Chamberlain should have been with the U21s | Higuain lady works in London | Arsenal / Ivan Q&A

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Transfer stories are the same as yesterday, bar a story from a certain publication trying to fob off a photoshopped image of Fellaini in an Arsenal shirt as real. I know a click isn’t a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but when your sole objective is driving revenue from dishonest reporting rather than delivering something of interest to fans… well, it hacks me off. The same site declared later that day we were in advanced talks for Ba…

Anyway, I watched some under 21 games yesterday. I caught the highlights of Italy smashing Israel. Plenty of bad keeping in that game. Plenty of classy looking Italian players as well.

Then I jumped on board Spain vs Germany in the evening. So much talent in the Spanish squad. Alcantara impressive player, Isco looks and absolute superstar and the striker from Benfica whose name alludes me looked handy as well (Rodrigo?). Ginter, of Frieberg started the game at the back. He looked pretty handy playing at centre back, keeping Spain at bay… Kind of. Only a late goal by Madrid’s super sub Morata split the sides (after Ginter moved into midfield)… yet more bad keeping at fault.

What I found I interesting was the depth these sides had. Most players were first team for their clubs. Most were sublimely talented and they all worked really hard for the cause. For me, Chamberlain should have been out there. We’ve a fairly snobby approach to this tournament which is pretty weak considering how bad we are as a nation when it comes to international football.

I can understand dropping a player like Jack when he’s dropped 50 senior games… but not Chamberlain… He’d have benefitted hugely from being the star. Just my opinion of course… I might even have thrown in Gibbs if I was safe in the knowledge he wouldn’t explode into a puff of dust through his mammoth 29 game season.

This evening there’s a Q&A with Ivan Gazidis at the club which I’m hoping to get to. I’m not sure how this one is going to pan out. The questions are prevetted, which gives room for slick answers. The reason the club give is that when the questions are thrown open to the floor, things get pushed in one direction… which is true. You let a group of fans ask questions they haven’t thought about and you’d be amazed at the level of question thrown out. Gazidis does normally take a few unscripted questions, so let’s hope it’s a productive evening… and it’s important to remember that I think only Everton have supporters meetings with the CEO (which, after the fans leaked off the record details, the club cancelled).

I’m sure most of the focus will be around players and who we’re bringing in. I’d imagine he’ll tell us the same things he’s been telling the press… we’ll go big if the right player agrees to join. I did read somewhere that Higuain’s girlfriend works for the BBC in London… which might be a sway over Juventus. We’ll see though… like I’ve said all summer, we’re not selling a finished product, we’re selling a dream. A dream that will come with a lot of cash. But a dream all the same.

Right, not a lot else to report on. Enjoy the day and tune into my Twitter feed this evening for some serious live tweeting. Click follow below to join the party.


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  1. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    Like I said he prefers Bayern. What is your point? It is irrelevant how this preference came about in the context of the original comment. All what you saying are obvious and needn’t be raised. What is your point?

  2. N5

    Jovetic is linked with everyone, talking to no one, his agent is doing what agents do, he’s trying to secure him the best wage possible and obviously his own signing bonus! the only risk of doing it this way is everyone is sick of the whoring before the player puts pen to paper and if he isn’t instantly good then god forbid.

  3. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    “a CEO on nearly 2 million pounds a year ”

    What’s your point on the above? If IG was paid 50K a year, would it make him lesser a CEO than he is now? Don’t you think that’s a bit pot & kettle?

    Anyways, Ivan (and CEO before him) and the Board have always backed Wenger publicly regarding availability of transfer funds but he has always done things his ways – prioritizing balancing club’s balance sheet than the balance of the team. So if the management of the team was in total control of the club’s proceedings, wouldn’t Wenger be questioned for scrapping 4th two years in a row when he didn’t utilize the available resources? And if Wenger is allowed by the management to run his own show, isn’t he in control of the proceedings at the club? At least the footballing side?

  4. Keyser

    RR – I remember both his games against us from the season before last, Lewandowski never really impressed, but there was a massive dropoff in the way Dortmund played as soon as Goetze left the pitch injured midway through the first half,

    Anyway point is this principled stance doesn’t count for much yet, and they’ve already sold them the great white hope in Goetze, also the parrallels aren’t really that clear when it comes to comparing it to us.

    I’m not really sure what your point was, maybe we should start there.

  5. Paddy got up

    Anyone know how I get into this Q & A thing tonight with Ivan the Invisible?
    Am looking for 2 tickets. 1 for me and the other for my new Mrs..
    You might of seen her on TV on Sat. She’s the one with the eggs!!!!

