Wenger, Per and Sagna sign da ting: Reaction | Arsenal hold on to take important 3 points

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What to say about the Villa game eh? You know when your team has turned into a winning machine when you don’t have anything to complain about. I mean, jeez, I’m really struggling to have a bitch today…

Wenger rotated in our star men, he kept some of the fringe on and we played out a; in the main, comfortable game.

Olivier Giroud missed himself two relatively easy chances in the opening 7 minutes. He glanced a free header wide on 4 minutes, and then he failed to connect with a low cross on 7 minutes.

Arsenal controlled possession against a timid Villa side clearly very nervous about taking a hammering. Our opener came after a Monreal give and go, the Spaniard cut Jack in on the edge of the area, he shifted his weight and poked an inch perfect cross goal shot into the back of the net. As he peeled off the celebrate, he made an ‘A’ with his fingers…

… Jack, mate, Adebayor left ages ago. Really didn’t get that?

Before I’d even had time to note down the goal, Wilshere found Giroud with a floated pass after winning it off Delph, the Frenchman brought it down majestically, kneed it clumsily for his second touch, and then buried home like a boss with his third. A great goal that really sums Olivier up.

The rest of the half was Arsenal in rest mode. It was like watching a really boring warm down. I had the feeling we were a little too casual. That fear was realised in the second half when Santi lost the ball out wide, a cross was nipped in to the back post where Benteke, a player suffering some severe second-season-itis, was on hand to score a diving header.

My flat mate and I agreed at this point that not enough diving headers were scored these days. A classic goal. Though not as rare as the scissor kick.

That goal put the frighteners on the team. All of a sudden, our slick passing disappeared. Villa grew with confidence and Villa Park started to heat up with some real noise. You sensed we could concede a goal. I wasn’t sure whether old fears died hard, or we really were losing control. Rosicky slowed down the game when he took a forearm to the face and broke his nose (well, it looked like he had). The ref didn’t stop play despite seeing the player was gushing blood. In fairness to Villa, we didn’t stop play when we had the advantage.

Anyway, when play did resume, Benteke missed an absolute sitter from 6 yards. Heading into the keepers arms. Really poor play, you have to say.

6 minutes of injury time played out, we took the three points, Wenger called Lambert a ‘vieux chatte’ for maximum fulltime LOLz… we all went home happy. Well, maybe not Monreal because there were rumours of a broken metatarsal.

Concluding Points

Rotation has paid dividends…

Arsene has loosened up on the fear factor. The team we put out was pretty well rested and our bench looked as strong as it has all season. He’s now far more comfortable rotating than he was. It’s not perfect. He’ll need to sharpen it up if he really wants the league, but it’s getting better.

For me, this is where trophies are won and lost… if he gets it right, I think we’ll win the Premiership.

Podolski is not favoured…

This shouldn’t come as news to people. Even when he was flavour of the month, he was pulled off every game (substituted you foul people). Wenger doesn’t seem to hold him in that high esteem. I noted in the summer that the feeling at the club was that he’d be off if there was a decent offer. Yesterday, he wasn’t given a run out again. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave this summer.

Monreal…

He doesn’t look particularly graceful going forward, but he ain’t half effective and he’s very measured in his approach to bombing on. He had a lovely assist for the first goal, he defended well and his quality has allowed us to give Kieran Gibbs some breathing space.

Giroud…

He is what he is I’m afraid. He’s a hard working English centre forward who makes the most of his ability. He’s capable of moments of magic, but he’s also capable of moments of ‘what the f*ck did you do there’… that’s fine. He came up with a decent goal yesterday. He’s not super elite, but hey, nor was Alan Smith and we all loved him, right? It’d be great to get some striker support for him regardless.

The big news…

The manager is rumoured to have signed a new deal along with Sagna and Mertesacker. That’s banging news as far as I’m concerned. Firstly, Per and Sagna have been essential to the team this year. Both are capable of being the captain of our great club. They’re ambassadors on and off the pitch. They embody everything you’d want in a foreign player. Totally bought into the heritage and the culture of the club.

On Arsene Wenger, I said in September when this deal was first mooted that I didn’t agree with handing out £7.5m a year for someone who hadn’t proved anything. Well, we’re in mid-January, we’re in the FA Cup, the Champions’ League group stages after navigating the group of death and we’re topping the league. That’s off the back of some transformative changes to his management game and his approach to player values. Not to mention the fact that we cleared £500k worth of dead wood and we topped the calendar league table. So this isn’t a fluke… it’s where we are as a club.

So basically, despite still having reservations about him in certain areas, I can’t complain. As far as I’m concerned, 75% of the issues Le Grove has campaigned against for years have been addressed over the past two years.

Also, I think we’re in a fantastic position stability wise. I think big players will look at the Alex Ferguson departure at United and worry. We’re an even more attractive proposition this season because of the saga in Salford. Now we’re talking about signing superstar talent like Draxler and Diego Costa. That’s where we need to be as a club. We’re at the top table and Wenger has been integral in making that happen.

At the start of last summer I said it was the perfect storm for big changes as so it has proved. Arsene wanted a new deal and he pulled out all the stops to get one. I’m glad he didn’t get a rise as well… apparently he’s performance bonused quite heavily. Another masterstroke from Ivan… target him on winning, not breaking even.

So bravo. If a manager can change his approach, I can change my opinion of the situation.

Onwards and upwards…

 

 

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  1. N5

    @Keyser, good point about the old bloggers mate and I hear you.

    @Uche, I agree there is more to a contract then just winning trophies, I just wonder how many of the top 4 teams would be allowed to go for 8 years without winning anything? Teams like WBA, Stoke, Sunderland etc appear to have as their goal to avoid relegation and get as high in the league as possible, but Citeh, Chelsea, ManUre and Arsenal shouldn’t allow 8 years without a trophy should they?

    To be honest I don’t really have an opinion on it, I lost faith around a year ago, but the improvements are happening and fingers crossed they will continue too and if the board think Wenger is the key to that then so be it, if you’re an Arsenal man then I will not be on here calling them a c*nt, I will be giving them my support.

    I just was interested in the divided opinion.

  2. somecallmemystic

    for a blog on a team that’s spent the last 2mths top of the league le grove sure can be a miserable place to spend quality work time.
    ————————————-
    Brilliant that Arsenal have been at the top, but in the end it is where they finish the season, not how well they have done early/mid that matters. If they are fighting for 1st in the dying weeks of the season I’m sure you will find an enthusiastic Grove, if we are fighting for Wenger’s 4th place trophy I think you’ll find people will be totally fucked off.

  3. N5

    “I see you are not refuting any of my criticisms of Cazorla anymore”

    Nasri may not but I certainly do, you said Caz had been off for over a year which was just tripe, I think people just got tired of debating it as you obviously wasn’t going to budge and your opinion was based on the fact only you had really watching him and we were all looking elsewhere when Cazorla was on the pitch.

