The role of explayers in the rebirth | Managers worth talking to as #WengerOut talk powers up

by & filed under News Review.

Capture

I took in Madrid versus Atleti last night, it showed how far we have to go to become the best. CR7 dropped another iconic performance. Not only is he one of the greatest talents to have graced the game, he’s also one of the fittest. How he doesn’t ever break is quite beyond me. Those genetics, unreal. Watching him out on the left roast about 6 Atleti players to deliver a near perfect cross to Benzema was unreal. His eye for goal and serial killer pass… I mean, unbelievable. He’s 32 years old! Involved in 15 goals in the CL this season, he’s personally scored 101 goals in CL, that’s more than the whole Atleti team ever, and they’ve been to two finals!

Anyway, not point in dreaming about what could be, we’re still trying to deal with what is. Today, we’re here to carry on the Arsene Wenger talk. Just to recap on yesterday, if you haven’t already heard through the viral wave of the Arsenal newswires. We’re shooting for a double protest. If you’re an Arsenal fan who wants to go to the game, make sure you pick up a Wenger out A4 sheet to wave in the ground, they should be yellow to act as a violent contrast against our red kit.

Protest route number 2. Just don’t go. Don’t sell you ticket. Just leave it empty.

Be a voice. Be Vacant.

That’s like my working week dependent on how much I’ve drunk the night before.

Also worth noting that I would cast a serious shadow of doubt over news that Wenger is going to sign his new deal cup final eve. Have it on pretty good authority that talks are being put to the backburner until after, so don’t panic that your morning beers down the Green Man will be spoiled with that shite.

Interesting levelling back onto the tactical work Wenger has been doing behind the scenes. Rolling into a contract negotiation, trying to tot up checkboxes, is beyond cynical. But part of me is glad it’s not working, because football is more complex than asking 11 players to change shape. That he out-thought Pep G tells you what a mess he’s in at City. When you look at the reality, we struggled against Boro, Leicester and took a pounding at Spurs. The 3 at the back gives us a bit more fluidity, but it certainly doesn’t look robust. Namely, because it isn’t, there’s no coaching happening there.

Here’s the thing though, professional footballers should be able to change system and adapt to formations and instructions. You can’t be dropping a new system with 9 games to go at the backend of the season. You need to start the preseason knowing how you want to play. While you’re working fitness, you should be practising tactics and working on the technical side of the game.

Pochettino has his players drilled. Lesser players at that. He can switch formation during a game and it’s no big deal. Wenger just isn’t capable of that sort of ‘on your feet’ thinking, and more alarmingly, he’s not capable of that sort of planning. He claims he watches a ton of football, but I really struggle to believe that. What is he paying attention to when he’s watching Zidane, Sampaoli, Favre, Jardim, Tuchel and Allegri? A man with a mind as sophisticated as Arsene’s can’t be watching. Or he can’t be paying attention. It’s shambolic that someone so in tune with the game can be so tone deaf.

Wenger could literally hire anyone on the planet to help him, but he chooses not to. Not only that, he chooses to proactively be ignorant of a game that is developing around him and humiliating him at the same time.

Even on the player front, he’s been failing for years. He signed Callum Chambers when he could have bought Toby Alderweirald. A shocking choice. He passed on Manolas when he had Joel Campbell as Olympiacos bait. He signed Alexis, despite the problem being that he was massively selfish. I love him, because he’s best in class at Arsenal, but he’s proved toxic this backend of the season, because he’s tapped out. Mesut Ozil, another player who has always had question marks around his attitude, has tanked for us. Carlo A shipped him out because of character issues. Jose Mourinho called him a coward in front of a whole dressing room. A precocious talent no doubt, but under a manager who can’t discipline players, he’s kind of pointless.

Arsenal need a new manager. There are plenty around Europe. Look at the two lining up tonight in the Champions League later on. Look at Lucian Favre pulling up trees with Nice of all teams. Look at the football Sampaoli has been playing with Sevilla. Look at the 29 year old Nagelsmann at Hoffenheim, the man is a genius in the making, he might actually take his minnows to the CL. Unreal work. Hasenhüttl sitting pretty in 2nd with a team newly promoted. So many great coaches around Europe at the moment.

