Stay with me, hold the line and on my command, unleash hell!

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That’s the battle cry tonight Grovers, straight from the greatest film ever made ‘Gladiator’.

The World make Liverpool favourites, so we have our backs to the wall, just like we did against the scousers in 89, Parma in Copenhagen, Madrid at the Bernabeu and Milan in the San Siro.

The common denominator in all of those games? We won, and with the team fired up after two worthless draws, we can go and win this, shut their obnoxious crowd up and leave them with nothing this season.

Win tonight and we can win at Old Trafford on Sunday and go on and win the double.

What we need today is positive vibes from all our supporters all over the world, the team will feel it if we shout loud enough, this season was meant to be ours, remember the last time we were written off with a young team? It was Real Madrid away in this same competition, we can do it, but you grovers need to do your bit, a fired up day on the blog and it’s ours I feel.

Onto Quaresma, they say we’re on for a cut price deal but I’m not convinced he’ll come to us when the others can pay more for his salary, I’m also not sure why they think because Porto are in trouble he’ll go cheap???

I think he would be perfect for us, as I think Ben Arfa or Benzema would be but if I had a choice, it would be a tough one, we can’t have them both as they have fallen out by all accounts.

I am going to pick my team for tonight but I’m not so sure he’ll agree, but here goes.


Eboue Gallas Senderos Clichy

Hleb Cesc Flamini Theo

Robin Ade

I picked Eboue over Kolo as I think he’s a better right back than Kolo, but not a lot between them, I’d favour Hleb out wide with Theo on the other side as one has impact, the other has something to make up for his decision not to shoot on Saturday.

Robin and Ade up front so we do a 4-4-2, I may be tempted to start Robin with Bendtner but he won’t drop Ade, he won’t drop Kolo either so in truth the team will probably look like this.


Kolo Gallas Senderos Clichy

Eboue Cesc Flamini Diaby

Ade Hleb

With Robin Theo and Bendtner on the bench with Hoyte.

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It’s a must win tonight, so get plenty of beer and wine inside you, strap yourself in and pray the boys read this!

Have a great night Grovers, we need it, England expects – Lord Nelson on the eve of Trafalgar!

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  1. Pedro

    Nice post Geoff, you’re loving the war theme!

    I think he is going the ‘Unleash’ Theo tonight! I’d go with your first line up!

    I also think we will win tonight… If we want to go through to the next round feared… lets do it with a nice little 3-0 number! Tonight’s result could give us the boost we need for Sundays trip to OT!

    I am going for 2-0 tonight…!

    Come on you Gooners!

  2. Odub

    GRREEAATT post Pedro!

    Dont agree with one thing though, Gladiator is not the best film ever made, Titanic is!!

    Just kidding The Godfather all day!! Not worried about the scousers, ‘we’ll make ’em an offer they can’t refuse!’

    I’m confident we’ll do them, they are a fairly limited side with regards to ability, and as long as Torres and Gerrard are nullified, we can do them!

    COME ON YOU REDS!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Steve

    It was a top post Geoff. To be fair though I barely needed rallying today. Could have done with something a little more tranquil and an attempt to put the game into context of life and death and all that. Now I’m thinking of Bill Shankley. Fucking nightmare this is.

    Bertie Mee said to Bill Shankley have you heard of the North Bank Highbury. Shanks said no I don’t think so, but i’ve heard of the Arsenal AGGRO.

  4. Odub

    Can we get as many jokes and film chats going as possible to alleviate the tension, the stress, the waiting!! Please!!

  5. Frichie

    Arrrrre you not entertained!!!!!!! Is what I want to hear when we beat Liverpool at Anfield and shut their supporters and Rafas gobs up!

    and then a huge roar of

    SPANIARD!! SPANIARD! SPANIARD!!! When Cesc scores the winner!!

    C’mon, Im not going to be able to concentrate today.

    Doubt AW will drop Toure, or Eboue (Why I have no idea) so expect Theo to get the bench…..AGAIN!

    I would be radical here and actually throw in Gilberto to partner Cesc, then bring Flam on for the second half as I see this one going into extra time.

  6. Pedro

    I am a man of extreme violence Odub? Only if someone steal my Peroni though… other than that, its all hippy clichés from me!


    Wooooo hooooo!

    Who would have thought that?

  7. Steve

    Here you go Odub. Old but Gold…….

    A man is in a queue at Tesco and sees this busty blonde staring at

    him, he can’t believe she is staring at him, then she starts waving.

    ‘Excuse me do I know you?’ he asks. ‘Yes I think you are the father of

    one of my kids’ she says.

    The man thinks back and remembers his one act of infidelity and says

    ‘F***ing hell are you the bird I shagged on me stag do, while your mate

    whipped me and your other mate stuck a brush up my arse?’

    ‘No’ she replies ‘I’m your son’s English teacher

  8. Steve

    Controversial, but probably fair………

    What’s the difference between Harold Shipman and Tony Blair?

    Shipman actually did something about NHS waiting lists.

  9. Steve

    Anyone watch the rezzies last night?? I switched on just as Traore scored a fucking scorcher. No backlift, 25 yards, top corner.

