Three key names: Who goes? | Sporting Director debated | The Arsenal protest

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It’s a podcast today and I think we have a good one for you. The sound issues are, in the main, dealt with. Which is pleasing. We also have some pretty good talking points. We take on Arsene Wenger PR around the Barca and Chinese jobs, we have a chat about what a sporting director could be and whether Wenger could do the job and finally, we take the Arsenal protest.

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  1. DM

    This is weird… I checked 10 mins ago and it there was no new post.. but apparently it’s been up for like 30 mins now. Anyway, nice one Mick Kartun!

  2. Mick Kartun

    Damn, what a 20 minutes waste.

    I should have broken your record then, ha DM. Why oh why?

    Damn you DM, may Arsene’s dog chases you and bite you in the arse.

  3. DM

    Lol Mick I was thinking the same thing, u could’ve got pretty close to the record at least. To be honest, it’d be a damn annoying way to lose my record, when I’m actually here and the post just didn’t show for me! lol

  4. peanuts&monkeys

    Thanks Pierre.

    But i’m curious why would media lap this opportunity up? Whose appetite for anti-Wenger news would the media quench? (we all read what we WANT to read/listen/watch).
    Are there really so many people interested about a protest against Wenger? Who are they? Why is this news at all?

  5. Mick Kartun

    “On Halftime break vs liverpool match and motivational speech in Arsenal locker room.”

    All’s silent to hear the speech……………………………

    “I don’t know what to say really. 45 minutes to the biggest battle of our professional lives all comes down to today.

    You know when you get old in life things get taken from you.
    That’s, that’s part of life.
    But, you only learn that when you start losing stuff.
    You find out that life is just a game of inches.
    So is football.
    Because in either game life or football, the margin for error is so small.

    On this team, we fight for that precious spot, the fourth.
    On this team, we tear ourselves, and everyone around us to pieces for that spot we coveted so much the FOURTH.
    We CLAW with our finger nails for that SPOT.
    Cause we know, when we reach that fourth spot, that’s going to make the fucking difference, between WINNING and LOSING,between LIVING and DYING.

    Now I can’t do it for you. I’m too old and senile too.
    Now I can’t make you do it.
    You gotta look at the guy next to you.
    Look into his eyes.
    Now I think you are going to see a guy who will go that spot with you.
    You are going to see a guy who will sacrifice himself for this team because he knows when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for him.

    That’s a team, gentlemen
    and either we heal now, as a team,
    or we will die as individuals.
    That’s football guys.
    That’s all it is.
    Now, whattaya gonna do?”

    LONG PAUSE……………………….

    Arsene: OK, Al, what a great speech. Thanks I hope the guys will be pumped up and kick some asses. Our receptionist will give the cheque for your pay on your way out.

    Al Pacino: Thanks Arsene. Call me if you need me again. Bye.

  6. ArseneisaFraud

    AW response to the Barca rumours, which he obviously played down (hilarious to think that he is playing down his own PR spin):
    “I am not looking for jobs in other clubs or jobs for other people. I am just focused on me.”

    The “I am just focused on me.” says it all as to how narcisstic AW really is.

  7. TheBayingMob

    “I’ve been here for 20 years and had the opportunity many times to leave. My preference has always been Arsenal, but I am objective and lucid enough to make the right decision for myself and the club.”

    No … you really aren’t Arsene … you’re a lost old fool with no options, shaking like a dog having a shit at the idea of life after the cushiest job in football …

  8. WengerEagle

    TBM

    Top post yesterday about why we’ll be stuck with Wenger until he decides to bugger off of his own accord.

    Not even a controversial opinion, tourist fans at the Emirates are like Cockroaches, stamp out 1 and ten scuttle in to take their place.

    It’s more up to the boys who show up every week .ie the season ticket holders to take the short term pain for long term gain if it helps get rid of the manager.

    Can’t ever see it happening though because as you say, most would be lost without going to the footy every week.

  9. OleGunner

    Take a leaf out of Enrique’s book Wenger and tell us whether you’re staying or not.
    Either we rally behind his ass for the last couple months to send him off or he stays and I can get on with ignoring Arsenal for the next two years,

    It’s genuinely incredible how one man can have our club to play in his hands like a kdi with play dough.

  10. Dissenter

    Arsene Wenger: “Competent managers always try to improve and see what they can do better and reinvent themselves — that’s what I try to do, that’s basically it”

    This man is the greatest one trick-pony-show around.
    He’s stuck in one gear.
    Same tactics, same whinnying, similar weaknesses and foibles.
    SAF found a way to reinvent himself by changing the backroom staff.
    Wenger has run the most insular back room in world footballing history. If Pat Rice had not become sick, Wenger would still have him at his side.
    He’s a dick that no Viagra can fix.

