Cesc now has a £25m release clause | Would you take Flamini back? | Suarez for £37m… hmmm

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It’s like a transfer hand grenade has gone off in the press and now we’re linked to everyone.

Hey, if no one reads my post today, at least I know the CIA will pick up on it!

So what have we on the plate of excitement this morning? Well, we have Flamini who is a free agent after a fruitless time in Milan. He’s 29 years old and currently parading himself around Europe’s top clubs in an ill fitting crop top desperately trying to attract some attention. I know people have this auto-hate function when someone leaves us, but I’d have him back. On a free, that’d work perfectly. I mean come on, given the choice over Gareth Barry, surely you’d take the player 3 years the junior? Remember, we’re looking at building a squad, we know he can play in the league and we know he can play Arsene football.

Hi Arsene, the names Matty, Matty Flamini... sign me

Arguably, he was part of the best midfield post Highbury. Rosicky, Cesc, Flamini and Hleb… boy did those guys know the short passing game… you only appreciate great midfield quartets once they’re gone.

Give me a minute…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It’s not a tear, I’ve just got something in my eye…

 

 

 

 

 

… back in the game.

Talking of Cesc, the Mail have dropped the bomb shell that Cesc has a £25m buyout clause if it’s Arsenal doing the buying. Now, I don’t know whether this is fresh news or the Mail trying to maintain their position as the most clicked website in the universe. Either way, I’m talking about it because I still think there’s an outside chance he could land himself a move to Arsenal this summer. I know with Thiago potentially agreeing a move to PSG, that seems unlikely, but I’m going to keep banging the drum of hope until someone listens. I think if Cesc tells Barca he wants out, they’ll let him go. I don’t think they rate him as highly as Arsenal do… clearly. Still, let’s watch the summer pan out… my hope of us getting things done early seem to ebbing away more and more each day. Which is obviously a huge worry… but as long as we maintain the same vigour we’ve shown so far, I’m sure we’ll end the summer on a high note.

The Suarez deal has kicked up a level, obviously Goal.com are straight in saying we’ve gone to €40m… amazing how the talks have been going on for a month, now it’s dropped they’re straight on it like they handed the exclusive. I have my doubts over us going mega high. We’re not going to push that deal through quickly unless it’s closer to €30m. Especially as we’re buying a product we can’t touch until October. Still, very exciting we’re in for a player I’d said we should be pushing for earlier in the season. I know he’s a nutter, but Paddy V wasn’t exactly Theo Walcott. I think we forget that Liverpool are a terribly average side these days… players have stopped caring about what they once were… you need Champions League football to matter these days.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens with The Hig… if we go for two expensive strikers, that would rule us out of a Fellaini.

The Nik B saga is over as he moves over to Germany, not Spain. I know I labour this point, but I’m sure Malaga offered him more cash… but what’s more important, 1 year of salary, then uncertain… Or 4 years guaranteed? I did read La Liga are moving to collective TV rights next time around to save the league. Sadly, the damage is done in the short term. It’ll take a while for those smaller clubs to return to profit… only the can the league start to compete.

Good times for the Premier League… we were irresponsible, we were unsustained and we spent like there was no tomorrow… but importantly, we shared the glory in the grotesque circus were put on.

That’s a sweet story right there… brings a money drenched tear to my eye.

Final snippet of the day is around the ‘Arsene dithering’ story. The slow deals don’t have anything to do with dithering, more to do with the fact we’re going after players their clubs don’t want to sell. The bigger question for me is why we’re not tying up deals for squad players. I’m guessing the club are prioritising a striker… I hope Arsene knows one player isn’t the difference between 4th and 1st.

Anyway, more from Geoff tomorrow. Keep it real people, and don’t shed any tears… those players just aren’t worth it.

P.S. I’ll get the mailing list sorted later. I lost my wallet the other day. All my cards. Massive ball ache. It’s cancelled all my stuff.

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  1. TH

    The Cesc thing seems the silliest ITK blogger in-joke of the summer really.

    Xavi is 33, they are essentially being forced to sell Thiago, Cesc is 2 years back at his dream club and playing and scoring regularly.

    Move makes sense for Arsenal, and no sense at all for Barca. And they hold every single card in the eyes of anyone but the most blinkered Arsenal fan.

  2. pinkz

    Flamini showed he can play that depp role very well. Mobile, strong in the tackle and alot quicker than Arteta. Hes a free and building a squad is what we need.m

  3. Joe

    There’s a lot of dithering going on. Arsene’s always like this. Remember summer 2011 when we had nobody signed until 31st August? All down to AW’s indecision and inflexibility on valuations. We’ve got the money to wrap these deals up, but Wenger can’t being himself to pay over the odds so changes target. Happens every year.

