Wenger hemorrhaging AFC cash, the number is quite unbelievable

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Everyone loves a big number to keep focus on what’s going on at Arsenal. I don’t mean to pile pressure onto our faltering manager, but I think a few myths need to be busted about what he’s offering to the club these days, because his ability to turn a profit has diminished at quite a alarming pace. This post aims to showcase just what a state we’re in.

Prizes:

Firstly, let’s look at the Champions League. A competition which Wenger has often claimed the mere qualification is a trophy. Well, that trophy isn’t on offer this year. Instead, we’re suffering the indignity of Spursday Night Europa League. The difference in prize money is quite large. If we make it to the last 16 on 4 wins and 2 draws, we’ll earn £5.6m.

Prize Money for achieving last 16 of UCL: £36m

Prize Money for hitting same height in Europa: £5.6m

Net Loss: -£30.4m

Players:

Next up, let’s look at the players we have that are currently leaving on free transfers, based on the big man’s say so. I’ll be straight up, we’re not getting anything for Per or Santi. We should be getting something for Jack (£20m), Chambo (£30m), Sanchez (£60m) and Ozil (£40m).

Total Loss: -£150m (as of Wenger’s stance that they’re all staying)

Deadwood Wages:

Now let’s take a look at the problem Alfred called out in the podcast, surplus wages. We have, what, 33 players in our squad? Many of them overpaid to the point they can’t be moved on. We saw Jenkinson move to play with Harry Redknapp because his deal is simply too rich to handle for Premier League clubs. Worth remembering we were in EXACTLY the same position in 2011 after project youth. I have 9 players that class as deadwood. The two richest would be

Worth remembering we were in EXACTLY the same position in 2011 after project youth. I have 9 players that I class as deadwood. The two richest would be Santi, because he’s broken, and Theo because when one of your highest paid players is a bench merchant, you’d clearly rather not have him around. Others that made the cut were Joel Campbell who is back again, Kieran Gibbs who I was told earns more than the £65k a week I have him on (£80k), along with Ospina, Debuchy, Perez, and Wilshere. Total wage expenditure there is £625k a week, I’ve left Jenks in there because I have my doubts Birmingham are paying full whack.

Total cost: £32.5m

All of that money, added together in my clever little spreadsheet takes Arsenal’s potential losses for the year to a whopping £212,885,227.

Now, you can split hairs on my numbers, but what you can’t do is tell me that there is anyway you can look at those figures and not be absolutely shocked at how badly run we are under Arsene Wenger, Director Of Football.

I didn’t even get into the figures of what we’re losing on players who’d have become better players under better managers. Let’s be real here, a contracted Alexis is a £100m player in this market. Jack Wilshere is a £50m player if he progresses. Kieran Gibbs, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain, Aaron Ramsey, Theo Walcott… would all be worth a lot more under better management.

We are not only a shambles on the pitch, we’re the same off it. Arsenal are in the process of overseeing one of the least effective summers of all time, and what makes it worse, is next year, we’re going to lose 6 players on free transfers.

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  1. Don

    Marko

    Nooooo
    Again. He was wanted by Bayern. Who are in the world’s top 3 club sides at the moment. Yet the only clubs he will entertain have never won the champions league and and won of them hasn’t won the league for over 3 years now and don’t look likely to win at again until may 2019 at the ealiest.
    Either way it doesn’t matter really. He is staying this year and that’s that. Then he will leave and pocket top dollar. He will never win the champions league though if he joins city or PSG.
    I’ll get you that. And if it were only trophies he was after he would still be at Barca. I love Sanchez as a player but he’s clearly after as much money as he can get, even if that means not playing for Barca or Bayern which he’s had the chance to do.

  2. Paulinho

    Interesting that David Silva was high in those charts as well. He’s not the same player he was and he’s become somewhat guilty of doing what Ozil does. Still better though, even when past his best.

  3. Marko

    Explain how Bayern or PSG compare for title chances to Manchester City, what’s the “rationale” for Alexis not already being unveiled at one of those?

    Glad you asked. For Bayern it’s obviously the transfer fee against getting him for free next summer. Remember this is a club who challenge for major honours but their transfer record is 35 million for Tolisso. You don’t become a shrewd club spending 70 million on someone you can sign up in 6 months time for free. And well PSG wanted Neymar and Mbappe obviously

  4. Cesc Appeal

    Karim

    Right.