There is nothing productive in Wenger staying. The players can’t work under the pressure of a bad coach who is always two defeats away from fan protest. It’s unhealthy.

We need someone to come into the club who can give it some direction. We need someone with a footballing philosophy. We need someone who is a strong character, someone who has been in a position of immense pressure before, we need someone who can make the brutal decisions. Thierry Henry is not the right choice, you can’t learn on the job, and transform a club at the same time. However, I’d not be against installing a core of explayers. Keep Steve Bould in the mix, rescue Freddie from Germany, bring in Jens Lehmann as the keeping coach, give Keown a chance. Bring in people who understand the culture of the club, even better, enforce it with aggression.

We need to bring a bit of pride back to the place. There are at least 10 options that would come to us in a heartbeat. Remember, this is the best job on the planet at the moment. Money, freedom and an absolute mess to takeover. We could switch out Wenger in a heartbeat and make things better. I really hope the power of the fans will make that happen.

Vacate, or be a voice. Simple as that. The future is in your hands.

Right, that’s me done, see you in the comments.

P.S. Ivan G won’t have resigned. You don’t get this close to the Promisedland and sack it in. That’s not how it works. Too much work to be done… back to your protest plans.

236 Responses to “The role of explayers in the rebirth | Managers worth talking to as #WengerOut talk powers up”

Jump to comment form ↓

  1. Champagne charlie

    Marko
    Well we pay great wages, we don’t however pay great transfer fees. Meaning we can attract talent based on salary but we don’t have the clout to bid or challenge teams when there’s a sizeable fee involved. Not sure how wages are an issue in that scenario beyond the “overpaying” to players that are undeserving.

    Tits
    So Arsenal not pursuing Allegri is Wengers fault? Lol what an embarrassing assessment.

    Fucking Arsene should be out there finding his own replacement. Brilliant

  2. salparadisenyc

    Karim

    Fine margins, if Mbappe scores that first chance which was there best imo they probably go on and win or at least draw.

    Don’t see them scoring 3 in Torino, shame such an exciting side.
    But like I said earlier Buffon needs to lift this trophy.

  3. Relieable Sauce

    Any takers on Marco Silva as next boss?

    Anyone know much about him ?
    Apparently has a 2yr(?) unbeaten home record – for what it’s worth, and has made an impact at a relegation bound side to give them a real fighting chance at beating the drop. Made some good signings as well.

  4. Champagne charlie

    Reliable

    Personally I wouldn’t. Feel, while noteworthy, the demands of a top club are too different to a smaller one.

    We don’t need a manager with a question mark over his trophy winning pedigree for me. Would have either of the ones on display tonight. Long been a fan of Allegri, he’s very astute

  5. Bamford10

    “Manchester United have £72m bid for Monaco’s Kylian Mbappé rejected: French club tell United they will not sell for less than £100m”
    – Guardian

  6. Samir

    Allegri signing the new deal until 2018 means he’ll probably go to Man City when Guardiola gets sacked next season…

    Who knows, perhaps when Wenger decides to step down in 2030 a quality manager will be available to take over?

  7. Relieable Sauce

    CC

    Isn’t it just about building the best squad possible, to achieve some predetermined targets, with the resources you have available ?

    I’m not informed enough to have a fixed opinion on the potential next manager, but we need to look for certain characteristics I think, tactical ability, motivation/discipline, man management. etc. Style should be secondary to substance.

  8. champagne charlie

    Reliable

    I concur with the substance, however football is as much about identity as competitiveness. Arsenal won’t appoint Simeone in this regard.

    I don’t think one needs to come before the other, there’s several candidates out there that offer an attractive philosophy with a track record of producing a winning formula.

    On Mbappe…
    Man United have NOT offered 72mil for Mbappe – Sky sources

  9. Champagne charlie

    Samesong

    As far as CF’s go it’s a resounding yes from me.

