Alexis Sanchez to stay? Here’s what happened the last time Wenger put his foot down

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Quick post from me this evening because not much seems to have moved in the world of Arsenal.

Chilean goal machine, Alexis ‘the real deal’ Sanchez, might not land his BIG move to Manchester City to play under Pep G. Wenger is digging his 12 inch party shoes into the Emirates turf… roped the our poor old wingers neck.

‘Tu restes toi litte poo’

… is the word on the street.

It’s hard to work out what the game is here. All the stories are hinting that a mega offer would suffice. £90m being the touted number in which the club would agree to let him go. That’s a staggering amount of cash for a player with a year to go on his deal, but it’s the sort of money major clubs looking to win things will spend in the pursuit of proper trophies.

Here’s my thing. We really don’t need our best player stinking out the place for a whole season. I have my faith that Alexis is incapable of anything less than 100%, however, he’s more than capable of playing the game on his terms for the whole season. I love an Alexis show, but not the one where he’s losing the ball every 5 minutes and playing like a one man team.

I also don’t want him shutting down heading into a World Cup, looking to preserve his legs to make sure he’s peak health heading into a shopping window.

We’ve been here before with a ‘resolute manager not willing to budge’… remember that time when Wenger was growing quietly confident he’d keep Cesc and Nasri… then he shit the bed and sold both.

Lose Alexis and we’re less of a force, even if we do manage to prize Thomas Lemar from Monaco.

Still, plenty of summer to go.

Hopefully the club can work hard to shift on Perez, Jenks, Debuchy, Wilshere, Ospina and Gibbs. That’ll free up a nice bit of cash. I really hope we move on Giroud and Theo as well.

I can’t for the life of me work out why we can’t move on Theo. He’s no Arsenal player, but come on, he’s worth 20 goals a season to an Everton, Stoke or West Ham. He has pace, an eye for goal, and about 8 games where you think he’s grown a pair… usually because he’s had a fancy haircut and upped his body art game to a new slightly prison like level.

His slick do and sailor tatts don’t have me fooled… move him on, and take that fucking coffee machine off him because he’s not worth the Cuban dark roast his wife gifted him. Not by a long shot.

Other news?

Chamberlain is fending off the interest of no one and ‘might’ sign a new deal.

Magic. I do like the boy. Hope he can stay fit next season and prove all the everyday haters wrong. I also hope he keeps his popstar relationship going. No reason for that last point, it’s just nice he’s found happiness.

RIGHT, that’s me done. SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE.

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312 Responses to “Alexis Sanchez to stay? Here’s what happened the last time Wenger put his foot down”

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  1. Alexanderhenry

    CC

    On Alexis, he could stay, but only if he signs a new contract.

    I would be utterly flabbergasted if arsenal allow him to play out his contract and then go on a free.

  2. Cesc Appeal

    Yeah Rudy on a free as well.

    I wonder how they are going to line up? Vidal, Tolisso, Thiago as a middle, James, Lewandowski, Robben up top?

  3. Marko

    As envious of Bayern as we are CA they’ve got some problems coming up with players and game time. Coman and Kimmich are just two players who have complained about their game time last season. Rudy and Sule will likely rotate allseason and with Lahm retiring Kimmich will likely play more but Coman is likely to be in and out of the team all season

  4. Cesc Appeal

    Marko

    Yeah, but Vidal is thirty now, Robben must be coming toward the end. Some gaps in their side will open up by next season.

    Interesting to see how they do this season. They thrashed us but I was not that impressed with them, did not think they were anywhere near as good as Munich sides of the past.

  5. Jim Lahey

    “On Alexis, he could stay, but only if he signs a new contract.”

    I think you have a better chance of seeing Bankz or DM on the second page of comments than you do of Alexis staying..

  6. Marko

    It’s all about European showing for them really. I mean they won their league last season but still went out and signed 5 quality players. We finished 5th could stand to lose 2/3 players in the starting 11 and started out the summer talking about needing 3 players. Huge difference between their mentality and ours

  7. gonsterous

    someone explain to me again why we gave wenger a new contract ?? anyone could have come in and accomplished what wanker has done so far in the window…

  8. Redtruth

    “someone explain to me again why we gave wenger a new contract ?? anyone could have come in and accomplished what wanker has done so far in the window…”

    Accomplished…?

  9. Alexanderhenry

    Jim

    Agreed, but some on here actually think arsenal will keep him next season without him signing a new contract.

    This is as likely as dinosaurs walking the earth again.

  10. Alexanderhenry

    Redruth

    That’s right, it was ‘the fan’s’ who had a private meeting with wenger and offered him a new contract without even consulting the BOD.
    Not a reclusive, arrogant, incompetent, disinterested, greedy, pig headed, American billionaire with terrible dress sense and a comically unconvincing hair piece.

  11. Do one gambon

    Sanchez is gone.

    But rather than just get it done arsenal will fuck about until the windows about to close.

    In the mean time we won’t be proactive and sign replacements/additions of any note fucking about on that front too.

    Then mad trolley dash when Sanchez goes.

    All this just destabilises our season, time and time again.

    Its like they learnt nothing from fucking about prior to Liverpool and Leicester last season.

    How many points were we off the holy grail of fourth again?…

  12. Samesong

    The point is you’re a hypocricte. You say one thing on one blog then have a complete opposite view on another blog.

    Red do you have any evidence to back these claims you are making?

  13. Samesong

    Big clubs must have heard the rumour that Sanchez Is a fresding room nightmare !