    But there is also a mass of left wing justice warriors who are bigots, it does not matter what evidence you bring, facts, statistics etc, I mean I have seen videos of individuals with Phd’s in fields like sociological study etc who have dedicated their life to studying Islam and when they do university talks about the plight of women in Islamic nations, or onerous penalises for apostasy, homosexuality or the political fascist element of that religion we see today they could some spotty eighteen year old saying ‘but don’t you think you are just spreading hate’ or ‘that is racist’.

    I am not trying to take a side, I cannot stand bigotry or intolerance of views on any side. Everything is open to debate and attack and that is something the left wing particularly seem not to like. They argue with overtones of virtue and identity and try to make that trump logic and facts. Easiest thing in the world to shout racism etc, much harder to spend months, years maybe compiling evidence and research.

  5. Cesc Appeal

    Anyway, I did not want to get into a political debate. Not about that.

    Just saying pro-Wenger fans share characteristics with those militant social justice warriors.

    Presented with facts about spends, tactics, injuries, lack of success, repetitive errors, quotes etc and they just come back with ‘respect Wenger’ or history or some shite. Look at Pedro yesterday, great little article and people online just said ‘you are wrong’ and ‘you are an arsehole’ no retort at all, because they are lazy, butthurt and thick.

  6. Marko

    Question Charlie where is Sanchez most likely to win major trophies at City with their squad and Pep or at Arsenal in their squad with Wenger? Keep in mind that Arsene says he’s happy with his window. Forget the wages apparently we have offered him 300,000 a week

  7. Champagne charlie

    Mark

    Obviously the transfer fee? Obvious because that suits your argument by chance?

    The very fact Alexis discussed wages with Bayern indicates there was every possibility Arsenal and Bayern were capable of reaching a mutually acceptable fee.

    Your “obvious” talk is actually nothing more than speculative nonsense. Again you’re talking like you’re privy to the deals themselves, enlighten me as to why Arsenal and Bayern wouldn’t have settled on a player swap and small financial outlay? They sold Douglas Costa after all, and possess several players we could’ve negotiated for. Wenger and Ancelotti are very close friends, so the obstacles you’re suggesting here are total fantasy.

    None of which account for why Alexis demanded a contract out of the scope for Bayern to pay. Not exactly trophy-centric behaviour…

    Care I explain further?

  8. karim

    Don

    I seriously don’t get why you don’t rate psg, and it’s not me being French.
    Bamford did mention Barça took a spanking at the Parc, I will add they were rather lucky in the second leg ( own goals, Suarez and Neymar diving, psg in panic mode )

    Psg has showed they’re almost there on multiple occasions, and they do have an excellent spine with Silva, Verratti and Cavani.

    Them having unlimited resources is another debate, I’m purely talking football.

  9. Emiratesstroller

    Don

    I think that the situation at Arsenal has changed from the way that the club was
    perceived by its players in the first seven or eight years of Wenger’s career at the
    club and how players now react.

    Firstly I think that the only two clubs to which our star players considered leaving for were Real Madrid and Barcelona.

    Vieira was the first major player to leave for another club, but that was Arsenal’s decision and ironically that decision was made one week after Vieira had
    bought a new house in Highgate!

    The first significant player to leave Arsenal for another club in England was [C]Ashley Cole and that was purely a matter of money.

    Since then most of the major players who left the club did so for monetary reasons apart from perhaps Cesc Fabregas.

    However, what we are seeing now is that several of our better players want to
    leave not just for monetary reason, but perhaps as a reaction to what they perceive is a decline in the club. Clearly money cannot be the sole reason for them wanting to leave, because we are offering pretty decent wages to all of them.

  10. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    We can go round in circles all day with that superficial nonsense. At present it looks like City are a bigger trophy threat. So that it settled then?

    Oh no, wait….tell me where Alexis would be earning a bigger wage, Arsenal or City?

    So try pulling from all the relatable materials on Alexis ehh, give the above some of your trademark ‘analysis’.

  11. Dissenter

    Don
    “Wait and see when the champions league games start to take their toll come January. You think they’re dropping points now? Not saying we will win it but we will 100% be in top four and I’m saying it again, we will make a good go for the title this year”

    You’re willfully blinded.
    You don’t think Europa games will take their toll on us as well, travelling to God-knows where on Thursdays will have it’s affects.
    There’s no point debating you since your definition of a league challenge probably means finishing 25 points behind the winners.

  12. Cesc Appeal

    PSG are going to be a great team to watch this year.

    Big fan of Rabiot, big fan of Verratti as well.

    I do enjoy a good midfield, probably because we have not got one, and the idea of Fabinho joining those two.