  11. Bankz

    if wenger leaves, I hope he leaves for good.
    I dont buy this going upstairs to become director of football or pick his successor.
    sometimes I think we overly blow the importance of wenger in modern football…the man is a dinosaur and if you think for a minute Barcelona are about to hire him as Luis Enrique’s successor,then you have to be one of the most gullible adults out there

  12. Dissenter

    I have to admit that I’m developing an abhorrent disgust for this man.
    He will stay for life if he gets a chance.

  13. Bamford10

    Two things re Mesut Ozil: one, he isn’t available for Saturday, which may actually be a good thing. Two, he is publishing a new memoir — which Bild is serializing — and in it he recounts a dressing room row with Mourinho in which Mourinho questioned his commitment and called him a coward.

    “”You think two beautiful passes are enough,’ cried Mourinho. ‘You’re too fine for going into fights. You think you’re so good that fifty percent is enough.’ ”

    Mourinho may be a cunt, but he was right about Wenger, and he was right about Ozil (not, though, when he said he was the “best #10 in the world”).

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/mesut-ozil-tells-story-dressing-9947628

  14. Bamford10

    My bad: now I’ve read that Wenger says Ozil may be available for Saturday. So maybe he will play.

  15. Dissenter

    “Ozil is the best no 10 in the world”?
    That’s like saying Wenger can stay for as long as he wants.

    Ozil is just an expensive paperweight.

  16. Bamford10

    As previously mentioned, I’m trying to organize a coordinated online protest to coincide with the March 7th 6PM stadium protest. The idea is to give fans who can’t attend the protest — indeed fans from all over the world — the ability to express their desire for Wenger to go at season end at the same time that fans are doing this is person at the stadium.

    Basic idea is to take photo of yourself with a simple handmade “Wenger Out” or “Time for Change” sign. This could be written on a napkin, a coaster, etc. Then post this photo to Twitter, Instagram or Facebook at 6pm on March 7. Photos should be tagged with #afc, #TimeforChange, #WengerOut & @Arsenal.

    Those who don’t want to do the photo thing can simply type/post “Wenger out” or “Time for change” here and elsewhere (Arseblog, Untold, Twitter, etc.) at that same time (6pm, March 7th).

    Dry run this Saturday at 5pm GMT (before the Liverpool match).

    The more who join in in one way or another, the greater reach it will have, so please consider.

    Cheers, all.

  17. Dissenter

    In Wenger’s Arsenal,Ozil is PERFECT even though he brings little to the team except for “beautiful passes”
    You have to have the responsibility making nine players performing at 110% to compensate for Ozil.

  18. Cesc Appeal

    It is amazing to me the two people in the podcast sort of shift around uncomfortably at the idea of protesting Wenger, but then want to go all guns blazing at Gazidis.

    Talk about missing the point entirely.

    They want to protest Gazidis because then that will lead to a more football focused club and the sacking of Wenger?

    So, Arsenal football club, where the two main power players are Kroenke and Wenger, the former complete vests all power in the latter, that latter is on record as saying he won’t work with a DoF or equivalent, he does not think that sort of division of power is helpful.

    So they think, sacking Gazidis would lead to a really activist, football orientated, DoF type CEO coming in? Astounding.

    Wenger and Kroenke are the issue, and you cannot get at Kroenke properly until Wenger is gone for the very reasons we saw in the podcast, people don’t want to ‘bully’ Wenger, and any form of action against Kroenke won’t receive popular support until Wenger is gone, just look at the ‘Time For A Change’ stuff last year, many of those people made it clear they were talking about Kroenke, you had the ‘f**k off Kronke’ chants at Everton last season, yet still in the Emirates the Wenger flock took it upon themselves to react against it as a complete ‘attack’ against Wenger.

    Wenger is the immediate problem, he’s achieving average results, Kroenke may well be utter shit, but we need Wenger to a) see that, and b) do something about it.

  19. Cesc Appeal

    Any journalist trying to say Wenger could end up Madrid or Barcelona do not know the man at all, I mean short of the fact I think the idea either would offer near-70, underachiever Wenger a deal, this is just PR garbage, anyone who has even paid slight attention to him over the last ten years would know he will fall to pieces in that set up.

    I would even say the same about PSG, might be able to stroll the league most years through sheer power, but would he spend money, and further, the owners want the UCL, which requires tactical nous, where Wenger has been shown up time and again.

