Wenger, Per and Sagna sign da ting: Reaction | Arsenal hold on to take important 3 points

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What to say about the Villa game eh? You know when your team has turned into a winning machine when you don’t have anything to complain about. I mean, jeez, I’m really struggling to have a bitch today…

Wenger rotated in our star men, he kept some of the fringe on and we played out a; in the main, comfortable game.

Olivier Giroud missed himself two relatively easy chances in the opening 7 minutes. He glanced a free header wide on 4 minutes, and then he failed to connect with a low cross on 7 minutes.

Arsenal controlled possession against a timid Villa side clearly very nervous about taking a hammering. Our opener came after a Monreal give and go, the Spaniard cut Jack in on the edge of the area, he shifted his weight and poked an inch perfect cross goal shot into the back of the net. As he peeled off the celebrate, he made an ‘A’ with his fingers…

… Jack, mate, Adebayor left ages ago. Really didn’t get that?

Before I’d even had time to note down the goal, Wilshere found Giroud with a floated pass after winning it off Delph, the Frenchman brought it down majestically, kneed it clumsily for his second touch, and then buried home like a boss with his third. A great goal that really sums Olivier up.

The rest of the half was Arsenal in rest mode. It was like watching a really boring warm down. I had the feeling we were a little too casual. That fear was realised in the second half when Santi lost the ball out wide, a cross was nipped in to the back post where Benteke, a player suffering some severe second-season-itis, was on hand to score a diving header.

My flat mate and I agreed at this point that not enough diving headers were scored these days. A classic goal. Though not as rare as the scissor kick.

That goal put the frighteners on the team. All of a sudden, our slick passing disappeared. Villa grew with confidence and Villa Park started to heat up with some real noise. You sensed we could concede a goal. I wasn’t sure whether old fears died hard, or we really were losing control. Rosicky slowed down the game when he took a forearm to the face and broke his nose (well, it looked like he had). The ref didn’t stop play despite seeing the player was gushing blood. In fairness to Villa, we didn’t stop play when we had the advantage.

Anyway, when play did resume, Benteke missed an absolute sitter from 6 yards. Heading into the keepers arms. Really poor play, you have to say.

6 minutes of injury time played out, we took the three points, Wenger called Lambert a ‘vieux chatte’ for maximum fulltime LOLz… we all went home happy. Well, maybe not Monreal because there were rumours of a broken metatarsal.

Concluding Points

Rotation has paid dividends…

Arsene has loosened up on the fear factor. The team we put out was pretty well rested and our bench looked as strong as it has all season. He’s now far more comfortable rotating than he was. It’s not perfect. He’ll need to sharpen it up if he really wants the league, but it’s getting better.

For me, this is where trophies are won and lost… if he gets it right, I think we’ll win the Premiership.

Podolski is not favoured…

This shouldn’t come as news to people. Even when he was flavour of the month, he was pulled off every game (substituted you foul people). Wenger doesn’t seem to hold him in that high esteem. I noted in the summer that the feeling at the club was that he’d be off if there was a decent offer. Yesterday, he wasn’t given a run out again. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave this summer.

Monreal…

He doesn’t look particularly graceful going forward, but he ain’t half effective and he’s very measured in his approach to bombing on. He had a lovely assist for the first goal, he defended well and his quality has allowed us to give Kieran Gibbs some breathing space.

Giroud…

He is what he is I’m afraid. He’s a hard working English centre forward who makes the most of his ability. He’s capable of moments of magic, but he’s also capable of moments of ‘what the f*ck did you do there’… that’s fine. He came up with a decent goal yesterday. He’s not super elite, but hey, nor was Alan Smith and we all loved him, right? It’d be great to get some striker support for him regardless.

The big news…

The manager is rumoured to have signed a new deal along with Sagna and Mertesacker. That’s banging news as far as I’m concerned. Firstly, Per and Sagna have been essential to the team this year. Both are capable of being the captain of our great club. They’re ambassadors on and off the pitch. They embody everything you’d want in a foreign player. Totally bought into the heritage and the culture of the club.

On Arsene Wenger, I said in September when this deal was first mooted that I didn’t agree with handing out £7.5m a year for someone who hadn’t proved anything. Well, we’re in mid-January, we’re in the FA Cup, the Champions’ League group stages after navigating the group of death and we’re topping the league. That’s off the back of some transformative changes to his management game and his approach to player values. Not to mention the fact that we cleared £500k worth of dead wood and we topped the calendar league table. So this isn’t a fluke… it’s where we are as a club.

