Alexis Sanchez on the Wenger creep: Good news?

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The aftermath of the fan boycott has been largely positive. The whole objective was for the fans to make a united statement, and whatever the reason was that you didn’t turn up, it contributed to making a global impact against the tenure of Arsene Wenger.

‘Nah mate, I weren’t protesting, I just didn’t show up’

Really can’t feel for you there, and with an attitude like that, I’m glad your absence has been rolled up into something that was geared towards shaking the club into pushing for a better future… otherwise, you just look like a really average fan who doesn’t care about the club. If you’re missing games for anything other than difficulties in getting there, you’re making a protest at the club, that, or you don’t deserve a ticket.

SHAME SHAME SHAME

Anyway, I think we’ve seen the way forward with making a statement against the club. A few people were saying that a march is more impactful, I disagree. Those things require just one person to call the manager a c-bomb and it’s over in the eyes of the media who love Wenger. For me, not turning up is silent, horrible to look at, and it leaves the manager exposed against a backdrop of empty seats. That matters, because at the heart of it, it’s his job to have all eyes on the club. That brings in fans, sponsorship and new opportunities. If people don’t want to watch in the ground, it says to marketing people that fans don’t want to watch on TV… that’s not good for Stan K.

Who has, as usual, been painfully silent. The fact fans are fighting to give the CEO leverage to tapper Wenger’s ridiculous power structure tells you all you need to know about how weak the owner is. He literally doesn’t care about sport. He’s the opposite of an asset stripper. He comes into clubs, works out the minimum needed to sustain life, and goes for it. That said, fans can’t moan too hard. Sure, we need an owner with more ambition, or at the very least, an owner who will empower Ivan to make the best decisions… because look, I can assure you our CEO will do great things in the aftermath of Wenger. But, back to Stan. If you’d said 10 years ago, we’d have an owner who’d leave the sporting stuff to the manager and never

That said, fans can’t moan too hard. Sure, we need an owner with more ambition, or at the very least, an owner who will empower Ivan to make the best decisions… because look, I can assure you our CEO will do great things in the aftermath of Wenger. But, back to Stan. If you’d said 10 years ago, we’d have an owner who’d leave the sporting stuff to the manager and never interfere. We’d all be applauding. Now the game is more competitive, we’re horrified. We just need a balance, that’d start with an owner who wanted to win. Such a shame Usmanov is likely going to jump ship and turn Everton into the new Manchester City. Even more reason for Stan to buck his fu*king ideas up. We are under threat…

As we head into next season, we’re coming to that part of the season where we start reminiscing about how good loan players are. The hot topic at the moment is the keeping position. Petr Cech, despite a strong finish to the season, has looked poor. David Ospina is not good enough by a margin. So what is on the table now? Szczęsny. That’s who.

Please lord don’t let him wander back to the club. Roma fans aren’t enamoured with him. He looks the same keeper he always has for me. Arrogant, prone to switching off, and simply not good enough for Arsenal. We need to be looking at someone who can man the sticks for the next ten years. That’s not Pickford for me, I’m unsure how anyone can look at a keeper who has conceded 64 goals this season and say they fancy him. He made some good saves the other night, he also made a lot of bad decisions. We need a keeper capable of playing at the highest level.

One player at the top of his game, Alexis Sanchez, had some strong words about the manager.

“I think that a coach that gave this club a stadium, trophies and who has been there 21 years should have a statue done to remember him forever.”

“He is a manager that looks after the players — he develops them and makes them mature. I’m happy here with the players, the club and with life in general.”

Very interesting comment. Like, the sort of disturbing view that only someone with something to gain would say, especially considering the situation and his kind of shitty attitude behind the scenes. When asked about his future, he had this to say…

“It doesn’t depend on me but on what the club wants or doesn’t want,”

Hmmm… sounds like he’s put a big number on the table. Match that, and he’ll hang around. He sure as hell won’t get £300k a week at Bayern or Juventus. Might get trophies, but we know these South Americans are all about that $$$. I was told he has a mega number in from China as well. So we’ll see, but look, there’s no way Wenger has the pull to do anything with elite strikers in Europe, so we might have to pull a David Moyes / Rooney move and just go for it.

I think Sanchez is incredible. Concerned about the stories he’s a pain in ass behind the scenes though. Is he staying at Arsenal because if the money is right, the power and lack of discipline appeals. The team will always be built around him. He’ll never be told what to do. He’ll play every week. Would he get that at an elite club? Unlikely.

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337 Responses to “Alexis Sanchez on the Wenger creep: Good news?”

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  1. TitsMcGee

    Arsenal is a shiite show head to toe at the moment. We’re more like Pret A Manger than a football club at the moment.

  2. Micheal

    or at the very least, an owner who will empower Ivan to make the best decisions… because look, I can assure you our CEO will do great things in the aftermath of Wenger.
    ======
    Pedro, I am a genuine admirer of your commitment to the blog and enjoy your take on events. But I am struggling with the Gazidis love-in.
    Unless I am missing something, the evidence of the past few years is that he is a patsy for the slippery American jerk Kroenke. Commercially has been under-whelming and tactically he has allowed Wenger to rule the oost.
    I sincerely hope I am wrong because my interest is solely in the interests of the club. Or maybe you know something we don’t.
    Persuade me.

  3. Pedro

    Michael, I am an independent blogger. I don’t aspire to work for Arsenal or in journalism. So when I go to bat for something, trust that I am well informed and it’s the content is not based on hope.

    This blog has always had a narrative that sails very close to the truth if you read between the lines. Read between the lines.

  4. Micheal

    Pedro:
    This blog has always had a narrative that sails very close to the truth if you read between the lines. Read between the lines.
    ==========
    Trust me, I’m a journalist ! :-)

  5. alexanderhenry

    Pedro

    Regarding Gazidis, you’re giving us the old ‘I’ve got an inside track’ argument.