  6. Keyser

    nepGunner – Eh ? Because if Wenger’s in control of balancing the club’s entire finances then what does everyone else do ? Especially if he’s selling players to avoid the club running at a loss.

    What’s your point ? People keep saying ‘funds’, Isn’t ‘how much’ more relevant ?

    Wenger’s built balanced sides, then found he’s had to dismantle them again as they move on. What do you think’s happening at the club ?

  7. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    How about 70m pounds, eh? It was publicly announced in January transfer window and there should be some addition to that with the new deals announced recently for this summer.

  8. TitsMcgee

    Wenger definitely has had the ball in his court.

    Even Gazidis’ comments about “what the fans want and what Wenger wants are two different things” comment alludes to that.

    It’s also naive to think that he would be pushing for additions and the board (non football people) overruling him.

  9. Paulinho

    Keyser – You’ve changed your tune a bit it seems.

    Back at Xmas you were talking about how this was the first time we had money and it was all ‘hopefully Wenger knows’.

  10. Keyser

    Paulinho – Changed my tune ? Back when Wenger made all those deadline day signings and people were saying he’s changed, I said it seemed more like the club was playing or time to get them to their promised land.

  11. Paulinho

    Keyser No back in December when you said this summer would be the first time Wenger had money to spend and ‘hopefully Wenger knows’.

    Now it seems you’re back to the usual defeatist what’s the point in bothering mindset.

  12. Keyser

    Paulinho – Mate, it’s one thing knowing, it’s another thing getting it to happen. What’s defeatist about it ? Heh, sounds funny coming from you.

  13. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    You fail to see parallels between 2 clubs having a player in the last year of their contract? One publically states that the player will not be sold to a said club the other sells. Remember I said “if Dortmund stick…”

    The rest is a matter of opinion. We all have one. But I’m sure most would agree that Lewandowski was of greater value to Dortmund in the last 2 seasons. Those who have watched Dortmund anyway.

  14. Oh Theo Theo!

    Why are you even bothering to speculate on stuff that you’ve frankly no idea about.

    Wenger = devious bastard
    Gazidis = devious, slick, smooth talking bastard
    Kroenke = devious, rug wearing, ranch buying, bastard.

    So you

  15. nepGunner

    @keyser

    70 m is a significant amount…u could buy at least 3 WC players and what is the connection between 7 years of profit and Wenget not being in charge of the club’s proceedings? In fact it only proves that he is more interested in financial aspects than the on field affairs of the club…u lost me there

  16. N5

    Kroenke = devious, rug wearing, ranch buying, bastard.

    Mwahahahaha, Le Grove has been really funny today, but this comment has made me laugh out loud, I’m a civil servant sitting in the corner of the office and I always have Grove open and just flick between my work and this, now I’ve just done a big maniacal laugh how am I going to explain that one to my boss, thanks Theo.

  17. N5

    nep you’ve taken the bait, I always see people saying there not going to get into a conversation with Keyser about things, he is a really nice guy but you’ll never sway his opinion so you could have a back and fourth for hours.

  18. Keyser

    RR – “Those who have watched Dortmund anyway.”

    Don’t pull that, heh. You do realise Dortmund won the league in 2010-11 aswell don’t you ? Lewandowski managed 33 apearances for 9 goals, Gotze at 18 managed 33 appearances for 8 goals, I don’t think it’s as straightforward as you’d like it to be.

    But, you’re right that’s just opinion.

    There’s 2 months of the transfer window still left, and Dortmund’s CEO mentioned not having a written formal offer from Bayern despite two phone calls or something, he also didn’t rule out selling Lewandowski to another club.

    Imagine if we’d just sold Man United Fabregas, no Chelsea, Citeh or any other club to worry about, but United who’d just won the league, the FA Cup and beaten us in the Champions League final, 36 hours before the semi-final United had got Fabregas to commit to them and during the semi-final second leg Fabregas limped off after 14 minutes, ruling himself out of the final.

    Then during the off season United then ask for Van Persie, and Gazidis says ‘ We haven’t recieved a written offer, so Robin won’t be leaving’.

    Would ‘prinicpled’ be the opinion of the Le Grove faithful ?

    Though I suppose you could say we’d won the league twice with Fabregas as a parallel, but then we’d also have been on the verge of relegation/bankruptcy a few years earlier.

    Who knows, I agree that the club plays a massive part and it isn’t just down to the manager, I just find it hard to believe in ‘prinicpled’ in todays game.

  19. Keyser

    Paulinho – Is that what you’re going for ? Heh. that was the best you could come up with ? Come on ffs.

