Arsenal fans, summer 2018 is coming, and it’s grim

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Summer is coming

Summer is coming (2018, don’t look)

Seems there’s so much to talk about with Arsenal at the moment. A beleaguered manager, a CEO who looks like he’s caught a dose of the same malaise our board has been suffering with for 15 years, as well as a squad of players very much disinterested in the fight.

Well, there’s a new battle on the horizon. The job that we forgot to take care of this summer. While Arsenal’s hierarchy were busy ballsing up this summer, they forgot to pay attention to what was coming next summer.

This from Gambon (long time commenter)

One thing that i’m not seeing being discussed, is the absolute disaster awaiting the club next summer.

The club will completely unravel in summer 2018, for the following reasons.

Due to under investment, the appalling decision to retain cash in an inflationary market, and terrible contract management, we will not be able to possibly come out of next summer anything less than massively weakened.

– Sanchez will leave with no fee coming to the club, and need replacing
– Ozil will leave with no fee coming to the club, and need replacing
– Cazorla will leave with no fee coming to the club, and need replacing
– Mustafi will almost certainly leave, and not just need replacing, but upgrading
– Bellerin will want to leave
– Ramsey will be on 12 months left, and judging by his shambles comment will not be renewing
– Wilshere will be leaving with no fee coming to the club, and need replacing
– Mertesacker retires, and will need replacing, again, with no fee coming to the
club
– Koscielny will be 12 months older and even more frail physically
– Cech will be 36 years old, and we will need a new GK

So next summer we will have to spend £150m just replacing 3 out of contract players, an amount the club may not want to spend, and Wenger would never have the guts or the knowledge to spend.

Thats before we get round to upgrading the under performing areas of the squad such as GK, CB, CM.

Update:

These players all enter their final 12 months

  • Giroud
  • Walcott
  • Rambo
  • Welbeck
  • Ospina
  • Cech
  • Monreal

Rome is burning, and the coach is lording it up in Paris on his second job, hitting the fans with precrime of being negative and damaging his players confidence.

Anyway, a very tough couple of years coming up.

I’m at a loss to work out what the common thread is with Arsenal at the minute…

1. Ivan G sent an internal e-mail that seemed to allude to him truly believing the summer was a good one. When the CEO is backing such a horrendous shit show, it’s pretty easy to see why he’s had such difficulty convincing Stan K to move Wenger on. What I can’t work out – is what a lawyer whose every move is supposed to be a chess play – stands to gain from such a suicide note?

  • He knew it would leak
  • It  didn’t reassure the fans
  • It didn’t reassure the players
  • It won’t motivate anyone to think Arsenal are an ambitious club worth moving to or staying with

We know he was game for moving Wenger on, why didn’t he either keep quiet, and let the season roll out Wenger’s way – or state that the summer was Wenger’s, and he deals with the playing side, and he trusts the manager. By making that statement, he’s made himself complicit, which seems crazy. I mean, crazy, when you consider how badly he was humiliated by Stan’s decision to give Wenger a new deal.

2. Ornstein said the reason the club held back on the window was the ‘preserve funds’ for the following two windows. Unless that’s preserving funds for a new manager, that comment makes little sense.

  • At the top end of the market, that cash will lose value, because players will naturally become more expensive
  • The cash devalues even more when you don’t let the manager build a squad that can compete. Straight off the bat, it’s clear CL is now an even bigger non-starter than it was before. By preserving funds, we have thrown away the chance to compete for the top 4.
  • Wenger says he’s still in for Lemar. How is he going to manage that? Ornstein said we were using Sanchez money to make that deal happen… but now Sanchez will go on a free, as will Ozil? Where’s the cash coming from for a £92m player?
  • Also, the club leaked the warchest stories at £100-150m. Where did that money go? Has the club seen the writing is on the wall and pulled all transfer fees?

3. Stan has already backed Wenger despite tremendous failure on the pitch, behind the scenes, and on the balance sheet. Yet he clearly had a part to play in preserving funds, what happened there?

There is something incredibly suspicious going on at Arsenal. It’s run so badly now, it’s hard to work out the difference between gross negligence and strategic genius. My guess is there’s not a lot of the latter going on, but we’ll have to find out over the next few months.

My hope? That this is the precursor to Wenger being moved on. He’s made his bed, he has to lie in it, if he survives and we have a good season, he stays on to fight another day. If it goes really badly, it’s curtains.

