Cut price keeper deal in the offing | Arsenal race to make moves early | Oxo-Chambo-mad

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Welcome to Friday. The sunshine has gone home just in time for the weekend. Typical.

Still, lots of rumours and counter rumours to get stuck into this morning. The first one that’s doing the rounds and feels like it has a lot of realism to it is the story that Arsenal are in talks to nab Jovetic. The £24m man looks like he could be the first deal of the summer as Arsenal look to bulk out their less than glamorous striking department.

There’s also talk that we could be after Rene Adler of Hamburg. I can’t be sure, but I think he’s been the German number one before, he’s 28 and he’s known for being a big character. He’d be a quality signing and he does come from the German league, which we all now know is the greatest league on the planet. The reason we’re not interested in Mignolet or Begovic is becuase they’ve both had £15m price tags slapped on them. Wenger, still clearly operating on the 1998 pricing model he so dearly loves.

Adler got down to the last two, but Geoge Clooney eventually won out for the Tassimmo brand ambassador role

A team famed for creating their own pricing model are Chelsea and Wenger has spoken of his fear about what they could do this summer…

‘I’m afraid of what Chelsea can do in the summer. We have to be prepared for them to be one of the biggest  movers in terms of investment.’

‘I think they will be busy during the transfer window. We’ve heard a lot of talk about Falcao. Some people say it’s already a done deal but I’ve heard nothing.’

Well, it’ll be no surprise if Chelsea invest big this summer, they always do. The idea that they might bring in Falcao really is a scary one. The idea that Mourinho might come back is a scary one because with their squad and more investment, we really could find ourselves a long way off. United are looking to bring in Lewandowski. City will no doubt buy up everyone. Liverpool will sell Suarez and invest as will all the other clubs around us.

This summer, without investment, we’re going nowhere. Weneger shouldn’t really be fearing what Chelsea might do… because he has the best part of £120m to spend if he fancied it. His cash budget must be one of the highest in the league. Clubs should be fearing what we’re planning to do. So far, it’s looking like Jovetic and Ashley Williams (his agent has been spotted at our training ground) are close, throw in a keeper and we’re starting to make inroads. If we tie down Sagna, that’d be a massive bonus as well.

Sometimes you look at a quote and you think, jeez, that’s so damn uninspiring I don’t even know what to do with it.

“That’s where we’ve improved the most. It’s very important for the confidence of the team that we have such a [defensive] stability.

“As I said many times, we are an offensive team, but you are only a good offensive team if you have a good defensive stability. In the last two months that was much better.”

I mean, it’s both logical and true. Frustrating. Dull. A little bit text book. I mean, what am I supposed to do with that quote?

Having a good defence gives you confidence. Nice that this realisation is being actioned I guess. From what I understand, Wenger hasn’t relinquished too much power over the defence. I think he’s just given more focus himself to putting it right. Still, if the outcome is positive, who cares. 3rd best defence in the league this year. Mega. We’re 14 goals clear of our shocking turn defensive performance of last season… however, we’re 9 goals short of our total scored from last year. Can we make that up? Well, we do have Newcastle… so you never know.

The next quote is a little more interesting.

“Their players are of the highest level, you can’t just focus on one player because their team is full of players who can create and score.

“We must be on our guard and be aware of certain key players, like Robin, who has scored a sack of goals this year and is playing well. He is one of their main threats.”

Sacks of goals? Wenger never uses the word ‘sack’. Anyway, the bottom line here is that we have no game plan for Robin. Last time Wenger said something like that, Gareth Bale ripped us a new one. Still, it’s pretty difficult to have a game plan for a striker who scores from wherever he wants. The good news is that our defence have had plenty of practice against him. They probably know what winds him up as well. ‘Your mum’ jokes do not go down well apparently.

‘Hey, Robin, your mum has a chocolate leg… I won’t tell you what I did with it’… Theo Walcott said as he made a grotesque on pitch attempt at demonstrating his joke.

I’m not sure if anyone read the Oxo-Chambermaid interview in The Standard the other night?

“As a team we’re as good as anyone in the Premier League, right up there with the best in Europe and worldwide,”

I love the boys enthusiasm, but jeez… talk about deluded. He’s talking about beating United this weekend as a springboard for winning the league next year. Whatever they’re putting in the Maximuscle these days, I’d like a piece…

Final piece of news centres around the wealth of managers. Ferguson is the richest, with a cool £34m to his name…  whilst Wenger sits joint second with Roy Keane having pocketed an incredible £29m. Seriously big dollars going on there. I find it quite interesting of late just chatting to people of all support backgrounds. It’s amazing how many people tell me that they’ve fallen out of love with the game of football. We, as fans, have zero connection with the players. We have zero connection with the club and we’re so out of pocket following our team, it starts to grate.

Now, I don’t want to bang on about it… but whilst you don’t get the same venom at a rugby game, there’s a great closeness to everything that goes on. The players aren’t out of your reach. They’re normal blokes. Then you look at German football, it’s come on leaps and bounds over the last ten years because they ripped out their FA and started a fresh. They forced clubs into beahving properly. They allow fan ownership. The rich give to the poor, the poor give to the atmosphere. It’s a family event. It’s affordable. It’s technically brilliant and all that hard work is paying off. There’s nothing murky about their league.

What are we left with? How does the club do something about the appalling atmosphere. Why don’t they do more to get us in early and build an atmosphere? What can they give back to the people that prop it up? Can they do more to support fan needs. Can they give us a voice?

That’s not just Arsenal either… that’s pretty much every club in the league. Our upper levels of management at least make a concerted effort to try and give the impression we can impact the future of the club.

