Arsenal win Emirates Cup but summer progress still not shining

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So a fairly fun weekend of football. When I say fun, I mean, next to, say, not watching football.

We ripped Benfica to bits in a bit of a weird game. Sure, we won 5-2, but it was a game of mostly half arsed goals, bar one magic rifle of a shot from Iwobi.

Highlights mostly centred around Theo Walcott showing us he ‘might’ be incredible for 12 games this season. The spotlight was also shared with Nelson, the 17 year old hotshot from Elephant & Castle. The young winger showcased his explosive pace and keen appetite for whipping in tasty first-time crosses.

DO NOT BE FOOLED

This is standard practice for preseason, there’s always one kid we lose our mind about before not seeing them the whole season, followed by 14 loans, followed by a swift exit to Reading.

The kid looks great, but he’s most likely far too young to impact our season… though my Arsenal senses lead me to believe we don’t need a Thomas Lemar, because we already have the British version.

ARSENE KNOWS

Anyway, nice to spank a team in the opening game.

The second match versus Sevilla was a bit more interesting, the team lined up closer to how you’d imagine it will next week. The really interesting experiment was playing Elneney as a ball playing centre back for the whole game. The Egyptian gives us more options moving the ball forward, he has a strong physical presence, but I think he lacks that recovery pace of Koscielny. Interesting all the same, would be fascinated to see how that sort of move would play out in a real game.

The rest of the 90 was pretty low energy. Lacazette looked mostly lost in our line up. He had some nice touches, but he looks out of sync at the moment. He did score in the second half. Alex Chamberlain powered through on the right, cut a ball back to WELBZ, who dropped his customary air shot, cleverly allowing the Frenchman in at the back post to tap in.

Tough to really comment on the rest. It was a very lazy game.

What? Do I have concerns?

Yes.

I’m struggling to see how we’re developing our pressing game. The cup final was a superb example of what sort of team we can be when we press as a unit. I saw none of that. People keep on bleating that it’s just a friendly, and sure, that’s true on paper. But here’s the thing, a friendly is preparation for what you plan to do in the new season. Pressing is a philosophy the club should be working on. To not see it present a week from the Community Shield is a worry.

We’re heading into the new season under prepared from a squad perspective. We still don’t have the best centre midfield options. We’re probably short a center back, if the choices we’ve made in preseason tell you anything. We’ve also struggled to shift on a bulk of our deadwood.

We’re going up against stiff competition this season, I’m not sure we’ve moved the needle. But we’ll see in a couple of weeks when we roll out against Leicester.

Maybe the marginal backroom changes have had an impact. Who knows. What I can say is looking at preseason so far, I’m not feeling too confidence we’re about to make moves on the PL. It’s laughable that Wenger thinks his coaching skills can take down Conte, Mourinho, and Pep spending.

What do you think dear fan? Let us know in the comments. xx

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  1. champagne charlie

    Marko

    i asked a simple question…to judge the rivals activity to this point. Yet for every one of them you talked about potential deals etc etc. Christ you try hard to prop up the rest.

    Your view of Terry is toeing the embarrassing line mate, which is mighty funny given the grief youve laid upon Don for stating wilshere is our most talented midfielder. Denying the influence of Terry at Chelsea is the same as suggesting Arsenal didnt miss Vieira. Awful analysis.

  2. Marko

    when we replaced 29yr old RVP with 26yr old Giroud were you saying similar?

    Are you kidding me? Of course not. At least Morata has a bit more pedigree he’s joined Chelsea with champions league experience and Spanish caps under his belt. Not in the least bit comparable. Come on man

  3. N5

    I’m still scratching my head about Costa. Is it just that he’s to hard to manage because from where I’m sitting Conte getting rid is crazy! Also he did it by text, which is strange considering he’s known to be a strict manager.

  4. Don

    N5

    Pochettini rates tripper highly
    That’s why he dropped walker in favour of him last year
    They have some serious talent coming through
    It’s actually refreshing to see a club grow organically like that and a foreign manager blooding young Brits and trying to bring them on in favour of short term journeymen like blind or mikel
    Or over inflated full backs like city just bought
    What a waste of £150m
    They could have really improved their spine with that

  5. N5

    I was playing manager role in FIFA 17 the other night and signed, Götze, Strootman, Costa, Hummels and M’Bappe in one window so I’m not really sure why Wenger has a job at Arsenal and I don’t.
    It’s fucking easy. I won everything in one season and was offered the Brazil national team!!

  6. Redtruth

    Emiratesstroller
    “HenryYes I am a realist and there will come a point in the not too distant future when I stop going to Arsenal in part because of my age, but also because I no longer enjoy watching football.”

    You should step aside now and allow a real fan who cares sbout the club to take your seat.

  7. N5

    Don, I know mate. I said similar earlier on and was a bit ashamed to say I’m a little envious of how well Tottenham are being run currently. From a youth persepective anyway.