So basically, despite still having reservations about him in certain areas, I can’t complain. As far as I’m concerned, 75% of the issues Le Grove has campaigned against for years have been addressed over the past two years.

Also, I think we’re in a fantastic position stability wise. I think big players will look at the Alex Ferguson departure at United and worry. We’re an even more attractive proposition this season because of the saga in Salford. Now we’re talking about signing superstar talent like Draxler and Diego Costa. That’s where we need to be as a club. We’re at the top table and Wenger has been integral in making that happen.

At the start of last summer I said it was the perfect storm for big changes as so it has proved. Arsene wanted a new deal and he pulled out all the stops to get one. I’m glad he didn’t get a rise as well… apparently he’s performance bonused quite heavily. Another masterstroke from Ivan… target him on winning, not breaking even.

So bravo. If a manager can change his approach, I can change my opinion of the situation.

Onwards and upwards…

 

 

705 Responses to “Wenger, Per and Sagna sign da ting: Reaction | Arsenal hold on to take important 3 points”

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  1. El Patron

    “If City and Chelsea beat us in the 2 games,m we absolutely dont win the league, guaranteed.”

    Highly doubt that. You really saying that City and Chelsea wont drop any more points rest of the season? only Arsenal can stop them? really? thats what it sounds like.

  2. MarbleHall

    El Patron
    “I for one doesn’t care whether we beat the best teams in the league or not. It’s irrelevant. Manchester united won the league last year and Lost to chelsea, City and couldn’t beat Spurs etc. They still won the league by a mile.”

    Man Utd beat both Chelsea and Man City away last season.

  3. Nasri's Mouth

    I think Man City’s latest set of financial results are out soon. Might help when we’re comparing the 2 teams

  4. TitsMcgee

    “Tits – Top of the league and you can’t explain it, don’t want to understand it and are just rambling on.”

    You seem to be confused.

    “Top of the league” in mid-January. Great. Better than 5th but what point is it if we’re just going to needlessly spunk it away due to inaction.

    I love how you make it seem like this is what Wenger knew would happen , like this was his master plan all along.

    *Wenger back in 2005*: everything will come together in 2013-2014. All my boys will be mature and we’ll ride out the season with a lone french striker”

    ??

    We’re fortunate to be top IF we can’t be the better sides(as we haven’t been so far) we won’t be there much longer. Nobody cares “why” we’re top come mid-Jan because mid-Jan isn’t the goal.

  5. Cesc Appeal

    Tits

    Don’t excite me with links like that! There’s a buy out clause of £38 Million I think, reports say active in January and the Summer – so Podolski and £25 Million just makes sense if Schalke will take it…

    If Wenger doesn’t favour/trust/like/whatever Podolski he might as well get in a guy he clearly really loves. Don’t think it’s any secret that Wenger has a serious liking for Draxler. And Draxler has made flattering remarks about Arsenal recently.

    Also, not sure about Wenger getting a new deal already. He hasn’t actually done anything yet, in 2010/2011 we were chasing the title, in the CC Final, the FA Cup and had just beaten Barca in the UCL…what happened there?

    Arguably now we have less star quality but a better ‘team’ than then…but there are still glaring areas he needs to address and unfortunately (for him) it’s going to take some serious money to do it, properly anyway.

    If Wenger were to land a Draxler in January, even before winning anything I’d be happy with him getting a new deal, it’ll signal Ozil wasn’t some pressurized blip and he really has turned a corner and is actively pursuing glory.

  6. Uche

    @Barton
    Theo & Poldi are not, never have been and never will be strikers.

    Actually, Podolski was a striker at Koln before he went to Bayern, and during his second stint there too. So….. I call crap.

    Granted, it was in a two striker formation.

  7. TitsMcgee

    “I think the thing that’s getting to me is that we were obviously after a striker in summer, we had our targets and got knocked back, I can accept that part but we’ve had a further 5 months or so to find one and still no closer.”

    You win the grand prize.

    Not only that it was obvious how desperate we were in summer(see attempted move for the avg BA 6 mths after we passed on him from Newcastle) but now we’re still in “let’s see what deals we can get” mode.

  8. El Patron

    @MarbleHall

    Even if they lost both those games (6points) they still would have won the league. My point still stands. We don’t NEED to even if it would be nice for the fans to. Its Maths… not pundits.

  9. gambon

    Uche

    thats a pathetic argument.

    Man City were taken over and looking to become the best team in the PL (which they achieved…..didnt mention that did you)

    They had to buy a whole new team.

