Joel Campbell one of the best emerging World Cup talents?

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Oh dear, two day hangover has set in. But fear not their is SO MUCH news to smash though.

There’s not.

It’s really dead out there.

Arsenal have sold Carlos Vela for the second time. The party man from Mexico is going to stay on in Sociedad, we’ve sold his buyout clause for £8.8m, which means we pulled about £11m for him in total. I’m a bit gutted, I would have liked him back at Arsenal. Maybe we’ll now buy Griezsman instead?

Who knows. At least we’re now in a financial positive for the summer. Money, money, money.

The later we leave it, the more unlikely it is we’ll get the amount of squad we need. I’m always staggered at how slow we are when picking up names. I can give Wenger the World Cup, because not many sides have snapped up players, however, didn’t matter to Chelsea did it?

Sometimes, it’d be nice to go against traditional excuses rather than embrace them.

On the World Cup, we’ll get to see Arsenal superstar loanee Joel Campbell in action against England tomorrow night. There’s not doubt that he’s been one of the best emerging performers of the tournament so far. I’m pretty excited about him. I mean, that excitement has to be tempered by the World Cup not exactly being the best barometer of a players ability.

However, the performances he’s had for Costa Rica, meshed in with how he played against United in the Champions League… well, you’d have to say the chances of him being better than Sanogo are pretty damn high. I’m also hoping that tomorrow, England play with a bold team. There’s no point in sticking Gerrard on, he’ll hopefully retire after this tournament. I’d like to see players like Barkley, Chamberlain and Jack Wilshere given a run out. See what they can do. See if they can play with some belief and tactical nous.

I mean, I doubt they can… but why not give them a crack. You can’t do any worse than two dismal losses.

Lots of good football on this evening, but the star game will be Netherlands vs Chile. Some seriously exciting football about to be had! Have a great day, hopefully, we’ll have more to talk about tomorrow!

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  1. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    Atletico were poor at managing their funds. By that I mean they spent above their station under their late chairman. In recent seasons they’ve been trying to buck this trend. This actually coincided with the hiring of Simeone.

    Like I said third party ownership is not limited to Atletico. All teams in la liga can do it if they want. This is a minor or irrelevant point to bring up. Although, I think I read recently this might change in Europe.

    I don’t see the relevance of you bringing Real and Barca into this. These two teams are, in essence, supported by the current LaLiga financial format. Need I make this clear again?? Whether they regress or not is of little importance in evaluating Simeoene’s achievement. THEY ARE THE BIG BOYS SUPPORTED BY AN UNAFIR LEAGUE SYSTEM.

    What black and white are talking about???

    And what’s this?

    “Like telling me about the financial constraints as if I’m unaware, because despite them you can’t debate rationally, poor from you”

    Nah poor from you mate

  2. London gunner

    Keyser

    Sorry if I offended you.

    As thank you goodnight said your an intelligent bloke with a lot of football knowledge I won’t say you have nothing to offer. I just feel you will have even more to offer if you realise you can learn from others that it’s a two way process. I am not claiming you have to learn anything from me I just mean people on this blog in general.

  3. MidwestGun

    Thomas –
    Ya the Mexico announcer confused me. Think they actually needed 2 more at that point. Oh well. Actually like the match ups better this way.

  4. Thomas

    MidwestGun June 23, 2014 21:56:23

    Thomas –
    Ya the Mexico announcer confused me. Think they actually needed 2 more at that point. Oh well. Actually like the match ups better this way.

    ______

    Yeah they needed two goals. Should be good games though.

  5. Keyser

    RR – They actively avoided paying tax, not to mention their debt, they’ve spent above their means and without sanction, that they’re paying something back, doesn’t suddenly vindicate them does it, people are wondering how they’ve achieved what they have, in an already unfair league system, they’ve bent the rules to help themselves.

    Simeone didn’t start the turnaround either, he didn’t win the first Europa League, so you could go further back, also apart from the big two because of the staggered league structure, it still means the third or fourth team has a pretty big advantage over the rest of the league.

    So then you look at the two teams above, have Atletico matched their points total ? Have they exceeded it ? Have the two teams above sustained their form ? No, because it’s the lowest winnings points total for a while, and if not that, then the lowest both the teams above will have finished with for years.

    So yeah Simeone deserves credit, but to give it no balance at all, is poor, I’ve been writing about the financial constraints for ages, while people were in awe of Barcelona or wondering why we aren’t Madrid.

    The point started with comparing Managers across leagues, and obviously third party issues arise, because in England there’s a ban, aswell as the tv money being shared more evenly.

    “Whether they regress or not is of little importance in evaluating Simeoene’s achievement. THEY ARE THE BIG BOYS SUPPORTED BY AN UNAFIR LEAGUE SYSTEM.”

