Ozil love fest continues… | Are Arsenal challengers?

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More fall out from transfer deadline day melted out into the public domain with Jose Mourinho admitting Arsenal’s capture of Mesut Ozil has made them title contenders.

“Ozil is unique,”

“There is no copy of him – not even a bad one. He is the best number 10 in the world. He makes things very easy for me and for his team-mates with his football vision and the decisions he makes.

“Everyone loves him and sees a bit of Luis Figo and Zinedine Zidane in him.

“We didn’t accept Arsenal’s offer for Demba Ba because the signing of Ozil makes them title contenders.”

Pretty strong words from a man who normally takes any opportunity to spite Arsene or the club. I’m not sure we’re title contenders without a striker. To be honest, it would have been a massive ask with one. We don’t have enough bodies to make it through to the end of the season. We’re definitely capable of mounting a challenge though. A pal said he reckons this will be like 2007-08. You know, solid starting eleven, went to pieces when we lost Flamini, Robin and the form of Adebayor.

I’d take that…

We have a pretty easy run of 7 games coming up, if we win 5 of those, we’ll be in contention around the time our squad players begin to return to the fold… which is exactly the time we’ll need them.

Regardless of the realities of winning the league this year…we are now in a position next year where we’ll have £100m to spend again next summer. If we put that in the right places early, then we’re experienced in the right areas, with a couple of good prospects coming through as well as being settled.

Simply put, the league has never been so strong… which is why the back room mini revolution of last season needs to continue. Steve Bould needs to continue pushing his vision. Hopefully that is better utilisation of tech, putting more importance on numbers and spending more time on sussing out the opposition.

Getting stuff done correctly behind the scenes is one of the biggest challenges outside transfers Wenger faces…

The club are also embarking on a contract renewal spree. Per Mertesacker is after some more years on his deal, as is Thomas Rosicky and Bacary Sagna. All important players, all loaded with experience. Secure them Arsene, regardless of age.

I think what Arsene has done well is keep a settled side going. We’re out of the woods with players contracts being up. We don’t have anyone who wants to leave right now, who would after the Ozil signing? Commercials are dropping, some of our underperformers are coming good and we have a few players looking to make major second season progress.

Things feel positive at the moment. It’s just a shame Arsene didn’t really make a go of the summer. We could easily be challenging for the league had he added another 3 quality additions to the side.

… that’s Arsene for you. Whatever though, I’m feeling excited about the season and that’s all you want to feel as a fan. The club invested in the team in a big way, even if it was one gigantic transfer ejaculation… the ground should be buzzing. That’s a major kick on from last year.

Also, without meaning to gloat, but signing major players was such a ‘meh’ things for so many fans… amusing to see how absolutely over the moon they are now we have spent a disgusting amount of money on a great player. Money buys happiness, it buys time, prestige, excitement and it buys quality.

Right, bit of a captain obvious post this morning. More from me tomorrow! Have a good one!

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  1. zeus

    I didn’t even finish reading that comment…………….

    Nani? The money would be better spent on NANI?

    Disgrsceful comment. Take a peak over on Republik of Mancunia and you’ll see that the Scum fans want Nani out the club like we wanted Foreheadinho gone.

  2. Nasri's Mouth

    The issue with Rooney is although he doesn’t have the standard no.10 skill set, it’s his best position because of what else he gives to the team, (work rate, tracking back, tackling etc.) so I’m not sure how he’d work with Ozil.

    despite my dislike of Suarez as a person, he’d do very well with Ozil

  3. Alex James

    Sorry I cannot be fair to anyone who goes from us to the Mancs. I can understand his reasons but it doesn’t lessen the hurt. I have spent my life living in the shadow of Utd this, Utd that. Since Munich, i have grown up with generations of glory hunters in Essex, Surrey, Cornwall etc who claim an affinity with the club, even though they wouldn’t know where Manchester is. Can you imagine being a City fan, with half the country supporting your neighbours, for reasons that have nothing to do with being Manchester born

  4. Toli83

    Suarez would do well, at Liverpool he scores from chances he creates himself, doesn’t really have a decent supplier.

    If we do well to January some of the big names will start to see us a draw again. My fear is that we rest on our laurels and not get anyone else…

  5. southernpeople

    I Gunner Believe it

    “southernpeopleyes mate but there so called “DATA” is based on their opinion of a referee’s decision, their opinion could be biased as they have a vested interest.. It makes more sense to take thee views of a cross section, so e,g, a fan of the opponents team and neutral observer and then correlate that and factor that in with your “data”.It’s very relevant and to say otherwise would be ridiculous”

    I was away and I haven’t following up the bias argument I made, but I am glad you contributed to it.

