Arsenal squad building complacency bites again

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Quite difficult to stomach losing a game as relatively straight forward as Norwich. Why? Norwich didn’t turn up. I’m not here celebrating a top notch ‘outshining’ here, we’re instead staring down the barrel of a ‘how can we be called contenders with a showing like that’ type performance.

I don’t mean to go over old ground here, but the simple fact is our third choice goalkeeper is not of Premiership quality. He’s barely good enough for the Championship. So why is he drawing a salary?! The goal we conceded was a technical failure you’d wince at in Sunday league. You never palm a ball back into the dangerzone… sure Santos played Holt onside. Sure Mertesacker should have been quicker to the ball… but the simple fact of the matter is top keepers don’t make consistent mistakes like that.

Time for Martinez? Surely he can’t be any worse than someone we know isn’t good enough?

Elsewhere on the pitch things weren’t much better. Players falling over seemed to be the hot theme of the afternoon. Aaron Ramsey slipped back into his usual ways of ceding possession at the sight of an opposition shirt. Gervinho wasn’t much better with a wretched wing performance.

The big trouble we seem to have is Cazorla. If he’s not ticking,the side doesn’t tick. We created hardly anything all afternoon. No one really took the bull by the horns. No one seemed capable of lifting the spirit of the side. We looked flat out of ideas and that’s not helpful if you have top three aspirations. It’s late October and we’re 9th in the league. The best clubs are pulling away and we’re losing touch.

Why is that? Well, as I said after the financials dropped, we don’t have a squad even though we boast the resource. We’re bringing on teenagers to rescue us. I mean honestly, Gnabry? Sure he might be a prospect, but he’s a kid! Chamberlain? Again, he’s a prospect, but not quite the saviour of the universe so many promised me when we snapped him up two summers ago.

We needed a striker to replace Robin, we needed a back up keeper and we needed another midfield body to replace Alex Song. Right now we look vulnerable.

QPR are up next, they shouldn’t be a big test but now they are. How do we cope with a shock defeat? How does Wenger get the attack ticking? How do we reduce dependency on Cazorla through a collective appetite to create chances?

My biggest disappointment is the lack of effort out there. People failing to mark, players not making the runs… complacent mistakes. I thought that side of our game was dead an buried? Seems there is still work to do…

If yesterday’s game proved anything, it’s that you can’t patch a squad up with a bunch of players you hope will bed in straight away. You need top notch now players if that’s what you’re selling.

Wenger is going to need to think fast because black November is drawing in close… we need a great month if we’re going to make an impact on that table.

P.S. Arsenal apparently flew up to Norwich… seriously… and we talk about financial prudence.

272 Responses to “Arsenal squad building complacency bites again”

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  1. kwik fit

    Arsene decided that a plane journey in the morning of the match from luton airport was the cheaper alternative. It was either that or spent Friday night in a Travel Lodge in Norwich.

  2. valerie gooner

    Think everyone needs to calm down and remember we all have the same goal….to squat over GoonerD and release as much excrement as we can.

  3. marxdrive

    Relieable sauce

    You can do but don’t be surprised if Gambon and GoonerD turn up in Wenger mask’s asking for their tea bag.

  4. valerie gooner

    kwik fit October 21, 2012 14:14:23

    You’re one disgusting bitch Valerie………but I like it 😉

    ———-

    I maybe disgusting, but unlike goonerD not even I take up the shitter by homeless lepers

  5. Stu2323

    Absolutely disgusted at yesterdays performance,abject,toothless and without any drive.
    I cant help but think TV is not the right fit for our captain,when I was in the Marines,I was the captain of the rugby team,if our team didnt put the effort in,I can guarantee they would rather be anywhere else than going in that changing room with me,dont get the impression our Captain is of the same mindset.
    I have been a Gooner for 25 years and have seen us rise and fall,unfortunately now we are in a long fall,cant help but think of Brian Clough at Forest-undoing all of his work ,by staying too long.
    More empty seats on Wednesday will be the start.
    Remember we will all still be Gooners when the money men have moved on to the next Big thing.

  6. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Pedro….
    my disappointment is the lack of goals …. not effort…

    time for a few yoots to be thrown in… and throw a few out…

    gervino, ramsay, giround , and rest carzola…

  7. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    stu… as i was saying yesterday, tv5 is not right for a guaranteed start and deffo not captain material… toothless three prem games with out scoring…. are we missing someone????