  8. Carts

    I see us paying way over the odds for Lemar. I think it’ll be close to the price of Lacazette, if not a few quid more.

  9. Don

    Marko

    If we kept Sanchez and signed costa do you think he’d improve us and how much?
    Also
    If we signed Morata but lost Sanchez, again do you think we would improve?

  10. champagne charlie

    Marko

    Now do arsenal? sure…

    We were at odds defensively last season with two new defenders being slotted in at varying points (mustafi, holding). we didnt know our best defensive base all season until we changed formation and begab to look like something of a solid side, despite obvious teething issues with the switch. Left side needed strengthening because only Monreal could function there.

    Up top we tried Alexis, which was ok, Giroud was also ok but stifled us, Welbz was promising but we weren’t potent with him. Striker top of the list for summer.

    In the middle of the pitch we couldnt find a combination that worked or promised as much as Cazorla/Xhaka. Xhaka too was finding his feet which caused problems given the lack of technical ability alongside him.

    So for me we needed a rethink at the back and found a promising solution backend of the season. Bought Kolasinac which gives us much better balance. The CF role will again be co tested by Giroud/Welbz whose limitations we know of, but we’ve dug deep and bought a goalmachine at last (huge improvement when hes up to speed). Just central midfield to improve, specifically getting a Cazorla type. If the window shut tomorrow we’d have to answer the same questions. Theres a month to go though, so 2 of 3 problem areas addressed at this point is improvement.

  11. Stephan

    Don

    You just come here rattling things that honestly make you look like your on meds…
    So hazard and bakayoko are out for the year right?
    Smh

    1.How are chelsea weaker?
    They have a better midfield than we do,better keeper than we do, the only thing we on par with them right now is our attack!
    Which is even ?? Based on I don’t know how morata adapts,but geez this is basically the same team that blew us away-18points difference
    Keep talking about terry influence in the changing room like you have a secret camera there to see him talk…pitiful
    They have the UCL,so what?
    We have the UEL. Thursday to Sunday matches,longer distances to travel,more matches to play
    Which one do you think is worse?
    Don’t deceive yourself that Wenger will play a second string side in Europe. He’s gonna wanna kill 2 beds with one stone
    That alone puts more pressure on our team

    2.Pep is in his 2nd season,he’s had a feel of it and we can tell by how he went out and spent money on what his team needs
    This is a coach who knows how to win. His UCL medals speak for him unlike others.
    City will do well,way better than last I can assure you of that.

    3.Man utd have bought also
    In defense and attack,while during up their midfield with a proven winner
    They have an EPL proven striker, not throwing shade on Lacazette or Morata, but if anyone is to do well, it’s Lukaku
    He’s young,powerful and ambitious. Having a manger with a winning mentality
    Mourinho is also a winner, has a point to prove this season
    Man utd won’t be easy to beat this season, I assure you

    4. Arsenal have 2 new signings
    Lacazette and Kolasinic.
    The former looks really descent, but I feel he lacks the physicality of the EPL
    Could easily be bullied
    And I fear Wenger might use Giroud more than him if he doesn’t perform early enough when the pressure sets in
    Really hoping he comes good for his sake early enough
    Our midfield is shite,not even gonna bother
    The defense looks good, but prone to lots of mistakes as we saw last season
    No much change there
    Kolasinic is a LB,Buh Montreal is still doing very well
    So might have limited matches
    If we loose Sanchez,we won’t be in the top 5 that I assure you

    5. Spurs haven’t done much this summer.
    Personally felt they were the best team last season in terms of pure brillian football.
    Let’s see how they cope with the new stadium and all
    Buh still feel their team is short staffed
    Might struggle with the amount of games they’ll have and injuries

    All in all,City are the strongest,followed my Chelsea,then Man utd then we have to struggle with Liverpool, and Spurs
    Conte, Pep and Mourinho will definitely be in the top 3
    This coaches are motivated, unlike ours

  12. Don

    N5

    Well it’s nice to see
    It’s a great blueprint for getting the national game up to speed
    The more we follow their example the better hopes we have of getting our best talent ready for the national side

  13. Marko

    Your view of Terry is toeing the embarrassing line mate, which is mighty funny given the grief youve laid upon Don for stating wilshere is our most talented midfielder.

    There’s as much evidence of Terry’s influence on them winning the title last season as there is of Wilshere being Arsenal’s most talented midfielder. I thought I gave an assessment on them but did note that some still needed more

  14. Don

    Steph

    We are better in both wing back positions too
    Even our second choice wing back is a target to replace their first choice.
    Their midfield doesn’t look better than ours to me
    Not without matic
    What do they have? Kante and fabregas until bakayoko comes back and can find his feet
    Pogba didn’t manage to did he?