    In case you notice,……we dont need to do that.

    The situations arent comparable.

    You also fail to mention that Man City also recieved a lot of money selling some of them, so the net cost wasnt £200m.

    What you also fail to mention is that over half of those strikers listed are better than any striker we have and would greatly improve us.

    If youre so terrified of money being spent maybe go and support Leyton orient.

  10. Cesc Appeal

    If you want a good laugh, go and read the Daily Mail’s predicted end to the season.

    We lose games to people like Stoke and Liverpool – draw at home to people like Swansea and United.

    Then beat Spurs away and City at home eventually finishing FOURTH…behind Liverpool and 6 points off of winners City.

    The article literally has no basis in fact…total guesswork…I cannot believe someone sanctioned it.

  11. TitsMcgee

    Jan Aage Fjortoft ‏@JanAageFjortoft 2h
    German paper Bild today: Are Schalke preparing for Draxler’s Departure?
    SportDirector Heldt: -We hope he stays, but we can’t influence
    #AFC
    Expand

  12. Barton

    UcheJanuary 14, 2014 15:01:49
    @Barton
    Theo & Poldi are not, never have been and never will be strikers. Actually, Podolski was a striker at Koln before he went to Bayern, and during his second stint there too. So….. I call crap.Granted, it was in a two striker formation.

    Ok, he’s played there for a second rate German team but top class out and out striker he aint.

    Theo will tell you all day he’s a striker, still doesn’t make him one.

  13. gambon

    “Even if they lost both those games (6points) they still would have won the league.”

    How do you know?

    have you run a simulation that looked at what happened if City beat UTD at Eastlands last season?

    Everything wouldve been different, every susequent game wouldve been different.

    Its absolutely pathetic and embarrassing that so many Arsenal fans have such a huge inferiority complex that they are advocating losing big games as long as we pick up enough points against small teams.

    How funny would that be. Winning the PL but being terrified of facing 3 of the 19 teams in the PL.

  14. Leedsgunner

    gambon @1424

    Don’t let Uche wind you up.

    He believes all top teams play with with a system where their striker is not their top scorer and top strikers are not that important. Obviously faultless logic… except that in AFC case where our midfield doesn’t score we tend to lose.

    Off the top of my head I can only think of three games we won solely due to Giroud, Tottenham 1-0 at home, Newcastle 0-1 away and last night. Great, well Giroud… but it can’t hide from the fact that for the majority of the season his goalscoring deficiency has been papered over by the generosity of midfield comrades.

    It’s ok to say Giroud’s not good enough for AFC. Do I want him at the squad yes, certainly. Does he offer a viable alternative yes. But it doesn’t mean he should be leading the line.

    The sooner we got a proper striker for AFC the better the club will be.

  15. TitsMcgee

    taiye ogunnaike ‏@EveretteAmore 33m
    @JanAageFjortoft u told us about podolski 6 months before it happened. I hope draxler joins

  16. gambon

    When the Shalke guy says “we cant influence” he is referring to the buyout clause.

    Now like i say, i really dont see us paying £45m

  17. Marko

    I like the look of Zouma or Schar in the summer. Young enough that they’d be content with playing back up to Kos and Merte and knowing full well that they’d be the future of the club. Also I’m not too against given Wenger a new deal (as long as it’s only for a year or 2) but I would of waited to see what he does this month. Moreso cause I look around and there’s no one decent available come the summer except maybe Low after the World Cup. Also I’d love to think that if someone like Simeone or Klopp became available for whatever reason that they’d do something similar to what Bayern did as in have Wenger decide to retire at the end of whatever season so one of said managers can take over. All if’s and butts really

  18. TitsMcgee

    Adebayor 24m
    Santa Cruz 8m
    Jo 18m
    Balotelli 20m
    Tevez 25m
    Jovetic 23m
    Dzeko 27m
    Negredo 22m
    Aguero 35m

    (Did I miss anyone?)Yeah, I don’t think we spend 202m in 4 years playing mix and match, just to make pundits and fans comfortable about our squad depth.Oil money is real

    202m? no.

    Could we have spent 25m and backed up poor Giroud with someone besides oxygen? Yes.

  19. Marko

    I’d like a Zouma or Schar in the summer. Young enough that they’d be content with playing back up to Kos and Merte and knowing full well that they’d be the future of the club.

