Arsenal punish 10-Man City with powerful display. Review and Ratings

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Arsenal took full advantage of a Boyata’s early red card with a superb 3-0 win away from home at the Eastlands.

There are those who will say playing ten men is easy, I have to disagree. Firstly I think you face a different pressure and more often than not, you find it galvanises the opposition to give 10% extra.

Geoff called for Arsenal to win ugly and for the first 60 minutes, you’d have to say his wish was answered. We were dominated by City 55% – 45%. We made sloppy defensive errors all over the pitch and there was a serious lack of discipline considering the importance of a win against a top 4 team would represent.

As with all good match reports, lets take this from the start.

In the first minute JD allowed Tevez to get inside him on the touchline, the Argentinian slipped a ball across the box, Silva flicked across goal where Fabianski was on hand to make a superb one handed save.

Up the other end, Cesc stamped his mark on the game slipping Arshavin in, wrongly adjudged offside. Moments later he replicated the same pass feeding Chamakh who reached the ball first only to be chopped down when he touched inside towards goal. I’m not sure too many Arsenal fans were confident of a red card after 5 minutes,  but Clattenburg was in no doubt… OFF!

It didn’t take Denilson long to pick up a booking with a slightly reckless challenge on Tevez. To my mind he had to make that tackle, the last thing you want is that monster tearing away on a counter attack. Aggressive tackling was happening all over the park. De Jong muched Cesc, Cesc returned the favour, Song clipped a City player… I wasn’t expecting the game to finish with 11 Arsenal players on the pitch. This felt like Arsenal of old!

Sagna whipped in an inch perfect cross only for JD to head over unchallenged for our first chance.

Not long after, Nasri picked up the ball on the edge of the box, he stopped then made up his mind to play a one two with Arshavin, his run wasn’t tracked by Barry, the Frenchman curled it inside Joe Hart’s near post! A stunning goal by one of the Premierships star performers this year.

The first half didn’t all go our way, Johann Djourrou was having a torrid time in defence getting himself turned inside out by Micah Richards and Tevez. Luckily Arshavin was on hand for the Tevez slip to clear up, that boy loves defending…

Song’s passing was incredibly bad and it was saddening to see that his imaginary friend had returned and he keener than ever to get ball time. He picked up a yellow card along with Cesc.

As the half drew to a close, Cesc picked up the ball in the area, Kompany stuck out a leg and down went the Spaniard for the penalty. I don’t know why, but despite Cesc scoring  all of his last 5 penalties, I didn’t feel confident. He hit it hard at the perfect height for Joe Hart to smother. It was a great save, not an amazing penalty though.

The second half nearly opened with a goal  but neither Cesc or Nasri wanted to pull the trigger.

Down the other end, Silva made the most of a loose ball outwide striking a cross goal shot that Fabianski did superbly well to guide past the post.

What’s that? A goalkeeper making the saves you don’t expect them to make? This was novel!

Adebayor took his opportunity to show us what £24million buys you these days… He managed to find himself offside (shocking) when he shouldn’t and even then he couldn’t find the net with Fabianski denying him with an incredible save.

Arshavin picked out Nasri from outwide with a floated cross field ball, the Frenchman cut it back to Cesc who slipped Chamakh in, City managed to disrupt the ball into the path of Alex Song who toe poked it first time into the far top corner! A ripping strike and a superb finish from the man who is determined not to be remembered as a holding midfielder.

Arsenal had caught wind that City had better possession stats and after the second goal decided to play keep ball for the rest of the game. City began to tire and just as the game was petering out, Nasri did well to keep the ball in play, he laid the ball into the path of Nik Bendtner who announced himself back in the Arsenal team with a cheeky finish past Joe Hart.

The final whistle blew up and Arsenal had taken three deserved points from the most expensively assembled team in the world. We fought hard, found our discipline and took our chances in what could be dubbed the first ugly win of the year. Last time we down to ten men, we were playing a bottom 3 team (Liverpool) and could only manage a draw.

There were some areas for concern. Despite Song scoring a superb goal, his overall game was very slack. He made unnecessary fouls and his passing was a little too Hollywood for me. He needs to rediscover the basics and work his game up from there. Johann Djourou had a shocking game in my opinion. His finishing up top was bad but in defence he was turned inside out on at least 3 occasions. That’s not good enough at this level and on another day we could have been severely punished. Arshavin seemed off the pace for large parts of the game today, but once again, he popped up with an assist… and he even tracked back!

