Outside sentimentality, why would you keep Arsene Wenger on?

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This match report might be a bit all over the place, you’ve had the structured argument over the past three days… this morning, I’m just totally drained by it all. I feel like a Wrestler whose been in the Royal Rumble for 2 hours… tap me out, I need a glass of water and a cry in the changing rooms.

Sadly, I can’t help but feel a deep depression after every collapse like the one we’re currently going through.  I can imagine the pain is even sharper for the fans that let Wenger back into their circle of trust. Being let down by that man isn’t a ‘thing‘ for me anymore. I know what’s coming. It’s the fans that say things like, ‘I’d give him another year’, why? There’s no answer unless it’s the fabled ‘but who?’, or ”we owe him’.

Yesterday I gave you a list of managers who would have approached that game with more passion and ingenuity than Wenger could have over the last 5 years. We don’t owe anyone a £7.5m a year living.

Our leader put out basically the same side that capitulated against Chelsea. He did nothing to the formation. He’d clearly done nothing to fire them up. There were no visible instructions on how to break down the Swansea defence. There was no pace in the side. There was nothing unusual or surprising. Just the same old Arsenal, playing the same old football.

We went down early after we lost the ball in midfield, succumbed to a quick counter and Vermaelen, in the side for the foreseeable, failed to out muscle Bony for a header which the Ivorian buried.

Swansea had a plan after that. Sit back and soak up the pressure. Arsenal had no runners and no real threat going forward. Giroud was painfully inept, even by his normal average standards. Also, note that when I say sit back, Swansea weren’t even interested in possession. A team highly praised for their deep lying keep ball tactics were hoofing the ball. We had nothing.

It was the worst home game of the season. The guys around me were as exasperated as me. People on the web critiquing the home fans have no idea what it’s like to sit in the ground, year, after year, watching the same old sh*t. You know what makes it worse? The collapse always happen around now, usually a bit earlier… and the nagging voice in the back of your head is saying,

‘Pedro, you’ve got to fork another £1000 quid out in a month’

I’ll pay it. Arsenal are my life. I need it to sustain my addiction, doesn’t mean I like handing that cash over knowing it’s going to be more of the same. If I could hibernate and come back when Wenger goes, I’d do it. Fans don’t demand success. They demand progress. Trophies are the cherry on top. Arsenal aren’t progressing, we’re consistently flogging a tired philosophy year after year in the desperate hope teams around us will regress and we’ll capitalise. It’s not going to happen. Business doesn’t work like that, sport doesn’t work like that, life doesn’t work like that. Unless you’re talking about actual life, like, when the dinosaurs were wiped out allowing us to flourish. Like with anything in life, I don’t mind failure as long as there is effort and thought behind it.

At Arsenal, we’re stuck in purgatory. It’s top four mediocrity. Never challenging, never failing so bad anything actionable can happen. It’s groundhog day. It’s being stuck in an Arsenal induced coma. It’s horrible and I CAN NEVER ESCAPE.

… and back to the game.

Then when the first sub came, it was to take our only pace on the pitch off. Chamberlain slipped off for Podolski. Some life was finally injected into our game. Some Gibbs and Rosicky  interplay outwide ended in a mazy run into the box and a perfect cut back for Lukas to tap in.

Barely a minute after kick off, Santi released Podolski down the left, he smashed a tantalising low cross into the six yard zone where Giroud was on hand to tap home. We all went nuts, maybe this was our reprieve?

It wasn’t to be, instead of capitalising on Swansea shell shock, we allowed them back in at the death with calamity defending that saw Chezzer swiped the ball at Flamini, it bounced in off him.

What a joke.

Things nearly ended in deeper embarrassment when Swansea broke in the last minute, De Guzman clear on goal, but the ref blew up! Amazingly dodgy decision. Maybe he’d had a flutter one 2-2?  A total life saver.

So if you thought our League chances were still alive before the game, it was time to hang up those dreams after.


Do I have to do this again? Really?