    I’d make few points:
    1. science doesn’t need opponent opinion or validation to be valid. 2. 2. they use fouls spotted by refs without being correctly penalised. 3. their use of ‘data’ is not the controversy it’s their analysis that people do not agree. 4. they have consistency in applying the same principle to all other decisions related to other teams . 5.if you gave me some of the decisions they incorrectly included then i’d accept your argument . 6. science is always full of ‘subjectivity’ which is normal because we’re all humans and have emotions that interfere without our independent judgement. There’s no point denying that.

    7. You mentioned factoring in opponents opinion but do you need for every research? I talked about the possibility of ‘triangulating’ other data from other researches which could increase the validity, but that doesn’t mean it is the only the right way to claim ‘science’ or research an issue.

  6. Nasri's Mouth

    @Toli83

    A signing or 2 in January wouldn’t surprise me to be honest. If we’re looking for a top top striker though, it’s going to be tricky, they’re short on the ground and going to be very hard to pull away from their clubs.

  7. Nasri's Mouth

    @Southernpeople

    Untolds reffing bias analysis is based on their opinion, as such it can’t be offered as anything more than that.

    Any statistical analysis completed by people with a vested interest in the results, and whose background in other areas is biased to say the least would be laughed at if it was offered as a serious review.

    It’s a couple of blokes down the pub stating the ref’s a cunt wrapped up in a little pseudo science to make it sound believable.

  8. vicky

    Getting a quality striker in January window is very difficult.

    Liverpool,in my estimate,will do reasonably well until January.

    Their fate will be decided in the last few weeks of the season. That makes getting Suarez almost impossible.

    We have missed a great opportunity . Suarez was there for the taking. We played all sorts of dirty games and pissed Liverpool off.

  9. MarsBar

    All these world best teams, all playing 4-3-3 pick a 4-4-2- then iniesta and cesc can play Jesus. Cesc in the middle and iniesta on the left. Ronaldo and RVP up front.

    Anywaaaaaaay…

    The middle of the park is sorted for us now, Cazorla will slot in on the left. Just leaves Wenger to decide who or what happens up top tactical wise in certain games.

    Hatred for giroud though, don’t take away he does and has worked hard. Regardless like him or not until he stops scoring I don’t give a shit.

    Let’s judge the team in a few months before say what we can and cannot do. Because right now in 4/5 games I haven’t seen enough to warrant a ‘logical’ decision without the highs and lows of football being involved.

  10. southernpeople

    Why this sudden criticism of ManU loosing out on some players? Is not the first time and it won’t be the last!

    and then wasn’t everyone, in the media, saying that Fellaini is a thing of beauty and a beast who would greatly improve the Arsenal team? Why suddenly nobody is rating him or applauding United for signing him? If his purchase would have improved Arsenal then how come it won’t improve United?

    United were the Champions, have the two greatest strikers in English football as well a quality and very experienced defensive unit so the addition of a so highly creature such Fellaini should dramatically improve their team. Talk about creativity doesn’t make sense, and wont prevent them from winning with their current strengths, since when United were so creative? They were always kind of fighters with a cheerleader band behind.

  11. Nasri's Mouth

    @southernPeople

    ManU don’t have a top winger (Giggs is surely on his last legs now), their fullbacks aren’t exactly brilliant at the moment, and their first choice centre backs are injury prone. They haven’t got a massive amount of creativity in the middle of the pitch either.

    Fellaini is a good signing for them, he’d a good signing for any side, but their pursuit of Fabregas shows they needed something more on top

    They fucked up the transfer window

  12. southernpeople

    NM

    “Any statistical analysis completed by people with a vested interest in the results, and whose background in other areas is biased to say the least would be laughed at if it was offered as a serious review.”

    Do you need know of any scientist who doesn’t a vested interest in researched issue? You’re making an strange statement there? The guys have research objectives, philosophy and methodology that they outlined in their website to enable others to see what they measured, how they measured and their results. So you could criticise them by evaluating the standard measurement, consistency and the research validity if you wanted to, but you cannot just dismiss them like that.

    I personally don’t know the guys, don’t read about their other opinions but when I saw the way they collected their data and analysed them I concluded that is a reasonable and valid way to research issues.

    I’d like to see others club fans to do similar assessment of referees so that we could combine and triangulate. So for example, a Man U fan without his bias would rank Arsenal low in the biased againt while others from other clubs would rank them high so we basically take the average of subjective opinions to come to ‘objective’ conclusions. ohterwise pure objectivity is delusional.

  13. Sam

    I am happy with Giroud as our main striker as long as we strengthen other area in the team.
    He’s not van persie and van persie is not henry every striker is different.
    Yup, can miss 12 sitters then score 2 and we win.
    No striker score 4/ 5 goals a game it’s always 1 or 2 rarely 3.
    If it’s only one player we need I would say another creative player/ dynamic winger.
    Arsenal priority should be to have fluency/ creativity. Break down any defence .