    Maybe you do, maybe you don’t, or maybe you think you do but you don’t.

    What is crystal clear about arsenal fc, is it’s lack of clarity, and I’m afraid the rare, opaque and often contradictory statements from Gazidis have only added to the confusion.
    The man is like a one man smoke machine. You know like the ones you used to get at raves.

    No one knows what’s going on and I suspect the club itself doesn’t really know what’s going on.

    It’s a rudderless ship at the moment and as usual, anything that does happen is shrouded in secrecy.

    You’d get more joy trying to find Lord Lucan, than get any facts out of arsenal.

  6. PhD07

    RedtruthMay 18, 2017 15:30:06
    I’d say all of Wenger’s signings in the last 5 years bar Sanchez have been flops.
    ————————-

    Even your favourite player Ospina?

    PS
    Tied yourself up in knots -Redtruth.. :-)

  7. alexanderhenry

    Let’s be honest it’s infuriating.

    You’ve got Gazidis who rarely communicates at all suddenly making a cryptic statement about being a ‘catalyst for change’.
    What change Ivan?
    Are you the catalyst?

    Kroenke says nothing.

    Josh Kroenke is on the BOD but is actually running the Denver Nuggets who are a different team playing a different sport in a different country, so exactly what he’s supposed to be doing at arsenal I have no idea.

    Sir chips, ‘doesn’t give interviews’ and seems to show the utmost disdain towards any of the lower orders even daring to ask him a question.
    He’s the chairman for fucks sake.

    Dick Law is resigning. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is a mystery as no one really knows who he is and exactly what he did.

    Then there’s Lord Harris of Peckham , the carpet salesman and Ken Friar- a rather murky figure who’s been around for years.
    I really doubt either of these two have any real say or influence at arsenal at all.

    That leaves wenger. As usual he’s been left to deal with about 90% of the speculation and uncertainty, adding to it himself by refusing to say whether he’s

    signed a new deal
    not signed a new deal
    has been offered a new deal
    will be offered a new deal
    was offered a new deal only for it to be withdrawn.

    How long can this go on for?

  8. Bamford10

    “Arsene, what would you do if I gave you £100m for signings?”

    Arsene: “Give it back to you.”

    Wenger apologist: “It is absurd to suggest that Wenger wouldn’t spend the money available to him.”

  9. Bamford10

    Champagne

    If spent intelligently, the sums I cited above (90m, 90m, 50m, 50m) were ample to build a side that could compete. Other clubs have competed with less. Plus Wenger could’ve spent another 100m.

    He chose not to.

    He spent poorly when he did spend.

    He is garbage tactically.

    He is garbage at team selection.

    He signed Sanogo and suggested he deserved as much talk as any 50m player.

    He played Niklas Bendtner wide against Milan in the CL.

    He is fucking garbage.

  10. NT

    Pedro and all, I hope you are not reading too much into Sanchez’s statement in defence of Wenger. I smell Wenger’s survival tactic in that statement! Sanchez joined Arsenal in 2014 following the World Cup in Brazil and also following heavy pressure on Wenger to bring in some quality players. He knows very little about how we got the stadium. I am dashing out of office, but I imagine he’s expressing what the manager told the players.

  11. BergkampLegend

    “We’ll be doing an FA Cup special next week. We’ll be asking for some help as well.”

    For sure, we’re gonna need some help to win this final…

  12. Redtruth

    WENGER: WE DON’T SIGN SUPERSTARS, WE MAKE THEM

    DailyMail 19:38, 01 Sep 2007,

    Arsene Wenger has defended his tight grip on the Arsenal purse strings by declaring: “We don’t sign superstars, we make them”.

    If Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov is successful during the looming power struggle at the Emirates, Wenger could be armed with the spending power to rival even Chelsea.

    But the Frenchman insists that whoever triumphs in the boardroom, he will continue pursuing his policy of signing promising talent and turning them into big names.

    Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira, Nicolas Anelka and latterly Cesc Fabregas are the pick of the players who arrived in north London as relative unknowns before developing into world-class players under the Arsenal boss.

    And as Wenger is adamant that recruiting established stars does not represent value for money, he will continue to prize potential over experience.

    “I’m not scared to spend big money. If there is a player that I feel we need then of course I will buy him,” he said. “But at Arsenal we make the superstars.

    If you find a special player then fine but I have not seen a number of what you might call world-class players available. “Maybe some have a world-class price, but they are not all world-class players.

    If you sit down and give me £30million to buy one, could we find one? “For £30million I will be told ‘sorry he is not available and you can not have him for that price’. “Chelsea maybe tried to sign Ronaldinho and they have more money than anyone in the world, but he has not joined them.

    “For me, for £60million a guy must take the ball at the kick-off and score every time he touches the ball.

    “The highest we have ever bid for a player was £15milllion for Antonio Reyes. We have never bid higher because the quality hasn’t been there.

    “I will only pay what I think a player is worth and there are not many world-class players better than we already have.

    “I don’t know why everybody wants us to buy. He added: “I’m surprised that people think I have no money to spend.

    We were maybe a little bit short for a brief period but not now. “We are not short of money and our results will come out soon and you will see.”

    Wenger believes his approach to squad building requires greater skill than buying established players, but is not concerned that his rivals in the Barclays Premier League will try to muscle in on his territory.

    As prospective teenage signings know they will be given the opportunity to flourish at Arsenal, Wenger is confident the Emirates Stadium will always be their preferred destination.

    “It’s harder trick to pull off buying younger players,” he said.“But I am not that worried about the competition because players always go where they think they get a chance and not many clubs have the patience to give them that chance.

    “They will make them wait until they think they are good enough. “Because we start them early, they mature earlier and people integrated into our training sessions know exactly what they have to do.”

  13. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    Would rather not, you’re in one of your insufferable moods and you’re a chore at the best of times.

