Arsenal go hard for Madrid rejects | Director of Football please…

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No reason to have this as my image. No reason at all.

If something is going to happen, it’s going to happen with Madrid. Arsenal are looking at their financial situation and they smell blood. Madrid are like the millionaires drunk wife who has a shopping addiction… she’s just gone out and smashed £130k on shoes in all the best shops… the only way she’s escaping a call from the bank manager (Platini) is if she shifts some of her old clobber on eBay.

… posh eBay. Which is like Portobello Market online or something.

Thankfully, Arsenal are cash strong this summer. No need for installments, just a straight up injection of reddies. We really have hovered around Madrid like a bad smell for the last three months. Originally we asked them to name their price on Ramos, then we farted around with Higuain who in the end, wasn’t a special target (the male dating equivalent of ‘I never liked her anyway’), now we’re looking at Casilas, Ozil, Di Maria and Benzema. The Dick Law of averages tells you we’ll land one of them… or, it’s just a load of fluff and we’ll land no one.

All the papers have been briefed that we’ll be spending big this week… so lets see it happen. If we do bring in Ozil, Di Maria, Begovic, Cabaye and a defender… we’ll contend trophies dependent on how quickly the team gels. That would constitute a mega summer, just a badly organised one… that is still dependent on a variable (Bale to Madrid).

I'm not inspired to drink Lucozade. Someone get me a fu*king Redbull right away, just to wash the taste of gross marketing out of my mouth

… still, I don’t care how we get there now, I just care that we get there. Sure we didn’t arrive in a Learjet, more like hitch hiking with a horny chicken farmer… but who cares. We can wipe our face and be thankful it wasn’t all in vain. We’ll be there… sitting pretty, with a beautiful thing called a squad.

Interesting reading up on how other clubs around Europe make the most out of the transfer market. Aulas of Lyon has a pretty incredible story. Taking Lyon on as second rate nobodies to one of the elite clubs of Europe. His vision was simple. Buy undervalued players, make them work, then sell them, buying more expensive undervalued players. He also worked to the basic notion of  ‘the more you win, the better the players you can buy’… arguably, over the last ten years he has one of the best records for buying players.

What I found interesting was his take on managers. He believes them merely to be temporary guardians of the club in it for the short term. Something that can’t be said of Arsene Wenger. However, this is where Arsenal and many other clubs are flawed… Aulas doesn’t believe in one divine decision maker at the club. The manager is the middle man. So for transfers, he believes in the power of the crowd. He brings in 6 people to discuss targets. They all have their say, once the decision is final, they all publicly back it.

What a simple, but novel idea. It’s how almost all businesses work. One decision maker is the path to destruction. Because you don’t have a winning streak forever. Power can’t rest with one man. It also means continuity can happen once that one man has gone, because you have an infrastructure on place. Infrastructure is what stops the fear… the fear of change.

The more I think about the director of football role, the more I like it. Spurs bring in Baldini, bang, the most successful summer they’ve ever had. It works for all the major European clubs… bar in England (Where people like Joe Kinnear find a way into power). Why doesn’t it work here? Same reason a lot of things have taken 10 years longer than Europe to put in place…

‘Because it ain’t the way we do fings over here’

Arsenal have had the same back room structure for 16 years, yet football is almost unrecognisable from what it was back then. In normal business you’re lucky if a structure lasts 9 months. You adapt to your market or the requirements of your business. Sure, you can survive without changing, but it’ll only get you so far… then you’ll find yourself overtaken with a massive job on your hands to get back to the top. Look at Microsoft. They let the world pass them by… they’re still a powerhouse… but companies like Google and Apple are way out in front. Their arrogant approach to real innovation stifled them but didn’t kill them.

I fear that’s the way Arsenal are going, even if you take out the player issues we have. Luckily for us, football is slightly easier to recover from in terms of lost ground… providing you have the physical infrastructure and the cash to do it. That’s why, in the words of a Spanish footballer being chased by a great club ‘I am calm about the situation’.

Tonight, I  am also calm. Wenger says he won’t rest any players. I’d suspect that might be the case for the opening 45minutes, but if it’s still 3-0 at half time, you’d have to suspect he’ll take off Cazorla, Ramsey and possibly Rosicky. We need fresh legs for this Sunday’s show down with Spurs, which is a far more interesting topic of conversation than the one we could have about tonight.

Three most important things that can come out of tonight.

1. A clean sheet. Why. I’ll tell you why right now. If we don’t concede, they can’t win.

What’s that? Did Alan Shearer just hack the Le Grove account? Looks like he did…

2. We don’t want any injuries. Not that you ever go into a game asking for them, but I feel if I put it down on paper, they’re less likely to happen.

3. A two goal brace from Giroud and one from Theo would be nice. Just as a confidence boost.

I feel like we need a good win to get the home fans back on track. The last game was nasty. Really not the sort of game you want to be a part of. I know many fans have put that game down as an anomaly, but don’t kid yourselves, if we don’t bolster that squad this week, that won’t be an anomaly. We were ok against Fulham, but as is natural for fans, we tend to take things in the short term instead of remembering what the same squad did to us last year. Hopefully Wenger will look at his stats deck and see we need to make moves and saying things like ‘we only move for the right players’ isn’t going to get him out of jail if the last 7 days bomb worse than Ben Affleck will at Batman.

Right, that’s your lot… a thousand words, you lucky things.