    He probably holds onto the ball in the changing room too.

  14. Alexanderhenry

    Redruth

    That’s ‘hypocrite ‘.

    Anyway, my stance is that wenger hasn’t been a bad manager. In fact for most of the past twenty years he’s been a very good one. Up until a couple of seasons ago, he did about as well as could be expected under financial restrictions imposed by his employer.

    Now, I’m afraid wenger is too old, too stubborn and has lost his judgement.
    Also, his relationship with fans and the press has deteriorated to the point where it’s best for everyone that he leaves.

    Over the past ten years it’s been kroenke not wenger, who’s held the club back.

  15. Alexanderhenry

    Slade

    Ok, it’s as likely as Brad Pitt ditching his acting career, glamorous lifestyle and family to become a bin man in Croydon.

  16. Karl

    R. S. P. C

    Lol.. I was going with the media reports – that Alves was still on holiday and City did not wish to rush him back – was the reason for the delay of the announcement. I guess everyone was expecting him to be at City this summer.

    Assuming City purchased him and Walker, I wonder how Pep would manage that

  17. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Karl

    Still not overwhelmed by city’s signings ,

    Pep is on shitty wicket this season
    Shit or bust

  18. R.S.P.C.Arsenal

    Alex Henry

    Yer right

    He’s more likely to be a civil enforcement officer because the suit attracts the ladiessssss

  19. Ishola70

    AlexanderhenryJuly 11, 2017 21:46:56
    “Over the past ten years it’s been kroenke not wenger, who’s held the club back.”

    Who do you think was more involved with the decision to go down the path of making the club self-sustainable? Kroenke or Wenger?

    Remember Wenger was spitting feathers and railing against oil money clubs and financially doped clubs before Kroenke even became really significant.

    You can accuse Kroenke of leeching onto this self-sustainable model but to blame him entirely for it? Are you sure?

    People really like to forget the resentment fans had against Chelsea when Abramovich first came on the scene and many were happy to go along with the holier than thou self-sustainable blueprint.

  20. Marko

    You can accuse Kroenke of leeching onto this self-sustainable model but to blame him entirely for it? Are you sure?

    Yeah he’s critical of Kroenke for the club not spending the money over the years but fails to blame the manager for not spending money available to him when we’ve had money available. Sure there was austerity for a while but then there was the manager refusing to spend when we got through that period. I mean how else does a person explain the summer we only brought in Cech after the summers we brought in Ozil and Sanchez.

  21. Marko

    It’s also worth pointing out Wenger was and is a fan of the sustainable model and wasn’t one of the big reasons Kroenke got in was Wenger’s recommendation to sell to him.

  22. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    Giroud has never suited our system or way we play but his quality is undeniable. As I said, just because he’s not of the level of Suarez doesn’t relegate him to “bang average”.

    That’s the argument you’re making here and it’s pretty fucking ignorant.

    For a guy that rates Benteke you’ve some bollocks to slag Giroud as average. Then again you’re never very measured with your criticism, if it’s not exactly how you envisage it should be it’s shit in your eyes.

    It’s not difficult to say that Giroud is quality, but not the type of striker needed for this team. Instead you get your patter where he’s shit/a donkey blah blah. Doesn’t make your point valid or give your argument anything, just shows you up as someone who can’t appreciate the good in something even if you disagree with it.

    Same approach you take to Wenger frankly, and youre not alone on here with that embarrassing view.

  23. Ishola70

    Marko:
    “It’s also worth pointing out Wenger was and is a fan of the sustainable model”

    I’d like to see AH explaining away the rants Wenger made against oil money clubs and financially doped clubs. There were plenty of them and they are on record.

    Seems quite clear to me that Wenger with these rants was saying to the fans: Self-sustainable = good, righteous. If you were on the other side of this then you were bad, reckless, not righteous.

  24. Jacko

    ‘I’ve stayed here for a long time because of the values I hold close to me,’ he said. ‘One is to win trophies but more importantly it is to know who we are, and what is important to us in the game. It is that basis which wins football games and that’s what I will do until the end of my career.’

    The usual tripe from our glorious leader.

    The fact that so many people lap this bollocks up, will always be one of life’s great mysteries.

  25. Marko

    Yeah even now Ishola he’s talking about yeah he wants to sign players but it’s difficult to find players who improve the squad and shite about what’s important is values. It’s all nonsense and excuses really. The only value that matters for a football club is ambition and competition. That’s it. That’s why I’m still sceptical about the club turning a corner cause it’s still possible that we go into next season as is right now and still possible that we’ll have glaring squad issues not addressed and that won’t be on Kroenke that one.

  26. Bamford10

    Champagne

    Except that I said that Giroud is “average” only if you’re judging him as a first-choice striker, but “quality” if you are judging him as a second-choice striker.

    Everything else you said either misrepresented my argument or avoided it.

    Giroud was never good enough to be our first-choice CF, not if we wanted to contend for titles. Everyone here save you (and maybe one other sad case) knows this.

  27. Alexanderhenry

    Ishola

    ‘Who do you think was more involved with the decision to go down the path of making the club self-sustainable? Kroenke or Wenger?’

    Kroenke. As owner he’s the only man who can make that decision.
    As manager of the team wenger is not and never was in the position to make that decision.

    ‘You can accuse Kroenke of leeching onto this self-sustainable model but to blame him entirely for it? Are you sure?’

    The previous board members were involved in constructing the ‘self sustainable’ model, so yes, I suppose Kroenke’s not entirely to blame.
    However, Wenger was never a board member or significant shareholder. He manages the team under a financial system devised by the club’s owners, past and present.

