Injuries – Bad luck or bad management?

by & filed under Uncategorized.

Well, we’re at that stage of the season again when the size of your squad and the intelligence of your forward planning comes to fruition.

Problem is, it seem we’re back where we always are, in an injury nightmare. So, it’s time to ask the question. Is it bad luck or is it bad management?

Lets investigate…

  • RvP: Impact injury whilst away on international duty.
  • Rambo: Impact injury against a scum bag thug.
  • Cesc: Impact injury against a 70’s porn star.
  • Nasri: Break (Last season)

So straight off you could say that is an outrageous amount of bad luck. 3 breaks in a year is definitely not the norm.

However, with the bad luck, I feel there has also been some poor management. I don’t believe in coincidence. If you have one bad year, you could let it go. If you have two, you’re pushing it… but if your staple excuse is injuries, you’ve got to address what’s happening.

  • Denilson: Stress fracture to the lower back caused by over training.
  • Gallas: Notorious for missing large chunks of the season, rushed back from injury. Collapsed before half time.
  • JD: Always injured. We’re aware, yet still count him as one of our 4 centre backs.
  • Arshavin: Rumoured to be semi fit going into the Barca game, out of the game within 25 minutes. To be fair, I don’t think he’s got it in him to be anything other than half fit.
  • Diaby: Rarely strings more than 4 games together.
  • Rosicky: Brittle body syndrome.
  • Eduardo: Hasn’t recovered his fitness in a year.
  • Theo: Injured more often than not.

So if a fan who has a full time job doing something else can spot the flaws in our system, why can’t Arsenal? Why are we now struggling to field a team capable of competing with Barcelona? Why didn’t we buyΒ  a decent back up centre back in the summer when we knew JD was out for a year?

Why doesn’t Arsene just equip the squad with an amount of players that could cover a crisis? It makes no sense. Wenger is intent on making it hard on himself which for me makes him look like a bad planner and opens him up to criticism. If he’d addressed this problem years ago, he’d probably have more trophies under the belt. Generally when we win a title, we’ve had a lucky season with the sick list…

Onto today, Sol Campbell is dropping to the back to partner Vermaelen. We don’t have many other options! Hopefully Wolves wont be too much of an exertion for him and he’ll be able to play against Barca on Tuesday. Rosicky will probably cover Nasri’s wide slot with the Frenchman taking the steering wheel in the middle. I’d hope there is a place for Theo and Eboue this week. They certainly deserve one!

I’m not sure I’m too fussed what happens today as long as 3 points is returned! I think we’ll destroy them and lets be fair, we need to do something with our decidedly weak goal difference. I’m hoping for a walloping! If you’re there today, make sure you sing loudΒ  and proud… we’ve got to win the next 6 and the 12th man will help pull us through!

Have a great day Grovers!

See you in the comments!

1,182 Responses to “Injuries – Bad luck or bad management?”

Jump to comment form ↓

  1. ethangunner

    AA23 Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 01:07

    Ethan
    and even WITH NO MONEY he’s kept us in the top four
    what a french wanker!!
    total shit!!
    —————————————–
    yes and prior to 6 years ago we were not out of the top 2.

    if sliding from a top 2 average to a top 4 average makes you sleep better at nite so be it ..

    Ranting in Hidden AKB tongue is proving ????

  2. incesc

    aa23 you keep calling me out

    had nothing constructive to come back at me at there.

    I apologised for my negativity

    i admit when im wrong

    i gave up today but it was a natural reaction.

    sorry

    muggy cunt…

    haha

    nice one

  3. AA23

    Incesc
    never had a problem with you before as a poster mate and still dont.
    and fair play you did call yourself out.
    No hard feelings. Sorry for being a dick

  4. AA23

    Duthcman
    i was taking the piss out of the general tone of posts you get on here at time.
    I think Bendtner is a top player and i have done for ages.
    its my way of saying “everyone says Nik is shit and yet he’s been getting very important goals for us”
    thats all.
    your posts are pretty shit though.
    just kidding, you dutch prick ya!

  5. ethangunner

    I agree wenger can make an average player , play in a unit very well .. he can maximize their limitations
    almost , making a player’s flaws invisible by his training / Branding of football !

    but there are other GREAT winning type managers out there also .. others Who win trophies , not just claim too .

    and wenger has failed to get us over the line now for a very long time .. he owe’s us …

    we THE FANS have been more than patient on this ship of fools !

  6. ethangunner

    notice Man Goo’ian goes off and hides in an AKB sanctuary during times of defeat πŸ™‚

    where do you go OH robin hood of the Arsenal world ?

    back too Sherwood with all the other wood ducks ?

  7. incesc

    sorry aa23

    goodnight mate

    i guess we are all abit insane if we come onto an arsenal blog and argue about something we all love obsessively at half one in the morning.