  20. Dissenter

    Ozil still adores Mourhino despite being pushed to step up. Tough loves works better that the empty praises Wenger dishes around.

  21. peanuts&monkeys

    Ozil: a football manager with some brains left for football amd gall left for winning trophies would have made Ozil play the Cazorla role. I tell you Ozil would have been far more effective.

    But, in that case Arsenal needs a Mata as a No 10.

    Alas! who the fuck will ever expect Wengermo&^%$#&&*cker to change!?!?

  22. Bamford10

    Cesc

    Such people are in all likelihood shamefaced AKBs. They claim to be “Wenger out,” but they focus on Kroenke or Gazidis because they’d prefer not to criticize Wenger or aim their ire at Wenger, whom they still idolize. They’re also probably middle class types who would prefer not to be associated with protest, as they feel it is somehow “beneath them”. That’s my guess.

    I’ll listen to the podcast, though, and see what these two have to say. I have a feeling I won’t like it.

  23. Cesc Appeal

    Bamford

    You’ve got one of there arguing Wenger is a visionary basically, and a great strategist, and so would make a great DoF. I mean, for people on a podcast, people who are Arsenal men, how on earth can they understand their club and the people in it so little.

    Its like the people who just pretend Wenger is only a manager and is told what to do!

    But, I’m sorry, I stop listening to you after you describe Wenger as a visionary and strategist, maybe in the late 90’s, the problem is it is 2017 now, people are using iPads and Wenger is still waiting on TV/VHS combo devices to make a comeback.

  24. Bamford10

    Cesc

    “You’ve got one of there arguing Wenger is a visionary basically, and a great strategist, and so would make a great DoF.”

    Right, which is why we have been completely irrelevant for ten years now. Anyone with the above opinion can be safely ignored.

  25. Bamford10

    Interesting question posed on Twitter: what, in your opinion, are the three bestgoals we’ve scored since moving to the Emirates?

    “James” (@JECook96) reckons they are:

    Van Persie v Everton
    Wilshere v Norwich
    Eduardo v Burnley

    Video of Van Persie goal below. Great frickin’ goal. Even now I get excited watching it.

  26. Cesc Appeal

    Bamford

    The reason he gives is that whilst Wenger is a visionary and strategist, he is not great at tactics or carrying it through into effect.

    But that is a man who can craft a culture and vision at the club?

    First off, is that not what he was supposedly doing the whole time he’s been here, what you see right now is the vision.

    Second, his vision is nothing more complex than ‘happy players expressing themselves playing nice football in a nice low pressure environment.’

    Third, this is a man who would abolish the January transfer window.

    Fourth, this is a man who struggles annually with the transfer market.

    Fifth, this is a man who dislikes intensely the modern inflation in transfer prices etc.

    Sixth, this is a man who stopped being able to spot smart deals, or youth prospects years ago, a club like BvB for example are getting the types of players in Aubameyang and Dembele, as two examples, you would have expected Wenger to get in the later 90’s early 00’s.

    Seventh, this is a man who has changed his mind on what this club is numerous times, pace and power, project youth, midgets playing tappy football, British core, now to ‘who the f**k knows.’

    DoF, yeah, no thanks.

  27. OleGunner

    Cesc Appeal,

    You’re absolutely right about Wenger being a shield for Kroenke.
    Way I see it, we have two battles coming at us over the next 5-10 years.

    First it’s getting Wenger gone (which I personally don’t see happening until 2019) and then getting fans ire directed at Kroenke. Stan knows he’s insulated from all fan pressure thanks to Arsene’s marvelous ability to emotionally play the gullible fans left over.

    But once he’s gone the fans focus will shift to him and how he’s not interested in being competitive. I think that’s the only thing Arsenal fans would be united in doing is seeing Kroenke be gotten rid of.

    Then again, I have the belief some managers would still produce more titles under Kroenke than Wenger would under the same conditions.

  28. S Asoa

    Nine Wenger is a double – faced liar
    Yep . Look at him hard . Two faces Dr Jekyll – Mr Hyde

    In short a son of a b—ch

  29. WengerEagle

    Team goals:

    Wilshere vs Norwich 2013/14- has to be
    Rosicky vs Sunderland 2013/14
    Arshavin vs Barcelona 2010/11
    Ozil goal vs Manchester United 2015

    Individual goals:

    RVP vs Inter Milan 2007 friendly- my personal pick
    RVP vs Everton 2011/12
    Arshavin vs Blackburn 2008/09
    RVP goal vs Liverpool 2008/09
    Cesc goal vs Spuds 2009/2010
    Vela goal vs Sheffield 2008/09

  30. Cesc Appeal

    Ole

    Agreed.