    We have bought Cazorla, Podolski, Giroud and Monreal, so while that’s more in line with us spending money, it’s still nowhere near where we were with Fabregas, Nasri and co a couple of years ago.

    Tell me you’ve got something better to discuss ? You must like Cazorla despite the comments you’ve made during the season.

  20. N5

    Theo Theo, it’s not my fault this site is to addicting! still it’s not much tax don’t worry, last week I got paid £5.50 and a curley wurley so if you wanna meet up at N5 next season I’ll save you 12.5% of the Wurley 😀

  21. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    Dortmund’s stance will be principled if,
    i) Lewandowski is not sold
    ii) Lewandowski is sold to any club apart from Bayern, the player’s preference.

    (i) is more symbolic than (ii)

    All the other suppositions you raise are interesting but irrelevant. I might share your cynicism about principles in modern football but it doesn’t blind me from recognising it when or if it occurs.

  22. Keyser

    nepGunner – Because after 7 years of Wenger buying and selling players to turn a profit, all we’ve got is 70m to spend ? and you don’t think to yourself what is everyone else at the club doing ?

    Would you rather have 70m or go back two years and have Fabregas, Nasri, Van Persie and so on.

    Gazidis can announce what he wants.

    Gazidis – ‘Good News, Arsene, we’ve got 70m to spend’

    Wenger – ‘Fuck off you dopey cunt, how is that news it’s what we’ve made selling all those players’.

    Gazidis – ‘Oh yeah, fuck’.

  23. Paulinho

    Keyser – Nah I was quite happy to establish that you’ve gone from putting emphasis on Wenger’s decision making being decisive six months ago to going back to your default position of absolving him of all responsibility for absolutely everything that goes wrong with the club.

  24. Keyser

    RR – Yeah, but it won’t draw many parrallel’s with us, it’s like people comparing the Premiership to the Bundesliga, without bothering to actually compare it.

  25. GS88

    The media love to play us. Now they have got us making a bid for Giatan. Every day it’s new name. But no end product

  26. Keyser

    Paulinho – How did you come up with it being ‘Decisive’ from’ ‘hopefully Wenger knows’ I’ve never absolved him of all blame, I’m just not one of those nutters, that ignores everything else that happens in the World, and blames everything on Wenger, you know an ‘Akb’ like yourself.

  27. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    So basically, Wenger is shutting up the fucking doping cunt of a CEO and ppl who think Wenger has control over the club are stupid. Thanks I got your point.

    N5
    Thanks for the heads up mate!

  28. Paulinho

    Keyser – Yeah are you are a nutter alright. You think every good signing we make is down to Wenger and every bad one is down to the evil board.

  29. Radio Raheem

    Keyser,

    Yes it would. This principle applies in both cases because it is a simple one. I have argued on here against the sort comparison between us and Bundesliga teams. This is different. This is not about how money is spent and generated but about, potentially, a moral issue. It can, on the face of it, be a case of the heart overruling the head.

    Yet there is the counter arguement that keeping Lewandowski is best way of Dortmund getting into the CL. Thus, making it a good business decision. I’d have accepted this as a reposte.

  30. Arsene's Nurse

    It’s not just £70m this year, it’s £70m this year and another £70m next year and another £70m the year after and the year after that.

    Arsenal’s revenue is going to jump £75m plus when the new puma deal kicks in.

    TV money this year increases revenue by £25-30m.
    Property this year increases revenue by £12m. (and again next year)
    Emirates shirt deal (plus stadium naming) this year increases revenue by £20-25m.

    We’ve just knocked £200k a week (10m per year) off the wage bill.

    People just don’t realise that Gazidis is right when he says that the game has changed as far as Arsenal are concerned. We can spend vast amounts of money and it not affect us or fall fowl of FPP (if that ever happens).

    If we want a player costing £50m and earning £250k per week we can easily afford it multiple times over.

  31. Keyser

    nepGunner – What are you on about ? Mate are you saying Wenger has control over everything ? If so what does everyone else at the club do ?

    Also if he controls everything, why the fuck would he need to be publically told he has money to spend, lol.

  32. Paulinho

    Keyser – You’re the one who appears confused by who’s responsible for signing players.

    Why wouldn’t Fabregas count?

  33. Keyser

    RR – I don’t even think there is that much of a seperation, Lewandowski is on 20k a week with a year left on his contract, he’s in control pretty much unless he has an absolutely shocking year next year, but even then at 25/26 he’ll get at least 3-4 times what he’s on now.

    I don’t see why Lewandowski would be desperate to leave or why Bayern would be desperate to buy him, I think that negates the moral issue of it a bit don’t you ?