  4. Bamford13

    The Giroud debate needs to be put to bed. All that can be said has been said.

    He’s an average striker with serious flaws, e.g., slow, clumsy, misses chances. Some of us find it painful to watch him due to these flaws, while others — more easily pleased — are happy enough with him (as they are with nearly all Arsenal players).

    Should Wenger have signed a better striker in the summer? Yes. Should Wenger be criticized for this? Yes.

    Would even a Sturridge have twice the goals and assists Giroud has at this point if he were at Arsenal? Yes, I think he would.

    All the same, we might still win the league with Giroud. It won’t be pretty or inspiring, but it might get done.

  5. Nasri's Mouth

    @Paulinho

    Hahaha! You’re doing this on purpose now yeah?

    Beating the national press by 2 months? Investigative journalism awaits you.

    So if we sign Benteke, are we getting last season’s Benteke or this season’s Benteke then?

  6. TitsMcgee

    “Heh, classic tits, ignoring where he thought we’d be in the summer, or how likely we were to qualify from our Champions League group.”

    In summer people were saying that the exact same thing THAT HAS HAPPENED was going to happen(injuries and going into a season with just one CF).

    It’s even MAGNIFIED NOW because the way the league has turned out we actually have a shot of winning a trophy and not reinforcing is turning out to be an even more TITANIC gaff than expected.

    But yes…..let’s revel in our 1 point lead because :

    “It’s better than where we thought we’d be”

    Very reactive, very submissive line of thinking.

    Are you French?

  7. Paulinho

    Uche – People have Bendtner. He’s not some arrogant oblivious type that doesn’t care what the crowd thinks, he actually takes alot of stuff to heart and cares.

    Some of the chances he’s snatched at over the years in big moments reveal someone that in key moments doesn’t back himself. You might say it’s because he a poor player, but he showed when he was younger than he can finish in any way he wants.

    I’ve actually got alot of time for him. You can see his celebrations when other players score that he cares alot, almost too much I think at times. Just wish he would relax a little, because he pisses all over Giroud in alot of areas.

  8. TT

    Top of the Pl in January and most of what I see here is moaning and whining.

    Sure Giraud is not what we need but he ain’t shit either. Wenger has not won anything with the club for 8 years but has kept the club in the CL all this time which is not bad. Sure I would like titles and cups but It wont turn me into a bitter twisted human refuse that can see nothing good about the man.

    He sure has his weak spots but in general not many managers are more respected than him, having said that I think he reached his peak with the 2004 team and if he signs another contract for 2 or 3 years I hope the board starts looking around for a replacement as he is not getting any younger, we may not even have to go out side the club to find that person. Continuity is a good thing and lack of that is what is hurting United at the moment in my opinion.

  9. Paulinho

    NM – Well I would say last season’s form – injury free – is more indicative of his true potential than than one which has been hampered by injuries.

    Which is something so obvious and blatant that it shouldn’t really needed to be pointed out, but some people are that stupid it seems.

  10. Ash

    @Gambon

    (Your comment was a long time ago I know) Draxler has almost certainly played the false 9 role before get your facts straight.

  11. TitsMcgee

    “TitsIt’s mid-jan and no one seems to have bought anyone anywhere? Wenger out?”

    Firstly.Chelsea laughs at you.

    Secondly. Our problems are our own. Just because “No one seems to have bought anyone anywhere”( learn English btw) doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t. Each club has it’s own needs.

    That’s a dim-witted response.

  12. Keyser

    Tits McGee – Be honest for once, this is what people thought would happen ? How ? Why ? Actually scrap that because you’re talking shit, I didn’t think it would happen and I’m more far more level-headed than you.

    Fuck me, so people weren’t celebrating us getting the group of death, because it’d serve Wenger right for not strenghtening, they thought we’d spend 42 and a half million on Ozil, and they didn’t think we’d struggle for 6th let along 4th, or be top in January ?

    Seriously what is wrong with you ?

  13. gambon

    Dont see us signing Draxler

    Or to put it another way….dont see us paying anything close to £40m for him.

    If Shalke accept £20m (which they wouldnt) then maybe.

  14. sylvain

    “If a manager can change his approach, I can change my opinion of the situation.”

    Pedro, maybe you should wait until the end of this transfert window for saying things like that, we all know that the signing of Ozil was more a miracle than something else…

  15. Uche

    @N5

    I’m as clueless as the next person when it comes to explaining or justifying our trophy drought. I just don’t think the stadium , and the emergence of the oil clubs can be overlooked during that period.

    People treat the stadium like its no big deal that we built a 60k seater stadium without getting ourselves into too much debt. Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Everton, and Tottenham are all desperate to get a bigger stadium or even expand their current stadium and have failed for years. We’ve actually achieved it but because its not something talked about glamorously on tv, it gets overlooked by most.

    We’re in solid financial shape are classed as a superclub in Europe alongside, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Chelsea, Man U, (PSG, Man C, Inter, Liverpool, Milan, Dortmund arguably). And people act like that’s always been the case and it counts for nothing.

    Personally, i’m as frustrated as anyone else about the trophy drought but I’m not blind to all the good things the club has achieved and i’m stoked about our future.

    Wish Wenger signs for another 4 years.

  16. N5

    NM, Nuggets of gold served up by a mad man. I truly believe it is just to be contrarian because no one at all in the world believes that Santi has been toilet for over a year, since injury he had been quieter but far from awful and 100% not for over 12 months.

  17. TitsMcgee

    “You don’t enjoy being a fan much do you?”

    It’s another dim-witted response with the intention of taking the narrative down another path.

    You can revel in the 1 point gap if you chose. I actually want to win the league and that will CERTAINLY NOT happen if we stay the course with Giroud.

    I could actually make the argument that by not wanting to reinforce I’m a better fan than you but that’s a childish, school-boy type retort.

  18. TitsMcgee

    “Be honest for once, this is what people thought would happen ? How ? Why ? Actually scrap that because you’re talking shit, I didn’t think it would happen and I’m more far more level-headed than you.”

    Everyone and their dog KNEW that not signing a striker in summer would come back and bite us. EVERYONE. Let’s not get too cheeky here Keyser or try to rewrite history either.

    Giroud fluffing his chances is EXACTLY what everyone knew we’d be talking about in mid Jan way back in summer. You can go look up the blog from August.

  19. N5

    I agree Uche, I think the stadium and things has had a huge impact on the progress, but I’ve seen reports by various sites saying about how much money Arsenal did still have for developing the team but that this never happened and fans got frustrated. But as I said whoever is the manager I will support and keep my fingers crossed for progress. I was there for the 18 year drought so I’ve seen much worse times with boring football.