    Like I said , Chelsea may he a shout for next season but they’ve lost too much I. Terms of quality and leadership in one window and haven’t replaced it

  15. Don

    Marko

    There’s as much evidence of Terry’s influence on them winning the title last season as there is of Wilshere being Arsenal’s most talented midfielder. I thought I gave an assessment on them but did note that some still needed more

    Well actually the first season we lose wilshire is the first season we drop out of the top four so it could be argued…..

    N5 loves a good…..

  16. Marko

    Theres a month to go though, so 2 of 3 problem areas addressed at this point is improvement.

    Isn’t it one of three though? A second choice left back is hardly addressing a squad issue and certainly doesn’t improve the starting 11 which is where we needed major work on. But I’d like to address the defence. You say that we’ve addressed that problem with the formation change but up top you referenced City as being wank defensively and soft in the centre but you don’t really acknowledge that with us we’ve the same problems but worse. Sure we’ve changed formation but this preseason by all accounts Man City are looking at changing formation too so they therefore aren’t wank and soft right?

  17. Micheal

    Stan Kroenke:

    Our once great club, with proper values and traditions, has been in decline ever since this slimy character entered the scene. He has allowed Wenger full rein to mismanage on the field and in other areas like transfers and youth development. He has no interest in football, employs a incompetent patsy like Gazidis to keep the flies away from himself and has no ambition whatsoever for Arsenal Football Club.
    Today we learn that he promotes a tacky TV channel encouraging people to kill animals for sport.
    Calling Kroenke a cunt hardly does justice to this despicable shit.
    Fuck off back to America Mr Kroenke and don’t come back.

  18. Don

    Stephan

    There we go again

    IF we lose Sanchez…..IF

    We haven’t, have we?
    He’s been told he’s staying this year and that’s that

  19. Don

    Marko

    Actually he (kolasinac) already looks to be first choice and judging by his performances so far looks an absolute steal

    So I’d say 2/3 is about right

  20. Do one gambon

    Funny aye Michael

    I mean if I started a YouTube channel promoting hunting kroenkes for sport (the wig would look nice hanging on my wall) I’m sure I’d be locked up in no time.

    The fucking hypocrite

  21. Marko

    Well actually the first season we lose wilshire is the first season we drop out of the top four so it could be argued…..

    Good one

  22. Marko

    Actually he (kolasinac) already looks to be first choice and judging by his performances so far looks an absolute steal

    He’s first choice where? And his signing addresses the 65 goals conceded last season? Jaysus

  23. Don

    Marko

    No but it is one of four things that will contribute heavily to that number receding

    1) a stronger more powerful left back can’t hurt
    2) three at the back
    3) chambers mustafi and holding having another year of experience under their belt, vital for centre halves more than any other position bar gk
    4) and perhaps most importantly, arsenal have lost only one game with mustafi and kos starting together!!!
    Keep them to going with the new set up and we will see a massive improvement there

  24. ThePuma9

    Marko

    ‘ A second choice left back is hardly addressing a squad issue and certainly doesn’t improve the starting 11 which is where we needed major work on’

    Do you even watch The Arsenal? Monreal is our version of Azpiliceuta and will play in the back 3 and The Tank has been brought in to play LWB.

    2nd choice? Honestly try opening your eyes and watch us when we play instead of repeating yourself posting on Le grove while the match is on. Might learn something.

  25. Gooner63

    Love the way people still seem to think we are at the same level as Spurs – most of the spurs starting line up could walk into our team

    If we get Lemar to play RW, keep Alexis and we get a quality powerhouse in CM – then maybe we can compete- else dont bother – roll on 2 years and hopefully a manager who has some idea what hes doing.

    ps – i forgot – we also need someone who knows how to organise a defence

  26. Don

    Marko

    What other proof do you need?
    If Chelsea drop Points and league position this year then surely that is evidence of all of the things I’ve highlighted?

    We kept the same squad that finished second and as soon as wilshire leaves we drop to 5th!!!

  27. Stephan

    Don

    We had better wing backs than Chelsea, all well and good
    But that didnt stop them from giving us a huge gap,did it?

    Chelsea have fabregas, better than anyone we got,if you can’t see that then there is no point. Kante shits on any DM we have
    Bakayoko is there to replace Matic,its not like he was sold without a replacement
    The only thing I’ll agree with you on is morata
    He did well for Juve and Madrid, he has pedigree. But the Epl is very physical, might struggle. but hey, he thrived in the seria A
    If you have doubts about him, then you should also have doubts about our own lacazette cute. He also is from weak league
    As I said earlier, lukaku might do better than both

    Drop the whole Terry tingy it’s irrelevant
    This are people who know how to win
    They’ve been there and done it
    We ought to have bought alot more if we wanted to actually compete
    I fear Wenger just wants his top4 trophy

  28. graham62

    I can’t believe the number of posts on here giving opinions on tactics and formations. As fans, we should not be concerned about these things. However, when you have such an incompetent and delusional manager in charge, I suppose it is understandable.