  10. Steve

    He played LW last night. Looked pretty good too. You have to weigh that up with the fact that it was the stiffs he was playing against. And yid stiffs at that.

  11. Pedro

    But he is a big fucker, skilful, lightning quick… and 18… he could be a serious option out there because lets be honest… he ain’t shifting Clichy in a hurry!

  12. Johnny Gooner

    Theres no way that the back four should be tampered with any more especially with the injuries we have…kolo and gallas are our centre backs and they should remain, they have more ability and pace and i dont think anyone wants to see senderos in a one on one with torres!! Eboue and clichy the full backs i think eboue can do a good job for us at right back, he hasnt been effective attacking lately so i think for him to slot into right back would be good for the team and just allow him to do his defensive duties….i think the team can get a early goal tonite and really put the shakes on the scousers, if they open up we will come into our own and go for the jugular and make this another classic european night!! WE ARE THE ARSENAL AFTER ALL AREN’T WE??!!

  13. Odub

    Conversation after saturdays game overheard during training yesterday….

    Hleb: “I had an open goal but still I didn’t score. I could kick myself.”

    Arsene: “I wouldn’t bother. You’d probably miss.”

    Harsh but funny!!

  14. chris

    great post, a tough day but we need the high tension to appreciate the feel of victory,

    anyone have a clip of last nights goal please do post ill look later but i doubt ill find it,
    C’mon Guys lets tear the roof off!!

  15. Odub

    young chris!! How are ya?! do you have a sore head today after yesterday’s festivities or did you let the side down?!

  16. Pedro

    I hear Fran Merida scored last night! He scored the winner against Hercules!

    Well played that man!

    So, do liverpool come out and play tonight… or do they dare contain?

  17. Steve

    If scuba comes on tell him to go to the Arkles at Anfield. Always packed with gooners and good for a bit of banter (generally light hearted). I just saw his post from yesterday evening asking where to go up there.

    I couldn’t get a fucking ticket as my away credits have diminished. 2,600 is all they gave us. Scouse cunts.

  18. Odub

    Good stuff chris, and sure to continue tonight I’m sure!!

    If anyone can find Merida’s goal as well as Traore’s please fell free to stick it on!

  19. gazzap

    I do not trust Eboue in a backs to the wall defensive performance. imagine being 1-0 up with 10 minutes to go and you can either have warrior Toure or cheating shirking Eboue at Right back, who do you want? I know the answer!
    Theo has to start. I have been saying that for weeks now. at least he started on Saturday.
    I just feel its very unlikely wenger will go 4-4-2 from the start. maybe after an hour he will but not from the start. expect Hleb in the hole.

  20. Odub

    Wife: ‘Football, football, football! That’s all you ever think about! If you said you were going to stay at home one Saturday afternoon to help with the house’ work, I think I’d drop dead from the shock!’

    Husband: ‘it’s no good trying to bribe me, dear.’

  21. Steve

    HAHAHAHAHHA like that Odub. A bit of riciprication is in order…………..

    A man says to his wife ‘tell me something that will make me happy and

    sad at the same time’.

    His wife replies ‘You’ve got a bigger dick than your brother’

  22. Steve

    A bride on her wedding night says to her husband ‘I must confess

    darling, I was a hooker!’.

    He says ‘That’s all right, dear. Your past is your past, but I must

    admit that I find it quite erotic. Tell me about it’.

    She replies, ‘Well, my name was Nigel, and I played for Wigan .’

  23. Mike (the neighbour)

    Great post Geoff -So it starts with Gladiator and ends with Nelson –
    I also like Leoniadas (300)

    “Unless I miss my guess, we’re in for one wild night. …….. Give them nothing! But take from them everything ”

    Great Joke steve really cheered me up that one
    Geoff is RVP fit -Physio says 19th for his return ?

  24. Odub

    A woman was reading a newspaper one morning and said A her husband,

    ‘Look at this, dear. There’s an article here about a man who traded his wife for a season ticket to Arsenal. You wouldn’t do a thing like that,-would you?’

    ‘Of course I wouldn’t!’ replied her husband. ‘The season’s almost over!’

  25. Geoff

    Try this one, it’s old but I like it.

    At dawn the telephone rings, ‘Hello, Senor Rod? This is Ernesto, the caretaker at your country house.’

    ‘Ah yes, Ernesto. What can I do for you? Is there a problem?’

    ‘Um, I am just calling to advise you, Senor Rod, that your parrot, he is dead’

    ‘My parrot? Dead? The one that won the International competition?’
    ‘Si, Senor, that’s the one.’

    ‘Damn! That’s a pity! I spent a small fortune on that bird. What did he die from?’

    ‘From eating the rotten meat, Senor Rod.’

    ‘Rotten meat? Who the hell fed him rotten meat?’

    ‘Nobody, Senor. He ate the meat of the dead horse.’

    ‘Dead horse? What dead horse?’

    ‘The thoroughbred, Senor Rod.’

    ‘My prize thoroughbred is dead?’

    ‘Yes Senor Rod, he died from all that work pulling the water cart.’

