Future of sport press | Wenger confident as are the players

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Gooooood morning. What an incredibly pleasant day it is outside? If the day were a person, it’d be Eboue at a Christmas party. A little ball of sunshine. Maybe not Eboue now. No World Cup for him this year. Sad times for the tiger suited right back.

So how was yesterday?

Well, it was quite fun. I got to sit in and watch a press conference. I took some snipey flak online for it. Shocker. Not sure why. I’m a fan, not a militant or a right wing action group looking to take down the club. You either want to see the day or you don’t. Being critiqued for going to yesterday is like being critiqued for going to games. I create Arsenal content everyday of the year, I have social channels dedicated to sharing that, if I can get some stuff to share, why not?  The same people who moan about me going to these things moan about journos. At least I’m a fan.

Anyway, whatever. It’s become quite clear that people snipe whatever happens here.

So what did I learn yesterday? Well, without meaning to take down and industry… especially one I’m about to sit with this evening, it’s not hard to see why traditional media is in such a hole at the moment. Yesterday’s press conference was 60 strong. 60 people there, all taking notes on the same event. 60 people who all loosely know each other. I mean, in the world of online content, originality and angle is king. How are these guys supposed to get an angle on a story if they’re all listening to the same thing?

I jumped in a cab with three online journalists on the way in. They told me they were almost solely KPI’d on page views. So it was all about the salacious title. David Ogilvy, the famous marketing creative once said 80% of a clients copy budget is in the headline. It’s true to an extent. Online is a cluttered space. Your headline needs to be punchy and interesting otherwise people won’t come… and I get this totally. However, if you’re KPId on page views, are you hitting for great journalism, or are you looking for the one fleck of controversy that will inflame page views?

Quick point here, I’m not for a minute suggesting all journalism is poor. Clearly it’s not. However, it feels like a lot of these online publications are missing a trick. There are three KPIs that are important from a digital perspective with a publication. The first is dwell time. If people don’t stay on your site very long, there might be a value with the advertising impression, but the person who has come on the site and disappeared in 5 seconds hasn’t built and affinity with your site because clearly they’re disappointed with the content. When you use misleading headlines and the story disappoints, you’ve lost a reader. The second is bounce rate. You want to hook people into the site. The Daily Mail side bar of shame is world class at keeping you online. The most important one for me, is return visitor rate. Does that person return off their own back?

There are only a few news publications I’ll return to regularly off my own back. The Times, because I pay for it and the Guardian, because the experience is a pleasant one. I’m not sure these publications focus enough on the bigger picture.

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The problem is they’re not generating enough revenue. Their solution? More adverts. More monetization. They’re the record label struggling to turn a profit because of falling sales coming up with the solution of putting record costs up. A couple of hideous websites for adverts are the Express and the Independent. I don’t click because the websites are so awful with their fullpage takeovers and the autoplay videos. No consideration for the user, all about pageviews in the moment. Not thinking about the lifetime value of that pageview.

Newspapers won’t survive unless they have amazing digital propositions. The reason their digital propositions are generally so bad is because their infrastructures are fat and bloated and they’re trying to shoe horn them into lean digital operations. Football journalism is changing, give it 10 years and things will be very different, because from where I’m looking, you can’t run a business the way these papers do and expect to survive.

I remember speaking to a very good journalist at a very good paper who told me he had to supplement his salary by £8k to survive. For me, the future model of journalism is freelance with a mix of newspaper and brand. The sad fact is, brands pay better. I pay journalists to work with me, so I know the prices that happen. One of the biggest English speaking publications (profitable publication as well) just asked me to write for them this Sunday… the offer? £50. Interestingly, the brand / publisher mix is happening with bloggers as well. They’re offering a supplementary living as well. It’s becoming one big blurred mess… but an interesting evolution as the industry buckles under the reality that they’ll have to evolve to survive the next ten years.

The jist of what I’m getting at here is that the page view will become an irrelevance… brilliant writing never will. Some papers are forgetting this and forcing journos to do things they’re not proud of. Very sad.