On the plus side I thought Denilson played well. His passing was in the main pretty crisp, he was aggressive and he stood his ground well. Fabianski was excellent, the confidence is slowly ebbing back and he made three game changing saves. Exactly what I expect from an Arsenal goalkeeper. Nasri is growing into the player we’d all hoped and he stamped his mark on another match with a MoM performance. Cesc played to his normal high standards and Nik B scored.

In other more statistical news, we’ve picked up 7 points in away games we didn’t pick any points up in last year and we’re sitting very pretty at the top of the joint second place crowd.

A great day for Arsenal… next up, Newcastle!

Player Ratings (Spreadsheet document):

Fabianski: Made two top class saves when called upon. His kicks are enormous and he marshalled his box without any jitters. 8

Clichy: I don’t have the utmost confidence in him this year, I thought he should have done better on a few occasions and it seems his confidence is so low he doesn’t really involve himself going forward. 6

Sagna: A top game from our right back. He defended well and put in a couple of top class crosses. 7

Squillaci: A quiet game from the Frenchman. Wenger talks him up as a leader, I don’t really see that, I hardly notice him on the pitch and our backline looks as nervous as ever. 6

JD: Not his best game, he’s not very mobile which City took full advantage of today. He was good aerially though and obviously he’s strong. 5

Song: His passing was wild in the first half and his silly tackles don’t show any sign of abating. Another yellow card as well. I’m unsure whether he lacks discipline or he’s being told to get forward, either way, I’m not comfortable with it. I don’t think he’s got the attacking instinct to merit a confusing formation. On the positive side, his game improved drastically in the second half and he banged in a peach of a goal. He made the most passes for us yesterday with 82! 6.5

Cesc: The master puppeteer pulled all the right strings today but missed a penalty. He is so dangerous on and off the ball and he has those tattoo’s which seem to have given him an nasty edge, even in the after match interviews! 8.5

Denilson: Put in a solid performance today with some classy passing, some crunching tackles and some intelligent play. I personally think there is a great footballer waiting to break out. If we can see more performances like yesterdays, I’d happily see him in the side. He made the 2nd most passes yesterday and certainly played a deeper role than Song. 7

Nasri: Really showed up today, wanted the ball, worked his socks off and scored a fantastic goal. He’s blossoming this season and I’m excited to see where we end up with him. He pops up all over the pitch if which makes him a hugely dangerous player. 9

Arshavin: Terrible in the first half, he looks unfit and like he’s clearly struggling with some aspects of his game. However, you pay £15million for a player and they produce for you. He managed another assist today which opened the game up. 15 starts, 5 goals, 7assists. 6.5

Chamakh: We really can’t complain that we’ve missed Robin this season. This guy has all the right ingredients to keep us competitive up top. He’s strong, deceptively fast and he has a knack for getting fouled in all the right places. 7.5

Subs:

Rosicky: Didn’t put a foot wrong really. Still fit and its nearly November! 6

Bendtner: Glad we have another feather in our attacking cap. One that can come on a slot home with his first chance. That’s 50 career goals at 22. 6.5

Theo: Didn’t really have too much of the ball. 6

Geoff is on a blog holiday this week, so you’ve got my ramblings all week!

See you in the comments and maybe on twitter @Arsenal_Legrove !

440 Responses to “Arsenal punish 10-Man City with powerful display. Review and Ratings”

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  1. Sam

    Nasri – Le Champ – Deservingly. Cheers Pedro !

    I thought Denilson was very good yesterday. Even passing long with his left foot.

  2. Mayank

    Really surprised by Song’s chalkboard. Didn’t think he had such a good game.

    82 passes with only 4 unsuccessful. Most interceptions, 5. Most tackles won, 6. Plus a handy goal when we looked a bit vulnerable.

    You really can’t ask for more from a CM.

    Surprised he got a 6.5 tbh.

  3. ZARgooner Realist

    Is Chamakh now our first choice striker? When RVP returns will the two play together centrally or one pushed out to the side? Would that mean Bendtner always just back up? Hasn’t JET been earmarked for a central striking role as well? That would mean there is not much space for Vela to play as a central striker would it…. Walcott therefore always on the right wing? Wellington Silva fits where in this mix, as well?