  13. Pierre

    Raptora
    “You still don’t seem to grasp the idea that Ozil is not interested in scoring, and purposely doesn’t put himself in positions to do so,”
    Ozil missed at least 3 pretty good chances v Leicester when we were chasing the game so, obviously he does put himself in goal scoring positions.

    When Ramsey is not in midfield then you will find ozil getting into scoring positions as in the first hour or so v Leicester as Ramsey was on the bench.
    Ramsey started against stoke and as we all know, Ramsey spends half of his time in the opposition box, this in turn means that ozils role changes in the team.. You will rarely see ozil in the box when Ramsey is in midfield.. It may be difficult for some people to comprehend but ozil plays for the team, he is unselfish, not a glory hunter….he has not been voted the best player in Germany 5 out of the last 6 years for no reason.

  14. Don

    Karim

    Mein kampf is now a best seller in Germany (since opening its doors) and has been in turkey for years.
    Fake news cannot be forgiven and must be stamped out but there’s no need to make it as there is plenty of evidence to support anti Semitism accords Europe

  15. Pierre

    Have to say Don that I am with you regarding this season and the title challenge .. Not writing us off at all..

  16. karim

    Cesc

    Thanks for your answer mate, and of course you’re completely right.
    I was more joking than anything, don’t worry.

  17. Champagne charlie

    Ox supposedly more and more likely to be sold late in the window.

    There’s a case for keeping Alexis for the year and measuring the transfer fee vs output he’d give. There’s not that same issue with Ox, sell and replace. Easy.

    Who would le grove buy in place of the Ox? Would you:

    1. get a better RWB
    2. hand it to Bellerin and invest the money in another position

    I’d take option 2 all day long. Daddy wants a shiny new CM

  18. Cesc Appeal

    Karim

    Haha. Fair enough, tone never comes across on blogs and things have to make sure people are not misconstruing you.

    What do you think on this Mbappe and Fabinho thing? Crazy.

    Verratti questioned PSG’s ambition and look. Jeez.

  19. Paulinho

    Pierre – There is nothing glory-hunting or selfish about wanting to score goals.

    Over the long haul Ozil is simply not capable of it, and it has got nothing to do with him being some supreme selfless being.

    The top players can initially be in a creative role and look to feed others but know when to mix it up, realise someone like Welbeck is not going to score, and take it upon themselves to force the issue.

    What does Ozil do on Saturday when given the ball 25 yards from the goal in the dying minutes? Look to take shot? Look to play a one-two in and around the box to createve havoc? No, he turns to his right and plays a 15 yard ball backwards to Mustafi on the touchline. Ozil in a nutshell.

  20. Pierre

    Marko
    “where is Sanchez most likely to win major trophies at City with their squad and Pep or at Arsenal in their squad with Wenger?”

    I have no doubt that exactly the same question was asked last season, especially after city won their first 6 games.

    And although the FA Cup is not regarded as a trophy on here, I am sure sanchez was pleased to win it again rather than city’s sweet F all again…

  21. karim

    Don

    Wasn’t Mein Kampf released in Germany so as to educate the masses on exactly what not to do rather than hiding/censuring ?
    Don’t know about Turkey.

    Yeah, facts speak for themselves and there’s no denying antisemitism exists.

    Also true that you cannot critic Israeli politics without being called an antisemite.

  22. Don

    Emirates

    I’m not saying money is the sole reason but it is probably the most engaging factor for many of them.
    RvP and cesc aside, every single player that went to city do so to increase their pay packet. Their career declined sharply as a result.
    Any of the players that left for Barca can be excused as you only get that call once unless you are truly elite level.
    Now I’m not saying the fact that Arsenal cannot compete anymore on the trophy front isn’t a factor but it’s not the driving force behind a move. If it were then Sanchez would be quite happy to to a wage cut and join either Juve or Bayern

    Karim.
    Let’s see. They have neymar now and maybe that will elevate them into he top tier but let’s be clear, it’s all about the money. Nobody is joining PSG because of the wonderful project or the clubs rich history of success or to win the French title. The same way Robinho, adebayor and the rest didn’t join city for those reasons.
    I’ll give RvP his due. He turned down better money at city to join a genuinely big club with a rich history and tradition of winning
    We all know why cesc left. The rest are all from poverty and are trying to make their whole family millionaires. Maybe I’d do something similar if my family were all on the bread line too. Can’t blame them for that but the point still stands. The driving force here is money. Titles are secondary