Anyway, onto the presser. What was interesting, outside the totally bland comments of Arsene, was that the journalists goad the manager. Not on purpose, but proceedings went a little like this.

‘Arsene, can you tell us about the futures of some of your key players?’

‘No, I’m not talking about that’

‘Arsene, what about Samir Nasri?’

‘I’m here to talk about the FA Cup’

‘Arsene, do you expect Fabianski to sign on again?’

‘I won’t talk about that’

‘Arsene, this could potentially be Vermaelen’s last game for the club?’

‘I won’t talk about that’

‘Arsene, can you give us a few quotes in French about Samir Nasri’s omittance from the squad?’

Honestly, you’re sitting at the back listening to this and you can’t quite fathom why they’re all asking the same questions? Obviously, not all of the questions were the same, but even the good ones were tepid.

‘Arsene, will the result affect your future?’

‘No’

You know you’ll get that response. Why not ask…

‘Arsene, if you lose this game at the weekend, do you think after 10 years without a trophy, you should resign?’

Isn’t that what journalism is about? Sparking a response? The manager gets such an easy ride in these things.

Anyway, not too much of a clue what’s going on. You sensed he was very confident by keen not to be complacent.

We then went on to watch the players train. Well, when I say train, we watched them run around the pitch twice. I don’t know much about fitness, but they basically looped the pitch twice, did 3 minutes of shuttle runs and a little bit of stretching. My Sunday league warm up. Proper not advanced.

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Anyway, it was great seeing the players so close. They’re just like big kids. Jack had accidentally hurt Koscielny and was begging for forgiveness… he didn’t get it. They all seem to really get on. You also realise how slim they all are. Very slight frames. Giroud is a big old lump though. He’s massive close up, but ultimately, I’m still going gay for him, so deal with it. Diaby is also quite a beast. We were shuffled out after 15min as the club were working on secret stuff. I left then, I met the assistant to Gary O’Driscoll and Colin Lewin after, she said she was a keen reader of Le Grove, what a superstar (or PR stooge, she was pretty). Hopefully that’s on a recommendation of her bosses!

Anyway, all good fun.Sounds like the club are going to make an effort to involve more than the press moving forward.

On the massive positive front. The players look relaxed, the manager sounds relaxed so I’m feeling good about the weekend. In fact, I’m feeling amazing about the weekend. I can’t wait. The FA Cup may not be premier in the players eyes, but it certainly is in terms of fan spectacle. If we finish the season on a win, it’ll be a great way to head into the summer. Some bloody silverware!

Right, that’s all I’ve got for you. Have a damn fine day. I’m at the Football Writers Awards tonight, if I get any off the record goss, I’ll share tomorrow.

HAVE A GOOD DAY DON’T BURN YOURSELF IN THE BLAZING HEAT BECAUSE YOU’LL PEEL WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE.

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P.S. I appreciate I make typos… so the quality isn’t up to newspapers levels.

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  1. Childish Gambino

    In other news… I bet whoever scores the winning goal for us becomes an instant cult hero (even if the player is already well loved). I hope its Ramsey or Ozil.

  2. Guns of brixton

    Ha ha!

    Excellent demonstration of self control pedro, had i been so close to AW i would of scseamed ‘ SPEND SOME F**G MONEY YOU STINGHY OLD MAN!’

    failing that, thrown my size 11 and half trainers at him with one saying spend and the other saying money.

  3. Childish Gambino

    @Mark

    Ive been refreshing on here since 0900hrs (GMT) only for you to beat me by 10 secs because my downloads slowed me down and i had to resend. I’m super gutted

  4. bergkamplegend

    “I hope its Ramsey or Ozil.”

    We all know it will be L’Oreal.
    It’s written in the stars.

  5. bergkamplegend

    “HAVE A GOOD DAY DON’T BURN YOURSELF IN THE BLAZING HEAT BECAUSE YOU’LL PEEL WHICH IS NOT ATTRACTIVE.”

    Pedro, why do you talked to us like we were Iniesta ??

  6. Tomtom

    So after 9 years without a trophy arsenal are charging fans to watch the cup final on a big screen at the emirates. Surely they could have done this for no charge????