  8. Relieable sauce

    I heard the plane trip was a late decision that had to be taken, the only other option was Santos driving a mercedes sprinter van to make the game in time.
    I think even Bergy would have got on that plane!

  9. Evan

    Kwik: I know if he had booked in advance, trainline offers reduced fairs if you book in advance, the prem league fixtures were made ages ago, i’m talking £8 quid one way.

    Holiday inn has family rooms, which are more than accommodating. If your lucky you can get on the top floor and actually see into the ground, Ivan can watch in his holiday inn tower (fact, i live near)

  10. fraz

    Have been a huge Wenger fan and what he has contributed to football in general and arsenal in particular. But it is gettin pretty obvious that Wenger’s time as a top coach is coming to an end. He needs to move on. Its nothing to be ashamed of. Everything comes to an end someday. He has lost that magical touch. He might still win if he has mancini’s money. But he is not the same man who could create magic with limited resources. The last 2 years have been especially painful. This should be his last season as a manager.

  11. Alex James

    The reason Liverpool are struggling is because Dalglush spent all their money on dross. The reason we are struggling is that we do not spend our money but keep the dross. Despite their setbacks, Liverpool still have Suarez and have Sterling coming through, who seems a genuine talent. We have Giroud and young players who cannot as yet be seen as worldbeaters. AOC has yet to get me out of my seat. The only class youngsters who have come up through the ranks are Fabregas who left and WIltshere, who has to convince over again. Where are the Beckhams, Giggs and Scholes? All our supposed talents of that stature are now plying their trade in the lower leagues or abroad in smaller clubs. And the architect of all this is Wenger” The way we are going, we shall have to call on Allardice to dig us out of the mess. What a thought!

  12. Relieable sauce

    Boozy

    With your most optimistic head on, when do you think that could happen, this season? I need some hope to get me through the coming season & fear it may only happen if we don’t make top 4 & i’m not convinced he’ll go then either.

    This bunch are like a gangerous limb that needs removing before it damages the heart of this great club, sooner its hacked off the better for AFC & real gooners.

  13. Guns of Hackney

    at this time, we actually have no players that we could sell for any substantial monies…think about that! Not one!

    Forget Santi (too old), Walnut (too shit), Ox (not great), Wiltshere (#wiltshereTWAT)…

    All I can hope is that we avoid the 4th spot, finish mid table, out group stage of CL, first round of FA and the milk cup. It might instigate change. ut I doubt it

  14. NoMoreCesc

    The problem now is that we seem to be entering a state of escalating belligerence from the club. Fans say a player sucks, Wenger says he is world class, gives him a new contract, and will keep persisting with him (e.g. denilson, diaby, bendtner, almunia, etc etc etc). How many years of pain has this cost us? Fans say Wenger Out, Gazidis and PHW say AW is the best manager in the world, will give him a new contract, and will keep persisting with him. How many years of pain has this cost us?

    Even empty seats and negative message boards and negative chanting / booing at matches will have no impact. The only thing the PLC understands is money and unfortunately, most of the club’s income is on auto pilot. So until the commercial agreements are up for renewal, get ready for continued pain and suffering.

  15. Relieable sauce

    “Words our only lies, pain is the only truth”

    Perhaps Wenger IS the most truthful manager there is after all.

  16. BOOZY

    reliable sauce, with my optimistic head on, the most positive thing that could happen to arsenal, is to sack wenger now. There is no better time in the world than now, when one of the most successful manager in the world is free.

    Our biggest fear of losing wenger was, we would lose the good football we play. pep would get up playing better football than wenger with trophies to go with it.
    how can we let this opportunity pass.

  17. Leedsgunner

    Along with the 2-1 home loss to Chelsea (that we should have drawn at least)… the result yesterday should be remembered next time AKB brigade come out to talk about how everything is fine at AFC.

    Shambles. Gutless. Err… why did sell RvP again? Yes, that 24m that we’ve banked is really helping us win games isn’t it…?

    RVP= he scores (and assists) when he wants.
    Giroud- he misses when he wishes.

    Arsene you should be ashamed of yourself.