  14. Paddy got bored

    Can’t believe all this Gazides rubbish. As Michael said ” he’s a pasty for the yank” you can’t sit there trousering millions then suddenly become the saviour of the fans..
    Also how the fuck us a manager allowed to call the shots at a football club?? He’s a fucking employee if gazides really had a pair he would of fired him years ago.. The truth is the board all to a man are desperate for him to stay as they can stay invisible in the background as Wenger does it all for them as he can’t keep his mouth shut..
    They wouldn’t know where to start if he left, I doubt if any of the board could even name 3 other managers let alone shortlist them
    EIE

  15. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    No, meaning exactly what I say. You’re insufferable and I’m not going to spend the day snapping back at your “apologist” bollocks.

    You think you’re right, as ever. Carry on

  16. Alexanderhenry

    Paddy

    Well said.

    Wenger aside, we have a BOD including an owner, the son of that owner, a CEO, a chairman, a ‘chief negotiator’ who’s leaving and a couple of 80 year olds.

    Out of this rather uninspiring bunch, surely someone can take charge.

    Get rid of wenger or don’t get rid of wenger.

    Do something for fucks sake

  17. gonsterous

    how about another protest this weekend, ay ? c’mon, you guys can catch the game on the telly…

  18. Carts

    CC (and TR7)

    When we sold Cesc and Nasri et al – raising £66m – Wenger decided he was not going to replace the quality lost, but instead focus on mediocre player. The ones I listed.

    NOW, if Wenger raised £66m and spent £55m – can we agree that was purely his decision? For the sake of common sense, let’s say yes.

    NOW, are you saying that who we signed was the best we could do, cos I don’t. If your answer is yes, then you along with Wenger didn’t consider us big enough to sign established players.

    Look at TR7’s list. Those players, at the time, weren’t outside our reach. Also, you will have to refer back to the summer of 2011 as my memory doesn’t serve me well as to what player, better than who we eventually signed, were available.

  19. Bamford10

    Re transfer spending, Wenger spent:
    £93m in 2016-17
    £96m in 2014-15
    £52m in 2012-13
    £53m in 2011-12
    and £43m on Mesut Ozil

    These are not paltry sums, and he could’ve spent another £90-100m at any point there.

  20. Bamford10

    Our overall wage bill is near Chelsea’s and twice that of Spurs’. Yet look at the squad, look at our points total. That is the problem.

  21. Champagne charlie

    Carts

    Arsenal bought Arteta, Cabaye wasn’t better. Gervinho or Hazard was a 13 million difference that we financially couldn’t justify, or are you going to tell me Wenger just preferred Gervinho?

    You’re playing hindsight transfers to exacerbate criticism of Wenger, as per. Go back to last summer for me, how would you have spent the 92 million?

  22. Champagne charlie

    You’re such a narcissist Bamford, you posted all those comments on Pedro last post. They were argued and discussed but you’ve rehashed them to again get your view front and centre.

    THAT’S why you’re insufferable.

  23. Bamford10

    GoonerDave

    In the summer of 2015, Wenger signed Cech for £10m and no one else. Not a single field player. Arsenal were the only club in the five major European leagues not to sign a field player.

    This despite needing quality players and having some 150-200m in the bank.

    Are you telling us that Kroenke only gave Wenger £10m to spend? Can you explain why, despite a relatively constant cash balance, he would’ve given Wenger so little to spend in 2015 yet give Wenger some £90m the prior year and £90m the next?

    Further, in January 2014, we needed midfield reinforcements badly. Wenger decided to sign an injured Kim Kallstrom on loan, knowing full well that he was injured.

    Are you telling us that Wenger did this because he had been given no more money to spend?

    No, that’s ridiculous.

    Wenger did this because he dislikes spending, because he is a frugal, old world French economist, because he wanted to prove that he could compete without adopting the world’s ways.

    Everyone who has been paying attention over the past ten years knows this.

  24. Bamford10

    Nothing to do with narcissism, dipshit. I just think they’re important arguments which the late readers might otherwise miss.

    You keep doing your thing, though.

  25. Champagne charlie

    Everything to do with narcissism. You floss the newest post with your day old comments because you can’t stand he bought some folk missed them.

    Your need to be front and centre time and again is embarrassing. Then you revert to type calling people dipshit and the rest who call you on it.

    Not like everyone’s called you an arrogant cunt at one point or another…

  26. Champagne charlie

    Bamford

    Your boring condescension aside, think it’s pretty obvious I made an observation.

    In 2011 Arsenal didn’t buy Hazard for 30 mil because they couldn’t afford him, they went for a guy for 11 mil. But that’s me “rationalising” years later when their difference in quality is so evident. You’re a joke

  27. Sky

    Summer departures

    Walcot 20m
    Giroud. 20m
    Coquelin. 15m
    Gibbs 15m
    Lucas Perez 10m
    Jenkinson 10m
    Elneny 10m
    Gabriel 10m
    Szczesny 8m
    Ospina 5m

    Total = £123m

    Incoming players
    Mbappe 70m
    Van Dijk. 40m
    Kovacic 30m
    Lucas Moura 25m

    Total = £165m

    Total spent on transfers = £42m

    Keep Sanchez and Ozil. Our line up will be made of these core: Alexis, Mbappe, L.Moura, Ozil, Xhaka, kovacic, Van dijk, kolscieny, Mustafi.

    There may be better players to bring in than what I listed, my point is that, with clearing out of the deadwood and players that have been in the potential zone for much of their Arsenal career, we can raise a significant amount of money to facilitate our summer transfers.

  28. Redtruth

    Who cares for transfers when the priority is squeezing Wenger out the club

    Wenger should take a pay cut and stop rewarding players for underachieving

  29. Sky

    Redtruth

    The sad truth which has to be accepted is that Wenger has the board by the balls, his actions can’t be questioned by anyone in the club. Hence, he is not leaving. I can only hope to watch some quality players in Arsenal’s jersey next seaso. May be quality, intelligent players can make up for the tactical inefficiencies from Wenger.

