: Giroud, Welbeck (I’ll be generous and give a yes)

    Who does this leave? Well, the big three are Oxlade-Chamberlain, Podolski and Campbell. All of whom play in attacking positions. The other players listed in the first team squad are Sanogo, Gnabry, Coquelin and Zelalem who are all in need of a move or experience.

    I love Oxlade-Chamberlain and would actually make him a continual starter in the team, even in a central position if necessary, so he should have either been put in a CM role alongside Ramsey, Wilshere and Rosicky or wide left instead of Cazorla. But even if you just keep Oxlade as a multi-purpose squadplayer, it still would have easily been possible to do offload Podolski and Campbell (who won’t get playing time anyway) and strengthen our DM and CB positions. Heck, I would even have taken a few lumps early on to have Ox try the DM role at the expense of Arteta or Flamini. At least we’ll have pace and positivity in the position, even if he’ll make some mistakes.

    It really was blindingly obvious. I’m still trying to figure out what happened ….

  52. Cesc Appeal

    Norfolk

    I believe you’re right.

    I believe we’re now on a fixed repayment scheme of so much a year until the remaining balance is gone. It’s not THAT much left now I don’t think, not in the grand scheme of things.

    Today is another nail in the Wenger coffin for me, need to find room though for another one. Masses of cash still and a wage budget that has surpassed Chelsea’s – we really don’t have anything to show for it. Lacking quality and quantity in defence, midfield AND striker…poor show from everybody at the club.

    Gazidis has to have the finger of blame pointed at him because he’s allowing this as well. Kroenke seems very much hands off (should say I don’t like him and want him out) but Ivan should start to make more of a stand.

    This is where I feel the lack of a football man at board level is hurting us. Who’s asking those sorts of questions, comparing Chelsea’s squads and ours and asking how on Earth our wage expenditure is higher?!

  53. Cesc Appeal

    BiG

    No one is moaning that our wage bill should be lower!

    People are correctly asking why on Earth it is so high. Compare our squads to Chelsea’s – they flatten us yet have a lower wage budget.

    The mismanagement at Arsenal is negligence of the highest order. Why is Wenger allowed to do this stuff unchecked by anybody. Astounding.

  54. Dissenter

    Arsenal FC

    Cash Rich to the tune of £207 million

    Football poor, depending on the know-how of a 65 year old unmotivated ditherer-in-charge who’s living out his retirement for the next 3 years.

  55. salparadisenyc

    Touching on what Cesc just said, the Wage bill is interesting indeed. I’m pleased were spending the money, but yes its the mismanagement of it thats telling considering the quality in Chelsea’s side, yet their behind us overall.

    We have Flamini and Diaby purportedly making 65k a week, not sure I need to touch on that considering a player like Carvalho is on 5k with Sporting and could be signed for around 50k a week along with transfer fee. Thus making both of em a surplus to requirements at half the cost.

    Podolski on 100k whom has been shunted so far down the pecking order he doesn’t seem to bother bringing his shin pads to the bench. I like the player, Wenger clearly does not. Should of sold him to Juve.

    Joel Campbell now on the books whom looks to be in the same situation as Poldi, why was he not sent out on loan or better sold for profit on heals of some world cup publicity. I was all for selling.

    Coq whom will likely never appear for the club again unless the shit really hits the fan, and it may. On playing front he could not land a role with Freiburg whom nearly got relegated in the Bundesliga.

    Then you see a side like Dortmund whom are on half our overall wage bill destroy our bloated carcass’s up and down the pitch.

  56. Cesc Appeal

    Sal

    That’s why I’d love a real bastard of a DoF who know his stuff and won’t be intimidated by Wenger and who’ll recognise he’s his partner in football decisions and boss when it comes to financial decisions.

  57. salparadisenyc

    Cesc,
    I’d prefer Klopp to a director of football and sustaining Wenger’s tenure further. Make some big, inevitable decisions now. Put the DOF money into Reus’s signing bonus. Use some of that lovely bank balance into canceling Wenger’s final two years on his contract. Put it in motion June 1.

  58. Thank you and goodnight

    This is what annoys me though. All this information and evidence of mismanagement is out their for any one to access if people really want the truth. But the AKB’S Bury their head in the sand and listen to the lies and the ramblings of a lunatic 65yr old and won’t be told any different…..even if it’s the bloody truth. Well here’s some truth for you….Wenger is finished as an elite manager and a very small percentage of us are beginning to wonder if it wasn’t the players who won trophies in spite of Wenger and not because of him.

  59. follow the money

    Cesc: “That’s why I’d love a real bastard of a DoF who know his stuff and won’t be intimidated by Wenger and who’ll recognise he’s his partner in football decisions and boss when it comes to financial decisions.”