  8. incesc

    ethan

    remember when i got all aggressive with you after the ramsey incident?

    got a history of starting drunk legrove argument…. πŸ™‚

    where you from ethan??

  9. ethangunner

    MG

    you were almost 30 seconds away from not coming on tonight πŸ™‚

    but what a fuckin goal ! well done NIK – THEO – BIG AL !

    eboue is back to crap , and nasri needs to play 90 minutes of the next 5 remaining games with AA23 and who ever can make it back in time ..

    Also i will NEVER ask why DUDU isnt being used again πŸ™‚

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    and yes we are 3 points off but with an inferior goal dif, it might as well be 4 points !

    that means the Chavs need to fuck up twice !
    and if man U don’t drop any more points we will never get in front of them either .

    dont hold your breathe , unless you think winning the 3rd place cup gets you a REAL trophy πŸ™‚

  10. ManGoonian

    ethan;

    You missing me too?

    Jeez, I am very popular today… Erm, when did we get beat lately?

    We had a team out today that was good enough to beat Wolves. Some poor finishing meant it was a lot harder work than it should’ve been. Players needed a rest and given our huge injury list, that aint too surprising that Wenger didnt wanna risk even more casualities…

  11. ethangunner

    Pattaya was a little fishing village in the 60’s until the Yanks decided to make a marine base off an island here , and pumped a shite load of RnR money into the city during the Vietnam war …..

    now its an X-pats haven …

  12. ManGoonian

    WE are having to rely on the chavs fucking up, which isnt ideal, but until its mathmatically impossible, there is still a chance…

    Nasri has to play every game and Sol will be needed more now Gallas is fucked… Wouldn’t it be effin fantastic if RvP can get back and score the goals that win us the league???

  13. ethangunner

    that aint too surprising that Wenger didnt wanna risk even more casualities…
    ——————————
    saving them for what ? in the EPL there is no tomorrow matey !

    oh …
    Erm, when did we get beat lately?
    ——————————
    yes thats right the 2nd leg isnt over yet is it πŸ™‚ ?

    Imagine one thing for me MG , imagine us WINNING at Birmingham πŸ™‚ ?????

    2 points up , would have us 2nd .. then you could feel
    all warm and fuzzy … 4 points with 5 games to run
    is a MOUNTAIN …

    odds on ! will will finish 4th ..
    had wenger not rested players V birmingham . we would of no doubt stuffed em !

    play your best 11 every week !
    wenger WILL NOT LEARN , unless its the C.L πŸ™‚

  14. ethangunner

    the monetary motivation of staying in the C.L over a valid shot at silverware , in the EPL …

    sorry MG he might be pulling the wool over your eyes .
    but i see things for what they ARE . not what i hear from wenger ..

    we havcent achieved anytthing more when you take a look over the past 4 seasons ..

    it will be x2 = 4th spots
    x2 = 3rd spots .

    no silverware …
    continually ignoring gaping holes in the team …
    lack of transfer activity .
    not taking cups seriously ..

    its easy to see why others think differently dont you think ?

    how much longer are you going to be totally oblivious to the fact weve won fuck all for 6 years !??!!

    5 ish if you think the FA was a great spectacle .

  15. chris

    Face the facts….

    The team today was a big risk

    But we won

    The proof of the pudding is what happens in Barcelona

    Winning 3-0 today and then looking overcooked in the CL people here would be quick enough to complain.

    Of course we haven’t beaten anyone VERY good this year and Barca are VERY good –

    Do you want to give up then?
    There are people who think the CL is distracting us from the Prem, which we could los as a result of putting too much energy into Europe (maybe if Nasri started against Bham we might have won there too, then what would the table look like now – but that wouldn’t mean we would necessarily win the league).

    If you think we’re shit why would you be disappointed we’re scraping wins with half the first team out injured and half the others rested?

    Do you think we should have put the A team out for the FA Cup cos that’s all we are good enough to stand a chance of winning?

    Whatever else Chelsea did NOT win the league today, even though they’ve done the double over us and ManU.

  16. ethangunner

    chris
    If you think we’re shit why would you be disappointed we’re scraping wins with half the first team out injured and half the others rested?
    ———————————-
    problem is they didnt , they needed to come on to change the game ..

    because the side wenger chose at the start was SO OBVIOUSLY not good enough to get a result ..
    (or we would of prior to 94 minutes!)