    Obviously though this is an improbable situation given some of the aboves injury record…. but perhaps eludes to where people sit in the pecking order ie back up for back up…. and thus no need for them?

  4. Hadley

    Time for an apology to Fabianski and Wenger I think. Well done to Wenger for sticking to his guns when ‘supporters like you lot’ put his keeper who was only lacking a bit of confidence under unneccessary pressure

  5. kneelbeforewenger

    Not Once not twice but 3 times Fab stopped him in his tracks, He’s slow and I’m not sure he should be a winger.

  6. Ismaeel

    i’m liking this competition for places now
    arhavin rosiky diaby denilson fabregas wilshere nasri jet walcott vela chamakh bentder r.v.p

    loooovin ittttt

  7. gambon

    Do you know how fucking stupid you sound?

    Fabianskis count of good to bad games is about 3:30

    So did the win yesterday suddenly mean weve won 3 trophies in the last 5 years?

    Are you 7 years old? Half term innit?!!

  8. Pedro

    Mayank, it’s difficult to judge someone using chalk boards, they’re manual and I’m not even sure they’re manned by a professional.

    Quite often their stats are out by a lot. Not just that, but quality of pass isn’t measured and I’m pretty sure Song made more than 4 passes that were unsuccessful.

    Even the most ardent Song fan would struggle to say he had a great game yesterday.

  9. leon

    i see vela making at arsenal he cant play central striker and there 2 many players who more effective tham that can ply winger i think he will go out on loan or be sold

  10. ZARgooner Realist

    Lol…. way too soon to forget about Fabianski has done in the past but at least he is putting in an effort to redeem himself…. i think he is 5% there…. long way to go

  11. Supergunner07

    ade says:
    October 25, 2010 at 10:47

    chamack
    12 games
    6 goals
    4 assists
    6 penalties won
    4 red cards given for fouls on him
    work rate:his reward is in heaven.
    distance covered:unlimited

    so how are the likes of berbaflop better even if they are better finishers

    ———

    Spot on, all needs to do now is become efficient finisher on floor, his link-up play is very impressive as well. I don’t like criticizing AW but if only he had payed the £3m excess to get him 2 summers ago to win the league bcuz RVP was missing 4 a long time & MC is a certain improvement on Bendy. Those red cards are caused by MC making runs in behind as soon as they trying press & hold static high-line

  12. gambon

    Chamakh has been a revelation.

    He will never be a 30 goal striker, but i think he should get the nod over RVP, who maybe should be sold.

  13. Mayank

    Pedro, they may well be off a little but it’s an indicator nonetheless. Song Lost the ball a couple of times but I don’t think he made too many wayward passes.

    But still, he’s the only player we have in our team who tries to get between the player an the ball. The rest try to knock it away.

  14. MickyDidIt89

    Gambon,
    Please, please, pretty please in the name of humour and just for fun say something really really positive. I know this goes against all sound medical advive, but after me..straain, and heeeeve
    🙂

  15. Mayank

    RvP is still a much better striker than Chamakh. I can understand wanting to sell him because of his fitness but if available it’d be stupid to bench him for Chamakh.

    In tighter games RvP’s intelligence in dropping deep really comes through. We wouldn’t have lost against Chelsea with RvP in there.

  16. bnsb

    mayank

    RVP does not have those rocket shots in his legs anymore. Remember reading somewhere that his legs have turned to chocolate 🙂

  17. kneelbeforewenger

    Never should Chamakh get the nod ahead of Van Pegleg. Van Persie would Surely have scored the chances Chamakh had against Chelsea. I think they should play together.

  18. wardo

    Mickeydiditin89…..think Gambon said something pretty positive bout Chamakh @ 11:38

    Gambon, I hope Chamakh continues his good form. I think he is a brilliant player. I agree that he may not get the 30 goals a season but is a very good player. I don’t want RVP sold – i really dont……but, stats say he never gives us a ful season and this season will be another to add to that list of injured season (and by that i mean out for over 8 games a season)

  19. kc

    When Denilson hustles he is effective. I thought he played a good game yesterday. The hole in the line-up that is Diaby wasn’t there to halt our foward progression. Also I agree that Song needs to hang back. Ok he scored but the goal was right place right time, even one of our widebacks could have poked that home. Speaking of that Sagna sent a close shot wide similar to Clichy’s attempt last week that leads me to believe neither can shoot for piss. At least put the shot on frame boys.