  18. BERMY BOY

    The board will crush any dreams ,ideas ,logical football fowardness that Pep could bring to this club.Who’s to say they wont buy Pep the way they did Arsene 7mill yall .Shit i would kiss some ass for that amount.who would’nt.

  19. Relieable sauce

    Boozy

    Yeah that would be the dream for me, would be the perfect fit for us in style & to actually compete would be amazing. He was making all the right sounds while at barca, would really piss the chavs off as well.
    Seems like the obvious & perfect choice for a healthy future for AFC…… watch the board fuck it up though ( i do hope i’m wrong).

  20. BOOZY

    yesterday when chelsea went down, i was thrilled that they would finally drop points, i was wrong.

    when rooney opened his premier league account, i thought he would just break down and united would lose, i was wrong.

    I was so sure city were going to lose, when they had milner sent off, wrong again.

    i followed these games, because i hoped we would win, at one nil down i thought it was just the trend of the day, big team going down, again i was very wrong.

  21. Guns of Hackney

    Arsenal are like that cheese you were bought a few christmases ago…it sits there in the back of the fridge and although you know it’s gone off, you can’t quite bring yourself to get rid of it. But you convince yourself that it isn’t taking up much space, so you keep it.

    Ask yourself this: How important is Arsenal to you? In the big scheme of things, does anyone actually give a shit? If Arsenal win, what does that mean to you…likewise, if they lose, does a puppy die? Nah, didn’t think so.

  22. tippitappi

    wenger will be hard to get rid of as he has the insurance of a bust in the main enterance think how embarrassing that would be for those dickheads on the board……and I thought you had to be dead or be a dictator to have one of those …oh yes I forgot

  23. Relieable sauce

    Perhaps wenger gorges himself on puppy heads whenever we get a win & our players just dont have the stomach for it.

  24. Yogi's Slayer

    So, since it seems that we won’t be challenging for the title this season, what do you guys think we can do politically to change this situation? I am quite sure, if some placards, protests, etc, might do well, to direct the attention of the media and the club towards Arsene’s failures and the club milking our board.

    I don’t really see any point in supporting this shit club anymore, as long as that Arsene prick is running the show. Really. I don’t even see why some of the posters think we are going to win anything, given the size of our squad. We could do well to fuck with the board and put pressure upon them over the year, so we can get rid of Arsene by year’s end.

  25. valerie gooner

    Guns of Hackney October 21, 2012 15:29:45

    Arsenal are like that cheese you were bought a few christmases ago…it sits there in the back of the fridge and although you know it’s gone off, you can’t quite bring yourself to get rid of it. But you convince yourself that it isn’t taking up much space, so you keep it.
    ———–

    You have food in your fridge thats a few years old? Do you also keep severed heads in you freezer?

    Having Wenger as manager of Arsenal is not the same as having old cheese in your fridge but more comparable to having masking tap put over your mouth and a McDonalds straw poked up each nostril, then having your face forced into a big bowl of steaming dog shit.

  26. salparadiseNYC

    Wenger’s warriors do serious battle up at Norwich, a proper green and gold shellacking. 10 points back pre – November. Well on our way to the 19 points back last season, maybe more.
    Where’s the AKB brigade today?

  27. kwik fit

    Many stadium’s throughout the premiership have away fans sectioned in an upper tier . Somewhere that they can’t be seen or heard. What do Arsenal do however? We give the away fans a complete section on a lower tier behind one of the goals. Ensuring that they can offer the maximum support to their team.

  28. valerie gooner

    Guns of Hackney October 21, 2012 15:29:45

    Arsenal are like that cheese you were bought a few christmases ago…it sits there in the back of the fridge and although you know it’s gone off, you can’t quite bring yourself to get rid of it. But you convince yourself that it isn’t taking up much space, so you keep it.
    ———–

    You have food in your fridge thats a few years old? Do you also keep severed heads in you freezer?

    Having Wenger as manager of Arsenal is not the same as having old cheese in your fridge but more comparable to having masking tap put over your mouth and a McDonalds straw poked up each nostril, then having your face forced into a big bowl of steaming dog shit.

  29. Ché C Cheriton

    I thought yesterday was as bad as I have seen from an Arsenal side. I said that three times last season and now once this season.