    Theo tried but dudu is HOPELESS ! …most clinical in the League ,that still cracks me up πŸ™‚

    anyhooo , Chris like i said if we are as good as you say please focus your attention on the trophy cabinet , that doesnt lie πŸ™‚

    like some bloggers πŸ˜‰

  17. ManGoonian

    ethan;

    We have won 7 of our last 8 league games…. Thats championship winning form… Players need to be rested now and again, given our injuries, I would have thought that would be obvious…. We are trying to juggle picking a team that could win the game today and having a team that could get a result in barcelona on Tuesday night… The squad is lighter due to injuries to RvP, Cesc et al…

  18. ManGoonian

    Eduardo#s finishing was poor today, thats clear, if he was on his game, he should’ve scored the goals that would’ve made the game safe long before any need for reinforcements…

  19. sixx pac

    ethan, so all those years wenger was winning trophies he didnt care about the money? Are u trying to tell me that someone just told him one day that he doesnt have to win, he just needs to come fourth and qualify for cl to make money? Talk about wool over our eyes, you my friend need glasses

  20. ethangunner

    We have won 7 of our last 8 league games…. Thats championship winning form…
    ———————————————-
    who was game 9 and 10 ago ????

    what happened then ??

    we lost too both in game 9 and 10 .. and the table is an accurate reflection of WHO beat WHO ….

    and if your talking form , our goal difference used to be superior … now we are like -13 ….

    hmmm ok bud , whatever floats your delusional boat πŸ™‚

  21. ethangunner

    We have won 7 of our last 8 league games…. Thats championship winning form…
    —————————–
    yes im sure if we were in the CHAMPIONSHIP we would win πŸ™‚
    however this is the EPL . and you start disrespecting the Comp , youll get the desired results …

    FAILURE … on both fronts …

    we had our window of opportunity at the Brumby game , and we missed it .. it was a sacrificial lamb of the C.L aspirations .

  22. ethangunner

    sixx pac Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:10

    ethan, so all those years wenger was winning trophies he didnt care about the money?
    ———————————
    you will snap out of it sooner or later ..

    OK 6-pac WHERES THE TROPHIES THEN ???????????

    HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO??????????

    who is delusional ????

  23. ManGoonian

    Delusional???

    Last season we beat the mancs and chavs, this year we havent and we are alot better off…

    Your need to find fault and negativity aint my problem, its yours fella… Some people would be happy to grind out a win today, some would also be chuffed we came back from 2nil down to Barca to keep us in the tie, then there’s you…. Going on and on about the same old shite…

    If you cannot see the improvements this squad has made, even with all the missing players, and get some sense of satisfaction from it, then why even bother?

  24. ethangunner

    sixx pac Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:19

    ethan u win some and u lose some. How many games have utd lost this season?
    —————————————
    obviously LESS THAN US πŸ™‚

    as we are all equal on games and 2 points behind them ..

    just look at the EPL table .. you dont need my help Surely ! >?

  25. sixx pac

    our goal difference has never been superior. Our goals scored used to be more than both of them. However when you beat pompey 5 nil and an aston villa side that layed down like a fucking whore, ur bound to raise your goal difference. And our goal difference is not -13(lol), its +41. Think wat u were trying to say is we have 13 less goals than chelsea

  26. ethangunner

    Your need to find fault and negativity aint my problem, its yours fella…
    —————————————

    we literally got the result with the very last play of the day , if you think that is an AWESOME result AT HOME , too Wolves .. then yes im clearly delusional !

    FFS !

    there is a difference between REALITY and AKB dribble .
    and you are somewhere in the Ether …

  27. ManGoonian

    sixx pac;

    The humid Thai heat and sphyllus have wreaked havoc on poor ethan’s brittle mind fella… πŸ˜€

  28. ManGoonian

    ethan;

    Its all about the 3 points, nothing more… As I said earlier, when we won the league in 98 we had a fair few similar games; nervy cagey, ropey 1 nil victories…

  29. ManGoonian

    I will take a 95th minute winner vs barca, the spuds, Wigan, man City, Fulham, Blackburn right now, as well…

  30. ethangunner

    fuck its like feeding time at a mental institution !

    6 pac FUCK OFF ! … πŸ™‚

    im not as retarded as you look ….

    -13 means we need to score 13 you twat ! …

    we USED TO HAVE A SUPERIOR goal diff .. and we squandered it .. no need to doubt me look thru the weeks of the season ..

    SO MG’s we are in FORM ! is BS ! …

    if we WERE IN FORM ! we would have our goal diff still in tact !!!! THINK TWATS !, not drop it faster than MG’s draws at the blue oyster bar πŸ™‚

  31. ethangunner

    well put your money where your mouths are then !

    bet with some hard graft …..

    bet you cunts will shut up then πŸ™‚ !!!!

