Arsenal land what I hope is a 3rd choice striker…

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Morning boys and girls. Today it feels like there’s less news than there was yesterday, so instead of making something up, I’m going to first throw up, then work with what I have.

The story that gripped me by the ‘what have I achieved’ part of my neck was the one about Josh Kroenke and his first dalliance into the media to talk about Arsenal and his love of football. He’s 31 years old. He’s going to run our club at some point. What is the world coming to folks?

Then guess what. I read that this article was two years old. So I thought, you know what, forget about it. He’s 33 now. He could definitely run Arsenal now.

Onto more current mutterings. The Mail are running the Wayne Rooney story again this morning. Serious talks internally have begun and they’re trying to thrash out how they can bank roll his move. I’m guessing the sums look a little like this.

Chamakh £75k
Squillaci £60k
Denilson £55k
Andrey £90k

Boom. We’ve covered it boys.

I’m still not quite sure why we haven’t just released these players earlier. Why can’t we just give them free transfers? Surely it would make sense to take them off the books and give the squad a bit of a clean out? I mean, why not offer them severance pay? Seems silly to keep them on for 5 years at a time.

Still, just because we’re looking at big names, doesn’t mean the bargain basement of France has lost its appeal. Apparently we’re close to landing Auxerre front man Yaya Sanogo. He’s tall, he’s French-African and he’s banged in a few goals in Ligue 2. I’ve no idea about quality. Wenger loves taking players who have the raw ingredients… then moulding them. See Adebayor for a prime example of that in action.

As long as that isn’t our striking options done… then I can deal with it. Hopefully he’s fast.

Right, I have to leave this now… as I have a sh*t tonne of work on. More tomorrow.

See you in the comments.

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  1. Romford Pele

    1886,

    Nope. Another pointless signing but people got excited because he could run fast and chuck a few step-overs

  2. Harry Redknapp

    its not about when we signed him nasri, its about what we could have been doin with that spot in the squad, who would it have really benefitted? we both knew me and you, that chamakh was not gonna do a thing. but if one of them youths had that chance and accidently grabbed a goal with a five in a 5 minute run out?

  3. Harry Redknapp

    everyone has know that chamakh and arshavin were retired the last year and a half. wenger wasnt gonna use them and they werent gonna be used. wenger placed them in the squads to stop stan askin him why the fuck he is payin these monkeys, it was not for footballin reasons. that was a fukkin kick in the teeth to project youth.

  4. Harry Redknapp

    any cunt happy to pull on the shirt should have been higher up the pecking order than squilachi arshavin and chamakh

  5. Nasri's Mouth

    @harry Redknapp

    Sticking players on when the game is safe and already won isn’t really putting them into a competitive environment, nor while it give them much playing time, (how often are we 3-0 up with 30 minutes to go). Better that we find a team for them where they can start games, play the full 90 minutes, and get a proper feel for the next level of competitive football. If they work out, brilliant, if they don’t they move on to their natural level

  6. andy1886

    Ever heard the saying “you can’t polish a turd’? Well, if there’s a turd polish salesman out there somewhere he must be beating his way to AW’s door as we speak. Must be his very best customer.

  7. Harry Redknapp

    nasri of course it is. every player at arsenal has a bag of talent, even chamakh, its the ones who can produce it infront of a crowd, you dont win titles on the training ground. you have to blood players slow. its much easier than startin at old trafford out the blue believe me. its about gaining confidence. this current team is not strong enough to really forward the growth of youths, its best players have come out the youths. look at the bottlers their all french and bought, yet we rely on jack to push us forward

  8. Nasri's Mouth

    @Harry Redknapp

    well, let’s not argue about it. If he’s playing regularly for a top 6 PL side in 2 years, then maybe we missed out. I just don’t believe he will.