    Benz, Lewy, Suarez, Higuain, Cavani, Auba

    That’s the cream in no order imo

  10. WengerEagle

    It changes order every season tbh.

    For example, I’d only have Benzema behind Suarez last season but he’s been horrible in 2016/17, Suarez also has had an underwhelming season by his own lofty standards especially given how spectacular he was in 2015/16.

    Best CF this season for me has been either Lewandowski or Cavani and given Ligue 1 vs Bundesliga, I’m edging it to the Pole.

  11. WengerEagle

    Extremely disappointed in Monaco tonight, as Sal correctly says it’s based on fine margins and M’Bappe on another night puts them 1 or even 2-0 up before Higuain’s goal which swung the momentum Juve’s way, Monaco still looked decent after and Falcao should have buried that 1 v 1 but as soon as Higuain bagged the 2nd they looked like they chucked in the towel.

    All great teams are measured on how they cope in the face of adversity and sadly, this Monaco team came up short tonight and it’s likely the last we’ll see of this exciting side in this competition given the elite clubs will savage them this summer and pick them to the bone.

  12. Relieable Sauce

    CC

    Identity is a bit abstract though, where competitiveness is tangible. Identity will have no significance in getting us back in the CL, or competing for the league. One has to come before the other, this is sport and not art after all.
    I’d love us to play like the Brazil 70 team but we’re not producing or unearthing such players, so the only other option is to buy them, and they’re not prepared to do that.

  13. Redtruth

    I was being sarcastic but on closer inspection the first goal should of been flagged for offside instead of giving Madrid a second bite at the cherry.

  14. useroz

    You can’t make this up…

    Right on cue…Wenger saying he went to Mbappe’s house and came extremely close to have signed him last season…

    Shameless….

    Desperation has truly no boundary

  15. TheBayingMob

    Wenger and the BoD have killed all my love for the club. While they and many at the club might not care about me or others like me, that disaffection is a slow cancer that will eat away at all aspects of the club. We will become the first truly tourist clubs with no real fans in the stadium just a bunch of camera totting happy clappy fuckwits and on top of that we will deserve it for letting this shit show continue for 10 years plus. We deserve everything we get. We are a cunt of a club now. Utter cunts.

  16. Charlie Nick

    News filtering through that man utd may play a weakened team against us at the weekend. Should be an even game then as the current Arsenal team is permanently weakened!

  17. Mick Kartun

    Mick Kartun
    May 3, 2017 13:52:00

    Monaco 0-2 Juve.

    ——-

    My first time bet win with Juve, finally ending the curse.

    Will place bet on Juve to win against RM.

    ——
    bennydevito
    May 3, 2017 14:33:46

    “Be a voice. Be Vacant.

    That’s like my working week dependent on how much I’ve drunk the night before.

    Lol! Classic! Good one Pedro you do make me laugh. Great idea though the yellow carda but for me the best thing would be for everyone to not take there seat but stay outside the emirates protesting. Imagine an empty stadium at kickoff but hearing the fans from outside the ground, would be brilliant.”

    TOTALLY AGREE.

  18. TonyD

    The players CC mentioned mostly seem to be coming to the end of their peak years. One player from that age is ok, but we should be looking at around the 25 year old age group because we’ll take a couple of seasons to really be challenging again. Buying a 28 year old now would see them on the beginning of the other side of their peak years in 2 seasons time. Sanches included.

    Not many Ronaldos out there that can do what he does at his age.

    Interesting piece on potential youth:

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2236373-top-100-european-football-prospects-aged-under-21

    These players will always be regarded as more risky signings, but some could be looked at. Even so, they will command high prices.

    To get them young as Wenger says, then they need to be bought around the 16/17 age. An that makes their purchases even more risky.

    Wenger went to M’bappe’s house and didn’t sign him. Shows he can’t get the top rising stars. Maybe he never could. God knows he tells us he look at them ALL!.