    Wenger is doing about right, and has been doing about right for ten years now, but he’s not attempting to change much to do better than about right, that stems from self-preservation, if he doesn’t reach he can’t miss and fall, so just stay stationary.

    Could a better manager having £100 Million a summer to spend and a £200 Million wage bill do better? There’s a good chance they could, look at Pochettino, doesn’t have those funds, but is matching Arsenal. Of course a manager could do worse, but that is the chance we take.

    But once Wenger has gone, Kroenke is bare to critique.

    I’ve always said, just be disobedient in the stands, chant for Usmanov, chant that you want Kroenke gone, Gazidis gone and Wenger gonem ‘same old shit’ chants, etc.

    WE

    Certainly am watching it.

    I think Haye will knock him out in the third round, bit cagey first round but then Haye will touch him right at the end of it and hurt him, down hill from there for Bellew.

    Just think Haye is too fast, too powerful for him. But, this is boxing so, who knows.

    Khan vs the doper will be a good fight, until Khan gets brutally knocked out mid-fight obviously.

  31. Dogs Bollocks

    Stan Kroenke owns 66.4 % of Arsenal Holdings PLC whilst Alisher Usmanov owns 30.5%
    If Kroenke wont let Usmanov have anybody on the board or have any control over the running of the club then why would he be bothered about what a few disgruntled fans think.

  32. Dissenter

    “Could a better manager having £100 Million a summer to spend and a £200 Million wage bill do better?”

    You know the answer to that question.
    The new manager has to get round pegs for round holes, i.e. make a system work.
    Players have to be moved out. Alliances have to be broken including the German lovefest and British core nonsense.
    I would rather us lose money clearing out bad contracts for one season then begin a merit-based approach to wages that will pay a world class player 250k weekly.
    We have too many sickly, out-of-form and crocked players on hefty salaries.
    It’s possible to easily clear out 50-75 million of the wage bill and it wouldn’t affect the results o the field.

  33. gambon

    Hope to god Bellew knocks Haye out.

    Cant see it though.

    Haye is one of the biggest cunts anywhere in Sport.

    His Wife (may be Ex wife now) is a friend of a friend, and they were at a house party about 10 years ago, when Haye was a cruiserweight, and he was an utter cunt.

  34. Dissenter

    A Barca fan on twitter: He [Wenger] wouldn’t last till the next transfer window if he joined us. The Man is a serial loser and would be satisfied if we lost to Real Madrid”

  35. Leedsgunner

    Wenger pick his replacement? No. No. No. No.

    Wenger picked his own boss when the club hired Gazidas… how’s that working out?

    Wenger doesn’t plan, he reacts…. he’s a follower now, and no longer a leader.

    When Wenger goes he needs to go completely.

  36. WengerEagle

    Yeah Haye turning out to be a total cock would hardly be a surprise, supremely talented athlete but comes across as a wanker and his ‘trash talk’ is rubbish and cringey, he talks like a 10 year old bully in a schoolyard.

    We get it David, you’re going to cave in Tony’s head…

    He’s no match for even Bellew verbally and he was absolutely humiliated by Fury when they were going at it a few years ago, left in stunned silence as Fury talked rings around him and made him look an absolute plonker in front of all of the cameras.

    But yeah, he’s going to make pretty easy work of Bellew and get an early KO because as a fighter, he’s world class.

    Terrifying punching power, honestly believe he beats current AJ.

  37. gonsterous

    rosicky vs spurs was a beauty.. lil Mozart was one of my fav players when we had that incredible midfield consisting of cesc, hleb, flamini, rosicky..

  38. Leedsgunner

    Haye will probably stub his toe as he prances out of the dressing room on to the ring.

    Anyone who blames an injury after losing the fight like Haye did versus Klitchko is a loser. not only in the ring but mentally.

    If you are a professional sportsperson you should have the bottle to face up to defeat with class rather than whimper with excuses after the fact.

    Completely unimpressed with Haye.

  39. WengerEagle

    Agree Leeds, it’s why I lost respect for Manny Pacquaio post-Mayweather fight because he blamed the loss on a mysterious ‘shoulder injury’ he conveniently said nothing about prior to the bout.

    100% BS that he wasn’t fully fit going into that fight with so much at stake.

  40. Leedsgunner

    Wenger Eagle

    PacMan versus Money was only going to end one way… with Floyd outboxing and outreaching him. I couldn’t believe it when I saw that it was going ahead, such abad mismatch and only done for the money — and not much of a sporting contest to be honest… Manny was very badly advised on that one.