    Like I say, it’s a shame, he clearly had the talent, just not the attitude, and I’m not the only one to think that

  9. Marko

    I suppose a small compensation fee and small wage and see if this Sanogo guy can stay fit is what it’s about really. Highly doubt that all the talk of us signing Jovetic and being interested in Higuain was so that we could sneak in and sign some kid from Ligue 2.
    Also I really hope we don’t go for Rooney I can see it biting us in the ass that one and if we’re willing to spend that kind of money on him we should look better. Just waiting for the season to end so the transfer season can start cause this summer will be busy for everyone concerned

  10. SurferX

    @Arse&Nose.

    Completely different:

    a) He is only just 20. How many games would you expect someone to play in the first team between the age of 16-19?

    b) He fractured his tibia 2 seasons ago- which basically meant his stats all come from two seasons- not 4.

    c) Diaby is a 27 year old train-wreck of an injury profile. How you can say its worse is beyond me.

    Finally, so what? As I said, this signing is completely irrelevant: unless he has been brought in as something more than a 3rd choice striker. If he has, as I said- Groundhog Day!

  11. Harry Redknapp

    if you consider what cesc and robin walked into to, im sure that was a lot easier than what jack has walked into. we aint even got a striker who wants to stick the ball away ,i would gladly see afobe or akpom on the bench they wouldnt bottle it and forget how to stand up like gerv, to me jack being the standout youth, im sure simular bottle at least runs throughout the ones who have grown up at the club

  12. Gunner4Life

    I don’t see what all the kerfuffle is over signing a youngster. It is not the end of our summer activity-hopefully. Hey you never know, he may succeed or he may fail, it is not always easy to tell who can step up the grade.

    Our first team squad is filled with players brought in as youngsters or developed at the club who have gone on to become internationals (Gibbs, Walcott, Ox, Wilshere, Ramsey, Schezney, Jenkinson). Not to mention guys that we developed and went elsewhere, Clichy, Cole, Toure, Ade, Song, Cesc etc.

  13. Harry Redknapp

    he had a bad attitude i agree nasri, and i agree its not an argument but chamakh had a great attitude. lol i just think that its very hard for a young player when they leave arsenal because from the smallest 6 year olds to the first team their all trained to play the exact same way. their not prepared as all round footballers. its all tappy tappy dont shoot. the ones who shoot go out on loan or get pushed out wide. the system is badly flawed and when they get released or go on loan their one dimensional and go into shock when they see a lumpy training ground an too much set piece practice.

  14. N5

    As you mention it, any idea of the price of local fish!!
    lol

    ————————-

    Ha ha mystic you cheeky sod!

    @NM fair point about Chamakh’s wage mate.

  15. Harry Redknapp

    the main thing about jet though was he was never released they wanted him to stay he wanted to go. its simular with quite a lot of the young players we see from sidwell to larsson to lansbury none of them were pushed they just lost faith

  16. Harry Redknapp

    gunners4life we aint fussed at signing a kid, but were talkin a 21 year old now. thats the age you release them or play them .

  17. Nasri's Mouth

    @Harry Redknapp

    Sidwell, Larsson, Lansbury, all decent players, all not good enough for us though. We could have kept them all longer, given them more chances, they still wouldn’t have made it. They left and found their proper level.

  18. Harry Redknapp

    if he is our 3rd choice im disgusted, i thought giroud was meant to be that next season lol

  19. Harry Redknapp

    lol nasri, you never know mate. larson played one game, a north london derby,scored got man of the match, never seen again. but denilson on the other hand, 200 games in a stronger team than what we have now? is this not settin an alarm bell off

  20. AJ

    ‘Nasri’s Mouth May 17, 2013 12:15:56

    @Harry Redknapp

    Sidwell, Larsson, Lansbury, all decent players, all not good enough for us though.’
    ———————————————————————————————–
    Are you not the same guy that defends ramsey every week?

  21. Harry Redknapp

    when do i defend ramsey? ramsey is not a bad player. thats another one who has been given 100 games to come good.

  22. Harry Redknapp

    oh sorry AJ thought that was for me lol. i think ramsey is a good player but lansbury play any position on the pitch and do a decent job.

  23. Harry Redknapp

    i reckon if afobe or akpom had a good run of 5 -10 minute appearnces, couple cup starts ,a little luck . either one would be a good 4th 5th choice.