… one thing we know for sure. The club pulled the plug on Wenger this summer. That’s come from the most reliable source at Arsenal. Let’s hope the reasoning is the protection of the next manager.

Fingers crossed.

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244 Responses to “Arsenal fans, summer 2018 is coming, and it’s grim”

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  1. Jeff

    Guns,

    That’s precisely the point. Our purchases are more often than not hit and miss affairs. It’s a matter of luck whether a player will perform or not. There is no strategy, no plan to make effective every player in the way that will fit in with the rest of the personalities and abilities. It either works or doesn’t and even if it does happen to work once in a while it is probably a matter of fortune. This is totally and completely at Wenger’s door. So when I see swathes of vitriol aimed at players who can’t or won’t perform – it makes me wonder whether the same would happen under a manager who actually knew what he was doing and was able to motivate the team sufficiently to make them give 100% in all games instead of the usual 40 or 50?

  2. steveyj22

    It’s simple really. Arsenal a being turned in to a average mid table club. To make over a 100m all you need to do is stay in the prem.Why spend most of your prophits on silly wages and big transfer fee’s when it doesn’t guarantee success.That what all Kroenke’s other clubs do.

  3. Ishola70

    Jeff:
    “I’m wondering where the euphoria has gone about Lacazette? Many on here were adamant he would make a difference. Has he made a difference? And if so, what difference has he made? If he’s made no difference, does it then follow that we’ve bought a shit player? And if you go back in history under Wenger, how many other “good players” have be bought that turned out below expectation? But are we done blaming players for the 14 years of mediocrity and mayhem?”

    It’s too early to make judgements on Lacazette. Plenty were slagging the signing. I personally feel he will score the goals.

    He would have had two goals in two EPL starts if he hadn’t had a perfectly good goal chalked off at Stoke. And then for the next match if you are not even selected there is not much you can do.

    He’s far from a major problem in the side. The major problem is that shit midfield with the goofy Xhaka and the indisciplined Ramsey in it. That’s the real killer for Arsenal. The midfield.

  4. Goonertone

    Jeff
    As for Lacazette it’s too early to judge him as a player. He seems to know where the goal is which is an upgrade on Welbeck and many of the other below par strikers we’ve had like chamahk, Sanogo etc. It’s hardly his fault we lost two of the opening three games.

  5. Bay Area Gooner

    Ishola

    Agreed. The midfield is the critical area. Without a proper CDM or at least a highly disciplined one, who has foot speed, we are screwed.

    Ramsey is like a chicken with its head off.
    Xhaka, who knows what he is thinking half the time. Even Song would bomb forward in his last few seasons.

    Does Gilberto have a son?

  6. Ishola70

    steveyj22:
    “It’s simple really. Arsenal a being turned in to a average mid table club. To make over a 100m all you need to do is stay in the prem.Why spend most of your prophits on silly wages and big transfer fee’s when it doesn’t guarantee success.That what all Kroenke’s other clubs do.”

    Been a problem for so long now at Arsenal. No real footballing ambition more driven by money profit and as you say that money profit can be made just swanning along midtable in the EPL. Why bust a gut to be really successful on the footballing side when the money can come in coasting on the playing side. Doesn’t help all this in having an accountant cum football manager. Wenger used to be revered as the professor. More than a football manager. Now that can be seen as a curse. Club need to tear up self-sufficiency and get a new owner in who is ambitious and invests and sets targets on the playing side on his investment. That will see accountability and real pressure to perform and reach those targets set by the owner instead of coasting along on self-sufficiency. Should be seen to be implemented on the departure of Wenger.

  7. Guns of Hackney

    Jeff

    We saw what a motivated team with a point to prove and a game plan can acheive: Leicester won the league.

    Look at Athletico or a couple of the German teams…Red Bull and Hoffenheim. Under powered but managed by young, hungry managers who can make things happen. Motivation is such an underrated quality that is so easily overlooked. Man Yoo in Ferguson’s last season were utter drivel but they still won the league.

    Arsene cannot and has never motivated his players. Never! The good days were managed and planned by the players and the players alone. Wenger was still just the guy sitting on the bench and making bizarre statements that the British media gobbled up and regurgitated as ‘galic flair’.

    This time around and for the last decade, Wenger doesn’t have the players anymore. He’s been found out.

