Squad gaps obvious, but will Wenger fill them?

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I didn’t get to watch the Arsenal game last night, so won’t weigh in on it too hard. Firstly, it’s a preseason, secondly, we have a lot of top players missing.

It was the Thierry show before and after. I find it all a bit boring. Time to move on, he’s a legend, I love him, but it’s always the Thierry show whenever he’s involved and it a gets a bit narcissistic in my opinion.

Anyway, things we know. We’re desperately short at the back and we need a couple of centre backs (maybe one now). We also seem pretty short up top. Outside Giroud and Sanchez, we’re really lacking in quality. One of those picks up a standard injury, we really are in a world of crap. I think Arsene has opted for front three flexibility over an out and out specialist. Not sure how that’ll pan out to be honest. I think I’d feel at least 48% more confident with a Thierry in my team. Even if it wasn’t a Thierry, I’d take a Mario.

Diaby is back and fit. He’s a good player, but don’t get your hopes up. 30 games out of him this year would be magic. It’ll also be interesting to see how Shad deals with him. He’ll have a proper programme in place for him this year I’m sure. I’m also interested to see what Wenger does with Gnabry, I don’t think we’ll see him out on loan. I’ve also been told that Chambers is more for centre back cover than he is for right back. That’ll mean Jenks could be ok the way out and Bellerin could be the cover for him. A lot of youth there. Exciting or terrifying, however you want to interpret.

On the outgoing front, there could still be some exits. If bids come in for Lukas, Cazorla or as I said earlier, Jenks, expect to see them seriously considered. All players are welcome to the squad, but have their flaws and two of them are super expensive.

So next up is the Emirates cup in an very short preseason burst. Then we go, for some unknown reason, to Austria. Wenger moans about NYC which is good for the clubs bottom line and it’s fun for the players… yet he sanctions substandard Austria when London would be far more suitable. Must be a bakery he really likes there or something.

Right, have a majestical day and don’t get too upset about NYC. It’s just a preseason and we’re struggling because of all the World Cup winners we don’t have with the side!

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  1. london gunner

    goonpharm2

    Oh and they have one of the best keepers in the world who makes match winning saves

    And an extremely experienced and one of the previous best goal keepers in the world in cech.

  2. goonpharm2

    London – yes I agree that he missed chances. Look the best front men last year were (IMO) Suarez, Strurridge and Aguero and I have seen them miss at least 2 chances a game. The difference between them and Giroud is they don’t worry because they know the next chance is probably five minutes away. Whereas with us we’ll probably create 2 clear chances in 90 minutes. That is huge pressure. The last striker I remember that I have seen in this league with that kind of conversion rate is probably Van Nistelroy.

    Believe it or not I am not defending Giroud but trying to illustrate that even if we had Pele up top he would struggle as our midfield is so inefficient at chance creation. Ramsey skewed the stats by having a ridiculous season and it covered the cracks in our squad. We have 6 foot plus demon up top yet NO ONE in our squad can accurately put a cross in for him. Then why play him?

    There is a tactical imbalance in our whole set up and we need more drilling in terms of team shape. It’s not a talent or abiltiy thing but more poor instruction from the bench. We have no plan B, we have no adjustment mid game and we plod along with the same set up every time.

    There are far worse players in the league than Arteta and Giroud and they don’t play in teams that get hammered on a regular basis. Hell Pullis managed to get Chamakh in the groove!!!!!!!!

    Maybe that is the answer?

    #SIGNPULLISUP!!!!

  3. WengerEagle

    ‘Believe it or not I am not defending Giroud but trying to illustrate that even if we had Pele up top he would struggle as our midfield is so inefficient at chance creation’

    Honestly can’t believe what I’m reading. Ozil and Cazorla alone created a combined 5.1 chances per game last season.

  4. Ozy

    Listen, Eagle, as I stated from my very first comment … they’re not inspiring signings. They’re not adding anything to the team. One is a back up and the other is an inconsistent RB. That’s the general consensus of every Newcastle fan. Did you see any of them too bothered that he left?

    As for what the others are doing, I’ve criticized Man U for their signings. Fernando, Mangala, Diego Costa are all players that were available and better than what we have and what the clubs that bought them have. Of COURSE there will always be somebody better but it’s about who is available and if who we get is the very best player in that position that we could have realistically gotten. Ospina and Debuchy are that? I don’t think so.

    Like I already said, Ospina, for a back up, is a good signing – better than Fabianski. You think he’s going to compete for the Number 1 jersey? You actually think he’s going to bring the best out of Szczesny? No.

    And since we’re talking about Aurier and you’re so happy and ecstatic about the signing of Chambers, you do realize we could’ve gotten Aurier for probably half of what we’re supposedly buying Chambers for, right? And Aurier is far more experienced and has played far, far more than 25 senior games, and has played at CB and RM plenty of times in his career, right? But no. Chambers is the best we could’ve gotten. Give it a rest, dude.