  24. AJ

    Harry
    That’s the point(which you have been making too). You cannot really say anything until you give them a chance.

  25. AJ

    NM
    All those ‘currently better’ arguments were not valid once. You cannot say all the players that have not had the chances are bad.

  26. Harry Redknapp

    imagine this, two years ago he mumiliated himself beggin clichy to stay. then he had to talk gibbs up like he wanted to play him. he was just too tight. its embarrasing

  27. Johnny5

    What the fuck!

    Woke up to news were signing some sonogo dude from ligue 1 and a daily mail rehashing of the Wayne Rooney story.

    I’ve got a bad feeling about this shit man! I really hope it’s not going to turn into one if the usual summers were used to.

    I thought we were looking at higuain, benteke, Rooney etc proven players not bargain basement. If this dude comes it seems like there’ll be less room for a top signing.

  28. gambon

    So lets get this right…..Spurs are offering Gareth Bale £150k per week, yet half the mugs on here insist we cant afford to pay that, despite making £100m pa more than Spurs, and having a wage bill thats £50m bigger.

  29. Nasri's Mouth

    @AJ

    When those players leave us and get ‘a chance’ somewhere else, and end up at Championship level or mid to bottom PL clubs, then yes I can. You can bang on about them as much as you like, but if other top clubs are not interested in them, then neither should we be.

    You seem to forget that these players are seen in training, in youth games, in reserve games by people much more able than you and I. The coaches know which ones need to leave, which ones are worth keeping on for another season, need to be pushed to the next level. You’re colouring your view with the fact they’re English,(Irish in the case of Stokes) and have been with the club for years. Sentimentality doesn’t help the team.

  30. TitsMcgee

    LMAO

    19 career appearances for a Ligue 2 side and Wenger brings him to Arsenal.

    French? Yep
    Cheap? Yep
    Project? Yep
    Untested? Yep
    Lazy? Yep

    Christ.

  31. Marko

    Giroud will be back up next season not 3rd choice he was the french leagues top scorer and has hit double figures in his opening season I highly doubt we’ll bring in 2 strikers unless him or Podolski left. By 2 strikers I mean Jovetic AND Higuain who we’ve been linked with. Sanogo is just another starlet we’re taking a chance on. He could be another Eisfeld or Campbell or he could be another Bischoff as in he might make it in a couple years or never make it. All irrelevant if there’s a takeover and/or we splash the cash

  32. Harry Redknapp

    a player will not grow without opportunity. i remember adams took a lot of stick his first couple years. ramseys improvement now is simular to what young players all go through. a couple years ago jack had a mare in one of his first games against west ham. alex song fulham away. you gotta be patient but this is when your gervinhos and girouds should be doing the business but nah they need a few hundred games and will probably get them.

  33. gambon

    Afobe has no chance at Arsenal.

    At 16 he was way ahead of the curve, at 17 ditto, but now hes injured and hes fallen too far behind.

    The guy will probably not even be a PL striker.

  34. KJafc

    Interesting post.
    Players contracts – interesting subject.

    I absolutely agree that we have some rubbish on our books, players that have been earning too much money because of the socialist wage policy. Pay players what they are worth for starters. However, if only it was as simple as that.

    What happens when a players original worth devalues because he stops performing at the level required? Say you agree £100k per week (£5.2m per annum) on a five year deal. Before the ink is dry he is guaranteed his obscene wages (£25 million). If you break his contract you pay up. You cannot sell him because nobody else wants him because he is rubbish or will pay the wages he is already on/demanding.

    If he’s injured, full pay no SSP nonsense.

    Now if we fail to perform at work, chances are we get a warning and ultimately end up out of a job.

    Say they are performing at the top of their game, perhaps banging in the goals or whatever, two things will happen:

    1. They will demand more money. The fans will say – pay him what he wants, pay him what he wants. If the club refuses, the fans will get on the clubs back.