  23. Dissenter

    I don’t understand what we are doing with managing contracts.
    Step 1; A player at the end of his contract is asked to renew/extend their contracts
    Step 2; The player declines to renew the contract
    What;s with all this bitterness towards Oxlade.
    He’s told Wenger one-to-one in private conversations [per media reports leaked by his agent and yet-to-be debunked by Arsenal] that he isn’t extending his contract.
    Same with Ozil and Alexis.
    Why are we acting like a pathetic and small minded club. Why have we let Arsenal become the fodder of the tabloid press?
    First it was Wenger’s contract last year. Now it’s Alexis, Oxlade and Ozil’s?
    Next season it will be Ramsey’s

    Get rid of these players and move on. Reinvest whatever proceeds back into the team with proper replacements. That’s what big teams do.

  24. Paulinho

    Selling Chamberlain by far the best move.

    Worst move signing him up on a big contract. He would be another deadwood baggage player holding us back when we realise we’re spunking big money on a player that can only play in one position at a respectable level; and even then in a position that is dependent on a certain formation being used.

  25. salparadisenyc

    Don’t think theres any denying PSG are going to compete at the highest level in all comps, notably Europe.

    Neymar____Cavani____Di Maria
    Rabiot_____Motta_____Verratti
    Kurzawa__Silva___Marquihos_Alves
    ____________Trapp_____________

    Mbappe potentially coming in as well, the names who wont be able to get into the side could form another starting XI that would take our first team to task.

  26. Marko

    Your “obvious” talk is actually nothing more than speculative nonsense. Again you’re talking like you’re privy to the deals themselves,

    And then you go on to speculate about the wages he demanded from Bayern so you’re privy?

  27. karim

    Cesc

    They do mean business and that’s something we can unfortunately only envy..

    Now, after getting Neymar, I would play it low-key and I don’t even think they need M’Bappe to be honest.

    Give Monaco a chance ffs !

  28. Pierre

    Paulinho on ozil
    “, realise someone like Welbeck is not going to score, and take it upon themselves to force the issue”

    So basically you are saying that no one should pass to welbeck if he is in front of goal… Another strange theory from you

    Have you ever thought of going into management…. Can see the team talk now before the Leicester game
    “Kolasinac, now listen mate, if you are in the area and welbeck is next to you in a better scoring position, don’t give it to him as he won’t score”

    Classic

  29. loyika

    Ox’s situation will be clearer after the meeting with the Management on Thursday. Then we will know if he will be sold before the TW closes.

    But my guts tells me none of them will be.

    If Alexis plays any part in the game against Pool then we can say he is here for one more season.

  30. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Uhm no, just keep abreast of things…

    http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2017-2018/uli-hoeness-bayern-munich-can-t-afford-alexis-sanchez-wage-demands_sto6240807/story.shtml

    Show me your evidence for Bayern “obviously” not affording his transfer fee. while you’re at it, answer what was said about the trophy chances of Bayern/PSG compared to City and tell us why Alexis isn’t at either club by now given his intense desire for glory, not money.

  31. Redtruth

    Emiratessteoller

    “I think that the situation at Arsenal has changed from the way that the club was
    perceived by its players in the first seven or eight years of Wenger’s career at the
    club and how players now react.”

    Lol…Really…..lol

    Anelka, Overmars and Petit didn’t hang around for long….Vieira was desperate to leave and mocked Arsenal’s transfer policy under Wenger……

  32. Marko

    We can go round in circles all day with that superficial nonsense. At present it looks like City are a bigger trophy threat. So that it settled then? Oh no, wait….tell me where Alexis would be earning a bigger wage, Arsenal or City? So try pulling from all the relatable materials on Alexis ehh, give the above some of your trademark ‘analysis’.

    Right so we’re both agreeing that he’s more likely to win a league and compete for the champions league at City and not Arsenal and given that if we offered him a new deal it’d be for more money and if he signed for City he’d be on more money too cause they can match what we’d offer its down to more wages and a chance of competing for major honours at City against more wages and an unrealistic chance of competing for major honours at Arsenal. Tough decision. Anyway considering everything to just paint him as a mercenary for me is bang out of order

  33. Champagne charlie

    Just like to point out that Bamford, true to form, has bowed out of the football debate after attempting to change tact to academia and sociopolitical theory when floundering.

    I found that worthy of a chuckle.