    Where wenger is to blame, is in his obedience to Kroenke and co. and his defence of the club’s financial policy- which as manager he shouldn’t have to do anyway.

  28. Bamford10

    We adopted the self-sustaining model before Kroenke became majority owner. Please do not start again with your fucking nonsense.

  29. Ishola70

    AlexanderhenryJuly 11, 2017 23:34:12
    “Where wenger is to blame, is in his obedience to Kroenke and co. and his defence of the club’s financial policy- which as manager he shouldn’t have to do anyway.”

    That’s right he shouldn’t have to do it but he did it with gusto and vehemence railing against other clubs that he saw as being financially reckless and gaining advantage in a manner that he saw as distasteful.

    Wonder why. Anyone would think that he has strong beliefs in all this rather than a down trodden messenger.

  30. Bamford10

    Alexander

    Take a moment to review Wenger’s comments today from Australia and tell me: what does Wenger care most about — winning, or the ” values” he holds dear?
    ___

    “We want to win trophies, but you cannot live inside a club thinking you want to win the next trophy and, if you don’t win it, you have lost.

    The club has a stronger basis than that. On a personal level, I want to win every game. When we lose a game I’m absolutely mad and sad, but it is part of being a coach.

    To do well of course means to win the Premier League, hopefully to win the Champions League as well, but I think I have stayed at Arsenal for such a long time because for me a club is firstly about ­values, the values I hold dear.

    One is to win trophies, but more important is to know who we are, and what is important to us.

    I will always try to defend what I think is important in our sport, that means the values of our game. Football is a very popular sport now all over the world and there is a big responsibility.

    I think one of the ways to face up to the responsibility is to defend the values. That is important to me.”

    It is plainly obvious: just look at the number of times he stresses “values” versus the number of times he talks about winning.

    As I have been saying for a long time now: what matters most to Wenger is his principles, his “values,” and he values these far more than he does winning.

  31. Ishola70

    Bamford10:
    “We adopted the self-sustaining model before Kroenke became majority owner.”

    Key point that AH doesn’t want to seem to want to really address or acknowledge.

    Or if he does it is fleetingly as if it has no relevance,

    It’s completely relevant if we want to go down the road of blaming Kroenke for what path the club has been on and continues to be,

    No-one wants Kroenke at the club but it is not the done thing to put out blatant lies about somebody even self-serving leeches.

  32. Bamford10

    Next time Wenger mentions his beloved “values,” I would like a journalist to ask him to identify and describe some of these values he’s always waxing on about. It would be good to force the old man to come out and say exactly what “values” he is talking about.

  33. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    That’s not been argued, but to consider a player average because they’re not capable of being arsenals first choice striker is asinine. So can I take that as you believing every player who doesn’t start for a top 15 club in Europe is ‘average’? Seems odd.

    Giroud was a square peg in a round hole as arsenals CF, he’d have been more productive in a mourinho team. His quality is obvious though, his style and suitability to Arsenal was always a clash (stubborn Wenger).

    8th all time scorer for the French national side is average though? Not quite getting that I’m afraid, patently above average.

  34. Ishola70

    These values talked about Wenger’s complete Shangri-La is to win the league on a shoe string budget compared to his rivals and win every game 6-4. There are still big fans of Wenger who dream of winning the league this way.

    If winning the title fails then at least the moral high ground can be taken and also it is convenient to hide behind this when they are questioned about failing to win the big trophies for so long. They have it all worked out.

    It will be really interesting to see if Wenger carries on with his back three/five next season. I say this because he really doesn’t believe in it. He would be living a lie really if he carries on with it.

  35. Daz

    Bamford just cant admit when he is wrong, redemption for benteke getting a move to everton? Lol. Giroud has been the better player benteke is gash end of

  36. Elmo

    Wenger doesn’t have ‘values.’ He was banned for pushing an assistant referee when he didn’t get his way just a few months ago. He was happy for the team’s chances to go up in smoke while he manipulated his contract situation to ensure he maneuvered to make his sacking and replacement very difficult for the club. He took out a super-injunction to prevent the UK tabloids reporting on his infidelity that broke his marriage. He has openly justified the ticket prices at the Soulless Bowl as representing a fair price. He was happy for Arsenal to be one of the few PL clubs that tried to block the £30 ticket price cap for away fans. Why is he described as a ‘principled man’ for fighting the corner of his players in gaining them outrageous contracts, while at the same time he’s happy for the legacy support to be priced out of the stadium?

    As we all know by now, his ONLY motivation is self-preservation and saving face wherever possible, and he’s willing to sacrifice everything and anyone in order to achieve his goal.

  37. China

    Lol do you think he trotted out the same lines as his mrs walked out?

    ‘I believe yes, you should stay because of the mental strength we have shown to be married this long.’

  38. tonyd

    Wenger continues to be a loser!!!!!

    His mindset is of losing, not winning as you can see from his comments in Sydney:

    “Wenger, talking after touching down here in Australia at the start of a pre-season tour that also takes his men to China, said: “We want to win trophies, but you cannot live inside a club thinking you want to win the next trophy and, if you don’t win it, you have lost.”

    Yes Wenger if you don’t win the EPL trophy, You have lost!!!!!

    “To do well of course means to win the Premier League, hopefully to win the Champions League as well, but I think I have stayed at Arsenal for such a long time because for me a club is firstly about ­values, the values I hold dear.”