    2. An illegal offer is made via the unscrupulous agent. The player suddenly appears unhappy, home sick or whatever excuse. ‘You can’t keep an unhappy player everyone says”. Sell him.

    Ultimately, the player gets his way, unless the club plays hard ball and keeps an unhappy player.

    These contracts are virtually worthless to the club and fans, they are a win win for the players.

    Pedro suggests you offload the players on a free. Sounds fine but if they don’t want to leave they are going nowhere. They are under contract. If the ‘buying’ club aren’t prepared to pay the wages the player demands, you are stuffed.

    Player power and player wages are the problem. That is why they are such a disloyal, self serving, badge kissing bunch.

    Rant over but we need a solution as the more money that comes into football ends up going to the players. It could do far more in the community or at grass roots level.

  35. Harry Redknapp

    but they choose teams who will give them first team football nasri lol. they are not leaving for the glamour

  36. AJ

    I am not arguing in favour of English players, there is also Coquelin who as been neglected, and without much evidence considered inferior to Ramsey again ‘at the moment’ or ‘currently’. Ramsey has lucked out big time then with so many appearances, especially last season.

  37. Marko

    Gambon who said we can’t pay 100,000 a week. I think we can and if we want someone like Higuain or Jovetic we’ll have to pay them that sort of money. Players who I’d sign and give that sort of money to would be one of Jovetic or Higuain, Hamsik (Isco would be cheaper) and Hummels (offer 24 and pay him 100,000 a week).

  38. useroz

    Rumours similar to Yaya Sanogo are depressing and won’t go away so long as Wenger remains in charge. Ok if we pay these guys 5k pw just hope to realise their potential for 2 – 3 years…nothing more than CSR work.

    Wenger is like some millionaire weirdos loving to shop at $2 shops and discount stores to find bargains or seconds…thinking they would find antiques or something…sick people.

  39. sylvain

    Ah ah!!
    “In Arsene we trust”!!

    That’s pathetic, his obession for young players will definitely sink our club sooner or later…

  40. Harry Redknapp

    i agree with gambon. but in afobes case wenger either has to release him this year or say stay for a year. no more loans. loans dont work. and before people say jack, the only reason he got games was because of ramsey and cesc being injured and that spanish kid pissin off to athletico. bolton fans thought they would get jack for a million quid

  41. Nasri's Mouth

    @Harry Redknapp

    they’re choosing the best team they can get into and play regularly, IE, their level.

    If Lansbury had the chance of playing for Chelsea, even someone like West Ham do you think he’d have picked Forest ? Absolutely not.

  42. useroz

    By the way, we already have 3rd, 4th and 5th choice strikers in our first team so why bother buying any??

    We must look for 1st and 2nd strikers!!!

  43. Harry Redknapp

    nasri thats your verdict. their young and addaptin to life outside their mothers care. they become players no youths. its a step it can take a while for it to happen for themm. most would look comfy playing the bottom half of the prem. but the prem is about BUYS.

  44. gambon

    KJA

    “In the community”

    Why should the money that the players generate go to the community?

    “grass roots”

    Bollocks, they get a cut, they dont deserve any more, once again, the reason there is so much money in the game is due to the massive TV contracts, which are a result of huge international viewing figures, which are a result of the excitement created by the players…….therefore the money absolutely should go to the players.

    As for the rest of what you said…..it only seems to be Arsenal that are stacked with dross, other clubs that have a normal wage system dont seem to struggle.

  45. Harry Redknapp

    signing a 21 year old to treat him like a youth would be like killing akpom. this guy is our new chamakh

  46. monty

    Sonogo to arsenal. Really? God Wenger has to go hope we get Europa,cuz that’s were our players belong.pathetic

  47. Gunner4Life

    Harry Redknapp you are right in that young players need to be blooded, by playing ten minutes here and there and an occasional cup run etc. The problem is we have rarely been comfortable in games or our league position to run the risk of playing a young player. Often we are still chasing a result or desperately defending a one goal lead despite having 60% possesion.

    The other problem is Wegner is very poor at rotation of the team, also he has his favourites and plays them all the time.