  20. gambon

    “I’m as clueless as the next person when it comes to explaining or justifying our trophy drought. I just don’t think the stadium , and the emergence of the oil clubs can be overlooked during that period.”

    Yeah, good point.

    Damn Man City loaning all their players to Birmingham the day before the CC final in 2010! Damn them.

    “People treat the stadium like its no big deal that we built a 60k seater stadium without getting ourselves into too much debt.”

    Yeah the stadium that increased our revenue by £50m pa?

    Hows that a hindrance?

    “We’re in solid financial shape are classed as a superclub in Europe alongside, Madrid, Barca, Bayern, Juve, Chelsea, Man U, (PSG, Man C, Inter, Liverpool, Milan, Dortmund arguably)”

    I would day theres a big gap between Man U, Bayern & the 2 Spanish giants. These 4 are superclubs, we are in the chasing pack.

    “Wish Wenger signs for another 4 years.”

    Would be terrible for Arsenal IMO

  21. salparadisenyc

    Im not sure about Draxler either. Think he was potentially the big summer target along with a striker. Gazidas threw some feelers out and it seems Shalke have opened the door in January, all be it paying over the clause. Total sea change if we put the money forth to acquire him, that would be two £40m + purchases within 6 months and i’d probably have to be put in a very padded room from shock. The nice shock like you’ve shagged a bird well above your pay grade and she begs for more the following morning in a very sultry voice.

  22. Nasri's Mouth

    @Paulinho

    Sorry I’m confused you said you want to sign Benteke so that “we would last till April/May”

    Now you’re saying we should sign him for his potential?

    Benteke this season has been poor, signing him now for this season so that we “last till April/May” would be a waste of £20-25m. Simple as that

  23. Simon

    Tits

    So you think all other clubs have no needs? It must be very hard to create an entire fantasy universe. Let it go!

    I know it sounds revolutionary when your in denial but might it be that January is a tough window and most clubs would love to strengthen?

    Can’t wait fir your response. In a hole…still digging?

  24. Paulinho

    “Now you’re saying we should sign him for his potential?”

    Someone get this man a medal!

    And yes, if we do sign him now, use him at the right times, he could explode now.

  25. Keyser

    TitsMcGee –

    “Everyone and their dog KNEW that not signing a striker in summer would come back and bite us. EVERYONE. Let’s not get too cheeky here Keyser or try to rewrite history either.”

    You’re the one being cheeky here, did you think we’d be top in January ? If so, why.

    Even if you didn’t, explain why we are top ?

    This is what you can’t wrap you’re head around, I can just imagine if we win the league, you’ll come on here and say we’d have won the quadruple if we’d bought a striker.

  26. Uche

    @Paulinho

    I am, and have been a huge Bendtner fan. Always thought he’d wear the No. 9 shirt for Arsenal until the League cup final debacle.

    He’s a good player who came through our system, so i’ll always have love for him. IMO, Wenger gave him the short end of the stick and put him in situations where anyone would struggle to succeed (In fairness, he was competing with an in-form Adebayor, Eduardo, and RVP).

    I’ve never seen a 6’4 CF played on the wing so often in my life. Plus, the classic throw him on with 10 minutes left in a game that we’re chasing, and if he doesn’t score, everyone berates him for not making an impact. Ignoring the fact that the opposition parked a space shuttle in front of their goal.

    Anyways, Bendtner’s problem isn’t confidence, every coach, teammate, and journalist that has ever interviewed him agrees with me.

  27. Arsene hates zip coats

    PaulinhoJuly 16, 2013 00:57:59
    Our problem is right back Sagna (just a joke going forward) and midfield along with attack.Walcott, Giroud, Podolski is horrific unless you’re playing route one in a carling cup match.

    PaulinhoSeptember 1, 2013 10:20:17
    The issue with our squad is that it’s shit.

    PaulinhoAugust 24, 2013 14:17:33
    I’l see if it works for Ramsey……Ramsey is still not top top drawer.

    PaulinhoAugust 30, 2013 11:48:37
    I seriously hope Tottenham are beating us about 3-0 after 70 minutes, and Wenger brings on Sanogo to attempt a comeback. It would be so fitting.

  28. N5

    NM I certainly wouldn’t keep entertaining this discussion with Paulinho, you will get a contrarian reply to anything you say.

    If you say he’s good, he’ll say he’s bad, if you say he’s black he’ll say he’s white. Anyone who rates Verm over Kos isn’t worth debating, especially someone who says Santi has been crap for over a year.

  29. TitsMcgee

    “So you think all other clubs have no needs? It must be very hard to create an entire fantasy universe. Let it go!”

    Every club has needs but the IDIOTIC comment about ““No one seems to have bought anyone anywhere” which I’m guessing translates to “nobody else has bought anyone yet” is what I was addressing.

    What Chelsea or any other big club has or hasn’t done is of no concern to what WE AS AFC need.

    We have a need for another striker and the other position or two that has been talked about ad-nauseum on here.

    Comparing our inaction to the inaction of another club is of no import other than to serve as something to help the delusional sleep better at night.

    Whether Chelsea or City sign anyone or not isn’t going to allow Giroud to rest more often or turn him into a better more efficient striker.

  30. Nasri's Mouth

    Paulinho: And yes, if we do sign him now, use him at the right times, he could explode now.

    Or this season’s form could just continue and we’d have wasted £20-£25m on a player AND have him on the books for the next 4-5 years.

    Marvellous plan.

    So it’s either investigative journalism or strategic planning for you then

  31. Arsene hates zip coats

    Regarding my previous post on Paulinho’s arguments/comments today…

    Hate to do this….but had to… his arguments today are going nowhere..so it would be a good time to visit his other arguments/opinions.

  32. Uche

    @tits

    “Everyone and their dog KNEW that not signing a striker in summer would come back and bite us. EVERYONE. Let’s not get too cheeky here Keyser or try to rewrite history either.”

    How has not signing a striker come back to haunt us? We’re top of the league, still in champions league, and still in the FA cup. Unless you mean, we should have signed a 40m striker so we can compete in the league cup.

    Tired of people thinking we don’t have a big enough squad simply because they personally don’t like some (or all) of our players. At striker we have Giroud, Bendtner, Podolski, and Sanogo available. So far they’ve put us top of the league, not sure what’s so haunting in that.

  33. MarbleHall

    To gain an overall picture as to where Arsenal are at, they need to be judged against a top 7 team.

    At the same stage this time last season Arsenal managed to pick up 8 points from a possible 18 against a top 7 side.

    This season coincidently against the same teams they have picked up 8 points out of a possible 18 albeit 4 of those fixtures have been at home whereas last season Arsenal had played 4 away fixtures.

  34. N5

    Uche, don’t forget his arrogance saw him fall out of favour with Wenger.

    Wenger doesn’t like being backed into a corner and this is what NB52 did and saw him fall out of favour. I’m one of the people that has never really liked him, I think he is better than maybe some give him credit for but I also think he is quite the bellend.