  4. Kane

    So to summarize.. Arsenal have been linked to some players, no one knows for sure if the deals will happen and the rest is speculation and bullshit.

  5. Willie

    Cesc, Hleb, Rosicky, and Flamini. Pure nostalgia. What would have been? I realize I didn’t appreciate them as much that time. I think they averaged same age or younger than Arteta, Cazorla, Ramsey, and Wilshere, but the latter group got nothing on them.
    ION, we still have sanogo as our summer business so far. So much for getting signings done early. I’ll be full-range dooming if we hit August w/o a signing. Wenger’s rather good at that.

  6. Gregg

    Flamini would be an excellent addition to the squad, though in fairness I haven’t seen much of him in last few years. If he still has the same ‘industry’ then snap him up, especially if we have to wait another year for Bedner. In that instance it makes sense and I can see some mileage to that one.

    I know Tim Payton, the so called Arsenal Exec’s & co on twitter all trying to preach patience and stuff but actions speak louder than words. There is naturally going to be many that will see it as yet another summer of hollow empty promises, another false dawn. Announcing one signing will lift the mood & for the life of me I cannot understand why we’re not close to finalising at least one of these so called targets. It makes no sense at all.

  7. Romford Pele

    Arsenalone,

    He’s just not very good. Physically he’s declined a lot, his passing is shoddy and he’s become increasingly injury-prone. You need to ask yourself; if he was still good, why are Milan letting him go for a free? This isn’t exactly a team blessed with great midfielders either.

  8. Dan

    Last time I saw Flamini was when he ‘did’ Corluka and had Harry crying. Great tackle.
    Id take him back as squad player no doubt. Quick, mobile, runs all day and gives the ball easy to players who can play. Has that fire in him that you can’t teach and doesn’t mind putting the boot in when needed

  9. Zoran

    Flamini back?

    Aparently, until now no club in Europe wants him, I cannot see the reason why we should take him?
    Flamini of five years ago, no problem, anytime I would take him.
    But he thought elsewhere the pastures are greener than at Emirates, so he should look further. A part of that, he left on Bosman, we didn’t get anythink what we invested in him.
    I think AW should concentrate on Felaini, younger, and in any aspect better player.

  10. Dan

    Joe

    Did you even read the post? Yes this has happened before where we have dithered but since when have we actually gone after players of this calibre? Its been a long time. Not since Campbell we’ve gone for a player in their prime and in demand.

    Going after top players that clubs dont want to sell will be harder to come to an agreement with especially when you’re dealing with top teams that aren’t desperate for cash.

  11. Gregg

    I heard Milan have offered him a 2 year extension.
    As for Fellaini, please guys accept that this simply is not going to happen.

  12. Aussie Jack

    Like the picture of Matty. Sweetheart, if you`re on a free transfer Arsene won`t be able to resist you. lol

  13. Bennydevito

    Flamini? No thanks. Better than Gareth Barry,,agreed but would mean no Fellaini who I really want. However, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if our 3 major signings were Sonago, Barry & Flamini…

    I would just cry! I must admit though the longer this drags on the less confident I am of these promised big signings.

  14. nuudles

    With Barca getting Neymar I think they will pick one of Pedro & Sanchez to play on the other wing with Messi obviously in the middle. Iniesta used to get a lot of starts as a left winger. With Neymar there I think he will move centrally, possibly further threatening Cesc’s number of starts. I think Cesc played enough for him to stay, the question is will he still play as much in the next 2 or so years?

    With Iniesta and Busquets basically guaranteed of a starting spot in the midfield I think they will lean towards Xavi in the deeper role as Cesc is better a bit further up the pitch.

  15. Romford Pele

    Honestly, you guys are just thinking of the Flamini you saw 4 years ago. He’s declined so much it’s unreal.

    “Apparently, until now no club in Europe wants him, I cannot see the reason why we should take him?”

    Exactly. We need to be going for people who will be impacting the first team immediately, not squad players.

  16. Afc53

    I don’t think a midfielder should be a priority.

    I’d like to see two up top along with zonal marking dropped.

    For me I’d move on:

    Richards
    Agger
    Cesar
    Fellaini/Cissoko
    Higuain/Suarez/Dzeko/Hernandez

  17. nuudles

    I think the rub is this: Cesc may be gettable and quite (relatively) easily affordable, BUT then Wenger needs to convince him it will be worth his while.