  7. WengerEagle

    bergkamplegend

    Was just thinking that actually.

    Someone on here before suggested Jorge Jesus as a Wenger replacement but tbh he’s a much bigger bottler than Wenger.

  8. Childish Gambino

    What do Le grovers think about this transfer dealings:

    IN: world class signing, Vela, Remy, Diego Ribas, Schneiderlin, Caulker, Aurier and Ashley Williams

    OUT: Vermalean (70kpw) , Diaby (60kpw) , Sagna (65kpw) , Bendtner (50kpw)and other insignificant players

  9. Mark

    ‘Arsene, will the result affect your future?’

    ‘No’

    You know you’ll get that response. Why not ask…

    ‘Arsene, if you lose this game at the weekend, do you think after 10 years without a trophy, you should resign?’

    Isn’t that what journalism is about? Sparking a response? The manager gets such an easy ride in these things.

    ————————————————–

    Completely agree with this Pedro. The journos don’t even ask probing questions any more. There is certainly no accountability within the club so you have to rely on the journalists to ask the relevant questions. They bottle it – probably due to the fact they won’t get any tit bits from the club which, I think, Pedro has alluded to in the past. How refreshing it would be to hear some intelligent, well thought out questions at a press conference/after match interview instead of the usual inane predictable questions we currently hear.

  10. Childish Gambino

    I know y’all would chew my heads off but at this point this’ll be better than whatever AW has in his thick head.

  11. WengerEagle

    Childish Gambino

    I’d only want one of Vela/Remy as neither are the WC striker we need, Diego Ribas plays for Atletico Madrid so I doubt he wants to leave and Ashley Williams is pretty rubbish.

    Aside from that though I’d like the rest.

  12. Hitchy

    “I met the assistant to Gary O’Driscoll and Colin Lewin after, she said she was a keen reader of Le Grove, what a superstar (or PR stooge, she was pretty).”

    Is this Pedro’s attempt to flirt his way onto and inside scoop? Top marks for effort.

  13. Leedsgunner

    Tomtom

    Super idea. I agree, it would have been a publicity coup and a clever ploy to get in the next generation of Gooners. But hey, why are we surprised?

    “The only people spending money over at Arsenal are the fans.”

  14. WengerEagle

    ‘How refreshing it would be to hear some intelligent, well thought out questions at a press conference/after match interview instead of the usual inane predictable questions we currently hear.’

    Well Wenger and Mourinho would be fucked in that case, one talks more shite than the other in Press Conferences.

  15. Guns of brixton

    dull post?

    Gave insight to mechanims of journos life in sport for me.

    . . . and its hard to generate a page long post, post-season, all there is is crappy transfer stories with no weight whatsoever.

  16. MidwestGun

    Pedro –
    Interesting, pretty much exactly how I thought a press conference would go.

    So about this prettyPR girl. Don’t you think the blog deserves a selfie or 2? It’s all the rage. I mean watching a bunch of highly trained athletes sleep walk around a pitch is fascinating. But hot PR chick selfies, now we’re talkin clicks. 😀

  17. master pires

    Tomorrow may see the end of:
    Sagna
    Fabianski
    Diaby
    Vermaelan
    Podolski

    All very good, competent, squad player. Hopefully we can replace and add extra or we’ll be left very short next season.

  18. TitsMcgee

    Completely agree with this Pedro. The journos don’t even ask probing questions any more. T”

    It’s like Wenger is a mobster people are afraid to challenge.

  19. WengerEagle

    ‘All very good, competent, squad player.’

    You had me until you mentioned Diaby who’s contributed less than the furniture in the Emirates dressing room in the last couple of years.

  20. Mark

    The journalists give it large on Sky Sports ‘Hold The Back Page’ but when it’s face to face it at a press conference it’s ‘Arsene what’s your favourite colour?’

  21. TitsMcgee

    Sagna
    Fabianski
    Diaby
    Vermaelan
    Podolski”

    Not for Diaby. Wenger is gonna using him in CM next season.

  22. Rob The Goon

    Great digital media insight Pedro!