  48. Herkules

    Sorry Pedro… I can’t see anyone agreeing to pay Denilson, Chamakh, or Bendtner what we are paying them now… So those wages are unlikely to come off the books.

    Hopefully i’m wrong.

    Leaving this Summer:
    Squid
    Arshavin
    Fabianski

    Maybe being sold in the Summer:
    Sagna
    Gervinho

  49. gambon

    Harry Redknapp

    I dont agree, loands do work, they are basically the only option.

    You cant afford to give someone like Akpom first team games to see if hes good enough, its too much of a risk, and you need at least half a season regular playing to see if someones got the ability.

    the problem is people are way too sentimental with youth players.

    You see a guy go out to League one and play very very average football, but because hes an Arsenal man everyone wants to give him a chance.

    You should treat a loan player as a scouting target like any other player.

    If you wouldnt sign them you shouldnt give them a chance.

  50. Harry Redknapp

    Gunner4life then we need to either look at why were not comfortable or get rid of the players who are makin hard work of games that should be won and won well. our buys are mid table, apart from santi the rest have not been batter than what we had, so whats the point in buying them? it sets us up to fail.

  51. Nasri's Mouth

    @Harry Redknapp

    It’s not just my verdict though. Lansbury for example was on loan at West Ham, they knew all about him. If he was good enough to play for a middle of the league PL side, they’d have offered him a deal. The fact he then went to play for a championship side speaks volumes. And Lansbury doesn’t strike me as someone just leaving his mother’s care to be honest either.
    He’s a decent bloke, a hard worker on the pitch, he just doesn’t quite have that little bit extra that turns someone from a decent player into a top class one.

    Going back to Sanogo, he might just have it or he might not, he might turn even turn out to be injury prone. The point is he’s free, (the compensation will be minimal) and he’ll be on low wages. He’s a possibility.

    And if the club are planning things right this summer than signing him makes no difference to whether or not we sign top players like Higuain/ Jovetic and others. If they’re not planning things right, then Higuain / Jovetic (or similar) was never on the cards in the first place. IE this signing changes nothing.

    And further to that, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if our next signing was another kid. For example another 16yr old from Barcelona.

  52. gambon

    Herkules

    We could easily get all 3 off the books.

    They all have one year left on their contract, so whatever fee we can get for them we can give straight to the player as a pay off.

    We will easily get £5m for them 3 combined, all of which can be used to pay them.

    We wont raise any money, but we will remove them from the wage bill.

  53. Harry Redknapp

    we sold cesc nasri and robin in the last year and a half or two. we raplced them with arteta a number 10 who we turned into a defensive player, gervinho a guy who was not even as good as his back up (ox who has been terrible himself) and giroud a handsome chap who speaks the language but looks like john terry on the ball. thank god for santi.

  54. Inter YourGran

    I think everyone needs to calm down a bit. The Auxerre signing will only appear in next gen and the 1st round of the Carling Cup….

    On 2nd thoughts this is Wenger..

  55. gambon

    Inter

    How can 20 year old Sanogo play in the U19 next gen.

    This cunt will probably be captain next season.

  56. Harry Redknapp

    nasri it wouldnt suprise me either signing another kid. but no one knows what we would have got from lansbury either. lansbury has a few years to grow now. we grow them fast but were a selling club its our business to push them on and peak them early.

  57. Tim

    Yaya Sanogo is actually very very talented. Much better than Adebayor, Chamakh and Joel Campbell. Definitely one for the future, maybe in 3 years he’ll be the best striker in the EPL. That I promise.

    Anyway, not a short term solution.

  58. Marko

    I wouldn’t be suprised if Usmanov made a move this summer which would kind of make signing Sanogo minor.

  59. Romford Pele

    Redknapp – You’re a tit. Arteta has never played the role just behind the striker. He’s a CM. That’s different to a number 10. Youre’ laughable.

  60. Harry Redknapp

    theres no transfer window for usmanov to make a move, the man has had all the time in the world. we got more chance of stan i reckon for the next couple years.