    Also I’m not too against given Wenger a new deal (as long as it’s only for a year or 2) but I would of waited to see what he does this month. Moreso cause I look around and there’s no one decent available come the summer except maybe Low after the World Cup. Also I’d love to think that if someone like Simeone or Klopp became available for whatever reason that they’d do something similar to what Bayern did as in have Wenger decide to retire at the end of whatever season so one of said managers can take over. All if’s and butts really

  20. Leedsgunner

    “I think the thing that’s getting to me is that we were obviously after a striker in summer, we had our targets and got knocked back, I can accept that part but we’ve had a further 5 months or so to find one and still no closer.

    Who’s to say were going to find one come summer?”

    Well said, Barton.

    Exactly. If we are going to spend – we need to do it now.

  21. gambon

    Thing i do find hilarious is all the “xxx said about the xxx deal months before it happened”

    99% of the time that statement is bollocks.

    Its like a new craze. Initially the craze was to be an ITK, now the deluded masses love to say “oh he gets everything right” when its absolute bollocks.

    theres no such thing as a real “ITK” – just a lot of guesses, usually a public wish list rather than real knowledge.

    Notice there are 1000s of ITK when it comes to Draxler, Ozil, Cavani but no one predicted Sanogo, Monreal etc.

  22. MarbleHall

    The psychology of winning those games and the manner it was achieved was both damaging to Chelsea, Man City and the rest of the league and gave Man Utd an insurmountable edge over it’s rivals.

  23. El Patron

    gambon

    Don’t over react and proceed with your soliloquy.

    I fully understand we should be beating the best teams in the league. I agree with you so relax.

    I’m just saying the need to beat these teams is overated because it IS possible to win the league without beating them. It might be a hollow title to some but its a title. I don’t care. The same way we don’t care if Arsenal score and the scorer was offside.

  24. Keyser

    Tits – We’re stuck here, if you can’t explain why we are where we are, then you’re never going to learn anything, whether we be top in January or 4th come May, or sitting there moaning about us all summer, while going on endlessly about how great Tottenham’s spending was.

  25. Marko

    On Draxler he’d be a fantastic signing for sure but I’d prefer we spent serious money on another striker and someone like Griezmann who’d be cheaper could also come in and do a brilliant job for us. In fact some reports having us linked to Giovinco after Griezmann is like being promise a blow job only then to get a kick up the arse. Griezmann is good is what I’m saying

  26. TitsMcgee

    “Now like i say, i really dont see us paying £45m”

    Therein lies the problem with the Keyser’s/Wenger types.

    We hold out for “top quality” but then scoff at paying “top quality” prices.

    If that is the case then why the scorning of the Bneteke’s and Negredo’s of the world.

  27. gambon

    Dont think Griezmann brings anything new to the team.

    Hes a good finisher, no doubt.

    But Draxler has things we dont have. Unpredictable, explosive, dribbler who can score from all angles.

    Dont think Griezmann has close to the talent, hes just using it well at present.

  28. TitsMcgee

    “while going on endlessly about how great Tottenham’s spending was.”

    Tottenham lost a good player, used the money to bring in reinforcements. Hasn’t worked out well for them yet but they didn’t sit down and hoard the money like squirrels.

  29. Pedro

    Gambon, that Geoff Arsenal chap gets a lot right. So did Dean guy before his guy got busted.

    In the main, hardly anyone gets transfers right… because most of the time, Wenger barely know what he’s up to.

  30. Uche

    @gambon
    If youre so terrified of money being spent maybe go and support Leyton orient

    Nah, I actually like the team I support, Arsenal, for who they were, who they are, and who they’re going to be. On the other if you’re so in love with high priced player, go support Man city or Chelsea. I’m sure you’d be much happier in life.

    Tevez was sold for 8m, Jo’s contract was terminated, Santa Crus’ contract expired, Adebayor’s was sold for 5m, the other 4 are still there. So that’s 13m recouped from 93m spent and 1 prem title to show for it from Tevez. that investment went so well, that they had to spend an extra 109m on their current strikers. Good business? I don’t think so.

  31. Keyser

    Lol you mean apart from Ozil.

    I mean I try, I really do, N5 where are you.

    “Therein lies the problem with the Keyser’s/Wenger types.
    We hold out for “top quality” but then scoff at paying “top quality” prices.”

    What do I say to this ?

  32. Uche

    @tits
    you’re kind of a hopeless case. At least gambon make points. Giroud isn’t backed up by oxygen. Bendtner, Podolski, Sanogo. You might not rate them but they still play for us.