    You’ve come a long way

    But, whatever happened to Geoff?

  23. Keyser

    Lol actually read the post, and Pedro’s far better when he puts some thought into it, searching out something people might want to read about rather than simply trying to push peoples buttons.

    All it does is beg the question, why didn’t you ask the journalists why they don’t ask more pressing questions ? It’s a bit pointless writing about something everyone complains about anyway, without trying to find out why.

    Then you could have a guest post from a blogger asking Pedro ‘Why’ he didn’t ask the journalists that question, what stopped him ? Social etiquette ? Awkwardness ? Self Esteem ?!

  24. Keyser

    Maybe it’s more of a sporting thing, I keep wondering what the difference between Journalist and Reporter is.

    Surely a Sports Reporter/ Jounalist can’t escape from the inevitable reality that the base line are the reuslts he sees out on the field and while people might want some of the backpage storyline, most of the time it’s far less interesting than you’d think, so maybe they ask ambiguous questions, to give them more leeway in what they choose to manipulate to their own gain.

  25. Cyril

    ***Beer strategy recommendation for Saturday ***

    Head to Harrow on the Hill – some nice pubs in a burby area. No queues for beer, not watered down and normal prices. The cab from there at the semi cost about £9.00 between 4 of us straight there and we left no more than an hour before kick off. We arranged to be dropped down a side entrance to wembley – straight into the stadium. Avoid the bottle beer as it cost us £9.80 to get two to make a pint glass up. Use the mobile bars around the sides and not the main bars. Come on Arsenal for Christ’s sake -please !!!!!!

  26. Nickie

    Gareth Barry rumours floating about again. He will be integral if we are to mount a title charge next season

  27. bergkamplegend

    Guns of brixton : “Yohan Gourcuff- a long time arsenal target- injured his ankle when he was walking his dog.”

    You mean he was walking diaby ??

  28. Golikethis

    Not bad Pedro:
    “Arsene, if you lose this game at the weekend, do you think after 10 years without a trophy, you should resign?’”
    But you could improve:
    “Arsene, if you lose this game at the weekend it will be 10 years without a trophy. Which arguments could you give us, that you should not resign?’”
    🙂

  29. MidwestGun

    Keyser –
    Pedro was an invitee blogger to a presser, I hardly think it would have been appropriate to start questioning the veracity of the other journalists on the spot. He was there to report to us what he saw and give his opinion not do investigative journalism. Shheeesh. So your answer is etiquette.

  30. Keyser

    MidwestGun – Yeah, but that’s the question you want the answer to isn’t it, so Pedro’s basically doing what they’re doing, maybe it’s Social Etiquette for them not to harrass the manager knowing that it’s one press conference of 10’s maybe hundreds during a year.

    In the end Wenger’s most likely just to give you his opinion of the ‘Nasri’ situation rather than any real insight the Journalists could’ve gleaned from other resources.

    Wake up a bit, is it still early in America.

  31. MidwestGun

    Hitchy –
    Agreed, this blog could do with some female readership. Trust me they would be worshipped for a good selfie.
    Look at the German beer drinking girls popularity. Lol

  32. Wallace

    there’s a great book on Brian Clough – ‘provided you don’t kiss me’ – written by a local Nottingham journalist. while he had a good relationship with Clough he was barred a few times for asking awkward questions. i guess if you are wanting any scoops you will always have to be a little careful not to offend too much.

  33. Thank you and goodnight

    @Midwest
    I actually have to say I agree 100% with keyser on this. Pedro is always saying they should ask probing questions and asking why they don’t, and yesterday was the best time to get these answers and he didn’t. So for once 100% agree keyser.

  34. Keyser

    Also if you’re in the back of a taxi with someone, bit different to the actual press conference, and Pedro could’ve gone with the classic

    ‘The Jounalist looked shifty and nervous when I asked this question and hurredly resorted to the oft used ‘No Comment’ before opening the door of the moving taxi and commando rolling out onto the busy High Street, to escape my unrelentless search for the truth’

    In the end it’s the Jounalists livelihood at stake, a position he’s probably worked hard to at least get invited to, not sure ? could be easy, and he doesn’t really want to jeopardise that by calling Wenger a ‘Cunt’ and lobbing his shoe at him.