    We are miles away. I got into a fury in the comments yesterday lunch time before the match after watching a ‘beautiful’ Chelsea side destroy Spurs. I commented that Cahill, Mata and Hazard were all potential signings, yet we get none and sell Cesc, RVP, Nasri etc.

    It’s not on. Not good enough and the fans need to start voting with their feet. What I saw yesterday was a complete disgrace.

  30. Guns of Hackney

    Che

    Arsenal fans are sheep. There is absolutely no point coming onto this site, whining about Arsenal but doing the very same thing in one week. Arsenal FC are in groundhog day, and so is its fans.

    Suckers. All of us.

  31. Jeff

    For the benefit of those still living in cloud cuckoo land, here is how the game yesterday really went followed by an in-depth analysis.

    Arsenal felt deep sorrow in their hearts that no one so far had it in them to allow Norwich a single win. So, in order to be a good example to the others and show how it is done, they allowed their little friends from Norwich a helping hand out of the relegation zone. But the big bad greedy Arsenal fans saw this as a weakness and criticised the team and its king for allowing this to happen. So the teacher patiently explained.

    Although Arsenal lost the game, they gained something infinitely more profound and valuable: the moral high ground. In the end, the meek shall inherit the earth. Here endeth the first lesson.

    The little boys and girls sat listening to this and wondered if the other clubs who’d raped and pillaged the Premiere League with money and power would have to give back the trophies they had won so unfairly in the king’s eyes. When they asked the teacher about this, it was explained that although they won those trophies, they had in fact lost something much more valuable with which Arsenal is so richly adorned and imbued. When the little children enquired further as to what that was, the teacher replied with joyous glee: loyalty and respect.

    Upon this they all filed towards the door in eternal awe. The real moral to the story came later when the little boys and girls were given a choice of which club they would like to support and strangely not one of them preferred loyalty and respect to trophies and titles.

  32. Ché C Cheriton

    Guns – I don’t mind losing if I know the team has put a shift in and so far this season regardless of the result they have put the effort in but when I see what I saw yesterday there really can be no excuses from anyone. It’s up there with the worst performances of last 25 years IMO.

  33. Jeff

    For the benefit of those still living in cloud cuckoo land, here is how the game yesterday really went followed by an in-depth analysis.

    Arsenal felt deep sorrow in their hearts that no one so far had it in them to allow Norwich a single win. So, in order to be a good example to the others and show how it is done, they allowed their little friends from Norwich a helping hand out of the relegation zone. But the big bad greedy Arsenal fans saw this as a weakness and criticised the team and its king for allowing this to happen. So the teacher patiently explained.

    Although Arsenal lost the game, they gained something infinitely more profound and valuable: the moral high ground. In the end, the meek shall inherit the earth. Here endeth the first lesson.

  34. tippitappi

    well I have seats for Wednesday, yids & Fulham(1) Monpillier I will try to shift some of my favourite fixtures comming up but no more purchases from me for a couple of months ….well its a start

  35. Relieable sauce

    Jeff

    Not the 1st time either we give a struggling side a welcome confidence boost to get their season going. Any average team having a bad time always has a chance against us so long as they are well organised & have the necessary fight that their predicament demands.
    Fat sam created that template years ago & we still can’t overcome it.

  36. Thomas

    We’re trailing 0-1 with 8 mins left and what does Wenger do? Throw in a 17 year old. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA what a fucking joke. That says it all.

  37. JJ

    Ramsey killed us yesterday. Not just because he is hopeless in attack, defense and passing. Instead it was because he kept dropping deep to get the ball from the back 4 (artetta’s job) which meant there was a huge gap between and cazorla/the forwards. He would try and dribble to close the gap but was easily bumped of the ball too often. Other times he would do Denilson passes.

    He single handedly nullified arteta and cazorla.

    That also meant we would end up firing long/straight balls to Giroud. I couldn’t work out if Giroud was flopping trying earn a foul or if he was being a giant pussy. Not good enough either way. You never saw Holt hitting a deck like that.

  38. Adam Bucci

    wengers’s youth experiment has turned into the ramsey experiment.

    plus knowing each season you’re going to be playing several teams that will just park the bus, you’d think they’d practice against that and come up with a way to defeat it.

  39. Jeff

    We are one dimensional. We only play one way. We never change tactics. Our style is predictable and so is our manager. If the initial team selection is wrong, there is never a substitution until minute 67 unless we are forced into it by injury or a sending off.