    And what everyone is trying to point out to you is that spending money is not a guarantee of success as pointed out by City for 4 years. And we don’t have oil money to rely on. For us, sometimes not spending and relying on the squad is the better option.

  33. TitsMcgee

    The 55m for Suarez is looking like a bargain right now. Wonder if Wenger has nightmares over not pulling the finger out.

  34. Leedsgunner

    “In the main, hardly anyone gets transfers right… because most of the time, Wenger barely know what he’s up to.”

    If this is indeed the case why are we allowing to spend millions upon millions of the club’s money? Why are we paying him millions of the club’s money?

  35. gambon

    Pedro

    Geoff talks in riddles, like one of them physcic healers.

    “Im sensing theres a guy in the audience, his name begins with P and hes a doctor”

    “Oh my god im called Tom, but my nickname is Plodder, and i trained to be a doctor but am now a train driver, you know me so well”

    like I say, there are no real ITKs in public, just a few that keep quiet, like the guy that lost his job at Arsenal.

    If Geoff, or anyone was a real ITK, they would be multi millionaires with the rise of transfer betting.

  36. Marko

    I dunno Gambon Griezmann is the natural sucessor to Ribery he’s on something like 12 goals in his last 13/14 league games he certainly looks like he can make the grade at a top tier club. I rate him higher than Shaqiri

  37. TitsMcgee

    Bendtner, Podolski, Sanogo. You might not rate them but they still play for us.”

    Sanogo? Hasn’t played since September.

    Bendtner looks serviceable but only compared to Giroud and don’t forget Wenger himself wanted to ship him out over summer.

    Podolski can’t play up top.

    So you were saying?

    Let’s not get desperate now. There’s a reason Wenger runs Giroud into the ground.

  38. Simon

    Griezmann would be fantastic. Great pace, a good replacement for Theo. I pray for Draxler though – I think he’ll become a great player. Really hope that happens this window. He’ll be expensive after WC too. Down to Shalke though – they won’t make cl next year.

  39. TitsMcgee

    “For us, sometimes not spending and relying on the squad is the better option.”

    Nice and convenient excuse. It would hold water if we didn’t do it every single year for almost a decade”

  40. N5

    Pedro good point about some being more reliable a source than others but like gambon says there is no such thing as in the know. You’ll get people that say about the Ozil signing a day or so before it happens from various chatter and you’ll get others saying Arsenal will be buying Cavani for 70 million to get clicks on their pages.

  41. Leedsgunner

    … and for those of you trumpetting the well worn line, “There aren’t any quality players in January…”

    Suarez, Evra, Vidic, Mascherano and Daniel Sturridge were all signed in January.

    Where there’s a will there’s a way.

  42. Pedro

    Gambon, I think he’s a bit of a mouthpiece for the club… because he’s not been shut down and Arsenal are so hot on leaks… not to mention his insatiable love for Arsene Wenger.

  43. gambon

    Dont see why people are saying Draxlers price will go up after the WC.

    He will be lucky to play.

    Schurrle and Reus will play ahead of him id imagine.

  44. TitsMcgee

    We just spent the second highest transfer fee for a player in the UK ever.Breathe mate. You’ll make more sense!”

    Great. Does he score goals?

    Ozil is a fantastic player but he’s not a striker is he?

    Funny how when backed into a corner Ozil’s name always pops up like anyone was discrediting Ozil.

  45. gambon

    “Funny how when backed into a corner Ozil’s name always pops up like anyone was discrediting Ozil.”

    Now you see why im worried Ozil was a one off to shut the crowd up and give the illusion of a club that want to compete?

    Hes already being used to try to silence anyone that questions the clubs direction.

    One of net spend of £30m and the sheep like Simon are happy for another 5 years of underinvestment.

    Even with the Ozil purchase we have criminally underinvested in the last 5 years.

  46. Simon

    Leeds

    You know fewer people move, especially fewer of any quality, in January.

    I want it too but it does not mean it is going to happen. Hoping for Julian…

  47. TitsMcgee

    “Even with the Ozil purchase we have criminally underinvested in the last 5 years.”

    I agree and it only warrants mentioning that the jury is still out on whether the Ozil purchases signifies that Wenger has actually “changed” or if it was just a one-off.

    The circumstances around the transfer lends to the notion that it may indeed be a one-off. Hopefully that is inaccurate.

  48. Simon

    I think the club has changed. We are basically chucking a bunch of money to the bottom line rather than relying on one off property deals and player sales.

  49. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    I actually agree with that table.