Anyway, something to chew over.

Catch you in the comments.

 

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  1. Alfraydo

    Right on with the “zero connection” remarks Pedro. Also the rugby and German comparison. More difficult is seeing how that might change… At a club level all you can do is vote with your feet but despite disillusionment with the club/management/players not sure I want to give up my season ticket up as I’d be 10yrs+ away from getting it back if I wanted to. At a premier league/FA level the whole organisation is toxic and rotten to the core and forget about FIFA…

  2. Bade

    A 28 yrs old German international keeper always reeks of good business

    I’d love to have a mature keeper rather than a young talented one

  3. TitsMcgee

    “Even Benteke wouldve scored 20+ in the PL for us this season.”

    I agree and I’d take him over Giroud any day.

    Oh what a thing it would be to have ambition and pride at this club.

    Falcao to Chelsea/UTD.

    Cavani to City/PSG.

    Fellaini to City.

    Jovetic will be a nice signing if it happens but he and Ashley Williams aren’t going to raise us out of 4th/5th.

    We will be right back in the same place next year if not worse.

    The teams that are already more talented than us are going to strengthen even more while we stay in neutral.

  4. Bade

    Jovetic is a good buy as well

    He’s still not the finished product yet. But he’s a huge talent & a good manager should be able to muster out a fierce striker out of him

  5. Bade

    Arsene is just a funny guy you have to admit

    He always focuses on the wrong aspect while totally ignoring the aspects he should have been focusing on

    He’s never focused on the opposition we’re going to play, but on our “game plan”. Fuck me Arsene, did you hear what Jose had to say about Dortmund & Lewndovski the other night? It was evident they knew every thing about the guy. I know it didn’t help them, but the preparations is a must if you want to be successful in the business

    So, Arsene, why don’t you focus on the opposition pros & cons & stop your deluded mythical assumption of “it’s enough to focus on our game”

    In the other hand, when he should be focusing on our transfer deals & needs, the guy can’t stop bemoaning on other teams. I mean, what the hell are you interested in what Chelsea, United or City are going to do? Go out there & bring in the players to make your team look competitive is what you should be doing. If you want to look on other teams, then try at least to learn something. Like spending more than the sacred 15m on a player!

    This seasons’ CL showed us we don’t need the most expensive players in order to be successful. You need the right mix & the right manager.

    What we need are

    New manager
    Top keeper
    Top DM
    Top CM
    Top striker

    You can add on CB & winger if you want.

    It’s not too many.

    Barca. They’re walking their league. They were tarnished in the CL Semis, & immediately they’re talking about bringing in 4-5 players, with Hummles, Kompany & Neymar on their radar….

    ManU trying to lure Lewandovski in spite of winning the league with huge margin & having the best CF in the league

    It’s doable, but you need a new manager to do it

    Arsene isn’t “charged” enough. He’s a scientist, not a manager

  6. Johnty79

    Wenger worth 29m don’t be so deluded. 7m a year for the last 6 years is 42m or 25m after tax. Wenger was on 2m a year in Japan. Wenger doesn’t have nice possessions and normally gets freeby holidays. With his investments I recon wenger is worth closer to 75m. That’s cash and tangible assets.. Same for David Cameron he’s probably worth 50 m. Most MP’s worth there salt are millionaires.

  7. Johnty79

    Slip in the papers today.. Arsenal have 70m to spend on players and wages… I.e that adds up to virtually nothing. That couldn’t even buy van Persie. We r so cheap…

    Watch arsenal fuck up the jovetic deal…haggling over the price when man city will come in and sign him.

  8. gambon

    Johnty

    No, the wage thing is bollocks.

    When you buy RVP for £24m you dont pay him £48m (his wages) in one lump sum do you?

  9. Nasri's Mouth

    @johnty79

    Wenger’s worth £75m because he get freebie holidays??!! I guess those 2 weeks in Benidorm every year certainly eat through the millions over time.

  10. Arsenal 1886-2006

    Samir.

    The boos won’t bother RVP, like most players he is thick skinned and will relish the fact the focus is on him.
    Anyway i see it a bit differently, the ceremony at the beginning will go off without a hitch, maybe a bit of booing but not too noticeable.
    But the match itself will dictate the crowds mood. If we get off to a flyer and score an early goal and go in at half time 1 or 2 goals up then the mood will be happier, but if we go 1 or 2 goals down then i think it could turn nasty for wenger and the board, especially if spurs win and chelsea win their match on sunday, the result will be known at half-time and we may well be in 5th and facing a tough task to get 4th.

    It could well be a long afternoon for wenger and co, especially the second half.

  11. gambon

    Vicky

    The best players in the PL deserve the best wages in the PL.

    We have a £150m wage bill. Would I be heppy with RVP earning 8% of that wage bill?

    You fucking bet I would.

  12. Lordbergkamp

    on the wages thing, it should be like the real world, the top 5% of people earn 75% of the income. We should drop this socialist clap trap methodology we have of spreading the money around and support our best players with the best wages.
    If you’re not good enough, go get more money elsewhere,

  13. gazzap

    Pedro, that is so true that people have fallen out of love with football and footballers. people at my work are definitely less bothered about football than they were 10 years ago. too much apathy around the game right now.
    For me, I used to love Arsenal, and now I think I just have a morbid fascination of Arsenal, a bit like spying on an ex-girlfriend on FB etc.
    Question is, can we ever get the love back?

  14. Samir masri

    He might start on Sunday. But that won’t make any difference cos tactically fergie knows what he’s doing. But us in the hand we are just in hope of getting three points. The pressure of them wining isn’t as big as for us getting CL positions.