  5. Nasri's Mouth

    I’m almost as curious to see how Costa does for Chelsea as I am to see how Sanchez does for us. If Costa doesn’t score a hat full for Chelsea the pressure is really on. He’s an excellent player, but Chelsea are going to have to play to his strengths.

  6. Rocky Pires

    Mathieu used to be a hot headed rash changeling Left Back and Left Midfielder surprised to hear he became a CB, to my mind he was way too headless to do so.

    As regards our opponent if we buy Sami K, nobody will touch us for the EPL.
    Citeh are best option but Nasri wont have aseason like last, Yaya is not sorted out, Silva looks disinterested, Aguero is struglling to stay fit.
    Still think they are currently the best team and squad with a great manager.

    Chelski I can actually see the Drogba and Terrry axis blowing up on Jose.
    I can see Abromovich taking two boys aside saying lads I want ye to manage the club. Jose will get the hump as its alot of changes and Abro still wants good footbal thus Cesc signing.
    Integrating Oscar, Schurlr and Hazard and Willian wont b easy either and the Costa/Drogba – maybe torres are too many big egos to succeed.
    the Cech V Courtouis is going to be another breaker, who does Jose side with the oldguard or then “newbies”?

    Utd will do well under Van Gaal – 3rd place I would say.

    Pool are gone, bought poorly, players like Henderson Sturridge and Cutinho wont have seasons like last.
    Defense is piss poor , goalie very average, Gerrard as he might try can no longer pull that team up the league.

    Newcastle will be in and around top 5 and Everton if they get a real striker and Stones is as good as people say will be tough opposition.

    1 Citeh/Arsenal
    2 as above
    3 Utd
    4 Chelski/Everton
    5 Newcastle

  7. Nasri's Mouth

    @Ozy

    Given that Aurier seemed desperate to come to us, and we actually spent more on his position, why do you think Wenger didn’t sign him?

  8. goonpharm2

    Wenger Eagle –

    I hope that’s an average through the season as there is no way we created more than 2 chances in 90 minutes against any of the big 5 teams. No way.

    Unless I was watching a different team.

  9. goonpharm2

    Wenger Eagle –

    Do you believe that we created 5 chances in the
    5-1 Pool thrashing?
    6-0 Chelsea mauling?
    3-0 Everton humiliation?

    The City game was a weird one, probably could have ended 6-6 on another day.

  10. Mayank

    What’s all this about substandard conditions in Austria?

    I used to believe we went there for altitude training and because the grass is pristine. I’m sure Wenger wouldn’t like going there if it weren’t for some advantage either physically or psychologically.

  11. Toli83

    I actually think Costa suits Chelsea’s style of play, a bully boy up top who is happy to be the target man and not rely on runs behind would suit both parties.

    Despite his critics I think he will do well there.

    If anything it could be the ego’s and c*nt of a manager that could ironically ruin it for them. I’m worried about Giroud in the big games for us, hopefully Sanchez through the middle versus the big boys.

    Gnarby was quality in spells last year, seems to be the forgotten man now?

  12. WengerEagle

    ‘One is a back up and the other is an inconsistent RB. That’s the general consensus of every Newcastle fan. Did you see any of them too bothered that he left?’

    You’re talking as if it’s September 1st ffs. I’ll join you if by then that’s the case but we’re still in July so your whinging doesn’t make sense as of now.

    I didn’t know that you had the ear of every Newcastle supporter, must be nice that.

    ‘As for what the others are doing, I’ve criticized Man U for their signings. Fernando, Mangala, Diego Costa are all players that were available and better than what we have and what the clubs that bought them have. Of course there will always be somebody better but it’s about who is available and if who we get is The very best player in that position that we could have realistically gotten. Ospina and Debuchy are that? I don’t think so.’

    Lol Debuchy was available and better than what we had at RB though! He’s an improvement on Jenkinson wouldn’t you agree?

    Fernando is not the best realistic CDM that City could have got, Mangala certainly isn’t the best realistic CB that they could have got and Cavani and Falcao are both better strikers than Costa.

    Ospina isn’t and who is? Rene Adler? Hahaha.

    ‘You actually think he’s going to bring the best out of Szczesny? No.’

    Fabianski certainly did and like you yourself even said Ospina > Fabianski.

    ‘And since we’re talking about Aurier and you’re so happy and ecstatic about the signing of Chambers, you do realize we could’ve gotten Aurier for probably half of what we’re supposedly buying Chambers for, right? And Aurier is far more experienced and has played far, far more than 25 senior games, and has played at CB and RM plenty of times in his career, right? But no. Chambers is the best we could’ve gotten. Give it a rest, dude.’

    Happy and ecstatic about Chambers? Again you’re spouting bollocks here, I said that he was a good signing for the future and as a utility player for now, I’m not going to cartwheel in the fucking street at the prospect of him signing. He’s 6 foot so his future is probably in the centre of defence like Phil Jones for United.