  61. Nasri's Mouth

    @Harry Redknapp

    Sidwell and Larsson have had that time to grow. They’re not at our level.

    I’d expect us to sign several kids (or players with potential) and 2-3 players challenging for 1st team places.

  62. Johnny5

    This guy is obviously chamackhs replacement but we still have

    Giroud
    Theo
    Poldi
    Gerv

    Unless one of them leaves I can’t see wenger buying in another striker. Unless he’s had enough of gerv or something or is selling theo.

  63. Ramsey's backpass

    I think cahill was the ‘8’,playing behind saha and arteta ’10’

    i believe when using a 4-3-3 formation,the player who plays the box to box role is the ’10’

  64. azed

    TimMay 17, 2013 13:06:32
    Yaya Sanogo is actually very very talented. Much better than Adebayor, Chamakh and Joel Campbell. Definitely one for the future, maybe in 3 years he’ll be the best striker in the EPL. That I promise.

    Tim
    Just like Cesc, Denilson, Diaby, Song,Traore, Aladeire(sp), Djourou, Merida, Lupoli, Bischoff were the future?

  65. Harry Redknapp

    nah your wrong pele. it depends if you play a player behind the striker. your caught up in the dennis bergkamp effect

  66. Nasri's Mouth

    @johnny5

    I’d be very surprised if Bendtner comes back. Chamakh will be off too.

    Realistically we have Giroud as a striker and that’s it. If we do sign Sanogo he won’t be 2nd choice for us next season.

  67. lord snotty

    When will Wenger learn that signing French dropouts and paying them far too much money will get us nowhere! We need experienced players, those blooded in the EPL, players with a bit of muscle, born leaders and NOT yet more dross from the French league 2.

    And we need to find a manager who is a winner, not a LOSER!

    WENGER OUT!!

  68. Harry Redknapp

    so cahill a player only known for being able to jump to high is the number 10? are you tellin me that, while the man who oulls the most strings is a mere number 6? 4? 5? arteta is a number 10.

  69. TitsMcgee

    Put me down in the “Rooney will never come here camp”….I’d be shocked if Rooney came here for two reasons:

    1. He knows we aren’t serious about winning.
    2. Wenger doesn’t like players he couldn’t control.

  70. Harry Redknapp

    i first saw arteta at rangers. he was acertain number 10 for them. he has lost a lot of spark due to injurys. really he was too loyal to everton. but i respect that.

  71. MadeToLoveMagic

    Wenger being interviewed by his wife after a poor shag,


    I am peronally extremely ‘appy with my performance tonight, I believe I showed a great fighting spirit and mental strengz throughout. There were times when I lacked maybe some composure in the final third, but vis can ‘appen, especially after a tough romp in midweek

    I think in the first half I had the handbrake on maybe a little too much, vat I can accept, but by ze end I believe that I showed all the necessary qualities I needed to pull through, and i was a bit unlucky. There were a few chances to finish things off towards the end, but unfortunately i couldn’t manage it, but in terms of character, commitment and willingness to fight for the cause I can cannot question my performance tonight

    Vis is now a good opportunity for me to go away, regroup and come back stronger and more resilient van before ‘aving learned maybe a few difficult lessons.

    I have an important romp on Sunday, and vat is what I must work towards. Sankyou very much

  72. Romford Pele

    Pulling the strings does not make you a number 10 Redknapp. So every player that wears number 10 is a playmaker? Going by your logic, Gallas was a playmaker then?

    Arteta was their creative hub, but that doesn’t make him a number 10. And plus, there are different types of creativity anyway. Arteta is more a deep-lying playmaker rather than 10 who plays penetrating balls and scores goals.

  73. KJafc

    Gambon

    Absolutely disagree. The money the players get is obscene. You and I rarely agree, so glad nothing has changed.

    Football was a working mans sport – it is no longer. A lot of people I know can no longer afford to pay to take their family to games. That is wrong.