    F

  19. peanuts&monkeys

    “Pochettino has his players drilled. Lesser players at that. He can switch formation during a game and it’s no big deal. Wenger just isn’t capable of that sort of ‘on your feet’ thinking, and more alarmingly, he’s not capable of that sort of planning.”

    No wonder why you will never ever see Wenger sending instructions to the players during a game.
    This either shows he is extremely rigid to a premeditated, preset plan. Else, he is incapable of any tactical thinking. It just cannot be true that all managers (each one of the most successful ones) need to manage the game during its progress, and wengertheshit Maggot does not need to.

    Only thing he does there at the sidelines is to yell at the officials complaining and cribbing. he is finished beyond his expiry date. lets bury the fossil.

  20. Pierre

    Useroz
    “Right on cue…Wenger saying he went to Mbappe’s house and came extremely close to have signed him last season…”.

    Mbappe probably had a look at the arsenal blogs on line and read English newspapers and listened to pundits on TV and came to the conclusion that signing for Arsenal would be the most depressing experience of his life…..

    Why would any top class talent, and he is the best out there in my opinion, want to play for a club with such a moaning, whining, pathetic fan base as Arsenal…..

    Very sensible lad…. Go and play for a team like spurs or Liverpool, who have not won the league in 84 years combined, and enjoy the backing of the fans, enjoy your football, enjoy the backing of the media of these clubs who would have loved to have won the fa cup (possibly) 3 times in 4 years…

    Sign for Arsenal… No chance…

  21. SUGA3

    Pierre,

    Aaaand these blogs and other online communities have obviously made it all up, whilst it is all patently untrue and everything is hunky dory at The Arsenal?

    You know, there is no favouritism, the coaching is not dated, the club shows ambition, the young talent develop and spread their wings and the manager is not certifiably insane?

    Of course not, all of this has been made up to put a spanner in the works of that Swiss watch-like perfectly engineered setup that is AFC. Fuck off back to Untold already.

  22. shaun

    looks like MOURINE is really looking to bend the old fool over this time and it’s a bit cruel really as everybody knows wenger can’t defend himself using his football or the players he has .So mourine says your most important game is not important to me so I will tell the public I am going to use a weakened team and still beat you at home with your own supporters protesting for you to leave …..a bit like the 6-o drubbing on his 1000 game in charge the man has absolutely no shame..at least the post match interviews will be entertaining ………………we prepare for the next game dahhhhhhhhhhhhh……..we need to win our remaining games dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  23. SUGA3

    You wanna bet they will want to make him the DoF, as a part of that great change this shitshow of a season was meant to be the catalyst for?

    If they are seriously contemplating this, they must seriously think we are all dumb as rocks.

  24. Bamford10

    Pierre

    The club is a shambles because of Arsene Wenger, not because of the fans. The fans have a right to demand better — indeed to demand basic competence — and it is only because the owner and board’s misplaced faith in Arsene Wenger that we are where we are. There is one way out of this mess: replace Arsene Wenger.

  25. Bamford10

    “Wenger: Tactically outdated. Blames everyone except himself. Claims he created Arsenal and disrespected the ‘Wenger out’ protest. Arrogant cunt.”
    – @Coquelined34

  26. SUGA3

    Makes plenty of sense from the PR perspective alone, if you assume there is enough % of good will within the supporters’ ranks.

    Pires is still well loved by most of the fans and would probably get a lot of sympathy for the first couple of years or so. Easy for the clowns in charge to dilute and deflect further. Now there would be another party to shift the blame upon.

  27. TitsMcGee

    Mbappe probably had a look at the arsenal blogs on line and read English newspapers and listened to pundits on TV and came to the conclusion that signing for Arsenal would be the most depressing ”

    Yea. Nobody but Arsenal fans think a Wenger -led team is a dead-end.

    Top talents don’t go to a club that don’t compete domestically or in Europe. Furthermore we are definitely trending downwards. Quite sure our reputation precedes us.

  28. Bamford10

    Suga3

    My bad. Pires wouldn’t be any good either. Great player, but clearly has no idea what’s going on if he still sings Wenger’s praises.