    I think the game at Chelsea will decide which one of us finishes above the other. They’ll be a point or two in it. City just a neck ahead of that. 4th a bit further behind, as that table says 5-6 points.

    Yeah, I think that’ll be spot on. Can’t see anyone but City taking the title unless the wheels fall off massively.

  50. Leedsgunner

    Sad that we are reduced to hoping the manager spends the money that he has to strengthen in two or two positions, rather than knowing that he will because of his ambition for the club.

    Shame that he wants the fans to pay top top prices to watch a squad who he thinks is good enough to muddle through… because in his words “we have no shortages.”

    Yes, yes, yes, I know they are at the top, and I’m thankful for it, but I want them to stay there. That’s why I want the club to make 1 or 2 key signings. Does that really make me a “hater”? Yes, they are top now but unfortunately there are no trophies given for being top on January 14. They only give trophies for being top at the end of May.

    Shame that isn’t it?

  51. gambon

    Leeds

    I dont have an issue with us not spending in January, it is hard to find quality, and the level of player we want just might not be possible.

    But I really dont buy that there was a change in policy this ummer

    It was basically the most pathetic summer ive ever seen until the last day, where we made an opportunistic signing.

    I really dont think we went into the summer with a proactive plan to strengthen.

    This is why im not convinced much good will happen in the next few windows.

  52. Barton

    I was prepared to go along with people who said, oh well we tried in summer, we’ll certainly get a striker in Jan.

    Starting to feel like ground-hog day, now its wait till summer.

  53. Leedsgunner

    gambon

    I suppose I don’t trust the club to spend big in the summer. Everyone will be doing it… and if we are not going to be able to compete on wages, we need something to set us us apart from the others… what about the title of defending EPL Champions? or defending Uefa CL Champions? Then we would be negotiating from a position of strength for once. Remember that? We used to negotiate from strength and not just complain about how other’s were stronger… ahh those halycon days.

  54. BillikenGooner

    Seems like a lot are expecting Podolski to get shipped out, yet we use the “German contingent” as a selling point to attract more Germans. Plus, it seems all the players love Podolski (it could just mean he just posts more smiling/happy/’good times’ stuff)… question is, would dumping Podolski have an averse effect on the squad and that particular attraction?

    I’m sure it can be argued it doesn’t matter because it’s all about the business side, but even Wenger and the players talk about the ‘feel’ on the squad , unity, and all that.

  55. gambon

    “I suppose I don’t trust the club to spend big in the summer. Everyone will be doing it”

    I think its a bit of a myth that City & Chelsea sign every half decent player out there. Its just not true.

    Man Utd have Rooney, RVP, Welbeck and Hernandez. I certainly see them spending a lot, but not on a CF.

    City have no need for a CF.

    Liverpool clearly have no need for a CF.

    Bayern, Barca dont need a CF.

    Its just us and Chelsea, maybe Madrid.

    We can compete with Chelsea on wages, and Madrid tend to go for prestige rather than quality.

    All this talk of “we cant compete with xxxx” is ridiculous.

    The reason we moved stadium and invested so heavily in our commercial dept IS TO COMPETE with these clubs.

    Most people would say Liverpool cant compete with Chelsea, well Suarez earns as much as any chelsea player.

  56. TitsMcgee

    Yes, yes, yes, I know they are at the top, and I’m thankful for it, but I want them to stay there. That’s why I want the club to make 1 or 2 key signings. Does that really make me a “hater”?”

    Apparently so.

  57. Nasri's Mouth

    gambon: Man Utd have Rooney, RVP, Welbeck and Hernandez. I certainly see them spending a lot, but not on a CF.

    Rooney might be off, and relying on RvP to be fit could be a big risk

  58. gambon

    Biliken Gooner

    Id agree RE Podolski if he was not earning over £100k per week.

    You cant pay someone that much if they are so excluded from the playing side of things.

    That said hes paid Diaby god knows how much for being a joke of a footballer.

  59. gambon

    NM

    Its about priorities.

    UTD need CBs, a LB, CMs and a wide player.

    You cant change a team in one window. I would imagine any strikers will have to wait.

    Considering the market UTD will be shopping in, it wont be easy to sign 6-7 players in 3 months.

  60. Nasri's Mouth

    @simon

    Yep, agreed, if we had Rooney and RvP fit we’d be definite favourites.

    But I’m talking next season when Rooney will be in his final year and RvP could have just come out of a season where he’s been fit for less than half the games

  61. Admir

    Regarding comparison between Giroud and Sturridge – the latter would have scored more goals for us but we would have conceded number of goals after set-pieces as well. Giroud is one of the most important players for our defending due to height and strength.

