Is Arsene Wenger about to drop the mic?

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There’s a smell in the air, and I think it’s change. Journalists deeply entrenched in all things Arsenal are raising little white flags all over the internet, leading many of us to assume the curtain is coming down on the great man’s long career in the blue and red zipper jacket of The Arsenal.

I don’t want to jump the gun here, because there’s every chance at 9am Wenger will come out swinging, but something feels very different this time.

Wenger is a sensitive man. He can feel the pressure of the fans who don’t sing his name anymore. He can hear the upset andoverspills of passion. He’ll understand the aggressive tone in the questioning he’s been facing. He will read the negative press. I’d also imagine a man of his intelligence knows that he no longer has what it takes to cut it at the highest level.

Bayern Munich wasn’t just a lesson, it was a decapitation for the crime of accepting the status quo. It was one of the most brutal spankings I can remember over the last few years, and look, we’ve all seen a few. Carlo Ancelotti showed how it was done. He pulled Wenger’s trousers down and whipped his legs with a bamboo cane in front of all his friends.

The ashen-faced Wenger in the post-match press conference had nothing. All the excuses he’s hidden behind over the past decade were exposed as mouldy red herring. He had the transfer budget, he had the wage bill, he had the stadium ticking over and he had a clean run of not losing any of his best players. Yet he still came up short. Exactly what many of us had predicted through the money doping years.

08 the same as 10, the same as 13, the same as 16 the same as last night.

The story is that many of his close aides don’t think he’ll carry on. Apparently, there were heated exchanges in the dressing room after the game, some calling it a revolt. The worst thing about this particular schooling are the videos flying around after of players walking as Bayern pressed on, stomping their feet like they’re school children and shouting at teammates instead of tracking runs. The players are done with Wenger, they saw the noose tightening around his neck and they dropped a performance they knew would hoist him so his toes barely touched the ground.

It’s strange. Everything I’ve been pushing for over the last 9 years looks like it could be coming to a head. Do I feel pleased? Absolutely not. As I always said, I’d love to have been proven wrong. Wenger loves Arsenal as much as I do and you do. If anything, he loves the club too much. He doesn’t deserve to be ducking out under a cloud. He deserves the most beautiful send-off. Open top bus, hundreds of thousands singing his name, a guest appearance from Justin Bieber with Mr Eboue in a tigers outfit singing happy birthday. He should have it all for his incredible service to Arsenal.

However, we have some monster games coming up which based on current form could very well see us put out of the top 4. A prediction I feared at the start of the year. He can’t let that happen, he needs to control the story. He has the chance to switch up the narrative. Don’t make desperate fans wait to know the deal. Don’t selfishly sit on a decision that could impact next season. Do the right thing. Call a press conference, announce it’s over and graciously allow the club to move on.

That achieves three things. Firstly, it brings the fans back onside. If they know he’s going, they have the chance to say goodbye. Secondly, it puts the onus back on the players. They can’t not play for him, because the fans will destroy them. Thirdly, it allows the club to hire a manager early and let the succession take place at a good pace.

Fans need to be positive about what the club can do. Don’t listen to the fear brigade, who have for years pretended this debacle wasn’t going on, now play the ‘I’m the rational voice’ card. Do not allow them to convince you that the club hasn’t given a thought to Wenger going.

There’s no way that’s the case, it’s a stupid thought and I’ve been reliably informed it’s a nonsense concocted by people who haven’t been paying attention. Ivan Gazidis has access to some of the finest footballing minds in the world. There is no way a guy in his position hasn’t been thinking this over for at least 3-4 years. Secondly, understand that the new manager will likely take over a club outside the top 4 without a major trophy in 13 years. That is perfect. The exact thing anyone wants. No pressure, low expectations and a sandbox to play in. No CL is pretty much the perfect kickstarter for a new manager these days.

Of course there are going to be teething problems. There would be at any club. Of course it’s going to be difficult teaching a team that receives zero instruction how to think critically and do things properly. But look, nothing is going to be more painful than being stocking filler in the Champions League. Nothing is going to more embarrassing than watching a man 10 years past his sell by date lose out to Leicester. Nothing is going to be as bland as 2 years under a man who has been failing for 10.