    Sometimes it works but often it doesn’t. It’s basically a lottery.

  40. Relieable sauce

    Adam

    You could say the same about our deficiencies at scoring/ conceeding from corners & f kicks, crossing, getting players into the box. Jesus how many would we score if we could make the most of our possession & chances, AW doesn’t have a clue about tactics, never has.

  41. Ché C Cheriton

    Guns: Yes the 8-2 and the 4-0 vs Milan. It’s not just the players, it’s the tactics Wenger used in these games. There was also another one.

    I seriously think the time has come for him to go. We are not progressing and haven’t done for a long long time.

  42. mystic

    What a load of guff from Wenger about the attitude of the players, he picked them and he decided who to send on as sub. He really needs to take responsibility for failures – if he is concerned about attitudes, perhaps he shouldn’t confirm his final squad until the morning of a game and drop anyone who he feels isn’t fully up for the match.

    Fucking pathetic.

  43. Jeff

    It is nothing more than a pipe dream to imagine Wenger would be sacked. I am prepared to say that even if we finish 17th, he would still keep his job. He is more likely to leave of his own accord than be sacked but of course that won’t happen either until he’s served out his contract.

    On the flip side, if by some miracle we manage another top 4 finish, I can see another 5 year contract coming his way.

  44. Jeff

    I don’t know about anyone else but if a huge flower pot did fall on Kroenke’s head and he decided to sack Wenger, I would be more than happy to give Bould a chance. He would have them motivated and no more of this namby pamby father of the club nonesense.

    We might even do a Di Matteo and win the CL!

  45. kwik fit

    “Maybe we underrated the difficulty we would face. But the Premier League is the Premier League. If you are not ready for the fight then you will always have bad surprises’

    Wenger passes the buck to his players ,yet he’s the boss and person who must ensure the opposition isn’t under-rated. How many times in the past seven years have an Arsenal team under-rated the opposition?
    Answer; too many …..Wenger time to go.

  46. Arsenal1886-2006

    When wengers contract is up the worst thing that can happen is he gets moved upstairs, he will undermine the new manager at every opportunity.
    He will use his influence to stop proper investment unless it is suited to his failed project.

    It also makes it near on impossible for the new man to speak out about the failure of the ‘project youth’ without upsetting the wenger lovers on the board and amongst some of the fans. The fallout when the new man rips the squad apart and sells half of them for being shit will be immense, especially when the man responsible holds a position, albeit honorary on the board.

    That’s why I believe wenger will appoint the new man and not the board, it will be somebody he can manipulate and control.
    We are in for some pretty lean years if this was to happen.

  47. Jeff

    I honestly don’t think the likes of Guardiola would even entertain the possibility of coming to Arsenal whilst this useless owner and board are at the helm.

  48. Bergkamp63

    Pep Guardiola will give a presentation at a one-day event for international coaches and football specialists at the Emirates Stadium, London on Dec 19, 2012.

    Win him, Dine him & for fuck sake sign him !!

  49. BERMY BOY

    All this doom and gloom smacks of the familiarity we have all come to expect.What eats you all up is ,no matter what you say ,plan or think makes no difference to Wenger and the board.They literally know and are not affected by your pain and anghast…… you wonder why crimes of passion exist.

  50. Arsenal1886-2006

    Jeff October 21, 2012 16:50:11

    I don’t know about a flower pot on kroenkes head making any difference, he already has some turf on there.

  51. Arsenal1886-2006

    QPR having trouble with corners and free kicks. Whats the betting that wenger drops giroud and mert next week.

  52. home and away

    In this modern era of the Metro sexual footballer I believe there are very few clubs in the world who could pull off having a player with hair as bad as Gervinho – however we sadly are one of those clubs ………..