  32. ethangunner

    ManGoonian Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:33

    I will take a 95th minute winner vs barca, the spuds, Wigan, man City, Fulham, Blackburn right now, as well…
    ———————————————-
    well you had better hope big al can keep 6 clean sheets then you delusional git πŸ™‚

  33. ManGoonian

    If we were in form we wouldve won 7 or our last 8 league games… Oh, wait… Doh!!! Grinding out results, thats what we are doing…. Something we have been acused of not being able to do… But shit, that sounds too much like I am being positive about the team innit…. Shit, we cant be havin that now…

    AA23;

    ethan thinks by using a lot of CAPS and πŸ˜€ then that is as good as reasoned debate insight and logic…

  34. ethangunner

    AA23 Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:33

    Ethan’s never been one for FACTS!!!
    in FACT you could say he’s DELUSIONAL!!!
    —————————————
    put up then πŸ™‚

  35. ethangunner

    Something we have been acused of not being able to do…
    ————————————-
    WHAT ?

    fuck that wenger speech is 2 years old now mate you need new material !

    YES i think we have seen MORE than enough GRINDING results …

    lets start playing OUR football again shall we ?!

    oh thats right we dont have the quality…….

    still πŸ™‚

  36. chris

    Just to clarify what I’m saying

    The season isn’t over and saying we’ll win nothing and finish 3rd as if it’s done and dusted isn’t right.

    Even if that happens it is still a much better year than last year and the difference is a lot to do with Cesc and Song and Vermaelen and Diaby – and the strength of the squad who Top4 players or not are mainly better than last year and mainly will be better next year.
    For all everyone’s bitching about Song and Diaby and Eboue at first and then Bendtner and Denilson and Bendtner and now – well who’s left? Almunia and Theo and Sylvestre (ffs) The guy who could have given us more points had he played to his potential is Arshavin – it’s absolutely obvious imo.
    But he hasn’t and RvP had missed half a season from red hot form and now Cesc and Gallas are out too

    And yes today’s team looked worrying on paper and hadn’t scored by 70 minutes (although they’d done better than I thought they might) and he needed to send on the subs.
    But the team still has a chance and that’s because a lot of the guys have played well and they (and Wenger) deserve some credit for that.

    I’m absolutely not saying we’re the best team in the Prem but I am saying we’re getting better at least couldn’t we be saying
    “Thank fuck for Bendtner – that’s three times in the past three weeks maybe he does have something after all”
    or
    “The team looks stretched and lacking on paper but it’s still staying close to the leaders and actually closing the gap a bit – maybe there’s something better than I thought about them after all”

  37. ManGoonian

    Fuck that ethan, we’ve been told by lazy hacks and pundits that we couldnt handle the pressure, when it mattered, that we couldnt grind out results when playing poorly etc…

    But, its the bloggin equivalent of having to look after a Rain man type character conversing with you…

  38. ManGoonian

    sixx pac;

    I ought to have warned you…. ethan can NEVER EVER admit when he is wrong…. Now he is saying look at the tablke, as if that is what he said all along…

    Tis the curse of Rain Man…

  39. sixx pac

    not gonna respond to my last post are ya ethan? Its okay. Just fit in some other posts and nobody will see that u dont know what the fuck ur talking abt. U dont only lose points by losing a match

  40. ethangunner

    ManGoonian Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:44

    Fuck that ethan, we’ve been told by lazy hacks and pundits that we couldnt handle the pressure, when it mattered, that we couldnt grind out results when playing poorly etc…
    —————————
    ive always known this team is close MG , its about that extra step that never seems to be taken over a 5 year duration …

    its predictable , like Arsenals backbone when facing a tough challenge . it capsizes every fucking time ! ….

    if this is how you deal with it FINE ! …

    but dont tell me this club ARE winners !

    WHAT have they won precisely ?!

    id say the same reason you wont bet !

    i know your not that delusional ! so why blog like you are !!!??!?!?!?

  41. ethangunner

    ManGoonian Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:47

    sixx pac;

    I ought to have warned you…. ethan can NEVER EVER admit when he is wrong….
    ——————
    have a bet then !

    put up or shut up !

    you think Arsenal can win the EPL !

    fuck me you delusional gimp , ill take your money … 100 quid ?!

  42. ethangunner

    you think we can win anything with our captain OUT for the rest of the season ! and big Al in goals and all the marmites that are covering for AA23 – RVP-cesc- and others …

    ok put up your cash ! πŸ™‚

    we will see who is rain man – and who is broke :)!

  43. sixx pac

    ethan, check ur links before you post them.lol. That table says utd have lost 2 at home and 5 away(2+5=7). It says we have lost 2 at home and 4 away(2+4=6)

  44. ManGoonian

    ethan;

    What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that ramsey is soft for breaking his leg? How many times do the team need to score last minute winners, or come back from the brink to prove they have the mental strengths required?

    There are a huge amount of variables that need to be in your favour to win anything… Luck is one of them, maybe we will have it this season, maybe not, but its a fucking great ride all the same…

    If we beat the spuds next week, we will win the league!!!!