  41. Whitty

    I’ll be at the protest on Tuesday 100%.

    I’ll be the one wearing the the t shirt saying ‘Wengers a cunt’ on it.

    This shit show has to stop.

  42. gambon

    Would say Haye is far from a world class boxer.

    Made a career beating utter bums.

    Maccaranelli, Chisora, Valuev…..he even ducked Tyson Fury, another bum.

  43. Redtruth

    WengerEagle
    “But yeah, he’s going to make pretty easy work of Bellew and get an early KO because as a fighter, he’s world class.”

    Lol lol lol

  44. WengerEagle

    gambon

    In the history of the sport, completely agree he’s a bum. Heavyweight boxing in the 70’s was untouchable and briefly resurfaced with Tyson, Lennox and Evander, etc in the late 80’s/90’s.

    But as far as present day landscape goes, the top 5 heavyweight boxers are AJ, Fury, Wlad, Haye and Wilder. Dogshit in a historical sense yes but he likely beats most of the other top 5 so has to be classed as elite in the current generation imo.

  45. Wenger the manipulator

    The biggest joke is we don’t even play good football anymore. At least when we had the “weak midget phase of arsenal” as someone else on here mentioned we at least played some of the best football we ever have despite the usual bottling. The days of nasri, fabregas, Wilshire and rvp were better than today because we at least played amazing football. Now with all the money we’ve spent on supposedly top players, we both play ugly, slow football most times, but we the biggest joke is we still bottle it when it matters. Our defence today is way better today yet we still make the same mistakes. The fact is everything wenger has tried to do since abandoning fast, physical football with a bit of finesse added has failed. Short passing, British core, and the lack of any clear style we have the last few seasons hasn’t worked. It’s time for wenger to go so we can bring back the balance of physically tough and finesse so we can start winning things again.

  46. Pedro

    Guys, just checking you all listened to the pod… if not, I’ll start banning people.

    Thanks in advance.

  47. Dissenter

    Pedro,
    You two guests on the podcast disagreed with you regarding Gazidis.
    Your defense of his abilities was too predictable and quite feeble to be honest.

  48. Cesc Appeal

    The two guys on the podcast were complete wrong to focus on Gazidis, that is like having a giant arse bone jutting out of your shin and deciding to clip your nails.

    Whether you think Gazidis is good or not is one thing, earmarking him for pressure to effect change and not Wenger is honestly so stupid you should walk into a wall repeatedly until you learn your lesson. I like your podcasts Pedro, but honestly, tell those two people on it that some random person from England they’ve never met, never likely to either, is very, very upset with them.

  49. Pedro

    Agree CA. Stan is a problem, only in the sense that he looks at Arsenal as a business / through the lens of American sport.

    The whole narrative this morning from other opinion people was off as well

    We should worry about the club post Wenger.

    Why?

    3rd highest net spenders
    A wage bill comparable to City
    Zero interference in playing matters from the CEO or owner
    Loads of money piling in they’re not pilfering out the club

    New manager has the perfect platform. It’s disingenuous to say Stan is bad for the club for any reason outside of not firing Wenger… especially if you led the, ‘we love Silent Stan because he doesn’t interfere like Abramovich’ back in the day.

  50. Dissenter

    Cesc,
    They were not wrong to focus on Gazidis when he’s part of the problem.
    The problems are multi-dimensional and Gazidis weakness has been contributory. We can focus on several aspects of the problem at the same time so I have no problems with how they wanted Gazidis gone as well.

  51. Dissenter

    Pedro,
    Why is our commercial revenue so ordinary?
    Why is there zero interference from Gazidis about the bloated wages for crocks?
    You know where a lot of us stand on Gazidis so there’s no point re-litigating agreed disagreements.
    Cheers.

  52. Pedro

    Dissenter,

    > because we’re an ordinary club. Marketing people aren’t stupid.
    > Wenger controls all aspects of the playing side. He decides wages.
    > Where you all stand is wrong. Keep telling you this.

    Gazidis isn’t the problem, the inherited power structure is wrong.

  53. Guns of Hackney

    Redtruth

    “Tyson and Lewis both overated bums”

    Okay, I’ll bite. I know your reputation on here is based on the one line controversial, telling it like it is shtick…but you clearly know nothing about fighting if you think Tyson and Lewis are bums.

    Stick to the shtick.

  54. PieAFC

    When Wenger does finally go, I hope all those who follow their master lemming jump ship with him.