    It does matter if they regress, because like I explained above the third, fourth team still has an advantage over the rest of the league, so it’s not soo much a league, as beating the two teams above you, surely you see that ?!

  6. Marko

    Nothing more pointless than a Mandzukic debate he’s slightly above average. On possibly Falcao moving well it’s likely one of DiMaria or Benzema will leave but not just that James Rodriguez is likely to want out.

  7. Keyser

    london_gunner – You sound young, like a few of the others, I doubt you could offend me really, I just can’t be bothered to explain my view again.

    You do this quite often really, wade in and make some bullshit point about the person rather than the opinion, it’s like people get tunnel vision on here, hopefully you go back and read what’s been written.

  8. Cesc Appeal

    kwik

    Cheers.

    Yeah I had a look at beIN Sport but there’s nothing on there, that I can see anyway.

    I wonder how much he’d go for, hypothetically. Could start a whole chain of transfers.

  9. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    You are talking a load of nonsense.

    “They actively avoided paying tax, not to mention their debt, they’ve spent above their means and without sanction, that they’re paying something back, doesn’t suddenly vindicate them does it, people are wondering how they’ve achieved what they have, in an already unfair league system, they’ve bent the rules to help themselves”
    ———–

    It’s a bent league and they weren’t the only ones at it. Even then it is bent in favour of two far more than others. Can you point to me a player or sets of signings from this bent way of operating Simeone befitted from?

    “Simeone didn’t start the turnaround either, he didn’t win the first Europa League, so you could go further back, also apart from the big two because of the staggered league structure, it still means the third or fourth team has a pretty big advantage over the rest of the league.”
    ——–
    What position were Atletico when Simeone took over? (This despite them winning Europa a season or two before) Sevilla won the Europa on more than one occasion but were no where near winning the league in that time.

    “So then you look at the two teams above, have Atletico matched their points total ? Have they exceeded it ? Have the two teams above sustained their form ? No, because it’s the lowest winnings points total for a while, and if not that, then the lowest both the teams above will have finished with for years”
    ——
    This is nonsensical because what matters is winning the league. The points accumulated by season varies usually. Sometimes they go up sometimes they go down. That Real and Barca did not meet the previous seasons’ total can’t be slight on Atletico. They were good enough to take advantage despite the structural imbalances they face. Geddit??
    —–

    “It does matter if they regress, because like I explained above the third, fourth team still has an advantage over the rest of the league, so it’s not soo much a league, as beating the two teams above you, surely you see that ?!”

    This is senseless. Were Atletico the 3rd placed side when Simeone took over? Are they third highest spending side in LaLiga? So are you saying that it is a given that if Real and barca drop in form the natural result would be that Atletico win the league?

    The point is the gap between the big 2 is so large as evidenced by usual large point differential over the last few years that even if they dropped 10% they should still comfortably finish above everyone else. The system supports them. If there was a third team it was Valencia as they were the last side to break the LaLiga duopoly.

  10. Keyser

    RR – They didn’t pay tax for years and had racked up massive debt, it’s not that Simeone benefitted especially, but that’s how they stayed around close enough to compete, so the idea they came from nowhere is rubbish, not to mention league position, just because you have a ‘big two’ doesn’t mean it’s equally tough for everyone else does it ?

    It just means that if you’re ahead of the rest you can have a shot at the teams above.

    “That Real and Barca did not meet the previous seasons’ total can’t be slight on Atletico.”

    Find the last league season that comes close to resembling the one we’ve just seen and you’ll have an answer.

    You can keep tacking on ‘Nonsense’ and other bollocks all you want. It doesn’t add weight to your argument and we’re already pretty far removed from where we started.

    “The point is the gap between the big 2 is so large as evidenced by usual large point differential over the last few years that even if they dropped 10% they should still comfortably finish above everyone else.”

    Lol that you’ve come up with a percentage now, says quite a bit in itself, from no chance, to ‘well they can afford to drop 10%’, again it’s an exceptional achievement for Atletico, and Simeone, to see how it translates across leagues or time is another thing entirely.

  11. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    Lol I see what you’ve done there. Retreated a bit eh. Simeone took a team that was closer to relegation than challenging for the title. How many years previous to Simeone taking over did Atletico finish third for them to have benefited from it?

    I see you wilfully ignore Atletico weren’t the only side doing the things you keep accusing them of. But at least you admit Simeone didn’t especially benefit.
    The other stuff you say’s just you trying to save face. It’s cool I’ll let you off.

    The point is you took umbrage at posters lavishing praise at Simeone. From what you write it seemed to me that you assumed people were ignorant of the context in which he achieved what he did. Turns out you were mistaken.

    If your aim is to find balance then you are looking at the wrong indicators. Don’t worry I’m fully aware of ‘grey’ areas’ and balance. But once in a while you come across certain events/situations/achievements that are exceptional and almost pure. They defy logic. Simeone’s achievement at Atletico might not be that but it sure comes close.