    This can only be done if we show appropriate intent, he cannot sell Cesc a potential dream. He needs to show him we are serious by signing a Hig/Suarez/Rooney + proper DM (Capoue/Gonalons/etc) + keeper (pref Begovic/Adler but probably going to be Cesar).

  18. Romford Pele

    Cesc and Cazorla would be sexual. Theo would score a bucket load – so would Higuain if we got him.

  19. Mayank

    There’s going to be a major shake in Bayern’s formation next season. If the rumours are to be belived this is how they’ll set up.

    Lahm – Martinez – Dante – Alaba

    ————–Schweini—————

    ———Thiago——–Goetze——

    Muller——-Ribery——-Robben

    Very direct players like Kroos are going to find a lot of time on the bench. Cesc is just a pipe dream and we need an AM. I think we should put in a bid for him.

  20. Kamal Zharif

    I’m of the opinion that we should only get one striker. I would love to have the Hig. He’s a beast, but having Suarez its not bad either. You know he’s fully adapt to the game and he has shown that he can play at the top level. However, only one striker is enough. We still have Giroud who showed great promises, and (Gasps) Sanago.

    However, if we’re going to have a two forward formation, then why the hell not? Sure we missed out on Fellaini, but having Flamini on a free its not bad either. Anyways, if its two striker system, we have too many CM anyways two buy in too many. Plus Cesc is a must!!!

  21. Pollux

    Heading out to Indonesia today. Hope the lads can have some fun in the Far East. We will see what wenger had to say when he does his press conference.

  22. Wallace

    I still think we’ll spend big on a striker and a DM – Higuain and Fellaini for me – but would have liked at least one of them in by now. Can’t see Wenger being interested in Flamini, even on a free.

  23. Vintage Gun

    My opinion on Cesc is this: If Thiago goes Cesc stays, BUT if Thiago stays that would mean that he has been promised more game time at Barca and therefore Cesc is a gooner sorry goner.

    I think that deep deep down barca prefer Thiago to Cesc but because of the drama they caused (and money spent) in getting Cesc they feel almost obliged to play him more. In my opinion

  24. Romford Pele

    Lahm – Martinez – Dante – Alaba

    ————- Schweini ————-

    ——–Thiago (if they get him) —— Kroos

    ——- Muller ——– Gotze ——- Ribery

    Kroos isn’t direct at all, that’s more Robben. And I think the Dutchman will be the fall guy. He’s getting old, he’s injury prone and still a greedy c***.

  25. Romford Pele

    “I think that deep deep down barca prefer Thiago to Cesc but because of the drama they caused (and money spent) in getting Cesc they feel almost obliged to play him more. In my opinion”

    They’re different players so it’s not really mutually exclusive.

  26. Romford Pele

    Looks like Cesar may be off to Napoli with De Sanctis to Roma – still struggling to see the logic behind that one.

  27. Damilarey

    Let do the right re-signing if at all we’ll re-sign any player. I will put my effort on Sesc if we need a gone player to come back.

    Go full force about Fellaini & wrap him up, bring him to Emirate.

    But in reality, all these are mainly assumptions. I don’t think Wenger & co. are serious to do any signing of note. Be expecting Sanogo’s calibre.

  28. Vintage Gun

    Romford Pele: I understand you as in the’re different players but Barca play them in similar positions. And now that Neymars arrived I cant see Cesc Or Thiago playing anywhere other than Midfield

  29. Moe

    Lol do u know anything about football? Koos direct player? Schweini holding mid? What about Badstuber who was 1st choice CB before he got injured and missed all of last season?

    MayankJuly 11, 2013    09:39:12
    There’s going to be a major shake in Bayern’s formation next season. If the rumours are to be belived this is how they’ll set up.Lahm – Martinez – Dante – Alaba————–Schweini————————Thiago——–Goetze——Muller——-Ribery——-RobbenVery direct players like Kroos are going to find a lot of time on the bench. Cesc is just a pipe dream and we need an AM. I think we should put in a bid for him.

  30. Romford Pele

    Vintage – Either way, both their playing time will be limited as it stands currently. I feel Thiago is more likely to leave than Cesc though.

  31. nuudles

    Vintage: you can add Iniesta to the list of players who will now only play midfield. He used to feature a lot on the wings, but with Neymar there I see him as also being moved to the middle.

  32. Romford Pele

    Anyone been watching the U20 WC? Florian Thuavin is a big big talent. Been linked with Marseille but I wouldn’t mind us going in for him.

  33. Moanalisa

    The deals are not done yet because arsenal are not offering proper money.

    Off course madrid wants to sell, everton would also consider selling, it is all down to arsenal wanting these players or not.