  14. southernpeople

    NM I agree that Giggs, and maybe Ferdinand some degree, are wont be what they were last because of their age, but the others are still ok. plus this highly rated addition. Their younger players (Jones, Clev, the Brazilian bro, the English lad upfront and the Japanase player would all improve. So do not underestimate their team. My point is; ManU may not need creativity to be strong competitor.

  15. Nasri's Mouth

    Southernpeople: Do you need know of any scientist who doesn’t a vested interest in researched issue?

    In the results ?

    Actually yes.

    Southernpeople: The guys have research objectives, philosophy and methodology that they outlined in their website to enable others to see what they measured, how they measured and their results

    Which when it comes down to it, is purely their very subjective opinion, however much they try to dress it up.

    I agree with your point about seeing other clubs do something similar, and that’s the crux, because as none of the reviewing would be done blind, some kind of balance would make it more worthwhile but I come back to my point about 2 blokes arguing in a pub about whether the ref is a cunt and the view from the other side would be just as inconsistent, so in reality neither side would be viable.

  16. southernpeople

    Gunner when Ozil controls that ball with his heels the Barca defender is gobsmacked. Only few players can do that and Benzema is one of them. If Real do not renew his contract until Jan we should bid for him. his the missing piece from our team after Ozil.

  17. southernpeople

    AKB KR

    “Southernpeople – give it a rest. Untold are nutters. Totally gaga.?”

    There is wisdom in my culture that says wisdom may come from the mouth of nutters. As earlier I don’t accept ad hominem arguments.

    “There is no bias!!”

    Strange? you’re accusing some people to be nutters because they couldn’t , in your opinion, prove the existence of bias, but you’re here to claim that there’s no bias as if you researched the issue and demonstrated its falseness!!

    Can you prove it?
    Show me how their facts are biased so that I could accept your argument.

  18. Nasri's Mouth

    @southernpeople

    Of course ManU will be a force, but the reason that people aren’t standing up and applauding them for signing Fellaini is that he was nailed on for them this summer, and yet they somehow managed to pay several million over his release clause simply because they didn’t bid for him before it expired.

  19. Dream10

    southernpeople

    Benzema’s technique is so pure. Glorious. Fitness is a problem from him. Also, a player like Luis Suarez plays with a fire in him. Suarez will do everything in his power and will not be denied. Benzema plays in third gear too often.

  20. southernpeople

    NM
    “but I come back to my point about 2 blokes arguing in a pub about whether the ref is a cunt and the view from the other side would be just as inconsistent, so in reality neither side would be viable”

    What is a viable way to show ref. bias in your opinion then? I said subjectivity of research is not an issue and there’s the possibility of triangulating different researches, opportunity for ‘inter-subjectivity’.

    I do not agree when you inconsistency unless you show me where and when it occurred. Anyway, we agree to disagree.

    “”I agree with your point about seeing other clubs do something similar, and that’s the crux, because as none of the reviewing would be done blind, some kind of balance would make it more worthwhile”

    At least we agree on that point

  21. southernpeople

    NasriMouth

    “Of course ManU will be a force, but the reason that people aren’t standing up and applauding them for signing Fellaini is that he was nailed on for them this summer, and yet they somehow managed to pay several million over his release clause simply because they didn’t bid for him before it expired.”

    you’re right about the fact that they could have signed him earlier and arguably cheaper had Moyes not angered his former employer with a ‘derisory’ bid. That was bad way to business.

  22. southernpeople

    Dream10

    “Benzema’s technique is so pure. Glorious. Fitness is a problem from him. Also, a player like Luis Suarez plays with a fire in him. Suarez will do everything in his power and will not be denied. Benzema plays in third gear too often.”

    that’s what his performances never matched his talent and ability on the ball. the guy can score from anywhere, but he refuses to get into the right position + he doesn’t like to be striker. He doesn’t like to do a lot of effort. But, his link up play is just sublime.

  23. Nasri's Mouth

    @southernpeople

    It’s nothing to do with angering his former employer.

    Fellaini had a release clause. If ManU had put in a bid for that amount before it expired they’d have got him for that price rather than pay several million more for him at the end of the window.

  24. southernpeople

    Nasri’s Mouth
    I was saying the fact that the bid didn’t even match the release clause known to Moyes angered Everton and led them, presumably, to increase their valuation or price.

  25. Arsenal 1886-2006

    On the untold referee debate, do they watch every premier league match played over the weekend and analyse every decision from every angle or is it just Arsenal games?
    If it is just Arsenal games then the claim of bias against Arsenal is pretty weak, you have to judge on every single match played over the season by all clubs, and even then it does not tell the right story.

    Every match is different, there is no set amount of late or poor tackles, offsides or any other type of foul leading to a free kick, penalty or yellow or red card.
    Matches are played at different tempo’s on different standards of pitches, although generally they are pretty good these day’s. Was it raining on that day and was the pitch soaked making for more sliding tackles with less control of your body? I could go on and list many factor’s on this side of the argument.