Arsene is done. Sure, he might win the FA cup, but don’t let people tell you that’s a kick start to him building a new team. It’s not. The kick start to a better team was last summer (and I’m being so generous here because all the hazy excuses were lifted). He failed. His second wind was the January window when he was somehow at the top of the league with no striker and all he could muster with a dead squad was Kim Kallstrom (who looked heavy footed and clunky last night). He failed. Arsene has spent the last 5 years indulging his own fantasy of usurping the big guns of the Premier League on a self imposed budget more akin to a Championship side. What about thinking about the fans Arsene?

The fans don’t pay to watch the books get balanced. We go to see out club try their absolute hardest to achieve something amazing. The stadium move was wondrous. But you can’t dine out on that ten years after its opening. A simple glance at the numbers over the last 5 years shows that Wenger hasn’t spent all that’s been available to him. This summer, he panic purchased a £43m player… and failed to land a striker. We’re a top flight European Champions League side and we have one striker.

That’s should sackable offence in itself.

The point is, an FA Cup win in itself will lift the fans, but it won’t shield the reality of the situation. We’re in a deep stagnation. The manager is acting petulantly in press conferences and no one behind the scenes seems to have the power to pull him to one side and sort this situation out.

Arsene is conceding that it’s not the league we’re chasing, it’s top four. Something I said a few weeks ago when the tower began to collapse. It’s shoddy, we’ve contested the league all season, now it’s falling down.

Our first team is decimated as well. How obvious was it that Koscielny was going to get injured? How many times did I… of no sporting background or expertise… say that we were brutalising the two centre backs? Now he’s out for a while. Ramsey still hasn’t returned. Ozil is out. Theo is out. Jack is out (admittedly, this isn’t anything to do with Arsenal). Nearly all of this is Arsene’s doing. Nearly all of this I’ve predicted all season. Am I a football genius? No. So how did I know? Because Wenger isn’t performing the basics. It’s so easy to see that he’s overplaying players. It’s so predictable they’ll eventually break. It’s so obvious he doesn’t have a game plan. It’s obvious his scouting network is shot.

Paul Scholes took an axe to Wenger last night slamming the way we play, saying something like, ‘does he just tell the midfield to go out and do what they want. Don’t worry about defending’ and he went on to say, ‘ Jack Wilshere looked a player at 17, he’s not come on. He needs a Vieira to play with’. Then you had Leonardo on the box at the weekend saying that our failures are down to poor preparation. Something most Arsenal fans have seen in Wenger sides for years has finally slinked into the mainstream press.

How can Ivan Gazidis look at the shambles that’s going on and sanction another deal? The very fact it’s down to Wenger decide is embarrassing in itself. He said he’d decide on his future based on performance. We’re now in a situation where Everton, if they win their game in hand, will be 3 points behind us. Then we’ll likely lose to City. Then we have to play Everton. Then it’s game on. Everton are fresh, they have a game plan, they have a manager who has explosive players built into his starting 11. Barkley is an absolute monster, Lukaku is a green Drogba and Delofoeu is a dream of a winger. Not to mention players like Seamus Coleman diving in with the goals as well.

… and on the goals. As my work pal just said to me, ‘Arsenal simply aren’t capable of scoring goals like that’. And he’s right. The explosion of power Barkley showed for his goal was Thierry like. Incredible.

Our FA Cup chances feel in danger now. We’ve been rumbled. Teams know how to play against an Arsenal with no pace or power. Our top four chances are under threat. Because we have two very hard games coming up that are against form teams. Why isn’t Wenger blooding Gnabry? Why has he stopped blooding Sanogo?

‘When you go through a difficult period like that, you need a bit of experience. To put young players under massive pressure at the moment like we are… It is easier said than done.’

As someone said on Twitter, ‘says the man who debuted Sanogo in the Champions League against the best team in Europe’…

If we don’t make top 4 and win the FA Cup, can the manager stay on? I’d like to think not, because that’s an utter shambles. Harry Redknapp was sacked for a far lesser offence, because his Spurs side were never contending the league. If Wenger goes, it’ll be because of inaction. Failure to address his squad deficiencies over two windows, failure to address his old fashioned approach to fitness, failure to manage his starting 11 and total failure to address his embarrassingly weak approach to tactics.

