Re-signing old players seems to be a theme…

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Very brief post today because I’m hungover.

David Luiz has moved to PSG for £50m. A quite incredible transfer. What the hell is going on there? I mean, I know he’s a good player, but he’s not a £50m player in my eyes. Also shows you how arrogant PSG are. They’ve been done for  FFP and now they’re spunking outlandish fees on players. Crazy. Shows Cheslea are serious about it though. They’re selling before buying to avoid what’s gone the way of Manchester City.

Talk of Cesc has progressed, with The Telegraph saying we’d only consider activating the buy back clause should a rival in our league move for him. The priorities lie elsewhere for me.

Carlos Vela seems quite keen on staying in Spain. It’d be a real odd move if Arsenal brought him back. However, it’s clear he’s a good wide man with pace and trickery. It’s not often Arsene goes back in for a player after they’ve bombed with us… but whatever, we need proper wide  players and he’s performed.

Lord Harris is bundling the pressure on the manager.

“We want to win the Premier League and the Champions League,”

“If we buy two or three players then I think we can. We want to win. We don’t want to be second, we don’t want to be third and we don’t want to be fourth. We will support Arsene with the players he wants to buy. He has always been encouraged to spend.”

I think Arsenal are in the process of trying the break the transfer record preWorld Cup. So watch this space.

However, let’s be clear here, Arsenal aren’t winning the Champions League if we sign 3 players. We had depth problems before we lost 6 players. So it’s only logical to suggest we need to replace the outgoing bodies, then layer in 3 top, top signings.

We’ll see though.

Have a great day!

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  1. Carts

    “Worry now is what happens to that team considering the debts they have and the financial power of the big European clubs.nat least they won the league, shame the CL was just too much for them.”

    Imagine someone like Carlos Slim or a wealthy Russian bought AM, paid off debts, “lent them money” and sat back..

  2. N5

    Ozrus, keep on trying mate. You’ll find the right girl one day and until that day you have your cat, wizards of warhammer and this site to insult gambon. Today could be that day buddy! you stay strong.

  3. MidwestGun

    Whether AW upgrades at striker or not is important because it is a clear marker of intent about seriousness to be competitive to win the Title. A quick look at the other CF position in the league compared to ours and it becomes obvious we are not serious about winning if we do nothing but bring in a Vela or Remy.
    City- Aguero, Dzeko, Negredo
    Pool- Suarez, Sturridge
    Chelsea- Costa, Torres?,Lukaku?,Ba?, Eto’o?
    United- Rvp, Rooney, New guy?
    Arsenal- Giroud, Sanogoal
    If we don’t upgrade, we will be left fighting for the 4th place trophy.
    And this Keyser notion that we somehow need to concentrate on our midfield and upgrade for a more free flowing player(whatever that is) is silly. If we are on some sort of long term plan to build our team through the midfield and not a have a legitimate striker than that is beyond ridiculous. The quickest way to be more successful is bring in a striker with power, pace, and finishing ability. Hopefully, Wenger is serious about accomplishing this, this summer. We have the money. And no Jeff, i am not optimistic it will happen but I remain hopeful.

  4. Dannyboy

    Lol speaking of women – I’ll have another one of my hilariously ‘bad luck Brian’ stories for you all tomorrow.. Stay tuned – this one’s a real killer!

  5. Hitman

    You have to do what you can within your control.
    Have your aims for the coming season and realistic players targets and act accordingly.

    This wait and see what happens in the transfer window policy, pick up scraps or maybe get lucky in August is not way to run a EPL club, or any multi million pound business. Smack of amateurism and lack of any strategic planning

    But I suppose if your only target is get fourth every year, doing nothing and going on holiday for 2 months or moonlighting at the world cup makes perfect sense.

  6. salparadisenyc

    KeyserMay 25, 2014 12:18:35
    Thomas – Great post, thanks for that.

    Lol

    Poor Thomas is taking a beating.
    Bit harsh on Atletico, no?
    A moment or two away from absolute glory, a historic double.

    Simeone admitted to making mistake with Costa, had they won it would of looked a galvanizing move pushing his troops onto glory. I don’t think you can take anything away from that side, we’ve not played that committed in years.

    Bale in the end looks the hero of missing … 3 ? pretty clear chances.
    Funny game.