    And when did I say that Chambers is the best we could have gotten? More lies and bollocks.

  13. Cesc Appeal

    Anyone seen Torres’ miss…wow.

    And that youngster for City scored again, who is this kid? Weird name, don’t want to google it but ya’ll know who I mean….yes, ya’ll

  14. goonpharm2

    Pre season is probably the hardest part of a players season – especially if you’re Jacky boy and being puffing 20 Lamberts a day. Probably a good idea to take them up a mountain in Austria away from any temptation and distractions.

    Either that or Wenger has shares in hotels there. Doesn’t he own a chalet or three up there? I’m sure he flew Ramsey and his parents up there to woo him….

  15. Nasri's Mouth

    @Mayank

    My guess is it’s a lack of distractions.

    I doubt the grass or the facilities are any better and I don’t think they train at altitude either

  16. WengerEagle

    goonpharm

    Mate we scored twice against Liverpool at the Emirates and 3 times against City at the Etihad.

    The 0-0 draw with Chelsea at the Emirates sticks out in particular in mind when Giroud squandered two easy chances to give us a much needed 3 points. He’s a terrible finisher make no mistake about it.

    Those 3 hammerings were just all round catastrophies from every playing and managing perspective, I wouldn’t use them as evidence tbh.

  17. Ozy

    “Lol Debuchy was available and better than what we had at RB though! He’s an improvement on Jenkinson wouldn’t you agree?”

    Jenkinson was our only RB. By that argument, any RB from here to the Chinese league would have been better than what we had. (obvious exaggeration – don’t want you going off on a tangent on that).

    I don’t know why we’re disputing what players other teams have gone for. We’re playing Diaby and Coquelin in pre-season games when Man City bought Fernando for peanuts. Mangala is a great CB. Idk why we’re even discussing this. Obviously there will be better players but that doesn’t dictate what makes a good signing. There are clubs who have their hearts set out for certain players. Mangala has been on Man City’s radar for a while. I’m done talking about this because it literally adds nothing to this discussion.

    I never said our transfer window is done. We can still sign the players that will improve our team and if we do, I won’t be too bothered by Ospina and Debuchy. All I’m saying is they’re nothing to write home about. They’re average.

    You honestly think Fab brought out the best in Szczeny? Then again, you did say a few comments ago that he was fantastic last season so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

    NM, I’m not sure why. Idk what goes on in Wenger’s head. Maybe cause he is a bit error prone defensively or maybe because he’s not BP experienced? Maybe the whole African Cup issue? Who knows? He would’ve been a far better signing than Chambers, that’s for sure.

  18. Wengers Plastic Bottle

    I just saw that BT advert, what a piss take.

    Glad I never purchased BT

    Why all the hate on Arsenal?

  19. london gunner

    WE

    “I won’t be too bothered by Ospina and Debuchy. All I’m saying is they’re nothing to write home about. They’re average”

    To be fair as unbiased neutral observer between you and Ozy you can’t argue with that statement

  20. Nasri's Mouth

    @Ozy

    I haven’t seen much of Aurier, from what I saw of him during the WC I was suspicious of him in an Arsenal shirt defensively, esp. given the way we play, but then I also know that if you purely go off WC performances, you wouldn’t spend more than about 50p on Diego Costa.

    I haven’t seen much of Chambers either, and I have no idea what their ceilings are so if I said either one was a better option for the future.

    But if Wenger is prepared to spend ~50% more on Chambers (and I absolutely guarantee he’s watched both players more intently than both of us) then I’d say he knows what he’s doing

  21. goonpharm2

    So Wenger Eagle we haven’t created 5 chances in those games have we?

    My point is our chance creation is a worry. Our defensive shape and discipline is a worry. Our inability to control the midfield is a worry. Girouds finishing is an issue but it’s the tip of the iceberg.

    Making Giroud and Arteta scapegoats covers Wengers incompetencies. That’s something I can’t do.

  22. Mayank

    “My guess is it’s a lack of distractions.”

    Then it must be that. It’s a weak argument to suggest Wenger’s taking them to poorer condition just because he likes the place.

  23. WengerEagle

    Ozy

    The Jenkinson comment was sarcastic. The point is we lost Sagna and got in a suitable replacement in Debuchy.

    Mangala isn’t a great CB, get out of here. He’s yet to do anything outside of the horrendous Portuguese league.

    Fernando’s a good player but he’s hardly the best available CDM out there. If we had bought him then people would be whinging on here about why we weren’t in for a better player.

    ‘I never said our transfer window is done. We can still sign the players that will improve our team and if we do, I won’t be too bothered by Ospina and Debuchy. All I’m saying is they’re nothing to write home about. They’re average.’

    No-ones gripping the table in excitement or anything with these two players but they are two solid signings, one is an improvement on our back-up GK from last season and the other is a decent replacement for our starting RB last year. Why does every signing we make have to blow your socks off? If we go big on a CDM and sign a forward we’re in great shape for next season.