    Wenger would never allow it. Any manager who was actually concerned about winning would have realized he was out of his depth in 2008 and make the required moves to address the problems. But there have been numerous long running problems with the team since Dein left, and Wenger has done nothing. He is truly a dictator. Like Hitler. Won’t listen to advice. We must do what we can do drive him out. It’s beyond absurd. Protests are not the answer, but if enough blogs turn against him the pressure in the media will mount and he will eventually lose his mind. I’m very sorry it has come to this, but if he refuses to change or do everything in his power to return Arsenal to where it should be given the club’s resources then he is not fit for purpose and he deserves everything he gets

  60. follow the money

    If enough blogs turn against him (ACLF and Arseblog began to turn last season — finally) the media will stop giving him a free ride. And if he has to face enough serious questions like “Your wage bill is bigger than Chelsea’s and Dortmunds. Why do you keep getting completely outplayed by these teams?” he will eventually crack.

    I dislike Mourinho as much as the next guy but he is 100X the manager Wenger is. I think he sees Wenger as a dilettante and wants to punish him for his “style over substance” views on football. Mind you, beating us is not rocket science. We always start slow, play a bit of kick around trying to get into the game, and Mourinho obviously told his team to blitzkrieg us early last year and we would fall apart

  61. Johnty79

    Redondo in the mid naughty’s gave back his salary to ac Milan as he was always injured. I don’t see diaby doing that… People who see diaby’s legs see him as some one who should need a wheel chair. When diaby leaves arsenal he will not make it at another club as the damage us to poor.

    The sad truth is diaby should of retired in 2005 after his leg break in 2006. Diaby could of went on to be almost as good as vieira bit truth be told he didn’t show this before his injury.

    Diaby will not play for another club after he leaves arsenal. That will be a fact. But diaby isn’t all innocent I remember he also did a dangerous tackle on campos of Bolton a month or so before when we lost 1:0.

    Any way he’s had 60k a year to soften the blow. And I expect him to get a new contract.

  62. Johnty79

    Those of you may argue diaby was moth the match against Liverpool in a 2:0 win in 2012 and he was great that game. But similar to the wilshere if your body cant take the wear and tear every week you shouldn’t be a footballer. Wilshere has the mind to be a pro but not the body…same as diaby.

    Shame but time to move on.some one at the club should see this this and make the necessary decisions.

  63. andy1886

    “some guy called Diaby seems to be all over the list!”
    Who?

    Nah, you misheard, they wrote: DRB.

    Dead Rubbish, Broken.

  64. Sally Pally

    Well I think that we’re in for a very successful season. I haven’t felt this positive about the team for 10 years or so. I remember regretting not putting a tenner on Arsenal to win the title at 25:1 early in the in 1997/98 season. There are one or two concerns with defence but Bould will sort that out like he did last year after a dodgy start. I hope none of you mind me saying that I think that this team has the most excellent midfield and front line since then. We have everything to look forward to and you are welcome to shoot me down if we don’t deliver tomorrow and over the next few games, despite a poor performance against a very excellent Dortmund. Cheer up people, it may turn out really well this year, I think it will.

  65. N5

    Sally I admire your optimism, but we’ve only had one win so far in 5 games so it will be a turtle/hare race if were going to have any success.

  66. Norfolk

    Nice sentiment Sally.
    Trouble is, Boult doesn’t appear to have any control whatsoever.
    I get the feeling AW has told him to sit down and act calm whatever happens.
    Great Player though.

    I think we need a management change and get someone in with a bit of spine who might put the fear in the slackers.

    Souness would do for me in that regard.

  67. babatunde

    I have been saying for years that arsenal are not a wage efficient club and chelsea have become the best run club in england. Also bacaryisgone, if we kept sagna our wage INCREASE won’t be 120k a week but rather 120k- 70k of debuchy. Which is just 2.5m extra a year. Our wage bill is inefficient not because of people like sagna but because of the mediocre players we pay high wasges too. The only people at arsenal that will get comparable wages at any big club are ozil, sanchez, and ramsey. Maybe walcott. Barca, madrid and bayern won’t pay any of our average stars the wages we pay them

  68. babatunde

    We should have bought fabregas back. Only 30m. Play ramsey at dmf if necessary. Ramsey, fab, ozil. Ramsey is energetic and a good passer and makes tackles. Fabregas would have torn up the league for us even with the donkey that is welbeck in front.

  69. andy1886

    Sally, if you believe that the midfield and front line is the best we’ve had since 97/98 then you obviously missed out on seeing Pires, Gilberto, Vieira, Ljungberg, Bergkamp and Henry, aka The Invincibles.