  15. Bush Gooner

    Wenger will be sitting on his hands again as CL qualification is not done and dusted so big spending this season won’t happen. I honestly do not think Jovetic will be coming to us so why not put in a cheeky bid for Benteke? He will cost considerably less, has PL experince (playng in an average team) and, imho offer more for your money.

  16. lord snotty

    Will Gooners voice their contempt for Le Senile and the lousy board and yank scum on Sunday? Or will they be too busy eating their prawn sandwiches and playing on their I Pads. Emirates has come to resemble not a library, more a monestary. WENGER OUT!!!

  17. vicky

    Gambon

    No, I just wanted to have an idea about what he currently earns at Man U.

    12m means 230 K per week.

    Then it sounds realistic.

  18. Arsenal 1886-2006

    Johnty.

    Easy solution to the £70 million+ wages dilemma.

    Andre Santos – OUT
    Johan Djourou – OUT
    Denilson – OUT
    Emmanuel Frimpong – OUT
    Nicklas Bendtner – OUT
    Park Chu-Young – OUT
    Marouane Chamakh – OUT
    Lukasz Fabianski – OUT
    Vito Mannone – OUT
    Sebastien Squillaci – OUT
    Abou Diaby – OUT
    Tomas Rosicky – OUT
    Andrei Arshavin – OUT
    Gervinho – OUT
    Olivier Giroud – OUT

    That’s about £25 million a year freed up, go buy quality players and tell potential commercial partners we are serious about competing. The money from commercial deals would rocket if they believed we were serious about becoming a top club.

  19. gambon

    Jovetic & Benteke would be very interesting.

    Sell Giroud & Gervinho, as well as Bendtner, Park & Chamakh.

    Jovetic, Benteke, Walcott & Podolski would be a much better group of strikers to what we currently have.

    The 2 would cost us about £42m, and we could get maybe £22m for the ones we sell, which means £20m net cost to upgrade our attacking options.

  20. vicky

    1886

    Mate I agree that we need to get rid of deadwoods.

    But still I do not think 25m freed up will be enough to suit our needs.

    There are 4 strikers in your list. Assuming that only Giroud is a regular for us, we still need two quality strikers. Assuming 150 K each for quality striker, we
    will have to spend 15m on them.

    Rosicky,Diaby and Denilson,Arshavin—If u throw all of them out, at the bare minimum we will have to sign two quality MF/Winger. Again 12m on wages, I would assume.

    Also 1 defender and 1 GK at the very least— another 8m on wages.

    So all in all minimum 35m of wages.
    So If I take your figure of 25m on face value,still 10m extra wage expenditure per year.

    Not that I am not recommending that,just point out that our wage bill will increase enormously anyway.

  21. Bush Gooner

    gambon

    Agree with that strikeforce.

    The thought of having Gerboue as our second striker fills me with absolute fear and further shows how far backwards we have gone from not having a proper strikeforce since Henry.

  22. meh meh meh

    You talk like its monopoly money.

    Those wages are fucking insane and are exactly the reason why the average fans don’t love football as much as they did before.
    Top players earning 200K+ p/w for kicking a bit of synthetic plastic about while the common man struggles to earn enough to live a healthy life.

    Don’t get me wrong, they should earn good wages to survive their whole lives on due to short careers, risk of injury, they are entertainers to millions etc but some players these days earn enough over a 4 year contract to fix a small nation. Its a joke.
    They’re not just set up for life. Their kids, grandkids, grandkid kids etc are all set up for life.

    I for one am glad Arsenal have a wage structure. Our wage bill is only so high because we employ 234222 players.

  23. Arsenal 1886-2006

    Vicky.

    The £25m figure i suggested was pretty conservative and based on an average of about £30-000 a week per player, which is very much an underestimate.

    You also have to remember the added commercial potential of top players, add to this the shirt sales worldwide by signing good players.
    You also have the chance of silverware of some sort (prize money and prestige), longer runs and more financial gains in the CL.
    The potential profits outweigh the initial outlay if the right players are bought, you just need the right man at the helm to guide them, and that is another problem altogether.

  24. vicky

    1886

    We will not be able to flog off that many players.

    An outlay of 70m is just too much to expect from Le Senile.

    We need a decisive manager.

  25. Johnty79

    Does anyone know why parks wages and transfer fee have been written off in our accounts with no hope of getting any money back. I believe this was disclosed recently in our accounts. Why didn’t they do this to other players??? What if park scores 50 goals next season( highly unlikely) and we get a bid of 2m… Or isit that parks agent has said I ain’t moving for no one one. 50 k aweek thank you very much.

  26. gambon

    “Those wages are fucking insane and are exactly the reason why the average fans don’t love football as much as they did before.
    Top players earning 200K+ p/w for kicking a bit of synthetic plastic about while the common man struggles to earn enough to live a healthy life.”

  27. gambon

    Following on from that Meh Meh Meh

    If you are struggling to earn enough try learning something that is enough in demand that Sky, or another company, will pay £3bn to you so you can do it.

    The players absolutely deserve the money in the game. All increase in revenues should go to the players, they make the league what it is, they make it popular, they raise the enormous revenues.

  28. Paddy got up

    With regard to buying new players it won’t make one bit of difference whilst Wenger is in charge. The bloke sucks the life out of everything and still is untouchable. Question him and your out!
    With regard to apathy at football I think it is just apathy at Arsenal. A bloke I know is a Manure fan and has paid £300 to go Sunday!!! I sold mine at face value as can’t bear to go to that poxy ground.(By the way would never sell to a Manc for any money.)
    My apathy goes even further. Watch the game on Sunday on T or go out with the family? Family wins hands down. Unthinkable in our house a few years ago.
    Sadly I bet I’m not alone in my thoughts.