    ‘You honestly think Fab brought out the best in Szczeny? Then again, you did say a few comments ago that he was fantastic last season so you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.’

    Yeah the GK who won the BPL Golden Glove wasn’t fantastic last season. What are you talking about?

    Then again you rate Rene Adler so that explains it.

  24. Ozy

    NM, you’re right about that. There had to have been something to turn him off Aurier. Maybe Aurier would be too much of a liability to play as a starting RB as he’s a bit raw, knowing fully well he wouldn’t have been happy on the bench, deputizing for Debuchy, having played over 70 senior games for Toulouse.

    I also had worries about how he’d play with Walcott as Walcott isn’t one to track back much and Aurier tends to rush forward. Eh, it is what it is. He might excel or bomb at PSG. I’ll have to try to keep up with his development.

  25. WengerEagle

    london gunner

    What’s the problem with Ospina as our back up GK?

    If there isn’t one what is your point?

    I’m not saying that he’s a beast or anything but he’s a good GK and an adequate back up to Szczesny.

    We’ve already talked Debuchy to death so we’ll leave that.

  26. Ozy

    You think because he had 16 clean sheets, he was spectacular? Did you watch him play? I am nervous every time he’s on the pitch. I attribute his clean sheets more to the partnership or Mert and Kosc than to him. Stop while you’re ahead.

    I don’t want signings to blow my socks off but we’re supposed to be competing for the title and the champions league yet we bought a goalkeeper from Nice and an aging Newcastle RB. Come on now.

    L

  27. Ozy

    Oops. Look eagle, we can debate here all day about who’s good and who’s bad and who’s average and who is great but we’ll just disagree. It’s been an absolute pleasure arguing with you, disregarding the insults.

    If we sign the players we need to, come September 1st, I’ll admit you were right and I was wrong. Until then, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

  28. WengerEagle

    gonnpharm

    No but we created chances. Even in the maulings to Liverpool and Chelsea before the first goal was conceded (might have been before the second one in the Liverpool match?) Giroud missed a good opportunity to take the lead/equalise.

    I agree that he’s not the sole problem but he’s a problem that needs addressing all right.

    Agree that we need to be better in midfield and in possession.

  29. Nasri's Mouth

    @Mayank

    He might ‘like’ it, but he’ll like it because it’s a good place to set the players up for the new season.

    The idea that Wenger would take players to somewhere that is detrimental to their pre-season because he’s got a nice lodge there is probably up there with the idea that we only signed Sanchez because Wenger was out of the country

  30. goonpharm2

    Chezzer was anything but fantastic last year. Golden glove or not.

    Will become a top keeper as he gets older but he’s far too immature. Doubt Wenger likes him much or else why sign a 25 year old Ospina?

  31. Nasri's Mouth

    Ozy: I also had worries about how he’d play with Walcott

    This has been suggested before, and sounds plausible to me. If we’d have turned our noses up at Aurier and brought in some unknown for £500k, then I’d have been worried, but he’s brought in France’s first choice RB and splashed £12m on a 19yr old who could play at the top level for us for 10 years.

    Meh, I don’t have an issue abut it at all.

  32. WengerEagle

    ‘You think because he had 16 clean sheets, he was spectacular? Did you watch him play? I am nervous every time he’s on the pitch. I attribute his clean sheets more to the partnership or Mert and Kosc than to him. Stop while you’re ahead.’

    Only every single match. He was excellent to anyone with a pair of functioning eyes last season, I just used his clean sheets to back up my argument. Most people on here I’m sure would be of the opinion that Szczesny had an quality season.

    This is to everyone: How did you rate Szczesny’s season?

    ‘I don’t want signings to blow my socks off but we’re supposed to be competing for the title and the champions league yet we bought a goalkeeper from Nice and an aging Newcastle RB. Come on now’

    We’ve also signed Alexis Sanchez and are still in July.

    ‘Oops. Look eagle, we can debate here all day about who’s good and who’s bad and who’s average and who is great but we’ll just disagree. It’s been an absolute pleasure arguing with you, disregarding the insults.’

    Wish I could say the same but I’m talking to a brick wall so I’ll just leave it. RE insults that was because you were making up shit on the spot and lying to back up your argument. Not cool.

    ‘If we sign the players we need to, come September 1st, I’ll admit you were right and I was wrong. Until then, we’ll just have to agree to disagree.’

    Fair enough.

  33. Nasri's Mouth

    goonpharm2: Chezzer was anything but fantastic last year.

    Really ? I’d say he was up there with the best keepers in the PL last season. Big improvement

  34. goonpharm2

    Wenger Eagle –

    So you agree with what I meant regarding Giroud not being the sole problem? And that chance creation is an issue against the big teams?