    If wenger is able to offer a player like podolski £100kpw, then players like cesc and fellaini should be offered the same or even more.

    Promise cesc 120 – 150kpw and he’ll hand in a transfer request with a smile.

    But wenger only offers top money to average players or kids.

  34. goonerjay

    Don’t shoot the messenger guys, But @HighburyStand has been saying for about a week now that the Cesc deal is very possible and said yesterday that Fellaini is our backup option… our first choice for DM position is Matuidi!

  35. chukwudi

    If Flamini can’t make it at milan he will not make it in Arsenal right now,let him go and search for club in turkey or arab that’s where he can play now.When he left he thought he has arrived now see where he is now I blame Wenger for making them the players they are and go behind him to stab him at the back.I remember Wenger saying that he has never felt betrayed in his football life like whta Flamini did to him,if the board will refuse the return of Anelka I know they will reject the return of Flamini.Cecs is welcome anytime any day if he is the only big signing we can pull this summer am ok.

  36. Romford Pele

    “our first choice for DM position is Matuidi!”

    I don’t believe this for a sec. He’s first choice for PSG and i’d envisage he’s on huge wages. Why would he come here?

  37. raisonar

    I too think, If Barca were to chose one between Thiago and Fabregas, they will chose Thiago.
    Thiago is younger and if signs a new contract, he will have more value in market than fabregas. They may let Fabregas leave to in order to tempt thiago to stay, but that’s optimism at its best.
    And dont worry about Xavi, he is not going to go away for next 5 years. His game is not dependent on pace.

  38. Vintage Gun

    I think Thiago is most likely to leave also as a move will boost his chances of stepping up from the Spain U21s to the Senior squad in time for the World cup

    BUT if he was to stay then i feel he would have to share time with Cesc as the 12/13th man at Barca and that will affect Cesc’s chances (With Iniesta and Xavi already starters when fit) of moving up from then first team squad to starting XI come World cup

  39. Romford Pele

    “Romford – I reckon Jovetic to City is quite likely…..”

    I don’t want to hear that 🙁

    “Who knows Romford… maybe he would want to play in a proper league!”

    Quite possible, but I don’t see him accepting a wage cut. He’s not exactly old either. And I expect Marseille and Monaco to be very competitive next season.

  40. Jim Lahey

    It was once said that religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people..

    Now in modern times ITK journalism has become the opium of the people, it is what we hold on to, our lsat hope that something will change in our club and we will finally see the big names that we have longed for arrive. I wouldn’t be so sure that will be the case however..

    What do we have in the old “war chest”? £70m.. okay.

    Alleged 25m buy out clause for Cesc .. Done: One of the best midfielders in the world back in our first 11, an assist machine.

    Leaves us with 45m.

    Actual 22m buyout clause for Fellaini.. Done: Tall midfielder, who can boss an entire midfield and grab a game by the scruff of the neck when its needed like a certain ex captain use to do.

    leaves us with 20m… I’m gonna but us in the red for 10 minutes…

    25m for a proven WC striker with plenty of CL and International experience,
    Hiugain… Done: 25+ goals a season, a bargin considering how much the likes of Torres and Carroll cost..

    So to recouple my loss of 5m .. I’m having a cut price sale! Bendtner, Park Chu-Young, Chamakh, Gervinho, Diaby, Santos, Djourou. I reckon between those 7 I could get back 15m, look 10m back in profit!

    And here is the team that would start against Villa.

    ————————-Szczęsny————————-

    Sagna—–Mertesacker—Koscielny——Monreal

    —————Fàbregas—Fellaini—————–

    Walcott————-Cazorla—————-Podolski

    ———————–Higuain———————

    Subs:
    Fabiański
    Jenkinson
    Vermaelen
    Arteta
    Wilshere
    Oxlade-Chamberlain
    Giroud

    Its football manager stuff, but it would make a nice change.

  41. raisonar

    Romford Pele
    Today’s papers reporting he is very close to City, it will be good signing for them, but i wont be losing sleep over Jovetic.
    We gotta trust wenger on this one, we were interested but he was not our first choice

  42. Romford Pele

    “BUT if he was to stay then i feel he would have to share time with Cesc as the 12/13th man at Barca and that will affect Cesc’s chances (With Iniesta and Xavi already starters when fit) of moving up from then first team squad to starting XI come World cup”

    Thiago should go to United if he wants more playing time – just as likely to be on the bench at Bayern.

  43. dialsquare

    Petit, Overmars, Anelka, Vieira, Henry, Kanu, Flamini, Reyes, Hleb, Fabregas, Nasri and Van Persie all were angling for moves away from Arsenal and if fit Rosicky and Diaby would have joined them.