P.S. Notice I haven’t gone after Wenger on the ‘brainwashed’ quote. I’m saving that for another day…

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  1. Cesc Appeal

    I wonder if the summit between America, France and Britain today regarding Syria and Assad ended in them deciding to let Ramsey bang in a brace and hope for good news in the Morning

  2. big jeff

    OhtobeaGooner August 27, 2013 23:04:06
    Get your tongue out big jeff’s arse ozrus
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    you jealous?? wish he was licking your ass? at least now we know you wont be having any children…

  3. AKB Kryptonite

    The chap I was talking to also said a huge amount of the issues behind the scenes are down to the relationship between Wenger and Rowley, as in they’re tight, Rowley’s the confidant that rice used to be for wonga.

    Problem is that everyone hates Rowley. I mean really hates him apparently. To the point where they don’t talk. Apparently bouldy detests him. Youth coaches won’t talk to him. Testosterone fueled hatred and a massive mess.

    He also said that agents hate dealing with wonga and arsenal, he described wonga as out of touch. He likened it to a bloke still living in the London property market of 15 years ago. He looks at a house that was on the market 15 years ago for 500k, that is now being sold for 5m and doesn’t get that values have moved. Same deal with wages.

    And gazidis is attempting to put CL clauses into the contracts, so if we don’t get CL, he wants players to accept a 30% drop in wages. The agents are refusing and players aren’t interested.

    Was a fun afternoon of corporate hospitality!

  4. big jeff

    dialsquare August 27, 2013 22:23:13
    bg jeff

    What Team announces in public a £70m spending budget.
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    agreed. ivan fucked up BIG time. why would you tell the world your wealthy? rich people act poor, poor people act rich…. maybe that’s telling?

  5. vicky

    Ox Injured.

    Poldi Injured.

    Gervinho sold.

    We do not have a left winger now and a shit one at the right side.

    Wing was anyway our the weakest area and now it is absolutely pathetic. Add to this an average striker,we are gonna look so toothless in the final third.

  6. AKB Kryptonite

    Big Jeff – so you reckon we have no money!! Lmfao!

    Check the accounts. We have 150m free cash. Rest of prem combined has 181m

    So we’re a great business, just not so hot on the field these days.

    As 8 years without winning anything does signify

  7. big jeff

    Gunner2301 August 27, 2013 22:44:26
    Big Jeff

    market does not dictate value, market dictates price…. lets get that straight first…

    Tell Wenger that because I don’t think he knows.

    I’m trying to have a conversation with you and you’re coming all over like a condescending prick? Really??????????????????
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    sorry, im a popular guy around here. im trying to keep up.

    now, wenger knows market dictates price. I assure you of that, he however is a man of principal who refuses to budge on his value.

    some would say that is his biggest flaw and there are many flaws he has.

    im not a wenger supporter. im just not an erratic, illogical person.

    we are a decent side who play decent football.

    if we have no chance of winning champions league, then neither do Chelsea or man city. hell, city cant even get out of the group stages. and Chelsea won when they were 5th in the prem. it was a fluke, complete luck. that’s football though isn’t it.

  8. ozrus

    OhtobeaGooner, why so mean? give credit when it’s due. I think he outwitted you in your little exchange. And made you look like a bit of a fucking tool. Aren’t you big enough to accept it?

  9. big jeff

    AKB Kryptonite August 27, 2013 23:13:01
    Big Jeff – so you reckon we have no money!! Lmfao!

    Check the accounts. We have 150m free cash. Rest of prem combined has 181m

    So we’re a great business, just not so hot on the field these days.

    As 8 years without winning anything does signify
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    do you have a link to these accounts? have you seen them yourself?

    and 4 of those 8 years were great, just really unlucky. so don’t act like you’ve been forced to sit through 8 years of shit. its only been 2 years of shit, 2 years of mediocrity an 4 years of actually challenging, just not winning anything

  10. andy1886

    Jeff:

    “I mean, I could do the same with any team. pick all the bad players out. do it with city, Chelsea, man u. they will stack up just as bad”

    Yet they still finish above us. If they stack up just as bad I guess it must be the manager then.

  11. big jeff

    also

    AKB kryptonite.

    where does the 150 come from? where does the 180 come from combined?

    how did man city spend over 100 mil, totenham 60 mil, Chelsea spent 20 mil….

    so how were the other transfers paid for?

    I think your numbers are off.

    if gazidas is throwing around 70 mil, then surely its not more than double that amount….

    why is our debt to income ratio at 30% if we are so cash rich? please explain with logic, not from something you heard from some bloke that knows the guy who cuts the lawn for the friend of the guy who folds the clothes for the players….

  12. AKB Kryptonite

    Big Jeff – don’t be a cock. Go do your own research. Then preach.

    Luck?? Don’t be a twat. No such thing. Tell me what’s unlucky over 38 games?

  13. big jeff

    OhtobeaGooner August 27, 2013 23:17:04
    Outwitted me? Please… that was average..

    You’re on his side cause you’re part of the ‘Lets accept mediocrity team’. All of you must be losers in real life
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    it takes below average thinking to pull one over you. no need to give 100% when 40% will do. thank you very much sir.

  14. andy1886

    Jeff, the accounts are public, we are listed and have to publish them. In fact they appear on the club web site, here is a link for you:

    http://www.arsenal.com/assets/_files/documents/feb_13/gun__1361806248_Arsenal_Holdings_Announcement_.pdf

    If you really believe we don’t have the cash you are deluded. Ivan says so (which he wouldn’t say without Stan’s approval). Even AW has admitted we have serious funds. Do all Arsene’s followers inhabit the same nut house?

  15. ozrus

    OhtobeaGooner, if that was average it obviously doesn’t take much to take you out. A straight knock out in the first round. Don’t let your promoters do a rematch. On the bright side it only makes you a looser online.