    The referees, was the ref unsighted when he failed to give a decision? there is also the possibility of late on in the game fatigue setting in, it happens to players and I am sure it affect’s ref’s judgement as well.
    Was there something he saw that the cameras did not pick up earlier in play? you hear the pundit’s arguing over decisions all the time and they have the pleasure of replay’s and frame by frame analysis yet they still disagree.

    I could go on and list dozen’s of different scenario’s that occur during a match that two people would argue the toss over until the end of day’s, human error is part of the game, always has been and always will be, it is what make’s for a great spectacle.

    I do feel as though the officials get a rough deal and make an easy scapegoat for managers and fan’s alike, they have a thankless task and are constantly abused by the player’s, would you accept that in your work place? probably not.

    I understand that what untold do is just their opinion, and that is just what it is, an opinion. If they believe it to be scientifically factual and have proof of this then why do they not get Arsenal to let them put it into print in the match day programme if they are so sure?
    This of course is something they would not do, on the internet you can basically say what you please without censure, if what they say was put into printed publication they would be liable to face charges from the accused referee’s and forced to stand in a court of law to prove their ‘facts’.
    They would quite likely lose the case and be laughed out of court and face having to pay heavy cost’s to the accused.
    They hide behind their keyboard in the same way as every other person, including all of us do.

    In science nothing is accepted as definite fact until all data is cross examined by your peers and then checked over and over again, and if one tiny piece is wrong your findings are dismissed.
    What they do is not scientific, it is an opinion based on a tiny sample of what they believe to be an issue.

  26. southernpeople

    Arsenal 1886

    “On the untold referee debate, do they watch every premier league match played over the weekend and analyse every decision from every angle or is it just Arsenal games?
    If it is just Arsenal games then the claim of bias against Arsenal is pretty weak, you have to judge on every single match played over the season by all clubs, and even then it does not tell the right story.”

    They watch selected games for all teams equally and then issue a table. As I said earlier that table showed that Chelsea were ranked high in the biased against team last season when they competed with us of third/fourth place. So if they guys were just some fanatical biased fan they could have targeted Chelsea rather than ManU. But, they showed Manu had most favours even though were were not in their league last season.

  27. GoonerDave

    It’s laughable to compare the interpretation of the (already vague) rules of football to science. Science has very little to do with opinion, other than the fact that opinions forge hypothesis and experimentation.
    It cannot be repeatedly proven in a lab whether a ref got a decision wrong! Science is definitive knowledge, not opinion.
    Untold actually try hard to give a fair referee review to most PL games. No doubt some/all of the reviewers are biased towards Arsenal. But he does claim to have at least one ex-PL ref on his reviews team.
    That said, even though I support AW, I find Untold Arsenal to be full of holier than thou muppets. Any comment remotely questioning the manager is met with derision and outrage, even anger. Not debate. Sort of fundamentalist AW supporters!

  28. southernpeople

    Arsenal 1886 you have a lot of valid argument raised in your post that cannot all be analysed right now. However, consider this: see what they measure, how they do and what match day evidence they take, their consistency of data collection for all teams and then argue against that. Simple as that.

    What should be considered ‘science’ is when you measure something with clear standard, consistency that can be re-checked by fellow researchers or any other interested party.

    “This of course is something they would not do, on the internet you can basically say what you please without censure, if what they say was put into printed publication they would be liable to face charges from the accused referee’s and forced to stand in a court of law to prove their ‘facts’.”

    They wouldn’t; internet or published the liability is the same. They do not accuse anyone, they only show analysis of their evidence even if that evidence is based on loose science they still won’t be liable unless they completely lied, if that the case then why they’re not brought before courts.

    They would quite likely lose the case and be laughed out of court and face having to pay heavy cost’s to the accused.
    “They hide behind their keyboard in the same way as every other person, including all of us do.In science nothing is accepted as definite fact until all data is cross examined by your peers and then checked over and over again, and if one tiny piece is wrong your findings are dismissed.”

    When you feel powerless you cannot do otherwise; the keyboard is their only tool to get their point across.

    I am not defending the guys I just see some truth, how little that maybe, in what they say. I especially agree with them more when they talk about referees bias for their regions’ clubs. All am I saying is that we shouldn’t dismiss their analysis with evaluation. I welcome all the evaluation even though I personally cannot undertake a complete evaluation of their research methodologies and data.

  29. Dream10

    southernpeople

    We need two more goalscorers in our squad. One of them has to be a top of the line goal getter who can score against big teams in European Competition.
    The other has to be an excellent player who can also link play.

    A)One 35-40 goal man.
    B) The other a 20-30 goal man.

