Moyes gone after failure. What constitutes failure at Arsenal???

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Welcome to Tuesday people, if you’re UK based, this is technically a Monday. But here’s the twist… it’s only a 4 day week. How good is that? So good…

So what do we have today? Well, no sooner had United officially missed out on the Champions League, their hierarchy has leaked that he was facing the sack. This morning, he was given his marching orders. Total brutality, but that’s the modern game for you. No time for people who can’t handle the top.

Big clubs don’t drop out of the champions league. Big clubs like United don’t consistently lose massive games. Big clubs deal with the problem ASAP.

I wrote last summer that bringing him in was a disastrous decision. Moyes was a hot manager a few years ago, but he really did fail to do anything with Everton other than keep them par the course (sounds like anyone you know?). This whole ‘give him time’ mantra people like Gary Neville (protecting his brothers job… never!) push makes sense if you can see a vision. Looking at what Moyes brought to United, I’d say that vision wasn’t in focus. He had no plan of action. Which probably wasn’t his fault, but in my opinion, it he’d only just found out about the job last May, he should have kept the status quo and planned his tenure this year.

That’s something Arsenal need to remember when bringing in a new manager. Don’t give whomever the chosen one is 6 minutes to pull together a plan. Start the planning now. I  find it crazy that Arsene has us on tenterhooks at the moment. I’d put the contract in front of him and tell him if he doesn’t sign him, the club has no choice but to start talking to successors. Right now, if Arsene sacked it in, I’m pretty sure we’d have our pants down without a clue what to do next.

United have been talking to new people, but regardless, they’ll probably have to suffer another year of transition (it looks very unlikely Klopp will feature according to Honigstein who is usually on-point, which is great news). Point is, they’ll have a better man in to spend their £150m. It’s a good move to sack Moyes. But a sad one for us.

Arsenal fans on the other hand won’t be so lucky. There’s still a contract on the table with very little political desire for Arsene to leave. Clearly a massive shame considering performance this year.

Someone in the comments picked up this Guardian comment. Painful, but there’s a painful truth in it.

Brutal but 100% correct call by the United board. They had to cut their losses now, there simply was no other realistic option.

Perhaps United might lose some of the hubris with this seasons turn of events. All this “club apart” rubbish spouted by the likes of Neville, dreadful arrogance brought low. They actually believed instead of getting in a top manager from outside their environment, they could take a mediocre one and the power and aura of their club alone would simply “create” one. They’ve found out the harsh way it doesn’t work like that.

Meanwhile Arsene Wenger cruises along at Arsenal, another huge contract signing no doubt imminent. Maybe he should take some time to reflect on his fortune at finding himself at a club like Arsenal rather than a genuinely big one, as this is the sort of judgement he would have been subject to.

It’s always a shame to listen to explayers talk up 4th place and an FA cup as a success (Dave Seaman). It’s that type of malaise you don’t want to hear amongst ex pros who were total winners. 4th place from being top for 128 days, with over £100m sitting on the bank is a failure whichever way you look at it. This seasons failures are even sharper because they transcend mere player purchases. Tactics, preparation, motivation, scouting, recovery and general fitness.

… but we’ll hand out a two year sentimentality deal regardless. Fans will back a manager clueless to the realities. Arsenal will stagnate further, and it’ll be ok, because it’s Arsene at the helm. Stability and stagnation seems to be a combination that’s acceptable. I find it bizarre. I find it infuriating that fans still argue the toss over Wenger’s handling of players irrespective of the evidence at hand with our disgraceful injury list, the basics of how you manage fitness very publicly available, expert testimony about the issues and the admittance of Wenger that he overplays. The fear of the fans allows this continue…

On the fitness front, I watched Liverpool at the weekend. Their head of fitness Ryland got a hug off Rodgers at the end of the Norwich game. I was looking for Tony Colbert on our bench. Nowhere to be seen. Has anyone ever seen him at a game? Ever seen him running a warm up? A very strange absence, but testament to the lack of interest in running a world class fitness team.

In other schadenfreude news, Cesc Fabregas has been selected as the player most Barca fans would like to see transferred this summer. 48% want him gone according to a poll. Imagine that? Voting out a player of that calibre. I mean, I know football fans can be a classless bunch at times, but jeez, that’s a super, super talented player you want to see the back of there.


You are banned from making transfers both inward and outward this summer.

Barca have a lot of unhappiness going on at the club. I read an article the other day that claimed Messi ran less than Valdes in the Champions League. There are also unhappy bunnies in Tello and Pedro. Give me any of those guys, particularly Messi… honestly, we could do something with him.

Talking of clubs with bans. I believe UEFA announce their black list in two weeks time.. It’ll be interesting to see how many of Europes bankrupt clubs face transfer bans… or worse… Champions League Exit orders, this summer. Rumour has it City are top of the pile of the bad men. I remember asking the question about them last summer. I’m guessing that Atletico are right up there. Paris should be. If they’re not, their outrageous commercial deals should feature heavily on someone’s investigation ‘to-do’ list.

Right, that’s me done, HAVE A GOOD ONE > x

1,084 Responses to “Moyes gone after failure. What constitutes failure at Arsenal???”

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  1. MidwestGun

    WE –
    Not one of his finest moments. Lol. But my all time favorite player and a legend. Probably the reason why there are so many Arsenal fans here in the US.