  16. big jeff

    AKB Kryptonite August 27, 2013 23:21:57
    Big Jeff – don’t be a cock. Go do your own research. Then preach.

    Luck?? Don’t be a twat. No such thing. Tell me what’s unlucky over 38 games?

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    thank you. exactly my point.

    we finished ABOVE Chelsea that season. so you are correct, over 38 games, we finished 3rd, totenham 4th and Chelsea 5th.

    so going from your logic, and your logic alone, we are better than Chelsea that season. correct??

  17. AKB Kryptonite

    Big Jeff – you get that free cash and spending are separate right??

    And you can pay transfers in installments?

    Check out Swiss ramble. Check out arsenals report and accounts.

    Don’t be a cunt.

  18. big jeff

    AKB Kryptonite August 27, 2013 23:25:44
    Big Jeff – you get that free cash and spending are separate right??

    And you can pay transfers in installments?

    Check out Swiss ramble. Check out arsenals report and accounts.

    Don’t be a cunt.
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    ive read swiss ramble. he reckons something around 120 cash reserves.

    so explain to me how we can compete with wages/fees etc with teams who spend 100 mil on 4 players every single summer?

    the simple answer is we cant. we have to buy 2nd tier players and make them better than they are.

    it really is that simple.

    for further proof, see mata/willian

  19. AKB Kryptonite

    Big Jeff – in the prem, yep we were better. Assume you’re talking season they won CL?

    And your point is?

  20. big jeff

    so, what was lucky about arsenal finishing above Chelsea?

    in fact, I would say it was borderline amazing for a team to spend literally 1/10 of the cash on transfer fees and still finish above them.

    but again, no credit for that.

    and again, another person calling people cunts. my god, thoughtful bunch in here

  21. andy1886

    Jeff, clearly you haven’t followed my advice and read the Swiss Ramble blog. We have in excess of £160m in the bank but some of it is committed, some has to be held in reserve as part of the loan deal, and the total is subject to seasonal variations (for example we have higher funds are season ticket sales are completed). Swiss suggests we have £70-£100m to spend and he knows what he is talking about.

    Also, transfers are not paid 100% up front. We could spend more if we wanted. This figure does not include new sponsorship deals which rumour has it are front loaded (we get a big wedge up front).

    As for our debt ratio well what is effectively a mortgage is considered differently to debt incurred by overspending and anyway this will not impact on our spending as Ivan has already stated.

    We have not spent either because Arsene does not wish to or because we have been incompetent when it comes to sealing deals. No other club seems to have had an issue in adding to their squad have they?

  22. AKB Kryptonite

    Big Jeff – then why not go back to your fellow zealots on untold? You will have the other 5 nutters for company.

  23. Arsene's Nurse

    Arsenal accounts are freely available online. Anyone with a brain can see the bottom line, it’s not hard. We have had significant money to spend for several years now. Only AKB melts have no idea because they have bought into the idea the club is skint.

    Swiss Ramble dissects the accounts and has shown we have money and Gazidis has come out and said it. He can’t do otherwise because Arsenal by law have to publish the accounts. Every club knows we have money. Every player know we have money. We have money, huge amounts of money. £153m last year in the bank which dropped to £123m for the half year. Even if you knock £20m that must be held for stadium payment and £25m CL contingency fund that sill leaves £78m available.

    Our revenue goes up today by £12m property + £30m TV money + £22m new Emirates deal for this season. Get your calculator out. Our revenue will increase by £75m plus next year. £300m plus over the next 4 years. Arsenal are in the top 5 revenue generating clubs in the world.

    Anyone who doesn’t think we have money is ill informed or too ignorant or lazy to find out. It’s a non-argument.

  24. big jeff

    AKB Kryptonite August 27, 2013 23:30:02
    Big Jeff – in the prem, yep we were better. Assume you’re talking season they won CL?

    And your point is?
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    yes, but I said they were lucky to win the champions league. then you came along and started talking about 38 games…. I didn’t derail the topic, you did

    so yes, very lucky in champions league, but the league table never lies.

  25. big jeff

    Arsene’s Nurse August 27, 2013 23:33:48
    Arsenal accounts are freely available online. Anyone with a brain can see the bottom line, it’s not hard. We have had significant money to spend for several years now. Only AKB melts have no idea because they have bought into the idea the club is skint.

    Swiss Ramble dissects the accounts and has shown we have money and Gazidis has come out and said it. He can’t do otherwise because Arsenal by law have to publish the accounts. Every club knows we have money. Every player know we have money. We have money, huge amounts of money. £153m last year in the bank which dropped to £123m for the half year. Even if you knock £20m that must be held for stadium payment and £25m CL contingency fund that sill leaves £78m available.

    Our revenue goes up today by £12m property + £30m TV money + £22m new Emirates deal for this season. Get your calculator out. Our revenue will increase by £75m plus next year. £300m plus over the next 4 years. Arsenal are in the top 5 revenue generating clubs in the world.

    Anyone who doesn’t think we have money is ill informed or too ignorant or lazy to find out. It’s a non-argument.
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    we have money compared to 99% of all teams…

    but we have no money compared to the 5 teams who are taking all the top players.

    what is 300 mil over 4 years to someone who puts in 1 billion into a squad in the past 5 years?

    what is so hard to understand about that?

  26. OhtobeaGooner

    Lmao. Ozrus, you’re hilarious. You conveniently side stepped what I said about you brown nosing bigg jeff because you guys have the same views. big jeff is an emotional cunt who cannot engage in a simple argument about football without hurling insults. You’re brown nosing him.. what does that make you?

    Again. You and big jeff are LOSERS in real life.