  34. N5

    I just read that Bayern Munich’s cheapest season ticket costs £104 a season and Dortmunds £160ish, that sickens me.

  35. Keyser

    Paulinho – “You think every good signing we make is down to Wenger and every bad one is down to the evil board.”

    “You’re the one who appears confused by who’s responsible for signing players.”

    Have you suffered an injury of some sort ? You’d constantly go on about Project Youth, but only confine to a specific period, to specific players, you seemed ecstatic this project had ended when we started buying players like Arteta, Mertesacker or Santos.

  36. Paulinho

    Keyser – You’re making no sense whatsoever. What’s your point?

    I wasn’t ecstatic when Wenger signed all those players. I – and several others – used it as a further confirmation that he didn’t have a clue what he was doing.

    I remember you said it showed Wenger had ‘given up’. So quite a bit different that this bollocks:

    “Back when Wenger made all those deadline day signings and people were saying he’s changed, I said it seemed more like the club was playing or time to get them to their promised land”

  37. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    Money isn’t a big issue in this case as he’ll
    earn more wherever he moves. Dortmund offered him a contract on better terms. So he’d have earned more next season irrespective of clubs. I’m sure City and a few other clubs can blow Bayern out of water when it
    comes to wages. Yet the player prefers Bayern.

    The moral issue, I mean feeling here, is that Dortmund feel slighted by Bayern and on principle are prepared to lose €25m for it.

  38. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    You really are trading on muddy water. I agree Wenger might not be in 100% control of the club (I don’t think SK would approve of that) but If he was not in control of most operational aspects of the club why would IG need to corner him publicly? It could have been sorted out quietly in year end review meeting, don’t you think? Don’t just imply that ppl who have different opinions to yours are stupid. Has IG come out and told you personally that Wenger is not in control?

  39. Keyser

    Paulinho – You’ve pulled up a quote from six months ago you plum, you brought it up not me, it’s like you’ve guessed what I mean’t and decided ‘Yup in my head it makes sense, I’ll ask him about it now’.

    “I – and several others – used it as a further confirmation that he didn’t have a clue what he was doing.”

    Did you really ? So all that time you spent eulogising Arteta or defending Santos, was what ?

    So like pretty much always, do you want to start again ?

    “I remember you said it showed Wenger had ‘given up’. So quite a bit different that this bollocks:”

    How is that bollocks ?

  40. Keyser

    nepGunner – That’s a question you need to answer, why would Gazidis need to corner him publically ? What good would it do ?

  41. Pedro

    Keyser, it deflects attention away from people like you who push the… ‘Wenger isn’t given the funds’ when he doesn’t spend.

  42. Paulinho

    Keyser – They were reactionary signings. Solid no brainer types (Arteta and Mertsesacker at least) that would steady the ship, a ship that was sinking because Wenger didn’t have the foggiest idea what he was doing with the team beforehand.

    We lost only two players remember (and Nasri played against Liverpool). The way you go on about that summer you would think 3/4 of the squad was gutted.

    “How is that bollocks ?”

    I’ve already explained why. Most people who didn’t think the sun shone from Wenger’s arse had further confirmation he had no idea what he was doing, and you said yourself it showed he had given up. I see now it’s the ‘club’. Everything you disagree with seems to be a club decision.

  43. Keyser

    RR – “The moral issue, I mean feeling here, is that Dortmund feel slighted by Bayern and on principle are prepared to lose €25m for it.”

    Maybe I’m just really cynical, I’d rather wait to see how it plays out before taking the stance as prinicpled, Dortmund’s offer won’t have matched what he could get elsewhere, they’d have to substantially break their wage structure probably more protecting their invesment,, plus Lewandowski’s signing on fee a year from now should be massive, unless he has a pretty bad season next year.

  44. Oh Theo Theo!

    arsenal-flavour – the reason is the FA. Look at chairman bernstein’s recent proclimation that Pearce is still the right man for the U21s.

    Clearly he’s not, they were total shite. But the FA in the country is laughably in charge of youth development, at which they’re about 20 years behind the rest of Europe.

    It would be easy to fix – cream off 10% of the prem money as a “development tax” (circa £550m) and you could have 5 regional youth development centres built and run to make our players decent.

    It’s also that they don’t do any properly organised sport at most primary schools so they get to 10 without qualified coaching at school. Unless you as a parent take your kids to a local club.

    And then when you do, they don’t teach touch and technique they teach kick and rush on big pitches.

    The dutch play high sided games on small pitches (8 a side on 5 a side pitches for eg) which teaches touch and technique from age 4 or 5.