    All the rest are German

  53. Bergkamp63

    If Gervinho lost his dreads he would look like a giant one of these.

    http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=dung+beetle&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1147&bih=789&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=daCRTrzvPvdn9M:&imgrefurl=http://animal.discovery.com/tv/a-list/creature-countdowns/green/green-02.html&docid=WnwdGljjFScLoM&imgurl=http://animal.discovery.com/tv/a-list/creature-countdowns/green/images/dung-beetle.jpg&w=325&h=255&ei=Iy2EUNS-PKXK0QXOmYH4BA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=399&vpy=265&dur=8419&hovh=199&hovw=254&tx=158&ty=113&sig=118273347841454847040&page=1&tbnh=148&tbnw=210&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:15,s:0,i:141

  54. stevegooner

    Arsenal1886-2006October 21, 2012 16:51:08
    When wengers contract is up the worst thing that can happen is he gets moved upstairs, he will undermine the new manager at every opportunity.
    He will use his influence to stop proper investment unless it is suited to his failed project.

    It also makes it near on impossible for the new man to speak out about the failure of the ‘project youth’ without upsetting the wenger lovers on the board and amongst some of the fans. The fallout when the new man rips the squad apart and sells half of them for being shit will be immense, especially when the man responsible holds a position, albeit honorary on the board.

    That’s why I believe wenger will appoint the new man and not the board, it will be somebody he can manipulate and control.
    We are in for some pretty lean years if this was to happen.
    ———————————–
    Cant agree more. Matt Busby moving upstairs was the biggest mistake ever made. Saw the Mancs eventually relegated. Compare the transition from Shankley to Paisley at Liverpool. Shankley was shafted sideways, but life moves on.

  55. Thorough

    JJ 16:31. That would be the comment of the day for me. It is all Ramsey’s fault. It amazes me how we look pathetic with this Dud in. He totally fucks up the shape of the team. There was a time Arteta had to collect the ball from him. The only other game he started this year was against Chelsea and for once in a very long while we couldn’t posses the ball. Last year Arsenal looked pathetic against ASC Milan in the first leg because Ramsey was in. By the second leg when he had an injury we looked amazing and stayed that wat for the suceeding 8weeks. But lo and behold he came back and the coach decided to use him against all odds. Having been proved wrong that Rosicky is a better playmaker he started the tactical suicide of pitching Ramsey on the wings. This fuckin insane coach is just so stubborn and arrogant. We looked great when Diaby was on for the first few games. Then when he was absent and we tried Coquelin we still were good. The 2starts Coquelin had has ended 6-1 and 3-1. Why then must Wenger use Ramsey against all odds. Pull Ramsey out of the first team by Wedsday and you’ll be surprised we’ll look amazing again. OBNOXIOUS GRAND LAUGHINGSTOCK out.

  56. bayo

    How can we be paying 143 million pounds to this group of players. I dont understand what the entire management, coaching team is seeing in these bunch of players.

    The only good players are podolski, carzola, arteta, jekinson, metresacker.

  57. xavier

    Whoever handles player scouting at Arsenal needs to be fired ASAP……consistently below average buys over the last couple of years……..Said it from the very onset that Giroud was a dud.A plethora of far better strikers could have been gotten for significantly less.Am emphatic when i say Chamach has far better technique than him and thats saying a lot.

  58. xavier

    And while am at it a majority of the fans know absolutely jack shit about the kind of players this club needs…The same types who heralded Giroud’s signing are the same types who were aggressively championing the signing of Mvilla….That would have been an even greater train wreck as he isnt worth one tenth of his transfer value is pretty average as well.

    Over of a potpouri of average from jenkinson to ramsey et al

  59. Kushagra India

    If you’re a struggling team,
    And you need a big scalp,
    Who you gonna call?
    Arsenal!

    (To be sung to the tune of Ghostbusters – um, it sort of works if you say Arsenal as three syllables)

    from Guardian

  60. Iffy da goon

    You’d be surprised how an intensive training course can completely make you forget all things Arsenal. Right now i’m not even fussed by results or anything at all for that matter

  61. Jeff

    The other thing that I find a bit annoying is when managers patronise the fans by saying “we have to respond in the next game” as though the whole thing is just an endless stream of games in which you could be forgiven for cocking up the current one but that there would be no excuse in the next. Of course we arrive at the next game and it’s some other bit of drivel comes to fill the awkward gap and we are told to move our thoughts to the game after that.

    And whatever happened to “judge me in May”. Which May is the obvious question to that.

    Here is a gem I dug out; says it all really.