  29. Dan Ahern

    I love Adler but this is so daft it kills me. He was out of contract last summer. He went to Hamburg ON A FREE. Last year! When we were in the exact same keeper situation! FREE! Did I mention it was a FREE TRANSFER?

    Ugh.

  30. Pedro

    Gambon, more of the money could be fed into community projects… grass roots football… making football more accessible… stabilising clubs.

    It doesn’t have to shoot straight into the players back pockets every time.

    How many businesses justify wage to revenue rates like football. It’s absolutely crazy.

  31. gambon

    Pedro

    heres the thing……

    Thai TV pay big money for the boradcast rights, which is funded by the Thai consumer……

    Now do you think they want to see Arsenal giving million per year to Leyton Orient, or do they want Jovetic in the premier league on TV every saturday?

  32. JJ

    That Kiyoshi Japanese proverb debate yesterday was hilarious.

    Kiyoshi – We have a saying that goes ‘fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 8 years in a row, fcuk you and the horse you rode in on!’

    Happy Friday all!

  33. gambon

    But I agree, football should be more accessible.

    Ticket prices are ridiculous, that side of things needs to, but wont change.

    But the big TV, Prize and Commercial money deserves to go to the players, as they make the “product” what it is.

    Theres a reason PL football is shown all over the world, and Belgian football isnt.

  34. Radio Raheem

    Theres a reason PL football is shown all over the world, and Belgian football isnt.
    ————-

    Belgium only colonised the Congo, Rwanda and Burundi whereas Britain colonised the world??

  35. Cloggs

    JJ,
    LOL, I don’t think our nippon friend noticed you were having a go at him..
    OK, sorry Kiyoshi, but WTF am I supposed to do with lion cub
    LOL, f*cking hilarious!

  36. Dan Ahern

    RR – lol. Germany was mighty late to the imperialism game too, but they still do okay for themselves.

  37. Pedro

    Gambon, I’ve got no expectation it’ll change… but this problem where cash strapped clubs pick up another £40m in revenue and the player wipe it out is ridiculous.

    There’s not an alternative though… but Germany have the fan treatment spot on.

    They also have really good global viewing figures as well… I think that’s on account of the terrestrial deal they struck in china.

  38. Pedro

    … and Gambon, I get what people want. But even Film stars don’t take 70% of the revenue when it comes to a film.

    Normally the company takes the lions share.

    It’s off key…

  39. Alex James

    Arsenal 1886. First time I have seen a list of our rubbish players in one place. Gave me quite a fright. If the list isn’t an indictment of Wenger’s folly, I don’ t know what is.

  40. Radio Raheem

    Dan

    Yeah I was partly joking there. Sure it’s more complex than that but no doubt the PL has benefited from its ‘old networks’.

  41. Johnty79

    Adler will be our new ‘ flappy’ . He is very odgy at crosses and will be a flop for us.. Why is it wenger always misses the obvious signings that are in the papers. I tell you why because he gets know credit if he signs them. Begovic will not cost 15 m. We are the only takers at this moment in time. He will go for know more that 10m. Wenger always says he priced out of the English market but always misses. Joe cole 6m, defoe 6m Cahill 6 m, carrick 2.75m, lescott 4m and free….but he’s happy to 24m for to unproven young players Walcott and ox.

  42. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cloggs

    Hmm, I just assumed he was someone pretending to be Japanese and the sayings were straight off some website.

  43. Nasri's Mouth

    As for wages, if wages were capped, but the cap was tied to the revenue of the clubs, then you’d still see Jovetic in the PL.

    It would also allow more money to be pushed down to the ‘grass roots’

  44. Ramsey's backpass

    Johnty

    dont you get it?

    Wenger wants players who will be gratefull to him and look up to him.

    Till wenger leaves before we win a trophy not the emirates cup or top 4 trophy…

  45. Cloggs

    @Pedro,
    Did you read Mathew Bazell’s “Lost soul of football”?
    explains much of the “sterile” atmosphere at the E*******$.
    No terraces , ticket pricing the ordinary bloke around the corner can’t afford anymore, no big banners, no flags, no flares allowed. No cohesion anymore. When I look around I don’t see the same sorta fellas I used to see on the west stand/clock end at Highbury, the ones that could make difference. They have been priced out, lost their appetite, felt increasingly detached with the sexied up marketing machine of “modern football”. And I hardly can’t disagree with them. Too many tourists, day trippers and middle class wishy washy people scattered all over the place. We’ve have become a global marketing brand (Gazidis toy) instead of a local north-london football club. Since E*******$ became our main sponsor I stopped buying merchandize because I refuse to pay 50 quid for a polyester jersey and to be a walking advert for an arab airline. Proud to be arsenal supporter my arse!. I still go to the matches because I miss London and the (pre-)matchday experience, mainly for what’s left of it outside the ground, too much not to go anymore.

  46. fedra

    Reply to Progman 07:
    “That’s the false logic in the picture. Man Utd’s wage bill is only about 20m higher than our 130m or so. Compare it to Swansea’s, you will suddenly realise we are on the behemoths’ side, not on the poor little teams’.

    Have to agree with you, having squad players, “hot-yute” and “deadwood” on £40-70k per week IS ridiculous and reflects badly on AW up to a point. But every club in the league has their quota of over-paid squadies and so to that extent Arsenal is no different.