    All the defensive rows, the arguing, shit statistics constantly bounded round.

    Never won a back to back league title is shocking for the team we had.

    My love for Arsenal fades every day that man talks. Once he and the rest of his flock of sheep piss off hopefully Arsenal in and around the club will be positive again.

    Divided over one man who thinks he’s better and is the club makes me sick. Cunt. Makes a mockery of us.

  55. PieAFC

    I genuinely believe IG knows what’s wrong with the club, wants to change things, but cannot for the life of him mess with the equiblirium that’s been created by Wenger and his merry band of yes men being drip fed.

    Wenger out. Then hopefully SK will follow.

    Besides, we could be worse. Luckily not the fans of Leyton Orient or Blackburn, blimey poor souls.

  56. Cesc Appeal

    Dissenter

    But that is not what they said, they started saying the protest should be directed at Gazidis not Wenger, which is so incredibly stupid its baffling, Kroenke and Wenger would laugh their arses off if Arsenal fans rounded on Gazidis.

    Of the three, Gazidis is on the bottom of the list of responsibility, I’d even put some of the pensioners on the board above him.

    Fully support the idea of all of you f**k off and let Usmanov in, but those two were part of this whole ‘Wenger’s my granddad, I don’t want to shove him off,’ despite one of them last week saying that is what it will take.

    Pedro

    We’re pretty much a dream for a new manager.

    If I was in Gazidis’ position though, in between marveling at how shiny my head was in the mirror, I’d be getting in a DoF like Monchi, Zorc etc and trying to bring in Overmars or the like to work in the new technical director department, modernize and Arsenalize.

    Then look to collaborate with them to land a top notch manager and set the agenda for turning this club into a side that punches above its weight by spending the maximum amount of resources we have wisely, and then maximizing the personnel we have. Neither of those things does Wenger currently do. If you don’t do that, you’re fired.

  57. Cesc Appeal

    Fabregas’ goal from restart against Spurs, was not the prettiest or most spectacular, but I remember turning around in the stands after giving it to the Spurs lot and seeing him through on goal and feeling as if I was watching a replay or something, the place went absolutely nuts.

  58. Marc

    There’s a huge amount of talk on here about life after Wenger and now we’re seeing life after Kroenke talk.

    The interesting thing is he must have a game plan. He takes very little money out of the club so he’ll only realise real value when he sells up. He can’t use our cash reserves as collateral – Usmanov would go mental and it’s not his money – he can use his shares as a guarantee on borrowings for the LA stadium but if he sold up he’d have the liquid cash as collateral so no real change.

    We also have the issue of PL club values – both Sky and BT are seeing reduced viewing figures in the UK – I have no idea what’s happening to over seas numbers but could we really see another domestic TV deal with the sort of increases we’ve had recently? It’s no good Kroenke looking to sell when the bubble has burst he needs to sell whilst things are on the up and just prior to a downturn.

  59. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    If you would just like to forward that to skroenke@wigfetish.com, really would appreciate that.

    I don’t know what I would do if Wenger left and Kroenke just thought ‘f**k it, I will sell tot he Uzbek for a huge profit,’ delirium would set in I think.

  60. Marc

    Cesc

    You’re absolutely right about Arsenal being a highly attractive move for a new manager. The foundations of a good team, money to spend, good fan base and no “issues” i.e. new stadiums etc to deal with.

    One of the reasons I think the Spud’s could well be about to run into some trouble if they don’t win the cup this year.

  61. Cesc Appeal

    Pedro

    Fantastic player, I actually think those sides, the 2010/11 one sticks in my mind, when fully fit and firing are much better than the current lot.

    It is kind of weird, I feel that now Wenger has money he’s building worse teams? Like he has not plan, so is just adding more and asking ‘is it art yet?’

    Really liked Eduardo as well, for some reason I always think of Fabregas and Eduardo when I think back to those days, Arshavin as well for the genuine excitement when he arrived.

  62. Marc

    Cesc

    The Chinese seem to be chucking money into various clubs around the world and don’t have a presence in London. There could be more than one option.

  63. Cesc Appeal

    Marc

    And Uzbek, Chinese connection at Arsenal? Would take it.

    Kroenke’s main problem is he does not give a s**t about success, he is not a bad owner in terms of hamstringing a manager as some pro-Wenger people make out.

    He lets Wenger be Wenger, that is his crime.

  64. Marc

    Cesc

    I’m still not sold on Usmanov and he’s been unusually quiet recently, historically he’s used any opportunity to have a go at Kroenke whilst supporting Wenger.