  62. Simon

    “You cant change a team in one window. I would imagine any strikers will have to wait.”

    Finally. Sense breaks out. Very likely true. I still hope for Morata.

    To lessen the blow …Hope we don’t get Ntep. Would be thrilled with Griezmann and will jizz my pants instantly if we get Draxler.

  63. Nasri's Mouth

    @gambon

    Depends on what the priorities are. They might decide to shoehorn Kagawa and Fellaini into the midfield for next season to give them a bit more continuity in the squad.

    Mind you, they might force Rooney to stay for his final year too I guess.

    Either way, I think that the summer is where Moyes will earn his money

  64. N5

    “Fabien Brandy [Sheffield United – Walsall] Loan”

    I’ve made monkey on this, I bet on it last night as being the next BIG move!

  65. Simon

    BREAKING!!!

    Manchester City want to sign Barcelona central midfielder Xavi, 33….

    to play for their new Major League Soccer franchise New York City FC …

    in 2015.

    Joking aside, fucking amazing business move is NYC FC. Genius.

  66. Nasri's Mouth

    Fabio AND Rafael are both likely to leave in the summer according to their agent.

    Gets better and better for ManU

  67. N5

    Right works almost over so I guess I should get off the internet! I’ve earned my money today! 😀

    Have a nice evening guys and Simon I’m going to go and take a sleep after all that shocking transfer news!

  68. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    Yeah, Rogers will make some big signings if they get in there.

    Liverpool are a couple of defenders and middle players away from a really good side there.

    That’s why it is so crucial that Wenger doesn’t do his usual. Before we know it we could be 4th spot team again. He needs to capitalize now and I hope that significant pressure is put on him by the board to spend.

    Draxler in January would be phenomenal if we managed to engineer some part exchange with Podolski to drop the price by £12-15 Million. I like Podolski, think he’s a great squad player, but Wenger doesn’t appear to like him – not just going on last night but last season as well. So we may as well get a ‘use’ out of him.

    We’d be a World Class striker away from a great side.

  69. Leedsgunner

    Shame about Monreal, here was I thinking we finally had depth and competition in the side for that position. I guess whether he likes or not TV5 will have to fill in for Gibbs if Monreal is out long…

    I guess Monreal transfer gives me hope. When Wenger wants to he can still get quality players in January…

  70. BillikenGooner

    Vermaelen will probably get some runouts at LB for next few months. Which means less rest for Per and Kos.

  71. Uche

    it can’t possibly be a good thing that so many ManU players are rumored to be available for loan or for sale. Sounds like the rats are abandoning ship, who would’ve thought there were so many
    Fabio
    Rafael
    Vidic
    Nani
    Anderson
    Rooney
    Evra
    Ferdinand
    Lindegaard
    Chicharito

    One hell of a rebuilding project if even half of those players leave.

  72. Cesc Appeal

    United need a couple of really great middle players and they’ll look a lot better straight away.

    To really get back on track they’d need a great winger as well, and a CB, two full backs as well.

    But they’d instantly look ‘better’ if they invested in their middle which is way below par.

  73. Uche

    Does anyone else feel like there’s a limit to the number of Germans we have in our team before it becomes a problem? I think no nationality should outnumber the English players (No, i’m not English btw)

    We already have
    Gnabry
    Podolski
    Mertesacker
    Ozil

    And people want to add
    Reus
    Draxler
    Ginter
    Gundogan
    Bender

  74. Uche

    @Cesc appeal

    I think the entire back four needs to be changed, Rafael might make just to reduce the incoming numbers. Smalling or Phil Jones of Evans might be serviceable, but not more than one.

    The entire midfield need to be revamped. Would’ve said keep Kagawa but I think they’ve screwed that up beyond repair, Januzaj is too young.

    And while they have strikers, the only one that will still be there in 2 years is Welbeck, who’s a good squad player but can’t carry the team yet.

  75. Uche

    @Simon
    I’ll looking at next year though. Rooney with one year left on his contract. RVP will probably still have his injury problems as he gets older. Chicharito is no longer what they need. Welbeck can’t carry the team yet.

    Lots of questions, no good answer but to buy it seems. And how many players(and what caliber) can Moyes bring in?

  76. Cesc Appeal

    Bleacher report has some stuff on Arsenal scouts giving Draxler their full and final recommendation to Wenger.

    I think we could pull off a Podolski plus cash deal for the youngster.