    Here we go again his fucking values again. The only value he should have is about winning the league – nothing else!! No point talking about the CL, you’re in the Europa Cup you absolute fool.

    “There are two ways to improve. First, we analyse what we did well and not so well and we improve on that. The second way is to bring some new players in.”

    How about TACTICS for every game Wenger, do you even know what they are? You need post match debriefings, but more important is to have a tactical plan for each game and drill it into the players.

    “But we have to prepare well and continue like we finished the end of last season. We won 10 of last 11 games and we want to continue like that and start in a very strong way.”

    By prepare well you mean not have your transfers completed ahead of pre season? Have no idea whether Sanches; our best player by a country mile is staying or leaving? Wenger is still as clueless as he was 12 years ago.

    Expect another excuse ridden season as we fail again in the EPL, and probably fail again to qualify for the CL..

    Wenger has his ready made excuses at pre season time, and is already setting out the losing mindset by his comments to his team and club.

    Deep in his psyche he just doesn’t believe he can win the EPL, and his negativity is a cancer spreading to his players as it has been for over a decade.

    Excerpts from John Cross – Mirror online

  39. Joe

    China

    You can hear him telling her. It’s ok dear that you don’t ever orgasm. It’s about my values is what matter.

  40. Sid

    Wenger’s aim for this season is only to finish in the top 4. If he manages that, then it will be a successful season in the eyes of Kroenke and the board.

  41. Azagunner

    ChinaJuly 11, 2017 13:55:09

    Your comment there had me spit beer out in laughter.

    Thank you for that, I now have a Russian stout on my jeans.

    Hahaha funny as.

  42. Alexanderhenry

    Ishola

    I’m not sure what ‘lies’ I’ve been spreading about kroenke.

    Anyway,

    The only stat that matters at the end of the day is that we were a lot more successful before he got involved.

  43. raptora

    The way that it looks:

    Chelsea – Rudiger (in), Bakayoko, one of Danilo and Alex Sandro, one of Aubameyang, Morata and Belotti.

    Manchester City – Ederson (in), Bernardo Silva (in), Mendy, Walker, a CB (van Dijk, Bonucci), possibly Alexis (which won’t make sense).

    Manchester United ‘s targets – Lindelof (in), Lukaku (in), Perisic and one of Dier, Matic and Bakayoko.

    Liverpool – Salah (in), Solanke (in), Naby Keita, van Dijk, the Ox, Aubameyang?!.

    Arsenal – Kolasinac (in), Lacazette (in), one of Lemar and Mahrez.

    Looks like we don’t need that much of a strengthening…

  44. Alexanderhenry

    Sid

    It’s worse than that. The big money comes from PL TV deals these.

    Therefore, it’s no longer necessary for arsenal to qualify for the CL

  45. Dissenter

    Sigurdsson scored 9 league goals with 13 assists – Swansea have placed a £50 million transfer fee on his head to “deter” suitors
    Alexis Sanchez scored 24 league goals with 10 league assists but we might not get what Swansea get for their best player because we wet the bed.
    Sigurdsson had 3 years on his contract while we allowed Alexis to go to the end.
    That’s another philosophy that has to change. We never learned from the Walcott situation where he was able to fleece us by going so close to the end.

  46. London gunner

    There has been a lot of revisionism being done on Giroud.

    He has had some shocking seasons at this club, remember that season where he missed sitter after sitter. Fucking up tap ins against big teams in important games. I think that’s when he registered the tongue out squint and smile I fucked up again look.

    Granted I’m present times he has improved but whenever given a sustained run in the team he reveals his averagness.

  47. Kc

    How appropriate that Arsenal are wearing black this season. Even Puma knows we’re in mourning. RIP Arsenal Football Club.

  48. Dissenter

    Dan Crowley is signing a permananet deal with Willelm Ii in the Eriedivisie. All our youth products are fleeing as far away as possible. They can’t thrive in the championship and the lower 5-8 teams in the premier league don’t want them.

    This and the Chris Willock exit to Benfica exemplifies the piteous state of our academy.
    I hated it when people praised Mertasqcker’s appointment because it showed how much we have fallen. We appointed a coaching novice who has to wait for one year to even start working. What happens to the players in the academy now.
    What does that tell the academy players?
    Run away as far as possible. We can’t even recruit proper players because they will steer clear of the rudderlsss place.

  49. Kc

    Don’t worry folks Arsene strengthened the Striker position by going out and buying his current starter’s back up for France. You can’t make up that type of ignorance.

  50. Rambo Ramsey

    “I hope Alexis stays but I don’t know what the status is to be perfectly honest,” Ozil told Sky Sports. “But I value him a lot as a player and he’s very well-suited to the game Arsenal play.

    “From a personal view I would really appreciate it if he stays. However, it’s the player’s decision after all and there’s not much more I can comment on that.

    “It would hit the team quite hard if he left because he’s a player who always delivers. It would be a setback to winning the title but, in the end, it’s the player’s decision.”
    ————————————-

    LOL. This from the guy who is yet to sign an extension himself

  51. Alexanderhenry

    Bamford

    Wenger is towing the party line and he’s wrong to do that..

    Arsenal’s ‘values’ are bullshit and are merely a ruse.
    It’s a way the club can get away with not spending what it could and should.

    Until kroenke leaves that isn’t going to change.

    Do you really think arsenal are going to win the PL or CL post wenger?

    Do you honestly believe that a top coach will take over arsenal ?

    Do you really think our owner is the right man for the job?

    Are you not concerned about the lamentable state of his other teams?

    An owner only has two roles to play and they are the two most important factors determining a club’s success.