  8. Jeff

    Ishola,

    That’s as may be but the defence didn’t exactly adorn itself in glory in the Liverpool game. The whole team is quite often dysfunctional and unbalanced. We’ve seen it time and time again. The humiliations or “accidents” as Arsene calls them, are occurring far too often against the more decent teams and we’ve lost big in the recent past to all the big sides – including European ones. There is a reason for that and it’s not accidental.

    To my mind it boils down to using your pieces (like a game of Chess) properly and effectively and being able to see ahead. If we can’t do that and we play the same every single time, we will get humiliated more and more often.

  9. Bay Area Gooner

    @ Jeff

    Its been noted from past players that AW only prepares the team in the same way over and over. There is no change of plan, or scouting other teams to strategize.
    This is mindless.

    No wonder the players are completely hopeless when plan A doesnt work and there is no plan B that they have prepared for.

    Being married to a football philosophy is pointless and futile. That is the biggest difference between AW the idealist and say Sir Alex the pragmatist and many others.

    Even Pep has shown an ability to change up his tactics…. the tiki taka is still there but not as much as it used to be.

    I would say that 90% of posters on here could coach the team better on game day

  10. Ishola70

    Bay Area Gooner:
    Agreed. The midfield is the critical area. Without a proper CDM or at least a highly disciplined one, who has foot speed, we are screwed.Ramsey is like a chicken with its head off.”

    Wenger could have signed N’Zonzi and Matuidi and that would have seen the midfield improve tenfold.

    But he is not interested. He made the poor decision to buy Xhaka and of course he will not readdress that blunder at this time not for a while. Long enough to do enough damage.

  11. Wallace

    Jeff

    “I’m wondering where the euphoria has gone about Lacazette? Many on here were adamant he would make a difference. Has he made a difference? And if so, what difference has he made? If he’s made no difference, does it then follow that we’ve bought a shit player? ”

    seriously?…i mean, seriously?

  12. Elmo

    Pierre

    The club created entire new price categories for the EL (EL4GS and EL3) because they clearly know that the stadium would be empty if they rated the games even as Cat C.

    Tickets will range from £15.50 (lower tier) to £23.50 (centre upper).

    They will probably sell all the tickets courtesy of the lower prices, but the stadium will be half empty seeing as many of the season ticket holders who have the EL group games included will bother turning up.

    https://www.arsenal.com/tickets/member-ticket-prices

  13. Dissenter

    ““I’m wondering where the euphoria has gone about Lacazette? Many on here were adamant he would make a difference. Has he made a difference? And if so, what difference has he made? If he’s made no difference, does it then follow that we’ve bought a shit player? ”

    What exactly was the point you were trying to make?
    Lacazette scored in his first game and had one goal disapproved [contentiously] against Stoke. He was brought in when we were 3-o down against Liverpool, when heads had dropped.

  14. Guns of Hackney

    Even at the cheapest prices, I’d rather go to the nuclear and have a couple of drinks.

    The thought of watching Arsenal slug it out with Turkmenistan Invited Eleven makes me queasy.

    We won’t get past the 12 game group stage anyway.

  15. Dissenter

    Wallace,
    The notion that “kids” will do well in the EL is laughable. Our first team is barely good enough talk-less of the kids.
    There are strong teams from Italy, Spain,Turkey, Germany, Portugal and France that will push our first team to the limits.

  16. Ishola70

    Europa League will be very important this season.

    Wenger will show his usual signs of delusions of grandeur and give off that it is beneath him and that qualification for CL can be made through EPL placing but it looks like that latter idea is going to be beyond him. Europa League will probably be beyond him as well but can see enough fans cottoning on as the season goes on that Europa League will be the only hope and turning up in numbers for those games realising this. It’s all second tier stuff now but a slight chance of a gateway from that second tier nonetheless.

  17. Ishola70

    lol and I just see Wallace like Wenger shows those signs of delusion of grandeur just like him.

    Arsenal are in no position at this time to see the Europa League as some harmless kickabout in the local park.

  18. Wallace

    obviously I’m not suggesting we play the U23 side, but I’d like to see Reiss Nelson and a few of the other promising academy players in and around the EL squad.

  19. Dissenter

    We have to start our first Europa league game at home with a ginormous firework display because that will be our level for a long time to come.
    We left Higbury for the Emirates stadium to be like Leicester.