    I think we can all agree that the communications coming out of Arsenal , specifically exhuding from AW, show us all that he has completel lost the plot. Those of you who still hold a torch for this fool, must surely realize that he is destroying the club with his mindboggling decision making and outdated mindset.

    If, as I fear, things go downhill quickly once the new season commences, ALL SUPPORTERS MUST ACT and show unity(and some balls) to get Wenger out of the club. If he stays, we will only have ourselves to blame.

    AFC COMES FIRST!!

  29. Stephan

    Don

    I’ve heard wenger talk this sternly about players

    I won’t be caught unawares again
    Wenger is a snake, not to be trusted
    Sanchez comes tomorrow or so
    Then he’ll speak,so we know where we stand

  30. Emiratesstroller

    RT

    As usual you are a total idiot.

    I think that someone who has been supporting and watching Arsenal for 60 years is a real fan.

    All you ever do is write negatives and criticise people who support the club.

    When I first read your posts I thought you were just a WUM. When I learned
    that you had been banned by Pedro on more than one occasion I realised that
    it was actually more serious. When I read some of your posts like suggesting that Messi is not World Class I know that you are a nutter.

    Sadly I cannot delete what you write otherwise I would do so.

  31. kristoman

    Marko there is no saving that boy Don. Just give up on him, his is far gone. For him to claim we dropped out of top 4 because will loan wheelchair says it all.

  32. Marko

    We kept the same squad that finished second and as soon as wilshire leaves we drop to 5th!!!I

    He hasn’t made a difference to Arsenal for years if at all ever

  33. ThePuma9

    Goner63

    ‘Spurs – most of the spurs starting line up could walk into our team’

    Haha fuck off. Let’s see how that wonder team gets on at Wembley shall we?

  34. Marko

    Do you even watch The Arsenal? Monreal is our version of Azpiliceuta and will play in the back 3 and The Tank has been brought in to play LWB.

    He’s better LWB though. And Monreal is first choice with Kos and Mustafi I’m guessing.

  35. Stephan

    Don

    Naa,we didn’t drop to 5th cuz of Wilshire left, we dropped cuz other teams moved ahead. The points tally clearly shows that

  36. kristoman

    Joe last year stated with these influx of best managers to epl. Wenger will not qualify for CL. Guess he was right after all.

  37. ThePuma9

    Graham

    ‘I can’t believe the number of posts on here giving opinions on tactics and formations. As fans, we should not be concerned about these things. ‘

    No you’re right. Why the fuck would football fans ever have conversations on a football blog about their teams tactics and formations?

    What a fucking lemon.

    You stick to the politics surrounding the manager like a ‘proper’ football fan.

  38. Emiratesstroller

    What has not been discussed recently on Le Grove is that Kolasinac can also play in DMF position.

    Does anyone think that might be an option tried by Wenger sometime this season.

    Whilst Monreal has played CB in the past I don’t think that this has happened
    in competitive EPL game since we switched to three at back. The three players
    used were Mustafi, Koscielny and Holding with Gabriel replacing Holding in the one game we lost against Spurs.

    What will be interesting is what formation Wenger uses against Leicester
    when Koscielny is suspended.

  39. Cesc Appeal

    ES

    Kolasinac looked great at LWB against Benfica, let him own that position this season.

    If Wenger wants a CDM, go out and buy a player who is actually a CDM. This whole multi-role bullshit he has tried, moving players all over the pitch has not worked out at all over the last decade.

    Oxlade at RWB and Kolasinac at LWB is all I am looking forward to seeing.

  40. Bamford10

    Would someone care to explain the dynamics of this supposed “Wembley effect”? What about playing at Wembley (rather than WHL) will negatively affect Spurs?

    Am interested in better understanding this idea.

  41. Joe

    So now instead of our team and manager being better and outdoing our rivals, akbs
    Are banking on :

    Spurs dropping points because of wembley not because we are better

    Chelsea dropping points because they lost terry and Costa

    Remember what happened last time wenger had his big chance when all the big teams had a shit season. He shit the bed and came 10 points behind Leicester. Wonder why jack couldn’t win the league for us that season since he is so influential

    City soft MF? They have gungdogan coming back who is better then anyone we have.

    Hmmm how did chelsea do after inspirational leader fat frank left.

    How much leadership did terry show when they came 10th?

    Can’t wait for the season so the akbs fuck off and hide again.

    Chelsea last 3/4 seasons have got 82,87 and 93 points. Wenger won’t break 80 this season.

  42. Cesc Appeal

    Bamford

    Total fantasy, but if Barcelona gave us £40 Million for Ozil I would go straight out and grab someone like Danilo, then add a player like Lemar and have a far more robust looking team.

    Said it before, Xhaka, Ramsey and Ozil as the core of this team basically means the season is over before it starts for us if the goal is to be a top side. That is the reason I never understood the clamor for Mahrez, that is one-hundred and eighty degrees away from the direction we need to go. He is no loss.