Lay it all on the table, outside of sentimentality, why would you keep him?

826 Responses to “Outside sentimentality, why would you keep Arsene Wenger on?”

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  1. MarbleHall

    Giroud poor purchase back up striker at best.
    Flamini and Sanogo bargain basement.
    Ramsey, Wilshere, Gibbs and Walcott have taken years to develop and are still miles away from being the finished article.
    Szczesny, Arteta and Bendtner the less said the better.
    Ozil is an expensive flop and Podolski is a cheap flop while Cazorla and Vermaelen have both regressed.
    Kosc is unreliable as is Monreal.

  2. london gunner


    Gerrard goal was intentional, he was centre right outside the box so he went for the top right corner. Wasn’t even close to a crossing opportunity, wrong angle and wrong distance would of been really bizarre if he tried to cross it in

    Wasn’t a great freekick as it didn’t end up in the corner but right of centre, wall/ keeper should of done better.

  3. Frankie T

    Would be satisfied next season with a new manager and a front 6 consisting of:

    Ramsey Pogba
    Walcott Remy Greizman

    2nd string:

    Wilshere rosicky
    Ox. Sanogo. Gnabry,

    Out: giroud, podolski, arteta (the three most frustrating first teamers)
    Realistically I think those 3 big new additions could cost around 65m and have a massive impact on the team.
    Will never happen but we all like to play manager.

  4. Mat

    If wenger does stay he will screw the transfer window up he will try and sign players on the last few hours of the transfer window.

  5. kwik fit

    This Liverpool team reminds me a little of the Arsenal team of 98 that came from nowhere and won the title at a canter , winning something like 12 games in a row. I can see Liverpool winning all the remaining games. Oozing confidence , they can do no wrong.

  6. bergkamp63

    MidwestGun March 26, 2014 21:07:29
    Sal –
    Why would anyone leave Las Vegas? One of lifes mysteries

    Ghastly place, and the outskirts are a delight !

  7. Johnty79

    Funny around christmas time when Liverpool were 6 points behind us that Suarez would be stupid to join us as Liverpool have a better team. I think nasri and n5 disagreed strongly…

    How times of changed.

    I’d love it if Liverpool won the league. It put any of wengers achievements to shame.

  8. Arsenal1886-2006

    Just thinking about this supposedly 2 year contract extension instead of the 3 year that arseend wants, could it be a way of getting him to walk? if Ivan sacked him then the AKB Mujahideen would be apoplectic, if he walks then they are in the clear.
    Offering two years could be seen by arseend as a public slap in the face and almost as a vote of no confidence.

  9. bergkamp63

    MidwestGun March 26, 2014 21:13:36
    Altidore has totally forgotten how to shoot.

    You mean like Cazorla !

  10. kwik fit


    Agreed but I’d rather them that Chelsea. Really have taken a dislike to Mourinho. Say what you want about Wenger, what he said was completely below the belt and uncalled for. To call Mourinho a Wanker would be extremely harsh on Wankers.

  11. london gunner

    The slick passing from Liverpool puts us to shame, its quick sharp interchanges to move the ball around the pitch with, suarez or sturridge pealing of making runs and looking for that throughball.

    Coutinho first touch and dribbling is class.

  12. bergkamp63

    I said at the start of this season that Liverpool would finish above us this year, you could see from last season how much they improved as a team.

    Expect Rodgers to buy at least 1 decent CB and maybe a full back this summer. They will be stronger next year than this.

  13. Arsene's Nurse

    Arsenal1886-2006 March 26, 2014 21:09:13


    I gave up drink and drugs years ago but I feel like a drink these days, that is what happens when you place your trust in somebody else.
    I have become comfortably numb (to it all).