  7. salparadisenyc

    Mid

    Bare minimum we sign Remy, no doubt about that.
    Wenger may be a silly shit, not sure he’s a total masochist.

  8. andy1886

    If Sagna only costs them £140k/wk, no transfer fee and he covers two spots in the squad (RB and CB) then that’s still a good deal for City. Even if they could get cover as good as that which is doubtful, two individual players would cost them just as much in wages even before you add on the transfer fees.

    BTW, The Campbell point is that the wages aren’t the issue when it comes to a free transfer.

  9. Hitman

    RM failed to defend one final corner and it cost them.

    Harsh, unlucky.

    Big spenders tend to be ‘lucky’

  10. salparadisenyc

    Strike that.

    Having Giroud tow the line the bulk of last season with Sanogo deputizing vs Bayern in the knockout stages is as masochistic as it gets.

    I’m covering my eyes for the next three months, a giant turd is surely approaching.

  11. Keyser

    Lol ‘Marker of Intent’, this is pretty far down the list, because the price and the reputation of the player means fuckall if he doesn’t perform, we set out a marker in Ozil, he’s a World Class player for a World Class price, in the end he needs to adapt, he needs to fit into the team and he’ll need to improve.

    ‘Serious about winning’ ? Again pointless cliche.

    “The quickest way to be more successful is bring in a striker with power, pace, and finishing ability”

    If you can’t be bothered to put any thought into it, kind of like your ‘Marker of intent’ comment, why bother ?

    We missed Walcott, Ox, Podolski for large parts of the season, even Ozil and Ramsey, yet we scrambled well, we’re not going to be able to do that next year, and considering our heaviest defeats, unless we get Benzema to be a world class defensive midfielder, we might struggle.

  12. MidwestGun

    Magic –
    Love Limericks! Nice work, Funny.
    Here is mine.

    There once was a man named Keyser
    who was obsessed with the midfield, he was wiser.
    He said Giroud would be good some day.
    If only the midfield would free flow play.
    And why can’t everyone see, that your comments are fertilizer.

  13. Keyser

    andy1886 – They’re not, we paid Sol top whack, in line with the top players.

    It’s a good deal for Citeh, not for us, and that’s why it matters, Zabayleta’s first choice for them, Sagna’s first choice for us, and the only reason he’s being mentioned as centre-back cover is because we played him there through necessity.

  14. MidwestGun

    Marker of intent – it means an indicator of how serious AW is about challenging for a Title. Giroud and Sanogoal = not serious. Cavani, Reus= deadly serious.
    Its a quicker way to success to upgrade the weakest and most important part of your team CF then to try and upgrade your entire midfield.
    I thought it was pretty clear.

  15. kwik fit

    There was and old tosspot called Mourinho
    Who lives in his own fuckin bubble
    Hes up his own ass
    Hes crude and crass
    and his Real replacement won the double
    .

  16. kwik fit

    So current story is Big Dick Law is in Madrid negotiating (not necessarily for a “Madrid” Player Thought to be Sanchez Now he’s no Di Maria but I would certainly take that.

  17. Keyser

    Lol the marker means nothing, 42.5 million is a marker, in the end Ozil needs to adapt, he needs to improve.

    Next, you said quickest, we’ve missed Podolski, Walcott and Ox from the 3 forwards we use, there’s been a marked decline in our production from last years top 4 scorers for us.

    Giroud’s been pretty consistent, even if you think he’s shit, where we’ve been completely inconsistent is midield, so even if you improve one player and one position, you’re still left wondering what happened at Citeh, Liverpool, and Chelsea away.

  18. MidwestGun

    Eagle –
    I agree, its a problem. Yet we finished 4th. And Keyser and I had this arguement about which we needed worse and I said if you think we need a Cdm first then I can almost understand that.
    But in typical Keyser fashion he said it’s not about Cdm its about the whole midfield and replacing Cesc and Nasri or some such nonsense. Lol. They never won a title here, so not sure why we need to replace them. But whatever. Anyhow, I still maintain we could get by with Arteta and Flamini if we had a genuine striker to paper the cracks.

  19. Thomas

    Ozrus May 25, 2014 12:28:11

    Thomas, hopefully it will be the team you support. If there is one.

    _____

    lol go stroke some of your cats. Bellend.