  43. Bamford10

    Cesc

    I agree: Ramsey, Xhaka + Ozil is not a good enough “central three,” regardless the formation.

    As for Mahrez, I basically see your point, but if we were playing 4-3-3 and I were choosing between Mahrez, Walcott and Welbeck, I would go with Mahrez without even thinking about it. If I were comparing him to Alexis or Lemar wide right (again in a 4-3-3) then I would opt for one of them probably.

    However, if we are only playing 3-4-3 — or even primarily playing 3-4-3 — Mahrez doesn’t make sense. IMO.

  44. Carts

    Liverpool will receive Suarez money for Coutinho. Coutinho only just signed an ext. earlier this year.

    He’ll have to hand in a TR if he really wants to bounce. And in order for Liverpool not to get shegged, any deal would need to happen like yesterday to allow them to find a replacement without getting bent over a barrel.

  45. Bamford10

    Don

    Was that a question? About odds? Sure, bookies’ odds, or percentages.

    I just want to better understand your level of confidence in Arsenal this season relative to Spurs, City, Chelsea, United, Liverpool.

    Enlighten us.

  46. UDA

    ox was in beast mode yesterday, but lets not get carried away. hector is more secure at the back. ox is prone to conceding silly penalties or freekicks near the box. or even trying to dribble out of the back and losing the ball. i’d keep bellerin, especially against teams with better attackers.

  47. kristoman

    Joe don’t worry they are weaker cause JT Left them. God these guys are really far gone. Trying to belittle other teams achievement by stating bogus facts.

  48. Don

    Bamford

    I don’t do odds but I think we are most likely to finish 3rd/4th

    I think it’s between united and spurs for top spot and us Chelsea and city fighting for remaining spots

    That’s my prediction
    It could be wrong
    But that my hunch

    I think united will be strong this year with lukaku up top and if pogba can get going with matic holding and Herrera dictating the tempo it could free him up to do what he wants and make those runs of his.

    Again spurs could falter due to champions league commitments and an over reliance on youngsters, not to mention Wembley
    To answer your question the Wembley affect is
    1) a much bigger pitch and less personal than WHL

    We found that out when we did champs league games there and our tight defensive game was opened up at Wembley.

    I think city are a centre half and a dominating midfielder away from
    Being the stand out team in the league and I have given my opinion on Chelsea

    Liverpool will fall back this year I think
    Don’t think klopp has the measure of the league
    I don’t think pep does either teally

  49. Don

    CA

    Monaco I meant, not moana!!
    The fact that moana is even in my dictionary is a clear indication of what I’m being subjected to at home

  50. Bamford10

    Regarding Sanchez, Wenger has apparently today said: “One day Sanchez will go and Arsenal will go on.”

    That sounds a little like Sanchez’s time at Arsenal is done, whether he stays or goes. But I guess I’d need a little more context with respect to Wenger’s remark, his tone of voice, etc.

  51. Cesc Appeal

    Don

    Moana?

    Bamford

    A 4-3-3 with Ozil wide as one of the attacking three? Because again, in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 Ozil as CAM is just a busted flush.

    I have banged on about this for years, you are better off with a Pjanic or Fabregas type central midfield player and then a wide playmaker like Lemar. In a 4-3-3 that would work very nicely.

    Ozil is a total dud. No doubt he will have a good game in the coming weeks and the usual suspects will be on trying to make jokes about him being useless. But that changes nothing. We are not progressing with him in the team, he is as much a weight dragging us down as Wenger is.

    In the EPL as a side that supposedly wants to be at the top you cannot have any passengers, that is what Ozil is, he crops up every now and then in a game and you think ‘f**k me Ozil is playing, forgot about him’ and might slide a nice ball in or dribble around someone or something, then he disappears again. Zero presence, zero control of a game, zero influence, not a match winner and cannot carry our attacking game which all his supporters claim he can do.

  52. Don

    Sorry bamford
    2) psychological effect too
    Players get used to their surroundings and our home ground can become a fortress
    We saw that when we left Highbury too

  53. kristoman

    I don’t do odds but I think
    we are most likely to finish
    3rd/4th
    I think it’s between united
    and spurs for top spot and us
    Chelsea and city fighting for
    remaining spots
    That’s my prediction
    It could be wrong
    But that my hunch
    I think united will be strong
    this year with lukaku up top
    and if pogba can get going
    with matic holding and Herrera
    dictating the tempo it could
    free him up to do what he
    wants and make those runs of
    his.
    Again spurs could falter due to
    champions league
    commitments and an over
    reliance on youngsters, not to
    mention Wembley
    To answer your question the
    Wembley affect is
    1) a much bigger pitch and less
    personal than WHL
    We found that out when we
    did champs league games
    there and our tight defensive
    game was opened up at
    Wembley.
    I think city are a centre half
    and a dominating midfielder
    away from
    Being the stand out team in
    the league and I have given my
    opinion on Chelsea
    Liverpool will fall back this year
    I think
    Don’t think klopp has the
    measure of the league
    I don’t think pep does either
    really
    I know its an opinion but jesus can you listen to your self Don?