  30. Troy McClure

    Kaspar Schmeical should be the clubs next Keeper. Great shot stopper, beefy lad who can knock people around on corners and free kicks, leads the defensive shape, and most importantly – kicks it far.

    About Sanchez and his attitude – who gives a shit if he pouts off the field and calls out his teammates when they are crap? He is by far the best and most reliable player, produces and he holds his teammates to a high standard. Wenger has established a soft, consequence free culture, so our players are not used to being called out. But this happens at every other team, and in any high performing company for that matter. And Thierry Henry was even worse in this regard.

  31. Whoknows

    Sky

    You cant be serious, no one would pay close to 15 mil for Gibbs or 10 mil for Jenkinon.

    Also you are leaving us with one senior goalkeeper and by getting rid of both jenkinson and Gabriel we have no RB option at all below bellerin.

    Also, why would Mbappe come to us (and he will be at least £85 mil), why would moura come to us?

  32. Marko

    Gervinho or Hazard was a 13 million difference that we financially couldn’t justify.

    Are you for real?

    Go back to last summer for me, how would you have spent the 92 million?

    Well a ball winning DM like Kante over whatever Xhaka is for one. Ousmane Dembele went for a paltry sum in the grand scheme of things. But I suppose we couldn’t justify his signing financially either.

    Yep not a apologist… never

  33. Marko

    Who cares for transfers when the priority is squeezing Wenger out the clubWenger should take a pay cut and stop rewarding players for underachieving

    Are we getting rid of him or asking him to take a pay cut? Make up your mind Red

  34. Alexanderhenry

    Sky

    Wenger has not ‘got the board by the ball’s. ‘
    He is an employee.
    The BOD could fire him tomorrow if they wanted to.
    If they want him gone they don’t have to fire him anyway, just not offer him a new contract.

  35. Redtruth

    The board have backed Wenger for years as has Alexanderhry so nor sure what his beef is..

    As for lack of funds Wenger should up his game to make up the difference..

  36. Follow the money

    All the evidence regarding spending indicates that if all the teams in the EPL had equal amounts to spend on transfers and wages Wenger would be relegated. If he was a good manager he would have won 5-6 titles in the early years when our only competition was Man UTD. As soon as more teams began spending (it’s a myth we haven’t had money, look at total outlay, transfers and wages) our record vs the top six got worse. That’s a good gauge of a manager, how he does vs the teams with resources close to his and there’s not been a top six manager with a worse record vs his peers than Wenger.

  37. Marko

    Sky have on their site Sanogo and Cazorla out of contract this summer. Good riddance Yaya. Sad end for Santi but if he’s not back until October it absolutely makes no sense to give him a new deal. Unless of course your Arsenal football club under Wenger and you love a good injured player on the books not contributing

  38. SpanishDave

    Sad times for Arsenal.
    We have the worst owner who does not care for football.
    A manager who is living off his early success and won’t go.
    Terrible period for the true supporters.
    Using our famous club totally not interested what our name means n the history of football.
    Selling to a American owner was the most greedy classless thing to have ever happened to our club.
    Shame on them we will never get rid of Stan and his clan. We are just an asset.
    Arsenal are finished as a football club, winning is not important anymore.
    A good manager would fight to keep out heritage alive.
    Wenger is a turd like the rest of them

  39. S Asoa

    And
    what says you if they are the same thing as the plane Sir Chips hired for his Wenger-in banner ?
    the profuse verbal diarrhoea of exactly the same colour day in, day out makes one wonder
    Redtruth

  40. Sky

    Whoknows

    Jenkinson and Gibbs are English internationals and they come at a premium in today’s market. Crystal place offered 10m for Jekinson in the winter but the deal fell through because he did not agree on personal terms. Gibbs is a 27 years old English international, he can certainly fetch us 15m.

    Mustafi plays right back for Germany and he can always fill in for Bellerin.

    Regarding selling Ospina and Scezney, it shouldn’t be too difficult to bring in a back up goal keeper for Peter Cech.

    I don’t think Man U is a big pull for Mbappe, with how Martial is not peaking under Mourinho. Going to Madrid is not the best move for his career right now. 70m should buy Mbappe. Belloti is also a good option.

  41. Dissenter

    AlexanderH
    Oh Just stop talking already
    You’re making Redtruth look like the sage of Legrove.

  42. Moz

    Champagne Charlie,

    What is your opinion then?
    Is Wenger not the current issue?
    Has he done as well as he could with regards to transfers/salaries/contracts?

    I am just curious as to what your thoughts are, when reading your comments it’s clear that you disagree with a lot of people but it’s not clear what your thoughts are

  43. sidtsw

    Szczesny made big progress in serie A. He is differnent now. Why would we spend big money on gk when we already have two decent. We have bigger problems than that.

  44. Moz

    With regards to this summer and squad building I would only keep:

    Sanchez ( if possible obviously)
    Koscielny
    Bellerin
    Iwobi
    Welbeck
    Mustafi

    All the rest can be sold for reasonable fees IMO.

    We should go all out for Mbappe, whatever it takes.
    Also would try to go for Martial if united sign another forward.
    I just think we should build a young, fast hungry squad sprinkled with experience.

    All this would obviously be pointless if Wenger remains in charge.

    Jardim would be my choice for next manager.

  45. Carts

    CC

    Stop fooling yourself, ffs. This isn’t hindsight. This is obvious that the near-dozen signings Wenger made were a mixture of panic buys and thinking he’d pulled a smart one.

    How would I have spent £92m?

    Kante – c£30m
    Lacazette – £35m
    Manolas – £35m-

  46. izzo

    Kane on 26 EPL goals. That seals it then for top scorer then. Everyone can stop mentioning Sanchez for awards.