  12. Keyser

    RR – Retreated from what ? Maybe you could explain ? What did I actually say that was soo egregious ? finished closer to relegation ? Mate they weren’t paying tax, they were racking up masses of debt, and the majority of their team/squad was owned by third party investors.

    Do you understand what ‘beyond their means’ actually, well, means ? You still haven’t really shown that you aren’t ignorant, which was the point, people don’t mention any of this stuff, they take it like a given.

    Like this defy logic ? Prove that it defies logic, or that it even comes close. Soo far you’ve just come up with the usual rhetoric.

  13. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    Lol. Yup I haven’t mentioned Atletico were mismanaged at Board level. Yup it isn’t logical that Barca and Real are the most likely teams to win the league.

    I said Atletico were closer to relegation than challenging for the title when Simeone took over. Are you disputing this?

    You keep repeating they weren’t paying taxes…but were they alone in doing this? What’s funny is that you admit Simoene didn’t especially benefit from all this. So what’s the point of bringing it up?

    Calling you ignorant will be a compliment. Mate you’re done have a rest. I’m off to bed think you should too. Night night.

  14. Keyser

    RR – Lol and so what ? You’ve basically come up with it ‘Defies Logic’ therefore I shouldn’t have to explain it, and at the same time seem to be defending Simeone as some sort of deity.

    I didn’t say Simeone was shit, or that it wasn’t an exceptional achievement, just that maybe it’s better to wait and see how he does in other situations before ascribing him along with the greats. Him, not the actual league title. Geddit, HIM.

    “You keep repeating they weren’t paying taxes…but were they alone in doing this? What’s funny is that you admit Simeone didn’t especially benefit from all this. So what’s the point of bringing it up?”

    Lol because it obviously beneffited Atletico, unless you’re saying, they started from scratch, because Simeone hasn’t been there since the beginning of time and hasn’t re-invented Atletico.

    Maybe you should find out if they were alone, maybe then it wouldn’t defy logic, or in other words hurt your head soo much that you ignore it. Some of the numbers for their debt were exorbitant, not sure how many other clubs would’ve had similar.

    GoodNight mate, you’re obviously very, very tired.

  15. Radio Raheem

    Kesyer

    You’re being obtuse again.

    Logic = Barca or Real to win the league. Do you agree?

    Anywat what I said was

    “But once in a while you come across certain events/situations/achievements that are exceptional and almost pure. They defy logic. Simeone’s achievement at Atletico might NOT be that but it sure comes close.”

    If anything the past excess of Atletico’s board was another barrier to Simeone as they’ve had to become more prudent in recent seasons. I said this before.

    Lol I already said several times Atletico were not the only basket case club in La Liga.

    I think I have answered all your questions already. Read back.
    I also didn’t call Simeone a great just that he achieved something great the last two season. Again, read back

    Lol I’ve indulged you enough. I’m really off now. I’m happy for you to have the last word even if it’s senseless.

  16. Keyser

    RR – Logic is that they have lesser chance.

    Anyway, I’ve wondered how Simeone achieved what he had, whereas you’ve deemed it ‘Defies Logic’, all you’re doing is arguing against any point I make, rather than actively trying to explain how he achieved what he has ?

    Atletico have debt.

    -Well so do other clubs.

    What clubs ? Is it comparative ? Anything ?

    – I’ve answered your question, I’m done with you, to go against this is nonsense.

    If you were able to seperate the achievement from the man and his quest for greatness, you wouldn’t have wasted mine and your own team with all this superfluous bullshit.

    We’re still no closer to knowing how he actually achieved what he did, but you’ve played our some weird game to satiate your own ego, well done mate, thanks for indluging me.

  17. salparadisenyc

    Mid

    Italy 2-Uruguay 1.

    Think the Azzurri bounce back from that horrific performance against a very unpredictable Uruguay and snuff the game out like only an Italian side can.
    I think Prandelli go back to the formation he employed vs England with De Rossi, Pirlo and Veratti. If they go a goal down i’d rather see Immobile than Cassanno.

    Mario must take his chances, as there will surely be some with an attacking Uruguay. If he’s not on form, they will likely go home and Wenger can plot his Super Mario coup with time to spare.

    🙂

    That said Suarez could put it bed in the first 20 minutes.. dudes mental.

  18. salparadisenyc

    Oh ya..

    England will take Costa Rica out 3-1 with no pressure on their shoulders.

    Cote D’Ivoire 2 Greece 1.

    Aurier brace…..

  19. Wengerites be damned!

    After Paulinho went to Spuds he became so meh. When he was playing here in Brasil, you saw a good player, now you only see a footballer without confidence.
    I hope Scolari plays Fernandinho or Hernanes.
    It seems Brasil have no midfield when Paulinho is playing. David Luiz and T.Silva were always trying long balls to the attacking players. Then Fernandinho came and finally we had someone to make the midfield works properly.
    Felipão is known for being a stubborn guy, let’s see if he insists with Paulinho.
    He played well on Conf, Cup but now it’s clear Paulinho shouldn’t be first choice.