  35. Paulinho

    N5- Did I say Cazorla was awful or average? I believe it was average.

    If you’re incapable of not misrepresenting my arguments or putting words in my mouth then I simply won’t respond to anymore of your posts.

  36. Admir

    Actually, Giroud has scored 12 goals in all competitions – 9 in the Premiership, 1 against Fenerbahce and 2 in the Group Stage (Napoli and Borussia).

    Arsenal lead the league when it comes to goals scored with a head – we have scored 9 headers so far. Giroud’s presence in the attack has something to do with that although he has scored “only” two headers.

    His goals have given us at least three victories and all of them came against the top half opponents – Spuds, Newcastle and Southampton.

    Now, I agree that his record against the best teams in the league should have been much better. It’s not like he didn’t have a chance to turn a draw against Chelsea or Everton into our victory. I guess all he needs is an important goal, say, against Liverpool at Anfield. Had only that ball against Everton went only a few centimeters to the left…

  37. Keyser

    “What Chelsea or any other big club has or hasn’t done is of no concern to what WE AS AFC need.”

    This is why you’re mental, of course it does, if we want Jovetic and Citeh outbid us then it obviously is a concern you nutter, we compete against these teams ffs.

  38. gambon

    The stuff about the Draxler “tour” are hilarious.

    He trained at Arsenal because England were playing Germany,

    That doesnt constitute a tour of the facilities.

    If we were showing him round to impress him thats tapping up, something we wouldnt do so overtly.

    Theres no way we are bringing in a top CF if we sign Draxler, and theres no way Wenger wants Giroud in the first team, after his attempts to sign a CF last summer.

  39. Nasri's Mouth

    @N5

    Definite element of that. I’m tempted to ask who this ‘Beastly energetic central midfielder’ who is going to replace Flamini this month, but I might save that for later

  40. Bero

    Hoping if we sweep the next few matches for points, which we should, that we see a few points dropped elsewhere to allow for our next horror run in Feb and then again in March. Hoping the dropping off last night after the 2 goals was about trying to stay as rested as possible.

    Poldi for Drax is a good deal. If it can be done now we should do it. Even in the summer a good deal.

    I think Draxler’s first PL season would see him at similar level to a Nasri type but that he would build from there and become a monster player.

    My hope for next season starting 11:
    chez
    sag – mert(c) – kos – Gib
    Flam – Ram
    Theo – Ozil – Drax
    Costa

    Giroud and Bendtner as rest of strikeforce…

    Sell: Podolski (in Drax deal), Park, Campbell, Frimpong, le Coq, Djourou, Diaby (release if need be!)

    That could be a solid team with the rest of the current lads kept as the squad. Priority for next few windows then the Arteta/Flamini and Diaby replacements and a new RB to replace Sagna after his new contract comes to an end….

    I think that’s all doable and could win us the league or have us challenging next couple of seasons.

  41. Arsene's Nurse

    FFS! Monreal has done his metatarsal and Rosicky has a broken nose! We must be cursed. Was the Emirates built on an old Indian burial ground?

  42. TitsMcgee

    “You’re the one being cheeky here, did you think we’d be top in January ? If so, why.Even if you didn’t, explain why we are top ?”

    We are top because we have been playing out of our minds and combined with some slow starts from other teams.

    Being “top” in mid-January isn’t the goal is it?

    Being top at the end of the season is.

    We aren’t “top of the league” by 9 points either.

    So reinforcing would help us push on and get over the hump.

    It’s really rather simple and YES there are players out there that can help us.

    Not reinforcing a team that is only 1 point clear when we have one striker is pretty negligent.

  43. N5

    Paulinho please don’t because everything you say is absolute tosh.

    You did say Caz was rubbish, not average, but you retract and say whatever you like now to suit. Nasri remembers it and I’m sure many do as plenty of us said you were talking rubbish.

    You go ahead and ignore my posts because you have nothing of any worth to reply anyway.

  44. Nasri's Mouth

    MarbleHall: To gain an overall picture as to where Arsenal are at, they need to be judged against a top 7 team.

    Not really because that gives you a picture of us against the top 7 teams. (I have no idea why you picked 7 rather than 6 or 8 by the way)

    If you want an OVERALL picture you judge against 19 teams.

  45. jasongms

    “might it be that January is a tough window and most clubs would love to strengthen? ‘

    conversely most clubs aren’t in a position where they are genuine title contenders and with readily available fund s that most clubs can only dream of !

  46. Paulinho

    NM – He could, or he could get into form, score goals and help win us the title.

    There’s risk in every transfer. What do you suggest we do? Do nothing and rely on Bendtner Giroud?

    Marvellous plan.

  47. gambon

    Bero

    That is some team.

    We will be signing a GK and at least one CB id imagine as well.

    Still think we need an upgrade in the middle of the park as well. Flamini and Arteta are good players, but i think we could comfortably find better.

  48. TitsMcgee

    Keyser and co are interested in “moral victories”.

    “Moral victories”

    “Doing well DESPITE our net spend”

    “Doing well DESPITE not being Chelsea or having oil money”

    “Doing well DESPITE where we thought we’d be”

    “Doing well DESPITE just having one CF”

    “Giroud has FIRED us top of the league”

    Problem is come end of the year WHEN Giroud hits a wall the same guys talking about “top of the league” now will be criticising the “moaners” for us not winning because we didn’t “support” the lads.

  49. Simon

    Jason

    Most clubs are quite capable of buying players mate. Man are title contenders too. But no one had managed any business. Don’t you have a shred of doubt given The World that it might not be down to Wenger?!

  50. Roaaary

    I noticed yesterday that podolski shook his head in disbelief as the ox warmed up ahead of him.

    You could see he was bemused that someone as short of fitness as the ox was coming on in front of him. Poor guy.

    You can understand his frustration when you see santi spinning round in circles on the left of our midfield

  51. gambon

    N5

    Almost certainly someone to play as backup.

    Wenger wont be blocking players like Szczesny, Wilshere, Ramsey, Oxlade no matter what.

    We will need a good CB, cos im 99% sure Vermaelen will be off this summer.

    I actually think we will need 2. Wenger has always had 4/5 centre backs, this year we have 3.

  52. TitsMcgee

    “FFS! Monreal has done his metatarsal and Rosicky has a broken nose! We must be cursed. Was the Emirates built on an old Indian burial ground?”

    Top of the league!

  53. Keyser

    Tits – See, that’s the best you can come up with ?

    “We are top because we have been playing out of our minds and combined with some slow starts from other teams.”

    We took more points than any other team in the league during the last year, despite Chelsea, Citeh and so on having the better squads, and they’d have had that regardless of whether we bought in a striker.