    A) Falcao. Second Suarez.
    B) Suarez. Second Benzema

    This window I wanted a GK, DM, and TWO forwards. All star players
    A playmaker was a bonus.

    We are short on goals against top competition. Its fine to score a lot against bottom teams and in the European Group Stage. Falcao earns his money because he scores every week and against all opposition, including BIG TEAMS

  30. Arsenal 1886-2006

    southern people.

    “They watch selected games for all teams equally and then issue a table”.

    That is not proper research, that is akin to taking an opinion poll of 100 people and then labelling the whole population based on the result.
    And who decides on the selected games, who are the games played against, was it a relegation or top of the table mach, what was the condition of the pitch, what was the tempo of the match, was one team sitting back while they other attacked all game so likely committing to more tackles and likely more fouls?

    That is not proper research and objective, that is selective and bears no semblance of impartiality to claim something as factual.

    I could probably pick ten matches we played in which the officials have made an error that may have cost us a goal, I could also probably pick another ten matches where an officials error won us a goal.

    I am no different, I could find ten things with which to criticise Wenger, I could also find ten thing’s with which to praise Wenger but I am not pro Wenger so I do not look for these thing’s, I am not totally anti Wenger but I do believe we need somebody fresh at the club to move us on.
    Our opinion’s are driven by our thought’s on certain subject’s, much the same as our political or social thought’s.
    I am not criticising them for their opinion, just that they try to pass it as fact.

    Not having a pop at you either, I agree with some of the thing’s you have said in recent day’s, I like it when there are differing views, it makes for a better blog.
    But all we are doing is passing on our opinion, most of us believe in what we say but that does not make it fact.

  31. southernpeople

    Dream 10

    Are you suggesting we change our formation to 442? If no I don’t see the point of getting 2more goalgetters. I versatile goalgetter, with palmaking and scoring abilities, is enough. Someone like Benzema preferably or Suarez, and to a lesser degree Rooney, would do just that. I rather we add a winger and a defender as well. If we could add that much then we would compete. I’m looking forward to January, what excuses would they offer for not buying then?

  32. Arsenal 1886-2006

    GoonerDave.

    Somebody earlier in the day said it was scientific, I was just using what they believed to be scientific.
    Football is basically chaos.

  33. Wenger's Unused Wallet

    My fear is the Özil signing will be a one off, as wenger will probably return to rummaging in the bargain bins for players in subsequent transfer windows.
    Just when all arsenal fans will get excited that we might sign a top class striker, Wenger and Gazidis will bring us back down to earth.

    this 20000%.

  34. southernpeople

    Arsenal 1886

    “That is not proper research, that is akin to taking an opinion poll of 100 people and then labelling the whole population based on the result.”
    you can only analyse a chosen random sample of the populations and generalise to the population. Is there any other possibility to know? Are you suggesting they should do all games of a team to show a bias against it? If yes, then that’s not science. So if you have issue with their sample choice methods then go and see. It seems you’re criticising them without seeing how went on about their sample and research methods.

    “And who decides on the selected games, who are the games played against, was it a relegation or top of the table match, what was the condition of the pitch, what was the tempo of the match, was one team sitting back while they other attacked all game so likely committing to more tackles and likely more fouls?”

    few problems with this large statement:
    “first, you don’t have to include all indicators in one research that’s impossible. second, they selected the games based on their sampling method and they don’t claim otherwise so you judge by that. third, again you just need to read their criteria of research and data sampling and collection and their subsequent analysis to come to an informed conclusion about their research.

  35. GoonerDave

    The only good thing about Untold Arsenal is the referee reviews. More specific than most people realise and a vast array of games reviewed.
    Doesn’t change the fact that they are a defensive, snobby bunch in the main.

  36. Dream10

    southerngooner

    4-4-2 is my favourite formation. Love to see two strikers combine. Fucking amazing.

    For our current formation, do you want a striker and a winger (left footed or right footed?) Because we have Gibbs, maybe Vermaelen, Ozil and maybe Podolski starting at times. Five left footed players way too much.

    Not a fan of left footed centrebacks and left footed #9’s

  37. southernpeople

    Arsenal 1886

    “Our opinion’s are driven by our thought’s on certain subject’s, much the same as our political or social thought’s.”

    Are you suggesting research should be completely objective without a political and social agenda to claim validity? or are judging all researches based on what they offer on the table?

    Every research, no matter how rigorous its methods, is human-laden, subjective and politically driven with big agenda, however, that doesn’t necessarily mean they have to be dismissed straight away. We need to challenge their methods and evaluate it to critique it otherwise we’re just prejudicing them.

    “I am not criticising them for their opinion, just that they try to pass it as fact.”

    The problem is that you don’t say how it is opinion and not facts.