    Arriba Mexico! I bet they would beat Croatia. Mexico know how to play the first phase of the WC. This time I hope they go further in this competition and beat Holland. However it’s really tough to predict what team will prevail.

  20. LJB

    Gazidis was at the world cup in his capacity as a member of the FA’s international committee .He is fully behind Roy Hodgson, which is hardly surprising as Ivan loves a tactically inept ,indecisive ,unadventurous pensioner. So we have a Chief Executive on an FA jolly in Brazil and a manager commentating on French TV. Meanwhile other clubs are working hard on their summer business. It is an absolute bloody disgrace. So when you hear an AKB slagging the FA and Hodgson, just remind them who is one of the most influential members of the FA, Ivan himself.

  21. peanuts&monkeys

    Arsenal should be going hammer and tongs for Alexis Sanchez. He is one helluva player with a mix of Arshavin in his prime and Suarez of 2013. Get him Wenger. Get him or GET out!

  22. gonsterous

    I think the current team is enough to get us champions league football… So why change it !!!

    #TrollsInTheMorning !!!

  23. Niki B's Soldier

    Morning Gooners. You know what makes this window so much worse than the others?

    The fact that Wenger finally splashed last summer on the last day and there is that sliver of belief in all of us that he might actually spend big and acquire the targets that we are being linked with. Other things that add to the belief is the supposed “war chest” and the Puma deal. So we are all kinda just waiting for those big names to come in and transform the team and make us genuine contenders. Only thing is that the doubt still lingers and that is driving us insane! 🙂

  24. Amey

    I would have Robben like player instead of Sanchez , with blistering pace and excellent finishing abilities and one who can beat defenders easily. A far superior version of walcott. On left we can have cazorla type playmaker. Or we can go with Germany approach . Having a industrious passer having defensive side to his game like Krooze in AM position and OZil who is free to roam on left. And then have Sanchez on right. Ramsay can perform Krooze role, but then we would need 2 midfielders 1 CM and 1 DM.

  25. Nasri's Mouth

    @Amey

    Robben is playing exceptionally well at the moment, possibly player of the tournament.

    But he’ll be 31 in Jan, and he’ll be basically impossible to sign

    Oh, and he’s a twot of epic proportions

  26. Mark

    So Wilsher starts.

    I’m taking bets. Jack Wilshere will…

    a) have the game of his life and come back inspired for the new season
    b) get injured and we won’t see him in Arsenal shirt for months
    c) will be ineffectual, constantly holding the ball for too long and spending most of the time on the floor

  27. Dark Hei

    The only thing we can be sure of is a left sided attacking player. How many of them have been linked to us?
    Ivan Cuadrado, if he does come, will be a surprise. He is a great player, but given that we are probably keeping Podolski on our books, another flank player will move us to the unnecessary stock piling mode.
    Alexis Sanchez sounds more rational since he can play forward and left wing positions. Same for Remy as well (who will probably be slagged as a cheap option).

  28. Nasri's Mouth

    @Jim

    The links to Sanchez seem quite strong, so I believe we have interest there.

    the rumours with cuadrado are weaker, but it’s quite likely we’re looking at both

  29. MadeToLoveMagic

    the way I see it is that we are all like a bunch of abused wifes when it comes down to transfer windows

    we complain, we wish it would change, but in the end we are all there every day reading and reading the never ending supply of bollocks,,,,

    why? because its all we know and theres nothing better ,

    fact is we would all be far far better off switching off from this madness, we are the reason we see so much shit click hunting journos out there, because we click

    we all know if we see a headline like “arsenal willing to spend blah blah, in talks with blah bglah” we all know until we see it on bbc its bulshit

    yet we click click click

  30. Jim Lahey

    @NM – Sanchez would be a great addition. I hope this whole “Could Falcao move to Madrid making Benzema possibly available” thing doesn’t destract us from just signing Balotelli and being done with it.

    Certainly don’t want another Higuain/Suarez situation where we end up with neither.

  31. Bergkamplegend

    “Wenger rejects United bid for Verm”

    And could offer him a new contract…

    That’s too bad he didn’t do the same for van pussy LOL

  32. Dannyboy

    Poldi – that’s how they get us mate they know we’ll get excited and taken in by the Transfer Window bollocks.

    It’s like Skybet having PSG 4/1 to sign Pogba and us 3/1 to sign Marco Reus.

    There is literally a less than 1% chance of us signing Reus – probably a 20-50% chance of Pogba going to PSG but they know putting low odds will trick a load of cunts like us into thinking Reus is Emirates bound… Cheeky fuckers!