  27. N5

    Jesus Christ guys, Jeff has a different opinion to you and is always polite in his replies why constantly resort to calling him a cunt! some of you really need to grow up and ask yourself what kind of person resorts to name calling because they’re not getting their way..I’ll answer that for you, it’s children. Regardless of my opinion on what Jeff writes I’m always impressed by his commitment and polite response regardless of how insulting you lot are being! grow up and converse with the guy politely or bore off and argue with some other spack on here that wants to sit name calling!

  28. big jeff

    are you telling me falcao went to Monaco for all the trophies theyre going to win?

    its really not rocket science.

    we cant compete with barca, real, Chelsea, city, PSG and to an extent, some of the Russian clubs. also Bayern, due to their history and pick of the entire bundesliga

    so what player should we have bought that didn’t go to those teams listed above?

    I cant think of many.

  29. AKB Kryptonite

    Big Jeff – so your whole point is we were better than Chelsea in a year that we won nothing? Yep, that’s devastating.

    Falcao had 3rd party ownership and had no choice.

    We

  30. big jeff

    OhtobeaGooner August 27, 2013 23:37:13
    Lmao. Ozrus, you’re hilarious. You conveniently side stepped what I said about you brown nosing bigg jeff because you guys have the same views. big jeff is an emotional cunt who cannot engage in a simple argument about football without hurling insults. You’re brown nosing him.. what does that make you?

    Again. You and big jeff are LOSERS in real life.
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    I make at least 10k/month and upwards of 15-20k if I get a decent commission. im far from a loser in real life…. and im only 30…..

    losers go onto a fan site for a team they support, hoping they lose so some millionaire they will never meet gets fired.

  31. Arsene's Nurse

    Big Jess – you are a moron. We can buy £150m worth of players today. Yep, £150m worth. Do you think that all deals are done with suitcases full of cash? All teams buy a player and spread the cost over more than one year.

    Arsenal are owed something like £31m for players we’ve sold. Likewise we owe around £30m for players we’ve bought.

    We could buy the players now and spread that £150m over 2-3 years so our actual cash reserve actually goes further.

  32. big jeff

    AKB Kryptonite August 27, 2013 23:40:40
    Big Jeff – so your whole point is we were better than Chelsea in a year that we won nothing? Yep, that’s devastating.

    Falcao had 3rd party ownership and had no choice.
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    pretty much…

    you are saying we have 150 mil to spend. but Chelsea have spent that the year before we finished above them.

    get the picture now? spending that 150 mil doesn’t mean we are going to win anything.

    150 mil is just a normal transfer window for Chelsea or city. so if we go out and spend 150, they will spend 300. yet will will both get the same players whether we spend 70 mil, or 150 mil….

    if ozil costs 40 mil, and Chelsea want him. then they will pay 80, and we will get cabaye for 40 mil.

  33. andy1886

    Here are some comments from Swiss’ blog of August 12th:

    “As at the end of the 2011/12 season (the latest year when football clubs have published their accounts), Arsenal had an incredible £154 million of cash, which is significantly higher than any of their competitors with Manchester United the closest with £71 million (less than half the Gunners’ cash pile).”

    and

    “So, what is the magic figure Arsenal have as a transfer fund? Given all of the variables described above, it’s safest to quote David Bowie, “It ain’t easy”, when trying to pin this down, but the oft-quoted £70 million is a reasonable estimate. If funds from property development and future commercial deals are also made available, then it could be as high as £100 million.”

    If AW is trying to improve the club’s financial position maybe he is misguided:

    “Regardless of how that account has been used, Arsenal’s cautious approach has cost them money. The TV distribution in the Premier League is relatively egalitarian with each place only worth an additional £0.8 million, but there is a significant upside in the Champions League, best seen in the 2011/12 season when Arsenal received €28 million for reaching the last 16, while Chelsea earned €60m for winning the competition.”

    and

    “In addition, a relative lack of success on the pitch cannot have helped Arsenal’s commercial team when they have tried to secure new deals. We already know that the new shirt sponsorship deal contains a number of clauses relating to performance, e.g. if Arsenal were to fail to qualify for the Champions League, the £150 million headline figure (over five years) would be somewhat less.”

    So there you have it, Arsene’s policy has essentially been detrimental on both the playing and business side. A few more years of mediocrity and the sponsors will be looking to invest elsewhere.

    P.S. If Sanogo is ever a £50m player I will eat my own genitals. Ta.

  34. big jeff

    Arsene’s Nurse August 27, 2013 23:41:59
    Big Jess – you are a moron. We can buy £150m worth of players today. Yep, £150m worth. Do you think that all deals are done with suitcases full of cash? All teams buy a player and spread the cost over more than one year.

    Arsenal are owed something like £31m for players we’ve sold. Likewise we owe around £30m for players we’ve bought.
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    so what youre saying is we have made 1 mil on players we have not paid or collected on….

    do you see how that works? you cant float 150 mil over 3 years without having that 150 coming in to pay for it.

    also, if we are cash rich, then in business, when you pay cash, the price is usually cheaper too correct?

  35. Arsene's Nurse

    Chelsea lost their manager that season they fell out the top 4 but won the CL. Abromovich had to spend big just as Man City have done in order to establish the club and the brand. They actually made a profit last year.

    There is no point in raking in cash from a new stadium and sponsorship deals if it’s not going to be used to compete.

    If we aren’t going to bother then pay the money to extend the stadium to 80k and pay the council the money to upgrade the tube station so more people can watch and then reduce ticket prices.

    Football is a sport and there’s no place for a manager or a club who refuse to use all the resource available to win.