  38. Arsenal 1886-2006

    southern people

    Yeah I went on a bit of a tangent there, sorry about that. But human error is part and parcel of the game, whether the ref’s or a player.
    I honestly cannot remember a referee making a decision where I felt he made it because it was Arsenal, I have seen them make poor decision’s based on the crowd swaying them, I have seen pressure from opposing players that then leads them to feel they may have made a mistake and feel pressured to rectify by giving the decision, having an assessor in the stands doesn’t always help.

    One thing I do not want to see is technology taking over, we have seen the controversy in the recent Ashes series to know that is not the knight in shining armour that some believe it to be.

    And anyway, if you take away the errors we have nothing to argue about and football loses a part of it’s allure.

  39. southernpeople

    Dream 10

    I liked 442 as well because it was more dynamic in my opinion and suited our taste, arsenal fans. But even with that formation we can could use OG and another world class striker who assume both playmaking and scoring roles. and behind that we can for example use Arteta and Wilshere/Ramsey/Flamin, and Walcot and Caz/Ozil. there we would have a problem of having one great player Caz/Ozil warming the bench unless we decided we use Ozil on right and Caz on left with both players as winger/playmakers a la Pires. that would be fantastic but I think Theo is also useful at the moment.

  40. Arsenal 1886-2006

    southern people.

    What I was saying is it is not scientific in it’s nature, in science you do not omit certain related events because that will give a false answer. That is why I believe to have real substance they need to assess every game to get a true assessment at the end of the season, then it becomes something that carries some weight.

  41. southernpeople

    Arsenal 1886
    “I honestly cannot remember a referee making a decision where I felt he made it because it was Arsenal, I have seen them make poor decision’s based on the crowd swaying them, I have seen pressure from opposing players that then leads them to feel they may have made a mistake and feel pressured to rectify by giving the decision, having an assessor in the stands doesn’t always help.”

    I myself do not claim referees have agenda against Arsenal, but that doesn’t mean I should dismiss anyone who analyse ref.decisions.
    But, consider the following point:

    1. A ref. from North who was brought up watching ManU may develop UNCONSCIOUSLY a bias against the London teams as he used to hate them. And that sort of prejudice clouding the judgement is your argument against the Untold so it’s valid here as well.

    2. Philosophical and paradigmatic unconcious bias; for example, I love Arsenal style football based on quick passing, creativity, less physical chanllenges, clean tackles so if I became a ref. I would be definitely UNCONSCIOUSLY biased against teams who love physical game and tackle hard; a bit of ball and the player.

    3. The more you become unfashionable – less big star players, fans and media attitudes towards your a team – the likelihood of biased decisions against might increase.
    4. the impression of a team of foreigners without no English players may influence referees decisions. That’s why I think Arsenal with current crop of English players, who would stand up to refs during games and in the media, would eventually improve Arsenal image in the eyes of the fans and media. Similarly, having more big star players might help our image and influence.

    So as you can see the above mentioned points could apply to all teams and isn’t some specifically designed tactics for Arsenal.

  42. southernpeople

    Arsenal 1886
    “One thing I do not want to see is technology taking over, we have seen the controversy in the recent Ashes series to know that is not the knight in shining armour that some believe it to be.”

    I agree with you on that although I believe goal-line tech. only should be used. That would less controversial I guess. I think we should more refs for example.

  43. MadeToLoveMagic

    Gunner,

    I think he means he’s going to bed to knock one out over OZil knocking one in 🙂

    Fuck why are talksport advertising sex lines!, wtf how cheap is that

    Just sunk in , OZil cazorla Wilshere rosicky and Rambo on current form is serious creativity, Damn this international break. I wanna see arsenal play NOOWWWW

  44. Marc

    I actually think there was a major problem with the refereeing of Arsenal games against the shit kicker teams. How can a Ref allow a team to kick the shit out of anything that moves when that teams captain has written in the program notes that Arsenal players scream like girls when they are kicked?

    How can the FA not take action after a game like that?

    It’s only got better because we are seeing the decline of really poor coaches like Brown, Allydyce and Hughes who must be in his last job (unless of course he is made FA technical director).

    Now we have the current clown in charge of the FA asking the PL to help develop English players so England can compete – moron. The simple answer is to teach them to play football not be thugs. We seem to quite good at producing thugs without any training or encouragement.

  45. Thomas, it's up for grabs now..

    Özil can be a practicing Jedi for all I care! 🙂

    This boy is massive:
    Arsenal have 14.6m fans on Facebook. Özil has 11m.
    Arsenal have 2,740,000 followers on Twitter. Özil has 3,253,000.

    There must be some lads now working overtime through the night over at The Armoury cursing Özil and punching out shirts with his name on it.

    Memo to purchasing manager at The Armoury. Buy more fucking Z’s and for fuck sake don’t forget to buy the umlauts!

    Finally!

  46. Gunner2301

    MTLM

    😆 Good one.