  33. Jim Lahey

    More proof of TalkSports anti-Arsenal standings.

    “As Arsene Wenger’s quest to buy another striker for his Arsenal side continues, he must now beat off opposition from Turkish side Besiktas if he is to land Salomon Kalou, reports talkSPORT.”

  34. Craigy

    Anybody watch sky sports news just then! Can’t remember the wankers full name ex footballer name paul! I tell u what! I felt physically sick listening to this fucks stark defence of Roy Hodgson, I can’t believe how much fucking passion this dick head had for him! You have to watch it to realise how bad it was

  35. Amey

    @NM I know it is not realistic to get Robben, So i think we need to adapt German approach to give freedom to Ozil. He likes to drift to wide areas instead of remaining in central position. For that , we need to have Ramsay in AM position, who is a good passer but also able to do dirty work , and have a strong CM like Vidal and DM like Gustavo and have Sanchez on left , Not realistic , but instead of Vidal We can get bender and we are set.

  36. Nasri's Mouth

    I’m pretty sure Kalou has shares in a lot of media outlets, given the amount of hit-whoring he generates

    No doubt the summer will be full of Arsenal fans going “…and then we’ll sign Kalou on the last day, honestly, you couldn’t make it up! “

  37. Bergkamplegend

    “….he must now beat off opposition from Turkish side Besiktas if he is to land Salomon Kalou,..”

    LOL typically arsène!!

  38. Nasri's Mouth

    @Amey

    not sure how you’d fit Sanchez on the left, and Ozil, and Ramsey and Vidal and Gustavo.

    if you look at how ozil moves about the pitch for us, he’s able to swop with Cazorla anyway. I’d like Gustavo / Bender behind / alongside Ramsey and then Sanchez up top

  39. Niki B's Soldier

    Amey, the point of having Ozil in the “Hole” id for him to drift. Thats the point of the “Hole”. To give the player in the “Hole” freedom. Ramsey at AM will hinder his ability to make unmarked runs into the box and give the attack a bit extra. All we need is a DM (Gustavo) Sanchez to provide competition/rotation for Wally and someone like Reus/Di Maria on the left with a ST up top, preferably a big guy with pace like Balotelli. Some think Muller or Mandzu would be better. With this team we can surely sustain a proper challenge.

  40. Cesc Appeal

    Niki B

    He also suffered a bad injury. No one can say for certain when he’ll come back and more importantly HOW he’ll come back.

    Whilst he does get a good spread of goals and assists it’s hard to argue that you can count his really excellent games on one hand over a season.

    Someone like Sanchez would be a definite upgrade, not just for goals and what have you but in terms of overall play, technique, skill and impact on the better teams.

  41. Bamford13

    Amey

    I like those players too, but do you really think Wenger is going to sign a Sanchez, Gustavo and Vidal or Pogba? I don’t. We’ll be lucky to get ONE player of that caliber and cost, much less three.

    Plus, do you think Juventus have any interest in selling Pogba or Vidal? Why would they? Would you sell either if he were at Arsenal?

    Finally, your spending spree doesn’t seem to include a new CF. Are you sticking with Giroud? If so, the money you’ve spent is being pissed down the drain. Giroud would make each of those players less than he is.

    A new CF is a must, and neither Balotelli or Mandzukic will do, IMO.

  42. Nasri's Mouth

    @niki B

    Not discounting Walcott. Sanchez can play wide left, wide right or up front. We could play both him and Walcott, or one or the other. It would give us a decent amount of flexibility. Add in a DM and we have a front 6 who we can chop and change as required

  43. Niki B's Soldier

    Agree Cesc, hence I have suggested that we get Sanchez to provide competition for Wally. They both have their better attributes and Walcott is definitely a better finisher and the faster player while Sanchez has better dribbling skill and we can argue better technical aspects. I think Walcott will come back a better player but its harsh for guys to discount him. And he is our only true Right Wing Forward. With him fit for the rest of last season we might have had a better finish cos we certainly lacked pace.

  44. Cesc Appeal

    Really would be nice to start hearing some concrete stuff about a big fat signing coming up for us.

    Van Gaal has done it when he’s managing a different side half way around the world. And the United team have done it when their manager is at the WC.

    Chelsea have already made two big signings.

    Time for us to start moving now. Our need is a lot greater than Chelsea’s.

    I don’t really watch La Liga, but apparently this Herrera chappy has had quite a season? I know United were toying with signing him last year and there was that whole agent thing.

  45. Dark Hei

    The whole goonernet is currently united on Sanchez, both the most ardent AKBs and WOs are sold on this fella.
    Somebody should give him a Nobel prize. Imagine the nuclear melt down if we get Kalou instead.

  46. matthew thomas

    Pedro needs to stop pretending that we are going to sign anyone of note. No reason to think this transfer window will be any different than the others.