    ‘Are you insane?? What water cart?’

    ‘The one we used to put out the fire, Senor.’

    ‘Good Lord!! What fire are you talking about, man??’

    ‘The one at your house, Senor! A candle fell and the curtains caught on fire.’

    ‘What the hell?? Are you saying that my mansion is destroyed because of a candle?? !!’

    ‘Yes, Senor Rod.’

    ‘But there’s electricity at the house!! What was the candle for?’

    ‘For the funeral, Senor Rod.’


    ‘Your wife’s, Senor Rod’, she showed up very late one night and I thought she was a thief, so I hit her with your new tailor made Super Quad 460 golf club.’

    SILENCE . . . . . . . . . . . LONG SILENCE . . . . . . . . . .

    (wait for it…………………..)

    ‘Ernesto, if you broke that driver, you’re in deep shit!!’

  26. Mike (the neighbour)

    another good one steve -by the way they announce there is gonna be an hours tribute to Jeremy Beadle on TV soon

  27. Odub

    Joe always books two seats when he goes to watch a Chelsea game. That’s one to sit in and one to throw when the fighting starts.

  28. Steve

    I’d like to think that we all had a small hand in getting that tribute for Jeremy Beadle off the ground.

  29. Goona P

    I just think we need to play Theo down the middle his speed is his greatest asset Thierry used to score alot because no-one could catch him!!

    Without Eduardo & Van Persie not 100% surely this is the time to give Theo a go playing his natural position? for England U21’s hes always immense.. plus i think we lack a threat with through balls behind back 4, Adebayor has started to drift wide & come deep

    I’d go for first line-up with Theo instead of Robin upfront, Abou on left (repeat on Milan performance needed) Van Persie on bench incase we need him…

    c’mon tha gunners!!

  30. ScubaGooner

    Morning guys; good post Geoff, I’m taking that fighting spirit up the M6 with me this afternoon – unfortunately though won’t have too much of the other spirit as driving – fuck it!!

    Steve – saw your post; thanks mate, appreciate the tip, I will check it out. Bad news is – I had a spare ticket!!

    We’ll win – 2 – 0; Theo and Cesc to score


    WE’RE ON OUR WAY, WE’RE ON OUR WAY, WE’RE OFF TO MOSCOW, WE’RE ON WAY, etc, etc, etc, sing up you know the words!!

  31. Mike (the neighbour)

    Dont start them again steve -Im still waiting on a hernia op after that amazing day

    A blonde decides to do something wild she hasn’t done before, so she sets out to rent her first X-rated adult video. She goes to the video shop and, after looking around for a while, selects a title that sounds very stimulating.

    She drives home, lights some candles, slips into something comfortable, and puts the tape in the VCR. To her disappointment, there’s nothing but static on the screen, so she calls the video shop to complain.

    Blonde: “I just rented an adult movie from you and there’s nothing on the tape, but static.”

    Shop assistant: “Sorry about, that. We’ve had problems with some of those tapes. Which title did you rent?”

    Blonde says “It’s called ‘Head Cleaner.”

  32. AN Steve

    Just reading the post makes me want to get my weapon out!! Alan Smith got alot of stick yesterday for reminding everybody of 1989

  33. Steve

    L.O.L Mike, very funny. Easy to remember pissed too.

    It’s like the blond bird who complained to B+Q about a self assembled wardrobe. “I’ve been watching it for fucking hours and it hasn’t done a thing”

  34. AN Steve

    Two 90 year old men, Mike and Joe, have been friends all of their lives.

    When it’s clear that Joe is dying, Mike visits him every day. One day
    Mike says, “Joe, we both loved football all our lives, and we played football on Saturdays together for so many years. Please do me one favour, when you get to Heaven, somehow you must let me know if there’s football there.”

    Joe looks up at Mike from his death bed, “Mike, you’ve been my best
    friend for many years. If it’s at all possible, I’ll do this favour
    for you.”

    Shortly after that, Joe passes on.

    At midnight a couple of nights later, Mike is awakened from a sound
    sleep by a blinding flash of white light and a voice calling out to
    him, “Mike… Mike.”

    “Who is it?” asks Mike, sitting up suddenly, “Who is it?”

    “Mike– it’s me, Joe.”

    “You’re not Joe. Joe just died.”

    “I’m telling you, it’s me, Joe,” insists the voice.

    “Joe!! Where are you?”

    “In heaven”, replies Joe. “I have some really good news and a little
    bad news.”

    “Tell me the good news first,” says Mike.

    “The good news,” Joe says,” is that there’s football in heaven. Better
    yet, all of our old friends who died before us are here, too. Better
    than that, we’re all young again.

    Better still, it’s always spring time and it never rains or snows. And
    best of all, we can play football all we want, and we never get tired.”

    “That’s fantastic,” says Mike. “It’s beyond my wildest dreams! So
    what’s the bad news

    “You’re in the team for Tuesday.”

  35. Steve

    Wrighty has changed his tune today too. Remembered that he’s a Gooner at last. I reckon Geoff and Pedro payed him a visit. Done a bit of good cop, big bear cop on him.