  14. MarbleHall

    The flowing passing football of the late nineties to the early noughties was down to the players not Wenger.
    It can’t be down to him because he can’t replicate it with inferior players.

  15. kwik fit

    Liverpool are playing with complete confidence probably because of the quality of their free scoring front two. Take their front two out of their squad and I’d prefer our squad anytime. Liverpool have been very lucky with injuries. They’ve have had a few defensive issues but their front six have been intact almost all season. Had we have had the same luxury, a decent striker, and manager, things would have been so different.

  16. WengerEagle

    Watching Sevilla v Real Madrid, so far a very good match.

    1-1 with Ronaldo scoring a FK.

    Sevilla play some very good football, Rakitic is a player in particular that I would like us to sign in the summer

  17. kwik fit

    london gunner

    I agree. It was an inspired signing by rodgers. Coutinho was injured earlier in the season when they were flying and they then struggled for a few weeks while he was out. He’s vital in their set up. He makes things happen. Again they would struggle if he or suarez got injured.

  18. kwik fit


    Has I get older my hangovers are harder and harder to get over. It still doesn’t stop me trying though . To get a leg over that is 😉

  19. london gunner


    The problem is we all know Rogers had an eye for talent and with CL football (at least) He will spend every penny of that money and what ever else on quality additions.

  20. WengerEagle

    Benzema’s basically playing as a number 10 to cater for Ronaldo playing where he wants.

    I for one reckon he could be persuaded to swap Madrid for Arsenal if he was convinced he would be our main man up front, and we desperately need a player of his quality.

    You think that would make the fans happy, wait until you see Ozil’s reaction.

  21. abfp

    Man Utd 0 – 3 Man City
    Newcastle 0 – 3 Everton
    West Ham 2 – 1 Hull City
    26 Mar 20:00 Liverpool Liverpool 2 – 1 Sunderland Sunderland

  22. abfp

    Man Utd 0 – 3 Man City
    Newcastle 0 – 3 Everton
    West Ham 2 – 1 Hull City
    Liverpool 2 – 1 Sunderland

    Could that really be a coincidence?

  23. WengerEagle

    So Liverpool hold out for the win.

    They could well do it you know, home matches against Chelsea and City will decide it and they are excellent at Anfield.

    Gerrard 7 wins away from the one trophy that’s always eluded him (and Pool)

  24. Cesc Appeal


    Player’s are irrelevant though, as long as Wenger is in charge we’ll never line up properly to suit the big teams, we’ll never have the tactics in place, we’ll always suffer a wave of injuries every year.

    Short of signing a whole bunch of worldies Arsenal won’t be successful.

  25. Dream10

    Look at Sunderland giving Liverpool a better game than us.

    Oh Lord. It still baffles me how poor we were at Anfield, Stamford Bridge and Eastlands.

    You see Aston Villa fight against Chelsea, Sunderland fight against Pool and Wigan fight against Citeh.

    And you look at the shower of shit we produced. Smh

  26. WengerEagle


    Agree, was supposed to say if we appointed a new manager and he targeted players for the summer.

    Wenger wouldn’t dream of signing Benzema as it would upset his beloved Olivier.

  27. Same Story

    ”Benzema’s basically playing as a number 10 to cater for Ronaldo playing where he wants.”

    Lol it’s reported that Ronaldo doesn’t enjoy playing with Morata becauses he ‘plays in his zones’.

  28. london gunner


    Honest question, why are American commercials so awful?

    They are always like infomercials selling some crappy product or about suing someone or something.

    This is in no way a dig at America by the way as you guys have made the best Movies and some of the best TV shows of all time.

    But watching your adverts I am always struck by how cheesy they are and who would possibly fall for them.

    Currently an advert is on about diet pills CALL NOW!!!

  29. WengerEagle

    ‘Lol it’s reported that Ronaldo doesn’t enjoy playing with Morata becauses he ‘plays in his zones’.’

    Ronaldo and Van Persie would get on like a house on fire.