  20. Do one gambon

    Good article

    Though to be fair many people, myself included have brought this point up about all our players leaving for a couple of weeks in this blogs comments way before Gambon mentioned it yesterday

    Anyone not short sighted can see what’s coming.

  21. Bermy boy

    Wow everyone is saying the same thing in like 83 different ways just sit back and witness the inevitable.From the headlines allowing fans a peak into the the clubs transfer debacle it’s impossible to feel good about anything Arsenal.On A lighter note I’m getting a lot of shit done around the house and yes some of it is during AFC games.I don’t care really to watch a complete game anymore my practice is to tune out after the opposing team scores first then watch the post game show.

    I am completely numb.

  22. Redtruth

    Lacazette would have been a forlorn figure up top had he started against Liverpool.
    Zero control of midfield will ensure Lacazette remains a forlorn figure against the better sides

  23. Do one gambon

    Billip

    I’d fucking love it if arsenal fans around the world could club together, stick in a few quid each and make wiggy an owner.

    Go the Barcelona route and become fan owned (the only thing about that club I actually respect).

    Its the only way to ensure the next owners actually have the clubs best interests at heart.

    Better wake up now.

  24. Jeff

    Lacazette was advertised as the answer to the striker problem that plagued us since the arrival of Giroud and the departure of Van Persie. The point I was making Dissenter, is that as usual the hype didn’t match the reality which ensued but underlying that is the main root cause of the problems in general and that is the lack of management nous. The point I was making was that it doesn’t seem to make much difference how good a player is if the hand that controls the overall strategy is so one-dimensional, so fixated with the repetitive, monotonous style of play that it finds it impossible to change or adapt.

    Several decent players dotted around is simply not going to cut it. We cannot bring back the side with Adams, Keown, Dixon, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires and Llumberg in it. Those really were unique times and although the manager took all the credit, in all honesty the team could have been coached by Buggs Bunny and it may even have won more than a measly 3 PLs over so many years – no doubt Wallace would disagree with that because he still clings onto the notion that it’s not over till it’s over. Wallace, I have news for you – it was over over 14 years ago.

    I would have thought that the point I was making was loud and clear – no profound reading of between the lines needed.

  25. Vintage Gun

    The current madness at the club is the manifestation of an major internal power struggle between Wenger, Josh Kroenke and the stats DNA team.

    Gazidis probably just spits into Arsene’s morning latte on a daily basis to which an unknowing Wenger warmly accepts yet pours into the plant pot as soon as Ivans back is turned. Also on a daily basis.

  26. Ishola70

    This is a new one.

    So the Stats DNA team are fighting with and over-riding Wenger as well.

    Poor Wenger . No wonder he is cooked with so much on his plate.

  27. Guns of Hackney

    Vintage gun

    Wenger sleeps in his office like a soused old gumshoe detective. Huddled over some old scrapbook with pictures of Henry, Pires, Ljungberg and Bergkamp.

    There’s no morning latte for that creep…just a cold dose of reality that he can’t face.

    I doubt if him and Gazides even see each other between match days. Arsenal obviously have zero communication.

  28. Follow the money

    I can’t think of one season of Wenger’s reign where the team punched above their weight. That’s the mark of a good manager. Fergie got United to do that many times. Two things have become glaringly obvious. 1. Wenger sucks at the business of transfers and assembling a complete squad. When Dein was around we didn’t have these issues. 2. Wenger is fundamentally unsuited to running a big club. His bizarre ideas about economics and the player market indicate he would be much more suited to a small or medium size club. Arsenals choice is find a manager who can manage a big club (under current net spend it’s easily done) or let Wenger drag the entire operation down to his mediocre level

  29. Jeff

    Follow – I really, really think that Wenger is in the wrong job. If he were at any other big club there is no way on earth he would have survived this long. It’s just a very fortunate concatenation of events that has kept him where he is. It’s quite remarkable really when you think about it.

  30. Ishola70

    This is twice I have heard now where fans are insinuating that Wenger is not responsible for purchases of players. That players are being signed and brought in above his head.

    May as well let the club rot with so many apologists around for him.

  31. champagne charlie

    Ishola

    You ever get bored of your ‘apologist’ bollocks? I mean you’d be taken more seriously if you presented anything close to a well thought football opinion, but alas, still awaiting that gem too.

  32. Ishola70

    lol like your major insightful football thoughts.