    So, unsurprisingly our players are leaden footed cloggers with no technique (see U21 team) and the prem league teams get 50% of their players overseas where they teach technique and skill.

    It’s not rocket science, but the FA is so laughably useless they can’t fix it.

  45. TitsMcgee

    Keyser – You’ve changed your tune a bit it seems.Back at Xmas you were talking about how this was the first time we had money and it was all ‘hopefully Wenger knows’.

    Keyser changes his mind to suit the situation.

    It’s called “making excuses”

  46. Keyser

    Pedro – I’ve always said ‘How much’ while you’re still sticking with this nofunds/funds bullshit.

    Gazidis has no reason to corner him publically unless he wants to make a scapegoat of Wenger. Ater all you yourself made posts about how we’re only turning a profit while selling players.

    They’re either all in it together, or Gazdis, the board and Kroenke need to accept a whole load more responsibility.

  47. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    You mean it shows Wenger is not in control so IG needs to corner him publicly to put pressure on him to spend the unused accumulated transfer funds? Why not simply sack him and show who is in control?

  48. Keyser

    Paulinho – “a ship that was sinking because Wenger didn’t have the foggiest idea what he was doing with the team beforehand.”

    “Everything you disagree with seems to be a club decision.”

    Lol this is pathetic now, so the entire ship was sinking because of Wenger, but everything I disagree with seems to be the clubs decision.

    Make your mind up.

  49. N5

    Is Pedro the first picture Bade? he’s a good looking guy *no homo (I saw Keyser write that earlier and wanted to say it.

  50. Paulinho

    TitsMcGee – And apparently, according to Keyser, a manager identifying what players to buy doesn’t have the potential to have a ‘decisive’ effect oo our fortunes.

  51. Radio Raheem

    Keyser

    I did say “If…” earlier in the debate. The other stuff are true but you must agree there are a few other clubs that pay more than Bayern outside of Germany. But yeah lets wait and see what happens.

    Anyway I’ve got to go now. Play nice.

  52. Paulinho

    Keyser – You do realise Wenger is the manager right? He’s not the kitman or physiotherapist? You’re aware of that yeah?

  53. Cesc Appeal

    Pedro

    As long as Ivan is above board I think he’s played a blinder the last few months.

    Added £70-80 Million a year in commercials with two deals (Puma and Emirates) plus the expansion into Africa with Airtel etc and us starting to probe into the Far East (Vietnam tour) means he’s probably added around £100 Million to our commercial recently PA.

    He’s heavily publicized that with Journos like Cross saying ‘The Board have done their bit, now it’s down to Wenger.’

    He’s now said Wenger has a massive budget and the answer he gave to Rooney suggested ‘we can do better’ almost when you read it back.

    He’s literally said to the Arsenal fans Wenger decides his playing staff, we’ve given him the platinum plated tools, he’s got to finish the job.

    He’s backed Wenger into a corner expertly well there I think.

    The fans will only have one person to be angry at if this all goes tits up…and I think Gazidis knows it.

    Again, IF we believe Gazidis and the Board are sincere in their goals.

  54. Keyser

    nepGunner – What I mean ? I said you need to answer the question for yourself.

    I don’t think Gazidis is conerning him publically, he has absolutely no reason to, unless he’s trying to scapegoat Wenger as the bad apple, while the club moves on, which is complete bollocks.

    Him and Wenger should be working together to bring in whatever signings we need.

  55. Paulinho

    “Lol this is pathetic now, so the entire ship was sinking because of Wenger, but everything I disagree with seems to be the clubs decision.Make your mind up.”

    You talking to yourself?

  56. Keyser

    Paulinho – Yeah, and now follow it through, what does Gazidis do, what responsibility do the board have ? and what do our two billionaires do ?

    Don’t look for someone to hold your hand like you usually do.

  57. TitsMcgee

    ” I always see people saying there not going to get into a conversation with Keyser about things, he is a really nice guy but you’ll never sway his opinion so you could have a back and fourth for hours.”

    I’m relatively new but this is growing more and more apparent.

  58. Paulinho

    Keyser – What does Gazidis do?

    He waits around for that dithering fool Wenger to make up his mind and consistently makes excuses for him in public.

    Wenger made the vast majority of his fuck ups before Gazidis even arrived so think a bit hard thicko.

  59. Keyser

    CA – Do you mean on the players or the the validity of the rumour ? Strootman didn’t look soo good for Hollands under21’s, though they’ve won both games.

  60. TitsMcgee

    Wenger’s apperantly eyeing up De Vrij, Strootman and Maher.

    Thoughts?