  35. Keyser

    To be honest I’m not surprised why no-one’s commented on Islington Council and the club putting up early signs about a Parade maybe happening.

    Arrogance ? Or maybe just wanting to give the local public enough time to deal with what maybe all sorts of traffic problems.

  36. Marko

    Why couldn’t they ask him something like:
    Arsene you said there would be no dealings before the World Cup and yet your rivals are already making moves in the transfer maket. Do you think maybe Arsenal should get some business done early this year?
    Or
    Arsene do you not think Arsenal should of at leasr tried for Diego Costa? Who at 32 million and affordable was just what Arsenal needed to compete.

  37. N5

    “he doesn’t really want to jeopardise that by calling Wenger a ‘Cunt’ and lobbing his shoe at him.”

    Loooooooooooool.

  38. N5

    Keyser, there are rules on notifying the locals to a parade. I’m not sure what they are but I know there does have to be notice given.

  39. MidwestGun

    Keyser –
    Well it is early, but Pedro did say they were goading AW. So more likely
    they know whatever question they ask they will not get a thought out response so they try and provoke a response by annoying AW. More like trolling then reporting. Also, keep in mind if they get too direct with their line of questioning they can be asked to leave with no access. So I imagine that influences their questioning.

  40. Keyser

    *I am suprised.

    The interesting bit is that Pedro does mention monetary constaints now, how Journalists may have to adapt to the new terrain

    The Guardian regularly puts up blog like articles with the ability for people to comment on them, not sure exactly how other newspapers compare, I used to read The Times actual newspaper every Sunday, almost a ritual, just can’t be asked to getting around to pay for it online, so I haven’t bothered for years now.

    The Guardian’s set-up is sharp and easy to use. Maybe a little too easy and simple.

  41. N5

    I imagine any questions posed to Wenger are heavily vetted now.

    Google hangout MK II: Journo: So Wenger where is your favourite place to holiday!!

    AW: Pedro, please stop asking me the same question?

    Pedro: Why you look at meee.

  42. gambon

    “Arrogance ? Or maybe just wanting to give the local public enough time to deal with what maybe all sorts of traffic problems.”

    They had little choice I would imagine.

    I would bet Hull have their route all planned.

  43. Keyser

    N5 – Yeah, the Daily Mail’s still going with it though.

    It’s been dismaying the past few months at how riled people get at all the transfer stories linking us to players, I’ve put it down to frustration, or catharsis.

    Then I wonder if Pedro cashed in on his notiriety he could probably set up a premium rate line with ‘Top Secret transfer news’ and get half the readership to at least hang on the line long enough to read through all ten options before they hung up.

    Like the numbers you’d get on Ceefax that linked us with ‘Dutch Superstar’ every year.

  44. Marko

    Thank you and goodnightMay 15, 2014    12:46:06
    @Keyser
    Lobbing of shoes very middle eastern…..I prefer the ‘oy wanker’ before shitting on his desk approach. Quintessentialy English way of doing things:)

    I guess the irish equivalent would be calling him a gobshite and pissing in the corner

  45. Rob The Goon

    Why didn’t Pedro ask probing questions – Its simple really, as soon as you ask those type of questions, you wont be invited back!

    Let him get his feet under the table at least and then maybe the probing questions can begin.

    Just a thought but instead of bitching, how about congratulating Pedro on his first press conference!

  46. bergkamplegend

    “Ey……you mean that doris that won euro vision song contest was actually a geezer???”

    Yep, a close friend of phil jones.

  47. Keyser

    SkySportsNews was rocked today as Arsene Wengers live televised press conference was cut short, almost 60 journalists had gathered for the pre-FA Cup conflab.

    Peter Wood, alias ‘Pedro’, blogger extrordinaire of Le Grove, no fixed abode, stood abruptly, slipped off one of his Alberto Fermani wing tipped slip ons and proceeded to launch it in the direction of Arsene Wenger.

