Arsenal Keeper apologises for embarrassing dad | Wenger gets ruthless / he’s ready to change

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Ahhhhh, Friday is here. A lovely England game to look forward to I believe. How exciting. I know I spoke about it last time, but having the occasional Arsenal game on a Friday would be nice. You know, mix it up a little. Take the German approach to teams playing the Champions League. It’d also spread congestion on public transport for the London clubs… and beers after work then a football game has a lovely ring to it!

Anyway, onto the Arsenal news. Szczesny had to take a moment away from international duty to make a grovelling apology to the club and the fans. Rightly so as well. I can’t imagine how awkward his dad has made things for him at work. He didn’t just complain about the decision, he totally destroyed the manager with his quotes. Whether you agree with them or not, as a manager, you can’t tolerate stories like that in the press.

‘I would like to apologise for the comments made by my father which have been used by both Polish and English media,’

‘I’d like to make it clear that those were the views and opinions of my father and not mine, and although I respect his views I cannot accept them as I find them disrespectful to the club I truly love.’

The love comments are always pretty free and easy when a player is under pressure. Weren’t we talking about Barcelona last year?

Anyway, he’s apologised which was the right thing to do. Will he recover from those comments? Well, I’m not sure he’ll recover his status this season anyway. Hopefully the stories about Adler, Reina and Valdes are true and the manager really is going to make a decisive move between the sticks this summer. I’m not too sure about Valdes. He’s a good keeper, but I’ve always found him to be a touch error prone. Anyway, he’s won a few more trophies than our boys, so he’d certainly represent an upgrade.

Reading around the web, it’s amazing how the script for the season has been transformed after two wins on the bounce. It feels like we’re being built up in the media before we’ve managed to sustain a winning streak of even 5 games. Sure, Spurs look like they’re imploding… but there’s still a long way to go, I’m not sure how people can be talking about a turnaround? Interesting to read more familiar March stories cropping up…

‘Ruthless Wenger finally set to make the big decisions’

… type stories floating around the digital ecosystem. That story is almost as popular as the ‘warchest’ story.

‘Wenger finally loses patience and plans to kick out 342 players’

Heard it all before. If he manages to make 4th this season after dropping key players, it’ll only move to reinforce his opinion that he has a world class squad capable of challenging with ‘one, maybe two, super, super signings’.

Anyway, it is what it is, 4th is the priority this season. I’ll worry about managerial vindication every single day during the summer.

I’ve not really covered too much of the NextGen series, but it appears we’re doing pretty well in it so far. So well, Arsenal are hosting the next round of the under 21 competition at the Emirates on Monday, facing CSKA Moscow. If you’re feeling starved of football, head down to the Emirates, tickets cost between £2 and £4. I’m going down there to see Jack Jebb in the flesh. I can’t wait.

Right, that’s all I’ve got time for on this freezing Friday, enjoy your evening!

290 Responses to “Arsenal Keeper apologises for embarrassing dad | Wenger gets ruthless / he’s ready to change”

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  1. Keyser

    Jeff – Like always your posts are soo ridiculous that you yourself often struggle to validate them and therefore knowing this won’t try.

    You are an AKB, always have been always will be, your world revolves around Wenger.

    “The good ones were loyal enough to stay and accept less pay than their counterparts at other clubs and of course with the arrival of superrich billionaires, those loyalties were tested even more. ”

    Like duh, we’re not the biggest most richest club in World football, we never have been.

    When we brought in Sol Campbell, we got him on a free, and said ‘We’ll pay you a 100k a week’, that was one of the higher end wages in the league or anywhere.

    If a Billionaire had come in and said ‘ Sol, fuck it mate, I’ll double whatever they give you, don’t go to Arsenal’ it’s not Wengers or the clubs fault.

  2. Jeff

    Keyser,

    The double superlatives in your phraseology aren’t as funny as your half-baked religion called Arsene’s Witness.