    1) make as much money available as possible

    2) Appoint the right people.

    That’s it, they don’t have to do anything else and Kroenke has failed on both counts..

    He is the main issue at arsenal and always has been.

  52. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘This and the Chris Willock exit to Benfica exemplifies the piteous state of our academy.’

    Who the f cares?

    How many of Arsenal’s FA youth cup winning champions you think made it to the first team? Hint: Wilshere was the best player

  53. Emiratesstroller

    Dissenter

    Let’s be realistic very few youth players make the grade at clubs like Arsenal,
    Man City, Man Utd and Chelsea.

    If these players want to make a career in football then the logic is that they look elsewhere and at their current level.

    As far as I am concerned only two Academy players flew the nest in recent
    times who might have made the grade with us namely Gnabry and Ozyakup.

    Frankly I am delighted that Mertesacker is being offered a job in the Academy
    programme. That should be precisely the opportunity that intelligent and experienced ex footballers should be moving to when they retire.

  54. Champagne charlie

    Can you imagine the state of the fans on here if Arsenal had matched Lukakus bid and been pawned off (Chelsea), or rejected by Alves last minute (City)…

    Now Aubameyang is being pimped out (because he’s so good obviously).

  55. Marko

    Do you really think arsenal are going to win the PL or CL post wenger?

    We absolutely will.

    Do you honestly believe that a top coach will take over arsenal ?

    Define top coach? Either way absolutely considering our current coach hasn’t been a top coach for about 10 years.

    Do you really think our owner is the right man for the job?

    Ambition wise no but he’s not holding back on money anymore.

    Are you not concerned about the lamentable state of his other teams?

    Teams in American sports are not comparable in the slightest. You keep peddling the narrative and it’s stupid. With drafts and caps that exist in American sports its not the same. Honestly the Rams could get lucky one of these drafts and get a young elite QB who rarely gets injured and they’ll probably win a couple super bowls. That’s all it takes.

  56. Dissenter

    Rambo and Emirates
    You should care if you’re forward looking.
    The academy players might not be good enough for Arsenal or top clubs but they should be able to thrive in top championship clubs or clubs in the lower half of the premier league. Spuds sold two of their youth players to premier league teams.

    its another example of the decay that’s eating the club from inside.
    Appoint a rookie who can’t be bothered to retire and take on the job. What are the academy players supposed to think?

  57. Marko

    Can you imagine the state of the fans on here if Arsenal had matched Lukakus bid and been pawned off (Chelsea), or rejected by Alves last minute (City)…

    We don’t tend to go after players who have other suitors it tends to scare us off

    Now Aubameyang is being pimped out (because he’s so good obviously).

    He is so good but needs must and all that and the price you know. I’m sure that if he was available for 52 million we would have signed him. Unless you think we signed Lacazette cause we thought he’s better than Aubameyang? Oh god no come on

  58. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Kolasinac chose us over City, but good try…

    Lacazette is better than Aubameyang, the same way Welbeck is better that Giroud for Arsenal.

  59. qna

    Monaco owner:
    ——
    Asked if Mbappe will leave Monaco this summer, the monarch told L’Equipe: “I don’t think it will happen.

    “There are ongoing discussions, which suggest to me that he will stay at Monaco next season.

    “The discussions are regarding increasing his salary, but he and his father understand that it’s not in his interests to go to a big club, where he will not be a certain starter.”
    ——

    I see some positives in that. We can offer him a better salary than Monaco will offer him. And we are not a big club where he wont play.

    Welcome To Arsenal Kylian!!!!

  60. Marko

    Kolasinac chose us over City, but good try…

    Yes and Alves choose PSG over them as well and I’m sure that the wages had nothing to do with it. Obviously they weren’t willing to go that far for the player. If they end up getting Mendy you think they’ll be disappointed missing out on Kolasinac?

    Lacazette is better than Aubameyang, the same way Welbeck is better that Giroud for Arsenal.

    No he’s not he’s cheaper I’ll give you that much. It doesn’t matter if it’s Arsenal or whoever Auba is better. There’s no great way in which we play football that determines that Lacazette is a better fit than Auba. There’s not

  61. Emiratesstroller

    Dissenter

    Man City recruited Arteta as a coach last season and Man Utd recruited ex players like Giggs, Scholes and Butt.

    Butt is now head of their Academy so what is the difference with Arsenal recruiting such players to coach in our Academy.

    Mertesacker is a German International with 100+ caps and a former World Cup Winner. I would say that he is exactly the sort of person we should be
    looking to develop as a top coach.

  62. Marko

    The worry Mbappe probably has is moving to another club and country could personally disrupt his form and it might take him a while to settle even though I’d argue losing half your starting 11 and your pals would also disrupt your form. Make no mistake anyone willing to spend that much on him is going to play him till his feet fall off

  63. qna

    Charlie: “Lacazette is better than Aubameyang, the same way Welbeck is better that Giroud for Arsenal.”

    Whats this now? I don’t get it. Is your opinion that Welbeck is better than Giroud or not better?

    In any case, Welbeck scored 2 league goals last year. He has scored a total of 10 league goals for us in his Arsenal career. There is no comparison which involves Welbeck that can explain Lacazette vs Aubamayang.

  64. Rambo Ramsey

    More from Ozil:

    “It is definitely my preference to stay,” Ozil said at the launch of the club’s Puma-made third kit

    “It is such a great club and I have always said that I feel very good at Arsenal. Once everyone is back in London we will sit down and discuss about the future.