  47. Niki B's Soldier

    @ Nasri – For sure. Sanchez would be a great addition. Although I don’t see him as a wide playmaker on the left (which is what we play there) neither do I see him as a lone ST (too small IMO) but he will definitely be a great addition as competition and rotation for Walcott. Some games we can start Walcott and bring on Sanchez or vice versa. Depending what we need down the right right, raw pace to get in behind defenders or skill to beat defenders. Dreams I tell u.

  48. Romford Pele

    I’d be willing to bet my left testicle that we won’t sign Kalou. As Jim says, it’s just a stick that the media uses to beat us with. Maybe a few years ago this could’ve happened but not now.

    Anyway nice to see Vela departure confirmed, that’s the Aurier money right there.

  49. Nasri's Mouth

    The Herrera signing is interesting. ManU spent a long time last summer trying to get him and managed to make themselves look very silly in the process.

    Clearly he’s not a direct LVG signing.

  50. Cesc Appeal

    RP

    Kallstrom?

    If the media do beat us with sticks it’s only because Arsenal hand them out for free.

  51. Romford Pele

    “neither do I see him as a lone ST (too small IMO)”

    Is Aguero too small? Suarez isn’t exactly big. It’s all about how you interpret that role. Sanchez is strong enough to play the role himself. Has that ingenuity that the aforementioned two possess as well.

  52. Romford Pele

    “Kallstrom?

    If the media do beat us with sticks it’s only because Arsenal hand them out for free.”

    Lol, that’s a fair one mate. Although I think he was only signed due to the setback Ramsey had. We probably wouldn’t have signed anyone otherwise, following the Draxler deal not going through.

  53. Nasri's Mouth

    @Niki B

    Sanchez isn’t tall, but he’s tough and strong.

    Anyway I guess we’ll find out on the next few weeks if we’re going to get him.

    After it was announced that Wenger was talking with ‘agents’ last night and couldn’t do his commentary, it’s been said by people who are apparently reliable that it was Sanchez agent. I’m going to take that with a pinch of salt though

  54. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    But you cannot try to claim that Van Gaal would have had no input. Whilst coaching a national side, at the World Cup, in Brasil.

    And even so, the body is working without the head in Manchester, something I’d like to see us do.

    That’s another side getting big business done who are, supposedly anyway, our competition.

    Time for Arsenal to pull their fingers out now. Starting to smell a bit familiar this.

  55. Cesc Appeal

    RP

    That was a low point for Arsenal though I think.

    Even opposing fans were too shocked to even muster slight mockery. THAT’S when you know it’s bad!

  56. Cesc Appeal

    Squad was already wafer thin by January.

    Ramsey has a set back, the best £156 Million in Cash Arsenal can do is a loan for broke back Kallstrom? Not acceptable.

  57. Bergkamplegend

    “And even so, the body is working without the head in Manchester, something I’d like to see us do.”

    Yes but remember that arsène is a very old man now…
    Please do not ask him too much lol

  58. Romford Pele

    Cesc – yeah I was far from happy in the slightest. Sitting top going for the league and you pull out KK! I literally would rather we had signed nobody. I understand Wenger not wanting to go for a big name there as we were well-stocked but still, a better loan signing than KK to see us through to the end surely?

    But i’m with you though, there’s literally no excuse now. Get moving with the transfers, pre-season will be upon us very soon.

  59. Amey

    @Bamford, I am not saying Vidal only , we can have bender for about 20 Mil , Sanchez — 22 mil, Aurier – 10 Mil , Gustavo — 20 Mil , and Have Remy at 10 mil, Play Sanchez CF and Remy at LW or vice versa , It is realistic with Vela, and Arteta/Flamini going out Net spend will be abt 50 Mil, which is a good value for the players we are getting., Remaining Back up keeper and an addition CB is remaning , but it won’t go beyond 70 Mil .

  60. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    You’ve misunderstood. I’m simply saying that ManU spent a long time trying to get him last summer, so he’s not a player that LVG has come in and identified as someone they want.
    He’s obviously ‘OK’ed it, (or at least you’d bloody well like to think so, given they have no D.o.F. at OT) but someone else initially decided to get him

  61. Cesc Appeal

    Bergkamp

    I would just to see Arsenal start to work independent of him.

    They HAVE to start doing that now. The guy is 64 years old, he’ll be 67 by the end of this new deal; it is time Gazidis & Co started to learn how to run the place, the footballing side of it, start to put the infrastructure in place.

    If Wenger had said “non” at the end of May to a new deal, I seriously worry about the footballing structure of the club to have dealt with that.

    Like we were saying, the club doesn’t seem remotely ready to be able to handle the football side without Wenger. And that is utterly wrong, who is disagreeing with him at Arsenal? Who’s pushing him on? Who’s aggressively pursuing deals, not in the tentative style of Wenger?

    Wenger is the football.
    The rest are the money.