  3. Keyser

    Pedro – They’ll change it because they can, not because of Wenger, almost all of their work has been around being less reliant on him to find those players to begin with.

    The stadium’s built, we will renegotiate new deals, we’ve got a decent wagebill and even if you think teams will find ways around FFP teams are beggining to make changes. Wenger’s got them through to the point they wanted, they can make a scapegoat of him if they want and then you’ll know for sure the direction they want to take.

  4. Keyser

    Jeff – You wouldn’t know one way or the other, you’re soo blinded by the bright lights of Wengers rectum that you don’t know whether to love or hate, all you know is that Wenger is the epicentre of your little world.

    Seriously re-read your post, fans don’t matter, clubs don’t, Billionaires come and go, times change, circumstances change, but it’s all scenery in your fictitious world, a fantasy world where Wenger is your sole reason for being.

    It’s not religion, Wenger is your Sun, the same light that shines forth is the one that you feel burns you now, while others look for shade you try to pluck that ball of energy from the Sky.

  5. Jeff

    Keyser,

    My dear chap, it is precisely the same blindness you speak of that causes you to feel duty-bound to patrol this forum looking for people who criticise Wenger and pouring your boundless energy but limited command of the language into defending a lost cause. It is not my obsession of Wenger but your obsession of people that criticise him that should be of more concern to you. After all you invited yourself once again into my sphere as though a neon light lit up to say “Wenger being criticised, who shall we call – Keyser”.

    For the sake of all that is good, stop this nonsense and for once in your life see the problem for what it is. When Arsene goes, do you think I’m going to continue to criticise him? I stand by everything I said because while he remains we have no chance. This is about the Arsenal football club which Wenger is damaging. Many like you find all sorts of excuses for him and I just wonder what you are going to do once he actually leaves. Who will you pray to? Who will you persecute when nobody talks about him any more? So let’s be clear about who really is being obsessed here and not accuse others of the thing you suffer from yourself.

  6. wanger-wenker

    ‘@ nasris mouth, sure mate i could be accused of contradicting my statements in my above comment. We are dealing here with SPECULATION and although many of us on here can suggest logical scenarios it still is just speculation. What i was reasoning was the possible outcome of finishing outside of 4th….an optimistic view at first but like you noticed my optimism faded when i further speculated wengers attitude to being out of champs league.(more a kind of devils advocate position rather than contradiction) However i stand by my hope that there would be enough pressure and maybe some sort of arrogant pride implosion within the deluded mind of wenger for him to just walk out. I also believe that arsenal can and will compete with the best teams in europe…i mean even chelsea have managed that in recent years.But not with a washed-up arrogant senile fool like wenger.

  7. Keyser

    Jeff – No, my friend, this is an Arsenal blog, go back a few years and re-read the comments section, make a comparison.

    “After all you invited yourself once again into my sphere..”

    Haha, come on, do you see it ? Do you see it now, your sphere ? Think about what you’re saying.

    I understand that Arsenal being stuck in the sort of limbo World the majority of teams inhabit has certain fans agitating for change, for anything other than what could be considered the norm, that they’ve become frustrated and want a place to vent and release this frustration, that’s pretty much the whole point of this blog.

    But at some point you’ve got to get a grip, either get up off your ass and do something about it or sate your anxieties in another way, read your posts actually pay attention to them, they’re all consumed with irrational thought of Wenger.You’ve stopped trying to defend them because you can’t, not because you feel you don’t have to, but because you can’t.

    I started supporting Arsenal in the early 90’s, I know that pretty much whatever Wenger does we’ll always be better off than we were back then. Wenger stays or go’s I’ll still be here, if you can think of a football related topic I’ll discuss it.

    What are you going to do once Wenger goes and we don’t quite live upto whatever deluded expectations of the club you have ? Make the same repetitive tedious posts you are now ? Agitate for change without doing anything again ?!

  8. Keyser

    Scrap that actually, I hope at some point that everyone leaves this blog because they are far happier in their own lives, than to seek the validation of others.