    “For now the most important thing is our pre-season and getting through the tour, training and getting fitness. When I’m back in London, we will sit down and discuss.”

  65. qna

    Marko. I agree. I wouldn’t recommend any player to come to Arsenal to further their career. But hopefully he wont realize that. :)

  66. Cesc Appeal

    Mbappe staying at Monaco does actually make sense if he has received promises the club will reinvest the funds they receive from losing talent to build a strong side again for next year.

    In a World Cup year he would actually have the chance to look even more impressive if he repeats or even improves on last year with Monaco having lost Silva, Bakayoko, Mendy, Fabinho and Lemar.

    If he manages that and has a decent World Cup you could be looking at a £200 Million player if football has not come to its senses in twelve months.

    A move to Madrid right now carries risks, of course so does staying at Monaco. Interesting to see what he does. What it must feel like to be Mbappe right now, the world at your feet.

  67. Marko

    Qna I think he’s trying to say because Welbeck is faster than Giroud that he’s a better fit which is fair enough even though Welbeck can’t score. But the comparison of Lacazette and Aubameyang to Welbeck and Giroud is dumb because both players are super fast and clinical just one’s better than the other and one’s cheaper than the other

  68. Cesc Appeal

    Rambo

    That is an interesting comment from Ozil. Suggests that, rather differently to Sanchez the club are not giving him the money he wants. Ozil clearly wants to stay but has not signed on, whereas the club have thrown money at Sanchez and he is not signing on.

    Fingers crossed if Ozil does sign on we do not give him some ridiculous wage like £280 000 a week or more. Not worth it at all.

  69. Rambo Ramsey

    Asked about his future at the launch of Arsenal’s third kit in Sydney on Wednesday, Giroud said: ‘Honestly, I don’t know at the moment but I’m still an Arsenal player so I try to be professional like I always have done and prepare well for next season.

    ‘Obviously there will be more competition, even more than last year, but it’s always nice for a striker to feel the pressure. I always deal with it.

    ‘I’ve been through some difficulties these last years but I always succeed to bounce back.

    ‘This one, I don’t know. This year I don’t know about my future so I can’t tell you more. I’m focused on pre-season.’

  70. Ishola70

    Cesc Appeal:
    “In a World Cup year he would actually have the chance to look even more impressive if he repeats or even improves on last year with Monaco having lost Silva, Bakayoko, Mendy, Fabinho and Lemar.”

    Lemar has left Monaco? Where did he go to? 😉

  71. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    And if Arsenal hadn’t got the player because we didn’t pay high enough wages I’m sure you’d have been ok with that ehh marko. Your dummy would’ve been straight out.

    You don’t watch German football if you think Lacazette and Aubameyang were a ‘like for like’ comparison. Lacazette is good with the ball at his feet and can work in small spaces, Aubameyang is like Theo in both respects. So Lacazette is a better match for Arsenal, by a mile.

  72. Marko

    A move to Madrid right now carries risks, of course so does staying at Monaco. Interesting to see what he does. What it must feel like to be Mbappe right now, the world at your feet.

    Exactly. He honestly would be stupid to join Madrid at this moment in time even though Zidane has shown that he is more than happy to play some of the younger players more than previous managers. The pressure though. It’s wishful thinking that we have a shot. Sure we’d guarantee football but there’s no guarantee that he’d improve here. And staying in Monaco is a big risk too. No way you can maintain the production he had last year selling Silva and Lemar and Mendy and others.

  73. Cesc Appeal

    Ishola

    Trying to force it into being! Haha.

    I think those players are more likely than not to go. Bakayoko already has one foot out of the door, Fabinho is in talks with PSG and others, Arsenal have entered three bids for Lemar and Wenger has declared our interest in him which is always telling and City seem likely to get Mendy at some point.

    Mbappe really has a chance to be the undisputed star of Monaco next season, in France, ahead of the World Cup where if he can shine he will then move to Madrid as a total superstar.

  74. Cesc Appeal

    Marko

    That is true.

    Massive decision for Mbappe this summer.

    If he goes to Madrid and takes Benzema’s place and hits the ground running you have a superstar on your hands flanked by Ronaldo and Bale. But, might sit on the bench, crack under the pressure, just not be ready for it etc.

    Monaco, could reinvest and assemble a smart team where he becomes the talisman. Equally, the team could stutter and struggle after being torn apart and he is unable to make the mark he did last year due to a lesser team behind him.

    Could move to a stepping stone club like Arsenal. Means entering the club with a weird attitude as you do not see it as your future, you do not necessarily think you can have top level success with them but that you may improve as a player and you want to escape a Monaco team being ravaged. But, could unsettle you, you could not take to the team, take to the league and you end up in the bin of ‘big promise, big flop’.

  75. Ishola70

    Wasn’t Aubameyang going to sign for PSG for 70m euros. That’s not terribly prohibitive really.

    Now The Sun and Daily Express newspapers are linking him to Chelsea lol

  76. Marko

    Aubameyang were a ‘like for like’ comparison. Lacazette is good with the ball at his feet and can work in small spaces, Aubameyang is like Theo in both respects. So Lacazette is a better match for Arsenal, by a mile.

    Auba is just as fast and is good with the ball at his feet and more clinical. But can I ask if Lacazette is so good with the ball at his feet and in tight spaces why compare him to Welbeck and not Giroud? Welbeck has an awful touch and can’t hold up play like Giroud (both deceptively bad imo). Look make no mistake about it the only reason Welbeck ever gets picked over Giroud is his pace and that’s it. And Auba is nothing like Walcott that’s a narrative people invented to justify not buying him.