  20. Keyser

    “I still maintain we could get by with Arteta and Flamini if we had a genuine striker to paper the cracks.”

    And there you go.

  21. kwik fit

    If the midfield have been inconsistent at times last season then its due in no small part to the sheer lack of pace in our forward line. Midfield players need pacey forwards in order to lay the ball and provide an end product to their play. Two forwards with pace are a necessity in the window.

  22. WengerEagle

    Midwest

    Disagree mate on Flamini and Arteta getting us by even with a WC striker. We weren’t smashed away at City, Liverpool, Chelsea and Everton because of Giroud, it was down to a massive lack of protection to Mertesacker and Koscielny from the midfield. You’ll never win the BPL or go far in the UCL with Flamini/Arteta in CDM.

    We absolutely are in dire need of a WC CDM and we have been for nearly a decade now tbh, it’s always been a position Wenger has blatantly ignored.

  23. Keyser

    Limerick and intellect almost rhymed.

    Kwikfit – Fuck me mate, I’ve pointed that out almost every time, no Walcott, no Ox, no Podolski for large parts of the season. It’s like he’s got a mental block.

  24. salparadisenyc

    Sanchez puts all of this Vela nonsense to bed.
    I for one would be thrilled if we nailed him down, outside of Reus and Di Maria not sure we could do better on the left. Unless we risk it with a very pricey Draxler.

  25. andy1886

    Keyser, the original point was that it was insane that City would offer Sagna that money, I disagreed and as you said yourself it is a good deal for City, I wasn’t advocating that it would be a good idea for us to offer the same deal, in fact I’m sure that we can replace Sagna far more easily than we can rectify other defficiencies in our squad.

  26. salparadisenyc

    “We absolutely are in dire need of a WC CDM and we have been for nearly a decade now tbh,”

    This

    Always neglected, been on the edge of signing Xavi Alonso, Yann Mvila, Lars Bender and a few others. Never putting in the necessary bid, hopefully this is the summer.

  27. WengerEagle

    Sal

    Agree, Sanchez would be perfect and the best we could do after the other two. He’s scored 21 goals and made 15 assists this season for Barca and has scored 8 goals in his last 11 matches for Chile. He’s only 25 too, could still go up a couple of gears.

  28. Jeff

    I think the general consensus about Arteta’s lack of pace and thrust is well understood – except of course by Arteta and his manager. There is a reason why Arteta was never even a bench warmer in any Spain games (friendly or otherwise).

    However, I think he’s done his best for the club and if that isn’t quite good enough it’s not his fault. But he’s not the only one. We have quite a few lame ducks in the squad. And as if that wasn’t enough, our players tend to be injury prone and as if even that wasn’t enough, they tend to take an inordinate amount of time to return from injury. This horrible combination of circumstances that seems to plague us almost every season has never really been addressed and it worries me that it will never be adequately mitigated. Why?

    Ramsey gets injured and takes months to come back. Walcott gets injured (almost routinely every season) takes months to come back. Gibbs and Wilshere are both highly injury prone. Is it them or is it something else that isn’t quite right at the club; like training or the rehabilitation process. I don’t know but we almost always run out of steam in the final third of the season. Is it a coincidence; is it bad luck? Who is looking into this stuff? I worry that come next season we will be in exactly the same situation towards the end of the season and we will not have moved a single inch from square one.

  29. Keyser

    Not really sure on Sanchez, what gets me is that if these players really are that good then these teams have no reason to let them go.

  30. salparadisenyc

    Keyser, Neymar kills two of the below.

    Pedro
    Sanchez
    Tello

    Looks like Sanchez and Tello will move on.

  31. MidwestGun

    Again, I don’t disagree we need a cdm. Keyser doesn’t believe that is our problem. Some such nonsense about free flowing midfield. I said the quickest way to improve was a WC Cf. Teams know Giroud is so slow they don’t bother to defend him. They press forward because they know the only way we can pressure their goal is to throw the FBs forward on overlapping runs putting pressure on the Cdm which exposes their slowness.

  32. WengerEagle

    Sal

    They’re bringing back Deulofeu back from Everton too and you’d imagine they’ll opt to keep Pedro over Alexis as he’s an academy product and tbh is nearly as good as Sanchez on top form.