    Why are we top ? We haven’t played all that well really, we’re still not as efficient as we could be in attack and we struggle at times physically, we haven’t just got injuries now, we’ve had Ox out since the first game of the season, Podolski out for 4 months, Theo out for similar and Cazorla, aswell as others.

    We were playing without any wide players at all for a period, so forget all that slow start business, we’ve dealt with far greater problems, against Chelsea in the Carling Cup for example they were able to play an almost entirely changed line-up, not to mention our Champions League qualifying and our group.

    We’re top because we’ve kept our team together for the most part, especially our defence, we’ve taken time to blood new players and build cohesion aswell as keep on older heads.

    We’ve bought in consistent hard workers that complement the team, even if they don’t turn heads and we’ve developed a good team spirit keeping the continuity going.

    and that’s why it’s about finding the right players, not just any player like you’d want us to and why you struggle to understand why we are where we are and why it’s hard to bring players in.

    Wtf’s the point of just buying in anyone, Chelsea and Citeh can outspend us and have, we have to find players that help us bridge that gap.

  54. Uche

    I’m all for bringing in Draxler this January, but not in a swap for Poldi. Between now and the end of the season, I think Poldi will give us more than Draxler can when you take into consideration experience, maturity, title winning pedigree, ambition, and acclimatization to the team and the league.

  55. N5

    gambon I did assume it would be back up also, I’ve been much happier with Szczesny this year although I do still feel he needs work.

    2 x CBs is a must, especially if Verm goes in the summer, which like you I imagine will be the case.

  56. MarbleHall

    Arsenal usually struggle against a top 7 side as they are a level up from the rest of the division.

    This tells me they may be found out in crunch games like when Chelsea knocked them out of the Capital One Cup and when they failed to beat Utd and City.

  57. Nasri's Mouth

    Monreal’s injury hasn’t been confirmed yet, though you’d imagine he’ll miss a couple of weeks anyway. If it does turn out to be serious, I’d like us to loan one in

    As for Rosicky, how long does a broken nose keep you out for anyway?

  58. somecallmemystic

    If you want an OVERALL picture you judge against 19 teams.
    ————————————-
    Agree 100%

    Using the argument simply against ‘top teams’ works in a knockout competition, but when you look at the number of points across the board all those are ones that also need to be maximised if you want to win the PL.

  59. N5

    Probably right Uche but like NB52 if Poldi has fallen out of favour with Wonga then there is very little hope left for him. Le Stubborn will cut off his nose to spite his face at times.

  60. Uche

    IMO, a bigger problem than striker, is our LW. Caz is awesome, but he unbalances the team with the way he plays LW.

    Ozil IS going to play through the middle, so lets not go there. Caz isn’t made for a supersub role either. I can see him leaving in the summer before Podolski easy.

    You can’t coach size unfortunately.

  61. gambon

    N5

    Yeah, id like to see a fairly established player brought in to compete with the current 2 CBs, and a younger “prospect” that may take their place eventually.

  62. Keyser

    Tits – No you’ll get criticised for going on like a mong regardless of what’s happening around you, because you don’t bother to try to understand what people are telling you.

  63. Uche

    @N5

    I don’t think Poldi is out of favor one bit. I put conspiracy theories like that in Pedro’s little box along with Wenger ignoring red zones, Steve Bould is the real head coach of Arsenal, Wenger gets transfer related bonuses, Wenger is only happy with 4th place, Owen Coyle can do a job for Arsenal, etc

  64. gambon

    Cazorla knows exactly how to play on the wing, just think he’s been a bit put out by the arrival of Ozil.

    He also said last year that Wenger brought him in to play CAM, so he probably wonders why hes now on the wing.

    I can see him going.

    Although if its a choice between Cazorla or Draxler id take Draxler cos the upside is huge.

    Better off with both though. As a ‘sometimes wide, sometimes central AM’ Cazorla is levels better than Rosicky.

    Draxler isnt a £40m player though. Hes no Hazard and Hazard was only £32m.

    Costa for £15m + Cazorla, Draxler for £20m + Podolski would be good business.

    If we were to bring in Costa, Draxler, 2 CBs and a GK………..it really doesnt matter what our rivals do, we will be able to match them.

  65. MarbleHall

    I said overall picture not just league picture.

    If Arsenal can’t master teams like Chelsea, Man City or dare i say even an Everton then what hope have they in the Champions league, none i’d say.

  66. gambon

    Uche

    Poldi is definitely out of favour.

    He has been for a year.

    Wenger doesnt like him for some reason.

    He came in as a big name on £100k per week, and was all over every piece of club PR, and now hes nowhere to be seen.

  67. jasongms

    “Most clubs are quite capable of buying players mate. Man are title contenders too. But no one had managed any business. Don’t you have a shred of doubt given The World that it might not be down to Wenger?!”

    I assume you’re referring to man city , Do they seriously need to add anyone ? they have by all account s the deepest squad in the league .

    As far as Wenger being the Omnipotent one and creator of the universe ….. He can’t even bring in a second striker !

  68. TitsMcgee

    “We took more points than any other team in the league during the last year, despite Chelsea, Citeh and so on having the better squads, and they’d have had that regardless of whether we bought in a striker.”

    …and we’re still just one point clear at the top with one CF who is dog-tired and injuries mounting all over the squad.

    We’ve not beaten a single quality EPL team so far.

    UTD- loss
    Chelsea-Loss
    Chelsea-draw
    City-dismantled.

    It’s “nitpicking” but Giroud also fluffed a chance vs Chelsea at the Emirates that would have given us 3 points as well more than likely.

    So us playing well is all fine and dandy but we’ve been playing about as good as we can play and we’ve still only got a one point lead as injuries continue to mount.

    To sit up there and say “it’s ok we’re top of the league” is short-sighted and burying your head in the sand.

  69. Uche

    My little conspiracy theory regarding CB’s is that Verm will leave in the summer and we’ll get Ginter from Freiburg, and 4th choice will be Miguel. Haven’t watched a minute of Leicester but Miguel is getting game for them and they’re top of the championship so something must be going right.

    I’ll be happy when Coquelin gets back too. Underrated and versatile player.

  70. gambon

    Bit disappointed with our commercial department in the last 6 months or so.

    We are top of the PL, yet we are not really moving forward at all, meanwhile we are wtching UTD sign up deals left right and centre…..all of which provides money to spend on players and wages.

    We have big German influence yet no German sponsors.

    UTD wouldve gone straight after that market in similar circumstances.

    Our ability to compete long term if down to Tom Fox just as much as it is Arsene Wenger, and not much is happening.

  71. Simon

    Jason. I mean any club anywhere. There will be business but so dear nada? Why?

    Aside from the Lewandowski deal which was agreed 18 months ago. What has happened so far? Fifth best team in England see old average striker to 500th best team in world for a few million.