    For all we know he’d be just as happy with Wenger in charge. If we can’t go back to the old ownership model let’s have a clean sweep and hope for the best.

  65. Cesc Appeal

    Fabregas was a far better player for Arsenal than Ozil has been, I don’t think anyone can doubt that.

    Would have been something to have seen Fabregas and Alonso in the same midfield, always remember the rumours that Fabregas begged Wenger to sign him.

  66. WengerEagle

    Fabregas was the best midfielder in the league for a few seasons in an Arsenal shirt, no contest.

    Sad how it all ended, his talent deserves better than rotting on the Chav bench in his last few precious golden prime years.

    Hope he leaves them as I still have a lot of love for him.

  67. Cesc Appeal

    When everyone was fit, that 2010/11 team was a great one, same old story though, missing a CB, CDM and GK, Parker, Cahill and Schwarzer were my picks at the time, I think we haggled over £1 Million with Schwarzer and pulled out of the deal.

    Song, Wilshere, Fabregas, Nasri, Walcott/Arshavin, RVP, when they were all out there, really enjoyable to watch, up until, of course, the utter collapse after the League Cup final, luckily though we grew out of total collapses as a team, otherwise of course you would have to think there was something wrong in the management, but down to those players really, isn’t that right Henry?

  68. Ishola70

    Giroud the latest one to be wheeled out and the most straight forward and forceful yet.

    “Obviously, he is someone who brought the club to where it is today, who has made it one of the best in Europe.“We are supporting him 100%, it is not like today we would just jump ship or turn our backs. The players, we are the first ones concerned, we are the first affected.”

    “I hope, like my colleagues, that the coach will stay because I am convinced that we are not missing much in order to win the Premier League.”

    Laaa-La-La-Lala-La-Laaaaa-La-La-La-Laaaa Heeyy Mong!

  69. London gunner

    How is xhaka any better than Song of a few years ago lol.

    Think about it for a second

    Song was a better long distance passer…

    Song was far more natural on the ball xhaka is very poor imo

    Song was more athletic than xhaka is more mobility despite not being that pacey

    Both are
    Defensive liabilities though

  70. Ishola70

    There is not a hells chance he leaves.

    There is still enough that will not go against him and try to force him out, the players are grouping around him defending him minus Sanchez, the owner loves him to death and the contract is there for him to sign and we have podcasters swooning over him.

    Fvcked.

    Enjoy two more years of the charlatan.

  71. Bamford10

    Giroud can fuck off as well. That he was our starting for CF for 3-4 years is a fucking farce. Point #37 in the 178-point case against Arsene Wenger.

  72. Ishola70

    Players look very distressed on the pitch regarding an injury to Torres in the La Coruna v Atletico Madrid match. Fans too look upset.

  73. Bamford10

    The mediocre commercials are down to our being a mediocre team for the past ten seasons, not Gazidis’s ineptitude.

    When a new and better manager comes in and makes Arsenal competitive again, then you can judge Gazidis.

  74. Danish Gooner

    Now is the time to stand up for the club because if anyone jitters the weasel will be back in the hen house come summer.

  75. Bamford10

    I will say again that the dream scenario is not just that Wenger leaves, but that he leaves, goes to another club, and fails miserably there. It would be nice to see him exposed thoroughly — and to close the case on him once and for all.

  76. seg

    Did you expect anything different from Giroud? Most of them knows if Wenger leaves, they will have to look for another club! So it’s in their interest for le-megalomaniac to stay for as long as humanly possible. And they know it.

  77. Ishola70

    Torres was knocked out cold in a head collision in mid-air and fell head first into the turf . His neck was like flimsy. Taken off in ambulance.

  78. WengerEagle

    Don’t know what has happened to Vietto but he looks a shadow of the player that he was at Villarreal.

    Been so shit tonight and in general these last two seasons.

  79. WestLondonGoon

    Fernando Torres talking on the way to hospital says his agent; looked a really horrible injury.

  80. London gunner

    Did torres swallow his tongue?

    Am players were epic they ran over and looked like they prevented him from choking/swallowing his tongue..

  81. Dissenter

    Pedro,
    You keep extolling the virtues of Gazidiz. He’s CEO over and untenable situation;
    The manager is having a public power play-tantrum.
    The “best” two players won’t renew their contracts
    The youth set-up is is cast adrift without a manager
    Yet Mr Gazidis is blameless and is just bidding his time.

  82. Mick Kartun

    A very depressed Arsene decided to retire and became a priest.

    One day during his flight he had an experience with a very distinguished lady was on his plane arriving from Switzerland.