  30. MidwestGun

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    Ask around at the strip clubs for a good recommendation. Might even be able to persuade a girl there. Do not call any of the girls on the little cards they hand out on the strip. You dont get the girls on the cards.

    Lol. Hope that helps.

  31. Dream10

    Wenger Eagle

    Benzema is gloriously talented. He is at least as talented as Falcao, Aguero, Suarez and Cavani, but lacks their aggression. He misses too many chances as well.

    I think he would be the ideal second striker to somebody like Diego Costa. A number 10 to Costa’s number 9. Difficult to win a major cup with him as a lone striker in a 4-2-3-1.

  32. WengerEagle

    Still can’t believe Madrid paid £85 million for Bale.

    Surely the little shits from down the road would have snapped their hand off for even £50-£60 million?

  33. MidwestGun

    London –
    You make a good point about commercials. They are very targeted based on the show and time slot. Most commercials are targeted for women because they make the buying decisions.

  34. Steve

    Apparently Brendan Rogers is only paid £2m a year with 1 year left on his contract.

    I wonder if there is a buyout clause ?

  35. london gunner

    Wenger Eagle

    Money well spent! Bale is an incredible player… can’t believe people were slating Bale for not showing up in a clasico in his very first season Lol.

    Guy is super young will only get better and is a perfect match for Real Madrids type of football and his going to sell a fuck load of shirts! Win Win for Madrid

  36. Wengers Plastic Bottle


    Coutinho is a very good player

    reminds me sometimes of a young Fabregas in terms of his passing

  37. WengerEagle


    I’m with you on Benzema, he’s ridiculously underrated IMO considering he gets you 20+ goals and 20+ assists a season.

    Also agree that he’s a better baller than the strikers you name barring Suarez and Ageuro maybe but you’re right in that he’s not as ruthlessly efficient and lacks their killer instincts.

    I think a big part of this is because he’s second fiddle to CR7 who dominates Real’s attack and demands the ball at all times. Back in his Lyon days he was actually a more clinical striker IMO and I think he could get back to being that player combined with the excellent passing and team play abilities he has developed at Madrid which would be a frightening combination.

    I think he would do a great job at leading the line for us and his partnership with Ozil would be mouth-watering

  38. london gunner

    In a globalised world, with social media and young fans constantly switching their allegiances to differt clubs until they settle on one…

    If Liverpool win big this season expect a huge amount of Liverpool fans to appear all over the world and expect sudden huge upturns in revenues. Not just from the obvious winning of the completion.

    Look at Man City it only took winning an FA Cup and a title over a couple years of success for them to massively expand their fan and revenue base and that’s without doing well in Europe.

  39. WengerEagle

    Diego Costa’s just smashed in his 32nd goal of the season.

    Chelsea will be a force to be reckoned with in the BPL and in Europe next season if they land him.

  40. london gunner

    What I mean about US commercials is that in UK we have those really shit infomercial type adverts that are used for idiots with a phone and credit card next to them but they are aimed at the weird dregs of society as they are aired at 4am.

    WE also have the infomercial channels.

    But I remember as a kid being at mums best mates house who is American she had American TV on, the adverts were exactly the same infomercial stuff no matter what time or show as they are today.

    Weird shit like buy this arse scratcher that functions as a pen, buy NOW while sales last.

  41. Dream10

    Wenger Eagle

    A 4-3-1-2 lineup with two DMs and Ramsey in the three with Ozil behind Benzema and Costa would be amazing.

    But this is Arsenal with Kroenke, Gazidis and Wenger. (Translation: Don’t dream)

  42. kwik fit


    Yeah he has some of Cesc’s traits but may be faster. Still think that Rodger’s needs more players than us. Having said that Rodgers can compensate because he understands tactics and how to vary team shape against different teams.

  43. WengerEagle

    ‘Rakitic is Quality! Where the hell has this guy come from??’

    He’s been quality for years mate, was a very good player for Schalke as a youngster too.

  44. Dream10

    Brendan Rodgers has to be holding out for more money. He sees Wenger on 7.5+ and Mourinho on 12 or 13. He knows he deserves more.