  62. Nasri's Mouth

    @Amey

    Bender is going to cost more than £20m, Gustavo has a £26m buyout.

    If we sold either of Arteta or Flamini we’d get practically nothing for either

  63. gambon

    Cant see us even trying for Sanchez if we’re bringing Campbell back.

    We have 2 wide strikers in Walcott & Podolski and we dont really need a third, so to fit even Campbell is may take a departure.

    I would be very happy with:

    Szczesny

    Aurier—–Mertesacker——Koscielny——-Gibbs

    ———–Ramsey—————Arteta

    ————————Ozil—————-Cazorla

    Sanchez——–Benz/Balo

    But firstly i dont think Wenger is gonna sign 2 top attackers, and secondly we still wouldnt win the PL.

  64. Cesc Appeal

    RP

    “Get moving with the transfers, pre-season will be upon us very soon.”

    And this is exactly the reason “judge him in September” annoys me so much.

    You need to get these players in, settle them, get them to the fitness levels you want, adapt them to the style you’ve envisaged. Get them playing as part of the team not an individual plopped into a team!

  65. Nasri's Mouth

    I love the way people seem to know that the club can’t negotiate without Wenger.

    How does anyone know for sure what discussions are going on between Arsenal and Barca / Wolfsburg / RM etc.etc. and who is chairing them?

  66. Amey

    @NM, we can get Schniderline Instead of Bender then, . The point is we can get the business done withing 70-80 Mil net spend, and have a much better squad with a chance of competing for PL. There is no excuse for not getting players in.

  67. Romford Pele

    Niki, sure they do but Aguero has led the line by himself on numerous occasions too. You don’t always need to have a big CF leading the line. As long as they have a wide enough skillset to get away with it, you can be relevant.

  68. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Because you’re purely speculating with that assumption.

    I’m going off history and past precedent to make my assumption.

    Not saying either of us are right or wrong, just giving you the grounding for my opinion and what I see in terms of personnel (or lack of them) at the club at board level.

  69. Bamford13

    I think we should add Memphis Depay of the Netherlands to the list of players we’re discussing. Pacy, technical and powerful 20-y-o who can play wide left or centrally and who has already scored twice in the World Cup. Plays for PSV.

    He’s young, but he’s someone who should probably be on our radar.

  70. Bergkamplegend

    Cesc : “I would just to see Arsenal start to work independent of him.”

    Sweet dreams are made of this…

  71. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    I’m not making any assumptions at all. Just that people that declare it as fact do it without an awful lot of evidence.

  72. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    As I say, whilst there is no real evidence perhaps, you can say that history and past precedent shows us Arsenal are hugely ineffectual in the market and everything channels through Wenger.

    Our ex players admitted this as recently as the FA Cup saying he ‘potentially’ has too much power and say at Arsenal.

    I’m just saying, there’s far more previous for the place I’m coming from, then to say “what if Gazidis/Law or whoever are off now negotiating with Madrid or whoever.”

    I don’t even think it’s an argument to say Wenger has too much power…

  73. Gregg

    Seems like folk are falling into the trap of which previously known player, that has had a couple of decent games in the WC, we should buy. I guess we’re asking who will be this years El Hadj Diouf / Kleberson

  74. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    I’m not saying Wenger doesn’t have too much power, I’m just commenting on the idea that Gazidis and Law aren’t in discussions with clubs.

  75. Niki B's Soldier

    Cool RP. I see what u mean. I made my assumption on that we always ping the ball forward for Giroud to win in the air.

    Seen an article saying Arsenal should change to 3-5-2. What you guys think of that? Would it work for us? Seems to be working for the Dutch pretty well.

  76. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Oh yeah I don’t think they need their hands held at that point.

    My gripe is that I think Wenger has too much say on players and price.

    Would like to see Gazidis take charge, he seems a competent guy when it comes to commercials and public speaking.

  77. Cesc Appeal

    Cannot believe how well the Dutch are doing this tournament. Wrote them off before it.

    Thought there was a chance, a slim one Spain might get knocked out at group stage, purely because tiki takka died this season. Always fancied Chile to do really well.

    Dutch have been great, Robben in particular, wow.

  78. Romford Pele

    “Cool RP. I see what u mean. I made my assumption on that we always ping the ball forward for Giroud to win in the air.”

    We kind of have to at times mate because of the disconnect between midfield and Giroud.

    These days we play a much deeper line to accomodate guys like Mertesacker. That’s led to an improved defensive record but it also affects our transition when we attack. Giroud is often left isolated and he has to battle against two CBs. If he does hold it up, he still has to wait for the support from midfield. When you added in the lack of pace in the second half of the season, you can see why we struggled at times. Signing a DM will help in this regard as it means our attacking players won’t have to be so deep all the time and we can get players closer to Giroud when we attack. Giroud himself still needs replacing but I do sympathise with him at times.