  35. WengerEagle

    ‘So you agree with what I meant regarding Giroud not being the sole problem?’

    Yes.

    ‘And that chance creation is an issue against the big teams?’

    I’d debate this.

  36. goonpharm2

    Mouth –

    Never liked the prick to be honest so my opinion will be biased. Like someone posted already, Per and Kos played supremely well against the lesser teams and kept nearly everything at bay. Hence Chezzers job was made easy.

    We all know what happens when he collapse defensively. I have yet to see a game where I felt like saying well done Chezzer. Hell Don Vito played a blinder or two where he literally bagged us 3 points. Haven’t seen it from Chezzer yet.

  37. Relieable sauce

    wouldnt describe sir ches’ last season as excellent, decent-good.
    theres a very good gk in there somewhere but he needs to grow up & be more professional, though still one of the best in prem imo

  38. Ozy

    There you go, WengerEagle – the majority don’t think he was excellent.

    And I was clearly being sarcastic. Like arguing with you was anything but a chore. Go wallow in mediocrity.

  39. WengerEagle

    Ozy

    One that openly admits he’s biased and that he hates Szczesny.

    Way to prove your point son.

    Wallow in mediocrity? It’s the 27th July genius, sorry if I’m not yet joining you in slitting your wrists.

  40. Alexanderhenry

    This is a curious blog. We all like a good moan , myself included, but this site is the ‘ moaniest’ site in the entire arsenal blogosphere. Pedro writes as if he’s in the know, as if he has inside knowledge. The reality is that he knows about as much as I do about the inner workings of arsenal football club. Last season he rather triumphally proclaimed that Suarez was a done deal and got that wrong. Even though we’re still in July our resident arsenal insider also stated that this summer’s transfer activity was over. Wrong there again, and I’ll bet there are one or two more signings to come. Worst of all, mr know it all neglects to mention the financial restrictions that wenger has had to work under, and for some reason refuses to acknowledge or discuss that these restrictions have been lifted to a certain extent. Arsenal’s lack of trophies in recent years is all down to poor management according to Pedro. This is utter tosh. If any , and I mean ANY other manager had been forced to manage arsenal for 8 years with a net transfer budget of zero, we’d have been mid table or worse. We’ve already seen the fruits of arsenal’s new transfer policy with last season’s much improved league performance and the FA cup win. Things are looking up at arsenal so why nitpick and smear? Why make ill judged predictions only to look foolish when they’re proven wrong? The reason is that this blog is first and foremost an anti wenger blog, not an arsenal blog. I believe and hope that wenger with money will be a completely different proposition to wenger with diddly squat to spend. Anyway, we’ll all find out soon enough,

  41. Salvage

    I think its time Pedro implemented the thumbs up and thumbs down function on this blog. So that we let those people that moan against people moaning, to understand just what many people think of their “better than thou, am a better supporter , stinking attitude” . If you cant make a good argument as to how Arteta and Zelalem being our prospects in MF, the fact that we neither have enough mature defenders , solid DM and potent striker could be a good thing, then shut up and let people moan in peace.

  42. Bamford13

    Jovetic continues to look quality for City. Would love to have him up top instead of Le Lampost.

    City up 5-1 on Milan. All kinds of depth, all kinds of quality.

    And you know what? It’s an exhibition game, just like Arsenal’s yesterday. The difference is City is quality top to bottom, C team to A team. And they’re missing plenty of players as well.

    Their 17-y-o Nigerian striker Iheanacho continues to shine as well. Five times the player Sanogo is. Cost them £900k. That’s what quality scouting gets you rather than looking simply for players who other clubs don’t rate and who are cheap.

    So frustrating.

  43. Johnty79

    Alexander Henry..what you fail to mention as we spent 400m more in wages than spurs in those 8years.

    Spurs spent 150m net spend on transfers but we still spent 250m more than them.

  44. travis

    Keepers are not a focal point in a Wenger team, look who he has had over the years, Wright, Fabianski, Almunia, Mannone, Lehmann, Chez, all around 2 million quid purchases, Wenger’s philosophy is there are 10 more players on the pitch before they get to his number one, Wenger feels it’s a collective thing, if we concede 6 goals, somehow Giroud is to blame

    Strange he can spend 42.5 million quid on Ozil, 30 odd million on Sanchez and 2 million on a keeper, maybe that’s why we conceded over 40 goals last season

  45. Mayank

    “the idea that we only signed Sanchez because Wenger was out of the country”

    Hahahaha oh God people actually think that?