  29. SUGA3

    They must think appointing a yes man ‘director’ is their magic get out of the jail free card. Bet they are chuffed with themselves.

    ‘Worry not, comrades, secretary Pires will get the change required from Our Glorious Leader’

    More or less 😆

  30. Bamford10

    Roy Keane on Mourinho’s plans to rest players on Sunday: “Even a weak team would be good enough to beat Arsenal. Definitely.”

  31. Pierre

    Pochettino is without doubt a very good manager, is he a better manager than Wenger .. Yes…….. He has built a very good, strong team and they are receiving plaudits from all sides….. Lets look at their season compared to Arsenal..

    Spurs
    .prem..2nd and likely to stay runners up unless Chelsea have a meltdown (ain’t happening)
    Champions league…group consisted of Moscow, leverkuson, Monaco….. Finished a poor 3rd..
    Europa cup…. Knocked out by Gent at first attempt..
    League cup…. Knocked out in early stages
    FA cup… Knocked out by Chelsea… Previously they had played villa, Millwall, Wycombe and Fulham….. So in effect were knocked out by the first decent side they faced…
    Doesn’t look that good when you break it down does it…..
    In fact if you put it up against arsenal’s season an impartial person would find it difficult to say who has had the better season..
    So the conclusion is that either Pochettino (who has won nothing in his career) is vastly overrated or Wenger (who has won 9,possibly 10 trophies) at arsenal is vastly underrated…. Probably somewhere inbetween i reckon…..

    I just don’t like the spurs love in on here by certain posters….. Lets wait until they win a few trophies before handing out all the plaudits shall we….

  32. SUGA3

    Bamford,

    It is pretty naive to think he does not know what is going on. Long story short, Le Bob has turned into Le Shill.

  33. Pierre

    Tits
    “Top talents don’t go to a club that don’t compete domestically or in Europe. Furthermore we are definitely trending downwards. Quite sure our reputation precedes us.”

    Though I agree our reputation precedes us, I wouldn’t exactly say man u are trending upwards would you…. But they still managed to attract pogba, ibrahimovic, Di Maria and looks like greizman will be going there…

  34. SUGA3

    Pierre,

    Last two FA Cup runs we had were piss easy. We are almost 20 points behind Spuds as we speak. We also had an easy group in the CL and got embarrassed by the first decent team we played against.

    You were saying?

    Hate to praise these cunts, but they are certainly doing it right. I bet they will handle the stadium transition period way better than we have too.

  35. Ishola70

    Come on Pierre we can all hate Spurs but trying to say Arsenal have had a better footballing season than Spurs is just ridiculous.

    Mentioning the League Cup lol. “Knocked out i early stages” That is scrapping the barrel.

    They were disappointing in the Champions League but playing at Wembley their decision to get the money was not a good decision from them on the footballing front.

    FA Cup, Europa League compared to the domestic League and Champions League is whatever and Spurs have done very well in one of the top competitions that being the domestic league.

  36. TitsMcGee

    I just don’t like the spurs love in on here by certain posters….. Lets wait until they win a few trophies before handing out all the plaudits shall we….”

    Ahhh so the real reason for your anger shows up.

    We have gone almost a decade and a half without winning the league.

    Two decades with no luck in UCL. Get sent home with two bloodied eyes every season.

    Finish an average of 11 points behind the league winners. (Currently 21 pts adrift)

    No end in sight to the Wenger Era.

    Highest ticket prices in Europe (or at least one of) to watch a bowl of shiite fester.

    …all of the above….and you’re worried about Spurs and a few plaudits that have been sent their way (rightfully as they are trending upwards and on the right path).

    Jesus Christ.

  37. SUGA3

    Pierre,

    Are you trolling or are just a fucking moron? What have MU won in the recent decade? The lot. Do they have a manager that is bound to win you stuff eventually? They do. Do they pay the going rate to superstars? They do. Any more questions?