    3-5-2 could work though i’ve never been the biggest fan personally.

  79. gambon

    Dont really see the need for Walking in Memphis.

    We need a RB and 3 top class players (2 attackers one CM)

    We prob wont get 3, but i dont see the point in bringing in another talented kid for fairly big money.

    Aurier
    Gustavo
    Sanchez
    Balotelli

    Is more than possible, and would cost about £85m.

    Obviously we wont do this, but when you look at our uninspiring first XI next season, just be aware we could easily have done what we needed to do.

    I think our interest in Balotelli is exaggerated, i doubt we are even interested in Sanchez.

  80. Gregg

    No-ones mentioned M’villa as a possible DM recruit. True he’s not at the world cup but he’s probably more attainable that most of the players mentioned over the last few weeks. Don’t be surprised !

  81. Niki B's Soldier

    gambonJune 24, 2014 10:33:04
    We cant play 3-5-2 as we dont have anyone to play left wing back.

    Gibbs? Surely he can play there? But I know you have a reason for saying what you said.

  82. gambon

    Gibbs offers absolutely nothing going forward.

    He is so timid in the final third its stupid.

    We already struggle to create with 4 defenders, with 5 defenders it would just get worse.

  83. Bamford13

    Sorry, Amey, I don’t think your scenario is realistic, regardless of how you tweak it.

    We will be lucky to sign ONE player who costs 20m or above, TWO at the very best. No way we sign three. Not under Wenger’s frugality watch.

    So, you need to try to fill the required positions — RB, DM, LW and CF — with a gross spend of roughly 50-60, without spending 20+ each on more than two players.

    For example:
    RB – Aurier (8m)
    DM – Schneiderlin (12m)
    LW – Sanchez (25m)
    CF – Remy (10m)

    I’m not in love with the above — not crazy about Remy and not as hot on Sanchez as others, though I recognize how good he is – but it’s at least feasible.

    Again, in a more ideal world, where Muller were available and we could spend a bit more, I’d sign:

    RB – Coleman
    DM – Gustavo
    LW – Gaitan*
    CF – Muller

    * I’ve included Gaitan both because I like him — as do United and Romford (?) — and because it will annoy certain clowns who were giving me a hard time on here yesterday.

  84. Jim Lahey

    TalkSPORT love a good negative headline about Arsenal….

    “Real Sociedad confirm Vela will NOT be returning to Arsenal” ….
    How about … “Arsenal make £8.8m of a player they sold 2 years ago.”

    and

    “Exclusive – AC Milan won’t let Balotelli join Arsenal, claims Agnew”
    Then you read what the guy said.. “I don’t think they’re going to let him go, It wouldn’t make any sense.”

  85. Bamford13

    gambon

    You’re not yourself (ie, correct) this morning. One, I was surprised to see you write that you’d be “very happy” with a starting XI next year that included Arteta. Arteta, along with Giroud, was one of the two anchors who most weighed us down this year. How could you be very happy with him as DM again next year?

    Two, Gibbs is better in the final third than he is in the defensive third. He’s no Marcelo, but he LIKES getting forward and taking players on and getting involved in the attack. Makes some mistakes, yes, but he’s a more clever attacking player than Sagna ever was.

  86. Revving Kevin

    Dear N5
    Scott is not mad. This is the same troll that bought us all those mad rants full of swear words as Marc. I think he was also Minion.

    Chav or spud. Complete tool.

  87. Revving Kevin

    Trolls like scott are what ruins this blog. Those of us that are actually Gooners may disagree with each other but we have the right to Becos we are real fans of the club.

    Nothing Pedro can do about these idiots, the fact they obsess on us proves how great our club is. They wouldn’t bother if was some two bob club like there’s or one built on temporary money.

    Scott displays the intelligence you would associate with a spud or chav.

    It’s a shame everyone on here doesn’t just ignore him but as he was posting anti Wenger views he was assumed to be one of the gang. He’s a tosser.

  88. Revving Kevin

    Dear Jim, Cesc and Nasri’s monkey
    The stadium was limited to 60,000 by the local transport authorities. Holloway road and arsenal station would be at capacity, anyone that has used holloway road know it’s issues. One of the most antiquated stations on the network. We could fill 80,000 no problem, we have 40000 on the waiting list.

    The cost to redeveloped holloway road station was around 70 million quid or thereabouts. Blow job. How long would that take? What affect on our existing capacity would that have?

    Plans for the actual stadium increase was based on adding another tier, reducing seat size and I understand they could also fill in the corners ( the corners are there for air circulation for the pitch).

    So yes We could fill a 80,000 seater. Yes we can increase the stadium size. Yes we can increase capacity at holloway road. Yes we can help satisfy season ticket demand.

    Will it happen us another question. I think it william but there would need to be guarantees from LT and the council. But don’t hold your breast on the lather.