  54. Carts

    “oi, my reiss Nelson in football manager 2017 is a stud, he’s world class by 2021″

    Which translates to him signing for 1860 munich by 2021

  55. Don

    CA

    Completely agree with you on Ozil

    Total luxury that only super clubs can afford in leagues that they totally dominate

  56. Ishola70

    On the Terry issue Rudiger will be a good signing for them.

    Defence will not be a problem with Conte in charge so all this talk of Terry looks redundant.

    Chelsea have to answer question marks about replicating Costa’s goals from CF. Defence will be ok. There may well be a situation where Batshuayi could take the first team spot with more first team opportunities.

    With Arsenal it’s the other way around. The question marks about Arsenal are always defensively and this will be the case this time around again despite the back three formation and the main area of questioning is will the central midfield be good enough without the ball. That’s about it.

  57. Cesc Appeal

    Don

    I think the total lack of interest in him despite his contract situation is very telling. Even the terms of his new deal, £280 000 a week, is a climb down from what he was demanding. Still way, way too much. Worth about half that, and even then I would prefer to just sell and rejig the side.

    Compare him to Sanchez who has had PSG, City, Chelsea, Munich all tapping him up.

  58. HighburyLegend

    “One day Sanchez will go and Arsenal will go on.”
    –>
    “One day Sanchez will go and Arsenal will keep on fighting for the 4th spot.”

  59. Don

    City remind me of the Liverpool and Newcastle teams of the mid to late 90s
    Bags of attacking talent but too weak in crucial positions in the spine of the team

    Owen and fowler were top draw forwards with macca and Berger in support but they never won them a title

    Newcastle had shearer, Ferdinand, asprilla and ginola up top but again were week through the middle

    If city don’t address those issues they will go the same way in my book
    Very like the arsenal team with cesc, nasri, hleb, rosicky and RvP.

    We were weak in the middle and could only finish 3rd or 4th

  60. Bamford10

    Don

    Fair enough. So you see it in something like the following way:
    1. United / Spurs
    2. Spurs / United
    3. Arsenal / City / Chelsea
    4. City / Arsenal / Chelsea

    You say City lack the CM & CB required to win the league. So that would seem to imply that both United and Spurs possess such CMs and CBs.

    Let’s take a closer look at that. United’s central three looks maybe like Matic, Herrera and Pogba. Spurs’ central three looks like Wanyama, Dier and Dembele. City’s central three looks like Fernandinho, Bernardo Silva and Gundogan/Toure.

    While I’d say each of the above has its strengths and weaknesses, I don’t see that United is all that much stronger than City (if at all). Spurs aren’t all that in terms of quality but they do have solidity, continuity & chemistry. As for City, Bernardo Silva will be the best CM in the league and Fernandinho is a better CDM than Matic, but Gundogan/Toure is a little concern.

  61. Don

    Bamford

    Gundugen is injry prone
    Spurs have a the most potent striker in the league. City have a promising but unproven forward who having injury troubles

    Spurs have one of the best keepers in the league
    They have two of the best if not the two best centre halves in the league too and deli ali is also a big player too

    Toure is finished
    Completely
    Fernandinho is not as good as any of spurs midfield. None of them
    They play two in the middle not 3

    Also Bernardo silva is going to take time to adjust
    Can’t see him walking in and wiping the floor with the league
    He’s only played in weaker leagues
    Portugal and France and as we all know coming from those leagues to this one is a big step up in quality and intensity
    Veron was a great mf as is pogba but neither of them could get to grips with our league
    Is silva in their league? Can he be? Can he adapt
    Big question mark there

    So for me spurs are better in every single position except attacking midfield

  62. HighburyLegend

    “We were weak in the middle and could only finish 3rd or 4th”

    What’s wrong with those places ??

  63. Emiratesstroller

    CA

    The reason I posed the question about Kolasinac as DMF is that I still think that Monreal is good enough to play in starting X1 as LB but not as a CB.

    Everyone has been concerned about our midfield including myself. My issue
    there is not about the quality of the players individually, but the balance and chemistry between them.

    Koslasinac is clearly a powerful player and a decent footballer with a good engine and I think that he is an upgrade on Coquelin who was incidentally used
    in his earlier days as a full back.

    We know that there is a shortage of top class midfielders in the market. Most
    of the good ones fetch at the moment grossly inflated prices.

    We could use Kolasinac and Monreal in same team, and it would allow us to
    invest in other options, which are equally needed.