  33. Keyser

    WE – Go look at the stats, you might not think he’s upto it, you might want him another option, but he’s been relatively consistent compared to everyone else this year, he’s actually improved.

    Podolski and Ox missed the first half of the season.

    Walcott was top scorer last year and missed most of the year, Santi’s goals and assists are both down significantly to.

    The other side is that you can say Ozil and Ramsey have taken some of the onus, the worry is how long Ramsey could keep up such form or replicate it.

    Midwest is now talking rubbish because he hates Giroud, or is woefull when it comes to tactics.

  34. WengerEagle

    Giroud’s biggest problem aside from his inept finishing is obviously his lack of pace as it allows teams to play a high line against us knowing it effectively renders Giroud useless and that it constricts our midfield giving them far less room to operate in.

  35. salparadisenyc

    Eagle Agree,
    Pedro is a fucking baller, never thought it was possible to sign him as Barca hold there own.

  36. Keyser

    “Teams know Giroud is so slow they don’t bother to defend him”

    Lol like this, it’s one player, teams know how flimsy our midfield can be, sit deep, and pressure the player who picks the ball up from defence.

    Either you improve defensively, allow for mistakes in midfield and be more conservative, leaving the opposition with more ball control anyway, or you improve how efficient your passing is.

    Almost every attack in the first 15 minutes against Liverpool resulted from Ozil losing the ball cheaply in midfield.

    For some reason Midwest thinks Aguero, Torres, Van Persie, provide superhuman efforts in pressure on their own, singlehandedly pushing a team into submission.

  37. MidwestGun

    Giroud’s biggest problem aside from his inept finishing is obviously his lack of pace as it allows teams to play a high line against us knowing it effectively renders Giroud useless and that it constricts our midfield giving them far less room to operate in.
    ________
    Exactly Eagle. But somehow Keyser blames this on Ozil’s lack of effort or something.

  38. WengerEagle

    ‘Not really sure on Sanchez, what gets me is that if these players really are that good then these teams have no reason to let them go.’

    Tbh I think it’s more of a case of they badly need to strengthen in other areas rather than Sanchez not being good enough. He was Barca’s best forward after Messi this season so quality isn’t the problem. They have badly come up short this season and got hockeyed by Bayern last season because of their vulnerability at CB and in CM where Xavi is getting by on reputation alone IMO.

    They are getting in Ter Stegen as a GK and with Puyol retiring really need at least 1-2 WC CB’s. They need a RB as Dani Alves is off to PSG and I think they need to upgrade Xavi with a player in the mould of Koke who they could well be in for this summer.

    I also think they need another CF to help out Messi with the considerable goal burden he carries in the same way Benzema helps out Ronaldo. Pedro, Alexis and Neymar are all too similar and none of them are at their most comfortable operating in the centre which creates problems when Messi’s injured or being double-marked.

  39. Keyser

    WE – You’d be right, except we don’t play 4-4-2, Giroud’s on his own, and you’ve either got two wide-forwards, or a 5 man midfield. The whole point of that is to provide runners in attack or to spread out the goal threat.

    We haven’t done that all year, yet Giroud’s actually improved.

  40. Emiratesstroller

    The reason that we lost badly in away games to to teams in EPL and conceded
    2 goals against Hull is because we are defensively weak in midfield AND also
    in left full back position. Also the way we defend set pieces is absolutely appalling.

    We might not have won league, because of lack of goals but we would certainly not have conceded 21 goals in 5 away games which we lost through very bad organisation.

    You would have thought that our so-called coaching team would have worked by now on these problems.

  41. Keyser

    “86 % passing effeciency isn’t good enough for you Keyser?”

    Lol who are you talking about, and what is it supposed to mean ? That’s what you need to spend more time on.

  42. WengerEagle

    Keyser

    Even by looking at the stats you can derive that he is virtually incapable of scoring against the top 7 teams and is literally incapable of scoring against City, Chelsea and Man United. He scores the vast majority of his goals at the Emirates against bottom half of the table opposition which would be handy if he wasn’t our first choice striker.

    He’s done well considering the amount of pressure put on him I suppose you could say but the blame has to lie squarely at Wenger’s door for that surely?

    RE Ramsey, I think he can replicate what he’s done this season next season too. He seems to now have developed the confidence and the convinction to make the right decisions in the final third of the pitch which previously was his biggest problem post injury.