    Night dudes, Rain Man… πŸ˜€

  45. ethangunner

    wenger trys his best to sabotage us at every turn in the EPL !

    we have 5 more games of his tactics left ,
    and if we beat barca , long may his brilliant 1st team setups continue πŸ™‚

  46. ManGoonian

    ethan;

    Get BBK to put up the Β£100 he already owes me for the bet we had at the start of the season…

  47. ManGoonian

    ethangunner Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:59

    wenger trys his best to sabotage us at every turn in the EPL !
    _________________________

    You don’t seriously believe that now do you fella???

  48. ethangunner

    How many times do the team need to score last minute winners, or come back from the brink to prove they have the mental strengths required?

    it was only november dude !
    cant you remember how much mental strength we showed V’s the mancs and chev’s ?

    i think you really need to switch on !
    if im rain man , who was brilliant πŸ™‚

    your BoZo the Clown πŸ™‚

    seeya Bozo WHO DIDNT BET !

    πŸ™‚

  49. ManGoonian

    November???

    Oh jeeez, you are really struggling now aint you…. You mean just after RvP’s horrendous injury? That was a serious low point in our season, like when United got spanked 6-2 by Southampton one year, or 5-0 by newcastle another (or was it the same?) they still won the league that season…

    Best to move on I think fella, you are pissing in the wind….. Again! πŸ˜€

    Nighty night for real now…

  50. sixx pac

    Ethan come back when jaguar, franchise are here. They will build ur arguments for you. Without them your like Almunia against a Rory Delap long throw in

  51. nishanth

    Can’t understand how some say we got lucky yesterday.We dominated he whole game and created to enough chances to win the game easily by 4 goals.Scored a perfect late goal.If scoring a late goal can be termed as lucky ferguson’s successs is just pure luck

  52. ethangunner

    ManGoonian Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 03:02

    ethangunner Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 02:59

    wenger trys his best to sabotage us at every turn in the EPL !
    _________________________

    You don’t seriously believe that now do you fella???
    —————————————

    So why rest nasri ? on both EPL games ??
    nik .. and so obviously leave players out for the barca game ?!

    yeah ok mr brightside ..
    if you think wenger isnt prioritizing and playing his best 11 every time go on dreaming ..

    only fucker beating the same drum is you …

    Pure delusion … based upon … hmmmmm
    being 3rd ? ok … why dont you just bet then if its such a dead cert ?!

    because you like 6-pac whos gone quiet and aa23 that we will PROBABLY NO DOUBT LOSE !

    and i think the BBC website is real dont you ?

    and man U have won AWAY more than us so YES man U have won more than US !

  53. gnarleygeorge9

    According to the Barca website πŸ˜‰

    Barcelona striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic has been ruled out of Tuesday’s Champions League quarter-final second leg against Arsenal through injury.

    The Sweden international suffered a calf injury whilst warming-up for Saturday’s Primera Division clash with Athletic Bilbao and, after being replaced in the line-up by Bojan Krkic, underwent initial tests this evening.

  54. ethangunner

    i suppose its the reason they are still 2nd after just losing πŸ˜‰

    and we just won and we are still behind them ..

    what eva ‘delusional-mites’
    you wont bet so you honestly dont believe the your own shit you slinging ..

    its ok i know the truth …

  55. ethangunner

    Well 100 quid .. ARSENAL WIN – i pay you
    any other result ..

    pay me ..

    your saying they can do it !!!

    not me !!!!!!!

  56. ethangunner

    well at least your a man of honor AA !

    you back your convictions ..

    unlike others πŸ™‚ ..

    who are all piss and wind …

  57. nishanth

    Ethan-Selection against birmingham wasn’t that bad.Except maybe the inclusion of walcott.The team just didn’t click that day.

  58. sixx pac

    not gone quiet you moron. Okay Ethan, i will bet u that we will win the epl. How am i gonna get my money? 100 you say? Thats chicken feed

  59. chris

    ethangunner, it doesn’t make you clever or honourable to offer a fan who’s prepared to stand up for his team evens in a three horse race when the other teams havee a head start.
    It certainly doesn’t make you right if people aren’t prepared to come on and say
    Conversely it makes you Nostra- f-ing- damus if you can say the team CAN’T win the league.
    If you really believe that you shoud gine him 10 to one, you’d still be quids in cos you’re betting on a certainty.
    In the real world it’s not delusional to say they CAN win the league, it’s factual.

  60. AA23

    Ethan
    i’ll take 10 to 1 on 3rd or less
    so if we finish 4th then you get 100 pounds sterling.
    if i win you owe me 1000 pounds sterling.
    you in?