  77. Ishola70

    Cesc Appeal:
    “Trying to force it into being! Haha.I think those players are more likely than not to go”

    Yeah would be a nice signing but at what stage does it become a complete embarrassment for Monaco losing so many key players in one summer. Sure they will all be gone from Monaco in time but in one summer?

    I can’t see Monaco allowing it really. As said it would be a complete embarrassment for them to lose these players in one period. I think even some of the players will be thinking of showing some loyalty to the club if it looks like it is going to be decimated.

  78. Marko

    Wasn’t Aubameyang going to sign for PSG for 70m euros. That’s not terribly prohibitive really.

    And then there was talk of Ronaldo becoming available and they still have Cavani. Look we do this thing sometimes on here where we dissect a player cause he hasn’t moved to an elite club yet or whatever. Make no mistake Aubameyang is an elite striker he’s just expensive as fuck. If he cost 50 million he’d be gone already. If Aguero or Benzema were a couple years older he’d be gone already. If Lewandowski forced a move somewhere he’d be gone already. Why United went for Lukaku over him is beyond me…oh the agent gets 12 million…

  79. Marko

    With Monaco it’s like that tread you just pulled a little and now can’t stop pulling. No way you can convince someone like Lemar or Mbappe to stay after selling Silva and Germain and any day now selling Mendy and Bakayoko. No way Fabinho stays either. Falcao will stay cause he’ll still feel like proving himself. Sidibe might stay if we don’t sell Bellerin and City get Walker otherwise someone will move for him too. And that’s basicallyall their stars. Awful summer if you support Monaco

  80. Marko

    Question marks over Lemar (are we willing to pay the price for him) and Mbappe (completely up to him and is likely to stay) but Bernardo Silva and Germain and Dirar have gone and Bakayoko and Mendy are practically gone if you believe sky sources and Mendy’s instagram. Fabinho is likely to go seeing what’s going on so definitely 4 from the starting 11 possibly 7

  81. Ishola70

    I think Lemar and Mbappe will stay for another season.

    Possibly one more as well of the players linked away.

  82. Bamford10

    Champagne

    Sorry, but none of that (re Giroud) is true either. He is a second-rate striker, not a first-rate one, and he has never been good enough to be a title-contending team’s first-choice CF. And no he wouldn’t be a good fit for Mourinho as Mourinho likes pace and athleticism. Giroud is nowhere near as good as a Drogba or Costa.

    Let’s move on, though. This is a moot point.

  83. Bamford10

    From what I’ve read, Mbappe is quite happy at Monaco (and they’re obviously happy with him). I think he’ll stay there until he feels ready for Madrid, which will probably be in another year or two.

  84. Champagne charlie

    Bamford
    Giroud won the league with Montpellier and Jose signed Zlatan (no pace). So wrong and wrong. I don’t expect you to say anything else regarding Giroud, you’ve spent an inordinate amount of time slating him and you’re not someone to ever give measured input anyway so pretty moot.

    Marko
    Aubameyang is shit with the ball at his feet, now you’re just making things up. I compared Lacazette to Aubameyang and said he was a much better player for Arsenal the same way Welbz is a better player than Giroud….STYLE. Aubameyang is very much like Theo, both physically reliant and neither possess the best technique with the ball. One is far more gifted, but stylistically and in terms of limitations they are strikingly similar.

  85. Marko

    One must also take into account with Giroud he’s basically been the only legit striker at the club for so long and we persisted with him for so long that his stats can seem better than they actually should be. His one saving grace is the lack of injuries but he hardly puts himself about on the pitch so that’s understandable. He’s a John Carew type for me not awful but shouldn’t be a starter if you want to compete either.

  86. TR7

    A move to Arsenal would not be a risky move for Mbappe. He will feel at home due to our large French contingent. Wenger is a very protective manager as well in the sense he does not put much pressure on his players and always defends them in public. He will definitely earn more here and most certainly be a regular starter for us. Our style is not a hindrance for him either.

  87. Marko

    I compared Lacazette to Aubameyang and said he was a much better player for Arsenal the same way Welbz is a better player than Giroud….STYLE.

    Yeah what style does Welbeck have comparable to Lacazette but not Auba? This should be good considering that Welbeck is the only football player I’ve ever seen tackle himself and get a knee injury in the process.

    Also Auba is nothing like Walcott. Lacazette is more similar in build to Theo. Auba is built like a brick shithouse. But similar stylistically? You’re talking bollox now.

  88. Relieable Sauce

    TR7

    He can learn Spanish as well while he is here.
    Cazorla is going to have plenty of time to spare.

  89. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Christ you’re slow… Lacazette suits Arsenal better than Aubameyang the same way Welbz suits us better than Giroud. The comparison obviously states Lacazette is a better fit than Aubameyang the same way Welbz is than Giroud. How are you not getting that?

    “Also Auba is nothing like Walcott. Lacazette is more similar in build to Theo. Auba is built like a brick shithouse. But similar stylistically? You’re talking bollox no”

    How have you confused playing style for physical stature you muppet? Lacazette is similar height to Theo so they play them same do they? Haha

    Aubameyang and Theo play the same. Both not very technical and rely on speed and physical attributes. How are you seriously not understanding what’s being said…..

  90. Daz

    “Auba is just as fast and is good with the ball at his feet and more clinical.”