  46. follow the money

    I think what was most depressing about yesterdays match was it appears Wenger is still enamored with crab football. I don’t understand it. I just watched the 2003-2004 season review DVD. The winning formula is RIGHT THERE. Strong defence, powerful DM, a top striker and speedy wingers to follow up and score from rebounds (Ljungberg and Pires cleaned up that season) and most importantly more direct tactics. I just don’t understand why Wenger has given up that proven method for the Barca-lite crab football BULLSHITE. We can only hope that Sanchez and Theo (hopefully) will take matters into their own hands and play more directly. I’m going to get pissed real quick if I have to watch Arteta pass backwards 75% of the time for another season

  47. travis

    And what’s the point of having 16 clean sheets, if you concede 17 goals in 3 games, 20 in 4 including the 3-0 loss to Everton, henry talks about money restraints, bollocks, the only restraint is Wenger, the man has had money, if you supported AFC in the Highbury days, you see Wenger’s transfer policy in all it’s glory, biggest spend was Wiltord 13 million quid until he took a chance on Reyes

    When this stadium was being built the fans were told money was there for transfers, the stadium would not hinder signings, have you forgotten we had 150 million cash last year, and Chips Keswick forced Wenger to spend 42.5 million of it on Ozil, this manager was going into a new season with one striker and 3 centrebacks with over 100 million quid in the bank, so Henry, don’t come in here and talk fucking shite about money restraints

  48. Alexanderhenry

    Jonty , yes we do have a high wage bill but it’s still lower than man u’s, Chelsea’s and city’s. Also, If you look closely at the figures – you can get these via a google search- you’ll see that as a proportion of total club expenditure arsenal FC are actually one of the lowest spenders in the premiership on wages. In other words, with it’s vast amount of readily available cash , the club could afford to spend a lot more on wages. Last time I checked arsenal’s wage bill as a percentage of total expenditure was under 60 per cent. The average in the prem is more like 70 to 80 per cent. This has probably changed since the oil and Sanchez purchases. I’ll have to check .

  49. travis

    Mayank, I think that is about the strength of it, Wenger buys around 8-15 million quid players, history shows us that, check the last 18 years, you think that at the age of 65, he is about to change his life’s philosophy, not a chance, suddenly this frugal manager is buying 42.5 and 34 million quid players, ha ha, you don’t know human nature son, creatures of habit, Wenger is not a big spender, so yes, someone else had a hand in Ozil and Sanchez, Wenger might have talked Debuchy into coming to Arsenal, but when Wenger was back in London, 2 kids of 15 and 17 were signed, that is pure Wenger

  50. Mayank

    “I think its time Pedro implemented the thumbs up and thumbs down function on this blog.”

    That’s a bad idea and I’m sure Pedro will concur. The point of this place was supposed to be that everyone is allowed an opinion, a thumbs up system will basically make the popular opinions visible.

  51. travis

    Who gives 50k a week to squad players, but refuses to give big wages to it’s top players, Wenger, that is the reason for our huge wage bill, 50 k a week for Park, Bendtner, Miyachi, Jenkinson, Chamakh and a whole host of other under performing duds, this manager is so over fucking rated it’s not funny, what a policy that is, socialist wages in a democratic country, time to fuck off Wenger, honestly

  52. Mayank

    “Wenger buys around 8-15 million quid players, history shows us that, ”

    If you look at what portion of the revenue he spent on players I think Henry will turn out to be more expensive than Sanchez. Wiltord would be even more so.

    Wenger is not afraid of spending money per se. He’s afraid of overpaying for players he doesn’t deem worth it. A la Higuain. Whether that’s a good thing or not is up for debate. He’s definitely not afraid of going over any arbitrary amount for a player. For example I’m sure he’d pay 100m for Messi if it were sanctioned by the board.

  53. travis

    Who in their right mind gives Denilson, Eboue 50k a week in wages, this manager is certifiable, then put them out on loan and still pay the wages because no club can afford to buy the player and pay those high wages well I will tell you Wenger,a blight on AFC, this guy has wasted so much money it’s cruel, and people think he’s a genius

  54. travis

    Last season Wenger spent 3 months telling the world he will spend the money if the right player came along, Wenger wanted quality, not quantity, we will add to the squad if we find the right player……..well he found him alright, that player we waited 3 months for was SANOGO, ON A FREE TRANSFER, this was the quality player this senile old bastard was talking about, get out the straight jackets, this guy is needed for an extra in the remake of one flew over the cuckoos nest

  55. travis

    I have seen people committed for less than what Wenger has uttered these last 10 years, 4th is a trophy for starters, those 6-0 6-3 5-1 defeats were accidents, no Arsene, cutting yourself shaving is an accident, those thrashing were avoidable negligent disasters, all down to your mis management people will look back on the last 13 years of Wenger’s stewardship and shake their head in utter disbelief

  56. travis

    They wills ask, did he really get 8 million pounds a year for finishing 4th, all he had to do was beat Spurs and Liverpool for that 4th position to get into his holy grail, Champions League, it seems a bit over the top doesn’t it the fans of the future will say

  57. Goner Joe

    Your Comment Here
    Bamford 13
    City v Milan two teams in a preseason match Milan are such trouble they are playing a lot of youth team players.
    New York red bulls in the middle of there season if you want to make a comparison how about manu v LA G.
    Did you see what Sanogo did in the FA cup maybe you didn’t watch it he turned the game in our (Arsenal’s just in case you don’t know the team I am talking about ) favor.
    But I get the feeling that Arsenal can’t do anything right by you why is that.