  61. chris

    Also, I think it’s a tiny bit mad to say Wenger wants the team to lose (I take this from your sabotage comment unless you meant something different).
    Otherwise how come they keep not losing.
    Is he some kind of mad magician who can control results so we’re always in the top 4 but only ever 3rd or fourth (or second this year if you think that’s possible, in which case why is 1st impossible?)
    But he has these powers and uses them to NOT win?
    I’m struggling with the logic, mate

  62. sixx pac

    you stupid dipshit. The question was never who had won more but who had lost more. Utd have lost more than we have and to some less credible opponents imo(fulham, burnley, villa,everton)

  63. YON

    ETHAN…. β”Œβˆ©β”(β—•_β—•)β”Œβˆ©β”

    Support your team you conspiracy theorist, always whinging, ungrateful, spoiled child.

  64. sixx pac

    just like ethan, conveniently changes what was said originally. Unfortunately, with wordpress, the comments are always there

  65. AA23

    some of the nonsense on here is pure quality.
    As chris points out Wenger is such a genius that he can ensure he comes 3rd or 4th but make sure he doesnt win or spend much money just so he can personally make a profit.
    If thats the case he’s far more of a genius than any of us dont give him credit for.
    Like how today he deliberately played a “rubbish” team to try and lose?
    what the fuck?

  66. ethangunner

    chris

    If you really believe that you shoud gine him 10 to one, you’d still be quids in cos you’re betting on a certainty.
    —————
    so are they πŸ˜‰

    IN THERE VIEW ITS ODDS ON ALSO !
    and your right time will make me right ..
    because while wenger still is in the hunt for

    ————————–

    sixx pac Says:
    April 4, 2010 at 03:44

    you stupid dipshit. The question was never who had won more but who had lost more. the C.L the EPL will always be the ugly sister , and this is what this bet is about !!!

    well last time i looked the EPL winner wasnt based on who lost least !

    Fuck what planet are you on ???
    its about how many you win !
    and by what margin !

    YON -FUCK OFF ! πŸ™‚

  67. ethangunner

    CHRIS :- not sure what happened to the rest of my post πŸ™‚

    …because while wenger still is in the hunt for .. the C.L he will always treat the EPL like the ugly sister …

    and thats what we are betting wenger faith !

  68. ethangunner

    Like how today he deliberately played a β€œrubbish” team to try and lose?
    what the fuck?
    —————————————-
    well answer me this then oh great 1 πŸ™‚

    why on the last 2 matches did we look crap until wenger injected the starters at 70 minutes ?!

    why on both occasions did they come in to score and claim the match for us ?!

    why couldnt his starting 11 do the business ?

    hmmmmm ?

    come on , i not dealing with 6-pac here AA !!!!!

  69. chris

    We are not betting Wenger faith, we are betting team faith

    Maybe we are even betting lack of faith in Manu and Chelsea.

    Basically, if today’s team can win and last week’s team despite Nasri and Cesc being off form was still very unlucky not to win, once the team has been drubbed by BNarcawith over a week to recover, why can’t the best team available in the only trophy left win all its games – I think that would take the league easy.
    On the other hand if the miracle of the Camp Nou occurs and the team beats Barca, then wouldn’t you think Wenger would be right to think it could win the whole thing and give it a proper go (even if it made the league harder)?

  70. chris

    Plus we didn’t look crap –
    We looked crap-ish on paper but we made loads of good chances.
    All of a sudden Nasri and Bendtner are the difference?
    Were you saying that after the Burnley game?
    It was a weak Arsenal team and if I was in charge I’d have played a stronger-looking team BUT they won, whether Wenger dodged a bullet or not.

  71. AA23

    Ethan
    Come on mate, I dont need to explain the importance of squad rotation do I?
    Look at Walcott today, great for 20 minutes then innefective. bringing him on as a sub works way better. Wenger knows this, we need to see it before we go “oh yeah…”
    we always talk about players needing games, what better game to give some players some gametime than Wolves at home?
    he can hardly play Cesc, Gallas, Van persie and AA23 now can he?
    Its why he’s the boss and we talk rubbish on a forum about what he does for a living.

    AA(KBTY)23

  72. gnarleygeorge9

    Rohan

    Sol got pretty excited. This stint back @ THOF is certainly agreeing with the big fella πŸ™‚

  73. chris

    Ethan’s getting a bit of stick for saying we’re shit, we’ll win f-all again (in fact I think he’s saying we are incapable of winning cos we’ll bottle it if w get the chance) and it’s somehow Wenger’s deliberate choice.
    He’s giving it back though.

  74. AA23

    Chris
    you wont get any sympathy from Gambon mate, he’s worse than Ethan.
    All we need now is Jaguar to show up and the three horsemen of the apocalypse are in full effect.
    Jaguar is a div though. the other two are actually alright.