  64. Stephan

    This argument we having I believe is pretty simple

    Chelsea have Conte and a title winning team which blew everyone away last season
    From Chelsea rumors flying around, they are still interested in getting other players
    Sure they’ll get another one with that matic money coming in
    So they’ll, at the very least be at the level they were last season
    Mind you,Chelseas best 2 players are still there
    Hazard and Kante

    Man utd have Mourinho.
    No matter how much you hate him, he knows how to win
    He prioritized the UEL and won it, something I know Wenger cannot do. It’s a fact
    This season he wants the league,and he’ll come close, if not win it

    City have Pep. Last season was his first trophyless season ever and that hurt him
    He looked at his squad and has bought 6players!
    Center defense has Kompani stones otamendi
    If and only if Kompani remains fit,city will have a solid defense all round
    Remember,as Rocky as they were last season,they still conceded 5 fewer than we did
    They also will come close if not win it

    Arsenal have addressed attacking issues which Is applaudable
    Hope Lacazette really kicks it off
    Amongst the top 5,we have the weakest midfield
    Player for player we don’t come close
    Xhaka is extremely reckless and may cost us big time
    Ramsey,don’t have words for him
    The defense leaked a lot last season, let’s see how the boys cope with the new system in real competition
    All In all we have at best moved a step forward in attack and system change which hasn’t been tested
    Buh in terms of actually contesting for the title, we do fall short
    Another thing we have is Wenger,a Dinosaur
    Hasn’t won the league in over a decade,possibly doesn’t know how to anymore. He’s a cutlass and hoe in the time of a tractor. This squad we have in fairness should at least try to compete, but with him, we’ll be battling for 4th or 5th this season
    Liverpool and Spurs will be there surely, but just can’t see any contesting with the big 3 tbh

  65. Carts

    Reminds me of us supporters clamouring for Wenger to play Thomas Vermaelen as a DM. At this time Wenger wasn’t even looking to TV for anything. Song was stuck on FIFA mode and we were simply getting sliced through.

    Like fuck did Wenger try it.

  66. Don

    None of citys signings

    Chelsea have gone backwards
    They have lost all of their leaders
    To win the league you need a goal scorer
    Morata won’t cut it this year

  67. Carts

    For the life of me, I just can’t see Skids sustain that level. Their squad is too damn thin.

    They could well go on a few unbeaten runs, but the moment Kane or Alli break down, it’ll be a problem.

    The literally only have about 2 players that they can call from the bench, once they fielded their strongest 11, to remedy injuries.

  68. ThePuma9

    Bamford

    ‘. As for City, Bernardo Silva will be the best CM in the league’

    Not like you to jump on the bandwagon is it?

    Bernardo Silva isn’t and won’t ever be a CM.

  69. champagne charlie

    bamford when are you goimg to admit youre really a City fan? you bkow smoke up their arse all the time. On spurs at Wembley, they won’t be playing at “home” which, may seem arbitrary to you, but holds significant weight. Much like Emirates was a foreign place the first couple of years for us, wembley aint the Lane, the players and fabs will struggle to make it a formidable place

    Marko, how do you come to the conclusion Kolasinac is a backup LB? He was best LB in the bundesliga last year and statistically is comparable to Mendy who youve touted as the dogs bollocks… but our guy is a backup lb because it diminishes the relevance of his signing im guessing. Standard

  70. Marko

    Would someone care to explain the dynamics of this supposed “Wembley effect”? What about playing at Wembley (rather than WHL) will negatively affect Spurs?

    You wouldn’t think it’d be a factor but it is. We played there back in the day for European games and granted it was back when we were (still are) awful in Europe but we really struggled. Remember against Fiorentina and Batistuta was playing. Even last season Spurs struggled in Wembley. It’s too big a pitch

  71. Marko

    Charlie I thought he’d be back up cause Monreal has been so good at LWB. I mean if we want to accommodate Kolasinac by playing Monreal at CB fair enough but that doesn’t really improve us cause Monreal was so good and that was what I was saying he doesn’t really improve our starting 11 cause we were fine in that area. I actually have never really talked shit about his signing I’m okay with it

  72. graham62

    WARNING: There is a PUMA#9 about.

    Glad to see your still on form.

    You love to stalk your victims with your ignorant perspectives. If it’s not me/Goner 63/Kristoman/Marko, it’ll be someone else. What a true dickhead you are. Tottenham are, man for man, better than Arsenal. What Goner63 highlights is infact true, you ignorant tosser.

    I bet you’re one of those brainless morons who sing ‘STAND UP IF YOU HATE TOTTENHAM” because you think it’s what being an Arsenal supporter is all about. It’s common knowledge to hate Tottenham standing up , or sitting down, BUT, when they have(at present) a better team, play better football and have a better manager and owner, don’t take the piss out of those who clearly know their football a damn sight more than you do. Now who’s the lemon?

    One other thing, the next time you hit out at those bloggers who concern themselves with realities, rather than the hyperthetical garbage that whirls around in your CSE grade 5 head, bear in mind that this site is open to all perspectives not just you’re blinkered, arsene licking, bullyboy opinions.