  2. N5

    Midwest it does but it about fucking time it was more than just me humoring the little prick. Time and time again he says what he wants on here and most don’t pull him up on it, tonight he got pulled up on it and has fuck all to say. To many people allow this idiot to just mock but never contribute. Fuck Marble the silly idiot.

  3. WengerEagle


    I know mate, Barca shelled out £16 million on the wrong striker in 2007, Campbell was there for the taking!

    That’s the sole reason they scored no goals in 2 legs v Man U in the 2007/08 UCL Semi final.

  4. N5

    Imagine that Eagle, if Barca had put Campbell up front they could today be a superclub rather than this joke of a club, the also rans of Europe, the QPR of Spain.

    I bet they are kicking them selves they ended up with the White Glen Helder instead! fuck Messi he’s garbage!!

  5. WengerEagle


    I’m the same mate he’s my all time favourite player too. Was a joy to watch, probably the most entertaining player of the early to mid 2000’s along with Ronaldinho.

  6. MarbleHall

    Makele , Deschamp, Ramires all water carriers and all basically crap midfielders but deployed and given the title DM when they are really defenders playing in midfield.

  7. MidwestGun

    WE –
    Ya he even shows flashes now and again in the MLS at his age. Amazing player and a great international ambassador here. But only Marble would try and discount a legendary career.

  8. Duckster

    Out Summer 2014
    Bentdner – 50k/week
    Diaby – 50k/week
    Vermy – 50k/week
    Fabianski – 20k/week
    Djourou – 40k/week
    Park – 20k/week
    Coqulain – 10k/week

  9. goonerboy

    Watching us against Hull cannot blind us to the pain we feel when playing top opposition. Yes we can score goals against Hull- and they are not quite dangerous enough upfront to exploit our weakness in front of the back 4- but its a very different story when we play the top 4 or 5.
    Teams that regularly concede 5 and 6 goals against rivals have basic defensive weaknesses- and we certainly do.
    We are psychologically and tactically defeated before we step foot on the field against top sides.
    Yet despite this being a clear pattern and the nature of the defeats getting getting heavier and more embarrassing- those running this club do nothing, about replacing the manager.
    Its unforgivable negligence.
    That is the big difference between United and Arsenal.

  10. N5

    I’ve just been onto positivelyarsenal and thought some of you would appreciate the absolute pompous horse shit that continues to spill out of hunter13 aka eyemsicks mouth.

    “lol fins i am a little satan at times i admit … but its fun to mock and bring down to earth those who consider themselves capable enough or knowledgable or even smart enough to critisise wenger and arsenal…..”

    “and this will be controversial …wenger can be said to be bigger than arsenal and a proof of that is that he gave the club foundations and assets and a technical know how on football matters that they didnt have before nor had any clue of how to get them till he opened their eyes. yes knicking games/trophies in dying seconds might sound appealing to the people’s psyche here but a sustainable stay at the very top of the game takes a lot more than that.”

    This is just from two comments out of lots from one day.

    Another comical thing about this sycophantic delusional amoeba is he claims to despise the Grove and it’s posters but nearly every other post of his is a dig at it’s community or Pedro! talk about butt hurt.

  11. MidwestGun

    N5 –
    Thought id pop over there and read today’s delusions after your comment. They actually think AW would immediately be snatched up by Man U if he quit. Hahaha. Good one! But the best part is they think we would be worried or care.
    Wow, please for the love of God yes, please Man U take AW! How can anyone in their right mind think Man U would want Arsene, hes the only manager they can consistently beat.
    For the record. Arsene has only beat Man U 13 times in 47 matches for a 27.6 % winning percent. With 23 losses for a 48.9% losing percentage.
    A minus 24 goal difference lifetime.
    In the last ten yrs we have only beaten them 6 times in 28 games.
    Yes im sure Man U is dying to get him.

  12. Jeff


    I think it’s a ploy. Wenger wants to put the frighteners on the players so they perform. As for carrying out his threat; I don’t think he will whatever happens.

    The players know that once he goes it will be the end to the easy life they’ve been used to and the loyalty they’ve been enjoying from Wenger at the club’s expense both monetarily and on the pitch. That’s my take on it anyway.

  13. bergkamplegend

    Adam : the real title of this article is == >> “wenger ready to quit if Arsenal don’t reach the 4th place this season” LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL

  14. Wolfgang

    Thanks to Midwest gun for giving Wenger’s record against MU. If the OTC want him,let him go. He will be sacked like Moyes because his style is so predictable and against top class opposition he will inevitably lose.For the record ,he has beaten only Pool out of the 5 teams. Indeed he is bottom of the class for the top 5 teams.
    If he can’t win the cup and finish 4th,he shd leave asap. Otherwise the gunners could decline even further.The problem is his tactics are one dimensional and he doesn’t bother about the defence.His record against MY is atrocious because red face knew his style;all out attack leaving big gaps for Ronaldo/Rooney to plunder bagfuls of goal.
    Any top class manager will make sure his defence is tip top. With the fm the emphasis is on attack and ball retension.He can’t/or won’t play like Liverpool/Everton who have shown the fastest way to goal is to press forward .
    This is not to say he can’t win the cup or finish 4th. It’s all in his hand.His arrogance has caused Arsenal to stagnate.

  15. bergkamplegend

    Seen a report this morning on tv, about the great fighter Vladimir Klitschko in training.

    In the back of his training shirt it was written : “FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION”.

    Looking to buy this shirt on ebay, it will be my gift to arsène, not for his next birthday, but to celebrate his new contract.