  38. TitsMcGee

    Though I agree our reputation precedes us, I wouldn’t exactly say man u are trending upwards would you…. But they still managed to attract pogba, ibrahimovic, Di Maria and looks like greizman will be going there…”

    ManU are essentially Real Madrid/Barcelona type club. They will always attract top talent.

  39. Ishola70

    There’s rivalry and there is just stupidity.

    Spurs have had a better overall season than Arsenal and that would still be the case even if Wenger somehow manages to beat Chelsea in the FA Cup final.

    They have had a better season simply because they have a superior manager in comparison to what Arsenal have at this time. And they will continue to have better seasons than Arsenal if the two managers remain in their positions for the next few years.

  40. TitsMcGee

    I’d be surprised if Mou plays a weakened team . He despises everything Wenger is about and is fully aware Wenger hasn’t beaten him competitively in a meaningful game.

  41. SUGA3

    Actually, I think Mourinho would love nothing more than beating Wenger at our place with a weakened team and having created the impression of having a bigger fish to fry. I think he is enough of a cunt to try this.

    I would 😆

  42. TR7

    We were humiliated by United’s reserve team last season, so from their point of view it’s not too much of a risk fielding a second string side against us especially given our poor form. Europa league is the best bet for United to get CL next season,so Jose is right to prioritize it over EPL. Besides if his team loses to Arsenal, he has a ready-made excuse and if they win then that’s further humiliation for Wenger. A win-win scenario for him.

  43. Bamford10

    Wenger spent £100m on transfers this summer and £200m in salaries, yet we are 21 points behind Chelsea.

  44. Alan

    Anyone who believes Mourinho will make wholesale changes to his team vs Arsenal is naïve. They’re one point behind rivals City, he hates Wenger and knows it would be a massive risk to put all his CL qualification eggs into one basket.

  45. Pierre

    Suga
    “Are you trolling or are just a fucking moron? What have MU won in the recent decade? The lot. Do they have a manager that is bound to win you stuff eventually? They do. Do they pay the going rate to superstars? ”

    All I said was man u are not exactly trending upwards are they..which they are not .. The days of winning titles and champions league are long gone…. They are even struggling to qualify again…. They are throwing unbelievable amounts of money at it in transfers(something arsenal can’t do) and are not any closer than when they were managed by van gaal and moyes…… And that makes me “a fucking moron”… Are you sure

  46. SUGA3

    I guess we will find out tonight by seeing what team he selects against Celta Vigo and how the game pans out. I think he has enough to dispatch both us and them, however he chooses to play this. Realistically speaking, we are more or less at the level of Celta these days.

  47. Bamford10

    Pierre

    The point is that the Manchester United brand has enough cache that it can withstand a few off seasons. Plus they have Mourinho; whatever his faults, big players still believe in him.

    It is not on account of dissatisfied Arsenal fans that an Mbappe doesn’t want to come to Arsenal. It is because of what we have become under Wenger.

  48. SUGA3

    Pierre,

    First of all, they are in the semifinal of Europa League tonight and they have more of a chance to qualify for the Champions League’s next season than we do. Like it or lump it, if they beat us this weekend, this is our CL participation done. They will be going places sooner than us, especially if Wenger remains in charge.

    Secondly, their manager is not a fucking certifiable lunatic with an obvious early stage dementia. Not going to elaborate on this further.

    Thirdly, they pay the players what their actual worth is. Not based on some French champagne socialist malarkey.

    And yes, not acknowledging all of these things makes you a fucking moron. Yes, I am sure.

  49. Alan

    Personally don’t think many of Spurs’ players are technically inferior to ours. Unfair to beat Wenger with that stick.

    Their whole backline and goalkeeper are miles ahead of ours. Mostly because they are all at their peak and been at spurs for a number of years. For example, it used to be a case of Kos over Vertonghen but Kos is past it and Verts is reaching his peak. Same with Walker and Bellerin, Monreal and Rose. Mustafi will never be as good as Toby A. What a dogshit defender he is.