  36. Pedro

    I feel like I did before Madrid… except not quite as scared.

    Quietly expectant sums up my mood!

    Is anyone else feeling penalties?

    AN Steve, do you have the link to the article, I didn’t read that one!

  37. AN Steve

    Off to a big sales meeting thank good I have something to take mind off this evening
    have to spend the evening in Cardiff abody know any good bars to watch the game?

  38. Odub

    trying not to think about it, but everytime I have a lull in mind switches back to tonight!! We’re gonna do them I just can’t think what the score will be!!

  39. Steve

    Go to the one we frequented on many a cup final, semi-final, community shield occassion. Big Wetherspoons place about 2 minutes from the Millenium Stadium. The place is fucking huge.

  40. Pedro

    Don’t go anywhere outside the city centre… me and Geoff were molested by two very inbred looking nurses in 2005…

    I think they have a big screen at the Celtic Manor? If not there are loads of good bars in town.

  41. jimmyfingers

    There’s some this side of the border

    Ironic that you have to pay to get into Wales over the Severn Bridge but not the other way. They missed a trick there: by the time you’re on your way out you’d be willing to pay almost anything

    More football, more tension. Cooking Mac and cheese for luck, then drinking shitloads of booze. Hopefully the of large amounts of booze and large amounts of cheese may combine into some euphoric hallucination of Arsenal thumping Liverpool so hard it’s grandchildren will have bruises creating momentum and a triumphant march to two titles

    Then hopefully I wake up and it’ll be true

  42. charybdis1966

    My mood is a mixture of resigned acceptance with a a little “hoping against hope” optimism. It’s just our form of late has been a bit pants and I know the Anfield is a bit hyped, but I think the ref will be a Bart Simpson’s dad.

  43. gazzap

    Our defence lately has been leakier than a colander so dont expect a clean sheet. Pool to go 1-0 up, us to get either one or two later goals. then either we win or penalties. Theo to score.
    I keep getting these shooting pangs of adrenalin. I will be literally shaking by kick off as usual on these big occasions.

  44. jimmyfingers

    Just written a really excellent reply and lost it all. Arseburgers

    Geoff goes with Gladiator, I’ll run with 300

    Defeat to Liverpool and ignomy this season cast a long shadow over us, blotting out the sun

    So we’ll fight in the shade

    Everyone grow a beard

  45. Odub

    Fuck the Anfield atmosphere crap, what matters is us scoring first, we do that and 40,000 bellowing scousers will suddenly go quiet! Game on from there!

  46. ethan_gunner


    posted them yesterday but im sure no one read them !
    least they poke fun at the Scowser !

    Q: What’s is the difference between Pamela Anderson and the Liverpool goal?
    A: Pam’s only got two tits in front of her

    Q: Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, an intelligent Liverpool supporter and an
    old drunk are walking down the street together when simultaneously they
    each spot a fifty quid note. Who gets it?
    A: The old drunk, of course – the other 3 are mythical creatures.

    Q: What do Pool Fans and sperm have in common?
    A: One in 2,000,000 has a chance of becoming a human being.

    A father and son were eating breakfast. The fathers newspaper had the headline “Van Gogh sold for £8 million”.
    The son asked “is he worth it, Dad?”, to which the father, surprised at his son’s interest in fine art, replied “I suppose so, son. Why do you ask?”
    The son said “Well, Liverpool paid more than that for Stan Collymore, and he was crap”

    Q: What do you get if you cross a Monkey with a Liverpudlian?
    A: Nothing. The monkeys are far too clever to screw a Liverpudlian.

    Q: What is the difference between a battery and a Scowser fan?
    A: A battery has a positive side.

    Rafa Benitez was wheeling his shopping trolley across the supermarket
    car park when he noticed an old lady struggling with her bags of shopping.
    He stopped and asked, “Can you manage dear?” to which the old lady replied,
    “no way you got yourself into this mess, don’t ask me to sort it out!”

    A Liverpool fan, an Arsenal fan and a Man Utd fan were all in Saudi Arabia,
    sharing a smuggled crate of booze.
    All of a sudden Saudi police rushed in and arrested them. The mere possession
    of alcohol is a severe offense in Saudi Arabia, so for the terrible crime of
    actually being caught consuming the booze, they were sentenced to death! However,
    after many months and with the help of very good lawyers, they were able to
    successfully appeal their sentence down to life imprisonment.
    By a stroke of luck, it was a Saudi national holiday the day their trial finished,
    and the extremely benevolent Sheik decided they could be released after receiving
    just 20 lashes each of the whip. As they were preparing for their punishment, the
    Sheik suddenly said: “It’s my first wife’s birthday today, and she has asked me
    to allow each of you one wish before your whipping.”

    The Man Utd fan was first in line (he had drunk the least), so he thought about
    this for a while and then said: Please tie a pillow to my back.” This was done,
    but the pillow only lasted 10 lashes before the whip went through. The Man Utd
    fan had to be carried away bleeding and crying with pain when the punishment was done.