    Of course we are not a “little” Fulham or a “little” Swansea (not that I, and especially their fans, think they are little) – we are a big club but our wealth is entirely self-generated. We are not debt financed or beholden to a sugar daddy – in fact, our sugar daddy is as tight as they come. No, our money is ours to waste in a way although reducing ticket prices instead of over-paying wages would reflect better on the club.

    I do like the Swansea model – players are paid a low basic and they must make up the rest of their wage with performance-based bonuses-but if we were to adopt this philosophy we’d have gooners effin’ n’ blindin’ all over the place, moaning about our lack of spending, blah, blah and blah again. And yet, buying off-the-shelf super-stars is no guarantee of success. It works sometimes (Aguero) but there are many, but many, more significant failures (Torres, Shevshenko, Arshavin, Veron, Anderson, Kaka …. need I go on?)

    Truth is

  47. sixx pac

    Rene Adler: “It is an honour [to be linked with Arsenal]. It is something that inspires me even more, but it is not distracting me.” [Bild]”

  48. Alex James

    1886 VMT. There are names I had long forgotten. Has Wellington ever been seen in London? Likewise Campbell. Bizarre!

  49. Cesc Appeal

    Typical

    Jovetic can expect his £40 000 a week wages to be doubled but Fiorentina are holding out for £24 Million whilst Arsenal want to pay below £20 Million.

  50. JJ

    Cloggs/Nasri – No, Kyoshi’s opening comment was “I am Japanese”. Really? Would never have guessed…

    Why pretends to be Japanese???

  51. Arsenal 1886-2006

    Alex James.

    When you see the squad and reserves listed in front of your very eyes it is pretty depressing. Pretty poor considering the resources at hand to the manager, there is only one person to blame for the weaknesses, and it is not Kroenke or Gazidis.

  52. TitsMcgee

    This man has failed on so many fronts yet he seems untouchable.

    Maybe if he was “touchable” he would have more of an urgency to win and improve the squad.

    It’s a situation where the entire organization is in a culture of complacency.

    His only saving grace has been UCL qualification.

  53. the_real_andy

    the question you´ve to ask yourself is simple – who´s guilty, the guy who acts or they guys who allow the other one to act in a questionable way.

    it´s simple but true – as a person you try to act in the best possible way – whether it really is or not doesn´t count here. AW tries to do best, he´s not coaching a team and tries his best to make them lose. he tries his best to achieve the best possible outcome from his input. whether this input is OK, great or the best has to be decided by other people like gazidis, SS or the board as a whole.

    I don´t want to protect AW here but he does what he thinks is best for AFC – it isn´t and it´s the board´s fault to allow him acting wrongly. you can argue AW had and has the powers to decide on wages, transfer fees, contracts and more or less everything having an impact on players and training. but there are persons at the club getting payed for controlling. and it´s not just one mechanism which doesn´t work in our beloved arsenal – there are several which slowly destroy us. the sad thing is there´s just one controlling person needed to act properly and we will be a force – because we have all necessary requirements to be a force in world football.

    the very important question is who is going to be the person. gazidis? many of you seem to have high hopes in him. SS? well, I don´t think he´s gonna change anything as long as we get him some money which we do and will do for a long period even if we don´t win anything. the board? well in fact they gave AW the powers he uses now and they think he´s god sent. us fans? well … probably. but we can only reduce the generated profits for SS to hope he acts. that means we basically have to stay away from the emirates, we must not buy any kind related to arsenal such as shirts etc. AW? he´s the problem basically so we may be able to make him uncomfortable with what he´s doing by booing and abusing him. but I don´t think there are enough people at the ground understanding he´s the problem so it won´t work this way I´m afraid.

    I think we have to hope for gazidis to act sooner rather than later

  54. marc

    don’t you feel that most days you can copy and paste an article you wrote from days before?
    Same stuff is mentioned in every blog article. Just shows as a club how much we have changed/evolved in the last 5-6 years – meaning NONE!

    Hopefully the tones of the articles can change next season? less of the same wenger quotes, less of the same names on the rumor mill, less of the same deadwood names from our team, less of the same $/pound figures about our “war chest”, and exhortation transfer fees (which we never spend or even bother looking at).

    If Wenger truly feels that there are only a handful of players that Arsenal cannot “afford” – ala Messir, Ronaldo, Falcao, and a couple of others, then surely all the other players (assuming they are interested in Arsenal) in the world could be at Arsenal. There are surely 7-10 players that we could bring in that would 100% improve our first team. Any name of players on the top 3-4 teams in the top leagues would make arsenal better. Just sign 1 or 2 for those tops teams and we are good.
    Only teams we can really see picking players off from are a couple of the German teams and a couple of Spanish teams, maybe a few italian teams….
    The majority of players on lower teams are not good enough, and if they are, are most likely targets of the big spenders, not Arsenal…………

  55. sixx pac

    SUGA3
    April 26, 2013 17:59:29
    fedra,
    Arshavin being where he is is Wenger’s
    fault and Wenger’s. fault alone…

    If you mean being in London then yeah. Wenger is to one who brought/bought him from Russia. Anything else and you’re a bit cookoo

  56. kwik fit

    Ray Parlour: Arsenal fans need to ‘get over’ Robin van Persie’s switch to Manchester United

    And h’es right you know. The best way to get over it is to give them a fucking drubbing.
    Arsene remember Fergie plays the same tactics against us cos we never change our style. Wenger surprise Fergie this time . Let them come on to us and we’ll play the counter attaching game.