  72. Keyser

    Tits – You’re still not bothering to understand, why are we top ? I’ve listed the reason’s, it’s because we’ve built slowly and tried to buy in the right players when they become available, yes we can force through transfers, but fucking hell we can’t just go out and find what we need when we need it.

    It’s amazing, you keep saying it’s ‘1 point’ yet you can’t explain it, you either simply don’t understand or you don’t want to.

  73. Barton

    @KeyserJanuary 14, 2014 13:55:40

    I agree with nearly everything you said in this post save the last 2 paragraphs,

    To think that with our cash reserves and scouting network we can’t find one striker on the planet with a club willing to sell that would (at least go some way to) solve our striking problems is just ignorant.

    Sometimes you just have to roll the dice a little.

  74. Vinca Rosea

    From another angle, you could view this season as a real opportunity to take advantage of our “rivals'” change of management. One could argue that we are top of the league very much due to this. However, to quantify if this advantage i.e is 1 point enough an opportunity siezed? (could we have done more?); is difficult and I think is where tits and keyser differ.

    or I could be spewing bollox and just fancied a post..haha.

  75. Nasri's Mouth

    We’ll get a better idea about Podolski in the next couple of games.

    Suggesting that Wenger wants him gone because he’s out of favour is a big step.

    If he continues to get the Gervinho treatment in the next couple of games then maybe he’ll be off, but it could also be that Wenger isn’t fully convinced by his fitness or his work-rate and is giving him a kick up the arse.

  76. TitsMcgee

    “Tits – No you’ll get criticised for going on like a mong regardless of what’s happening around you, because you don’t bother to try to understand what people are telling you.”

    It’s pretty obvious who the mong is Keyser.

    You berated anyone who suggested in summer that Giroud would be inefficient and that the squad needed more numbers.

    Low and behold our situation now.

  77. Arsene's Nurse

    Tuesday 01 May 2012

    Arsenal yesterday confirmed their first signing of the summer, German forward Lukas Podolski from Cologne. The 26-year-old striker will be in place at the Emirates for next season, with Arsenal paying around £11m for him.

    “We are delighted to secure the deal for Lukas Podolski and see him as an important part of our future,” the Arsenal manager, Arsène Wenger, said last night. “He is a top-class player, a very good finisher and a proven performer at club and international level.”

    “He is a very strong player and will provide us with good attacking options. We are happy to have made this signing early and we’re looking forward to watching Lukas contribute at the European Championship over the summer, a level where he has already made 95 caps at the age of 26 – a phenomenal record [which] just shows his quality as a player.”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/arsene-wenger-thrilled-to-land-top-class-lukas-podolski-for-arsenal-7697744.html

    So we pay £10.5m for him on a wage rumoured to be £107,000 a week yet keep him on the bench. Podolski must be gutted.

  78. Uche

    Funny, reading comments/arguments made on here you’d think Giroud was the only striker that missed clear cut or half chances in Europe. Maybe its just me but I see top strikers miss glaring chances every week, and at least one half chance every game.

    But I guess, we’re Arsenal so we should hold Giroud to a higher standard.

    Laughable.

    Guaranteed, someone will respond calling me a turd, or c*** explaining that fans like me are the reason why Arsenal isn’t going to win the league.

  79. TitsMcgee

    “To think that with our cash reserves and scouting network we can’t find one striker on the planet with a club willing to sell that would (at least go some way to) solve our striking problems is just ignorant.Sometimes you just have to roll the dice a little.”

    Yep.

    This “next year” mentality is what has us in this position of trophy drought.

    Next year Chelsea and City and UTD will be/have purchased/purchasing players as well.

    I don’t know where this laissez-faire attitude towards winning comes from.

  80. Carts

    “Costa for £15m + Cazorla, Draxler for £20m + Podolski + pre-season friendly would be good business”.

    Definitely what I had in mind; although the hypo’ Costa deal look about £5m-£7m short of what I see it being.

    RE: Flamini

    He’s catching way too much stick. It’s as if just because we’re top of the league, certain posters think we should be playing Busquets instead of Flamini. It was only 12 months ago that bods were absolutely bitching about how much Arteta slow down the game. How he’s slow. Honestly, the criticism aimed at him was funny. Now Flamini is getting it, although were top.

    RE: Cazorla

    Getting rid of him would simply high light Wenger’s, already inept attribute, of managing more than several top players in one go. Essentially why we haven’t even won a game of Connect 4 in 8 fucking years. He’s another top player, Just like Arshavin, that is being made to play out of position.

    Guess one would argue that with Ozil, Jack and Cazorla all wanting to occupy the centre, then one would have to go..

    RE: Park

    I actually feel sorry for the lad. Prior to signing him, he wasn’t actually a bad player. I think there was a game in the CL last season that he was anonymous, similar to Podolski, when ever he plays up top, and that was literally the last I saw of him. I don’t even think he gets a run out for the U21, ffs. If youtube is anything to go by, then have a look at his compilation- no different to that Stiff, Giroud.

    p.s.

    Benteke>>>>>>>Giroud

  81. Nasri's Mouth

    @Arsene’s Nurse

    In a world cup season where his position is probably at risk, I’d say he wants to be on the pitch

  82. Keyser

    Tits – Like I said you simply don’t want to understand.

    We’re top of the league you plum, and that’s why Podolski, Ox, Theo and others out, do you get that ? We’re top without those players, imagine if they’d stayed fit, or been there for at least a month or two more.

    Yet you keep on making the same tired point regardless, how can you sit there and say ‘1 point’, ‘1 point’ when you can’t understand why we’re there to begin with.

  83. TitsMcgee

    You’re still not bothering to understand, why are we top ? I’ve listed the reason’s, it’s because we’ve built slowly and tried to buy in the right players when they become available, yes we can force through transfers, but fucking hell we can’t just go out and find what we need when we need it.”

    The strikers are there to be had.

    Funny City can find Negredo when we were here “scoffing” at the notion because “he’s not Arsenal quality”.

    Build slow?

    It’s been 9 years now.

  84. Barton

    UcheJanuary 14, 2014 14:16:29
    Funny, reading comments/arguments made on here you’d think Giroud was the only striker that missed clear cut or half chances in Europe. Maybe its just me but I see top strikers miss glaring chances every week, and at least one half chance every game.

    lol, seriously now.

    Giroud is playing for one of the top teams in Europe, he’s in the big league now, consistently missing chances is no longer acceptable.

    Thats my point anyway, its not that he misses a ‘few’ chances, he misses ‘a lot’ chances and when presented with opportunities that many strikers would dream of, he fails to even work the keeper.

    The one against Chelsea really sticks in the mind as a typical Giroud miss

  85. gambon

    Uche

    What are your ambitions for Arsenal?

    I want us to be where Bayern are now. Where UTD have been for years, Barca etc.

    Now why should be expected to challenge teams with such a vastly inferior CF?