  9. JJ

    Pedro – You make an excellent point. From now until the end of the season we need to unite as a fanbase and help push the team into the top 4!

    After that we post-mortem Wenger, the team and critique their collective futures.

    Let’s face it, even if we didn’t win a game from now until the end of the season, they still won’t sack Wenger so why bitch and moan about it?

  10. Keyser

    “I also believe that arsenal can and will compete with the best teams in europe…i mean even chelsea have managed that in recent years.”

    Even Chelsea ?

  11. Jeff

    Keyser,

    You betray yourself so readily. This rhetorical question you ask is very telling.

    “What are you going to do once Wenger goes and we don’t quite live upto whatever deluded expectations of the club you have?”

    As you see it the main purpose of you being on this forum is to defend Wenger and if it wasn’t obvious before your question makes it evident for all to see. When Wenger goes you think it will get worse; implying no one can do a better job than Wenger. You see again you accuse me of delusion when it is firmly planted in your court. You keep projecting the label AKB on others in order to avoid being called one. You accuse me of obsession when it is clear who is obsessed.

    Perhaps you really are a little bit mental and I’m conversing with an inmate.

  12. Keyser

    Jeff – Haha, that’s even funnier than the ‘my sphere’ bit.

    “When Wenger goes you think it will get worse; implying no one can do a better job than Wenger.”

    That’s what you inferred, who’s obsessed now, I don’t think it will get worse, I’m asking what you’ll do knowing it’s an option, unless you’re implying it’s not ? And there you go, you’ve had trouble with simple logic before, but surely you see your own mistake there.

  13. Nasri's Mouth

    wanger-wenker: i mean even chelsea have managed that in recent years.But not with a washed-up arrogant senile fool like wenger.

    In the last 5 years, (well 2006-2011) Chelsea spent more than any other club on transfers and wages. They actually underperformed.

    As for Wenger walking out, absolutely zero chance. No way would he go.

  14. Jeff

    Keyser,

    This is one of your vintage attempts at diffusing and confusing everything so that six hours later it all looks like such a long debate so the conclusion must be that it is at least 50:50. No it isn’t. Whatever you say, Wenger is no good for Arsenal because he has won nothing for 8 years and isn’t likely to ever again. That’s the beginning and the end of the argument. I can’t take it to the next level with you because your madness will find a way to contradict even the most basic facts like one equals one so there is no point. This game you play is futile and only serves to inflate your own lofty opinion of yourself.

    Another glaring fault in your character is that you like to automatically reverse any accusation back at anyone who accuses you of it. Isn’t that childish and yet you want to seem all grown up and talk about logic.

    I will therefore treat you like a noisy little kid and ignore anything you posit for the rest of the evening as I often do anyway.

  15. Keyser

    Jeff – Mate, it was a simple enough point about inference.

    “Whatever you say, Wenger is no good for Arsenal because he has won nothing for 8 years and isn’t likely to ever again.”

    You can’t take it to the next level because your obsession won’t allow you to, remember that ater 6 hours of 3 different people trying to explain the flaw in your logic you refused to admit you were wrong, and I bet even now it grates on your mind.

  16. tom

    Inviting Gala to participate in Emirates Cup, if true (which I find hard to believe), is grossly insensitive. Bad mistake and an insult to those of us that were in Copenhagen. Also, it will go off.

  17. tom

    This summer we will have at least half a dozen players released or sold. We will have to fill those squad positions. 70 million is enough to do it but it probably only allows for two ‘A’ list players. Maybe we could stretch to three if we promote from Academy.

  18. tom

    Jeff,

    “…Whatever you say, Wenger is no good for Arsenal because he has won nothing for 8 years and isn’t likely to ever again….”

    The first half of this statement is fact. The second, pure speculation.

    Hardly the beginning and the end of the argument.

  19. Nasri's Mouth

    @Pedro

    Theo injury might work for us. He needs a break, We ‘shouldnt’ need him against Reading. Fit and raring to go next game

  20. tom

    Jeff,
    indefinitely, if the club is healthy and run “correctly”.