  57. wolski

    “The players absolutely deserve the money in the game. All increase in revenues should go to the players, they make the league what it is, they make it popular, they raise the enormous revenues”.

    Not sure I agree with this… fans season tickets should be reduced, food and drink in the stadium should be reduced.. have a look at the Bayerm season ticket pricing. Yes tehy deserve a good wage… but £200,000 WEEK… never.

  58. SUGA3

    sixx,

    leaving him out of the FA Cup semi team kind of put him in an ‘us and him’ position, piss poor man management, bordering on inciting mobbing…

  59. Mayank

    It always strikes me as odd that the same people who criticise Wenger for playing Walcott criticise Wenger for dropping Arshavin.

    Both produce very similar statistics. Both are dangerous in their own way. Both are a defensive liability. Both can be frustrating.

    At least Walcott is young and tries.

  60. Cesc Appeal

    Mayank

    I really dislike Walcott.

    Mainly because he’s useless, but also because I often wonder how many players we’ve passed up on because ‘this will be Theo’s year.’

    Theo’s year is never coming.

    He seriously needs to stop comparing himself to Henry.

  61. Johnty79

    Once and for all. Rvp was right to leave arsenal. People complain he was never fit. But when he only played 10 games a season he still did alot more than some of the othr rubbish.Denison, song, bentner, hleb,rosicky.

    He aked the arsenal board are you going to sign big players. They said no. He was off. To be honest I think he did us a favour staying when cesc,nasri and clichy left. If he had of gone on strike the season we lost 8:2 to man utd. I think we would have gone down that season. Our confidence was so low it would have happened.

    C’mon people what did Rvp really do wrong?

  62. Cesc Appeal

    I think we should try for Shaqiri this summer, guys got talent, and I think he may be looking for somewhere to showcase.

    Gotze is on his way along with God knows who else at Munich. Could be a poaching ground for a fair few.

  63. Cesc Appeal

    Fergie’s got £120 Million to spend apparently, I can see definite moves for Lewandowski and I think Modric who Fergie has long coveted, but only if the Croat is at the right price.

    A middle enforcer will be on the cards as well…

    I still have a sneaking feeling that we’ll see Ronaldo back at United this summer….don’t know why

  64. Alex James

    Jonty. A player is entitled to go where he wants but going to Utd was a kick in the teeth for me. However, the real issue was the extraordinary statement he made about the club, which he knew would result in the club having to sell him. When he made it, his agent must have known Fergy was in the wings. Some people say it was OK to criticise. Couldn’t care less about Wenger but in my eyes it was disrespectful to the club.

  65. Mayank

    Johnty

    “C’mon people what did Rvp really do wrong?”

    Well let’s see. Even if we assume he left because Arsenal didn’t but players up to his standards and didn’t show ambition, it was the same club policies that gave him the opportunity in the first place.

    Do you think any other top club would’ve persisted with him as the main striker given his injury record?

    He came to us as a no 10, after Adebayor left Wenger made him our no. 9. Do you think any other manager would’ve taken that risk despite his talents.

    The answer is no, Wenger and Arsenal backed his ability and gave him the main role in our team despite his injury record.

    If he were at any other club he’s have been either used as an extra squad player besides a real no. 9 or would’ve been sold to a smaller club.

    Then after the years of work Wenger put in with him to make him a world class no. 9. After the years the fans backed him despite him letting us down at crucial points in the season. After all that when it comes time to repay that faith, he forces his way out of the club because of the contract situation.

    Not only that, he undermines the club by going to a direct rival. Even his own parent didn’t think it possible for him to do that.

    But you know what, I don’t blame him, if Arsenal fans can find his behaviour understandable, the scores of sycophants footballers have around them must’ve convinced him that he’s a saint for doing what he did.

  66. Cesc Appeal

    Johnny

    For me he is, and always has been an impact player…good off the bench but shouldn’t be anywhere near the starting eleven.

    Doesn’t have the technical ability or the brain…the fact that his position was put in serious, serious jeopardy by an 18 year old last season who’d just moved from Southampton, the fact that fans were screaming for Ox to have the start not him even though Walcott had had about 5 years to make it his own tells you all you need to know.

    I remember when he had the number 32, and Wenger had ‘lost patience’ with him and there were stories he was going to go out on loan…I think that would’ve been the best thing, he’d have been found out.

    Instead he was in a team with guys like Fabregas and Nasri and Van Persie and Hleb etc etc where he can always look ok-ish…

    Earlier in the season he played hungrily for the first time ever…he’s never been hungry at Arsenal but he sensed that Kroenke would boot him out the door in January for the cash.

    Now he’s gone back to his usual uninterested self.

    You look at Marko Reus, £12.5 Million signing for BvB, 100x the player Walcott is int eh same sort of position.

    Look at Bale, followed the same track (though he was never meant to be an attacker!) but has left Walcott in the reeds, anyone who tries to say Theo is close to Bale is an idiot.

    Just the length of time we’ve persisted with Walcott is insane…that’s his biggest crime, though really, he isn’t the culprit is he?

  67. LeMassiveCoq

    @meh meh meh 14.20

    Amen son.

    Take a fucking huge bow.

    That is by far the most sensible and sincere post i have read on here in a long time.

    This statement has made me re-evaluate my stance on FFP. This has got to happen, got to. The playing field has to be leveled. Otherwise the super rich clubs will most def split to a European super league in about 5 years time.

    You heard it hear first

  68. Cesc Appeal

    Everyone always makes out Theo is a threat, that to defend against him is hard…don’t think it is, LB’s nullify him every week.

    They show him the outside, where he runs every time anyway and bosh, job done. Theo isn’t going to do much from out there.