    There are still plenty of apologists around for Arsene Wenger unfortunately and I am not the only one to point it out on here and it is an important topic because even when it gets to a stage that should be seen as inexcusable there are still more than enough that will defend the inexcusable. Or try to deflect from a certain perrson.

    All you have to do is look at Pedro’s recent twitter timeline to see that where he is still arguing the toss with fans that still want to keep polishing turd.

  33. Vintage Gun

    Im not saying that the stat DNA guys have the power to override Wenger on anything per se but the machine is a very pricey ‘cutting edge’ piece of tech so somebody at the club has to at least be looking at the functioning and output on offer, regarding our existing players as well as potential signings.

    For augments sake say this person is Josh Korenke supported in silence by Gazidis and also by players who are training at a consistent higher level than their competition yet rarely getting picked and the ‘STAT’ players whom Wenger reluctantly agrees to sign in the last days of the window after dithering all summer and a poor seasonal start.

    Players such as Lucas, Welbeck. Mustafi, Gabriel and El Neny (Both Jan)

  34. Ishola70

    No not really.

    It is just very unfortunate that even when Wenger is in his last throes and is clearly done there are still those that will defend or deflect. Think it goes back to Arsene is Arsenal thought.

    I t really doesn’t do anyone any favours at this point

  35. Ishola70

    No not really.

    It is just very unfortunate that even when Wenger is in his last throes and is clearly done there are still those that will defend or deflect. Think it goes back to Arsene is Arsenal thought.

    I t really doesn’t do anyone any favours at this point.

  36. Vintage Gun

    Basically what im trying to say is perhaps there are forces within the club that are statistically exposing Wengers many failings. And Wenger is fighting against the black and white facts.

  37. Ishola70

    Well Vintage there was another poster on here recently that said that Xhaka was brought in above Wenger’s head.

    That Wenger didn’t really want him but was forced or coerced into signing him.

    The timing of this revelation from this poster of course coincided with Xhaka’s awful start to the season.

  38. David Smith

    Pedro,
    Can see why you are pissed off with Ivan. But , presumably you have met him, you have said he is well aware of what a shit show Wenger is. It is widely reported there are splits between him and Wenger, some even say Ivan offered his resignation , but was persuaded not to , on the false promise from the kroenkes that there would be changes.
    Again, it is widely reported the Brit board, to the last man wanted Wenger gone this summer, ” the Americans aren’t listening”. There is evidence Ivan alone at least tried to change things, but as for keeping Wenger on, that was solely down to two men, Ivan not being one of them.
    Ivan could easily resign, he would get another job easily, does he really need grief from players promised change, fans when he goes into a shop or garage, no Ivan is waiting for something, which may be sooner than we think, we all know how revenge is best served. If Wenger fucks up, as he is doing, Ivan can turn around to Stan and tell him , not only ” I told you so”, but next time FFS listen to the British board members. This may put IG in a much better position to build this club, without Stan or Josh meddling if he has this trust. And don’t underestimate the influence of Josh when Wenger departs, he could be even worse than his dad.
    Ivan and the board may be even more pissed off with Wenger than we are, they have to deal with the fuckwit on a daily basis, and his mistakes.
    That email to club staff and players would obviously be leaked ,could be an attempt to throw Wenger under a bus, as could a last minute deprivation of transfer funds, despite the little laughable pretence over Lemar as Wenger prepared to commentate for his other job
    Ivan could yet be the clever chess player you thought he was.
    And even if you don’t believe that, rest assured, if Wenger goes prematurely, Ivan Gazidis alone stands between the Kroenkes replacing Wenger with Henry/Martinez, and the chance of a top European coach, maybe one you have mentioned.
    I’ ll get my tin hat.

  39. Pierre

    Does anyone know who or what at Arsenal has upset ornstein.. He’s obviously had his nose put out of joint by someone or something at the club to suddenly start acting this way. .
    He’s gone from being the great purveyor of information regarding Arsenal to nothing more than a child telling tales in the playground.

  40. Vintage Gun

    @Ishola70

    I think your reading me wrong. Im not insinuating that players have been brought against his will, im saying that i think Wenger is so out of touch with the transfer market in recent years that he lacks confidence operating within it which results in him dithering all summer and then panicking at the death when options are thin and prices exorbitant in the end agreeing to sanction the signing of a ‘Stat Man’ whom he will give the cold shoulder to unless they’re a roaring sucsess to which he will proudly proclaim ‘ I’ve watched him since he was 2′

  41. Ishola70

    Vintage yeah could be the case with a player such as Perez.