  36. arsenal-flavour

    bigg jeff

    You were calling me a child the otherday.. hahah

    Your 30 and you act like your 13 I’ve tried being nice with you but all you want to do is abuse people and be rude to them,

    before you come on this site people disagree there are sometimes arguments but most people are respectful of others opinions but as soon as you pop up the quality of debate goes right down the shitter..

    All you do is hurl childish insults, your over emotional and your a control freak if someone disagrees with you you just can’t accept instead you attack the character who has posted it.

    Learn to talk to people like a human being and an adult not some sort of Animal

  37. OhtobeaGooner

    big jeff.

    Haha! Of course the ‘I make so sand so amount of money’ or ‘I’m 6’5’ comments were going to be next. I applaud you for not saying it earlier. For the record, I have never said I want us to lose? I’m not one of those guys so you should be directing that comment at someone else.

    Can you honestly say Arsene Wenger is doing his best to make us compete? Be objective. Don’t be an emotional cunt. Its unbecoming for a man.

  38. big jeff

    arsenal-flavour August 27, 2013 23:45:48
    big jeff

    I make at least 10k/month and upwards of 15-20k if I get a decent commission. im far from a loser in real life…. and im only 30…..

    LOL
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    its true mate. I have a great job. check out real estate in so cal right now. you will see its up 20% over the past 3 months.

    theres a reason I respect arsenal for the way they handle themselves. I love football as much as I love business.

  39. DaveB666

    Big Jeff

    Appreciate your comments regarding Chelskis position in the league compared to ours and agree that some of the abuse you are getting is frankly uncalled for…

    BUT – and this is a f**king huge BUT

    Chelsea won the Champions League – beating Barca & Bayern on the way.

    We havent won anything except Wenger’s 4th place trophy for 8 years – 16 years in the top European competition with one final achieved.

    For a club of our stature and financial clout this just isnt good enough however you look at it.

    Cheers

    Dave

  40. arsenal-flavour

    N5

    I normally agree with you but Big jeff is incredible rude and hostile whenever I am on the blog his first comment of the day always includes a referee to how people are morons or jerks before anyones even said anything.

    I get being a passionate fan but his far to over emotional.
    People shouldn’t call him a cunt but I often call him out on his abusive words if he spoke to the average guy in the pub like that he would get laid out.

  41. big jeff

    OhtobeaGooner August 27, 2013 23:52:10
    big jeff.

    Haha! Of course the ‘I make so sand so amount of money’ or ‘I’m 6’5′ comments were going to be next. I applaud you for not saying it earlier. For the record, I have never said I want us to lose? I’m not one of those guys so you should be directing that comment at someone else.

    Can you honestly say Arsene Wenger is doing his best to make us compete? Be objective. Don’t be an emotional cunt. Its unbecoming for a man.
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    is aresne doing his best? im 100% sure he is doing his best.

    is his best good enough? I will reserve judgment until the end of the season…

    and im only 6’2″…

  42. AKB Kryptonite

    Big Jeff – still flogging the dead unicorn (mythical beast) that is our lack of cash?

    Admirable clinging to a point of view in the face of a huge quantity of contrary factual information.

    Definition of a zealot!

  43. big jeff

    arsenal-flavour August 27, 2013 23:54:25
    N5

    I normally agree with you but Big jeff is incredible rude and hostile whenever I am on the blog his first comment of the day always includes a referee to how people are morons or jerks before anyones even said anything.

    I get being a passionate fan but his far to over emotional.
    People shouldn’t call him a cunt but I often call him out on his abusive words if he spoke to the average guy in the pub like that he would get laid out.
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    youre just upset that I called you a child cuz youre only 23… get over it…

    ive never called anyone anything without being called something first.

  44. big jeff

    paul mc daid August 27, 2013 23:57:08
    40 years following the Arsenal, Never felt this low after winning three in a row.
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    then what did you do when we were finishing 12th?

  45. arsenal-flavour

    bigg jeff

    Good for honestly but please stop abusive comments to people everyone is allowed an opinion as any american surely you understand the right to free speech?

    I don’t like how you treat people on this blog.

    The other for instance you were incredible rude to me calling me a child maybe in America young men are spoilt children but In the rough parts of London its a completely different story…. You attack people and presume there morons yet you have never met them in real life..

  46. andy1886

    “also, if we are cash rich, then in business, when you pay cash, the price is usually cheaper too correct?”

    Err, not necessarily. Sellers know we can pay more so they ask for more. Players can ask for higher salaries, agents for bigger fees.

    It also depends on the competance of those negotiating on our behalf, which by any measure isn’t something that has been demonstrated recently.

    Then we are handicapped by the valuation that AW puts on players (it’s like your grandad explaining how he used to go out for the night, drink 20 pints, have a fish and chip supper and still have change from a ha’penny so he’s not spending a whole pound on a bloody sandwich).

  47. arsenal-flavour

    bigg jeff

    the fact is your the one who needs to get over it…

    you go on this blog everyday screaming at people and venting your rage..

    Its pathetic man come on your better than that, I feel for you buddy obviously your not fully happy in your life 🙁

  48. big jeff

    AKB Kryptonite August 27, 2013 23:55:59
    Big Jeff – still flogging the dead unicorn (mythical beast) that is our lack of cash?

    Admirable clinging to a point of view in the face of a huge quantity of contrary factual information.

    Definition of a zealot!
    ——————————–

    im not clinging on to anything that isn’t true.

    Chelsea have spent over 1 billion, so have man city.

    what is 150 mil compared to 1 billion? ill tell you, its 1/8

    which means we need to spend 150 every summer for 8 years, while they spend 0 just to catch up

  49. salparadisenyc

    “I make at least 10k/month and upwards of 15-20k if I get a decent commission. im far from a loser in real life…. and im only 30…..”