    More tabloid BS.

    but…

    Strootman-yes

    De Vrij and Maher too young.

  61. Paulinho

    “he is a really nice guy but you’ll never sway his opinion so you could have a back and fourth for hours.””

    Well he can’t keep to an opinion himself never mind be swayed on it.

  62. Keyser

    Paulinho – Now the club, the board, and Kronke.

    See that’s how fucking hard it is for you to apportion blame to anyone else, and you have the cheek to try and call me myopic.

  63. salparadisenyc

    Gazidas stating on the record “we can compete with any club in the world’ we have “financial firepower, can afford Rooney”.. makes little sense to me unless were on the verge of signing pretty top player and its used in baiting him over. Seems like the answer to Van Persie’s were not ambitious argument which put AW and IG in a pretty shady spot last summer for any further dealings.

    Only other thought its a public plea for Arsene to get get the ball rolling, NOW and put down record offer for name player. The clubs backing / capital is with him and his staff to do what they will with this window.

  64. Keyser

    “Well he can’t keep to an opinion himself never mind be swayed on it.”

    and yet you drag up a quote from 6 months ago, Lol, fucking hell.

    Ivan Gazidis, I absolve thee. Who else, Paulinho.

  65. Paulinho

    Keyser – Well he’s the manager, so funnily enough yes he should get the blame when do badly or the credit when we do well.

    I give him credit when he does something well, and criticise him when he doesn’t. You on the other hand give him credit when he does something you perceive as good and when things go wrong, you look everywhere but at him.

    Make your mind up.

  66. Cesc Appeal

    Keyser

    More on the players tbh.

    I just think that would maintain out horrible status as buying young and giving young talent a platform…instead of buying already made quality to win things.

    If you asked fans Fellaini or Strootman?

    De Vrij or Rami?

    Maher or Fabregas/Gaitan?

    That’s how you’ve got to think of it I feel. No doubts those Dutch kids are all talented and will one day be extremely good, but we need already fantastic, not the potential to be a world beater…who we then sell.

  67. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    Huh? IG is not cornering Wenger publicly? Why would a 2M a year CEO with control over the club need to mouth that off in public if he knows his manager will work with him to get the players the club needs and can afford?

    And, why is it always Arsenal that needs to announce that it has funds for the manager to buy players every transfer window? Whatever the amount.

  68. Keyser

    Paulinho – You’re not answering the question, what does the club, board, Kroenke do ? For once if you stopped skirting the issue, we’ll get somewhere.

    Don’t regress now, you’re making progress, you might not like it, but you’ll feel relieved.

  69. Paulinho

    Keyser – None of them have any relevance to Wenger’s ineptitude so I don’t really care what they do.

    Like Gazidis, they’re probably all waiting on Wenger to give them the green light to get some dud from Ligue 1.

  70. Keyser

    nepGunner – “Whatever the amount.”

    All that matters is the amount. Think it through ffs.

    Gazidis gets asked questions, he’s the club’s CEO he has to give an answer, is it a co-incidence he’s started being more publically vocal now we’ve re-negotiated sponsorship deals ?

    Of course it’s fucking not, he isn’t cornering Wenger, he’s saying we’ve got X and X amount of money because we’ve completed these deals.

    The problem is back when we had the players, we sold them season upon season to turn a profit.

  71. Mayank

    Tits

    “I’m relatively new but this is growing more and more apparent.”

    Well it’s not just true of Keyser. People might change their opinions on players or specific events over time, but no one here has ever changed their opinion because they were shown the error of their ways by a fellow poster.

  72. Keyser

    Paulinho – “Keyser – None of them have any relevance to Wenger’s ineptitude so I don’t really care what they do.
    Like Gazidis, they’re probably all waiting on Wenger to give them the green light to get some dud from Ligue 1.”

    It took a while to sift through your bullshit but we got there.

    So everything’s Wenger’s fault, and no-one elses.

    Lol why the fuck didn’t you just say that from the start ? Oh, I get it to kill a bit of time. My pleasure m8. Told you, you were an AKB.

  73. Arsenal 1886-2006

    Arsene Wenger believes youngster Ryo Miyaichi has all the attributes to have a successful career at Arsenal.
    The 20-year-old Japan international spent much of last season on loan at Wigan but his progress was hampered by an ankle ligament injury.