  47. Wallace

    I agree with Champagne Charlie. you don’t buy Gervinho if you can afford Hazard. if you’re buying Gervinho it’s because you can’t afford Hazard.

  48. izzo

    We bought Gervinho because Wenger is a clueless moron. Why is player acquisitions being discussed? Anyone he buys will be rendered useless over a season. Better to start talking about future player recruitment from a new manager and not the clown currently in charge.

  49. seg

    Wenger signed the Kim with a broken back, or you saying he couldn’t afford any other player when he signed Sylvester from man u?

  50. champagne charlie

    Carts
    Well Kante rejected us for Chelsea, Lyon turned down 40mil, and Roma turned down 35mil. So any other fantasies you care to provide in hindsight?

    Steve
    “We could’ve afforded hazard” – uhm hows that? we spent 60mil on 5 first team players. You think that’s the behaviour of a club that could spunk 30mil on a 21 year old from Lille? You’d be the very same guy that if we’d have bought hazard would say “we needed a fucking CB and DM”. That’s where operating a budget just doesn’t enter your thinking. Yes, we had 30mil for hazard…but we also had about 5 positions to buy for.

  51. SUGA3

    Fucking hell Pedro, Szczesny has got more clean sheets that Buffon. I mean, he did regress under Wenger (as did many players) and got his head fucked with £100K contract. But he IS a good goalkeeper. Just needs good coaching and a manager, not a stooge that Wenger is.

    I mean, really? Find me a better GK under £15M. Go on, I’ll wait.

  52. Moz

    Who said we could not afford Hazard?

    The summer of 2012 we brought in:

    Cazorla 16.500.000£ 70k per week
    Giroud 12.000.000£ 60k per week
    Podolski 11.900.000£ 107k per week
    Total. 40.400.000£ 237k per week

    Hazard 32.000.000£ 170k per week

    So saying we could not afford Hazard is not reality now and was not reality in 2012.

    I get the fact that we bought three players and needed to fill the Van Persie shaped void in our squad, but I am confident that if Wenger wanted to he could have bought Giroud and Hazard. If not he could have gone for a young promising forward or older experienced forward.

    In my opinion Wenger had dug himself a big hole by being the anti Chelsea therefore would look foolish for all of the sudden splashing out massive (at the time) fees for a single player.
    I firmly believe we have missed out on lots of talented players due to Wenger putting his self imposed principles ahead of what’s actually best for the club.

    For anyone in doubt about who is in charge of all things transfer/contract related at AFC, this is wengers most recent comment regarding sporting directors and himself:

    “I’m manager of Arsenal and as long as I am manager, I will decide what happens on the technical front,”

  53. David Smith

    szczesny ….and cech need exactly the same, get Gerry Peyton especially, but also, the rest of the wengers long past it enablers out of the club..

  54. Moz

    Champagne Charlie,

    So I guess in your opinion Wenger has done a good job building a squad with the resources available?

  55. SUGA3

    Ideally, I would have Szczesny and Cech slugging it out for no.1 spot. With Szczesny being the no.1 and Cech no.2 at first. Cech would be great mentor for Szczesny too IMO and could be kept as a coach in a few years’ time.

    Not in the current setup though. Peyton needs to go, regardless of whether Wenger stays or not.

  56. Moz

    Surely it’s better to sell Szczesny now to make some money out of him and reinvest his salary and fee in a young lad? Or promote Martinez? He has not been any worse than Szczesny when I have seen him play.
    At the moment with Cech, Ospina and Szczesny we have over 200k per week tied up in wages!!

  57. Carts

    CC

    Wenger then had to go back in with a higher bid, it’s as simple as that.

    Clearly our bids for Manolas and Lacazette were lodged but were below the players valuation.

    Wenger already infere that Kante went to Chelsea for a slightly higher wage, something we could’ve matched but didn’t.

    If we don’t make 4th, then Wenger would need to ask himself whether not coughing up was worth it now that we’re likely to lose a fortune

  58. SUGA3

    Martinez as good as Szczesny? Are you sure? Come on 😆

    Sure, I would sell Ospina and keep Martinez as no.3 to be promoted when Cech retires. But fuck investing in young lads. You need an experienced head in goal. Simple.

  59. Whoknows

    Sky

    I would not describe Gibbs and jenkinson as England intls they’ve got about 3 irrelevant caps between them. Gibbs is also in final year of contract. No chance 15 mil.

    I’m.sure mbappe has noted he would be better off at arsenal at Madrid. That’s laughable. If he thought he needs to develop he would just stay at Monaco rather than sacrificing playing at the highest level under an out if date manager. We have zero chance getting him

  60. SUGA3

    No.2 and no.3 GKs should also play reserve games every now and then to keep themselves focused and match fit. It is easier to rotate outfield players, given how there are enough games to go around, rotating one or two players at time, not to upset the match rhythm.

  61. Bamford10

    Tony Adams has just published an article in which he says that he has long believed that Arsene Wenger “couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag.”

    Key section below—

    “Arsene is so dominant that he was probably not going to like it if I said, ‘We’re conceding bad goals, I’m going to take the back four today and organise them.’

    Because Arsene is essentially not a coach — and that is the second reason why I believe he didn’t want me. Back in the day I said in an interview coaching wasn’t Arsene’s strong point.

    Actually in the original draft, I said he couldn’t coach his way out of a paper bag. And though I modified that in the final article, it didn’t go down well.

    It all left me feeling that I would never get a chance in any capacity while Arsene was there.

    Much as I respected him for his long and successful tenure, my occasional willingness to pass comment on him and the team probably counted against me.”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/3593144/tony-adams-arsenal-return-blocked-arsene-wenger-paper-bag/

  62. Champagne charlie

    “So I guess in your opinion Wenger has done a good job building a squad with the resources available?”