    The Liverpool fan was next up (he almost finished a half-can), and after watching the
    scene, said: “Choice! Please fix two pillows on my back.” But even two pillows could
    only take 15 lashes before the whip went through again.
    The Arsenal fan was the last one up (he had finished off the crate), but before
    he could say anything, the Sheik turned to him and said: “You are from a most
    beautiful part of the world, your city has some of the best and most loyal football
    fans in the world.(COUGH !) For this, you may have two wishes!”
    “Cheers mate, your Most Royal and Merciful highness”, The Arsenal fan replies.
    “In recognition of your kindness, my first wish is that you give me not 20, but 100
    “Not only are you an honorable, handsome and powerful man, you are also very brave.
    “The Sheik says with an admiring look on his face. “If 100 lashes is what you desire,
    then so be it. And your second wish? What is it to be?” the Sheik asks.
    “Please tie the Liverpool fan to my back.”

    Rafa Benitez has this morning explained why he continues to play the rotation system.
    He says it’s the keep the burglars guessing, who’s at home or who’s in the team.

    Two boys are playing football in the park when one of them is attacked by a rottweiler.
    Thinking quickly, his friend rips a plank of wood from a fence, forces it into the dog’s
    collar and twists it, breaking the dog’s neck. All the while, a newspaper reporter who
    was taking a stroll through the park is watching. He rushes over, introduces himself
    and takes out his pad and pencil to start his story for the next edition.
    He writes, “Manchester City fan saves friend from vicious animal.”
    The boy interrupts: “But I’m not a City fan.”
    The reporter starts again: “Manchester United fan saves friend from horrific attack.”
    The boy interrupts again: “I’m not a United fan either.”
    The reporter asks: “Who do you support, then?”
    “Liverpool,” replies the boy.
    The headline the next day: “Scouser bastard brat kills family pet”

  47. Steve

    I was up there in October and the atmosphere from the homies was shit. I’ve been there before and it’s been electric. It’s the same as any other ground when all said and done. If they’re doing well the crowd get behind them and if they’re struggling the crowd will be on their backs. All this hype of the scouse fans fucks me right off. Giro collecting, hub-cap stealing, Boris Johnson hating, leo sayer wig wearing shell suit cunts.

  48. Ollie

    hey guys… damn internet troubles meant i havnt been able to be on recently.. Great post Geoff, maybe the boys will fight liverpool to the death.. I have the felling its going to go to penalties, for some reason. If it did, is that good or bad?

  49. Ollie

    oh, im goin 2-1 arsenal if theres no penalties, (hopefully). Hope all you’s going to the game have a great night, ill be watching from Oz, on the telly…

  50. chris

    ollie penalties would be a bad thing for me, home advantage in that regard plus a mature goal keeper, it wont come to that anyway, i feel

  51. gazzap

    Found this on another blog:
    NET Spending by the PL Top 5 since Jan 1992:

    Net Spend 1992/93 to 2007/2008 Seasons

    ……………… Total Net …………………. Average Per Year
    Chelsea …..£341,670,000 ………….£22,778,000
    Liverpool …£178,810,000 ………….£11,920,667
    Newcastle United £142,221,000 ..£9,481,400
    Manchester United £160,359,500.. £10,690,633
    Tottenham ..£116,877,500 ………….£7,791,833

    Arsenal …….£55,276,000 …………….£3,685,067

    Fergie V Benitez V Mourinho V Jol V Wenger V Newcastle Total Net Average per year

    …………………….Net Spend 04/05 to 07/08 Season…average per season
    Mourinho ……….£162,930,000 …………………………….£54,310,000
    Benitez ………….£87,670,000 ………………………………£29,223,333
    Fergie ……………£79,170,000 ………………………………£26,390,000
    Newcastle United£51,850,000 ……………………………£17,283,333
    Jol ………………….£57,050,000 ……………………………£19,016,667

    Wenger………….. £4,120,000………………………………. £1,373,333

    If you look at the league for money spent on players in the last five years. You will see that Arsenal are 18th and Liverpool are 2nd. Chelsea are 1st.

  52. Odub

    So are we surprised we havent won anything in almost 3 years?! When all we do is buy boy scouts on the cheap?!!

  53. Geoff

    Good post, I’m not saying be like them but fucking hell, spend more than that, It would be interesting to see a chart with how much clubs charge their fans, I bet we’d win that one hands down!

  54. jimmyfingers

    THISH ISH ARSHE-NAL [Scottish accent despite it being Ancient Greece]

    Que terror of Benitez’s face and he and the scally team are kicked down a Champion’s League exit shaped hole

    Yep Geoff, tis what I was getting at!

    Seriously, if there’s a team that deserves to do well in Europe, Liverpool ain’t. Haven’t been Champions pretty much since the Big Bang, and despite mediocre to poor domestic form and managed to get to two finals and win one of them, leading Scouser fans to proclaim themselves the best team in Europe ignoring the fact they finished fifth that year and had one of the worst away records since records began. And it’s pretty much the same this year. As Jay (as in jay and Silent Bob) says, fuck them. Fuck them in their fucking arses

  55. charybdis1966

    Gazzap’s post proves the difference between being economical and achieving value for money.

    Or put another way, you get what you pay for.