    BJ
    Go buy some class, you don’t seem to have any.

  50. big jeff

    arsenal-flavour August 27, 2013 23:59:27
    bigg jeff

    the fact is your the one who needs to get over it…

    you go on this blog everyday screaming at people and venting your rage..

    Its pathetic man come on your better than that, I feel for you buddy obviously your not fully happy in your life 🙁
    ————————————————-

    wheres my rage? am I calling everyone cunts?

    I think you will find the complete opposite. im happy just watching a great football game.

    just because you say something, doesn’t make it true.

    this is entertaining. im not mad at all.

  51. big jeff

    salparadisenyc August 28, 2013 00:01:01
    “I make at least 10k/month and upwards of 15-20k if I get a decent commission. im far from a loser in real life…. and im only 30…..”

    BJ
    Go buy some class, you don’t seem to have any.
    ———————————————————

    do you know how much it is? where do I go to purchase said class?

  52. Kiyoshi Ito

    AKB KryptoniteAugust 27, 2013 22:29:05
    Heard a great story today. Apparently willian to spuds was a done deal. He had the medical, all fine. Levy calls the mad Russian in charge of anzhi and says ‘we’ve had him in, and he’s passed the medical. Thing is we don’t think he’s worth 32m. We want him for 25. That work for you?’.Russian dude tells him to fuck off, hits speed dial to ambramovich and says ‘been fucked over by levy, do you want him?’Ambramovich says yes on the spot. Maureen had no idea, players agent had no idea!!Levy went mental. Bit too clever by half.

    —————————

    Quite a funny story there..AKB KRYPTONITE…

    Very interesting tale..

    Got anymore inside track info from your friend..??

    PS
    Got a feeling this big jeff,is Keyser in disguise..?

    PPS
    Anyway night all!!

  53. AKB Kryptonite

    AF – he’s a troll. AKBs crawl out of the woodwork to crow over beating Fulham and pub team fenebache.

    Let’s where he is after were out of all competitions in Feb.

    Parading the ‘we lost one game in6 months trophy’, yep special.

  54. Arsene's Nurse

    big jeff August 27, 2013 23:49:12

    Arsene’s Nurse August 27, 2013 23:41:59
    so what youre saying is we have made 1 mil on players we have not paid or collected on….

    do you see how that works? you cant float 150 mil over 3 years without having that 150 coming in to pay for it.

    also, if we are cash rich, then in business, when you pay cash, the price is usually cheaper too correct?
    —————————————————————————————————–
    You obviously don’t understand finance. I am NOT saying we have made 1m on players we have not collected on.

    All I’m doing is pointing out that clubs pay transfer fees over a period of time.

    Here is the exact line from SR.

    “The amount of cash available is also influenced by outstanding transfer fees, though this is not a major issue for Arsenal at the moment: in the Interims Arsenal owed other clubs £31.6 million, but were in turn owed £31.4 million by other clubs, so this basically netted out.”

    What this means is there is no nasty shock as far as the balance for transfers is concerned. It simply has no bearing on our cash flow or balance sheet and therefore transfer money because the net balance is close to zero.

    What’s more we do have the £150m coming in to pay for it. Have you woken up from a 10 year sleep? Do you even follow Arsenal? Because if you did follow us you’d know that we are guaranteed an extra £75m plus over what we generate now for the next 4 years.

    I guess you’ve never bought a house or a car or used a credit card. Same principle applies; the bank will loan you the money for a house based on what you are going to earn not what you earned 5 years ago.

    There’s no guarantee that you won’t break your neck and end up a vegetable and not be able to pay the mortgage for the next 25 years, however, Arsenal are guaranteed the money over the next 4 years because they have signed the new improved deals and we are not going to get relegated so the extra £30m a year TV money is nailed on.

    We have no worry about spending money.

    Football is a completely different beast to normal business. That is one of the reasons Wenger fails. He doesn’t realise that money in football is ever growing. He expected a crash. It didn’t happen.

    Football is not going to go through a recession like Europe. Read the following

    http://www.deloitte.com/assets/Dcom-UnitedKingdom/Local%20Assets/Documents/Industries/Sports%20Business%20Group/deloitte-uk-sbg-arff-2013-highlights-download.pdf

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/9822186/Deloitte-Money-League-Premier-League-will-continue-to-dominate.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/banksandfinance/10102605/Premier-League-revenues-to-top-3bn-despite-rise-in-footballers-wages.html

  55. arsenal-flavour

    bigg Jeff

    It’s cool dude, It’s cool let it go, the rage will destroy you… You think its your power when its your downfall it clouds your judgement and distracts you from the absolute realities.

    I know a great deal about psychology I can tell when someone isn’t all right if you need to talk just say man, as a fellow Arsenal fan I am here for you!

  56. AKB Kryptonite

    Kiyoshi did post some other stuff about Wenger and gazidis trying to get players to agree 30% reductions in wages if we miss CL.

    So gazidis not confident of 4th this year! Lol

  57. andy1886

    Jeff:

    “then what did you do when we were finishing 12th?”

    I was thinking at least we had won the CWC, and were in the final again that year. Also that we had won three cups in the last two seasons (FAC, LC, CWC). If I thought further I would recall we won the league 4 seasons ago and had won it twice in the last 6 seasons.

    Now I recall we won the FA Cup in 2005 (over eight years ago, and we didn’t deserve that, we were crap). The last league win will be a decade ago in the summer.

    So, finishing 12th wasn’t such a big deal.