    As I say impact player, can change a game coming off the bench against tired legs but you want a more technically apt player in your starting line up.

    I was hoping Podolski would do that, but for whatever reason it hasn’t worked.

    Whilst there’s a feeding frenzy at BvB I’d whack £25 Million down for Reus and see what happened. £50 Million for Jovetic and Reus say??

    A front line of Cazorla, Jovetic and Reus just has everything. Technical ability, pace, power, distance shooting, assists, bags of goals, literally any of those three can be a match winner.

    Then use Theo and Poldy as impact subs…just cannot believe we gave Theo £100 000 a week!! And yet only begrudgingly gave Cesc £130 000 a week with loads of bouses to get it to that figure!!

  69. Johnny5

    CA

    Agree completely mate. Every fucking word. And anyone who thinks he’s anywhere near bale is a fucking moron.

    Lemassivecoq

    Mate if you think the super rich clubs haven’t already sussed a way around ffp your mental why do you think united have spent all season sorting out massive commercial deals. Ffp will make zero difference except outside the top 4 will be a bit more competitive but that’s about it

  70. Nasri's Mouth

    LeMassiveCoq: This statement has made me re-evaluate my stance on FFP. This has got to happen, got to. The playing field has to be leveled

    FFP doesn’t level playing fields, because the fields weren’t level in the first place. There is a reasonable chance that FFP in England will result in ManU being in a class of their own for quite some time.

  71. Willybilly

    Pedro/Gambon

    To carry on from the Gambon pedro debate about whether players are worth the amount they earn. ….. Well I can see both sides of the argument but fall down more on pedro’s side.

    It’s obvious that the players generate this huge huge commercial revenue, theY do, no one else. For without them them, the game would be quite frankly boring to watch, being no players to play :-!. Fact is that they do deserve that money , technically they do.

    It comes down to morality essentially. Is it “right” that a man could earn in a week, what a nurse does in ten years.? Who really is doing the more important job? ….
    You Could argue that a footballer gives us something that can’t be quantified easily. He gives us escapism, tribalism, joy, something to connect with other humans about.

    In terms of reality, I think the top top top footballers should earn no more than fifty k a week, anywhere. That is enough for any monkey to have an incredible life even if they only worked a year. A normal person got fifty grand a week for a year? They would easily set them selves up for life , short of blowing it all like a twat. Then ….., more money from tv could go into clubs and player wages from the lower divisions and we might start seeing new better things coming from down there with better facilitated clubs, why shouldnt the money that the top players generate go into benefiting the whole game, from grass routes up?? What possible bad side effects could there be,.?? none none none I think personally.

    Like pedro said, local communities could benefit massively from some of that cash that some of those moronic players get. It could connect the game once more with the people. Football needs to return to the hearts of the common man, and it can, that money could make a difference, those players could be real working class heroes as they used to be!:) and still earn so much more than a normal worker could dream of.

    I believe , like Gambon that footballers have rare talents that entertain, and those deserve to be paid handsomely. But the levels of money we are talking are getting farsical. There is no reason for any human being to be paid that much, regardless of the amount of money they “attract”. The fans make the game, We watch it, we consume it. Without us they are nothing, we are becoming disillusioned with players because of the money they earn. It is killing the spirit of the game of football. A game for the people essentially. I’m not a socialist, I still believe players should get very very very big wages but this madness really needs to be capped, and the players should be happy to do it.

  72. MadeToLoveMagic

    Pedro/Gambon ………………

    To carry on from the Gambon pedro debate about whether players are worth the amount they earn. ….. Well I can see both sides of the argument but fall down more on pedro’s side.

    It’s obvious that the players generate this huge huge commercial revenue, theY do, no one else. For without them them, the game would be quite frankly boring to watch, being no players to play :-!. Fact is that they do deserve that money , technically they do.

    It comes down to morality essentially. Is it “right” that a man could earn in a week, what a nurse does in ten years.? Who really is doing the more important job? ….
    You Could argue that a footballer gives us something that can’t be quantified easily. He gives us escapism, tribalism, joy, something to connect with other humans about.

    In terms of reality, I think the top top top footballers should earn no more than fifty k a week, anywhere. That is enough for any monkey to have an incredible life even if they only worked a year. A normal person got fifty grand a week for a year? They would easily set them selves up for life , short of blowing it all like a twat. Then ….., more money from tv could go into clubs and player wages from the lower divisions and we might start seeing new better things coming from down there with better facilitated clubs, why shouldnt the money that the top players generate go into benefiting the whole game, from grass routes up?? What possible bad side effects could there be,.?? none none none I think personally.

    Like pedro said, local communities could benefit massively from some of that cash that some of those moronic players get. It could connect the game once more with the people. Football needs to return to the hearts of the common man, and it can, that money could make a difference, those players could be real working class heroes as they used to be!:) and still earn so much more than a normal worker could dream of.

    I believe , like Gambon that footballers have rare talents that entertain, and those deserve to be paid handsomely. But the levels of money we are talking are getting farsical. There is no reason for any human being to be paid that much, regardless of the amount of money they “attract”. The fans make the game, We watch it, we consume it. Without us they are nothing, we are becoming disillusioned with players because of the money they earn. It is killing the spirit of the game of football. A game for the people essentially. I’m not a socialist, I still believe players should get very very very big wages but this madness really needs to be capped, and the players should be happy to do it.

  73. Alex James

    Quite right. The main beneficiary of FFP if it works properly will be Utd. The gap at the moment between them and us is enormous and growing. We ugently need to get some new deals in place before they take over the world.. What has happened to the shirt deal? Waiting on whether CL will be on offer I guess.