  44. Romford Pele

    “but i wont be losing sleep over Jovetic”

    You will be when he makes mince meat of our defence this season.

  45. nuudles

    @goonerjay: there is NO way we are getting Matuidi. He is first choice DM at PSG, there is nothing we can offer him they cannot unless he absolutely desparately wants to play in the PL.

    They have bigger stars (he gets to play with Thiago Silva, Pastore, Lucas, Lavezzi, Ibra, etc etc), more chances of trophies, can easily match our wages, as he is first choice he will get plenty of games, they are guaranteed of playing in the CL while we have to qualify, etc etc.

  46. Ali

    reliable source from Madrid has just confirmed that Higuan deal is on the balance big time but if that falls through Arsenal will push for Benzema, Madrid want to keep one or the other plus buy a new striker (most likely to be suarez). So either way we will land one of their strikers.

  47. nuudles

    Jovetic looks good but I would MUCH rather get one of Suarez or Rooney. Jovetic can play accross the front line, so too Rooney & Suarez. Jovetic can probably play in the hole, so too Rooney. Suarez & Rooney are prem proven, world class strikers. Higuain is more of an out-and-out CF but that is what we need most: someone who can convert a higher percentages of the vast number of good chances we already create, and Hig’s assist stats are far from poor. So in my book I would tkae any one of Suarez, Rooney or Higuain over Jovetic.

    If we are looking for someone to play in the hole then I would push for Cesc, if that is not going to happen then I want Rooney, and if ManU are not willing to sell him then only would I have wanted us to consider Jovetic.

  48. goonerjay

    Romford – just had a look mate…. he wouldn’t be taking a pay cut. he’s only on 2.88m a year… that’s around 50k a week

  49. nepGunner

    Nobody took the troller’s bait…what a pity to those itchy fingers in “ready” mode on top of the dusty keyboard frantically hitting the F5 button every other second. What a pity!

    @Jim Lahey – spot on. Complexity is the excuse of the incompetents. Winners have always made things look easy no matter how hard the task is.

  50. nuudles

    @goonerjay, I still dont see it happening, PSG will easily match whatever personal terms we offer him, so if he is on £50k pw then it might just be a ploy from his agent to get him on more. With them he is basically guaranteed of trophies, CL and already a starter for club and country.

  51. Kushagra

    Lahm – Martinez – Dante – Alaba——-
    ————- Schweini ————-——–
    —–Thiago/Goetze —— Kroos——-
    ——Goetze/Robben ——– Muller ——- Ribery

  52. Vintage Gun

    Romford I agree Thiago should go to Man U for regular football as their midfield for all its graft and discipline lacks flair and magic

    And as nuudles said with Iniesta back full time in the middle IF (Which i doubt) he stays then hes Deffo been promised more playing time which will kick Cesc in his nutsack

  53. samsenal

    i can’t believe people still think signing a player for over £20m from Massive, proud clubs is an easy task.

  54. Romford Pele

    Nuudles,

    I’m talking Jovetic for the AM position here – something which is a priority too. We should be signing him in addition to a Higuain-type forward.

    “Jovetic is a little Montenegrin bitch, way overhyped IMO.”

    Nothing little about Jovetic – you do know he’s 6ft 1 right?

  55. Romford Pele

    “Whats the deal with Cabaye these days ? he was last summers must have”

    Going to PSG apparently. He’s good but not in the top bracket.

  56. raisonar

    dialsquare
    “Jovetic was Wenger’s No 1 choice.”

    I dont think so BBC confirmed it too. If he indeed was first choice, he would have been in Asia flight today. Arsenal will pay similar amount for Higuain, which makes it obvious that he was not first choice

  57. samflu

    @Romford Pele

    I do know, but thanks. Heighth doesn’t give you balls and drive though. He’s just never impressed me and whenever I see him he complains and is on the floor more than he actually plays.

  58. Vintage Gun

    @ Jim Lahey 10:18:55

    I think thats the team we should be looking to start at Villa also.
    Its almost within our (Supposed) budget but what about the funds for a 4th CB??

  59. enk

    for those of u crying for pogba and praising him like he s de best thing since slice bread, here’s de fact – we ve had a pogba and his name was alex song!

  60. Romford Pele

    Samflu,

    He definitely has balls and drives in abundance, i’d advise you to watch him more. With regards to being on the floor, that’s what happens when you can’t get the ball off flair players.

  61. samflu

    Dude get off his dick, he is nowhere near Suarez, Higuain or Rooney. If he’s so damn good why is he still at Fiore and most probably staying there?