  20. leon

    chamakh is great team player and real trouble maker but idont see him as a finisher that will score 20+ goals he is not as clinical as edwardo or rvp rvp is alot more direct and thats whats needed at times thats were thoe is good option

  21. Naija Gunner

    “…and he has a knack for getting fouled in all the right places”
    LMAO but couldn’t agree more. We need to be converting those free-kicks.

  22. SongtheGreat

    Mornin All….nice post Pedro…except for the fact that well Song was worldclass….and it should be easy to pick out the fact that Denilson was given the role as holding man,while Song was given the go ahead to ba more offensive….clearly give after citeh went down to ten men….
    and i must say We spanked them really good…citeh will never be as good as Arsenal was yesterday…lets hope this will be a turning point..

    MOTM….by far Song 🙂

  23. SongtheGreat

    and with no intention of barging in…RvP…should be sold…no question about it..we cant keep on carrying that crock…

  24. rico

    Afternoon all, great post Pedro…

    I am a massive Song fan, the first half I thought he was going to make sure we ended up 10 v 10, he was not good. Second half he was much better in fact they were all better in the second half… only in my humble opinion of course 😉

  25. bnsb

    Tony Cascarino believes Arsenal midfielder Samir Nasri is finally delivering on the potential he showcased as a youngster.
    The mercurial Frenchman was instrumental during the Gunners’ 3-0 victory over their Premier League rivals Manchester City yesterday, scoring one and assisting another, and Cascarino suggests the diminutive former Marseille star has obviously bulked up a touch in order to contend with the demands of English football.
    Cascarino told the Times: “Cesc Fàbregas gets most of the attention but Nasri is improving all the time and was excellent yesterday.
    “As a kid he was so talented he drew comparisons to Zinédine Zidane and now he’s physically stronger than he used to be.”
    Nasri’s goal yesterday was his seventh in all competitions, four of which have come in the Premier League.

  26. chris

    Maybe just maybe the Song attacking thing worked better because Denilson was hanging back????

    I din’t think Fabregas was at his best certainly passing but he is the driving force of the team.

    I also thought Djourou was OK – interesting to see Koscielny on the bench – and certainly miles better than a few weeks ago when he was looking very dodgy for the reserves.

  27. Pedro

    Chris, I’m hoping Rambo can come in and offer us the mobility to play 3 creative midfielders… we shall see!

    Say it quietly, but Song being better after 60mins might have something to do with the time the team was afforded when City tired…

  28. Supergunner07

    bnsb says:
    October 25, 2010 at 12:29

    Tony Cascarino believes Arsenal midfielder Samir Nasri is finally delivering on the potential he showcased as a youngster.
    The mercurial Frenchman was instrumental during the Gunners’ 3-0 victory over their Premier League rivals Manchester City yesterday, scoring one and assisting another, and Cascarino suggests the diminutive former Marseille star has obviously bulked up a touch in order to contend with the demands of English football.
    Cascarino told the Times: “Cesc Fàbregas gets most of the attention but Nasri is improving all the time and was excellent yesterday.
    “As a kid he was so talented he drew comparisons to Zinédine Zidane and now he’s physically stronger than he used to be.”
    Nasri’s goal yesterday was his seventh in all competitions, four of which have come in the Premier League.

    —-

    Nasri is good BUT not a patch on the best attacking mifielder in the world [CF4]

  29. chris

    I don’t want to have the Song argument another 10 times and of course I’d like it if Ramsey (or anyone on merit) came past him but at the moment he’s setting the benchmark and even if I think he’s leaving holes behind him, if the rest of the team can provide defensive cover (like a good team should) and he can create a genuine attacking threat to other teams they can’t stay as tight to Fabregas, Nasri, Arshavin and the better attackers.

  30. TOM TOM

    Nasri is looking really good and reminds me of Pires. If only we had a great defensive leader then we would have a very good team but we are looking ok at the moment. If we could keep up with Chelsea until the transfer window opens then make a few good signings we have a chance of winning the league

  31. Pedro

    Chris, Song had his best season last year and he didn’t bound forward half as much as he has done this year.