    If he loses Suarez this summer, who knows how long he will stay.

  45. london gunner

    Costa is absolute quality but his the least Brazilian striker I have ever seen.

    A Big Strong weapon (that’s what she said ;)) a bit crude and clumsy but oh so efficient (that’s what she said)

  46. babatunde

    Brendan rodgers would compete for the pl again next season with additions of draxler, schneiderlin and ginter. He could also go far in the cl too. A smart thing for him to do next season is to resist the temptation of playing a good team in the fa and carling next year. Its just not worth it. He needs to play academy boys in those and probably Crash out asap as getting CL football again is most important. This liverpool side should go far but will probably be built up slowly. If I was a neutral, I would be impressed. Actually I already am.

  47. WengerEagle

    london gunner

    Couldn’t agree more, he’d be great for us. He has 12 goals and 17 assists so far this season which is a remarkable return for a midfielder in any side never mind an average Spanish side

  48. kwik fit

    I said earlier that Wenger visits Le Grove at least sex times a day. That wasn’t quite correct. What I meant to say was that he visits Le grove while having sex. He finds it a real turn on. You could say he comes here often.

  49. london gunner

    Messi is better than Ronaldo

    close control in tight spaces Messi Wins hands down.

    Messi’s great passing ability/ vision.

    Messi is up there with the best passers of the game his on par with the worlds best playmakers…. just he has so much scoring prowess not many talk about it.

    Ronaldo is stronger, faster taller and a more powerful shot but some how Messi’s technique just enables him to be the better footballer its incredible.

  50. babatunde

    If rodgers basically ignores the two domestic cups next year, he would be playing about the same number of matches as he did this year with a deeper better squad. He may need to do that for two or three years before they are strong again but if I was a liverpool fan, I would understand. He would get slaughtered if he plays all the competitions except he spends 100 million. Whhen u consider that winning the FA only gives u 2m

  51. Radio Raheem

    Rakitic was linked with us when he was at Schalke. Good player but I want more powerful players. If he came I think he’ll be fighting with Ramsey or Ozil for a starting spot.

  52. london gunner

    Messi in his “worst” season has scored 22 goals and 10 assists in 23 games played with 117 shots.

    Ronaldo has scored 27 and assisted 7 in 27 games with 194 shots

    Both insane players

    Cost 24 goals 3 assists in 29 games with only 93 shots.

  53. babatunde

    Madrid lost. Good. The league is now barcelona’s to lose. So much for them being in turmoil. People are quick to make judgements following the latest fads , though. I am not ignoring atletico but like arsenal, don’t think they will win it. I think its btw the big two. By the way, simeone appears to be a proper manager. Good for him. He is showing just how to be a big coach on scarce resources. Its a pity though as I don’t think athletico will last because of their structural problems. It could be a good thing for whatever club he would go to next though. I don’t like his style too much and I am nt sure he is fitted for arsenal(although I am certain he is more fit than wenger)

  54. Radio Raheem

    Ronaldo is a top player but comes across as such a cunt. It might sound like a wrong thing to say but I think he is a major reason Real are not fully exploiting their potential. He just suffocates others in the team. CUNT

  55. kwik fit

    Do you guys really rate Costa that highly? Personally I prefer the frothy latte’s at Cafe Nero! Night Night everyone! Remember hands above the blankets 😉

  56. london gunner

    I don’t think they will sell Bale his only 23 24 right?

    Ronaldo is allot older than he seems at 29 in two years he will be 31 and Bale will start hitting his peak.

    Bale will never be Ronaldo but to be even half the player is something.

  57. babatunde

    Rodgers simeone and to a lesser extent(I think) garcia are really doing well and making a name for themselves. Good for them

  58. Dream10

    Radio Raheem

    Agree with you on Rakitic. No space for him. I think it would better for Ramsey if he does not play in the double pivot in front of the back four. A midfield of two new DMs, Ramsey and Oezil would be tremendous. Less defending for Aaron as well.