    Trophies are NOT the most important thing for me.
    Though I love and expect them from AFC.

  21. tom

    I think my position is shared by many.
    For me the “correct way” is as efficiently as possible with the goal of giving the fans the best possible experience whilst retaining the culture bred by our history.
    Our culture demands we prioritize winning, sportsmanship and integrity.

    I think Wenger has largely fulfilled this criteria.

  22. Jeff

    Tom,

    I don’t doubt that your opinion is shared by many. It is because of that opinion that Wenger is still in the job.

  23. tom

    Jeff,
    Let’s hear a concise description of what would be “correct” for you?

    Are the values I mention not relevant to your idea?

  24. tom

    Anybody else watch the U21s against United yesterday?

    They were excellent. We do have some good players coming through.
    Standouts were Eisfeld, Bellerin, Ansah, Hayden and Miquel.

  25. Jeff

    Tom,

    For me the first and foremost attribute in a manager and therefore the club that I support is to “compete”. We are not doing that. What we are doing is following ideologies that mean we have to sell our best players, that we can’t attract ready-made talent and that we can’t replace like for like when they leave. All of that prevents us from competing with the other top clubs. If you are OK with that, there is nothing I can say that will bring you to my way of thinking.

    If we can’t compete, integrity and sportsmanship are just the last refuge when there is nothing else left.

  26. tom

    I thought Eisfeld was mustard. Driving the play from midfield with an impressive combination of energy and passing. Our best player with Bellerin.

    I guess we all see things differently.

  27. tom

    I think we do compete though not as closely as we did. The fact we have finished top four year after year demonstrates this.
    It amazes me that the emergence of City and Chelsea as ringers is never seen as mitigating our relative decline by the doomers here.

  28. tom

    Take City and Chelsea out of the equation and we are the second best team in the country. Which I think is true.

  29. Nasri's Mouth

    @tom

    Well, if we take City and Chelsea out of the equation I think people would still be pissed off by the distance between us and ManU, and they’d be right to upset.

    Even if we were 4th behind ManU,Chelsea, and ManC but only <10 points behind the leader, it wouldn't be so bad

  30. tom

    “What we are doing is following ideologies that mean we have to sell our best players, that we can’t attract ready-made talent and that we can’t replace like for like when they leave. All of that prevents us from competing with the other top clubs.”

    Selling our best players has set us back in a big way. However, I think it’s harsh to blame the club given the circumstances. There was little or nothing the club could practically do to prevent it.
    We can and do attract ready-made talent as the majority of our recent signings show.
    How do you replace talents like Fabregas and RVP? It’s not easy. The fact we are having our players poached so often by “bigger” teams suggests we produce or sign very good players. Kind of refutes the idea that Wenger can’t find talent.

  31. Jeff

    Tom,

    What is the harm in buying several world class players, paying them top dollar and reducing the number of useless players and their wages in order to make up the difference? If we do that we can compete with the best of them. But we weren’t doing that even before City and Chelsea. Wenger has been following the same philosophy way before Abramovich and Mansour .

    Furthermore, you don’t mention Man U in your list because they are not owned by people who have limitless money and yet they are able to compete much better than we do. Does that not bother you?

  32. Keyser

    “What we are doing is following ideologies that mean we have to sell our best players, that we can’t attract ready-made talent and that we can’t replace like for like when they leave.”

    How are we not competing and what ideoligies do we need to follow ?

  33. Alex James

    Good to see that the taxpayer is funding WMU’s new stadium. A cheap fast track way to compete with us. The only consolation is that Spurs and Chelsea will be hacked off more.

  34. tom

    Nasri’sMouth,

    Like it or not United are the gold standard. Simply a juggernaut coached by the greatest manager ever.
    In spite of that, and points tallies not withstanding, I don’t believe we are that far behind them in terms of ability and standard.
    Somehow they just know how to win.
    I think the points spread at the top of the table this season is a bit of an anomaly but does point to the one thing United posses beyond all others: consistancy.