    No don’t guess that, because I didn’t say that. I’m arguing against the idea we simply choose not to buy better players when we can afford them. It’s a ridiculous notion. The club has, and still does, operate within a strict budget whether people believe it or not.

    I’ll also say I don’t necessarily think who Wenger buys is the issue as much as it’s often what he neglects or sometimes the type he goes for. Using duff signings against him is embarrassing stuff, all managers have a rap sheet full of shit names.

    I think Pep is the best coach on the planet by a mile, he bought an awful gk last summer for city and played him all year. Pochettino pissed 60 mil against a wall with Pamela and sissoko. Klopp has yet to buy anyone remotely resembling a footballer aside from mane.

    Wenger for me has a great eye for a player, his issue is what type of player we need and addressing that. I’m not a fan of his allegiance to small and technical, as well as not liking his total apathy towards proper defensive players.

    Carts
    So when I say how would you spend 92 mil it suddenly turns into more than 92 mil…. and you don’t get my point about us adhering to a budget.

    He shouldn’t have simply “went higher”, he didn’t have the money to spend to the degree you’re staying. Or you know, he prefers Lucas over Lacazette etc as you like to drone on about.

    No worries, you would’ve got Kante over Xhaka, even though Kante had the option of us and said nah.. you’d have got him. Awesome

  63. Marko

    I agree with Champagne Charlie. you don’t buy Gervinho if you can afford Hazard. if you’re buying Gervinho it’s because you can’t afford Hazard.

    Yes we could of bought Hazard. And his excuse that we didn’t because we had to address other areas as well is a laughable excuse when you consider we didn’t address those issues

  64. Marko

    Wenger for me has a great eye for a player,

    Explain this. Please. Sanchez aside from the last number of years… please explain

  65. SUGA3

    Charlie,

    ‘Wenger for me has a great eye for a player, his issue is what type of player we need and addressing that. I’m not a fan of his allegiance to small and technical, as well as not liking his total apathy towards proper defensive players.’

    Here on LG, we would spend ages saying ‘this team needs players in positions X, Y and Z’. And it was obvious for everyone to see. Guess what, Wenger would not do the bleeding obvious and it would bite us on the arse in the following season. Clockwork.

    And yeah, he has a great eye. Two players: Sanogo and Denilson. Do you know what they have in common? Both captained their respective U17 national teams. Now that’s lazy scouting.

  66. Marko

    Great eye for talent… you won’t be able to talk your way out of this one Charlie me old mucker.

    The players he’s bought over the last decade you could do a list and the cons far out weight the pros. Gervinho over Hazard alone…

  67. Moz

    CC

    “I’ll also say I don’t necessarily think who Wenger buys is the issue as much as it’s often what he neglects or sometimes the type he goes for.”

    Another issue is who he does not sell, even when it’s obvious to the world that a player is not up to standard.

    And as shown in the table of Arsneal Players wages, these players tend to be kept around on massive wages.

    This is poor squad management and is draining the clubs transfer/wage funds.

  68. Dissenter

    Sczeny hade mad great strides in his time away with Roma. I think he’s making an error coming back to Arsenal though.
    Out goal keeping coaching is crap and he will regress again.

  69. Adam A. Carbarundum

    Your continued support of Gazidis is worse than an uber warm Peroni, Pedro. Gee whiz and then some!

  70. China

    Wenger has a good idea for players trolololol

    He *had* a wonderful eye for players. Had. Has? That stopped a very long time ago.

    How many times has he bought top class players at cheap prices in the last 7 or so years? A few at best. Cazorla and kos are the only two top class players we bought in ages who were not highly expensive.

    To say we couldn’t have afforded to do much better because of our strict budget is absolutely nonsense for a few reasons

    1) we know that wenger didn’t spend everything available to him. This isn’t a debate anymore Charlie. Choose to believe what you like but on this point wenger himself has conclusively ended the discussion and you are wrong. This horse has well and truly been beaten to death and you’re not fooling anyone by sticking to the same script in the face of so much evidence

    2) we could’ve bought a few top players and supplemented the rest with youth/ultra cheap players to add quality and make up numbers

    3) cheap players don’t need to be poor quality. It’s what wenger’s invincibles were built around. Top class cheap players are how he built his name, but suddenly he can’t build a top squad because he doesn’t have enough money? You said he has a great eye for players. How can he have a great eye for players and see the best part of a decade come to pass with very few top class cheap signings. If he has a good eye for players he should’ve had a lot in that time

    4) teams like Spurs, Dortmund, Monaco, athletico Madrid, Sevilla and so on have all developed/bought/produced some elite players on the cheap in this time period. What’s our excuse?

    5) wenger has bought loads of awful players in the last decade. To say all manager sign duds isn’t exactly fair because not all managers would talk of 1 goal per season yaya sanogoals as a 40+m type player. And most of the big teams in Europe will have encountered some decent success at some time or other over the last 10 years. Liverpool are one of the few major teams to regularly spend and not really achieve anything. Chelsea, city, utd, LEICESTER all won the PL. real and Barca have won the league and CL. Psg won the league, Monaco won the league. Bayern and Dortmund won the league. Juve won the league.

    So yes they’ve all signed duds like Arsenal along the way but theyve also still managed to sign enough top players (and manage them properly) to win big in the last decade. Its not really clever to compare us to other teams because besides Liverpool, (who might finish above us this year) we’ve achieved less than almost every major European club in the last decade

  71. China

    My Italian friends said chezzer has been really well received at Roma and has been really good for them

    have you been watching him Pedro?

  72. Mick Kartun

    Kane scores 4 v Leicester

    He’s one of our own he’s one of our own
    Harry Kane he’s one of our own

    Top scorer two season running…
    Arsenal academy lad Harry Kane scores for fun at Arsenal
    .
    Oh no wait…Arsene rejected Harry Kane

    So Kane went to Spurs.

    Another one Wenger “could” have signed.

    But instead the master signed
    Park Chamakh Sanogo Asano Perez

    Arsene nose best.