    She found herself seated next to Arsene whose been seen as a nice priest whom she asked: “Excuse me Father, could I ask a favor?”

    “Of course my child, What can I do for you?”, said the priest.

    “Here is the problem, I bought myself a new sophisticated hair remover gadget for which I paid an enormous sum of money. I have really gone over the declaration limits and I am worried that they will confiscate it at customs. Do you think you could hide it under your cassock?” said the lady.

    “Of course I could, my child, but you must realize that I can not lie.”

    “You have such an honest face Father, I am sure they will not ask you any questions”, and she gave him the ‘hair remover’.

    The aircraft arrived at its destination.

    When the priest presented himself to customs he was asked, “Father, do you have anything to declare?”

    “From the top of my head to my sash, I have nothing to declare, my son”, Arsene replied.

    Finding this reply strange, the customs officer asked, “And from the sash down, what do you have?”

    Father Arsene, the priest replied, “I have there a marvelous little instrument designed for use by women, but which has never been used.”

    Breaking out in laughter, the customs officer said, “Go ahead Father. Next!”

  83. Sid

    For Sanchez to sign contract, Wenger has to announce he is stepping down with Max Allegri stepping over. As for Ozil, Allegri himself will throw him out of the team once he takes over.

  84. China

    I’m not really sure why gazidis would be powerless to have any positive impact on our situation

    He is in a more senior position than arsene. If he was bothered by arsene’s failings don’t tell me he’d be powerless to get involved.

    Kronke loves wenger because wenger is easy money – but Stan also knows fuck all about football. If Ivan went to stab saying wenger is costing us money by not achieving the club’s potential and holding back our brand do you really think Stan wouldn’t listen…? To his CEO….?

    Let’s be frank. Gazidis doesn’t do anything because he’s comfortable with status quo. There’s zero evidence to the contrary and plenty of evidence in favour.

  85. China

    How many times has Ivan come out and talked shit to the fans, lied about investment, ambition, arsene and everything else?

    He’s come out defending arsene plenty of times in the past

    He’s the only CEO in the world without any work to do because wenger runs this shit show

    If you think Ivan wants to actually have work to do and be accountable to Stan and the fans for what goes on in the club then I dunno what on earth would give anyone that impression

    He has the only job at Arsenal easier than Lucas Perez (paid to sit on a bench occasionally). He does absolutely nothing lol

  86. Black Hei

    China

    Ivan will not stab Wenger.

    Stan will just throw back the challenge to Ivan and says that its fine as long as Ivan can get someone to make as much EASY money as Wenger.

    No calls to the owner, no fuss and no innuendos to the press. You get a budget and you walk the straight line and get the coffers up.

    I bet anyone who wants to keep his job will just shut his trap.

  87. S Asoa

    Hey guys
    Biggest failure is to back off. That way you can never succeed.
    Can see a few people tottering about the protest. Can never Achieve without Trying . Also note that #WengerOut is a process and not a Single incident. If you go on twitter there are hundreds of posts asking for the head of Le Scoundrel. Have you seen how Winger is back tracking on his own China and Barca PR ?
    Apparently that Avaricious Leach has signed . Insult him and fling your indignation, pies, eggs .
    UNWANTED WENGER SIGNING IS AN INSULT TO THE FANS WHO WISH RESPECT FOR THIS CLUB which has become a joke on social media.

    Hup hup Kick Up Wenger Ass

  88. S Asoa

    Arsene Wenger in numbers
    Premier League trophies: 3
    FA Cup wins: 6
    League Cup and European trophies combined: 0
    Number of times failed to qualify for Champions League (in full season in charge): 0
    Year he arrived at Arsenal: 1996
    BBC Sports Personality of the Year best coach award wins: 2
    Years since last league trophy: 13

    Read more: http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/02/arsene-wenger-admits-being-arsenal-manager-is-90-aggravation-6484950/#ix

    A quick poll indicates
    WengerOut 67%
    Morons. 33%

  89. Emiratesstroller

    Reports in Italy suggest that Juventus are planning to buy Sanchez for Euros30
    million! They are having a laugh!

    It smells like a similar story to Van Persie leaving to go to Man Utd. Frankly if
    true I would hang onto to Sanchez until end of contract even if he leaves on
    Bosman.

    Sanchez has to be worth at least £25 million per season to the club when you
    factor in cost of replacement and his performance.

  90. HillWood

    Wenger moaning about the long break between games might mean the team starting poorly against Liverpool!
    Talk about getting your excuses in early !
    3-0 at half time?