    But tbh you didn’t need an indepth stats tech to pick out a player like Perez would be signed by Arsenal.

    Arsenal have been signing players like Perez for a long enough time. Giroud was the same category signing. A player that has had a big breakout season in comparison to previous and whose transfer price has risen quite considerably over a relatively short period of time but still within a price which is seen as manageable and not over the top.

    My point about the Xhaka poster was not linked to yourself after you made your secondary post.

  42. Gooner63

    Either way its pathetic by Wenger

    If the club is buying players that he did not want – being so successful in the past he should have quit and gone to manage a club that allows him to buy

    any decent non money grabbing manager with any pride would have had quit and spilled the story

  43. PieAFC

    Very good point on David Ornstein, I want to know why suddenly Ornstein has thought “hold on a minute you cunts, i’m not being mugged off here”

    Just adding fuel to the fire, it does seem strange. Almost like we are imploding from within….

    IMO, He’ clearly lost the dressing room.

    Some players have probably looked around and grouped together and enough is enough.

    Half hearted performances, a few loses, kick up hysteria and wham you have a Chelsea and Leicester on your hands. Not saying the players have wanted to perhaps do this, but definitely feasible.

    Can only hope.

  44. Bob pat den tel

    Your Comment Hereits been apparent for some time that despite his so called commitment to Arsenal Wenger couldn’t care a shit whether we win or lose as long as he retains full power to call the shots throughout the club
    The players have given up with him and no matter who he signs we will not progress until Wenger goes

  45. raptora

    Chile and Alexis are about to get into some deep deep sh*t if they lose their game vs Bolivia. Bolivia is leading by 1:0 in the 75-th minute. I wonder if Alexis is in terrible form but he looks pretty average atm. He is a great player but makes you wonder if he purposely played like he gave two f*cks about Arsenal in the game vs Liverpool or this is really his form at this moment.

  46. David Smith

    Wenger has lost some of the dressing room, but some clearly loyal, this probably creates factions and makes things worse

  47. raptora

    Half the game Alexis was losing the ball, the other half he was standing with his hands on his waist annoyed at everyone. It’s good to know that he is no different for Chile like he was in the Liverpool game. Especially if he doesn’t quickly pick his form up.

  48. colin

    there are many who would disagree ,but in my opinion the only way arsenal football club is going to get rid of kroenke or should it be the crankies is through fan revolt , because as long as the fans continue to buy over priced season tickets , merchandise and home game food drink ect,ect, he wont have any reason to leave , no businessman in his right mind would hang on to a failing business. anyway if leicester city were 5000/1 the season they won the league i wonder what price i would get on arsenal getting relegated whilst wenger is in charge.

  49. raptora

    It all culminated in the 92-th minute after a hard fought corner Alexis went to take it and kicked it way, way over all of his team in to a throw-in. Several of his teammates raised their hands and yelled at what the f*ck is he actually doing. Afterwards Vidal threw a bottle, yelled at someone and after the game he was in tears. Like 50 people got around the ref while the bolivians were celebrating like they won the World Cup.

  50. Gooner63

    Cant really blame Alexis – theres 11 players

    Plus when u just thought u were off to a club where u had real training, quality players and a chance at decent trophies and u end up staying at the joke club that is Arsenal

    probably hard to get focused on any game

  51. seg

    I don’t for one minute agree that the players have given up on Wenger. Most of these players are at Arsenal because of Wenger! Most of em would be in championship/league one if not for him, and they know it.

  52. David Smith

    Seg, don’t see too many waiting to sign extensions for Wenger, the next few months will be telling.
    They look disorganised, under coached, and generally pissed off in the games this season. Some of them may have raised their game in the cup final in the hope Wenger would chose to go out on a high.
    A few suggestions players would sign contracts when Wenger renewed, didn’t really happen, what does that say to our glorious manager?