  35. tom

    What is the harm in buying several world class players, paying them top dollar and reducing the number of useless players and their wages in order to make up the difference? If we do that we can compete with the best of them.

    I think that what we will do this summer. Up till now it has been difficult has we couldn’t unload the deadwood.
    Paying top dollar is fine. The wage structure makes it more complicated and I understand it’s up for review. However the wage structure does have practical benefits and was never just a political idea (socialist), to abandon it opens the door to another brand of trouble.

    But we weren’t doing that even before City and Chelsea. Wenger has been following the same philosophy way before Abramovich and Mansour.

    Before Abramovich and Mansour we were winning.

    .Furthermore, you don’t mention Man U in your list because they are not owned by people who have limitless money and yet they are able to compete much better than we do. Does that not bother you?

    I didnt mention United on my list, though their wealth and Ferguson’s superiority are a factor. Of course it bothers me.

  36. gambon

    “How do you replace talents like Fabregas and RVP?”

    Not this cunt again…

    Cesc….What about Mata? Hes performing at the level that Cesc did. Guess what….he was £12m less, but oh no, Arsenal insist on spending the bare minimum. We as good as had Mata.

    RVP…..Well it seems Suarez is sitting above him in the scoring charts. What about Falcao? Cavani?

  37. Jeff

    Tom,

    In a broad context of course it’s not easy replacing players like Fabregas and Van Persie. That is precisely the reason we needed to do everything possible to keep them – even if it means paying them over the club’s artificial upper limit on wages. In Fabregas’s case, do you really think he would have wanted to leave if we were winning trophies year in year out – like Barcelona? And what about Van Persie, would he have left if we did our utmost in the market to win titles?

    The trick is to do your damn best keep your best players and add more to them in order to compete. You agree on the one hand that we have sold our best players (all the way from Van Bronkhorst to Van Persie) and yet you attribute this continuo exodus all on Wenger’s watch solely to the changing landscape. Is Wenger not complicit in any of this in your mind?

  38. Bennydevito

    I’ve been out all day and have just picked my daughter up for the weekend. I’m in the pub having tea and thought I’d check in with you guys but fuck me the squabbling! I’d get more sense out of a chicken roost! Usual suspects as always!

    Evening grovers.

  39. vicky

    I do not understand why do people keep repeating the excuses Wenger puts forward. We often blame the money power of City and Chelsea. What about the funds that we have in the bank. Is it not the job of a manager to try to improve the quality of the team when money is available ?

    I remember the summer of 2010. After we lost Cesc and Nasri, our PR machine was busy building up the hype around the midfield trio of Song,Wilshere and Ramsey and that we did not need to replace those players. Thanks to 8-2 humiliating loss,Le Senile woke up from his stupor and bought a few players. Wenger is deluded beyond imagination. He does not know how to compete or he does not want to.

  40. Keyser

    “Hes performing at the level that Cesc did”

    He’s nowhere near Cesc.

    Besides the point we built teams around those players, you aren’t going to find like for like replacements and then get them to fit seemlessly unless you make the same sacrifices.

  41. Keyser

    “Wenger has been following the same philosophy way before Abramovich and Mansour .”

    ..and yet we were winning.

    Even Man United, they won titles before Wenger even came to the club, they were far ahead of us before he came and yet you’re still obsessed with Wenger.

  42. Keyser

    “I remember the summer of 2010. After we lost Cesc and Nasri, our PR machine was busy building up the hype around the midfield trio of Song,Wilshere and Ramsey and that we did not need to replace those players. Thanks to 8-2 humiliating loss”

    Lol how many days went by between all of those events ?

  43. tom

    Cesc….What about Mata? Hes performing at the level that Cesc did. Guess what….he was £12m less, but oh no, Arsenal insist on spending the bare minimum. We as good as had Mata.

