Arsene… leave the commercial side alone! | Robin denies interview, not moving | Sunderland – Arsenal preview

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Morning everyone! Nothing like waking up to yet another lecture from Arsene Wenger on profit and how to run a good company. Yeah, Arsene is spouting off again in the press trying to justify his lack of expenditure by bending the truth about what has to happen at the company he’s running on a commercial level.

“We want to pay the debt we owe from the stadium we built, that’s around £15 million [per year]. So it’s normal that at the start, we have to make at least £15 million or we lose money.”

Oh Arsene, why do you do it? Why don’t you just leave the finance to Ivan and get on with your job. It’s not your responsibility to look after that side of the business. It’s your job to look after what happens on the pitch. Ivan sets your budget for the year and he’ll tell you what you can and cannot spent on players. I tell you who else could put you straight on your thinking about the stadium repayments… Danny Fiszman. He said this a few years ago…

‘There is this constant thing that the Emirates is bleeding the club, that we’ve got these repayments — it’s total crap – look at our accounts and you will see our net payments are £20m and the revenue increase from the new stadium is close to £50m. Explain to me how the stadium bleeds the club if it’s producing an extra £30m a year’

Well Danny, someone needs to explain that to Arsene Wenger, because after years of trying to put out the fire of fear around the stadium loan killing us, the manager is trying to reignite it to cause confusion and panic. The club DO produce profit, albeit through property and player sales and we have done regularly over the past 4 years… but we’re not investing it back in the playing squad.

We could also go into debt. Sure it’s not sustainable on a long term basis… but if the club decided they wanted to pump a £120million into player acquisitions to make sure there was an amazing team on the pitch by the time of commercial renewals, they could do that with little problem (when you consider we’ll have £77mill in cash sitting in the bank when the Queensland Rd development sells, we’re not far off). In fact, Madrid did something similar a few years ago when they tried to make it back to the top. They took out huge loans, brought in some major players, didn’t make it back to the top, but they sure as hell raked in the cash on a commercial front. Everyone wants to be associated with their glamour.

The trouble Arsenal have is that they made supporting so about business that the fans had to go out and educate themselves in corporate finance. Now we’re all educated, it’s becoming harder for Arsene to spin his nonsense because professionals who know the clubs finances better than the club can unravel what’s going on pretty damn fast.

The manager took a pop at the African Cup of Nations. He quipped that quality was low and that nobody was attending.

‘Can the people not afford to pay for tickets? Are the prices too high? There is a deep, basic problem with this tournament – there is nobody there.’

I have to agree with him. I caught the second half of Ghana vs Zambia the other day. The stadiums were empty and the football was terrible. Maybe the tournament is played too often? Maybe the Africans are numb to international football like we are in England? Either way, I think they’d benefit from playing it every four years over two. Good news is that Gervinho will be back soon. He hasn’t contracted any tropical diseases yet and he managed to score a  good goal the other night!

Arsene also ruled himself out of the England manager job…

“[Managing a national team] is completely different; it is more PR, more communication, there is less impact on the footballing side and less impact on building the team because if you have a good generation then you can do well and if you don’t you can do nothing. In a club you always have ways to build a team.”

I think all signs point to Redknapp. That would work for me. He’s desperate for the job, he’s worked hard to get it, he knows how to motivate and the players will love him. It’ll also unsettle Spurs in the run in. That’s going to be really interesting. How will their squad react to knowing Harry might be off in the summer? Quite often it has a negative impact on team unity. Suddenly not everyone is pulling in the same direction because they feel the manager isn’t. Hopeful speculation maybe…

It’s Sunderland up this afternoon… a big, big test of resolve for the Arsenal team. We need to start building out a bit of a run otherwise we’ll fast see ourselves dropping out of contention for the coveted money making position (<– that sounded a bit gross didn’t it). The team from the North East is resurgent under Martin O’Neill and they’re eighth in the league. Never mind where we think we are as a club, they’re contenders with us at the moment. That doesn’t mean we should roll over and let them take the points. We’ve got to go up there and play with the same authority we did against Blackburn last week. We’re going to have to play our expansive games and we’re going to have to make sure we get the best out of Theo and Oxo. Stretching them with pace will pen them in and make our job a whole lot easier.

I’m not sure how Arsene will line up. I’m guessing he’ll go with a front three of Oxo, Theo and Robin… he has little choice. The midfield will probably revert back to Arteta, Rambo and Song… at the back, I’d hope to see a far more balance line up with Sagna slipping into right back and probably a continuation of Vermaelen, Mertesacker and Kosicielny. That’s a strong side. A side that should go up there and win!

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Right, that’s all I have for you… have a great day!


Wenger came out to deny the Marca story about Robin moving over to Spain with Madrid. The pressure is sure to ramp up over the next few months. We know it’s unlikely Robin will hang around for Arsenal to get their act in order, so we have to expect this. One line that did make me laugh was this one about Barca getting Robin…

“What do you think? Barcelona knows that they have a difficult job with us, always,”

Errrr… no they don’t. That much is pretty clear after the summer when they mocked us for getting Cesc on a cut price deal. Anyway, don’t worry your cottons… Robin said this on Twitter.

“Contrary to reports in Spain I have NEVER spoken to Marca newspaper and never gave any interview. Enjoy your day.”

Shame he didn’t deny wanting to move there!


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  1. albo

    Gunner2301 – it was a specific point about people’s reactions to how we perform in games, and is entirely valid. I wasn’t saying that we shouldn’t have high expectations and hopes for an Arsenal team in general. I was simply pointing out the irony that those with the lowest expectations for our squad this season seem to perversely still have the highest expectations on a match day.