    A typical sunday morning number 9(pass! pass! pass me the ####### ball!!!), or should I say, a typical headless chicken!

    Remember……………WE’RE WAITING FOR YOU!

  73. Don

    City are the modern equivalent of the spice boys team
    All flair no bollocks
    At least that Liverpool team had fowler in its ranks
    30 goal a season striker and still second best in the league

  74. Don

    Graham

    So you can only chant songs about teams that are lower than you in the league???
    Fuck me
    Clearly not a ball player either
    Another new age fan that knows nothing on football heritage and tradition.
    Arsenal fans will be standing up to hate Tottenham until the day the sun finally explodes or the meteor hits.

  75. ThePuma9

    Graham

    Your vague and creepily made up assumptions of me just validate my opinion, that you know fuck all about the game and you’re a straight up weirdo who would be out of his depth sitting round a table with the lads talking football.

    Politics yes, football no and that’s not me making things up, it shines through your shit posts.

  76. ThePuma9

    Graham

    Do you even know the Spuds are our rivals? Have you heard of this thing called the derby?

    Not by the sounds of it.

  77. graham62

    PUMA9

    Oh my goodness, did you really say that? Proves what I thought. Read you like a Ladybird book. Just one of the lads! Alway’s mouthing off, just to be heard. As I said “Pass the ####### ball”!

    How many derbies do you want to name?

    Enjoy the carnage. You know it’s going to happen.

  78. Bamford10

    Puma

    Sorry, if Bernardo Silva is not a CM, what is he, a CAM? If so, he’s a CAM like Modric is a CAM.

    Regardless he’ll do more with the ball in the middle third of the field than any Arsenal midfielder (be it Ramsey, Xhaka or Ozil).

  79. Bamford10

    Don

    “Spurs are better than City. None of City’s signings will change that.”

    I think this is utter nonsense, and I would like to wager on it. I say City beats Spurs in both of their head-to-heads and they finish above them.

    What do you say will happen, Don?

  80. tonyd

    Arsne’s stupid pay regime is coming back to bite Him.

    “Arsenal’s attempted squad clear-out has been delayed by players unwilling to take pay-cuts to leave.

    The Gunners are keen to sell a number of players manager Arsene Wenger has deemed surplus to requirements.

    But Arsenal are finding difficulty in moving their unwanted stars with prospective buyers reluctant to meet their wage demands.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4747834/Arsenal-summer-clear-delayed.html#ixzz4oSQ6Fjwn

  81. tonyd

    Wenger’s gaffs
    Well just a few of them. Too many to mention now as I’ve got a flight to catch to Bangkok.

    Lacazette
    I agree with N5 and others that Lacazette is going to need time to adjust to the EPL.

    My concern is that our poor mid field is not going to suit his fast penetrative game. Then he’ll be slated for something that is not his fault.

    I’ll judge him after 10 games.

    Contract Rebels

    As for the contract rebels, throw them into the reserves or just don’t play them. Let them rot for the season, especially with it being the ultimate world cup preview season.

    If they want to play hardball, we should match it.

    It’s not as if this season is going to be better than last season.

  82. Martin

    We are still slowly but surely heading for a transfer window end where the club ably assisted by Arsene Wenger make a profit overall and essentially improve nothing!
    Close to standing still after our worst PL finish in years and showing no real ambition to at least be viable contenders for the title.
    I can tolerate and accept not winning titles and have for long periods since the 1970’s but one thing that has been clear to me since 2009 is that Wenger, Gazidis and Kroenke do not have enough ambition on the pitch to even make us genuine contenders and a force to be reckoned with.
    I do not expect Arsenal FC to outspend Qatari, UAE or Russian owned clubs but my level expectation is relevant to the financial status of Arsenal. It is an unfortunate situation where ‘money talks’ and despite some fans saying that we can’t compete, we shouldn’t try to compete or standing on the coat tails of Arsene Wenger’s principled stance of only offering what he personally feels a player is worth, we do at least have the funds to spend and improve and MAKE deals happen. We continually fail to and consistently fall behind the status of the now successful (on the pitch) clubs.
    Until KSE with their spread sheet and statistically based approach to the sport (or indeed any of their sporting ventures), changes, Arsenal will continue to be also rans falling behind the ever adapting, innovative managers and owners.
    A win against Bayern on penalties? OK why not be happy. An Emirates Cup win? OK, all good and be content. Going into a new PL season with a feeling of here we go, same again attitude? No reasons to be cheerful.
    I can only hope to live long enough to see a club with revived by a new manager with innovative ideas and credible ambition and an owner who believes that success on the pitch leads to increased support and revenue and therefore is a sound way to look at the business that it has become.
    Let Stan concentrate on his wildlife killing and US franchise which consists of teams that don’t win anything but profits in the bank and let’s make Arsenal great again, PLEASE????