    Till Chelsea outbid us. A bidding war with CFC is unwinnable.

    RVP…..Well it seems Suarez is sitting above him in the scoring charts. What about Falcao? Cavani?

    Gambon, it’s very childish to chastise AFC for missing an opportunity like Suarez. Admittedly he has been awesome but it wasn’t certain that he would be.
    I can easily imagine the criticism of signing an unproven, temperamental talent form an “inferior” league.

    Falcao, Cavani….your having a laugh.

  44. gambon

    Keyser

    Explain?

    What doesnt he do that Cesc did?

    Oh dear, your argument just ground to a halt.

    Unlike you to argue for the sake of it!

  45. gambon

    tom

    We werent outbid at all….Valencia set a price and we wouldnt pay it.

    He went in on less wages than Gervinho for fuck sake, some bidding war.

  46. Keyser

    gambon – Wait a minute you little fascist, what have you backed your statement up with here ? How about you start with why you think Mata’s playing at Cesc’s level.

  47. Bennydevito

    Chelsea did not outbid us – Mata had a 23m release clause that we tried to haggle down to a kitkat and a tube of smarties. Chelsea stumped up the readies. The rest is groundhog history.

  48. tom

    In Fabregas’s case, do you really think he would have wanted to leave if we were winning trophies year in year out – like Barcelona? And what about Van Persie, would he have left if we did our utmost in the market to win titles?

    Fabregas was always going to Barca, the fact they are world’s best team is clearly a factor beyond his allegiance to his roots. The tapped him up like crazy and clearly got in head in a big way.
    We are lucky, and should be grateful, the relationship between Cesc and Arsene kept him at the club for as long as it did.

    RVP was a huge loss that is harder to explain but I don’t think it was about money completely.
    I suspect sopmething happened on a personal level between RVP and Wenger.
    When he started openly questioning Arsenal’s ambition he made his position untenable. Deliberate move.

    We do our damnedest to keep players which is one of the reason promising youngster like betner and denilson land fat longterm contracts. You can’t have it both ways.

  49. kwik fit

    Guys Guys Guys

    Arsene had to midnight on 31 July to match Mata’s buyout clause 18m. Arsene being Arsene didnt bid until the next day when the clause was redundant. Chelsea then became interested and the rest is history.

  50. gambon

    Scoring as many, setting up as many, higher pass completion, as many passes, creates as many chances.

    Oh dear Keyser looks like a cunt again.

  51. tom

    I dont know the details of the Mata saga and I doubt you do either, Gambon.

    What I understand to be true is Arsenal had agreed terms when Chelsea gazzumped them.

    That seems perfectly plausible.

  52. Jeff

    Tom,

    You can’t argue like that. I said we have to keep our “BEST” players. Then you go and mention Bendtner and Denilson as if they are in that category. If you want the complete truth, we keep the worst ones and sell the best ones. It isn’t difficult to keep mediocre players (especially the rates we pay them) because they know there is no way other clubs will pay them the salary we pay them. It’s a lose-lose situation for us however you dress it up.

  53. Keyser

    Is he as good as Zidane though ? Yeah, exactly, No-ones as fat a cunt as you gambon, literally bigger than Hayzeus.

  54. tom

    Cesc was and is the superior player, in my opinion.

    And Keyser is certainly correct in saying that because of Cesc’s role as the focus of the team it would be hard to expect a seamless transition.

  55. Bennydevito

    We could have had hazard some 3 – 4 yrs ago for 15m. We were first on his radar, he said his dream was to play for Arsenal. We scoured him to death then last season offered a kitkat and a tube of smarties. Chelsea stumped up the readies. The rest is groundhog history.

  56. Keyser

    Jeff – The funny thing is that once we sold Cesc, people weret alking about how we’d forgone a 3m bonus to leave. Or that for about 5 years people were saying why are we paying Van Persie as much as we were as he’s a crock.

    You can’t have it both ways.

  57. Bennydevito

    My 8 yr old daughter is stealing my Thatchers! Fuck me you should see the crumpet that’s out here tonight!