  75. ethangunner

    nasri has been sublime recently !
    if you cant see it thats not my problem .

    and theo ! but partnering him with the out of form dudu could always be potentially lethal ..

    and nik has a bit of belief , i would of preferred him to slot one home over DUDU !
    odds – wise ….

    but wenger was scrooging the team for the Barca encounter ,resting them instead of putting the game to bed then bring them off ..
    anyone with eyes can see it ..

    that coupled with Almunia in goal pretty much assures us of nothing !

    you think we can sustain any sort of fight with our captain out the season !

    gallas – RVP – AA 23 out 3 plus weeks !

    good luck – yes im delusional πŸ™‚

  76. ethangunner

    As chris points out Wenger is such a genius that he can ensure he comes 3rd or 4th but make sure he doesnt win or spend much money just so he can personally make a profit.
    ——————————-
    im sure that comforts the fans finishing 3rd and 4th every year and spending nothing …

    yes every fans dream πŸ™‚

    all we need now is an empty trophy cabinet and things will be complete πŸ™‚

  77. AA23

    Finally Ethan admits he’s delusional!
    we know mate, its why we tolerate you.
    smiley would go here if I could do them

  78. ethangunner

    oh thats right for the past 5 years it has been πŸ™‚

    we have plenty of space for a 3rd place cup !

    and if you look below man Shitty is potentially 9 points behind us in 4th , with them to play if we lost it could be a 6 pointer for em !

    they wont be giving us an easy game either , or the spuds …

    i doubt we will get 6 points from that lot !
    not with our injuries and the fool in goals !

    keep it real !

  79. chris

    I’ll just say it like this and go to bed:

    In the Prem do you think there’s any game Spurs away, ManCity at home, Blackburn away, any of them when you will wake up on the day of the game and say we can’t win this today….
    Barring even more serious injuries, i think we’re favourites in every game. That doesn’t mean we’ll win tem but it means wcan – and so until we actually lose why shouldn’t people believe?

  80. zeus

    barca v Arsenal at the Nou Camp will separate the men from the boys. We won’t win obviously but lets hope by some miracle we can take them to the lottery that is the penalty shootout and we do them there.

    Tuesday could be very messy for us indeed.

  81. Rohan

    Even if I was a Wolves fan playing fucking Barcelona, I’d believe we had a chance and I’d get behind the team. That’s what being a fan is all about. Save all the whinging for after the season’s over…. What happened to all of you saying that you’d be happy if we challenged. Well, we’re doing just fucking that…imo, we have a better chance than Utd of going through to the semi-finals. This team has shown time and time again that they won’t just give up..If the fans can’t get behind them at this point in the campaign when we’re in the2 most important titles and in probably the best position the club has been in 6 years, I ask ye what the fuck is the point of being a fan??? This team has got 22/24 pts and drawn against probably the best team world football has seen in a long long time with them playing at their best and us beneath our best. Surely Nou Camp can’t be any worse…We’re finally showing some of that english bulldog spirit and fight…
    Come fucking on you red blooded gooners!! Grab you destiny!! March on to victory- Stand up for the champions!!!

  82. ethangunner

    ou will wake up on the day of the game and say we can’t win this today….
    Barring even more serious injuries, i think we’re favourites in every game.
    ———————————–
    well thats just out right delusion when it comes to Barcalona !! im glad we drew them , then wenger soon will have to focus on the League ! and thats what might save you AKB delusionals ..

    AND November when we faced Man U and the chev’s they had the mental edge and pummeled us like whipping boys !

    you should aim to beat those superior to you .
    not fold at the 1st hurdle !

    well soon ill be 200 quid richer πŸ™‚

  83. sixx pac

    3 horsemen? nice. Ethan, o Ethan. Wat woul u say abt the teams that we lost to compared to utd. Lets see: Arsenal (utd,chelsea,sunderland,city). Utd( Burnley, liverpool,chelsea,Fulham, Everton, villa). As far as i can see we are a more consistent side than the boys from manchester

  84. Rohan

    The Boy Wonder is coming back!!! This is a great time to be an Arsenal fan..we have probably the biggest game we have ever played coming up and we’re still in with a shout..Samir Nasri has to stand up and stake him claim as heir to Zidane..Can’t fucking wait.
    I don’t mind missing Arshavin, he has been a disappointment imo this season.Rosicky imo will do more in terms of work rate and overall creativity. Nasri is more than capable of taking over from Cesc and just might be better in Europe because of his superior turn of pace, dribbling and shooting.
    We’e played without Gallas for quite a long time now..The injury problems aren’t all that imo. As long as we can take our chances, we’ll always be in with a shout…

  85. ethangunner

    Rohan

    everyone has a bit of faith , but stupid delusional talk just puts the JINX on you .

    6 years of nothing has taught us …. NOTHING ?

    i love my team , but i know when we are up against it , and when it should be a cake walk !

    cake walk = wolves ? was it ????

    cake walk = birmingham ? was it ????