  53. Johnsgiles

    DEAR PERDO AND ALL ON LE GROVE….NO ITS WORSE

    The club has officially said its going to base itself on ‘the Leicester model its unbelievable

    So the club is going to base itself on a club that had a fluke of a season

    I really don’t know what that statent means what we are aiming to be a bottom half of the table team that may fight relegation of May fluke a once in 30 year event

  54. Johnsgiles

    I keep going you can’t make things up but THAT is what the club has OFFICIALLYSPENT stated

    That is now arsenals aim and ambition ….. To be LEICESTER

  55. Goobergooner.

    Champagne charlieSeptember 5, 2017 20:49:56
    “Ishola
    Doing a service to the club then in your eyes, what a hero.”

    Champers mate, you are such a hypocrite. If you had wengers Tosca out of your mouth maybe you would talk more sense.

  56. Johnsgiles

    Even top 4 is no longer important to the club….I can only conclude there is something seriouly going on here …. Nothing but NOTHING is making even the littlest bit of sense…. Im off to support Afc Wimbledon at least it’s owned by the fans for the fans…. See you all in about 5 years time when theyll probably be in the same league RIP arsenal

  57. Pierre

    Jgiles
    “The club has officially said its going to base itself on ‘the Leicester model its unbelievable”

    I think you think you will find that ornstein made those comments and attributed them to kronke.
    I am not sure how ornstein received those comments from kronke… Did they have a special meeting or did kronke phone ornstein to give him an exclusive because, as far as I can tell, ornstein is the one and only person to report this.
    Certainly not “official” but I suppose it’s more ammunition to throw at Arsenal.

  58. Johnsgiles

    Dear Pierre

    You my dear are still arguing in favour as ‘things are’ and still defending the club that went from being title contenders 10 + years ago to now no longer ever top 4 , to now a club that will be at best a top 8 club by next season

    How can u defend what was once a great club to the shambles/ echo of what it once was……

    What is it you are defending anymore?

  59. Johnsgiles

    Sound like a chap who’s wife has constantly lied, cheated and made grandstanding comments that you stick with rather than facing the facts…….
    1 owner does give a flying fuck about the club so long as his asset increases in value (and publically just stated again he won’t put any of his own money into the club) which is like me going im not going to buy my wife a new dress because she looks fine in the one she’s been wearing for 4 years (no capital outlay)
    2) a manager that now has zero tactical nuance
    3) players don’t give a shit
    4) oh fuck i can’t be bothered to write 10 points………lies, bullshit blah
    Pierre just go enjoy what’s left of a club that’s been in decline for years and enjoy

  60. Johnsgiles

    Arsenal season tickets should now come with small print disclaimer on the back

    Warning: may contain nuts, whilst we take every precaution we cannot guarantee nut traces due to kroenke; wenger and board being manufactured on the same premises

  61. Guernsey gun

    At least we have good ol arsenes unstated, make them up as you go along values. Values will get us through this. Theres only one arsene wenger………

  62. GuNZ

    The End Times are here and Wenger is the prophesied Whore of Babylon. Actually he reminds me a bit of that actor that plays Gollum in LOTR only Gollum could manage Arsenal better. The only ring Wenger can find nowadays is Giroud’s arse.

  63. Leedsgunner

    If the club authorities are now placing their hopes in Arsenal doing a Leicester are they going to be charging Leicester like prices? So we’ve gone from having ambitious aims to compete with Bayern to compete with Leicester.

    What was the point of the stadium move then?

    At least the Leicester board had the balls to fire their manager…

  64. Wallace

    Follow the Money

    “I can’t think of one season of Wenger’s reign where the team punched above their weight. That’s the mark of a good manager. Fergie got United to do that many times.”

    every time we beat Fergie’s Utd to the title – 3 times – we were punching above our weight. in the last 10yrs every time we’ve finished better than 4th – 5 times –
    we’ve punched above our weight.

  65. Rambo Ramsey

    Wallace, does your tongue have to be lodged up Wenger’s backside on a permanent basis?

    When in Wenger’s reign has the team ever been greater than the sum of its parts? That’s the point being made. Fergie consistently had bang average talents playing with Champion’s mentality.

  66. TitsMcGee

    Follow – I really, really think that Wenger is in the wrong job. If he were at any other big club there is no way on earth he would have survived this long. It’s just a very fortunate concatenation of events that has kept him where he is. It’s quite remarkable really when you think about it.”

    Without a doubt he’d have been ushered out a long time now. Not even last season or the season before but like 2011 the latest.