    Miyaichi is now working on his recovery and Wenger is expecting big things from the young winger.
    “I have great hopes for Ryo because he has the traditional Japanese qualities,” Wenger told Arsenal Player.
    Japanese players technically have a very good touch, they are mobile, agile, a bit lightweight but they move well. It’s usually a player that has a great attitude towards the team.
    Ryo has a fantastic attitude for sure. He has just come out of rehab after a big knee injury, and the physios have told me they have never known an attitude like it.
    So he has those qualities, and as well he is tricky, has great pace, and works very hard.
    He has to learn to become mature tactically – shrewd tactically – but all the rest, he has.

    Asian tour coming up then…

  74. Keyser

    “but no one here has ever changed their opinion because they were shown the error of their ways by a fellow poster.”

    It’s the Le Grove way.

    It’s why TitsMcGee will tell you over and over again how much credit Tottenham deserve, and why they’re still ambitious despite selling their best players.

  75. Paulinho

    Keyser – Well that was implicit from the off, otherwise I would have mentioned them. You seem to have gotten ever dopier in the off-season if that was possible.

    Anyway, back in December you were saying ‘hopefully Wenger knows”, now it doesn’t matter, it’s all for nought anyway.

    What’s changed?

  76. Keyser

    Paulinho – Implicit ? Lol then you wouldn’t need to act surprisedwhen someone can’t see your point of view, myopic as it is, and subsequently thinks you’re an idiot when you accuse someone of being the same.

    How about you go and find when I made the quote, I really don’t trust your judgment anymore, the old Paulinho’s long gone, leaving this decrepit shell of insolence.

  77. Paulinho

    Keyser – Ha ha. Always know Keyser’s desperate when he questions whether he said something or not. Run out of tangents eh.

    And you talk about shells of insolence.

    Just continue responding to perceived myopia with more myopia to bring ‘balance’.

  78. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    Don’t you find it a tad suspicious IG publicly saying we can afford 25M players on 200K plus wages, like Rooney, which can very well encourage clubs selling to us or players coming to us to intentionally inflate their fees/wage demands ffs?

    Why would IG add more difficulties to the transfer plans of a known frugal & shrewd economist of a manager who likes to do his business as quietly as possible if they were working in tandem?

  79. Keyser

    Paulinho – Mate, you pulled up the quote, I really don’t trust your judgement, that’s all it comes down to.

    It’s been a long time since you’ve wanted a proper discussion rather than to try and get into a titfortat slanging match.

    “back to your default position of absolving him of all responsibility for absolutely everything that goes wrong with the club.”

    “None of them have any relevance to Wenger’s ineptitude so I don’t really care what they do.
    Like Gazidis, they’re probably all waiting on Wenger to give them the green light to get some dud from Ligue 1.”

  80. Ali

    Anyone read Myles Palmers latest blog? I guess his trying to wriggle out of the latest rumour his created.

  81. Keyser

    nepGunner – It would be suspicious, but to make Gazidis look a complete cunt, think about it, where was the ‘We can buy Rooney’ implications when we were selling Fabregas, or Nasri, or when we sold Van Persie. ?

    Don’t you see, he’s more vocal because he has to promote the club, he’s had to respond to us completing new deals.

  82. Paulinho

    Keyser – Like I said, respond with your own myopia as a counter.

    Be the change you want to see in the world Keyser.

  83. Paulinho

    It’s not about me, it’s about you.

    You’ve got too much of an ego and are too much of an argumentative nutjob to actually try and bring the balance you cry about so much so get off the high horse.

  84. kwik fit

    A few days ago tom called Myles palmer a Plank. Pedro questioned his assertions. I think after Palmer’s post today, tom was indeed vilified.

  85. nepGunner

    @Keyser

    I hv no clue what u r talking abt now! I thought we were discussing hw much of a control Wenger has over the club, esp the operational part of the club like playing personnel, transfers etc? You were leveling ppl who believed Wenger was in control stupid which I thought was quiet naïve considering no one besides club insiders know who is in control and who is not?

    If you are implying IG was behind the sale of players like Cesc, Nasri & RvP to balance the book, let me remind you Wenger was doing that well before IG & SK took over the steering wheel of the AFC. Also, it still doesn’t make sense IG publicly harping club’s financial capabilities in exact proportions even if we hv the means now. Why not simply do it first and talk later? Action speaks volume than talk. You say its to appease fans, but as far as I know, most fans would rather appreciate actual transfer happening than the CEO simply give a nice public speech and do sod all. If its not to put pressure on a stubborn dithering man, I def can’t conceive what else it is for?

  86. Inter YourGran

    Q&A in a bit 😆 should be a giggle with all the usual political suave charm from Ivan…

    Enough talk already…

    Bring me Rooney

  87. kwik fit

    Bastian Schweinsteiger: “Arsenal is the only Club that has scared me.” Nice one Bastian but lets hope wenger doesn’t quote him tonight.