    Yeah I’ve wondered about some of the ads on Talksport too plus theres way too many. If their that desperate for money I’ll give them some just to keep the fucking air clear for a bit, so annoying.

    I think Wilshire is gonna have to watch from the bench. No doubt he’ll get a look in but he can’t play too many games anyway so maybe its a blessing.

  47. southernpeople

    Marc

    “I actually think there was a major problem with the refereeing of Arsenal games against the shit kicker teams. How can a Ref allow a team to kick the shit out of anything that moves when that teams captain has written in the program notes that Arsenal players scream like girls when they are kicked?How can the FA not take action after a game like that?”

    I agree with you it’s puzzling. Licence to kick is what prejudiced all those years.

    You have a good argument there, but I am going to rest now. So have good night ya all.

  48. MadeToLoveMagic

    Gunner,

    Yeah Rambo form has come at such an important time, as now we have ozil, jack can get more well needed rest , haha I bet wengers screwing about Wilshere playing two games for England

    Are talk sport skint?? I thought they were doing the best they have ever done ATM, how ever skint they are there is no excuse for cheap sex ads, mental. Makes me really not want to listen

  49. sam

    Home grown boys can save the club money for world class prima donnas.
    Wenger has not ball to play Akpom, he’d rather send himto rotherham to get injured and give his place to a useless french twat.

  50. luke

    Arsene’s NurseSeptember 5, 2013 16:07:44

    If you take out all the mickey mouse teams that Walcott scores 2-3 goals against in one game then his stats are ordinary to say the least.. Anyone with any footballing knowledge knows this. Come back with Walcott’s stats when he starts doing it against the big boys.
    ————————————————

    Such rubbish. Theo had 14 goals in the PL last year. Five of them came against top 7 teams: he scored one each against: Spuds, Everton, Chelsea, Manure, Liverpool.

    I decided to do a little bit of math too! 5 goals / 14 total goals gives you 36%.
    7 clubs / 20 total clubs gives you 35%. Technically, Theo scores more against the top 7 then everyone else. I can’t stand this fucking myth that theo doesn’t score against the top teams and then pads his stats with good performances against poor teams.

  51. luke

    Remember the Chelsea home game a few years back, where we got our first win over a top 4 team for some time? Theo: 2 goals, 1 assist to Cesc.

  52. Rohan

    I hope we do the double over United. That’s my number 1 aim for this season. I’d love to push them into a top 4 dogfight with Spurs and Liverpool.

    I don’t think it’s that impossible either. RvP’s mug will make my year. Scratch that, my decade.

  53. Munitionsman

    The signing of mesut has completely changed my view of the club and my feeling of the season ahead. Might even buy me an ozil away strip too. Who would of thought that investing in a business could actually bring about an improvement in profits. What a breath taking concept.

    I am glad we bought mesut instead of a CF. wenger can use mesut well because that’s the only game wenger knows. Wenger lost the knack of using a proper CF when. TH14 left.

    Also, I think TW14 can deputise to giroud if/when he is injured. But I think all out goals will come from intricate through play rather than crosses etc. but we should see some ball breaking counter attacks this year.

  54. Munitionsman

    Rohan I spend a lot of time in Singapore surrounded by plastic mancs. So yeah, seeing them get moyesed into obscurity would be awesome.

  55. follow the money

    In other news, the son of Jose Anigo (Olympique Marseilles sporting director) was shot dead in Marseilles. RIP

  56. Moray

    It’s late 2000 and Ibrahimovic, 20, meets Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger to discuss a transfer from Malmo.

    What might have been: Ibrahimovic wears an Arsenal shirt but he turned down a trial at Highbury

    I went out to Arsenal’s training facility near St Albans.

    I saw Patrick Vieira, Thierry Henry and Dennis Bergkamp out on the pitch. The really awesome thing was that I was going to meet Arsene Wenger. I felt like a little boy when we stepped into his office.

    I shivered a bit under Wenger’s gaze. It was like he was trying to see through me, or size me up. He’s a man who draws up psychological profiles of his players — are they emotionally stable? That sort of stuff. He is thorough, like all great coaches, and I didn’t say much at first.

    I just sat in silence and was bashful, but after a while I lost my patience. Something about Wenger set me off. He would leap up every so often to check who was outside his window. It seemed as if he wanted to keep an eye on everything, and he kept going on about one thing all the time.

    ‘You can have a trial with us,’ he said. ‘You can give it a try. You can test things out.’ No matter how much I wanted to behave, those words set me off.

    ‘Give me a pair of boots. I’ll have a trial. I’ll do it right now,’ I said. Then Borg (Malmo’s sporting director, Hasse Borg) interrupted me, saying, ‘Stop, stop, we’ll sort this out, you’re not going to have a trial, not at all,’ and of course, I understood what he was getting at: either you’re interested, or you’re not.