    I love the way people try to twist not being satisifed with Giroud into such a crime. Like its personally being unfair to him.

    Do you honestly think any top team is enquiring during the summer (last and this) about Giroud with a view to put him upfront?

    Do you think City, UTD or similar bid for him last summer?

    “But I guess, we’re Arsenal so we should hold Giroud to a higher standard.”

    This is complete fucking bollocks.

    We should have comparable striking talent to other £300m clubs.

    We dont.

    Do you think its right that the 5th richest, and one of the top 8 clubs in the world has probably the 50th best CF in the world?

    Is it right that the PLs top team has the PLs 10th best CF?

  86. Keyser

    Barton – “To think that with our cash reserves and scouting network we can’t find one striker on the planet with a club willing to sell that would (at least go some way to) solve our striking problems is just ignorant.Sometimes you just have to roll the dice a little.”

    Mate, this is what I’ve been trying to explain to Tits here, it’s not about one striker, it’s about finding players that help us bridge the gap to our rivals, we can’t match them financially in one transfer window and the way the market is we need to be careful who we buy.

    We need to find the right players to keep the momentum going, all summer people went on about Benteke, you’re still doing it, if we spent 30 million on him and he ended up scoring 5 goals in half a season how far are we going to get.

    That’s the situation we’re in, and the hope is that Ozil is a sign of our ambition for the future that when we do find the player we want or need we’ll go out and buy them.

    Not just Ozil, but players like Monreal.

  87. Nasri's Mouth

    Gambon: I love the way people try to twist not being satisifed with Giroud into such a crime. Like its personally being unfair to him.

    People don’t twist it though, because it’s you that says things like Giroud is the worst striker in the league. That’s when people think you are being personally unfair to him.

    If you had always said he’s the 10th best, then I doubt you’d get the same arguments

  88. jasongms

    “We have big German influence yet no German sponsors.”

    I was discussing that today . Much rather have BMW sponsored seats than Citroen lol … Seriously the amount of global mega companies that Germany have are mouth watering , from the automotive to pharmaceutical industries . With our German contingent , we have instantly become very marketable .Beats me why we haven’t taken advantage of it

  89. Uche

    MarbleHall January 14, 2014 14:21:45
    Arsenal were 7 points clear at one point during the season that was until they played their achilles heel teams and now it’s just down to one point.

    Mancity and Chelsea were level with Arsenal at one point of the season at zero points, until we played 5 games when we moved ahead, and then stayed ahead after 6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20, and 21 games.

    #Fakefans.

  90. TitsMcgee

    “We’re top of the league you plum, ”

    More insults.

    We’re top of the league by 1 point with a gaggle of INJURIES in mid-January.

    We haven’t won the league(yet) and if we have any DESIRE to win the league we should reinforce.

    It’s really simple.

    The point of being “top of the league” by 1 point in Mid-January is not the goal.

    We’re “top of the league”. Great. Do what it takes to stay there. Not reinforcing is NOT what is needed.

  91. Barton

    Sorry Keyser, I never said we should sign Benteke.

    ”We need to find the right players to keep the momentum going”

    Absolutely agree but are we saying that with the resources available to us at this time we should come up with nothing?

  92. Keyser

    Tits –

    “The strikers are there to be had.
    Funny City can find Negredo when we were here “scoffing” at the notion because “he’s not Arsenal quality”.”

    Think about this, Aguero’s Citeh’s top striker, Negredo’s there to supplement the squad, along with Dzeko and Jovetic who no-one’s seen, and all the other strikers citeh have bought and burned through in the past few years.

    We can’t just spend whatever it takes on any old striker, not only does it have to be the right one for us but also good enough of a fit to compete with Citeh.

    Which is why went for Suarez. How many players can we buy that end up falling short ?

  93. TitsMcgee

    “We need to find the right players to keep the momentum going, all summer people went on about Benteke, you’re still doing it, if we spent 30 million on him and he ended up scoring 5 goals in half a season how far are we going to get.”

    Dumb. Really dumb.

    1. You’re implying playing for Villa and us is the same thing. He’d have more opportunities here.

    2.Benteke is better than Giroud all things equal.

    3. Even if he isn’t having a Benteke backing up Giroud is better than having oxygen backing up Giroud which is EXACTLY who we have now as cover for Giroud.

    You didn’t want Negredo either but he was there and he’s also better.

  94. Barton

    Which is why went for Suarez. How many players can we buy that end up falling short ?

    Going back to what I said about rolling the dice, I’d sooner buy proven WC but every now and again you get a Veron, a Shevchenco or a Torres.

    Your still rolling the dice.

  95. gambon

    Exactly Jason

    So much money to be made from German cos that want to break into Asia.

    Bayern are a giant, but the PL is king in overseas markets.

    UTD are finally cashing in on this and are completely unstoppable from a commercial POV.

    We should be up there too, but we seem to be slow moving.

    We dont have a watch sponsor, wine sponsor, clothing sponsor, logistics – all areas our rivals are exploiting.

    Ive no doubt we have people working hard behind the scenes, but more progress means more money means more Ozils.

    It seems our commercial strategy has just been to cash in with Emirates and Puma, while UTD have now got 40 sponsors.

  96. TitsMcgee

    Think about this, Aguero’s Citeh’s top striker, Negredo’s there to supplement the squad, along with Dzeko and Jovetic who no-one’s seen, and all the other strikers citeh have bought and burned through in the past few years.”

    …but we can’t supplement Giroud with anyone but Bendtner?

    Thanks for making my point.

    Giroud isn’t being SUPPLEMENTED BY ANYONE at the moment.

    (and playing guys out of position doesn’t count).

    Negredo is just one example.

  97. Keyser

    Barton – Nothing ? We had Theo, Podolski and Giroud, then Bendtner and Sanogo, like I said the right players and we still bought Ozil, which people just gloss over.

  98. Uche

    @gambon

    I don’t agree with the premise of your argument, so this will be a short response.

    I think Giroud is perfect for us right now. In the summer, like very other team in the world we’ll reevaluate our squad and look for ways to improve it.

    This season, we’re competing in the Prem, FA cup , and CL and I think Giroud is good enough in our system for those competitions. Will we win all of them? Frankly I don’t care about the FA cup, no one can honestly expect to win the CL in January, and I DO think we’ll win the league.

    I don’t care to engage in arguments about how bad Giroud is because I think he’s actually quite good and will improve.

    COYG!

  99. TitsMcgee

    When Aguero goes off injured he has a Negredo/Dzeko etc.

    Nobody is saying to spunk 100m on 3-4 backup strikers but 1 of quality would be welcome.

  100. El Patron

    I’m tired of Arsenal fans listening to the pundits.

    I for one doesn’t care whether we beat the best teams in the league or not. It’s irrelevant. Manchester united won the league last year and Lost to chelsea, City and couldn’t beat Spurs etc. They still won the league by a mile.