    Ultimately, the biggest cost a club has is players wages. There is absolutely no moral justification for a player to be earning this sort of money on contracts that are one sided. Seriously, the very average Danny Wellbeck on £75k per week (£3.9 million) per year. If he plays crap, he still gets his money. Wrong.

    I get the argument that it is an entertainment industry but at the end of the day fans are paying the players wages. Whether that be through TV subscription, merchandising, match day fees , sponsorship etc this money is generated by us, people. Where does it end.

    Perhaps if the players showed a bit more loyalty and there was less greed I would be more accepting. But if my auntie had bollocks she would be my uncle.

  74. Arse&Nose©

    SurferX, good points but you are coming from the optimistic angle that this is a consequence free gamble of a signing.

    My fear, and cynism about the deal stems from the past when a deal like this will go from –

    June 1st
    “a free gamble,worth a risk, young one for the future”

    to

    August 31st
    ” we can’t sign strikers because we have player X now and we don’t want to ‘kill’ him”

  75. Harry Redknapp

    lol by my login a goal scorer is a number 9. (or at arsenal it should be the number 8) the number ten is reserved for the flare, cesc was always a number 10 so was dennis. robin for me was never a ten, he just wanted to be dennis and now he will be wearing the famous rooney shirt next year as well lol

  76. Gunner4Life

    Just like Lansbury there have been many young players that showed promise who either left or where sold, I might be forgetting someone, but I can’t think of anyone making it big elsewhere. Bently, Upson, Larson all showed great promise, and are good players, just not very good players.

    And so what if this Sonogo guy is 21. Players bloom at different ages, Drogba didn’t show his promise until he was 24, he signed for Chelski at 26. Arsenal fans are all too familar with the damage he caused after that.

  77. Ramsey's backpass

    So in our last match against wigan

    who was our 10 and what was ramsey’s position,we know arteta was the 4

  78. Harry Redknapp

    but even caz is not at the cesc or dennis level. but he is workin with a lot of deadbeats.

  79. N5

    That comment was in regards to londons got better hookers tho Titsmcgee. and less rapsists in our squad, sorry forgot to quote it.

  80. Herkules

    Gambon… I agree it gets easier to move them in the last year of their contracts…

    However – lets say Chamkah finds a club willing to pay 15 and we are in for 75 now.. Thats still 60k a week… Or more than 3 million a year. Hard to picture being able to offset that with a transfer fee.

    Anyhow… Good news is that we’re ALMOST done with them and we haven’t made an atrocious buy for a few years now.

  81. Harry Redknapp

    ramsey played ok against wigan he was our box to box. he had a viera moment infront of goal . he had plenty ramsey moments though.

  82. Nasri's Mouth

    Sanogo is actually 20 not 21, and he’s missed 18 months through injuries

    People therefore make the inevitable comparisons with Diaby.

    But he could just as easily have a similar fitness pattern to Ramsey now he’s recovered.

    Either way, as long as he’s not paid silly money to start with, and I see no reason why he should be, then he’s a good buy

  83. Harry Redknapp

    imagine if it can all come out against jimmy saville and them. robin and johny evans must be losing sleep

  84. Harry Redknapp

    i just wanna know what stan will say when he looks at arsenes shoppin list see’s sanogo, new contract for diaby and bid 2mill tops for benzema as arsenes wishlist for the summer

  85. gambon

    NM

    “Either way, as long as he’s not paid silly money to start with, and I see no reason why he should be”

    Thats a pretty terrible comment considering the way Wenger does things.

    At the end of the day we’re signing someone whos at League 1 level.

    I didnt see Wenger trying to buy Jordan Rhodes, did you?

    Hes just completely obsessed with unearthing the next French African talent, completely obsessed.

  86. Harry Redknapp

    can feel one of footballs biggest paycuts coming on for chamakh, even alex manninger earned more as a farmer after leaving us

  87. Evan

    Skysports Sanogo : The highly-rated striker, 20, has scored nine goals in just 11 league appearances for the Ligue 2 outfit.

  88. Harry Redknapp

    i think jordan rhodes would have been a good signing for us. that boy knows where the net is.