Also worth noting that the club had never moved to a 60,000 seater stadium before The Emirates and got the job done on time and on budget, despite many naysayers saying it wasn’t possible. They ended up delivering one of the smartest moves in football construction history right in the mix of the most cataclysmic recession of all time. Not just that, the stadium became the second most profitable in the world and the club also worked out a way to become property moguls. Did anyone see that coming? No. I didn’t think so.

I reckon they can pick out a decent manager with £8m in hand. I reckon they can look at what the smart clubs do and copy it. I reckon they’ve been laying the groundwork for a better Arsenal for many years.

They’ll clear out the old school deadwood coaches. Priromac, Banfield, Peyton and Colbert will be gone. I reckon they’ll attack our f*cking awful scouting network. I reckon they’ll upgrade all the bits Wenger has been controlling with his iron fist. They might bring in a DoF of sorts who can help set the vision for the club and manage the bullshit politics. I hope they retire the board who sit there hoovering up money for their silence. They should replace them with a blend of business and football smarts.

I really don’t think it’s as complicated as certain sections of the media, who have zero business experience, make out. It’ll be a shock to the system, but there are people out there sending rockets to space and curing disease. This is not a real world problem. Put the challenge in perspective.

So just remember, change is a good thing. This freshener is long overdue. The club will not only survive, it will thrive. It might not bring success right away. It might not bring it the season after. But rest assured, we’ll scale heights like you’ve never seen before and it’s going to be a truly exciting rollercoaster ride of promise.

One thing we must be sure never to forget, Arsene Wenger helped make this all a possibility. For that, I’ll always be grateful.

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  1. Ishola70

    Arseblog basically called for Wenger’s head yesterday.

    Today he says this:
    “He’s like an old wizard, working harder and longer than ever to recreate the magic formula of his younger years. He almost gets there, so tantalisingly close, but when it comes to executing the spell, there’s something not quite right. Something missing. It’s trying to find that again which drives him, because he is, at the end of the day, a man obsessed with football, with Arsenal, with winning games, and more and more he appears beaten down by his inability to get his teams to take that final step between very good and champions.”

    Absolute nonsense. What a misguided and easily forgiving fan base. He has not come “tantalisingly” close to winning any major honour for years and years. It’s just pure false statement written from Arseblog.I knew that plenty would just sweep under the carpet again another humiliating result but to do this just a day after that excuse of a performance just shows how weak willed so many fans are in actually seeing the back of Wenger. It doesn’t help when a voice piece like Arseblog peddles this sort of rubbish. The new Emperor’s clothes show just goes on and on and on.

    They have just had their asses completely handed to them by Bayern, completely outplayed and outclassed and Arseblog terms this current side “very good”If you didn’t laugh you would cry with these fans peddling this sort of stuff.

  2. bennydevito

    People should read Untold’s post today, absolutely priceless and sums up exactly what is wrong with a lot of Arsenal fans and how this shitshow has been allowed to develop.

  3. Ishola70

    Jeff:
    “it’s the “puss in boots” moment again with the eyes. That’s how Wenger portrays himself after a great loss – somehow or rather implying that this isn’t the “norm”. Of course it is. It happens several times every season. When he wins, all praise and glory. When he loses badly, conciliation and sympathy. That’s the name of the game. How some people still haven’t caught on is mind boggling in its own right.”

    Yeah it always makes me laugh when he says a defeat is difficult to understand. It’s not difficult to understand. They are not good enough as a team, the manager is not good enough. No wonder so many of the fanbase are deluded and living a lie with this side for so long. They just take their example from the manager.

  4. David

    I am wanting a new manager more than anyone. But it is funny how you say change is a good thing, but you hammered anyone who voted Brexit?

  5. Ishola70

    tunnygriffboy:
    “Players are good enoughLack of tactics, organisation and now it appears motivation are the issue. These could all be put right with a new philosophy and a few kicks up the arse”

    Sorry Tunny can’t agree with you there. Quite a few of the players are not good enough. Not just the manager that needs moving on to see this team improving.