    Is he more clinical? I thought i read laca had the best conversion rate in europe? For instance In the league last season auba had 3.6 shots per goal laca had 2.8 shots per goal

  91. seg

    If Giroud is not good enough for arsenal, because of his style, lack of pace, expectations(replacing rvp) etc would that not make him an average striker, for Arsenal? The key should be for Arsenal.

  92. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    To play the game you just played with Giroud….

    Aubameyang plays for Dortmund so gets more chances than Lacazette who played for Lyon. As Diaz points out, Lacazette is a more clinical finisher.

  93. Champagne charlie

    Seg

    No, it makes him a good striker that doesn’t suit Arsenal. The fact he doesn’t suit us doesn’t diminish his ability in any way, only in the eyes of childish Arsenal fans.

    Kante by contrast would be average in the Barcelona team by that metric. He’s not average, he just doesn’t suit their game.

  94. Marko

    Christ you’re slow… Lacazette suits Arsenal better than Aubameyang the same way Welbz suits us better than Giroud. The comparison obviously states Lacazette is a better fit than Aubameyang the same way Welbz is than Giroud. How are you not getting that?

    Hey cunt you literally keep saying the same thing without any argument or reasoning. How is Lacazette a better fit than Auba comparable to Welbeck a better fit than Giroud? Explain you massive dickhead. And what fucking physical attributes does Theo rely upon that Auba does?

    Look say what you like but you’re the kind of mindless lemming that if we signed Auba that you’d be listing off all the things wrong with Lacazette and telling us how he’s not suited to us. I don’t why I bother

  95. Daz

    How is that Auba more clinical with a lower conversion rate?

    He scored more goals

    He had more chances to score those goals, being more clinical would suggest fewer chances

  96. Marko

    Aubameyang plays for Dortmund so gets more chances than Lacazette who played for Lyon.

    Yeah that’s not really an argument for anything. I could just as easily say Lacazette plays for Lyon and Auba plays for Dortmund and leave it at that. Or how about that Auba plays in a stronger league. I don’t care for conversion stats there’s probably a goal per minutes ratio stat that has Giroud better than the both of them and that doesn’t mean bollox either

  97. seg

    Now, I’m afraid wenger is too old, too stubborn and has lost his judgement.
    Also, his relationship with fans and the press has deteriorated to the point where it’s best for everyone that he leaves.” Alex Henry, do you ever post this view about wenger on untold? They can’t be enamored with you over there if you do.

  98. Marko

    Kante by contrast would be average in the Barcelona team by that metric. He’s not average, he just doesn’t suit their game

    Even though he can tackle and pass.

    Just answer the style question so we can move on

  99. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Or you can learn to read…

    “You don’t watch German football if you think Lacazette and Aubameyang were a ‘like for like’ comparison. Lacazette is good with the ball at his feet and can work in small spaces. So Lacazette is a better match for Arsenal, by a mile.”

    Hmm what physical attributes do Theo and Aubameyang share that they rely on?….that is a toughy. I’m gonna go with speed, ever watched a game of football?

    Oh there you go, classic Marko making up future scenarios instead of addressing the reality. I would be dissecting Lacazette would I? Be a bit weird as I stated when atletico had their ban that he should be number one for us, that I judged him wrongly last summer and he’s been impressive this season when I watched him.

  100. Redtruth

    Alexanderhenry
    “The only stat that matters at the end of the day is that we were a lot more successful before he got involved.”

    Not in Europe

  101. Champagne charlie

    Marko

    Oh dear, you think Kante could get into barcelonas team…..

    He absolutely cannot pass to the level required to play for them. Showing yourself up a lot today pal, it’s amusing.

  102. Doublethink

    Lacazette averages more passes per game with a higher completion, more key passes per game, more dribbles per game, more through balls per game and even more tackles. As well as the higher conversion rate which you don’t care for.

  103. Redtruth

    Alexanderhenry
    “The only stat that matters at the end of the day is that we were a lot more successful before he got involved.”

    So blame lies with Kroenke and not Stadium move, Abramovich or Wenger…lol

  104. Cesc Appeal

    Arsenal are apparently getting closer to a deal for Lemar.

    If I had to guess I would say initial fee of £45 Million with the potential to rise to £53 Million.

    Would be basically identical to the Lacazette deal and would represent two good pieces of business.

    Would just be missing a CM and I would say that is a good summer.

  105. Marko

    Hmm what physical attributes do Theo and Aubameyang share that they rely on?….that is a toughy. I’m gonna go with speed, ever watched a game of football?

    Lacazette relies on his speed just as much if not more because that’s right like Theo he’s a short arse. How else is Auba similar to Walcott but Lacazette isn’t? This is fun. You’re basically saying Lacazette is better than Auba in our system cause he’s maybe marginally better technically but then make a comparison with Welbeck who’s not in the least bit good technically speaking. It’s it’s genius

  106. Alexanderhenry

    Marko

    I’m surprised that you think arsenal ‘absolutely will’ win the PL or CL when wenger leaves. I’m not sure where your optimism comes from and I absolutely do not share it.
    I respect your opinion though

    I think things will get worse post wenger and I think arsenal will never win major honours as long as kroenke’s in charge.
    Time will tell.

    Regarding kroenke’s other teams; it’s worth having a look at just how bad they are.
    It’s sobering stuff.

  107. Marko

    Lacazette averages more passes per game with a higher completion, more key passes per game, more dribbles per game, more through balls per game and even more tackles.

    Sounds like we should play him in Ozil’s position. Argument isn’t whether or not he’s a good player but whether he’s better than Auba and comparable to Welbeck in our style or something