  58. travis

    Sagna had not received a pay rise in around 4-5 years, he ask for one for his loyalty to the club for staying 8 years while others left for higher wages elsewhere, he gets told to piss off, I am not giving you that much a week, but Wenger has no problem putting his hand out for his raise of 500,000k a year, so Wenger goes out and spends 10-12 million on Debuchy, and is considering spending another 12 million on Chambers, plus wages for those 2, after letting one of the best defenders in the club go, try and rationalise this from a manager who has lost all sense of reality

  59. travis

    Shows you how piss poor Arsenal are, they needed Sanogo to rescue them from extra time against Hull in the FA Cup, what a manager, cannot motivate his team, needs a ex postman to lead the way, tells you a lot about the weak mental strength and spirt of this leaderless bunch of over paid underachievers

  60. Blaisehayest

    Hear, hear Alexanderhenry!
    I don’t know why I bother reading this blog anymore, the doom and gloom is unbelievable. The thing that really gets me is the amount of “valid points” people on here make without backing up the point with any substance. Followthemoney taking unfounded dig at Arteta with his 75% backward pass comment. Arteta makes about 24 back passes a game compared to 53 forward passes. Or how about backing up the idea that Chezz is a bad keeper. According to most statistical analysis he was near the top in most categories. It goes on and on with this blog. If your going to say something damning about somebody at least back it up.

  61. Goner Joe

    Travis what’s the point if supporting Arsenals causes you this much pain maybe another club like I don’t know off the top of my head Spurs maybe.

  62. travis

    It’s been confirmed Chambers can play 3 positions, he ill cover left back right back and central defense, and at a pinch he will play up front when Giroud needs a rest, and in his spare time he will iron Wenger’s clothes, saved the club a shit load of moneywell done Arsene, fuck it, give Wenger 9 million a year

  63. NYCgooner

    Salvage

    Is it complaining about the level of moaning that’s the problem or people calling bullshit on all the knee jerk arguments the moaners tend to post on here?

  64. NYCgooner

    Belliken

    As i saw someone joked on twitter. Liverpool didn’t get money for the Suarez sale, they got Southhampton coupons!!

  65. The Poldi Prince

    I wish there was a mute button on this site more than an up/downvote system.

    Saying that, I love the disqus comment section of some sites. Very easy to use and have convos.

  66. travis

    Sure, no need to moan, have not won the title in 10 years, have never won the Champions League ever, won the FA Cup once in 10 years, Wenger has wasted hundreds of millions on socialist wages to absolute duds, still has Diably on the books pulling at least 50k a week, we have sold all our best players in the last 10 years, we have sold every captain we ever had, not one of our champion players have ever retired at this club, and the manager pulls 7.5 million quid a year for that disgrace, yes you are right, there is nothing to moan about, fuck you

  67. travis

    Oh, and as an after thought the fans are arsefucked with the highest ticket prices and food and beverage prices in the world, what a bunch of fucking mugs

  68. travis

    When I go to watch Arsenal, I don’t go to watch Wenger I want to see the players, why does Wenger get more than the players in wages, Pellegrini gets around 4 million quid to manage City, Jose around 8 .5 Wenger 8 million , the other guys won titles, Wenger didn’t how come this clown pulls that sort of money, Yaya Toure gets around 290k a week much more than his manager because people come to see him, how come this French fuck is the focal point at AFC and not the players

  69. NewCo Arsenal PLC

    Keyser

    Apologies for the delay getting back to you.
    Do I think Tottenham fans sit around in huddles remembering the good old days when they finished a point behind Arsenal, and saved £50 million?
    And you think I’d reserve that criticism to laugh at Arsenal fans using the same excuse.
    I don’t think about Tottenham fans, they’re annoying.
    Tottenham didn’t save £50 million, that is an example of Arsenal’s huge financial advantage over them.
    Arsenal have a manager with a Degree in Economics, yet it cost Arsenal £50 million more than their sworn enemy to finish one point ahead of them.
    That isn’t clever accounting, it is gross mis-management. The reality is that we could have had a wage-bill £40-45 million higher and finished below them.
    It doesn’t qualify as an achievement.
    I don’t know what Arsenal represent to you, but for me, the spirit of Arsenal came to fruition under Chapman. Wenger is nowhere near the same quality of manager, Chapman is up there with the very best. He completely revolutionised the club in a way that no other Arsenal manager has done. Chapman made Arsenal the biggest, most feared club in the world.
    The dynamics and energy that Chapman instilled in the club was lost, and instead of capitalising on their superiority, the new owners retreated so much, Arsenal aren’t even the biggest, most feared club in London.,
    Chapman’s Arsenal was all about winning trophies and being the best, and as a direct consequence of this the club had more money than all their rivals put together.
    After WWII, Samson had a hair-cut. The swash-buckling all-conquering Arsenal was gone, and replaced by Old Etonians who are all about protecting their investment, and whose safety-first strategy has often severely handicapped the club with their lack of football acumen. That’s the reason Wenger is thought of so highly by the Board. Wenger isn’t at Arsenal because he’s perceived to be the best football manager – or at least I hope not – he’s there because he makes them money.
    There is a big contrast in the Arsenal that Chapman managed to the present day model managed by Wenger, maybe you can see it, perhaps you’re happier ignoring it, I think most Arsenal fans do. This is the only version that the fans know, so the past is confined to the dustbin, and no-one acknowledges the monumental shift in policy because they’re not even aware of it happening.
    But I’m very aware, and that is my barometer for measuring Arsenal. Anything that falls short of the standards laid down by Herbert Chapman is not good enough, and that includes Arsene Wenger.