  62. Romford Pele

    “for those of u crying for pogba and praising him like he s de best thing since slice bread, here’s de fact – we ve had a pogba and his name was alex song!”

    Lol

  63. Romford Pele

    “Dude get off his dick, he is nowhere near Suarez, Higuain or Rooney. If he’s so damn good why is he still at Fiore and most probably staying there?”

    Well for starters, he’s not a striker. If you watched him often enough you’d know that. He’s likely to leave Viola, hence the links with all the big clubs. You have to start from somewhere you know.

  64. samflu

    He plays in a slow, fading league where all old defenders go to finish their careers and still only has 35 goals in 5 seasons. OVERFUCKINGHYPED.

  65. goonerjay

    Oh I know what you’re saying nuudles. But lets be honest here… the only trophies he’s guaranteed at PSG are the domestic ones that mean dick all with the state of the French league (as bad as the SPL was… 2 competing teams). Arsenal can offer him CL and if we do sign a Cesc and Higuain… i’d give us a chance of beating their team of ‘stars’. he’d also be a guaranteed starter with us and wouldn’t lose his spot in the French team for playing in a tougher league. Unless he’s one of these money orientated players it’s possible… depends if the player wants a footballing challenge or a wage like some of his new team mates

  66. nuudles

    Romford: at AM I would hands down have Cesc or Rooney over Jovetic. If we get Suarez up front then Santi will play more in the hole as Suarez can play accross the front three or as a second striker with Giroud. If neither of Cesc or Rooney are available then I dont think we are trying hard enough…

    Basically: if we are spending £20+m then it should be on a world-class player or someone who is a PL proven beast (Fellaini). Jovetic is promising but he is nowhere near world-class yet with no guarantee of him making it in the PL (many who come from Italian leagues dont travel well).

  67. Romford Pele

    “He plays in a slow, fading league where all old defenders go to finish their careers and still only has 35 goals in 5 seasons. OVERFUCKINGHYPED.

    And he’s defintiely played as a striker.”

    That’s a real generalisation of Serie A, which of course isn’t true. Like i said, if you watched more football, you’d know.

    He played as the false 9 in Vincenzo Montella’s side this season. Prior to that he’s always been a number 10.

    And with regards to goalscoring records, Henry and RVP had shoddy records before they joined us too.

  68. lamia

    Get real, Cesc is not coming back to Arsenal, why would he. Cesc gives Barca a goal threat from midfield. He has a great understanding with Messi and provides a lot of assists when they play together. While Iniesta is an amazing players, breathtaking skills, it is often the case that there is no end product. His goal scoring and assist record is not that great. Not that I’m criticising him, he’s a joy to watch. Xavi is in decline and can only have 1- 2 years left in him.

    Besides, following their mauling by Bayern I think there will be a subtle change in the playing style of Barca and a little less tippy tappy.

  69. Romford Pele

    “Romford: at AM I would hands down have Cesc or Rooney over Jovetic. If we get Suarez up front then Santi will play more in the hole as Suarez can play accross the front three or as a second striker with Giroud. If neither of Cesc or Rooney are available then I dont think we are trying hard enough…

    Basically: if we are spending £20+m then it should be on a world-class player or someone who is a PL proven beast (Fellaini). Jovetic is promising but he is nowhere near world-class yet with no guarantee of him making it in the PL (many who come from Italian leagues dont travel well).”

    Cesc yes, Rooney no. Rooney is much better as a striker rather than a number 10. It’s a big myth that he’s creative, definitely nowhere near as much as JoJo and Cesc. Also, I wouldn’t play Suarez in any other position apart from striker, we’ll probably have to agree to disagree there.

    Take your point about people from Serie A not adapting well but I think that’s becoming more a thing of the past now. More and more EPL sides are adapting and playing a more continental style of football. The league is becoming less and less physical which suits the foreign imports. It was harder for players back then as the ball spent most of its time in the air. Arsenal are a possession-based team that like to move it quickly, that will suit JoJo.

  70. Jim Lahey

    @ Vintage Gun.

    I agree we do need a 4th CB. I think we could pick up someone like Kyriakos Papadopoulos for about 6-8m. No need for Williams with Vermaelen still in the squad, but Papadopoulos is young and could be a very good CB in time.

    I have never been a fan of playing a player out of position, but Sagna didn’t look too out of place when he filled in at CB. Jenkinson might also be albe to play there, but as I said, not a fan of playing players out of position!

    Another thing I would like to say, Higuain, Fellaini, Cesc.. I can’t see it. I can’t see Wenger spending over 70m in one transfer window. I don’t think he has it in him. Maybe one of the three, maybe.