  58. big jeff

    arsenal-flavour August 28, 2013 00:07:04
    bigg Jeff

    It’s cool dude, It’s cool let it go, the rage will destroy you… You think its your power when its your downfall it clouds your judgement and distracts you from the absolute realities.

    I know a great deal about psychology I can tell when someone isn’t all right if you need to talk just say man, as a fellow Arsenal fan I am here for you!
    ————————————————————————————-

    as a psychology expert…. you would know that your 23 year old brain is not finished developing then… correct?

  59. slade

    “do you have a link to these accounts? have you seen them yourself?
    and 4 of those 8 years were great, just really unlucky. so don’t act like you’ve been forced to sit through 8 years of shit. its only been 2 years of shit, 2 years of mediocrity an 4 years of actually challenging, just not winning anything”
    ..so you require proof (“have you seen them yourself”) for others to butress their opinion, yet you simply state an opinion (“its only been 2 years of shit…”) and demand its acceptance as fact without proof to butress your own opinion. I would think a successful 30 year old on 10-20k a month -you are a stallion, by the way-would spot the arrogance of your statements.

  60. big jeff

    paul mc daid August 28, 2013 00:09:40
    Big Jeff, you have a Big Mouth.
    ———————————–

    and a similarly sized brain… its a great combination to have.

  61. AKB Kryptonite

    Give me a C.
    Give me a U
    Give me an N
    Give me a T

    What have you got…..?

    Biiiiig Jeeeeff.

    Go big Jeff go!

    Americanised it for you. Imagine cheerleaders. Pompoms. Twirling. Clapping.

  62. big jeff

    OhtobeaGooner August 28, 2013 00:11:05
    big jeff is American? Everything makes sense now.

    and youre a bigot too. let your true colors show!!!!

  63. andy1886

    By the way Jeff we finished 12th in 94-95 when you would have been about 12 (as you are apparently 30 now). Having been a supporter for around 25 years at that point (and about the age you are now) I knew by then that I would rather have the odd poor season if we won something now and then. That’s much preferable to year on year of mediocrity.

  64. Dannyboy

    What was also funny about the thick commentators during the game, one of them took the piss out of the other regarding him constantly calling Jenkinson ‘Wilkinson’ and when he absolutely ballooned a shot about 50 yards over the bar, the guy said to the other ‘you keep calling him Wilkinson, I bet Jonny Wilkinson would be proud of that one!!’

    And the dumb jock said ‘aye’ and carried on calling him Wilkinson anyway! 😀

  65. OhtobeaGooner

    Call me a bigot if you want big jeff, I know I’m not a bigot so I don’t give a fuck what you say. Your’e a CUNT. An emotional one at that.

    LMAO @ AKB Kryptonite’s comment. Thats it big jeff.. its a wrap.. you have been killed. Go earn your 10k a month. PRICK

  66. 329gooner

    It’s probably already been mentioned but Pedro has been quoting the book “Soccernomics” in his past couple of posts (for those who’ve read it; think Freakanomics but about football) keep reading dude, it’s good!

  67. dialsquare

    We do know that Wenger has a huge transfer sum at his disposal as the accounts show cash reserves of £154m. While not all of it can be used for transfers, a massive amount of it can. There’s no logical reason for that sum of money to remain completely untouched – none of it can be used to service debt. If Wenger doesn’t feel he is being given the resources he requires to do his job then he should leave – like any right-minded manager would. The fact he doesn’t is because he’s party to the whole sorry mess.

  68. arsenal-flavour

    bigg jeff

    Immature snide mark.. When I was offering you help.

    Bigg jeff you act like a little man…

    I hope your a troll because If your a real person I feel sorry for the people who have to suffer your company.

    Lets leave it there adidos

  69. Kiyoshi Ito

    AKB KryptoniteAugust 28, 2013 00:07:36
    Kiyoshi did post some other stuff about Wenger and gazidis trying to get players to agree 30% reductions in wages if we miss CL.So gazidis not confident of 4th this year! Lol
    ————————-

    Yeah,saw that also..I’m not altogether surprised,about the 30% reduction in wages..That’s been on the cards for sometime..

    I recall Gazidis,saying almost 2 years ago,how they had budgeted for possibly finishing in 5th place..

    So,the natural chain of reaction,would be to revise player’s contract downwards,in anticipation of falling out of top 4..

    Just makes a mockery of “We try to compete for trophies” b/s statement every year & more so Gazidis crowing from the rooftops this summer,about the “Escalation in Financial Power”..

    The whole machinations at Arsene FC is just a joke..

    Anyway night mate..

    Enjoyed your tales from within,a nice send off..

    Look forward too many more,in the future..!!

  70. BacaryisGod

    I do feel bad for some of you on here as I think your anger is preventing you from enjoying victories. I’m actually predicting a draw on Sunday vs. Spurs,although a hat-trick of 5-2 wins would be legendary.

    As for new faces, I agree that the most likely additions will be 2 CMs (Cabaye, Flamini) and a pure winger/wide midfielder. Take your pick from Di Maria, Ozil and Mata. Giroud will lead the line and Poldi will back him up. Whatever weaknesses he has, Giroud is still a quality striker. I hope we’re looking for a #1 keeper and not a #3, but these additions will give us 5 new faces.

    The one wild card would be Rooney, but I just don’t see it happening.

  71. Dannyboy

    Also, anyone who is following the transfer betting market, Juan Mata is quite ridiculously 2/1 to move to Arsenal now… Crazy stuff! Especially when you can get 10/1 on Cesc coming back, which is a lot more likely than Chelsea selling us Mata!