    Conclusion: FFS spend on quality Wenger !!!

  56. Pedro

    When people write in and say… look at Newcastle and Spurs they are missing the point.

    We have a great manager who would spend the money well.

    I wouldn’t feel to comfortable with a £300 million outlay, but we should at least be investing to the same level as Spurs!

    Money doesn’t always buy you success, but it allows you to fight on more than one front!

    I wonder if Wengers contract is linked into the financial success of Arsenal? Like a gainshare type of thing?

    He reckons he doesn’t have share options… but he must get something more than just a standard contract?

  57. ethan_gunner

    If you look at the league for money spent on players in the last five years. You will see that Arsenal are 18th and Liverpool are 2nd. Chelsea are 1st.

    are you trying to justify why we have won nothing for several years Gaz? ?
    anyhow im trying to be positive !

    The key tonight is to retain possession ! control the center and keep it tight at the back
    if we can do that we have a chance ! they will of course get chances .. we just have to get some goals off set pieces . Hopefully get theo to make some chances .. and PRAY ade doesn’t give possession away by being off side and ensure he passes back instead of running into a dead end .. feed RVP the ball and cross fingers…

  58. Odub

    Never seen the films, although anyone who appears in an afroman video about getting high is fine by me!

    Not going any quicker this afternoon is it?!! might just change my mind and go down the boozer for something to do because I cant actually focus on work at the mo!!

  59. chris

    downlaod/rent dogma odub, its a good digestable way of getting to know jay and silent bob and prety funny as well, not for the religioulsy minded however,
    for me it super,

  60. ethan_gunner

    perdo ,
    im sure wenger has bonuses for keeping under budget (the more under budget the more bonuses).. what manager doesn’t ???
    its a case of giving the board dividends . and if you meet the targets you will get a financial gain .. what big corporation wouldn’t ???

  61. jimmyfingers

    Geoff, I fucked it up!

    It should have been:

    Benitez: Our long balls will blot out the sun

    Cesc: Then we’ll fight in the shade

    I am now texting that to everyone I know

  62. Odub

    have seen trailers, never got round to seeing it, will add it to my must see list, cheers mate. More of an animated, comic book and mafia gangland film buff myself.


    An Asian man walked into the currency exchange in New York with 2000 yen and walked out with $19.

    The following week, he walked in with 2000 yen, and but was handed only $18. He asked the teller why he got less money than he got last week. The teller said, “Fluctuations.”

    The Asian man stormed out, but just before slamming the door, he turned around and said, “Fluc you Amelicans too!”

  63. Pedro

    It makes sense Ethan? You wouldn’t intentionally put yourself in trouble unless there was a gain?

    Or is that just a really shitty thing to assume about the manager?

    So 4-5-1 or 4-4-2 tonight?

    Start with Ade on his own… Ade and Nikki B… Ade – RvP…. Ade – Walcott?

    Did anyone read ANR? He was talking about No one runnning over to hug Nikki B after his Liverpool goal bar Theo!

    Does anyone else think he’ll be off in the summer?

  64. chris

    lol odub,
    avoid cloverfield downloaded it friday and its good but not good enough imo, u must be looking forward to iron man so,

  65. Odub

    another one!

    A man in a hotel lobby wants to ask the clerk a question. As he turns to go to the front desk, he accidentally bumps into a woman beside him and as he does, his elbow hits her breast. They are both quite startled.

    The man turns to her and says, “Ma’am, if your heart is as soft as your breast, I know you’ll forgive me.”

    She replies, “If your penis is as hard as your elbow, I’m in Room 1221.”

  66. BB

    pedro .. the bloke is from Alsace .. prob the worst cross breed of any definition .. they speak German where he comes from..imagine that .. a French who speaks bloody German

    he gets sexually aroused when he looks at his account balance .. he will get hard .. believe me .. his religion is stingyness.. thats how they fukking are over there..

    evry so often, he will spend a bit..but it must always look like its a bargain

    thats what he does with transfers too.. always a little bargain

    me think Tesco should use him for their ads campaign

    u know the story .. every little thing helps ..

  67. Odub

    Chris, looking forward to that, the new hulk with ed norton and wolverine. I maybe 36, but I become 10 again when comics I used to read come to life! Also an avid simpson nut, sad I know but dont give a hoot!

    I’m an Arsenal fan, makes up for all of it!! I support a proper football club! One that will make mincemeat of the scousers tonight and proceed to do the same to Fernabache in the next round (I forsee a shock at SB tonight as well!)

  68. chris

    downey looks fuckin well funny in the trailers, the becoming iron man seems a bit OTT though but it should be worth a gander, hulk looks good 2, havent seen clips for wolverine, a final point and sorry if i am boring anyone but did you let the credits roll on xmen 3 apartantly at the end it has proff x in hospital might be old news to u but i only heard at the weekend

  69. jimmyfingers

    Odub if you’re into comics then you must have seen 300, based on a comic by Frank Millar, author of the classic DR and Quinch and regular contributer to 2000AD, including ABC Warriors. Also wrote Sin City, which I trust you’ve also seen. If not I’m coming round to give you a cockpunch

  70. Odub

    chris when I saw X3 in the cinema, some cunt coming out of the previous showing ruined it for all of us, because he came out and was shrieking to his bird about how he was so fucking glad they stayed to the end of the fucking credits to see Prof X in hospital!!
    Thank you very much you tool!!