    If you really are convinced I’d get down to the bookies pronto.

  70. Cesc Appeal

    “you are welcome to shoot me down if we don’t deliver tomorrow and over the next few games”

    Win, lose or draw tomorrow I think a lot of people’s minds are made up. Based on history, based on Wenger’s repeated failings, based on the fact the same weakness and mistakes are surfacing again already this year we’re done as a club that fights for top honours, that even comes close to them.

    Is not happening.

    Really is best to just accept our station in the football world now until we get a new manage. And even then that’s a maybe because it depends who they bring in, whether Wenger is involved in the process/if he stays on at board level. *shudders*

  71. Sally Pally

    Fair play to you, dear N5. I was ranting and raving after the Dortmund game and almost spilled my rum. But however I look at it this year, I see a whole load of positives compared to the last few years. Can you see a midfield in Europe that would compare to ours except a fully fit Bayern, maybe? Chelsea may be the media darlings just now but they aren’t even close to us in midfield far as I can see. We have so many match-winning players there. There are 7 or 8 of them who can score lots of goals together. City have more-or-less remained static. I do honestly believe that once this team gels properly, we are going to be in for a feast of football. A barn-storming start to the season often fizzles out, as it has for us so may times recently. We may be hares at the start but we will get better and better. I would love you to share the bosom of my joy because when we turn a new corner, we will be sweep stake winners. You do well to be reticent but I think that now may be the time to have faith. God bless to you and to you all x

  72. N5

    Sally, I think the Dortmund match was the turning point for me. I’ve always been an optimist to almost insane proportions, for example when we were 4 or 5 nil down to Manure, I still was thinking, we’ll come back a la Newcastle on our 4-4 draw with them.

    But Dortmund really showed off how out of touch we are at the moment. We can’t handle the teams that press hard and without proper balance in our midfield, this isn’t going to change.

    I agree we have a great midfield, but trying to accommodate Jack and Aaron at the same time seems to be undoing any good work we had built. Also, as much as I love the guy Arteta needs to be replaced, he’s just to slow.

    I’m not a religious guy Sally, but god bless you too because that was one of the friendliest sign off’s I’ve ever seen on here. Welcome to the comments section.

    Don’t let anything put you off posting here as it can be a little overwhelming at times.

  73. Bamford13

    From what I’ve read, Wenger’s net spend took £46m out of the £173.3m cash balance, leaving the club with a £127m balance.

    £127 million in cash reserves.

    That is massive and left plenty of room not only for a quality CDM but a quality CF as well.

    On top of this our wages are higher than Chelsea’s.

    Enough is enough. Wenger out.

  74. Bamford13

    Sally

    You’re clearly religious as only the religious place faith in things for which there is no evidence. There is no evidence at this point that we will even be good this year, much less great, given the shabby performances we’ve seen thus far.

    Maybe you could argue we played decently against City, but even then we looked shabby defensively.

    The team has looked inadequate so far, and was inadequate all last season.

    Aside from blind faith, there is no reason to believe this side is going to do all that much. We’ll be fortunate to finish fourth.

  75. tunnygriffboy

    Sally Pally

    Your two posts today have been the only two posts on here that have been remotely positive. I doff my cap to you and sincerely hope you are right. 🙂 🙂 🙂

  76. salparadisenyc

    Sally

    Lets be real.

    “Can you see a midfield in Europe that would compare to ours except a fully fit Bayern, maybe? ”

    Chelsea, City, Madrid, Barca and Dortmund. Based on current performance one could list several other sides if were honest.

  77. tunnygriffboy

    BiG

    Apologies, you’ve managed to be positive today as well. Otherwise it’s a very grumpy LG, more than normal 🙂 🙂

  78. tunnygriffboy

    N5

    I read everyday but today has been a real grind. I understand the frustration and anger but today, wow, I had to go and rub salt in my eyes for some light relief 🙂 🙂 🙂

  79. N5

    Lol Tunny, to be honest I zoned out of most of it. I had a little moan (well not so much moan, more of a showing concern) about Ozil earlier. But the wage bit and the long grass bit, really got up peoples noses didn’t it.

    Le Goth.

  80. babatunde

    I am very religious and I don’t believe a word of sally’s posts. We have the best midfield in europe?. Really?. Wow.

  81. tunnygriffboy

    Ozils first 14 PL games

    4 goals 7 assists 38 chances created

    Ozils last 14 PL games

    1 goal 2 assists 38 chances created

    That’s hell of a lot of chances that aren’t being buried.

  82. Bamford13

    baba

    That just means you’re not religious when it comes to Arsenal — i.e., you’re rational and reasonable when it comes to Arsenal. This Sally character is one of these religious nuts — and Wenger is his infallible Pope.