    “Politically, I am for efficiency. Economically first. Until the 1980s the world was divided into two, people were either communist or capitalist. The communist model does not work economically, we all realised that, but the capitalist model in the modern world also looks to be unsustainable. You cannot ignore individual interests, but I believe the world evolves slowly. The last 30 years have brought a minimum amount of money for everybody in the west, the next step, politically, would be a maximum amount of money earned by everybody.”

    “Maximum amount of money earned by everybody”; now we know where the mad wage policy comes from. He’s managed to turn Arsenal into a small sovereign state and appointed himself supreme leader of all departments.

  62. Jeff

    This one is really good.

    “We try to go a different way that, for me, is respectable. Briefly, these are the basics. I thought: “We are building a stadium, so I will get young players in early so I do not find myself exposed on the transfer market without the money to compete with the others. I build a team, and we compensate by creating a style of play, by creating a culture at the club because the boy comes in at 16 or 17 and when they go out they have a supplement of soul, of love for the club, because they have been educated together. The people you meet at college from 16 to 20, often those are the relationships in life that keep going. That, I think, will give us strength that other clubs will not have.”

  63. follow the money

    What bothers me the most is that we’ve all seen City, MU and Chelsea have games like yesterday. But they either turn it on at halftime, or make tactical changes and win the game. Wenger seems incapable of motivating the team and he never changes the formation or makes tactical adjustments, he just doubles down on what wasn’t working in the first place. Not hard to see the only thing we’re gonna win this year is the fourth place trophy. Can’t see us doing any better than that. The people that run the club are only interested in doing the bare minimum. They will never spend on the players and squad we need to win something, not in this day and age.

  64. Kushagra India

    38 min: Arteta swings a free-kick to the far post. It finds Gervinho all alone on the left. He tries to volley it goalwards and succeeds only in producing a comical air kick, the ball hitting his standing leg and clattering out for a goal-kick. I know he scored a few goals recently but he’s not actually very good at football, is he?

  65. Kushagra India

    16 min: What a risible piece of play from Gervinho. Arsenal broke on the counter and Ramsey slid a wonderful pass in behind Clichy, setting Gervinho through. He was clear on goal but with only Joe Hart to beat he clumped the ball around five yards in front of him with his big clown shoes, allowing Hart to smother. That was the worst period of football you will see all weeken

  66. Kushagra India

    90 min: The Arsenal fans got excited when Gervinho made space on the edge of the area for the shot, sensing a famous last-minute winner. I’m not sure why. It was Gervinho. The ball ended up in the upper tier. For anyone else, that was a glorious chance.

  67. Thomas

    Huntelaar available in January for £5m. We should get him. Really we should get Falcao but as we all know Wenger is a cheap cunt so Huntelaar is not a bad choice. 48 goals in 47 games last season.

  68. SDE

    Picked up some of Wenger’s quotes from the link Jeff so kindly provided!!

    Here are some of the quotes below,that I feel sums up Wenger over the last 7 years..

    “Gerard is an open-minded and passionate man. I am the opposite: stubborn and stupid. But sometimes stupid behaviour makes you win.”

    Yes he got that right..STUPID!!

    “We were considering him [Ruud van Nistelrooy] and Francis Jeffers and, in the end, we went for Jeffers.”

    CLUELESS!!..(Re..Xavi Alonso vs Denilson,or Gervinho vs Hazard)

    “I don’t kick dressing room doors or the cat or even football journalists.”

    PASSIONLESS..!!(Apart from kicking water bottles& remonstrating with referees)..

    It’s a shame really..If only Wenger had not been giving the keys to Rome& became master of all he surveyed..
    Maybe,just maybe,the course of events over the past 7 years,might have transpired differently..
    Maybe if David Dein,had stayed,maybe we could have been the first club in London to have won the CL?

    All supposition,I know..But one thing is clear,as it currently stands,the status quo continues with Wenger & his henchman guarding the Emirate Gates!!

    Sad times…

  69. Royal Bludger

    If there are 2 things almost every person on Le Grove, friend and foe alike, has been saying on here since the end of last season, it’s this: 1) we need another keeper (and get rid of the obvious dross); and 2) we need another striker (and get rid of the obvious dross).

    Look at yesterday – we couldn’t score a goal, and we let in a soft goal from sloppy GK.

    It becomes kind of sinister at a certain point.