    Althought the shoe missed, it was close enough for a whoosing sound to be heard on the nearby microphones, after a deathly hush, a slow rendition of ‘Na, na na na..’ gained momentum.

  48. N5

    “Peter Wood, alias ‘Pedro’, blogger extrordinaire of Le Grove, no fixed abode, stood abruptly, slipped off one of his Alberto Fermani wing tipped slip ons and proceeded to launch it in the direction of Arsene Wenger.”

    Looooooooooooooooooooooooool.

  49. Keyser

    GOB’s – I’ve been scared to ask because I didn’t want to spend too long thinking about it, was it a bloke ? a woman who’d grown a beard ? wtf was going on ? Just why ?

  50. Keyser

    N5 – Yeah, I know, I was shocked to, they actually bothered to find out the make of the shoe and everything, good journalism that.

  51. TitsMcgee

    Keyser –
    Pedro was an invitee blogger to a presser, I hardly think it would have been appropriate to start questioning the veracity of the other journalists on the spot.”

    Lol

    He realizes this you know he’s just being a contrarian.

  52. NYCgooner

    tunnygriffboy

    That first half was the highest level of football I can remember seeing Arsenal play in many years. We have games where we scored more goals but the way everyone was playing that night, incredible stuff. If only we could find a way to sustain that form over a run of games or at least be able to rise to those levels when we really need to.

  53. Ashwin Gunner

    now that Pedro has put about sh#T journalism.. I want an honest opinion. apart from Telegraph, which other publication is believable. I dont want to waste my time in clicking on all stories on newsnow..

  54. Trini-Gooner

    Morning all,

    Really off topic, but just wondering what people think of the michael sam story? he’s been given a contract by oprah to do a docu-series about his road to making it to the NFL as the first openly gay player.

    I’m sorry but I don’t see why somebody’s sexual orientation should matter one bit in sports. The only question should be, can you play and help the team win?

    Thoughts?

  55. MidwestGun

    Keyser-
    You are obssesed by this shoe throwing notion, aren’t you. Hahaha.
    Guess you’ve never been hit with a spiked heel at a bachelor party. Not as fun as it may sound.

  56. WengerEagle

    ‘now that Pedro has put about sh#T journalism.. I want an honest opinion. apart from Telegraph, which other publication is believable. I dont want to waste my time in clicking on all stories on newsnow’

    I hear caughtoffside is pretty reliable.

  57. TitsMcgee

    Why didn’t Pedro ask probing questions – Its simple really, as soon as you ask those type of questions, you wont be invited back!”

    Somebody gets it.

  58. Keyser

    “He realizes this you know he’s just being a contrarian.”

    Of course I realise it you plum, I pointed it out to begin with, so it’s just an excersize in futility.

    Pedro should really have gone into more on the side of the monetary aspect, he almost has a lead on the Online side anyway.

  59. MidwestGun

    Trini –
    Well its the juxtaposition of religion, sexuality, and macho sports, which make it a story. All hot button topics. So Sams will be the first to cash in on that. After the story has run its course it won’t be an issue so much, anymore. If Sams truly wanted to be just another player he would wait to see if he can make it before he cashes in.

  60. Keyser

    The shoe throwing thing cracks me up, it’s just mental, he lobbed his shoe at the leader of the free world.

    It’s like when Theo did his 2-0 gesture at the Tottenham fans one of them lobbed a stale bread roll at him, wtf ? Was he a bit hungry ? Is it more aero-dynamic ? Does he work for Hovis ?

  61. Ashwin Gunner

    “Why didn’t Pedro ask probing questions – Its simple really, as soon as you ask those type of questions, you wont be invited back!”

    Somebody gets it

    Yea. And Pedro will also be in danger on not seeing that assistant chick from then on… 😛

  62. AC Gooner

    Does the future of on-line media contain eye-ball tracking function? So the blog can even see what parts of the blog are read and which not?

    Cuz i mega flew over the media 101 thought bullets today – sorry about that.

    Nice way to flirt with the PA by the way! That’s how Pedro rolls.