    Jimmy seen both! Great films. Especially liked Elijah Woods Assasin in sin city, what a creep! And the line ‘this is sparta!’ will live forever!!! So no need for the cockpunch!

    Pedro, indulge us for a few seconds, the nerves are frayed big time, need to take mind off tonight briefly!

  71. jimmyfingers

    The Yellow Bastard was worse

    Right off to get some sun on my skin and fresh air in my lungs accompanied by two extremelystupid lurchers. I’ll shall endeavour to return later on. Cheers lads!

  72. Pedro

    Ok Odub… the 300 was excellent and Sin City was one of my favourites. I hope they don’t ruin it with Sin City 2.

    Thats all you’re getting from me regarding comics… I’m off for a great big fuck off subway… that will calm me.

  73. gazzap

    I bet wengers bank account shows that he just saves and saves and saves.
    Banque d’Alsace.
    IN Salary £6,300,000,
    OUT BHS underwear £3.50 (sale), Primark shirts £4.00, Bargain City Suit (£19).
    Balance £6,299,973.50

    Would love to be his daughter. the inheritance she stands to gain!

  74. andy c

    well ive got too study engineering design for the next four hours, fuck me its gonna drag, but after that its straight down the boozer for a pre match warm up, 2-1 the gunners, come on!

  75. Pedro

    Good luck with that Andy… concentration will be tough!

    Gazzap, Wenger is taking it to the grave… his poor daughter…

    This day is dragging badly…

  76. Pedro

    BB… arsenal put anything you earn over £1million into off shore accounts so you pay fuck all tax!


  77. Pedro

    haha! Yeah, I did read a few years ago that we were being probed regarding the way we pay wages.

    If you earn that much money, you should have to pay your fair whack of taxes like the rest of us.

    Its not like they do anything good with their money… bar Rosicky… 7 Prostitutes in a hotel room is pretty legendary!

    Remember that, “Donate a days wages” charity thing? Apparently about 80% of the footballers haven’t paid up.

    Tight cunts.

  78. BB

    fukk Pedro .. I forgot that story .. a bit of a player our old lame Czech Porn Mozart

    wonder how his harmstring held 2gether there then!!

    maybe he needs 7 to take him him 1/2 way up

  79. Odub

    How can you say that Pedro!!

    Footballers spend their money on good ventures all the time! They donate to charities like Bentley,Aston Martin, Ferrari,Range Rover and many others!

    Without them these establishments would invarably go out of business!

  80. Pedro

    I heard Rosicky was indulging in the kneeling rifleman position… thats why his hammys are fucked!

    Odub, I never realised footballers were so charitable!

  81. BB

    read on some useless website that Hleb is Inter’s number two target after Diego Capel from shitty Sevilla?? u reckon we might get a goalscorer in then?
    not somebody else suffering from compulsory never shoot disorder

  82. Odub

    You learn something new everyday my learned friend!!

    just seen a report online saying TH14 is being put up for sale at the end of the season… then noticed the report was credited to the daily star..

  83. ethan_gunner

    pedro every major company ive worked with has that arrangement .
    Its a way to ensure that your managers do the best for the company , and ensure profits.
    Mining , casino , building industries all work on targets and give bonuses accordingly .
    I would think a football club is even more so .. Especially when wenger holds the checkbook and a manager can potentially drain the club dry if he uses all funds given to him in a fiscal year ..

    You cant tell me Wenger doesn’t get 100 000 here and there for not using there transfer budget every year … Credit too him we are still in the top 4 .. but i think he needs to realize who he is competing against ..

  84. ethan_gunner

    The problem is wenger sits in on the board meetings and gets tied up in the clubs accounts .. He should concentrate on the players on the pitch and getting class players thru the door ! Not get caught up in the boardroom antics , as im sure he has in the past and is there for reluctant to spend !
    Plus he thinks his way is the best way of acquiring players on the cheap ! .He has only adopted this style in the past 3 or 4 seasons .. Buying them at 16 etc…
    to me he needs to go back and get 22-23 year old potential .. Who dont take to long to bear fruit !

    sagna being a prime example . Plus i think Hleb is a great player .. who has got better every season with us .. He’s not there to score goals he’s there to marshal the troupes .
    our strikers should be scoring goals !

    Its the same as saying id rather eboue take a penalty than RVP !
    our midfield distribute and the strikers dispatch !

    and if we look at recently there are a lot of back up orders WAITING to be dispatched !

  85. Geoff

    They need to remember who’s money it is, it’s ours, the shareholders don’t get any, I know that for a fact, so what’s the point in not spending, if Wenger used his footballing knowledge to buy great players, we would be dominating Europe, year in, year out.

  86. ethan_gunner


    i would’nt put it past them !
    when will these top Spanish clubs realize that very few players can play well in there league after coming from the EPL ! .. Its made arsenal lots of money in the past ..
    Im sure if it happened arsene would be getting a phone call , wouldnt you ??