  34. Marko

    Show me your evidence for Bayern “obviously” not affording his transfer fee. while you’re at it,

    Right never said they couldn’t afford his transfer fee (absolutely could) I said that they are a smart and well run club who were not about to spend 70 million on a transfer fee for a player they can sign on a free contract in 6 months. Their record transfer fee is 35 million. And honestly if you think the transfer fee didn’t play a part then I’m afraid that you’ve gotta be a stupid person. If we were giving him away for 10 million or nothing then I’m sure his wages of 20 million a year wouldn’t have been a problem but combined with a 70 million transfer fee it was obviously a bad deal for them they’re smarter than that

  35. Don

    Yeah, facts speak for themselves and there’s no denying antisemitism exists.Also true that you cannot critic Israeli politics without being called an antisemite.

    Karim
    Also true that Jews are the most persecuted race in history. Since before the times of Jesus.
    Anti Semitism seems to run deep in humanity

    Anyway, I’m not Jewish for the record and that’s a conversation for another day

  36. Don

    PierreAugust 23, 2017 14:00:02
    Have to say Don that I am with you regarding this season and the title challenge .. Not writing us off at all..

    Pierre
    Not saying we are favourites as I consider spurs and united above us in terms of quality and management but their squads aren’t very big at all. Let’s hope the champions league takes its toll.

    City are less of a threat and Chelsea are all over the shop

    If we play second string in cup competitions and keep our first team fresh while playing our players in their strongest posteriors then we have a real shot this year.
    We won’t have a better chance at the title than this and to get back in the big time.

  37. Paulinho

    “So basically you are saying that no one should pass to welbeck if he is in front of goal… Another strange theory from you”

    Not really going to happen is it? Ozil hides away on the flanks and looks to cross and crosses his fingers that someone will make something of it to pad his assists record. Can’t remember the last time Ozil actually ever made a run like Kolasinac’s in that situation. In fact Ozil NEVER makes any run with any goal scoring intention against well organised units who sit deep. Maybe if he had the balls to do that he would score more? Forget not passing, how about making the run Ramsey made in the F.A Cup final?

    Shows you how far Ozil has fallen. A couple of years ago people pointed to his assists record in contentious debates about his quality, and now it’s ‘chances created’, because even his assists record is nothing to shout about now.

  38. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Again……..unless you’re actually the person negotiating, where are you plucking the 70 mil from? Your arse isn’t a source.

    What has been established beyond debate is Alexis’s wage demands were too high for Bayern. Indisputable. With me so far?

    Ok cool…you also appreciate that for a club to talk to a player that suggests both a willingness to sell, and likely compromise for transfer?…still with me?

    Ok, so that’s Arsenal and Bayern in some dialogue, Bayern talk to Alexis and get hit with a demand that kills a deal. Unless of course you want to provide a made up version that has no basis in what’s been stated…

    Bayern don’t want to pay the made up figure of 70 mil if they can sign a precontract in Jan right? Ok terrific. So why not offer a player like Costa and 20mil? Because whatever you’re trying to make out, Bayern would want Alexis now and not in one years time given the players age.

  39. Don

    Marko

    Mate, he could have joined Juve or Bayern if he’d lowered his wage demands. Two giants of European football. How much more evident can it get that the most significant factor in him wanting to go is that it’s to a filthy oil club

  40. Redtruth

    Don

    Lets have a wager on Arsenal winning the title this season

    I will give you odds of 10-1 on a £100 bet that Arsenal will not win the title this season

  41. loyika

    @ Red

    PV4 criticized the transfer policy of Arsenal FC and not Arsene. And bringing up Paddy all the time!? If he really wanted to leave before he was sold he would have (and no one could have stopped him) the fact that he left when the club decided to sell him should tell you a lot about players.

    Petit left but still associates himself with everything Arsenal? Why is that? Same as Pires and others that went on to other clubs. Anelka was a flipping mercenary and behaved the same way to every flipping club he went to or played for, so has nothing to do with Arsenal FC and their desire to win stuff, more to do with Le Sulk and his thirst for the next footie fix (like a junkie is addicted t crack)

  42. Paulinho

    Charlie – I would love to sell him for £35 mill but I doubt any of the Liverpool or Chelsea are actually remotely interested him unless he comes in on a free.

    Think Chamberlain’s dad/agent is doing a great job of creating the illusion of interest when there isn’t any.

  43. steve

    “and won of them hasn’t won the league for over 3 years now and don’t look likely to win at again until may 2019 at the ealiest.”

    You don’t think Man City are likely to win the league this season? They are the favorites by most.

  44. Champagne charlie

    Paulinho

    Quite possibly the case, think Arsenal need to take advantage of chelseas desperation frankly and rinse them. That being said, until an offer comes in its dubious interest as you say.