  43. Keyser

    WE – He’s 25 now, he’ll be 26 in December, I think Barcelona are an oddity, I think they have been exceptionally efficient in how they’ve worked their team, they’ve also lacked depth, but I think they were relying on players like Sanchez to make the step up, and while his stats have improved I don’t think he’s developed as they thought.

  44. Dissenter

    Giroud ceiling is average at best.
    Ozil, however has been poor and is yet to live up to his reputation. It could very well be that might happen next season. I hope he has the “mental strength” to rise up and prove Wenger right, since Wenger predicts that he’ll be nest season’s player of the season.
    We’ll see, I hope I get proved wrong.

    It’s not right to blame Giroud over and over for Ozil’s form.
    Ozil was really poor in the FA cup final, after watching the game twice over I can’t believe why it took so long for Wenger to replace him.

  45. Keyser

    WE – That sums up how people look at Giroud though, when you’re playing the top teams, the WHOLE team needs to be playing to it’s peak, look at Atletico last night, even without Costa how much more do you think they could’ve given, they were at their limits.

    Giroud’s playing like that for us, how many other players do you think ‘Well they can’t give much more’, we’ve had a mish-mash of a midfield all year.

  46. Dissenter

    I agree with Keyser’s stance against the horde of
    Legrove. Stop instinctively/compulsively blaming Giroud for everything wrong.
    Ozil has been average, that Ozil’s issue to resolve.

  47. goonpharm

    Keyser has a point. We are not a striker away from challenging. I have my issues with Giroud but he wasn’t the reason for our 3 capitulations this year. We lacked a dynamic edge in midfield to be able to compete against teams that went for our jugular.

    Even if we had Cavani, Neymar and Messi up top we still would have lost that game. Everyone of back five and midfield were absolutely diabolical. Arteta is a decent player, when utilised against teams in the bottom half but top 4 teams? Suicide.

    Flamini is too rash and his biggest asset was his engine – which is in decline. There’s a reason why a team like Milan who have a legendary record when it comes to prolonging players careers let him.

    Wilshere wants to play ACM so naturally will look to drive forward. It’s not a slight on him more so on Wenger who constantly tries to fit square pegs into round holes.

    Ramsey can not do it all on his oown. Santi and Ozil are not built to play defensively.

    So in summary not one of our current batch of midfielders have an ounce of defensive ability. No positioning sense, no awareness of runners, no physical prowess.

    Sign up a minimum of 2 DCM please. Martinez wants out. Get him. Khedira is back and obviously has a hard on for Arsenal so get him too. He’s surplus to requirements at Real.

    Then perhaps we can have wet dreams about Benzema, Cavani whoever is the in vogue striker at the moment.

  48. WengerEagle

    ‘ I think they were relying on players like Sanchez to make the step up, and while his stats have improved I don’t think he’s developed as they thought.’

    This is a fair statement actually and I agree with it, Alexis at Udinese was actually a better dribbler and his dribbling stats have dropped considerably since he has joined Barca. I think he’s quite inhibited in his play for Barca due most likely to feeling pressure to pass to Messi or Neymar and while his efficiency has improved he’s not at the level he could be if he was given more license to be creative and inventive in his play rather than doggedly efficient.

    That’s why I really would love us to sign him, I think he can move up a few gears and if he can combine his inventiveness from his Udinese days and his efficiency from his Barca days he could be a world beater for us.

  49. N5

    “Ozil has been average, that Ozil’s issue to resolve.”

    Totally disagree, he’s been good, just not great. You don’t provide the most assists by being average.

    Ozil will be great next year, players of his quality don’t just become average. And Dissenter by the way I read it, are you suggesting Ozil is to blame for Girouds lack of quality?

    I like Giroud, but Giroud missing sitters has nothing to do with anyone but Giroud.

  50. WengerEagle

    ‘Ozil, however has been poor and is yet to live up to his reputation. ‘

    Mate ask yourself why he’s been ‘poor’ which I also don’t agree with btw.

  51. Keyser

    Yeah he controls the club, not ‘football’.
    Lawd give me strength -____-

    More brains, less brawn.