    Seems there’s a commonly held belief among scouts in Europe that Draxler is destined for massive things.

  77. hackneylad

    Liverpool are sneaky they seemed like a shit side

    But then Sturridge became amazing and sterling has certanly improved and coutinho is showing the promise/potential we knew he had!

    And Suarez is just being Suarez.

    And Mingolet could turn out to be WC

    Sakho is young for A CB he makes errors a plenty but I think he is going to be a complete beast/class soon (allot of potential)

    They need a CB, They need a replacement for Gerrard, They need a great DM and they are one solid team (oh and maybe some cover for CAM spot in case Coutinho gets injured.

  78. sam

    Last night mistake was lack of rotation from arsene wenger.
    wilshere, cazorla and Ozil can’t be in the same line up until he know to use them.
    Monreal could have made it 3-0 if he didn’t get blocked then gibbs came in together with Cazorla they failed to closed them down on the left they made dangerous cross to score.
    Get off Giroud’s back for a moment, its not his fault the team failed apart.
    I only watched the second half, I could see wilshere walking when he lost the ball instead of rushing to track back.

  79. sam

    We already lost Walcott, how many goals would draxler score for us till the end of the season to win us the league if we sacrifice Podolski to get him?

  80. Cesc Appeal

    If Draxler is what Wenger decides to go for then we’d still need a striker as well…a cheapo one would suffice or a loan until the summer.

    But Draxler might become hot property in the summer, right now it seems his choice is Arsenal – perhaps though not necessarily what we need right now, it might be opportune to get him.

    A Batshyai, Berbatov, Morata loan would do as well.

    Costa’s release clause only becomes viable in the summer I believe…again though if he is who Wenger wants he’d need to get in there fast before serious amounts of interest starts during the World Cup.

  81. Cesc Appeal

    sam

    Because if instead of paying £40 Million we can pay £25 Million and use Podolski you may as well…Wenger just doesn’t seem to want to use him. Going back to last season.

    So if Schalke would go for it, might as well…Id prefer to keep Podolski, I think he’s a great squad player – but Wenger just doesn’t use him enough.

  82. Cesc Appeal

    Angel Di Maria stuff is rearing it’s head again…apparently the Spanish press is hellbent on driving him out.

  83. tunnygriffboy

    The dream that Draxler comes this window we could end up with this line up come start next season

    Giroud

    Draxler Ozil Walcott

    That is a good forward line

    If we added Costa in the summer that front 4 will be a handful for anyone. Add a strong, physical, footballing CDM and replace defenders who leave and that is a very strong squad. We would get a tidy fee for Verm, Poldi and a bit for Flappy should they leave. It COULD be an exciting time.

  84. Simon

    Sam

    Because

    a. The left would be overloaded and he would start behind Draxler and possible also Cazorla
    b. He himself might not wish to warm the bench at the night of his powers
    c. Wenger appears to have fallen out of love with him for whatever reason
    d. Shalke might want him
    e. He has resale value.

    Of course Santi might go instead…

  85. Cesc Appeal

    tunny

    Giroud has to be replaced from the starting line up, simply not good enough to carry us into the elite leagues.

  86. Simon

    Latest contracts signed for a nice basis for us to push on with further buys and development on the team.

    Sagna staying is great news and simplifies our transfer business significantly. Jenkinson has a year or two to grow into his position. Maybe we will buy a young 4th choice CB – that chap from Nottingham maybe. If not, Sagna is a good 4th choice.

    Per is obviously immense for us and at the heart of our team. He is the most consistent performer in the team. Great news.

    Like to hear Rosicky is signing up too. His legs are still there and he gives us pace and directness.

  87. sam

    Cesc and Simon

    Don’t you think Draxler would need a settling period before he shines?
    why sacrifice a senior player for a new comer?
    Risk worth taking? or Dangerous Gamble that could cost us

  88. tunnygriffboy

    Cesc

    Agree about Giroud. Even with him alongside Walcott, Ozil and Draxler would be decent. I would love a Costa / Benzema instead, tat front 4 would frighten most. Happy to have Giroud as a second option then.

  89. sam

    Wenger didn’t need Podolski yesterday because he didn’t think we will struggle in the second half. not because he wants him out
    Please stop making things up, his hamstring has not heal properly therefore its better not to play him against a beatable opponent. We have more serious opponents in February.

  90. sam

    If Podolski drops off again, he will follow Walcott out for the season.
    Resting him at the moment is better because all our January games are easy