    This year, he’s getting forward but at the cost of defensive cover.

    Mikel doesn’t do that… Chelsea win titles. Cambiasso doesn’t do that, Inter win the Champions League.

    Arsenal didn’t really do that last year and Cesc was the most productive player in Europe.

  32. Goonerpower

    Good post Pedro, I wanted Fabianski as MoM, if he can keep this form up, the only way is up. He was up there yesterday, luv it, was a great inspiring win that might start the marching to the title………we in IMO certainly have a capable squad. The futures bright it’s red and white.

  33. Dutchman

    At the oment nasri is one of the best midfielders in the world. He is in fantastic form and deserves the credits. What a wonderfull player he is, maybe it is to early but at the moment nasri is one of the best midfielders.

  34. TOM TOM

    Just seen the penalty Rangers got yesterday against Celtic and it was an obvious dive,looks like cheating is creeping more and more into the game

  35. Supergunner07

    Pedro says:
    October 25, 2010 at 12:58

    Chris, Song had his best season last year and he didn’t bound forward half as much as he has done this year.

    This year, he’s getting forward but at the cost of defensive cover.

    Mikel doesn’t do that… Chelsea win titles. Cambiasso doesn’t do that, Inter win the Champions League.

    Arsenal didn’t really do that last year and Cesc was the most productive player in Europe.

    ——

    Its a change his role, he is used to press the ball much higher up-the-pitch thus he has committed the most fouls this season in the PL

    http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/10/20/arsenal-5-1-shakhtar/

    http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/10/20/arsenal-5-1-shakhtar/

  36. Brian

    Chamakh ahead of Van Persie for me. Heres the logic – look at what happened to Rosicky. He has rarely been given 90 minutes, meaning that he has been rarely on the treatment table. He has gone on to have brilliant and wonderful games for us and everyone is happy. We are not worried since he is looking sharp and there are little knocks and he gives us depth. Time to give RvP the same treatment.

  37. E9 Gunner

    I think for someone who missed a penalty, didnt get an assist or goal against 10 men. Doesnt deserve 8.5, Cesc played ok but not great. Fabianski deserves atleast an 8.5, for his clean sheet (with slack defenders) and his save in the begining which changed the game. Because with Man city 1-0 up they would of just defended their lead until the second half getting everyone behind the ball. That red card probably wouldnt of even happened! Apart from that I agree with the ratings.
    Gunner out

  38. Henristic

    Pedro, I’d say on this occasin at least, the Guardian’s stats are pretty accurate. I don’t recall Song making many stray passes yesterday, compared to any of our other midfielders.

    Our midfield and defence weren’t too great overall for spells in the first half and that wasn’t down to just Song. He wasn’t any worse than Denilson or Cesc for sure. I think that was because of how energetic City were for those periods, which somehow got to our players, hence the crazy tackling. Things cooled down in the second half and we could dictate the play better.

  39. Supergunner07

    Pedro says:
    October 25, 2010 at 13:06

    Supergunner, I wonder why as he doesn’t seem to have the pace to get back to chase?

    Reason is bcuz we like to hold higher line & while CF4 is a brilliant AM, sometimes he can be beaten in the 1v1 [he is 1st after the main striker to press the ball] but by using Song he more like to win the ball and even if he doesn’t he is strong to make sure the player doesnt get past to play the ball over the top against our high-line.

    Its basically moving players around to utilise so of their strengths in order to improve our defence

  40. wardo

    supergunner….looks like you credited Chamakh for our pen yesterday ???

    It was Cesc who was awarded the spot kick.

    Unless i have taken your comment incorrectly

  41. Pedro

    E9, he played the through ball to get the City man sent off, he won the penalty in the first place and his intelligence on and off the ball caused City problems all day.

  42. Supergunner07

    Henristic says:
    October 25, 2010 at 13:15

    Pedro, I’d say on this occasin at least, the Guardian’s stats are pretty accurate. I don’t recall Song making many stray passes yesterday, compared to any of our other midfielders.

    Our midfield and defence weren’t too great overall for spells in the first half and that wasn’t down to just Song. He wasn’t any worse than Denilson or Cesc for sure. I think that was because of how energetic City were for those periods, which somehow got to our players, hence the crazy tackling. Things cooled down in the second half and we could dictate the play better.