    So then the question comes up, do I think we will challenge for the title next year? no.. Not without those 3 players and more coming in, and Wenger hasn’t got it in him to do that. (I truly hope I am proven wrong)

  71. nuudles

    @goonerjay: PSG lost to Barca in the CL’s QF only on away goals… So they got to the CL QF which we have not done for a while, therefore your point about us offering him CL is moot as they also do and their recent track record is better than ours.

    If he comes to us then he joins a project and a dream, with them they are already living the dream (trophies). As I said right in my first comment about him: the only reason why he would come ifs if he wants to play in the PL (so I agree with your point that he might want to play in a tougher competition, but they play in the CL guaranteed, which is pretty tough).

    Capoue, Gonalons and even Bender/M’vila are more likely options.

  72. Romford Pele

    “While Iniesta is an amazing players, breathtaking skills, it is often the case that there is no end product”

    There’s always end product – just because it doesn’t translate into a goal or assist doesn’t mean he’s not being productive. There’s something called the pre-assist which doesn’t get spoken about a lot. It’s when a player like Iniesta, Hleb takes two/three players out of the game through a dribble and then passes to a teammate. The teammate then plays it in for someone to score. The scorer and the assister get credit, but in effect, the goal would never have come about without Iniesta’s work. Plus, there are three forwards who play ahead of Iniesta who are scoring and assisting so there isn’t as much onus on him to net. Iniesta tends to score vital goals too.

  73. Zoran

    “Florian Thuavin is a big big talent. Been linked with Marseille but I wouldn’t mind us going in for him.”
    Exactly, but we where also being linked with him, and also had €5m rejected by his club.

  74. Bermy boy

    We are now officially grabbing at straws, which shows a sure sign of desperation,no one on this site has any idea what is going on at afc it appears..

  75. Gregg

    Interesting points above re; Xavi.

    Barcalona will not altar their style but perhaps the personnel. I’m not sure they see Fabregas as a Xavi replacement as such, but after their mauling by Munich and the issues Spain faced in the Confeds cup (I know, I know) there may be a concern about Xavi being able to participate as much. I’m sure Del Bosque

  76. Romford Pele

    “I have never been a fan of playing a player out of position, but Sagna didn’t look too out of place when he filled in at CB. Jenkinson might also be albe to play there, but as I said, not a fan of playing players out of position!”

    It’s not really playing out of position though is it? It’s just someone who can play multiple positions.

  77. Marko

    Very surprised if Thiago went to Bayern what with Martinez, Schweinsteger, Gustavo, Kroos, Muller and Gotze and a couple others who can play in the middle or AM. Also with Barca spending so much money on Neymar and potentially Thiago Silva be sure one of Cesc, Thiago or Alexis Sanchez will go.

  78. The Hig

    Flamini over Barry for sure. On second thought, screw him. He left when he saw that he’s a bit good. I’ll have Cesc back tho, who wouldn’t? And Barca never ever valued Cesc at all, they just bought him cos they saw that him and Wilshere together stunned them with Messi and all. And they know that Arsenal is the only team who can actually beat them in Europe at their own game.

  79. Jim Lahey

    @ Romford Pele

    True that he could play both positions, I just feel RB is his strongest, maybe I should rephrase and say I prefer when players are played in their strongest position.

  80. goonerjay

    Nuudles…. Barca then got battered 7-0 in the next round against the team that narrowly beat us by 1 goal on aggregate…. and that was the worst Arsenal team in a looong time.

    I see what you’re saying, but if we could offer him a team capable of challenging at the highest level and the deciding factor comes down to ‘should I stay in Ligue 1 or go to the BPL’ I know what one most would choose.
    I don’t think we will get him… but we could if we tried.

  81. Radio Raheem

    Swansea is a city in Spain. No club has more Spaniards outside of Spain. They’re currently talking to Granero.

    Thiago Silva might like Barca but I can’t see this transfer happening. He’ll be too expensive for them.

  82. Romford Pele

    Jim Lajey,

    That’s fair, but in emergencies, it’s always good to have versatile players. Part of the reason why Flamini was such a good player for us. And another reason why Ramsey is so valued by the manager.

  83. Bermy boy

    I don’t think asswipe has a master plan up his sleeve,he will try his best with last years team.fuckface will run his contract out with the knowledge that he was financially sound and competitive enough to make champions league .trust me he will leave with his financially sound head held high,all the while saying fuck you little .

  84. Reiss

    Grenier staying at Lyon will probably be see Kris Olsson in the first team I can’t trust Wenger.and his fascination with the kids.