    Xhaka can’t tackle and has never been able to, so technically he doesn’t belong on a football pitch. The people who prefer someone like Xhaka to Wanyama are part of the problem. Wanyama was a beast in the NLD. His role is break up play and start counters at rapid pace. He was involved in their key chances (including the second goal, as well as starting the move which Eriksen missed the tap in and the pass to Kane which he miscontrolled).

    Dembele doesn’t score anywhere near enough but aside from Cazorla, there really isn’t anyone at his technical level in Arsenal’s midfield.

    Ozil is probably technically superior to Eriksen as is Alexis to Alli. Up front, Kane is miles ahead of Giroud.

    Should Wenger being better than he is? Yes, but spurs are a strong team and if they weren’t a rival, getting beat their 2-0 would have been no disgrace. They’ve beaten Chelsea and City by the same score.

  50. Ishola70

    AlanMay 4, 2017 09:17:39
    ” Xhaka can’t tackle and has never been able to, so technically he doesn’t belong on a football pitch. The people who prefer someone like Xhaka to Wanyama are part of the problem. ”

    Thank you Alan. I can’t believe that there seems so many fans who are willing to turn a blind eye to such an obvious massive deficiency in this player.

    I would go as far as to say that as well as Wenger being a hindrance to this club if he stays on and signs his new contract that this individual player is going to be a very big problem for the Arsenal team if he is picked as a regular starter going into next season. Tbh I’m shocked at just how poor this player is off the ball when I have watched him when he has anything like a game on in midfield encounters against the opposition.

  51. Alan

    Wenger didn’t change his tactics to appease Ivan. You really have to stop that bullshit, Peter. Wouldn’t surprise if were his Ty-like super fan.

    It is very clear that Wenger doesn’t have to do anything to please Ivan. And I doubt very much he would ever, ever take any football advice from some trumped up CEO who has absolutely no clue about football.

    Last year, Wenger went to City’s Etihad and changed his tactical approach. He does at times, changes things but reverts back to system he believes works for the players he has signed.

    All managers have a preferred system. Conte, for example, doesn’t have a plan b. Pep the same. Poch mixes it up but he hasn’t won anything yet. It also took him a near clear out of their playing style to source players capable of adopting his approach. Tactically flexible players are not as easy as you think. It doesn’t happen at many clubs. Most stay true to their shape and very rarely shift from that.

    I think Wenger should go. He’s past his peak like any elite sportsman would be. However, people will soon be blaming him for the weather, it’s getting that absurd.

  52. Alan

    Ishola70 –

    It does make laugh to see the hypocrisy of some fans where they criticise players and the manager for lacking fight and passion yet are so snobbish as to prefer someone like Xhaka to Wanyama. For what purpose? The guy spreads the occasional long pass but did he make as many key passes as Wanyama on Sunday? Has he scored more goals than him this year? Does he protect the back four in ANY WAY?

    They’ve even given this guy some kind of hipster term, ‘regista’. Makes me cringe. What does that even mean? Someone whom instructions fail to register? Seriously. Conte has two holding players with limited technical ability. Their job is to break up play and give it quickly to players who are then free to do what they do best.

    If you can’t tackle and have the positional awareness of a drunken fool, you have no place in a holding role. His passing is not even that great. He’s like an overpaid Tom Huddlestone.

  53. Alan

    Got to love it when people read a comment yet take one line totally out of context.

    I didn’t refer to Wenger as dynamic. Nor was I praising him. I just saying that he has in the past changed his tactical approach so for anyone to attribute his recently tactical shift to Gazidis’ catalyst for change comment is badly mistaken.

    Wenger clearly doesn’t need to impress Ivan in any way. He’s got the backing of Kroenke. Ivan’s just there to try and secure commercial deals. All sporting aspects are with Wenger.

  54. Ishola70

    Alan:
    ” It does make laugh to see the hypocrisy of some fans where they criticise players and the manager for lacking fight and passion yet are so snobbish as to prefer someone like Xhaka to Wanyama”

    I have to feel some sympathy for the player himself though. When he is instructed to high press the opposition it is just laughable trying to see him do it.