  73. China

    Also Charlie the worst error you make is in treating wenger and Arsenal are if they are normal

    You’re absolutely right it’s nonsense that wenger wouldn’t spend what’s available to him. It’s nonsensical indeed. As are dozens of the decisions he’s made and things he’s done in the last 7 years. You’re treating a really strange old man as if he’s some regular 45 year old manager. He’s not. Quite clearly.

    He thinks he built the club.
    He treats the fans with disdain
    He lies regularly about being in the market for super players when is happened very few times
    His story about having or not having money always changes to suit his current circumstances
    He said himself he would give back 100m if handed it
    He said he spends money like it’s his own
    He lambasted Chelsea for spending for a decade or more
    He thought park, chamakh, denilson were the foundations of a good team
    He doesn’t do or believe in tactics
    He won very little for 13 odd years but criticizes fans for not appreciating his genius
    He says he can make maths formulas about managers (but he won’t tell you!!!)

    The guy is a fucking nutcase and it’s only finally coming to be realized. He’s weird. Why would you treat him like others when he doesn’t behave like anyone else in the footballing world?

    Similarly Arsenal as a club don’t behave like a football club and this is reflected in the ongoing mess and failures.

    Implying it’s illogical to think that wenger would choose not to use as much of his resources as possible is as silly to say it’s illogical that officials would risk life inprison and the death penalty to allow dangerous chemicals to be illegally stored in Tianjin. Damn right it’s illogical but I was there when the illegal chemicals went boom. Go figure…

  74. Mick Kartun

    – In 2004 Jose Mourinho came, Won the league twice and left.
    Arsene Wenger: “The team is developing.”

    – In 2009 Carlo Ancellotti came. won the league and left.
    Arsene Wenger: “We are building the team.”

    – At the end of 2009, Robert Mancini came and won the league in 2012 and left.
    Arsene Wenger: “The team is progressing.”

    – In 2013 Manuel Pellegrinni came, won the league and left.
    Arsene Wenger: “Still building the team.”

    – In 2013 Jose Mourinho came back won the league in 2015 and left.
    Arsene Wenger: “Still building the team.”

    – In 2015 Claudio Ranieri with Leicester city came from nowhere, won the league in 2016 and left.
    Arsene Wenger: “Still building.”

    – Now Antonio Conte in his first season has won the league.
    Arsene Wenger never finish building the team.
    Is wonga building a team or the tower of Babel?

  75. Wallace

    since Abramovich bought Chelsea when have we ever gone head to head and outbid them for a player?

  76. Wallace

    Xabi Alonso hangs up his boots tomorrow. what a player. if we did pass on him when he left Liverpool I’ll bet that one still stings.

  77. jasongms

    Here comes the tried and true, “it’s all Chelsea’s fault because they don’t play fair”

    All jokes aside, can all just agree that Wenger needs to leave and move on ?… This conversation is mind numbingly boring

  78. champagne charlie

    “How many times has he bought top class players at cheap prices in the last 7 or so years? A few at best. ”

    How many have other managers bought in such a narrow criteria? Fucking state of some of you at the suggestion he has an eye for talent, his career speaks for himself. It’s not been an issue of quality when he’s bought players, it’s been type and need in the team that’s been the criticism.

    “we know that wenger didn’t spend everything available to him. This isn’t a debate anymore Charlie.”

    No it really is a debate unless you’re on the board. What you have is your own conjecture based off sound bites, and because you’re part of a blog that primarily thinks one way you seem to think that transcends this conjecture into fact and reality. Sorry if others don’t share your view.

  79. champagne charlie

    “All jokes aside, can all just agree that Wenger needs to leave and move on ?… This conversation is mind numbingly boring”

    What’s more boring, talking about football that doesn’t encompass Wenger, or continually flogging a dead horse to say he needs to go?

    That’s far more boring than any other conversation of the past couple of days. How many different ways do you need to say Wenger out? It’s pathetic, nobody is arguing that stance.

  80. Rambo Ramsey

    The legendary centre-back spent 19 years in the Gunners’ senior setup, helping secure 10 honors.

    But he’s now revealed he was less than impressed with the way he was treated as his Highbury career wound down.

    Adams told The Sun: “At that point, the club were putting all their older professionals on one-year deals.

    “I went to David Dein’s house in Hertfordshire to talk to him and Arsene [Wenger] about a new contract and was offered a basic sum and then a sum for each game played.

    “What I really wanted was a one-year deal with a guaranteed salary. I was shocked. In fact, I felt embarrassed for the club.

    “Arsenal were not paying what Chelsea were at that time, as shown when Ashley Cole moved there, but what I was being offered was around half of what I was getting ten years earlier.”

  81. Jim Lahey

    I’ve read somewhere that since the start of the 2013/2014 season our club captain has only 13 premier league games? That can’t be possible… right?

  82. TitsMcGee

    The sad truth which has to be accepted is that Wenger has the board by the balls, his actions can’t be questioned by anyone in the club. Hence, he is not leaving. I can only hope to watch some quality players in Arsenal’s jersey next seaso. May be quality, intelligent players can make up for the tactical inefficiencies from Wenger.’

    It’s quite obvious Wenger is untouchable. Combine that with his unwarranted arrogance and being stuck in a bubble and Arsenal are forked for the foreseeable future if(when) he stays

  83. jasongms

    CC

    This coming from the guy who stated that “Wenger had an eye for talent ”
    You seriously are a laugh a minute :)

    Funnier still, you’re one of only a few remaining ‘Wenger in’s’ that still has the gall to show up day after day and post your whiny dribble .. so Kudo’s to you bud, do keep them coming, everyone needs a good laugh

  84. Mick Kartun

    A good one taken from other forum comment section:

    J-arsene: “Arsene’s note as being now officially a senior citizen, with all its attendant benefits has made us true fans much more appreciative of life and football.