  52. Dissenter

    I was here during the FA cup final and laughed when the Giroud bashing started. The bloke was isolated because Ozil and Ramsey could not put two passes together to save their lives. Giroud was isolated, yet he was the one being bashed.
    St Ozil has a stinker, Giroud will pay the penance for him.

    Even when the excellent goal Ramsey scored was discussed here, many would not give Giroud any praise for the excellent back heel that eluded two defenders and took another one way with his movement.

    It’s almost like Giroud bashing is part of the group dynamics here to fit in and earn your stripes.
    Ground isn’t good enough to lead the line but he’s good enough for our bench. If he’s good enough for our bench then he should be given some respect for at least staying healthy while Wenger was running him into the ground.

  53. goonpharm

    Eagle – spot on mate. He was game changer at Udinese. At Barça he’s more of a cog in the whole engine which is built to get the most of Messi.

    Like you say put him in a team with more freedom and he’ll flourish again. Can genuinely see him play up top for us easily. Pace, power and loads of heart and rarely gets injured.

    Wouldn’t mind at all.

  54. Keyser

    New Post – It’s not tat Ozil’s been poor, but who are you expecting more from ?

    It’s that simple, if we couldn’t buy anyone and had to keep this team together what would you do to improve it, I don’t get why this is hard to understand.

  55. Dissenter

    Winger Eagle,
    Yes, 42.5 million players are not bought to slay Norwich and Cardiff. They are bought for the big games.
    How many big games did Ozil excell in?
    He has a stinker in the final, you don’t call that poor?

    Why has he been poor?
    Maybe he wasn’t as good has everyone thinks he is.
    Maybe he’s was exhausted by the lack of a winter break.
    It may be that a lack of preseason stunted him
    We’ll wait and see.
    …can you all stop blaming Giroud for Ozil. That excuse has worn thin.

  56. WengerEagle

    “players of his quality don’t just become average” Torres?

    That was down to injuries, didn’t he fuck his knee up pre-world cup 2010?

    Michael Essien too, was arguably the world’s best CDM and now is a has-been for Milan because of a bad knee injury.

  57. WengerEagle

    ‘He has a stinker in the final, you don’t call that poor?’

    That’s just your opinion, I thought he was OK in the final, no-one barring Santi had a great game for us.

    ‘Maybe he wasn’t as good has everyone thinks he is.’

    You don’t lead the assist/key passes/through-ball stats in world football for 4-5 years if you’re not world class. He is every bit as good as everyone thinks he is, just look at his performances for Germany in the WCQ.

    ‘Maybe he’s was exhausted by the lack of a winter break.
    It may be that a lack of preseason stunted him’

    That’s getting closer as to why he’s not been at his best. Also we have NO PACE in the forward positions barring Theo who’s been injured so it’s no surprise why he’s struggled at times.

  58. WengerEagle

    Keyser

    Agree we have multiple problems aside from Giroud but he is a big problem as even at the top of his game he just isn’t good enough to start for us. Ozil, Ramsey, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Sagna, Gibbs, Szeszny when they are at the top of their game are all good enough to start for us.

    Giroud, Flamini/Arteta are the odd ones out as they aren’t good enough even at their best.

  59. Keyser

    WE – Mate you’re still concentrating on Giroud, look at the stats this year, and the drop off from our top 4 scorers last year to this, then look at the big games, even if you don’t think Giroud’s good enough, the best he can do is provide consistentcy, which he has.

    The drop off has come with us constantly changing our midfield and through injuries.

    That’s all the argument is, there’s plenty of things to consider that are tangible without resorting to conjecture.

    New Post – Take it over there, move on, nothing to see here.

  60. MadeToLoveMagic

    Giroud is a great but limited player, his weaknesess are magnified by the fact we have no other option, so instead of saying ok its not working with giroud today, lets try our quicker more technical striker, we say its not working with giroud today, he is slow and not technical.

    In reality Giroud could be one of the 4 strikers at any top club imo, his interplay is good for a big man and offers a team an option b when the tikka takka route isnt working. He gets assists and despite missing a shit load, does get his fairshare. Hes a good player and i would be happy to see him here nxt year ….

    plus He’s pedro’s man crush, what would he do with Mr GQ to oggle??

    Was trying to think who my man crush would be, i decided on James franco, i think if i was gonna go gay he’d do it for me looool,

    whos everyones an crush, and remember it shows you are comfortable with your sexuality people!

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