  6. Crusaderrabbit

    He won’t say anything today – you can bet your house on it. To him that’s like giving power to the people he has no respect for (journos and fans). He might be sensitive but his ego will win out – you’ll see that in what he says this morning.

  7. Cesc Appeal

    Really exciting reading about the ‘rumoured’ future plans, a new manager, but also Arsenal are supposedly set to bring in a great DoF to fill the space left by Wenger and to start modernising the club.

    As Pedro says, might be scary, unpredictable etc, but I would take that over watching the same season every year.

    Looking forward to it, provided a good run of results does not change Wenger’s mind, surely he now knows he is embarrassing the club at the top level and has in effect splintered the fan base.

  8. shaun

    I don’t agree that he deserves this grand send off you talk of , arsenal have been embarrassed more times than I can think of and this man has been paid the highest salary available for the very best coach’s in the world and he is bang average at best.why do you think he wanted to win in Europe so badly because that is where you find the real tops coach’s excel with there TACTICS and coaching skils’s really tell. Wenger could not achieve that with the invincible team and that should tell you all you need to know about the average mr Wenger.The man steals a living to serve up this school boy shite and then wants to disrespect the fans on top of that with blatant lies . If we don’t hound him out this man will continue to milk the club of 8 million a year and serve up sub-standard rubbish.this man belives he has the most complete squad he has ever had for gods sake…..just get him out yesterday ……………….no discipline whats so ever and he can take all the pussy players with him……………..rant over

  9. tunnygriffboy

    Ishola

    Sure some players need to be moved on. I would argue though that a new manager would be able to get at least 10% more out of players, could improve them tactically and utilise all of them properly in the best positions for them.

    We will not finish in top four unless we improve considerably. I am now convinced Wenger will leave whatever and leaving the club in CL would be a nice present for the new manager and prospective players.

  10. Adam A. Carbarundum

    You miss one key point, Pedro. Wenger announces he’s finished and the team goes on a run and looks great at the end of the season…you don’t think that massively twisted ego of his won’t translate it into a “I’m going to stay on”?

    Come on Pedro, you know better and why show compassion for someone who shows you and I none? Do you feel that? It’s the pain of that knife going into your back and being twisted for good measure….twisted by One Arsene Wenger!

    Nope, he goes period…don’t care how, he just goes completely without a trace.

  11. Mr. Bushido

    I really hope that what you say about the board having a clear plan for life after Wenger is true, but the fact that so many jurnos mentioned a two year deal on the table for Wenger tells a different story.

  12. Leedsgunner

    What was it DT said on Arsenal Fan TV?

    He’s spent £70k following the Arsenal — which Debuchy earns in a week, and here we are at Arsenal where some fans are feeling sorry for Arsene — a man who has earned from Arsenal FC the wealth of a small island nation.

    Why? Why do people sorry for him?

    Wenger is in a job where he earns millions without any pressure and with total freedom… where he even got to hire his own line manager?!?

    He made this mess completely.

    The AKBs condemn us for having a sense of entitlement for titles and trophies.

    Excuse me, we’re not entitled we just want the club to come good on what we were all promised. Why is Wenger entitled to a living at our expense when he’s not coming up to scratch?

    What were we promised? That we would compete.

    Did that look like competing to you or capitulation the other night? What’s about against Chelsea? Against Watford? Against Man City? Against Everton? Basically against any team where we were facing actual real pressure?

    Is that why we moved to the Emirates?

    You know who I feel sorry for? I feel sorry for us, the fans. Many of us are ordinary fans who follow Arsenal without the benefit of a millionaire’s paycheck or the security of a job for life. We work in ordinary jobs and follow Arsenal for a little bit of joy and a chance to dream.

    For those of you still feeling sorry for Wenger, what exactly for?

    It was a privilege for him to manage Arsenal. He should be saying sorry to us not us saying sorry to him!!!

  13. Leedsgunner

    Not even a trace of embarrassment, remorse or contrition to the fans… even when asked directly time and time again whether the game against Bayern was one of his worst.

    It’s just another day in the office for him.

  14. WestLondonGoon

    Even when he’s at his lowest point, he still has that same smug look on his face.

    Come on Arsene, focus, focus!