  88. Paulinho

    Keyser – What was the question?

    You could’t have a non tit-for-tat conversation if your life depended on it.

  89. Marko

    Strootman and Maher yes please. And who knows what’ll happen with Cesc now. I’m guessing it won’t be done till after the Confed Cup. And maybe the links to Gaitan are we’re looking elsewhere? Both super links though but that’s all it is at the moment.

  90. tom

    Anelke to Madrid was excellant business but it was a forced sale.
    It predicted what has become a pattern and taught Wenger an unhappy truth.
    Arsenal players are vulnerable.
    Bigger, richer clubs will always have the power to lure away our players and there is not a lot we can do to prevent it.

  91. tom

    Arsenal’s wage policy and bloated squad are both symptoms of the clubs battle to hold on to it’s assets.
    Tough business.

  92. Evan

    “Bigger, richer clubs will always have the power to lure away our players and there is not a lot we can do to prevent it.”

    That’s why we sell players for sporting reasons

  93. Keyser

    nepGunner – “I thought we were discussing hw much of a control Wenger has over the club, esp the operational part of the club like playing personnel, transfers etc?”

    This is my quote :

    The stupidity of people who believe Wenger controls everything while, an entire board, a CEO on nearly 2 million pounds a year and 2 different Billionaires do nothing but twiddle their thumbs is mind boggling.

    I think you should pay more attention to what people actually say, do you want to change your thoughts ?

    The world doesn’t stop turning while Gazidis negotiates new deals, do you pay attention to the monumental amounts of shite that come through newsnow or other media streams ? Do you really think Gazidis was going to remain completely quiet no matter what ?!

    You do know that when Wenger and the players give interviews they have an obligation to do so, as does Gazidis to talk up new revenue streams and new sponsorship deals, mate the whole point of them sponsoring us if for marketing, who sponsors teams shirts and says’ don’t worry leave it blank if you want’, Gazidis is obligated to speak out and address the media.

  94. SUGA3

    tom,

    it’s nonsense, we can easily afford to pay top money to top players, if a ‘lesser’ player moans about it, it’s a win-win, you can tell him to work for a rise or sell him more easily…

  95. tom

    Wenger and AFC board are equally responsible for pretty much everything to do with how the club is run.
    None of us know exactly who does what.

  96. nepGunner

    “Bigger, richer clubs will always have the power to lure away our players and there is not a lot we can do to prevent it.”

    So we actually are a selling club and academy to nourish future stars of richer bigger club. Glad that could be cleared. On the contrary I thought it was to balance our books and show we are a sustainable “organic” business model.

  97. tom

    Manchester United are a bigger club. Perhaps Liverpool. Chelsea and City are richer and so more powerful but are still small historically.

  98. Paulinho

    Keyser – Gist of a question is a start. Next time you can maybe ask a full one with a question mark and everything.

  99. tom

    Arsenal are a selling club. Can’t be denied.
    However there are only a handful of clubs that have the power to force our hand.

  100. TitsMcgee

    “IT’s why TitsMcGee will tell you over and over again how much credit Tottenham deserve, and why they’re still ambitious despite selling their best players.”

    …and you claim you aren’t burnt up about that quote?

    LMAO You obviously have nightmares about it.

    All of that anger and bitterness because somebody gave the Spurs credit?

    LMAO. Wow. You just exposed yourself.

  101. Keyser

    TitsMcGee – Gets you everytime. Please give Tottenham credit, please, pretty please, I promise I support Arsenal. I do, really.

  102. TitsMcgee

    “Well it’s not just true of Keyser. People might change their opinions on players or specific events over time, but no one here has ever changed their opinion because they were shown the error of their ways by a fellow poster.”

    May or may not be true as I have not been here long enough but I have been here long enough to notice that Keyser will dig out the deepest corner of his arse to justify/male an excuse to suit specific situations.

    It’s pretty cut and dry really.

    Every blog has somebody like that though.

  103. TitsMcgee

    Keyser thinks he’s the smartest person in the room and that everyone else is too stupid to notice his excuse-making and dithering around certain topics.

    Changing the narrative of the topic and hoping that nobody noticed.

    Arguing semantics and going around and around in circles until the original argument is lost then asks

    “What’s your point?”

    LOL

    Wash.Rinse.Repeat.

    Now maybe you fool some of the lads on here but you certainly don’t fool me with your agenda-driven style of posting.

  104. TitsMcgee

    Jeff,

    Is that really Arsene? It can’t be. No way lol

    If it is then God help all Arsenal fans because we’re screwed.