    I stood next to Diaby once and also thought he was pure beast – please stay healthy. Nasri on the other hand looked like a little teenager. Like one you would slap, actually.

  63. N5

    “Nasri on the other hand looked like a little teenager. Like one you would slap, actually.”

    He reminds me of Mr. Ed with all those fucking gnashers!!

  64. AC Gooner

    Trini,

    you 100% correct, sir.

    I think its great that he has the freedom to come out. Do I care really? no.

    Do I want to hear any details? Fuck no.

  65. Ashwin Gunner

    I dont understand Nasri and his girlfriends outburst on him not getting selected.

    Did Arteta make any fuss on all these years when he was left out. He never said anything bad about his country. this goes to show the real side of Samir Nasri (Not the one who blogs here 🙂 ).

    He puts himself above the interest of the team. Its not like he is going to win the WC for them.

  66. Keyser

    MidwestGun – How close are you to the ‘Deep South’ ? Is America as Polarised as the media portray ? Do you think there’s a prospect of a backlash ?

    I think Sam’s worked himself an angle, not sure how good a player he is, but like you say he could cash in, at the same time not sure how worthwhile his diary would be considering people would be wary of his fame and of how they could be documented.

    Not sure Oprah should have released that.

  67. Ozy

    Guns, “.wouldnt want raise a kid in this society tbh. too much ambiguity of genders etc.”

    With your mentality, calling her a “thing,” and being an absolute moron, I’m glad you don’t want to raise a kid. The planet will dodge a bullet there.

  68. Trini-Gooner

    Midwest,

    Cheers man, I appreciate the Americans’ take on it seeing as you are closer to home. I’m a US citizen too but living in the Caribbean so the culture is a bit different.

    I’m not anti-gay or anything, I just don’t think it should be a story. Okay, so you like men? That’s cool, why are they showing footage of a seventh round draft pick making out with his boyfriend on national television? Agenda pushing if you ask me.

  69. N5

    Trini, I agree if a player can play then I don’t care if he’s a giver/taker, white, black or purple. Muslim, Scientologist, Christian or Jew. I don’t give a hoot about their private lives in the slightest.

  70. Trini-Gooner

    AC Gooner,

    Exactly man, I’m against hate of any kind, and I think it’s great that he can go for his dreams without being persecuted, but seriously, this is 2014, who gives a shit whether you like dicks or pussies? Lol

  71. Guns of brixton

    Ozy

    Do you knw what the problem with you hyper-liberals are?

    If your not a liberal your deemed an extremist. do i agree with that ”things” doing what its doing? No, do i care? no. i passed a comment leave it at that

    Talk footie b4 it overspills.

  72. Alex James

    Guns

    Careful. The thing is being lined up by Wenger as our new striker. He would scare the pants off the oppostion!

  73. Rocky Pires

    ya WE hull will be up for it , confident to a degree but nervous and really up for it . Cant wait for match to start.

    Most nervous I ever was the Villareal match at Highbury.
    Got sick before the match and genuinely had one of those couldn’t watch Lehmanns penalty save.

  74. MidwestGun

    Keyser-
    Ya America is pretty polarized, I live about 200 miles north from what I consider the deep south. I think the backlash will be somewhat muted because of the liberal media. But there will be some from the religious right wingers.
    From what I understand Sam is a good enough player to possibly make the team, so there is some merit to the story but I think he should have waited to see if he makes the team to be taken seriously before he does a documentary, or whatever story.

  75. Tomtom

    It’s the same when radio stations get politicians to go on air.
    They go easy on them despite the fact that obvious questions need to be asked.
    They obviously feel that certain privileges and future access will be effected if they give them a hard time.
    Wenger and arsenals relasionship with the media is obviously a similiar situation

  76. Ashwin Gunner

    N5

    I agree with you mate.. who cares what he does in his bedroom. Is good enough as player. Too much is being made of such issues which doesn;t even concern normal fan….

  77. N5

    Ozy, she isn’t a woman trapped in a mans body, its just a bloke in a dress. A tranny (vestite not sexual) is just a p£rvert. They don’t think they are women trapped in mens bodies, their just blokes who like to wear knickers.