  15. Masterstroke

    Pedro
    When you speak of what “they” will do when Wenger goes, who do you actually refer to? There is nobody above Arsene who knows anything about running a team. Kronke & Son, Gazidis, Sir Chips etc are sucking the soul out of Arsenal and have completely relied on Wenger (since Dein was sacked) to more or less run the whole show. I agree we need massive changes, but who’s going to incorporate them?
    We are in for a depressing time for the next few years (at least).
    PS see how Untold (sad fucks that they are) are spinning this?

  16. Diabyearnshowmuch

    Ok, if things are going to be different going forward, can we have a complete fresh start?
    let’s dump all season tickets. Next season if you want to go to a match you have to buy a ticket, that would clear all the fucking dross out of the stadium and fill it with people that actually want to support the team.

  17. Wallace

    David

    “But it is funny how you say change is a good thing, but you hammered anyone who voted Brexit?”

    because brexit’s economic suicide. if we dump Wenger then hire Big Sam and vow to only sign English players from now on would you be cool with that?

  18. Adam A. Carbarundum

    And there you have it…defiant, arrogant and insulting. Great Presser! Satisfied, Pedro? Grow up already you fool, Pedro. He’s going nowhere…they could finish 10th and that fuck will blame us before himself and come back because he’s pathetically without shame in his declaration that with each passing year he grows wiser and we grow dumber.

    And you feel sorry for him? That’s misguided foolishness, period. He goes, period. No parade, no nothing – he’s taken more than enough from everyone as his reward. Time to move on without him.

  19. BigCheese

    Pedro – great post today.

    I reckon he’s going. Stan and Ivan know hence the leaked stories about coaches we’ve been enquiring about.

    The players have picked up on this and have downed tools. No one’s playing for him anymore.

    He’ll official announce it once we’re out of the cups and clinging on to top 4.

  20. Rhys Jaggar

    There is not even the slightest chance that Gazidis does not have a prioritised long list for a new manager. Every CEO works to the contingency thst the manager has a heart attack, a car crash, a mental meltdown or whatever or, for the better more ambitious ones, are head hunted.They call it it Scenario Planning or war Gaming in business. IF Gazidis has not done that he should be fired by Monday morning and if Kroenke does not demand that of his CEO he should sell the club before the season is out.

    His job will be to monitor his long list against three initial criteria:
    1. Are they interested?
    2. Will permission be granted to talk to them?
    3. Are their salary expectations reasonable?

    At that point you have a longer list to go through, things including ability to speak English, managerial style, ability to work within the club culture and hierarchy and some more besides.

    Out of that Gazidis should have an ongoing prioritised list of his top three targets.

    This is not rocket science. He can outsource that to a big HR consultancy if needs be. He is still in charge of the process at the end of the day..

    I have seen a few edifices crumble over the years, one in science and Mr Wood knows nothing of medical research if he thinks scientists are free of nastiness, ego, ambition and power complexes (my first career was in cancer research, so I know exactly what goes on there). I have seen it in mass membership sports clubs too, including a feisty AGM where the equivalent of the AST said some rather tart things back in 1990. There is always a tipping point when the aura of the leadership dies and the vultures swoop. The pent up anger and frustration explodes into public discourse and the metaphorical guillotine accompanies the 1789 uprising, as it were.

    The nature of the uprising depends on who or what is being dismantled. If it is a dictator, it can get messy. If it is a Bosrd of Directors, life usually returns to normal quicker. If it is both, chaos can enter the vacuum, but equally the new leaders can have a clear out as their first act.

    The strange thing is that most fans are ready for this. If it were Barca, the Presidential election would change things. but as a fan base disenfranchised, Arsenal fans must be grateful for whatever their masters deign to dole out.

  21. Leedsgunner

    Even after being completely outclassed the other night… what does Wenger finish his presser with?

    “There are only 3 clubs who have played every group game in the Champion’s League group stages for 20 years. Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Arsenal.”

    Unbelieveable. Who cares? What have we done with it? With the experience or the money that the competition has generated?

    Ironic considering the gulf in class between them. We are nowhere near those other two clubs in quality or mental toughness or attractiveness to WC players.