  83. Bamford13

    Given Ramsey and Ozil are playing like dogshit, and given that Arteta is dogshit, claiming we have one of the best midfields in Europe is downright moronic.

    All of the following have better midfields than Arsenal at the moment:

    Atletico Madrid
    Real Madrid
    Barcelona
    Bayern Munich
    Dortmund
    City
    Chelsea
    United
    Juventus
    Roma

    And that’s just the start …

  84. N5

    Bamford, please be mindful its Sallys first time posting on here, let’s not scare them off before they start by calling them moronic and a religious nut as we no nothing about them to make such assumption.

  85. BacaryisGone

    Here are the odds on Lassana Diarra rejoining Arsenal….

    Diarra interview from 2009:

    “I didn’t learn anything from Wenger,” he said. “All he taught me was how to doubt myself, how to doubt everything. Wenger never said a word to me until the day I left. He spoke to the others but not with me.”

    The departure from Arsenal of Diarra in January 2008 shocked many Arsenal supporters, particularly as Mathieu Flamini was running down his contract and threatening to leave Wenger with limited options in central midfield.

    Diarra, though, moved to Portsmouth and went to win the FA Cup last season before moving to Real Madrid, the world’s richest club.

    He previously played for Chelsea and, although he also struggled for regular first-team football at Stamford Bridge, he regarded his relationship with Jose Mourinho as more productive.

    “I played only fifteen games and I did not have a good relationship with him [Wenger],” said Diarra. “I respect the way he coaches but I learnt more with Mourinho. He looked me in the eyes when he talked to me. Mourinho showed me how to fight. If he had any problem, we discussed it. I feel like I never played at Arsenal. If people don’t remind me of that fact, I just forget it. It has been wiped from my mind.”

    Those are the odds.

  86. Cesc Appeal

    Wait hold on…we’re NOT scaring people…right can people make up their minds.

    I just spent half an hour sharpening my pitchfork, covering numerous torches in pitch before lighting them and distributing them to angry townsfolk SPECIFICALLY to scare people off.

  87. tunnygriffboy

    N5

    Pass on last 5 games. They were from last seasons games. It very early in the seeason. His open letter was interesting. One of the points he made was that it will take a bit of time to learn Sanchez and Welbeck’s runs and movement and that they not had great a ount of time to work on it due to WC and fact we played twice a week from start of season. He thinks it will come right.

  88. N5

    tunny, I’m such a huge Ozil fan that I can’t wait to see the old Ozil back. He’s such a great player who is just lying dormant at the moment.

    Cesc, put the fork down until at least their 4th post.

  89. follow the money

    Diarra one of the smart ones who got out. I apologize (somewhat) for my negativity today. I’ve been fuming over shortfalls in the squad since 2008 sometimes I lose patience. However, I think we are headed in the right directions, blog wise. I’ve been seeing more and more blogs basically accept the idea that we will never challenge for top honours again until Wenger leaves. That’s progress, and when there is none on the pitch we have to take what we can get

  90. Cesc Appeal

    N5

    Right, fine.

    But you owe me a victim to burn at the stake now and jab with my pitchfork whilst going “naaaaaah….naaaaah.”

  91. N5

    Cesc, honestly, I’ll light the flame, but I like to lure new posters into a false sense of security!

    Come in, come in, the grove is the most friendly place online!!

    Yes, I agree, yes best midfield, yes we’ll win stuff, what’s that behind you,

    *donnnnngggg (sound of a spade rebounding off skull)

    Light the fire Cesc, we have another deluded soul to offer up to Stan Kronkunt

    Naaaah naaaaah

  92. Cesc Appeal

    N5

    Yes! YES!

    And Untold launches an investigation into their dwindling numbers…but of course put it down to the oil rich clubs buying all their visitors.

    It’s literally the perfect plan.

  93. salparadisenyc

    Boys I’d hazard a guess that Sally Pally been supporting this club for quite some time. Them views may be south of Uranus’s moon but that does not condone the bullshit Bamford slung his way.

  94. N5

    Sal, sally (unlike sal) is a female name here, so I’d hazard a guess it’s a she and I agree that’s why I said to Bamford lets not scare them off before they start, but it looks like it did.

  95. Cesc Appeal

    N5

    Okay cool.

    I’ll try not to ruin the flesh too much with the impact.

    But hang the skin up after you use it in a cool dry place that way you can get multiple uses out of it.

  96. salparadisenyc

    Thanks N5, having lived in both England and the US of A I got that. Yes Sally is a female name. But I wager a pint Sally Pally is a male.

    Sally?