    Hard = Barca . but wenger focuses the full squad on them …

    then you have to consider , is staying in 4 more legs against tough teams to get to a final .. worth it ?and more importantly the odds of it ! / or focus on an achievable goal of winning 7 easy games if you keep your squad fit ?!

    SABOTAGE …. save all resources for the unattainable .. or the REMOTE !

    reckless ! if you expect me to be happy ..
    as ive realized this is the week we are out of everything soon youll guys catch up … you always do πŸ™‚

    later πŸ™‚

  86. ethangunner

    6-pac

    As far as i can see we are a more consistent side than the boys from manchester

    ————————————-
    as i used to do when i was playing basketball ,
    point to the score board ..

    it never lies , neither does the EPL table ..

    and if you want facts we have beaten the chev’s 1 time in 14 !!!!

    and this season we didnt have much luck with either of them in november !

    so be honest with yourself and stay humble !

    DIPSHIT πŸ™‚

  87. sixx pac

    i see a high scoring draw in spain. No arsh should make it better as clichy wont have to do all the defensive work. Rosicky will be great there

  88. sixx pac

    Ethan, this is what i asked you earlier. ” how many losses does utd have”. You answered: ” Obviously less than us because they have played 33 games and are above us in the table.” Now listen, dipshit,you obviously did not know that it was possible to lose more games than their rivals and still be ahead. The point i was proving is that utd have been very inconsistent and lucky(og). And just so you know, utd are out of europe this week. Barca rested just about everyone last night for our game

  89. ethangunner

    rohan

    on that ill agree with you πŸ™‚

    but i wouldnt of needed speeches i wouldhave done something called SPEND MONEY !

    i mean we had 26 mil from ade !

    toure – TV , SURE tit for tat sure ..

    in my world there would be no need for speeches πŸ™‚

    only SPENDING πŸ™‚

  90. ethangunner

    Ethan, this is what i asked you earlier. ” how many losses does utd have”. You answered: ” Obviously less than us because they have played 33 games and are above us in the table.
    —————————-
    your sounding like A !

    who gives a fuck !!!?!?!?
    look at the EPL table !
    how many more times do i need to say it ?..

    or if you want to ACTUALLY FUCKING COMPARE US to MAN U you have as recently as NOVEMBER 2009 to base precise measurements on how AHEAD we are !!!!

  91. sixx pac

    ur a fucking idiot. Jaguar, i can actually say is someone who hates wenger but you have no fucking sense.

  92. finestcuts

    Lets hope we get lucky, being lucky and believing that it’s nailed on are 2 different things. We must have 2 difficult league games ahead of us, Spuds and Citeh and even though we all expect to beat them, we all know they’re dangerous as well and are capable of doing us damage if we don’t put in our best performance.

    At the beginning of the season some, even on here (!) were questioning whether we’d be knocked out of the top 4!

  93. ethangunner

    6 pac your a fucking idiot ..
    your faith and love in wenger is rather pathetic .

    you are a DIP SHIT !

    a cock master πŸ™‚

    now you cant fight with facts you would just rather make up some competition in the League who looses LESS !@and start name calling … YOUR THE fucking dip shit of biblical proportions .. it will be good to take the money off you , but i doubt your good for it

    weasel !

  94. Micky Did It 89

    Fine sunny morning. Three points behind, with five to play.
    Chozzer: where are you when needed most. The morning after a victory should ALWAYS begin with a
    Trollollollollollolol..

  95. Micky Did It 89

    Look on the bright side. You are not a Spud, Eugene Terrablanche or a Catholic. Happy Days!
    Get in there Mr Nicholas Bendy.

  96. gazzap

    that last minute goal at St Andrews will ultimately cost us the league IMO. Chelsea wont drop points in two games out of five, no way will they. we’d have to win all 5 at the same time. Had we beaten Brum, we’s only need the chavs to drop points once.

  97. gazzap

    Karl Henry should have been on a yellow before that tackle on Rosicky so either way he should not have been on the pitch after that tackle. I saw a picture of Rosicky’s leg. it was bleeding in a couple of places where the studs had whacked him – Match of the Day failed to show that, as usual. whether henry got the ball or not, that was a dangerous tackle, that could have dont a lot more damage had Rosicky not ridden it so well.

  98. Rohan

    Rosicky Nasri and Diaby are key on Tuesday…I don’t see why we shouldn’t win if we’re clinical enough in front of goal.

  99. ethangunner

    mick got no problem with the last minute win πŸ™‚ .
    just some people dont have any perspective ..

    I would rather the goal was scored in the 1st minute of the game , than the last minute i can tell you that !

    if that is planning then i suppose i should commend wenger πŸ™‚

    i saw wenger on the side line from the 83rd minute he was fucking irate !
    he knew he was going down !

    you could see his panic .. ive seen it many times before .. if that was a well planed victory you can chew my leg off πŸ™‚