  85. arsenal tom

    Romford…

    According to a couple of different twitter people (i know i know) Wenger is a big big fan and has spoken to him personally about coming to Arsenal, trouble will be with his agent apparently looking to move him somewhere where he can get more cash

  86. Romford Pele

    “They’re currently talking to Granero.”

    He’d be a great buy – can’t believe he went to QPR in the first place.

  87. nuudles

    @Romford, agree to disagree on Rooney not being suited to playing in the hole. In my opinion he is fantastically creative and he can easily live with the likes of Xavi, Cesc & Prilo when it comes to the execution of the pass. His stats dont tell the whole picture as he often makes the pass that leads to the assist, but there are very few players in the world who can pick out RvP with that pass against Aston Villa… Not only basing my opinion on that (watched a match from last season when they played Newcastle away as there was nothing else on TV and he ran the show, and some of his passes and through balls were truly world class, just one game but there are bags more like that).

    ManU fans arent the brightest lot and they like to judge purely based on stats, but even there his returns are very good: in 22 PL starts and 5 subs he scored 12 and assisted 10. That is just slightly down on Cesc’s best season for us where he scored 15 and assisted 13 in 26 starts and 1 sub appearance. And most people would say Rooney had a poor season…

  88. Gregg

    Romford
    Excellent, Wenger reverting to type and lining up the French U-20’s side then. Add your Thauvin guy and summer signings done.

    Actually seen Kondogbia couple of times last year, seemed impressive in all fairness. Daily Mail ran this story in May.

  89. Romford Pele

    Arsenal Tom

    Kondogbia you’re talking about right? He’s a big talent. I know Madrid, Inter and Chelsea have all looked at him. Hopefully we can jump in there – a French player I would love to have!

  90. Reiss

    Like I said before I can see Wenger bringing out his infamous buying is not always the answer speech and how we should keep the squad we have together.

  91. monty

    Arsenal are interested in signing Iraq left back Ali adnan, he is a gun been watching him at the u20 world cup made it to the semis, scored a scorcher,wat yall think? I love him

  92. bc

    Of the hleb/cesc/flam/rosicky midfield the flamster was the worst player. People seem to only remember his last season when he was playing for a pay rise or a move. Thankfully the club and wenger remembered the previous seasons wherehis only good performances were the ones at left back. This is no bull I would rather give frimpong diaby yennaris and aneke the chance to act as back up to arteta ramsey and jack rather than sign flamini or barry even, however with frimmy and diaby currebtly injured there is a need for a signing or two. Fellaini and Capoue would be my choices as capoue can also play centre back.

    For me its simple what we need fellaini cesc and higuain at £25m each. With a further £20m raised from the sale and release of the deadwood on capoue williams and cesar.

  93. Emiratesstroller

    I think that there is every chance that Fabregas could move in this transfer window if there is genuinely a fixed price of £25 million for his transfer to us. Fabregas cannot be happy that he has moved further down pecking order at Barcelona with arrival of Neymar.

    Also he would be guaranteed first team football playing attacking midfield or secondary striker role with Cazorla moving to left.

    I believe still that Higuain will move to the club rather than Suarez. For a start
    I think that Suarez is now more or less the only striker option left for Real now
    that Cavani and Falcao have gone or are going elsewhere and Bale is not on
    market.

    My view is that Arsenal’s alleged approach for Suarez is a ploy to force Real to
    conclude business on Higuain sooner rather than later.

    Arsenal will still need to bring in three additional players ie goalkeeper,centre
    back and defensive/box to box midfielder. However, the first two acquisitions
    are likely to cost at least £50 million so that the remaining budget is quite low.

    If Higuain and Fabregas were to come in then I would expect Gervinho to be
    offloaded.

    Personally I would be unenthusiastic to see Flamini return. I did not like the
    manner of his departure on a Bosman to AC Milan. There was never any suggestion that Fabregas was disloyal to Arsenal, but there certainly was in case of Flamini.

  94. Romford Pele

    Gregg – Haha, wouldn’t surprise me mate. Both of them are hugely talented but it wouldn’t surprise me if those signings pissed off fans.

  95. dialsquare

    Arsenal pussy footing around will never spend £75m net in this transfer window at max they’ll spend £40m which is dolly mixtures to what the big players in the market are spending.

  96. Romford Pele

    Nuudles,

    Fair, can’t disagree with your analysis. I just haven’t been impressed by him for the last 2/3 seasons. I personally think he may be burning out, but who knows, a move may well reinvigorate his career. All this aside, if he does want to leave United, I think he’ll go to Chelsea rather than us. They’re the most likely to pay his 250k, plus his best friend is there (Cashley).