  45. Leedsgunner

    Wenger continually says he isn’t afraid to buy.

    He also says he isn’t afraid to spend big on players he deems exceptional.

    He’s been giving the same line for years and years… transfer window after transfer window.

    Therefore my question is this…

    Jenkinson, Debuchy, Gibbs, Campbell, Akpom they were all signed up or given extensions under this mantra. Sure he bought (or brought them in) because they were deemed exceptional?

    Why can’t we sell them? Haven’t they progressed under his mentorship?

    Whatever way you look at it, Wenger and the club do not come look good.

    Why has Wenger been allowed give such average players such rich contracts so that we can’t given move them on?

    What an absolute omnishambles.

    To think that Wenger and Gazidas like to lecture others on the importance of financial prudence is truly laughable… and tragic.

    Is there another manager in world football that is lacking such self awareness?

  46. steve

    @Don

    I’m not sure if you’re aware of it or not but Wenger is still the manager of Arsenal. That should tell you something about the chances of Arsenal winning the league.

  47. loyika

    @ Red

    Like i said, if Paddy really wanted to leave or force a move away back then (which he could have) why didn’t he?

  48. Pierre

    Paulinho
    .” In fact Ozil NEVER makes any run with any goal scoring intention against well organised units who sit deep”

    Did ozil hit the post and have one cleared off the line v Chelsea in FA cup final. Or is this not regarded as important game and are Chelsea’s defence not considered a well organised unit

    Keep digging.. The hole is getting bigger

  49. N5

    Pierre if you’re talking about the FA cup final in your last comment to me that wouldn’t have been me. I only started moaning about Ozil after the charity shield until then I’ve always defended him and used the most assists excuse.

  50. N5

    Also I must add you’ll rarely hear me bad mouth players or Wenger! I’m never abbusive towards any of them I just ask questions at times about certain situations so if you’re remembering anyone bad mouthing a player it most probably wasn’t me!

    Unless it was Sanogo, Stan or Ivan of course!

  51. Paulinho

    Pierre – You’ve already fallen in yours.

    Well at that point of the match they weren’t particularly organised were they? Every man and his dog knows Chelsea were asleep in that first half. Ramsey actually stepped up when they had roused themselves. Says a lot you keep pointing to instances in games that were extremely open. How about away at Dortmund, or away at Liverpool when they are 1-0 with their tails up? Yeah, thought not.

    Looking Ozil’s career, you don’t have leg to stand on in that particular argument. Think the goal against Italy is literally the only time he scored in a moment you could describe as being testing.

    Wenger even said himself two years ago Ozil needs to score more, and two years on, not one iota of progress made. So your argument has already been smashed by his biggest apologist.

  52. Paulinho

    And when Ozil does score or look to score more, his assist record drops. Proving that his strength in one department is due to a large extent on weaknesses in other areas. Can’t be in two places at once.

  53. Marko

    Ok cool…you also appreciate that for a club to talk to a player that suggests both a willingness to sell, and likely compromise for transfer?…still with me?

    Oh yeah no clubs always get permission from the club to talk to the player and his agent. Of course there was a willingness to sell even though Wenger has said no all summer long. No no you’re right. The 70 million fee is admittedly just being reported but sure your implication that Bayern were negotiating a smaller fee but it was wages that scuppered the deal goes against everything Wenger has said all summer

  54. Marko

    Mate, he could have joined Juve or Bayern if he’d lowered his wage demands. Two giants of European football. How much more evident can it get that the most significant factor in him wanting to go is that it’s to a filthy oil club

    How much would they have had to pay for him? Does that not factor into the argument

  55. Azagunner

    MarkoAugust 22, 2017 13:30:31
    “why not talk about potential new signings, formations and tactics rather than the same boring Wenger narrative.Yeah but as an Arsenal supporter one can’t really talk about potential new signings, formations or tactics without exposing how truly awful Wenger is at all 3. I mean those three things are literally what he’s the worst at. You can’t talk about them without showing how inept he is”

    Cc don alex and now puma 9 are always cheering between each other when they think they show someone up, well I’d just like to just say bravo on that response haha. Quite the way to shut someone down haha. Those blokes are twats.

  56. Azagunner

    Also Don,
    You’re like that women in the Simpson’s always saying “won’t someone please think of the children” where in this case the children is Wenger. You’re annoying as hell with your condescending remarks and always thinking you’re a better fan because you respect the manager. Go f yourself.