  55. Tonyd

    XHAKA Defensive midfielder?
    I said before, but how does it work when Wenger tells Xhaka to tackle less or not to tackle.

    Wenger also said it in the press after Xhaka was sent off.

    I couldn’t believe it when Wenger said it.

  56. Bamford10

    Alan

    Actually, it was the players who instructed Wenger that they should play more defensively against City last season.

    And of course Wenger’s changing to 3-4-3 had something to do with Gazidis saying the manager needed to be a “catalyst for change” if he wanted to stay. This is why Wenger touted his capacity to “change” in the presser afterward. This wasn’t some coincidence.

  57. Bamford10

    And Wenger’s changing to 3-4-3 had nothing to do with “impressing” Gazidis or anyone else. It had to do with Wenger sensing he was under a great deal of external pressure, the team was playing terribly, and he needed to change something.

  58. Bamford10

    A “Wenger Out” sign was in the crowd at the NBA playoff game between the Toronto Raptors and the Cleveland Cavaliers last night in Toronto.

  59. Bamford10

    Alan

    Would you kindly tell us a few things that have been blamed on Arsene Wenger but which you believe he isn’t really responsible for?

  60. Alan

    Bamford –

    Ivan made the catalyst for change comment BEFORE the 2-2 result vs City. A full three games before Wenger changed anything. So to attribute Ivan’s meaningless managerial rhetoric, designed to get a powerless man to appear influential, is indeed purely coincidental.

    The actual catalyst for change was a 3-0 defeat to Palace which was at the back of an unprecedented run of poor results. Against Palace he saw his defenders were isolated, outmuscled and the opposing manager gave the world his tactical plan to duplicate.

  61. Alan

    Bamford –

    My issue was with the post saying Spurs’ team is inferior to ours. It isn’t.

    That is of course Wenger’s fault for signing them but technically, especially in defensive positions, Spurs have got better players. And more importantly, settled players, in their prime. Much is made of how young Tottenham’s team are but their backbone is all players in their prime. LLoris, Walker, Toby A, Vertongen, Rose, Wanyana and Dembele. None are spring chickens. Compare that with Arsenal where Cech, Kos and Monreal are over 30 and Bellerin is inexperienced.

    As I said, Wenger is to blame for constructing a poorly balanced squad but to say it’s technically better than Tottenham’s is rubbish. At least 3 thirds of that team are superior to ours on a technical level. People fixate on Ozil and Alexis but aside from them, this team lacks technically gifted players.

  62. Bamford10

    Alan

    There’s a new post, but why would one defeat (to Palace) prompt the manager to change a system he’s run without change for some ten years? It wouldn’t. Wenger changed things up on account of the massive external pressure building around him, part of which was Gazidis saying publicly that Wenger needed to be a “catalyst for change” if he was going to stay on.

  63. Alan

    Bamford –

    My point is that it wasn’t just one defeat. It was a run of several. Totally unprecedented under wenger at this stage of the season.

    If he really wanted to change for Ivan’s sake, he would have done so against City. Facing a team on top form, at home, after losing against West Brom. Yet he did nothing.

    I just don’t think Ivan has any sway on whether Wenger gets a new contract. IMO if it were up to Ivan, he would get a new manager in. As Wenger knows it’s not, he’s not listening to him.

    He’s losing games and therefore credibility. Time is running out to get his top 4 trophy and for the first time, he’s getting desperate.

  64. Dissenter

    To think that we [gooners] actually laughed at Chelski, once upon a time.
    Chelsea are showing a better form of self-sufficiency [after the initial massive cash infusion from Abramovich]
    They buy very good players, use them to succeed football wise and then sell them at huge profit.
    Diego Costa was bought for about 35 million. He’s on the way top winning two league trophies for them and then he’s about to be sold at 100% profit to a Chinese club.
    They also found a footballing way around FFP with the derided loaning approach.
    Mike Emenalo shits all over Gazidis the snake-oil dealer whose approach was to stash cash in the ban and wait for the elite clubs to go broke.