    —-

    We looked shaky on the counter bcuz our left is most of the time open for counter bcuz of Arsh’s lack of defensive capabilities thus when Diaby play on the left as part of the double pivot [2 DM], he gets thru so much work that by 65-70mins he so tired and his old customary slack passing begins

    Contrastingly on Tues, counter was less bcuz wasnt on the field but as so he came on, that was open plus Shak was more adventurous, even for 5mins AW swapped Wilshere to the left and put Arsh thru the middle to stem the attacks however as i said previously today, he offers us directness that drags more than 1 player to him offer space to his teammates and precision balls when he is on it

  43. gazzap

    My team for Wed

    Chezzer
    Ebway Kozzer JD/Squid Gibbs
    Lansbury Denilson JET
    Theo NB52 Vela

    Keep Nasri and Rosicky (and Chamakh) as subs if we need them. Give cesc and Arsh the day off.

  44. Henristic

    I hate to be sen as defending Song, as I don’t really rate him that much but what the heck…

    Pedro,

    Song doesn’t need pace to chase back because according to this new system, if he bombs forward, Denilson or Cesc is supposed to cover for him.

    I think we gooners have to start getting ours head around the fact that Song is no longer the type of DM Mikel is for Chelsea.

    His role has clearly changed this season and although I too had earlier misgivings I now really can’t see the downside. He stayed back last year and we still managed to concede 40+ goals. The fact that he’s going forward more often hasn’t led to less goals/assist from Cesc either, so what’s the problem?

  45. Pedro

    Henristic, we’re conceding more goals this year and you always need pace to track back.

    That’s why I think this formation idea has Rambo in mind…

  46. Supergunner07

    gazzap says:
    October 25, 2010 at 13:25

    My team for Wed

    Chezzer
    Ebway Kozzer JD/Squid Gibbs
    Lansbury Denilson JET
    Theo NB52 Vela

    Keep Nasri and Rosicky (and Chamakh) as subs if we need them. Give cesc and Arsh the day off.

    With Ameobi & Carrol’s height, Djourou will play and Toto getting a rest.

  47. wardo

    supergunner…..Arshavin tracked back a few times to tackle Tevez.

    Think our style of football leaves us open to counters…….. Sagna has a very very solid game yesterday but even he is instructed to support the attack

  48. wardo

    i have seen the Cesc booking a few times now and I stil can’t see anything wrong !!

    In fact, it looks like De Jong jumps into Cesc

    Cesc had no complaints tho which is confusing me big time.

    Anyone else see a kick or something i didn’t ???

  49. Supergunner07

    wardo says:
    October 25, 2010 at 13:33

    supergunner…..Arshavin tracked back a few times to tackle Tevez.

    Think our style of football leaves us open to counters…….. Sagna has a very very solid game yesterday but even he is instructed to support the attack

    Going back in to defend when you sense danger is not the same as tracking fullback almost everytime. Richards ran off more than 2 times in the 1st half alone which led to chances for Citeh.

    I will give a bit of research work to do if you have arsenal tv online, just look at goals we have conceded in the last 2 seasons [no need to watch every 90mins], check for which ones are counter-attacks and check which side they occurred on [left or right] and who is playing wide positions which counters are occurring.

    Even worse are hospital passes that makes in dangerous areas under no pressure. People are questioning him bcuz they know he is capable of so much more

  50. Man

    I remember Arshavin tracking back once, but its ok for now we won 3-0…that guy has to sort out his fitness. We are far more fluid with Rosicky but unfortunately less potent.

    I think we played better second half with Song going forward more..

    Whilst I’d like to see Chamakh being more selfish/clinical in front of goal I can forgive him for that. I’m not sure I’ve seen a striker win so many penalties in this many matches.

  51. DaleDaGooner

    Pedro good post UNTIL YOU GOT TO BASHING SONG, i see that no matter what Alex Song will always get a biased review from you and Geoff, NO MATTER what he does. His game was as abysmal as Cesc’s in the first half, I mean, good Lord, even Cesc claimed his game was not up to par as he missed a penalty and you still rated him well above a Song that actually started passing better than Cesc in the second half and even added a goal????? C’mon lets take off the blinkers and adjudge correctly. It’s highly visible that there is bias. The 3 midfielders did as poorly and as well to recover in the second half. The all contributed defensively (hence their yellow cards) and drove the team forward in a crisp passing move.