  74. Cesc Appeal

    If FFP came in then it’d be the very Execs who came up with it at FIFA who’d help the guys like Abromavich etc get around it.

    An example, how much money does Gazpron pump into UCL in sponsorship? Alisher Usmanov and Roman Abromavich both sit on the board of Gazpron…you going to piss those guys off?

    Countless other examples.

    Football is run on sponsorship and an audience that wants to consumer as much of the product as possible.

    You need big characters, big money, big players, big games, big teams, big transfers to do that.

    £15 Million Julian Draxler to Arsenal isn’t as sexy as £50 Million Falcao to Chelsea…it won’t get as many headlines, won’t attract fans, won’t attract sponsorship.

    FFP will come in, but it’ll literally be something for FIFA to point to and say ‘look we’re doing something’ when they don’t WANT to do anything…nothing’s broken for them. They’re richer than ever.

    Same with banking controls in our country, the government only wants to restrict them if it makes them more money in tax…but the bankers are doing quite nicely thank you for them, even if a few business get ruined along the way…making masses of money ‘unfairly’ some might say but the rich get richer so fuck everyone else.

    The poor have zero power and zero say. Unless they became rich, in which case they wouldn’t give a toss about the poor!

    FFP will change nothing, maybe make FIFA a bit more money in ‘fines’.

  75. Nasri's Mouth

    @Alex James

    I’d imagine the shirt deal will be announced just after the end of the season. It’s still got one more season to run.

    But yeah, they need to tie in many more commercial partners. However we’re not going to catch Utd in the short term or probably medium term simply because they’re a bigger draw than anyone else.
    They’re slightly handicapped because of their debt repayments, but the way they’re growing is scary.

  76. Nasri's Mouth

    @Cesc Appeal

    One thing you haven’t considered is that the clubs that aren’t funded by sugar daddies will be keen to press UEFA to crack down on the ones that are.

    IE ManU haven’t gone to all this effort to massively increase their commercial income only for some sheik’s brother in law to chuck another £200m at ManC.

  77. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    UEFA won’t give a toss about them? What are they going to do? Really?

    FFP will do nothing, else it would be in by now.

    Look how much time they are giving the Chelsea’s and City’s of this world to put a plan in place.

    In any walk of life it’s the same.

  78. Johnny5

    Exactly cesc until there’s a other peasants revolt shit won’t change. I’m talking both football and the country. It will happen but not for a while too many yuppie motherfuckers in this country.

  79. Johnny5

    Don’t worry though I’ve sharpened my pitchfork for whenever it goes down lol. Wait till it the economy gets better but the cuts don’t go back to where it was pre recession watch the middle get squeezed more and more then boom loads of angry motherfuckers going to descend on Downing Street.

  80. Cesc Appeal

    NM

    No need to. Horse shit. Nothing will change.

    Did sanctions against Korea work?

    Or Iran?

    Or Iraq?

    Do restrictions on the banking sector work?

    Equality laws?

    Nope. Just PR dressing with no actual weight behind it.

    If you are putting your entire stock behind FFP somehow making Arsenal a force then a loft hatch is probably near by in your future.

  81. Moray

    I watched highlights of the Hannover game the other day and Djourou made a right royal fuck up, leading to a goal – he basically passed it to the oppostition to run through. I think we will see him coming back in the summer.

    For me, I just hope we are ruthless this year with our dross. We need a clear out before we can re-build.

  82. Nasri's Mouth

    The problem with your argument is that there is precisely no connection at all between the sanctions and FFP.

  83. Evan

    Wengers doing his senile news rounds today, the best quote is “Rvp isnt Man Utds player of the year its Carrick, his game is suited for Barcelona he could play for them” And this is why he must go, deluded, pathetic and the reason why we will win sweet FA under this fool

  84. Johnty79

    Wenger had the chance to sign carrick. Offered to him, he talked him up but dint follow it through. I have vieria, edu, silva i don’t need carrick. 3 months later these were gone. 2005-6 when the major damage was done to our club. Damn you wenger. Our central midfield could have been carrick and Yaya for the last 8 years. We would have dominated everything.

  85. Johnty79

    Ffp isn’t real people. Even Chelsea and man city comply…waste of tie.

    Come on Rvp hat trick please teach these wining arsenal fans you were right all along. You should get a knight hood for your services to us. Glad you trebled your money it must have been gut wrenching knowing you were earning the same as that talentless waste of space arshavin. Glad your on 220 k. I just wish you would have came out and told arsenal fans the whole truth at arsenal.

  86. Evan

    P.s. I dont rate Carrick, I was taking the piss, overated footballer on par with Obi Mikel. Had talent at west ham and as far as im concerned bread and butter. My deluded comment was in relation to him being Man utds player of the year over Rvp and Me feeling depressed that Wenger thinls so highly of Carrick. Wenger would have Carrick id sign Mata

  87. Nasri's Mouth

    @Evan

    Wenger isn’t alone in praising Carrick this season though. And on the evidence of the other night, Barca could probably do with someone like him

  88. Evan

    Hi NM
    I put Carrick on par with Barry, Obi type of player, pass sideways type not as direct tippy tappy dont shoot. Me personally would prefer a more dynamic type player in the middle, ala Vieira, Petit, lampard etc. Carrick is a squad player I wouldnt have in my starting 11. But then if hes good enuf for ferguson what do I know lol

  89. Mayank

    My evaluation of Carrick is close to Evan’s for most of his career. But this season has been his best by far. Not POTY material but easily Utds most consistent performer.