  2. IvoryGoonz

    albo: my ambitions and expectations are not limited to one game and my unhappiness not based on only one result.
    you’re drowning the fish here.
    there’s no paradox between having low expectations from that squad and manager to get titles, and wanting your team to do better, and have better players.
    just the way you write it.

  3. albo

    Ivory – yes, I guessed English wasn’t your first language. That’s why you’ll notice I didn’t make some snide comment about the way you wrote, I just offered what I hoped was some helpful feedback. For what it’s worth, at the risk of sounding patronising, your English is fantastic, and certainly a million times better than my written French would be!

    Here is what I find odd. Go back and read my posts. Animosity? Really? I’m pretty sure I never personally insulted anyone, never used swear words, and never attacked anybody with any vehemence.

    If you have a problem with animosity then I am one of the last people you should be calling out. Frankly, you might want to start with one of the writers of this blog!

    All I said was that I didn’t understand how Arsenal fans on here can still be so miserable after we snatch a win in the 90th minute, away from home against a decent team. I stand by that. That is MY opinion, and it is curious that you have such a problem with me stating it in a post that is purportedly defending people’s right to have an opinion!

    But re expectations – if you are lucky you will live to be 80, 90, even 100. What football team in the history of the game has ever dominated their domestic league, or even stayed near the top of it, for 80 or 90 years? None! Not even close. Not even remotely close. If you genuinely expect your football team to do that for your entire life than you are delusional. That is not ‘corporate bs’. It is HARD REALITY my friend…

  4. IvoryGoonz

    albo: saying you dont understand people when they complain and say they shouldnt moan when we win is not helping them, and doesnt help you understanding them better and doesnt make the situation advance, which brings the question why do you comment on their comment then.
    Just let them moan. it’s not because you can’t understand them/us now, that they are wrong and should shut up.

  5. IvoryGoonz

    otherwise you’re just trying to stop them moaning and make them change their mind, not actually even trying to understand, which even if it is your opinion, is showing animosity towards them.
    you dont need to use insult to show animosity.

  6. albo

    Curious logic for a discussion board – don’t engage in discussion! I’m not sure Pedro would be too happy to have that logic taken very far. He might not sell so many adverts!

  7. albo

    otherwise you’re just trying to stop them moaning and make them change their mind, not actually even trying to understand, which even if it is your opinion, is showing animosity towards them.
    you dont need to use insult to show animosity.

    Dude, I’m sorry but this really is a silly thing to say on an internet message board!

  8. IvoryGoonz

    albo. see, you’re being an asshole again, even without using bad words; transforming what I say and spitting venom.
    did I say dont discuss? while the fact is YOU dont really discuss unless you’re forced to, just spit here and there until someone actually offers resistance a la Keyser.
    we defo have different views on what constitutes a conversation, and this current one is only happening because I forced your hand.
    try replacing “I dont understand, stop saying that” by “Id like to understand, explain to me” that might help to actually have a discussion with those posters next time,
    ref pedro and geoff; im pretty sure after you telling them they are the ones that have animosity, that they will share your view… this is the blog of love remember, can you not just learn to be nicer to those posters instead?
    as I dont think your attitude towards those posters; including me; is gonna change, because it is just a constant feature, well, what do you want me to say? it’s a free world (almost), do what you want; say what you want.
    I’ve said what I had to say.
    night grovers.

  9. IvoryGoonz

    Albo: you are just a WUM
    after a paradox; now it becomes an irony? already explained your “paradox-irony very simply” as I personaly feel it, maybe this time you will understand and stop saying you dont understand, and eventually switch to “I dont want to understand”
    let’s try again:

    there’s no paradox/irony between having low expectations from that squad and manager to get titles, and wanting your team to do better, and have better players.

  10. Bade


    Albo and IG can’t get tired going round and round, and round …..

    Well, admittedly, after few posts I looked like a soap opera, you need to watch it only once, no matter where in the show’s timescale, and it’s enough to get the whole picture…..

  11. Robert

    Spuds are so far ahead of us, it is obscene.

    Then they’ll fetch 40+ for bale, turn in into 3 world class players and challenge next season.

    Fuck this. See what good management can do?

    Wenger out.

  12. Pacman

    I Agree with you that that we should be competing. The last thing we should do is show ambityion enuff soo that we silence the critics enuff soo that we at the start of the season are talked about as title contenders.

    That is within our reach as a club, that is reality!

    This is what Wenger doesnt realices. Should be very doable with our finances.

  13. Pacman

    It is so fucking frustating when we don’t live up to our potential.
    Ofthen i blame Wenger for this, and it’s not maybe allways right because the board is fucked, but if Wenger was a Arsenal fan like he say he is he would not take the bleme on his shoulders and tell the fan like it is and automaticly the fans would take their anger against the board instead!!!

  14. fanboy

    Did you guys catch the game yesterday? Wow, that Henry guy is one hell of a striker. I wonder why we didn’t sign him when he was younger. 😉

  15. Frogman

    You talk about Spurs and say this is what good management can do…what exactly have they done then? Good management keeps you in the top 4 and the CL for 14 straight years you cheeky chappie!!

  16. goonermart

    frogman, cheekie chappie yourself!

    Arry redknapp has been at spurs 4 years, in that time he turned them into a title challenging team who along with city play the best football in the league,
    We on the other hand we are dross, who gives a fuck about 14 years of champions league football, what has that done for us? we still sell our best players, we haven’t won anything for years but we still pay the highest ticket prices in the world and have been in decline for the last seven years. So there.

  17. Geoff

    Bade she’s another stupid cunt that did drugs, what do they expect, all that money and no fucking brains.

    She didn’t deserve a life, she threw it away, I have a few mates that would have what she did.