  52. SongtheGreat

    great work Chozzer…just brilliant mate ;..

    Pedro…well our probs defending yesterday was always down to Djourou…ive said it often before he is not good enough….we need to get Wermy fit again…

  53. Master P

    Too early to judge JD I think, he’s been out for so long, hopefully he can get atleast a good cup run this year, the boy will come good!

  54. Pedro

    Dale, you have Nigerian lineage don’t you? I think you’re far more likely to see Song with the blinkers on.

    Cesc won the penalty and created the opening for Chamakh to get Boyata sent off in the first half. He was far better than Song… who had a very poor first half and improved in the second.

  55. Master P

    Seriously, how can anyone compare Song to Cesc???

    Other than JD (who has been out for ages, so it doesn’t really count), I was watching Song play and all I could think isthat he wouldn’t look out of place at Preston North End.

    He does at the mighty Arsenal though.

  56. Brian

    Master P

    How long was Rosicky out? He came back and other than the knocks he had, you could see the class he had. Johan has a long way and I mean a long way to go. He was played not because he is good but because there was no option.
    He tried but he needs to work on his marking big big time.
    When Van Persie came from injury and played in the spud game you could see the quality.
    I bet when we finally welcome back Ramsey, the class will be seen there and then. I think that excuse that he was out injured does not hold water.

  57. west ham till i die

    ive seen some of your firm down my way. we turned your lot over . tell them if i ever see them on my patch again ial fill em in . your boys are soft . ICF till i die.

  58. Socrates

    My take on JD, his problem was over-estimating his pace, he was getting tight on Tevez who beat him not so much due to his skill but his pace. JD was getting close and Teves only had to hit the ball and run.

    Apart from that JD’s positioning I felt was good though difficult game to make a proper deceision as our defence was not overly stretched by the ten men.

  59. Melvyn

    It’s great to be proved right and sometimes it’s great to be proved wrong

    Proved right – I have repeatedly said with Fabianski it’s about confidence whereas Almunia it is about competence – a confident Fabianski is looking like a really decnt GK

    Proved wrong – I have also repeatedly said that NB52 is shit but that was a great finish and I hope he proves me wrong

    Still need to sort out JD and GC but we have TV and KG so hopefully we should be weakness free

  60. Master P

    Brain, Rosicky? The guy is world class and experienced.
    RvP? The same.
    Ramsey? An exception to the rule, the kid is pure class.
    JD….has very little experience. He is a good player with a lot of potential if he stays injury free and can get a decent run…but again, has had way too long out with injury.

    Class is permanent, form is temporary.

  61. goonermichael

    It was nice to have the option of Bendy and Theo back yesterday. We have a relatively fit squad now. I was talking to a spud yesterday and he was talking about thier injuries then said “I sound like an Arsenal fan”.

  62. Arse&Nose©

    Formatting messed up-Bendy should be middle, arshavin on left

    Pedro, I don’t think we should play aneke and afobe. we are taking the competition seriously and newcastle will give it 100%.

  63. Master P

    Brian, Rosicky and RvP are both world class players with experience.
    Ramsey is a wonderkid.

    JD will come good, he hasnt had hardly any playing time of late and has had a number of injusry set backs.
    He will come good, if he can get fitter and stronger, of that I’m sure.

    He is a very talented player. He would have been shipped out if that wasnt the case.

  64. Brian

    People understand that GC’c position is our weakest and they always exploit it to the fullest. He does not seem to be picking up the form that made us care less about cashley. I think that Gael has shown great commitment to the club and when he was on top of his game, and wanted by the likes of real madrid, he did not go. Even with his comments regarding the Cesc saga attest to that. And that my friends, is why he is getting more games than Kierran, who deserves to play ahead of him.

  65. Pedro

    A&N, if you’re going Bends central, then that makes sense.

    I saw that Aneke chap, is he the tall striker that looks in the Ade mold, or is that Afobe?

    I reckon we’ll beat Newcastle, but on their day, they can be a bit of a force. Carroll is a good striker, though a complete shit bag going by the press!