    Having a trial puts you in a weak position, so we said no: ‘We’re sorry, Mr Wenger, but we are not interested.’ I’m sure it was the right decision, though.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2412691/Zlatan-Ibrahimovic-Id-die-Jose-Mourinho-Pep-Guardiola-coward.html#ixzz2e597vxOY
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  57. Moray

    Same Story, it’s from his autobiography apparently. Should be a good read.

    In summary he loves Maureen and hates Guardiola.

    Think he’s a bit of a nutter though: I don;t think he would have put up with Wenger’s eccentricities.

  58. ikon

    Zlatan is a super ego… completely opposite to Wenger beliefs on how a player should behave. Had he been available for 20 million, Wenger would still not spend on him now.

  59. sam

    hmmmm, waste of time!
    we missed out on Ibrahimovic and eto’o so what?
    its pathetic to moan over these 2 mercenaries, big spending arsenal can now pick big players and model professional no rebels.
    add Suarez the racist to the list as well and liverpool seem to be doing well I am not sure they will sell in January.
    Time to look elsewhere

  60. sam

    Mercenaries are like whores and mourinho is the biggest madam

    Eto’o once said he will never play for chelsea

    hmmmm! where is he now?
    show her the money and she will show you everything

  61. Jeff

    Maybe there is some mileage in the idea that the bids for Suarez and the acquisition of Ozil weren’t entirely with Wenger’s blessing but happened anyway. I’m not really bothered about that. We have Wenger as manager for now and we have to hope and pray that he has enough left in the tank to take the team a notch or two higher than we’ve been used to in the last 8 years.

  62. Oh Theo Theo!

    Sam – get off your high horse. If your biggest rival to the company you worked for came and offered you double the money to join, you’d join. Basic human nature. You go where the money is.

    I’m a contractor so I understand this better than most. There’s nowhere I wouldn’t work for good money!

  63. Alan

    I think you ll find mourinho s comments were made a couple of years ago when he was manager there, and we all know how he bigs up his own players. And why didn’t he go for ozil, if he thinks he s so great?

  64. gambon

    “If his purchase would have improved Arsenal then how come it won’t improve United? ”

    Erm, you may not have noticed but UTD are a much better team than us!

  65. Honest Bill

    Gambon.

    He only came to Arsenal so he could play alongside players like Bendtner. He just wasn’t getting that at Madrid…

  66. Oh Theo Theo!

    Gambon – I think we are going to see this year just how many points “Fergie Time” was worth to Utd…

    The recent Liverpool game was one that Fergie’s Utd just wouldn’t have lost. Would have “fluked” a last minute goal to draw it.

    Moyes is going to struggle year 1.

  67. Ash79

    LOOOOOOL from the comments section in that Mirror link –

    Stephen Rooney
    9:24 AM on 6/9/2013

    “He can come but will he get in our team giroud is on fire easily the best in epl at moment”

  68. Oh Theo Theo!

    And I don’t know if anybody picked it up yesterday but our EPL match-day squad is only 21 players. Not 25. And includes Park? But none of the youngsters…

    Odd.

  69. kwik fit

    Who knows the penny might just drop with Bendy and he may knuckle down, pull the old proverbial finger out of his rear end and perform some where other than in night clubs.

  70. Phil Wells

    Hi all you Gunners fans
    this is the first time I have written but felt a need to due to all the letters on the state of the squad.
    First of all, how comes so many of you are unhappy with Ollie, as a player he has improved every year, he seems to love the club and fans, and plays with a smile on his face and he scores goals. I appreciate when you compare him to RVP or Henry he’s certainly not reaching their heights yet, however neither did RVP or Henry in the early days of their Arsenal career, and RVP was injured for 50% of the time he was with us.
    Now also remember behind Henry we had Bergkamp and behind RVP we had Fabregas, now Ollie will have Ozil, the next few months could be exhilirating and all you who are saying this and that about Ollie could be eating their words in a just a few weeks time. Also how is he going to feel if he read this blog and saw the negative comments about him after he has improved so much in a short space of time? we are supporters and our first job is to support our players unless your name is Bendtner!

    As for the team itself, yes we still have some problems with the Squad due to injuries, but when all fighting fit we will have a Team that will at last be able to
    qualify for the CL easier than last season and hopefully close the gap on the 3 Teams who finished above us last year.
    I as many on here felt Arsene could have done a lot more this summer, yes it would have been great to have brought a few more bodies in, but when everyone is fit we have a team that can compete with the best in Europe.
    Also the team has at last seemed to have acquired a desire to win games no matter what, winning ugly was always a problem over the last few seasons, but now I think Arsene has solved that problem with the players brought in last year and this summer.

    I as every one else would still like to see a few more World Class players brought to the club over the next two transfer windows, and if Arsene delivers then we should all be getting really excited as we could once again have a team that can win the Premiere League and possibly even the Champions League.