    HEAR, HEAR.

    God’s Plan for Aging:

    Most seniors never get enough exercise. In His wisdom God decreed that seniors become forgetful so they would have to search for their glasses, keys, and other things, thus doing more walking.
    And God looked down and saw that it was good.

    Then God saw there was another need. In His wisdom He made seniors lose coordination so they would drop things, requiring them to bend, reach, and stretch.
    And God looked down and saw that it was good.

    Then God considered the function of bladders and decided seniors would have additional calls of nature, requiring more trips to the bathroom, thus providing more exercise. God looked down and saw that it was good.

    So if you find as you age, you are getting up and down more, remember it’s God’s will. It is all in your best interest even though you mutter under your breath.

    Nine Important Facts to Remember as We Grow Older

    #9 Death is the number 1 killer in the world.

    #8 Life is sexually transmitted.

    #7 Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.

    #6 Men have 2 motivations: hunger and hanky panky, and they can’t tell them apart. If you see a gleam in his eyes, make him a sandwich.

    #5 Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day. Teach a person to use the Internet and they won’t bother you for weeks, months, maybe years.

    #4 Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in the hospital, dying of nothing.

    #3 All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.

    #2 In the 60’s, people took LSD to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take Prozac to make it normal.

    #1 Life is like a jar of jalapeno peppers. What you do today may be a burning issue tomorrow.

    Please share this wisdom with others while I, Arsene who built this club go to the bathroom.”

  85. champagne charlie

    jason

    see now I know you’re being wilfully dense….

    I just stated directly to you that nobody here is in favour of Wenger staying yet you manage to respond calling me a “Wenger in”

    *sigh* whatever you say pal

  86. peanuts&monkeys

    “Tottenham, already guaranteed to finish second, now have more points than Leicester won the league with last season, but if Pochettino’s players were frustrated at falling short in the title race, they haven’t let it show.”

    “Although Tottenham were unable to overhaul champions Chelsea in the title race, Mauricio Pochettino’s vibrant young side look certain to make a renewed challenge next term and Kane is the figurehead of that bright future.”

    Picked the above paras from an AFP report. Glowing, aren’t they. Look at the respect Spurs have earned worldwide. Incredible.

  87. Paddy got bored

    Le Grove is fast becoming the written version of Arsenal fan TV so many stupid people lining up to say the same fucking thing.
    You have a go at Champagne Charlie and say he’s a Wenger follower yet he said time again he wants Wenger out like any other sane person does
    At least read and understand what someone says before you all mouth off..
    EIE

  88. champagne charlie

    Paddy

    Precisely my point paddy.

    Unfortunately the nuance in what/who people attribute blame to is criminally overlooked on this platform. Utter a word that isn’t staunchly Wenger out and its lambasted by folk who then undermine others by claiming them to support some other agenda. It’s embarrassing stuff.

    Nobody on here to my knowledge thinks we should have Wenger in charge next season, the only difference in opinion is how much various aspects of the clubs failure are his responsibility (or how much his responsibility).

    That isn’t tolerated though. “Wenger is everything wrong with the club blah blah, any who doesn’t follow suit is an AKB apologist cunt” – morons of le grove

  89. BergkampLegend

    “yet he said time again he wants Wenger out like any other sane person does”

    Priceless.
    Good morinig by the way.

    #ledictatorout.

  90. S Asoa

    All jokes aside, can all just agree that Wenger needs to leave and move on ?… This conversation is mind numbingly boring”What’s more boring, talking about football that doesn’t encompass Wenger, or continually flogging a dead horse to say he needs to go?

    All jokes aside….the joker is back.

  91. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    It will be an interesting after match interview with Wenger if we fail to qualify for the Champions League. If the right questions are asked. Technically on the dole?

  92. champagne charlie

    Park
    What’s interesting is the irrelevance many have stated the top 4 being, yet those same people are now using it as the very reasoning for dismissal. Odd that

    Don’t think top 4 should have any bearing on the decision about his future, nor an FA cup victory should it happen.

    Then again just look at the people charged with making a footballing decision in Arsenals uppers….

  93. BergkampLegend

    @Park : for the last time, the old man already said that IT DOESN’T MATTER ANYMORE!!
    (lol)

  94. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Win, lose or draw I would just like the interviewer to ask some challenging questions from the start – not at the end when Wenger will just walk away. First question should be something like ‘was it emotional seeing that it might be your last match as Manager’? followed by questions like ‘what do you do now’? ‘When will you know’? ‘Why did you state a couple of months ago that you had decided what to do and would announce it very soon – what changed’?

  95. Carts

    TR7

    “Son has scored 21 goals this season despite not being the main man at Tottenham. Very underrated player.”

    And there were people in here the laughed when I said I’d take Son over Ox and Theo.

  96. Paulinho

    “And there were people in here the laughed when I said I’d take Son over Ox and Theo.”

    He is a totally different level of footballer. Can take the ball anywhere in the pitch and effortlessly use both feet to penetrate and get a shot away.

    They’re like little schoolboys compared to him.

  97. Carts

    CC

    The overarching issue is the following: Wenger is incapable of managing an effective transfer policy, as Arsenal manager.

    You’re trying to infer that our budget was £92m. This is something I disagree with.

    We had ample cash at bank, and I highly doubt that the agreed figure available to spend was JUST £92m.

    Wenger’s approach to transfers is very simple. He has a figure in mind, and despise the idea of getting into a bidding war. Welcome to competitive sport, ladies and gentlemen.

  98. Carts

    Paulinho

    Couldn’t agree more.

    I think some people’s disdain for Tottenham – and there’s nothing wrong with that – hate the idea of recognising that an inferior team possess a more complete player with superior ability.

  99. Jim Lahey

    @Carts –

    “And there were people in here the laughed when I said I’d take Son over Ox and Theo.”

    I would take a half eaten sandwich over Theo.