  58. tom

    Jeff,

    I meant to keep your best players you have to tie them down as best you can. The trick is to do it BEFORE they are recognized as your best. Both Bentner and Denilson showed tremendous promise in their early career and, even at that stage, had other clubs sniffing around. Arsenal’s strategy of tying them down backfired in that case,
    But I know we are all glad we have JW and Gibbs on long-term deals.

    It’s not an exact science, it’s risky, but there are not too many other ways to handles it.

  59. Keyser

    Ah shit yeah, Hazard another Zidane comparison from gambon.

    Have no idea what he had against the great man.

  60. tom

    I think Hazard has the potential to be as good as Zidane but is no where near that yet.
    He was wonderful last week but has been patchy before that. Not a first choice for Chelsea yet.

  61. Jeff

    The underlying assertion is that whatever has happened in the last eight years that has caused our decline and precluded us from competing and winning anything has been as a result of a remarkable set of excusable, forgivable and mitigating circumstances, none of which is Wenger’s fault and he was either following orders or events were completely out of his hands. That is what we are being asked to believe and so we must therefore acquit. That’s what I am hearing from Wenger’s defence counsel (i.e. Tom and Keyser) tonight.

    Sometimes, if nothing else, you just have to admire their tenacity.

  62. tom

    In a nutshell, yes Jeff.

    I dont absolve Wenger from stubborness, a certain unflexibility with tactics or a haughty french demeanor but many of the complaints against him can and should be mitigated by the historical context.

  63. Keyser

    Jeff – Maybe if you hadn’t blamed everything from global warming to the extinction of your Dodo on Wenger you might have a point.

    If Wengers polcies, according to you haven’t changed from day 1, think about this now you said that, then what happened for us to go from winning things to not winning things.

    Your next step is to say he didn’t adapt, then you get asked what you mean, and then your answers going to be something like ‘Yeah well he refuses to pay top dollar for World Class players’ or some other shite like that.

    Is that where we’re upto ? Then when anyone says well if it’s that simple wouldn’t teams with more money simply outbid us, as you splutter and fumble for your next line you think Man United.

    Who were bigger and better than us before Wenger came along anyway.

  64. tom

    I am quite surprized they isn’t more reaction the this Gala business here today.
    I am dead against it. Think the club has made a big error if it’s true.
    What do you think about it?

  65. Segun

    Maybe we shld wait/pray for man city and Chelsea to go bankrupt, since they seems to be responsible for everything ailing Arsenal!!

  66. tom

    Roman Eremenko would be a great signing for Arsenal but his club would never sell.
    Valued at 12 million but the main man at Rubin Kazan.

  67. tom

    kwik fit

    Gala coming would certainly generate an atmosphere at the Grove.
    I know you are on a wind up, but in reality I’m sure you are appalled by the idea.

  68. Segun

    painting everything wrong with Arsenal with the same brush I.e. man city/Chelsea’s money doesn’t feel right with me. Even with them, Arsenal could/should have done better in recent past.

  69. tom

    Segun, that may well be true but to minimize the ringer effect of CFC and City is just as bad.
    Wenger isnt perfect, neither is Arsenal but his strategies have been viable (if ambitious – trying to build on the model of Barca) and his failure to succeed with them in a major way is down to more than just mis-manangement, which, I concede, he is capable of.

  70. Toli83

    I think ox is better through the middle. Has lacked confidence to go round players this year for us. I was expecting big things from, him this year.

  71. Dannyboy

    Why is there always one fucking team that let you down, had a fiver on 14 games to have over 1.5 goals, and spain v finland to have over 2.5 goals.

    150/1. Spain draw 1-1 after having about 600 shots. 1 goal away from one hell of a weekend…

    fuck.

  72. Dannyboy

    Haha Toli, harsh on Djourou, he’s a decent centre back, he’s just not a very good emergency right back. I’d much rather it be Gervinho in all fairness.