    He’s a cottdamned joke of a “manager”. The fact that he’s clinging on to the scraps of his legacy shows him for what he is. His own players have given up on him, a large faction of the fans have given up on him and he’s still taking the piss out of us.

    The numbers speak for themselves. No matter how anyone wants to spin/twist/turn/rotate them. He’s been failing for almost a decade and a half and he’s an integral part is the demise of AFC. We are a joke worldwide at the moment and we will be for very long after he goes whenever he decides to deprive us of his company(as I am sure that’s exactly what he thinks we think about it).

  67. TitsMcGee

    every time we beat Fergie’s Utd to the title – 3 times – we were punching above our weight. in the last 10yrs every time we’ve finished better than 4th – 5 times –
    we’ve punched above our weight.”

    LOL jesus @ this

    Even when LCFC beat us by 10 points?

    Christ almighty.

  68. TitsMcGee

    He’s gone from being the great purveyor of information regarding Arsenal to nothing more than a child telling tales in the playground.”

    Someone sounds like they are upset that the skeletons are out of the closet. this is exactly the problem with you lot. Everything is whisked away as “no big deal” or “some agenda”. Open your eyes. Think with your head.

  69. Countryboy

    Guys, have you ever Wondered if Pierre is actually paid to go on a blog like this and break things up. He is like a defensive midfielder for a team losing heavily. Every one and his dog knows you’ve lost the game but you still have to protect the back four. Why? Because its your f*cking job

  70. Ces1ne

    Those South American WCQs might be more competitive than the Euros at times……so much talent/teams, so much hatred for other countries shown on the pitch, plus they get shafted on the amount of spots they get for the WC, definitely deserve 1 more.

  71. TitsMcGee

    Bournemouth will lose. He’ll be okay for another few weeks.”

    Yep. We”ll still beat the dross. The weak-minded will come out n droves dribbling all over their seats and Wenger will be safe until the next capitulation.

  72. TitsMcGee

    What the fuck is this? Spoiled?! The fans pay the highest prices in England and possibly in all of Europe to watch the team fail year after year and we’re spoiled?! Christ.”

    lol

    It’s amazing. Arsenal fans have been incredibly patient(even naively so) to this point. Anywhere else in the world and Wenger would be on his ass multiple years ago.

  73. arsene's used sock

    finishing better than fourth is now considered punching above our weight?
    you must be kidding me, no Wallace, just no.

  74. tee

    it’s funny how wobs are trying as much as possible to paint their own pictures to absorb gazidis in this. this guy as been happily receiving Hus cool cash without doing or proving anything other than spinning lies upon lies. if you think Wenger will be gone when kronke is st around then you are more idiotic than I thought. if things go bad than this then don’t be surprised if some coaching crew are sacked excluding Wenger. if you want Wenger gone then Mount pressure on the owner buy boycotting the emirates. otherwise y’all and Pedro will be here next year repeating the same thing while hoping otherwise – insanity.

  75. tee

    the guy that said man u punched above their weight with average players under Ferguson is a complete ——–. I will be more than happy if you can list the average players in the first eleven as at that time. Wenger and his loyalists, gazidiz and kroenke loyalists are all that is wrong with this club.

  76. goonerboy

    There is another script apart from that of abject doom and failure preferred by many contributors .
    The script that reads in this transfer window Arsenal bought one good forward and a good left wingback, sold a number of squad players and made a profit.
    We did not address our defensive and midfield weaknesses- disappointing but under Wenger I have never experienced a great transfer window.
    We still have a good team when everyone is fit- plus some good young players.
    Is the doom about 2018 justified?
    It is not a done deal that Sanchez and Ozil, go next year- they are another year older and less attractive as purchases- and on big contracts that may not be easily bettered- as their agents know only too well.A year is a very long time in football.
    Monreal has already been replaced.
    Wilshere- no one thinks is fit enough to be able to rely on for more than a couple of games at a time- so actually no loss (whisper he doesn’t play anyway). I’d love him to overcome this problem but don’t think he will.
    Mert hardly played last year and his future is clear. If we lose Mustafi – big deal- but I don’t think there is any kind of certainty to that.
    Yes defenders have to be bought- big deal.
    The biggest issue at Arsenal- is not the playing personnel who admittedly could be improved without huge outlay- its the coaching, the setting up of the team: lack of structure and defensive capability and discipline the lack of proper motivation and the ownership regime that blatantly fails to hold the manager to account.