  89. Nasri's Mouth

    @Gambon

    we’re signing someone who could make it at a higher level for free, (or minimal compensation). We don’t generally sign players of his age on big wages, so why would we give him a big salary?

  90. Harry Redknapp

    whats big wages though? if this kid has potential he aint leaving france for less than 15 a week.

  91. MadeToLoveMagic

    Wenger being interviewed by his wife after a poor shag,”

    I am peronally extremely ‘appy with my performance tonight, I believe I showed a great fighting spirit and mental strengz throughout. There were times when I lacked maybe some composure in the final third, but vis can ‘appen, especially after a tough romp in midweek

    I think in the first half I had the handbrake on maybe a little too much, vat I can accept, but by ze end I believe that I showed all the necessary qualities I needed to pull through, and was a bit unlucky. There were a few chances to finish things off towards the end, but unfortunately i couldn’t manage it, but in terms of character, commitment and willingness to fight for the cause I can cannot question my performance tonight

    Vis is now a good opportunity for me to go away, regroup and come back stronger and more resilient van before ‘aving learned maybe a few difficult lessons. I have an important romp on Sunday, and vat is what I must work towards. Sankyou very much…….

  92. TitsMcgee

    “Hes just completely obsessed with unearthing the next French African talent, completely obsessed.”

    Certainly seems that way.

  93. Nasri's Mouth

    @Nemesis.

    Apparently he’s going in the summer.

    Either down to health and age reasons, or because there’s a bit of a change going on, depending to which theory/rumour you want to believe.

  94. N5

    Had Yaya sanogo in FM 12 and he was a beast.Just saying!!!!

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    I can get shot 5 times on COD and still come back to play, so I assume in real life I can die and come back……Just saying!!!!!!!!!

  95. reality check

    maybe in 3 years he’ll be the best striker in the EPL. That I promise

    @tom your just taking the piss now.

    In 3 years. 3 years!! AKBs talk as if the world freezes while Arsenal players grow and progress. Where will hazard be in 3? Oscar neymar, Kun, jack. All these guys who are better than our targets now, will most likely still be better in 3. So even if he improves, he’s still behind!

    It makes no sence.

    We have plenty players we hope will improve over time. Why buy more?

    Ah, coz wenger knows right. Everybody else is guessing but wenger knows the future for sure right?

    Jeez..

  96. TitsMcgee

    I can get shot 5 times on COD and still come back to play, so I assume in real life I can die and come back……Just saying!!!!!!!!!

    LOL

  97. SurferX

    Arse&Nose©May 17, 2013 14:20:28
    SurferX, good points but you are coming from the optimistic angle that this is a consequence free gamble of a signing. My fear, and cynism about the deal stems from the past…
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    None of which I disagree with. I can understand the cynicism- and largely I share it. However, it doesn’t make the signing wrong.

    What’s wrong is the over-reliance on youth (aka project youth); the inability to move on sins of the past (aka Denilson, Bendtner, Nunchucks, etc); the lack of investment between 2006-2011 in players that could make an impact at the level we need to be. They’re the mistakes- for the past two years AW has reaped what he sowed. He can continue to with his post-Cesc policy again this summer; but whether he does so or not is entirely debatable.

    So, again- this is completely irrelevant as a piece of business. It won’t solve immediate problems next year- I’ve been sold the future long enough. Anything Sanogo does in the next 3 years is a bonus as far as Im concerned. If he turned out to be Messi but we still bought no-one else is doesn’t prove the AW is a genius: it proves that he is still gambling and making the same mistakes he has for 10 years (over-reliance on unproven talent).

    We’ll see.

  98. N5

    So, again- this is completely irrelevant as a piece of business. It won’t solve immediate problems next year- I’ve been sold the future long enough. Anything Sanogo does in the next 3 years is a bonus as far as Im concerned. If he turned out to be Messi but we still bought no-one else is doesn’t prove the AW is a genius: it proves that he is still gambling and making the same mistakes he has for 10 years (over-reliance on unproven talent).

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    Well said!