  87. ethan_gunner

    Well if the clubs coffers are over filling with loot the shares must go up ?!
    as the clubs capital worth must be getting higher ..

    it must make share prices go up surely ?

    wish i owned some …
    or maybe not , if we keep winning nothing …

  88. charybdis1966

    Ethan gooner, it’s not just cash levels that effect share pirice – it’s the potential earning power of a company that does. If AFC have lots of cash but are not cxontenders for honurs in the medium term, investors will realise that the fan base will shrink, attendances decline and attracting quality players to the club will be difficult and therefore trophies less likely.

    I sincerely hope Wenger does not think that keeping cash levels high is the priority for Arsenal. It most definitely is NOT.

  89. ethan_gunner


    i want him to spend like a B@@@@@@ too !
    but New stadium – healthy bank balance .. (its not like ticket prices are cheap either! )
    and they always get the stadium at near capacity . Id say that looks like all the indicators of a profitable corporation and hence the share prices must be going UP UP UP !

    Also the fact that they have frozen selling there shares must make the prices sky rocket .
    with Russian investors red and white etc.. all wanting a slice ..

    your right its not ONLY about cash levels but if arsene has a 100 million powder puff purse , that only adds to the clubs capital worth…
    and whilst he dont spend it and its gaining interest and using it for other profitable ventures the club will only add to there coffers .. and add to the capital worth of the company ..

  90. charybdis1966

    You’re right it’ll add to the capital worth, in the short term but analysts in this area of the market will recommend to investors with short or medium term horizons. Yees, short term it does look rosey – but, in my opinion, with continued trophyless years I see this changing.

    We all know football clubs are not “just like any other business” (Karen Brady famously said running a football club was just like selling baked beans) – as fans we will suppport them no matter what.

    We don’t just toddle off somewhere else at a whim, glory hunters aside.

  91. jimmyfingers

    I mean he HAS to spend in the summer, doesn’t he? The fans wantit and the board will want it too. I hope for a change in his transfer policy. That doesn’t mean we have to sell our soul

    Rosiscky and RvP need replacing/cover, and we need width, and a dominant centreback. Plus we still don’t have a clue which way Flamini is jumping

    Arseburgers to it all. Going to buy cheese and booze very soon

  92. ethan_gunner

    I am total agreeable to winning on the field as against running it like a organization!

    Id rather be in debt to the eyeballs but win every week !
    Im a fan and i want our club to win !

    2nd place is the 1st loser !!!!

    with a winning mentality you will get the benefits of global branding , Huge prize money kittys ! you become much more marketable ..

    i was listening to kenyon and he says chevski turn a profit of 200 mil per fiscal year
    over 4 years thats 800mil … and abrimovic has put in 578 mil to date ..

    i can see some profit in there for him .. everyone makes it out that he’s losing money
    but what do you think he would sell chevski for now ??
    how much could he sell his players for ?
    there is no losing money in the EPL top 4 !

  93. ethan_gunner


    how much do you think you’d get for the hospitalized ?
    (Rosiscky and RvP)

    id just make them bench players til they prove there fitness !
    i dont think anyone would want to buy them ?
    there just a liability currently …

    im sure we are stuck with them ! unless arsene cuts them free for next to F.A !

  94. Big Raddy

    Arsenal have broken the transfer record on many occasions. Starting with David Jack. But now it seems that financial security is more important.

    There will always be an Arsenal and a little debt never hurt anyone !!

    That said, I really don’t believe we will have enough money to buy the league like Abramovich. But do Chelski fans care about how they won? Did we care when GG bored everyone to death? No we just got happy on the Silverware

  95. Big Raddy

    OK. I have the lucky cake. Going to get the lucky away Tuborg Classics (bottle not can) and am ready to rock

  96. Geoff

    Thing is we still might win it without spending, so if we spent a little bit, we’d win it every year.

    People that run successful businesses always have a certain amount of debt, what’s the point in having all the money if we win fuck all?

  97. Pedro

    Busy Busy Busy!

    So what’s going on… who is feeling confident?

    Ethan, Jimmy, Raddy, Geoff, Chary, Odub… what say ye on the score?

  98. agentmorris

    I seldom drink the strong stuff during a game. This match changes my previous personal policy. Many a shot of Bushmills on the way for me! That’s the only way I won’t damage any property within a few square miles of me if our boys lose this one.
    Come on Arsenal!!!

  99. ethan_gunner

    I much prefer the weekend day games !
    If i have a brewsky during the game ill go to sleep !

    Being in thailand the game is on at 1.30 am here !
    but on the weekend 8pm til 11 pm ! a great time for pub life !
    .. well lets just say go-go bars + arsenal isnt a bad mix ! naked women
    and football !!!

    I hope thats what its like in heaven !!!

  100. charybdis1966

    I feel a bit negative to be honest – I can see the Poo getting a dodgy peno in front of the kop and them going 1-0 up. We’ll push forward, squander chances and then get caught on the counter.
    Sorry, I hope I’m wrong.