  66. Baafuor from Ghana

    I don’t know what game u were watching Pedro, but I think JD did well, he was virtually the only one playing in central defence.Squillaci was no where to be seen.He was quite shaky earlier on but as the game went on he picked up and I think he did well to keep Tevez relatively quiet and also won almost all the ariel balls.I also think Song was great and I don’t think he misplaced a lot passes like you said.Arshavin was rather sloppy and Cesc didn’t have a greta game.
    Denilson did well bar handling the ball a few times, and I was excited Diaby didn’t play.HE should be on the bench from now on.

  67. Socrates

    Wow Choy! Theres are a lot of players who need games, heres my team

    Chezzer
    Eboue Squid Kos Gibbs

    Lansbury Denilson Diaby

    Theo Bendy Rosicky

  68. Baafuor from Ghana

    Can somebody please tell me what the fuck is wrong with Chamack?He seems afraid to shoot the ball.He should really strat learning how to shoot.

  69. Baafuor from Ghana

    My team for the Toon game
    ……….Chezzer
    ….Eboue JD Kozzer Gibbs
    …..Landsbury Denilson
    ………Rosicky
    ……Walcott B52 Vela
    Sqiullaci needs a rest.

  70. DaleDaGooner

    Ha ha Pedro, The fact that i have Nigerian lineage has nothing to do with it, In fact i should even bash Song more…BUT, he did well in my opinion and he was as culpable as the other 2 when things weren’t going well. If he had not scored that second and Bendy the 3rd, chances are, Cesc missing the peno would have had us seen another Sunderland-esque collapse. Cesc passed well as expected of him, but it does not mean he played superbly he was clumsy in his challenges (just Like Song was in the first half) Song had a lot to add in the build up of play to each goals, so giving Cesc 8.5 and Song 2 less is very bias, considering one of them actually put us in the driver seat for the win.

  71. Brian

    Master P, u r literally accepting that he is not world class and thats what I wanted to clarify from u.

    But let him do a fabianski against Shitty ( am saying so coz much as am on the queue to buy a ticket to the fabianski train, am not at the counter yet. i will be when he does more of what he did. great that he is proving us all wrong at the moment)

  72. DeiseGooner

    team for the cup

    Chesney
    Eboue Djourou Kos Gibbs
    Lansbury Denilson Rosicky
    Theo B52 Vela

    id like to see JET get a run out too

  73. ZARgooner Realist

    Pedro… really also excited to see what Rambo will offer our midfield! REALLY excited….

    Could rambo, LJW and Cesc all play together in the midfield? Or do you need a Song/Denilson in there?

  74. choy

    We def need to put out a strong team and win at Newcastle.

    We have a good chance with only Utd being the strong team left!

  75. DeiseGooner

    Toto needs a rest A – hes the experienced one in there now that Verm is missing. JG needs game to get his sharpness and Kos is just back to fitness.

    But id hope to see a strong lineup – its still pretty much second choice players more or less and still is quite young overall

  76. Jaguar AKB

    I thought Wenger’s team selection was spot on yesterday and Song was brilliant. What a player. Well done to the team and Arsene Wenger. What an excellent manager.

  77. charybdis1966

    The poor little hammer is doing his best to keep us amused. From the content of his comments I’m guessing his balls will drop any year now.

  78. west ham till i die

    West Ham’s team this year has shown a total lack of heart. I mean honestly, jokes aside… you’re gonna trounce us.

    West Ham till we’re down more like!

    Then I’ll get a season ticket over Spurs!

  79. DaleDaGooner

    Pedro, when i say bias, i mean towards others compared to Song, you are willing to tolerate Denilson and Cesc when they are poor, but Song gets the stick everytime on this site.

  80. Pedro

    Zar, I think that’s the long term goal.

    Apparently Rambos stats are amazing in training and in games. He covers more ground than anyone, makes more tackles etc and he’s got that creative edge.

    I think he’s going to be an incredible player for us and I think he could play in that midfield.

  81. Pedro

    Dale, how often does Cesc play badly?

    I gave Song an 8 for the last game and was slated for it… now you’re giving me shit for always downgrading him?

    I mark how I see fit… not with any bias.

  82. ZARgooner Realist

    Good to hear Pedro… Massive fan of Rambo and before he got injured was establishing self as a first teamer

  83. DaleDaGooner

    Don’t get me wrong, i feel Song does not do as well as we would like, but Yesterday, he was as culpable as the others when it was all bad, and he was as good in the team.