  70. Jeff

    I think Wenger is still trying to conjure up success out of thin air. Other clubs have moved on, bought world class players, armed themselves to the hilt and refuse to take any prisoners whereas in contrast we’re still trying to play the beautiful game with a mixture of old, new and downright useless.

    What is a scout meant to do when Wenger tells him “what can you get me for 12m”. Not much is the answer. Titles and trophies are won during the transfer season. If you don’t use the window well, you’re dead in the water. It has been proven to us time and time again, and it is getting to the point now where we have become so predictable that beneath the empty praise and admiration the press and other managers heap on Wenger, privately they all know the writing is on the wall. It is a question of time now. No longer a question of if but when.

  71. SDE

    Keyser

    I think,it’s about Wenger putting right,what is under his remit..

    Instead of making the same ole mistakes,time& time again..
    & being hostage to his arrogance!!

  72. SDE

    Keyser

    Let me restate the above…

    I think,it’s about Wenger putting right,what is under his remit as a top manager,at the very least/the bare minimum..

    Instead of making the same ole mistakes,time& time again..
    & being hostage to his arrogance & folly!!

  73. Ché C Cheriton

    It’s a shame, Geoff has done the posts all week and on the most important one he hands back to Pedro. Even Pedro seems resigned to the same old thing now when it comes to Arsenal and he was very positive pre-season.

    I’m still pretty numb from what I witnessed last night and it’s not just because I had Liverpool, Fulham, Man U, Man C, West Ham and Swansea in an accumulator with only Arsenal left to complete it!

  74. SDE

    Che C Cheriton

    Should have done a 6×5 fold,or left Arsenal out of your accumulator!!

    I never include Arsenal in my accumulators,not done for years!!

  75. Keyser

    SDE – Don’t really think so.

    Anyway what standards were you going on about the other day and did you get a chance to think about them ?!

  76. SDE

    Keyser

    Despite what you may think,or arguments you may put forward,or riots you might try too incite..

    I think everyman to a tee,on here,albeit friend,or foe..
    Understands,or acknowledges what the prevailing & attendant issues are..

    It really does not need a 2 day argument,or a tearing to pieces of one’s sentence to suit your grandiose screwed-up theories..

    The proof is in the pudding..Nothing’s really changed under Wenger over the intervening years..

    Even some of the staunchest allies of OGL on Le-Grove,have now conceded time for a change,after yesterday’s capitulation against the Norfolk farmers!!(90% of almost 1800 comments over 2 days on Le-Grove says it all really)…

    If you are still in denial,or just wish for a blog altercation..
    Sadly this time around,I’m unable to afford you that opportunity..

    I wish you all the best with Arsenal& Arsene,but fortunately for me,I have other irons in the fire..

    I will log in from time to-time..But needs are must!!

    I bid you farewell for now…

    PS
    Try not to stew in the OGL cesspit that you swim in,or you might just sink without trace..

  77. sam

    when is the day we will wake up in the morning and it all over the news that arsene wenger has been sacked?

    under avb, spurs will finish above us maybe even win the uefa cup.

  78. SDE

    Keyser

    PPS

    Maybe no one has asked you this question,but would you like Arsenal at some point in your lifetime to win trophies?

    & if so,how do you think that would be achieved?

    Or are you happy with the status quo?

    Simple questions really,that come with simple answers..?

  79. Munitionsman

    A deal is only a deal until a better deal comes along….. Another frengi law of aquisition i like…….or a better looking slapper in wengers case

    Wenger out

  80. Jeff

    No Keyser. I do not sound like any kind of AKB let alone a massive one.

    Your have a very strange trait in your character where you often deliberately misconstrue what others say in order spawn futile and circular arguments that can keep going until pure exhaustion puts an end to it.

    Whatever AW is or is not, the results speak for themselves. Many, like myself, are not satisfied with those results (and this is over many years not just this season) and any excuse or mitigation provided on Wenger’s behalf either by you or anyone else are either delusions or devoid of reality. That really is the central issue that divides people.

    I think most people here are tired of debating whether this player did well or that player flopped because everything eventually comes down to the fact that we simply don’t have enough quality in the side to challenge for the majors and for 8 years now we have had more proof of it than we should ever need to conclude that this management style isn’t working.

    Now you may want to pick out any phrase from the above and try to grow an oak tree out of it but the “root” cause is still the same whatever you say.