  72. ozrus

    arsenal-flavour, I think you might be blinded by the ‘child’ comments. Where’s the rage and abuse you are talking about? Considering the guy has been called a cunt, a moron, a loser etc etc, he’s remarkably collected and responds without any hysteria (and types damn fast too!).

  73. Sam

    When asked about transfers when looked shocked he didn’t have a straight answer I am not sure we are closed to sign anyone

    And time is running out

  74. Honest Bill

    I don’t get it. Why would Mata be on the market? Is he not enjoying life at Chelsea? Mourinho has to know he’s one of the best players in the league. No way he’d want to sell him.

    I wonder what’s happened there.

  75. The Hig

    To be honest, we look better than Chelsea and United did on Monday. Just need like 5 players to mount a challenge. If we don’t buy anyone, well, i’ll still support The Arsenal cos they playing well despite all the negativity.

  76. Hunter

    There’s no way we get Ozil apparently he wants £200 grand a week and there’s no way WENGER will pay that much……BUT UTD might,so we can forget that one!

  77. andy1886

    If AW does sign Flamini it will be interesting to see if he has learnt his lesson regards wages. Any more then £30k p.w. for a bit-part has-been would show that he hasn’t. If that’s not good enough then he can go hawk himself around Palace and Hull like all the other rejects.

  78. Gunnershabz

    Kongdobia is leaving Sevilla with Monaco looking to sign him I just hope we being secretive and signing him because we need him more then cabaye

  79. andy1886

    If AW fails to sign a quality striker before the window closes that should be a sackable offence (to add to a number of others).

    OG had a poor night, he’s okay if we’re aiming for 4th again but not good enough for a side challenging for trophies. Sanogo? He’s tall, errrr…. that’s about it. He was pretty awful last night, no first touch at all and looked completely lost. I found myself wondering if he really was a professional footballer at times.

    Good to see talk of a new contract for Wenger has dried up, or maybe they’re waiting until the window closes to hit us with that little gem.

  80. Oh Theo Theo!

    Andy – you couldn’t make it up. Our ‘big’summer = a crocked French striker with the first touch of a tractor and wonky hamstrings and a 32 yr old ex-player whose legs will have gone who screwed us over to leave. Both Free!

    £150m sat in the bank and we’re shopping in Aldi’s and even then in the close to sell by date reduced bin.

    Mental. He has, what 6 days of the window left, including today to save the season. Defo not a top top qualidee manager any more…

  81. Gregg

    So now Mata is back into the equation as his father was allegedly a guest at yesterdays game. New day, new name. Running out of players for Sunday though.

  82. Gunnershabz

    Apparently galatasaray bid for angel di Maria and had a deal agreed so the stories are true

    Come wenger just snap him up what you waiting for

  83. TheBayingMob

    AW:
    “I have heard like you, because I watched the game last night, that Juan Mata could be on the market. I don’t know… there is anyway a reluctance in England to sell to each other.”

    Unless of course it’s Arsenal selling to United, City or Chelsea … What an utter, utter cunt …

  84. TheBayingMob

    Oh Theo Theo! August 28, 2013 08:25:31
    £150m sat in the bank and we’re shopping in Aldi’s and even then in the close to sell by date reduced bin.
    ————
    A guy I work with shops in Aldi. He’s in his 60’s now and has worked for a good US corp (based in the UK) for many years. He earns great money. Has multiple property interests which he earns good money from and will get a near enough final-salary pension when he chooses to go in the next year or to. He’s quite overweight and I would expect the amount of quiality he’ll get in his life post retirement will be, what, a couple of years?

    All that work, all that knowledge, all those hours, all that property. Shopping in Aldi so he can buy a tin of beans for 9p. He’ll take it all to the grave with him (or more likely his kids will get it).

    Point is, some people are just like that. He doesn’t have to. This guy could have driven Ferrari’s if he wanted. Had mental holidays to exclusive Islands. He didn’t. A different era, a different mentality. Just like Wonga. I couldn’t make this guy start shopping in M&S and Waitrose for his food, it just doesn’t work like that.

    Wonga is out of date, and I’m likely to give credance to the stories that the ship is a mess underneath the Emirates verneer. We need an overhaul, transparancy and accoutnability. We’ll (likely) never compete with PSG’s, Monaco’s or City’s billyyyyons, but we can be better. Much better. i’ve had enough of the Wonga years, time to move on regardless.

  85. The Hig

    To me, Sanogo is a youngster and this being his first outing in CL I understand his nerves. He did well for the 2nd goal. He was a bit weak in challenges but once he gets comfortable he will be a great player for us. Got into good positions twice or so, he’s still raw. But talented.

  86. The Hig

    Didn’t Jose say he’ll sell to a rival? That’s class. To me, this “selling to a rival shows Arsenal’s incompetence” is bullshit. So, in order to better your chances and weaken your rivals, you don’t sell to them? How competitive is that? You cannot have a competitive team to be proud of and complain that Wenger sells to rivals. Only a competitive Manager sure of his competence will sell to ANYBODY if he wants to sell a player.

  87. Pistol Pete

    Where is the qualiteeeeeeeeeeeee wenger. He said we must buy players that are better than what we got. CANT WAIT TO SEE WHAT HE IS GOING TO BUY. got a really bad feeling that there is going to be some bad demonstrations to get wenger and the board out. Hope so. Still giving him the benefit of the doubt until, the window closes, if i can hang on that long!!

  88. Pistol Pete

    Loads of cash to spend, Three months the buy, what do with have with 4 days to go. 2 free. What a joke!!!!! No pies , no pints , no Programmes!1

  89. Pistol Pete

    Time to bring in the Russian Arsenal supporter so we can compete. Get rid of that mute American now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!