    My point is… we don’t need to beat Chelsea and City to win the league. This is not a cup competition. As long as we finish the year on top of the pile I don’t care who we beat (minus spurs… we should always beat spurs) or don’t beat.

  101. gambon

    Uche

    1- Why would a 27 year old improve?

    2- If we dont win anything this year (the likely outcome) will you be in the “we need a better CF” corwd?

    If not, doesnt that just make you a fan-boy? Possibly a bit of man love?

  102. TitsMcgee

    “Going back to what I said about rolling the dice, I’d sooner buy proven WC but every now and again you get a Veron, a Shevchenco or a Torres.Your still rolling the dice.”

    That’s the thing. Keyser/Wenger wants “proven” but doesn’t want to spend “proven” money.

    Secondly every single player is a gamble. Every single one. You can’t wait for Ozil’s to fall in your lap. You have to go out and make educated guesses sometimes.

    This “we’ll get them next year boys” mentality is mind-boggling. Again nobody is saying go spend 100m in every window but don’t go the opposite route and roll the dice with a bare-bones squad either.

  103. Simon

    Tits

    everyone agrees we need a quality striker. We don’t have one. Do you know one that is available in January? I don’t. If we need scouts to identify this gem I’d be a little cautious about that signing personally as we fight for a title.

    We could I guess endlessly get angry about screwing up in the summer though! And start the whole thing again…

  104. Barton

    Keyser,

    Theo & Poldi are not, never have been and never will be strikers.

    We have 4 Strikers, Giroud, Bentner, Sanogo & Park

    If your saying you can’t improve on this in any way, that’s fine, I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree.

    @Ouch, how long are you prepared to give OG to come good, I gave him 18 months, its only recently reality has hit me.

  105. Carts

    tits

    Negredo: An absolutely clinical powerhouse who’s getting better. Guaranteed, if he was mentioned, even right up to the very last second he signed for City, some idiot, somewhere, would’ve said “nah, he’s not an Arsenal type of player. He wouldn’t fit our system bla bla bla”.

    Was it that Pellegrini was already shortlisting players prior to signing for City? Maybe so. Aside from the bottomless pit of money, it didn’t take very long to tie up their players.

    Were Spurs also looking at Negredo, prior to signing Soldado? Yes.

    All the while, were we making ill-judged bids for Suarez? Very much so.

    Did we then embarrassingly try a loan bid for Ba after signing Ozil for £42.5m? Fuck yes.

    Very disorganised dealings, if you ask me. Losing this league will boil down to one simple fact…we don’t have a clinical enough striker. Anyone who disputes this is a idiot.

  106. TitsMcgee

    “good on you for taking on the doomers/depressives.”

    We’ll see if your whistling the same tune come the end of the season when we miss out on the league by 4-5 points.

  107. gambon

    “Manchester united won the league last year and Lost to chelsea, City and couldn’t beat Spurs etc. They still won the league by a mile.”

    They also beat City and Chelsea.

    “My point is… we don’t need to beat Chelsea and City to win the league”

    Bearning in mind we are 1 clear of City and 1 clear of Chelsea, we really do have to beat these teams, at least one.

    If City equal points to us in the next 16 games then the game against City will decide the title, ditto for Chelsea.

    If City and Chelsea beat us in the 2 games,m we absolutely dont win the league, guaranteed.

  108. Keyser

    Tits – Top of the league and you can’t explain it, don’t want to understand it and are just rambling on.

    It isn’t about just supplmenting Giroud, it’s about finding ways to bridge the gap to Citeh and the others, so is Negredo or Benteke as good as Aguero or whoever Citeh would’ve bought instead ?

    ..and also we’d have to outbid Citeh in the first place, they didn’t just buy Negredo they spent 20 million on him and 3 others totalling about 90 odd million.

    But lalalalala, instead of bothering to understand the situation we’re in you’re going to prattle on about the same things, repeating it again and again.

    If we don’t win the league, it won’t be because of who we did or didn’t buy, we weren’t expected to win the league to begin with, just like you didn’t expect us to be a point clear in January and that’s what you need to understand.

  109. Nasri's Mouth

    Simon: We could I guess endlessly get angry about screwing up in the summer though! And start the whole thing again…

    Oohh, can we ?

  110. TitsMcgee

    Was it that Pellegrini was already shortlisting players prior to signing for City? Maybe so. Aside from the bottomless pit of money, it didn’t take very long to tie up their players.”

    “Did we then embarrassingly try a loan bid for Ba after signing Ozil for £42.5m? Fuck yes.”

    Yep after he had all summer to get somebody. Hell Ba was sitting there all summer too.

  111. TitsMcgee

    If not, doesnt that just make you a fan-boy? ”

    That’s basically what it boils down to. Bragging rights now. Probably deep down they know we won’t win but are living in the moment now while they can. I dunno.

    I’m just thinking ahead and I’ll gladly kiss Wenger’s arse if we do win but I’m confident it won’t come to that.

  112. TitsMcgee

    Transfer News Live ‏@DeadlineDayLive 1h
    Schalke are preparing for the departure of Arsenal target Julian Draxler. (Source: BILD via: @JanAageFjortoft)

  113. Uche

    People like to totally ignore how City got to this wonderful strikeforce of theirs, forgetting how much it cost

    Adebayor 24m
    Santa Cruz 8m
    Jo 18m
    Balotelli 20m
    Tevez 25m
    Jovetic 23m
    Dzeko 27m
    Negredo 22m
    Aguero 35m
    (Did I miss anyone?)

    Yeah, I don’t think we spend 202m in 4 years playing mix and match, just to make pundits and fans comfortable about our squad depth.

    Oil money is real

  114. Keyser

    Barton – I don’t know how many more ways to say it, it isn’t about just improving is it ? It’s about finding someone that gives us enough potential to compete with the likes of Citeh and Chelsea.

    Does it matter if Benteke’s an improvement on Giroud or not if he isn’t good enough to allow us to compete for the title anyway.

    Our top 4 scorers last year were Giroud, Theo, Podolski and Cazorla, we don’t have to simply rely on one figurehead striker, we play with 3 forwards.

    Not just a striker either, which is why we bought Ozil, Ozil is as good as anything our rivals have but at the same time cost 42.5 million and we were lucky Madrid wanted to sell and he wanted out.

    Do you see now why it might be tough ? Stop going on like any random striking improvement’s enough, it’s obviously not is it ?

  115. Barton

    I think the thing that’s getting to me is that we were obviously after a striker in summer, we had our targets and got knocked back, I can accept that part but we’ve had a further 5 months or so to find one and still no closer.

    Who’s to say were going to find one come summer?

    Call me a ‘doomer’ if you like, I’d love us to find that special player but its been 18 months since we let RVP go and were still no closer to replacing him.