    Or the mood I’m in, any of the Spanish players are deserving of sacrifice for that shambles!

  73. LeMassiveCoq

    Been reading today’s posts retrospectively. My conclusions?

    Tom is a cunt.

    Of the highest order.

    That is all.

  74. Bennydevito

    Kwik fit,

    Sorry dude, I’d already left the pub to get my daughter home before I’d seen your request! But I’ll bear it in mind next time!

    On a separate note now that west ham have signed a 99 yr lease on the Olympic stadium do they pay monthly rent and keep the gate receipts or pay no rent and the gate receipts go to the Olympic committee?

  75. mjgooner

    Two sides of the same coin

    WENGER OUTS – Blame Wenger for everything wrong at Arsenal & the world

    AKBS – Blame Abramovich & Mansour for evrything wrong at Arsenal & the world.

  76. Dannyboy

    sorry for the late reply kwikky boy (its a friday so I assume you’ll be in the midst of your regular friday night drink and drugs binge anyway!) 😉

    750 big ones would have been my prize + my fiver stake back.

    HA! Toli as much of a cunt Busquets is, he didn’t miss a 1 yard sitter in the 93rd minute like Negredo did!

    Also lads, I think the Ramsey curse cancels itself when he gets himself sent off! 😉

  77. Dannyboy

    mj, I think that’s what Keyser was alluding to earlier when he called Jeff an AKB, because he is obsessed with blaming Wenger for everything, contrastly your usual AKB says nothing is his fault.

  78. Jeff

    Dannyboy,

    What I am obsessed with is getting Arsenal back to winning things and Wenger is the main obstacle in the way of that. It is a misrepresentation and a false argument to call me an AKB simply because of what AKB actually stands for or have you forgotten what that is. The label AKB offends actual AKBs so much that they try to reflect it back which is just stupid.

  79. Johnny5

    Well it looks to me like LeGrove was hijacked by idiot akb’s yesterday more interested in pardoning wenger than the facts of the last few years. Anyone else notice they talk absolute bullshit and when they get found out they change the focus of the argument. I call it the keyser special. He’s a master at that.

  80. Kurt F

    “Take City and Chelsea out of the equation and we are the second best team in the country”

    This has to be the saddest comment I’ve ever seen on Le Grove. Why not take United out of the equation too? Then we’re Champions*, hurrah!

    *Oh, and maybe take Spurs out of the equation too just to be on the safe side.

  81. Paddy got up

    According to a Turkish bloke who runs a shop by me, main story on Turk TV this morning is that murdering scum being invited to play at our place.
    If true then Arsenal deserve everything coming there way.
    Just shows Gazides and the Yank PR machine just says fuck the fans.
    Can’t see Met Police allowing it anyway! But fuck me what an insult to all in Copenhagen if true.

  82. Mickey Finn

    gambonMarch 22, 2013 10:04:02
    “Arsenal are fucking cunts, Diaby is a fucking cuntRunning a story on pravda about how amazingly he is doing to start 14, yes, 14 games this season.I hope the cunt never plays again.Wheres Dan Smith when you need him.”

    This would be a disgusting comment even if it concerned the player of another club. No class.

  83. useroz

    Nothing good would come AFC way till the maniac Wenger leaves, hopefully with the passing of most of the board, and as well, the CEO.

    Trusting Wenger with more money is like pouring it down the sewage… just look at the amount of shit he bought

    4th means nothing

  84. Keyser

    Jeffy – I think that’s two different people who tried to expain it to you this time, think about it, bar a snazzy little new name, you’re just another obsessed Wenger fanatic, think about it for once please.

    As soon as someone says anything slightly defensive of Wenger you categorise them as an AKB you refuse to defend your opinion and you can’t stand anyone questioning it.

    How are you any different ?

    Johnny5 – Who changed what focus ? I’m sure loads of people have called you ‘Special’ but come on I don’t think you’ve ever had a rational conversation with me, if you want one don’t be shy now.