  70. travis

    Well said plc, best piece I have had the pleasure to read on here, Chapman died suddenly, shame really because he is Arsenal’s best manager by far and had he lived a bit longer we would be talking about him in the same breath as some rave about Wenger, they forget the 1930’s, like Myles Palmer says, some think football began in 1996

  71. travis

    Just imagine for a moment if Arsenal had not beaten Hull in extra time in the FA Cup, what would be the consequence of that, would 3 more years been on offer, would the ego have stepped aside

  72. travis

    I will tell you something that is impressive about Wenger, since he took over in 1996 he has cost the club, 100,591,000 on transfers, very impressive, had Keswick not made him buy Ozil it would have been more impressive, take 42.5 million off that and it has only cost AFC just over 58 million quid spent in transfers, that is players in and players out in 18 years

    There is non better than balancing the books, his sole reason he is still at the club, making Stan more money

    This is Arsene’s strength, buy young players for 500k, and sell them for 23 million Anelka, and Cesc 34 million, pay a lousy 3.4 million for RVP and sell him to a rival for 24 million pounds,his time at AFC is littered with profit taking deals like these, What needs to be done is to fool the fans into thinking we are all about winning trophies, lets hope they don’t stumble on to our real priority, making a fucking shit load of cash, if they do Arsene can tell them 4th is a trophy, the gullible fucking sheep will buy that bullshit, he has most of them memorized, they think he walks on water

  73. NewCo Arsenal PLC

    The BoD are as much to blame travis.
    Ancelotti was practically begging for the Arsenal job after Chelsea ditched him.
    Now he’s a three-time CL winner as a manager.
    And some lunatics will still claim Wenger is better.

  74. qna

    AlexHenry: Last time I checked arsenal’s wage bill as a percentage of total expenditure was under 60 per cent. The average in the prem is more like 70 to 80 per cent.

    You say that proudly? Shame on you. You forgot to mention that more that 40% of our income came from match day, vs 20% from the other teams. So Arsenal fans are collectively spending twice as much. Yiu would think they then deserve to at least match other clubs in what is spent on wages which is essentially the “product” they spend so highly on. Arsenal fans deserve to have value for money. They havent been getting it. Just lining the assets column of some rich yank and an uzbek gazzillionaire.

  75. TheBayingMob

    Goner Joe
    “New York red bulls in the middle of there season if you want to make a comparison how about manu v LA G.”

    Oh ok then … How about City beating Sporting Kansas 1-4 last week then?? Lol … They had a third string team out and literally toyed with the current MLS champs.

  76. TheBayingMob

    “Hell Don Vito played a blinder or two where he literally bagged us 3 points. Haven’t seen it from Chezzer yet.”

    Not a massive Chezzer fan as I think he’s a cunt, but there were games last season when he earned us points. Palace away springs immediately to mind. At least one if not two saves that kept us 0-1 up at the time so the above is inaccurate IMO. Will he come good or will his attitude get he better if him? When he was sat out for a while I thought he humbled up a bit, but then came the WHL selfie, IMO one of Wenger’s biggest problems is bigging up these young lads with wages far too early, they all think they’ve made it when the trophy count would suggest otherwise.

  77. qna

    All goog keepers have a bit of mongrel in them dont they. I am a chezzer fan but I think he still is prone to mistakes. But I am about the team, so if a better keeper comes in he should be number 1. Ospina will get his chance so will shez. May the best man take the no 1 spot and be the best damn keeper in the league this year

  78. Nasri's Mouth

    peanuts&monkeys: Is Arsenal weighing between a DM/ Striker? Ideally, both Diaby and Arteta should be sold this summer and Khedira brought in.

    Khedira isn’t a DM though…

  79. Alexanderhenry

    Qna, I am not proud of that statistic at all. I’m furious in fact. Much of the ‘austerity period’ was unnecessary in my opinion. That wasn’t wenger’s decision though. That was kroenke’s.