    He reminds me of the kid who takes great pride in his perfect attendance record certificate at school despite failing every his exams every year. He doesn’t learn from his mistakes but he thinks he should get some credit just for showing up…

  22. Ashley

    This team of jokers would still be as shit under a new boss , they aren’t going to suddenly start working , they’ve been picking up 80 grand a week plus for just turning up , they’re not going to start working for it … i also don’t think we should be fretting about Sanchez leaving , end of the day he was just a Barca cast off just like ozil was a Madrid cast off , we need fresh up and coming hungry blood not players who think they are taking a step down when they come here from Barca and Madrid ( and yes i realise we nicked cesc and the others from the academy but they were kids with no experience )

  23. Crusaderrabbit

    Wenger: “No matter what happens, I will manage next season whether that is here or somewhere else.”

    He’s going nowhere. See my previous post – no contrition/reflection at all

  24. tunnygriffboy

    £8 million a year. We get 95% of managers in the world. What a job to get as well. Big salary, club starved of success, London, half tidy squad, loads of wonga to buy new players to strengthen team. No brainer. Oh and the fans will get behind him and the club will probably give him time.

    I’m available and will do it for £4 million :) :)

  25. Paulinho

    Again, this season like others, fans always come out with stuff like Wenger ‘knows’ his time is up, he can tell the fans have had enough of him, and he will walk away etc etc.

    When are people going to realise Wenger is an egotistical, self-obsessed cretin who simply doesn’t care. Stop looking at his body language – which has been horrible for years – and listen to what he actually says.

  26. tunnygriffboy

    Ashley

    I don’t believe that for one minute. All players would have something to prove. New voice, fresh start, new tactics, new enthusiasm and new motivation.

    If they don’t respond to that then I’m pretty sure the new manager will bomb them out

  27. mano'gunner

    That’s a rip off tunny. I offer my services for 1.5 a year with the money saved going into wages for top stars.

  28. Paulinho

    Wenger has just decided to do what he always does when things get a little testy; wait to the end of the season and those weeks after the season to announce the new contract, rather than in March/April. He knows the vast majority of the fans are complete morons who would’ve forgotten what they think of all this by then.

  29. Leedsgunner

    tunny

    If you bottle it like your rugby union team against England the other week… no thanks!

    How do you lose it with 5 minutes to go? :)

  30. Emiratesstroller

    tunny/ishola70

    Anyone who has watched the games against both Chelsea and Bayern must recognise that there are some serious problems with manager, coaches and
    players at the club.

    The starting point is the lack of communication between those on the bench and off it. The manager and coaches sit like dummies on bench and are slow to react when things start to go wrong.

    Second there is absolutely no real leadership on the pitch and one suspects rather limited football intelligence. Koscielny may be a very good footballer
    but I don’t see much leadership during the game and the idea that Gibbs is his
    replacement was plain laughable.

    What is also obvious is that you cannot afford to play in such important games
    too many luxury players. Every player in the team should be prepared to “muck in” and defend when required. With Arsenal there are too often two or
    three players who are unwilling to contribute as we see consistently with both
    Ozil and Walcott.

    Then you need to take a look at the tactics of the team this season. Far too often we have been left exposed to counterattack, because our midfielders and
    fullbacks are out of position when it matters. That was obvious in both games.

    The midfield is at the moment very short of quality particularly in the absence
    of Cazorla. You do not need to be a genius to see that we are being too often
    outplayed in that department. The way that we lost the ball during this week’s
    game was shocking. For all the faults in recent years midfield was never previously a weak area of our team.

    Finally you have to ask questions about our transfer and contract policies. No
    other club would accept the situation where our two best players [assets] are allowed to run down their contracts to the final year at same time. That is potential suicide. The Sanchez situation looks like once again a repeat of what happened with Van Persie.

    As I wrote last night the club needs to separate the transfer/contracts from the
    coaching and bring in people who are able and willing to make hard and difficult decisions. I think that there is at the moment a lack of leadership in club.
    It is rudderless.

  31. Carts

    Wenger is straight outta excuses, and I hope his minions are too.

    I mean, you know it’s scraping the bottom of the barrel when Ty mentioned rain/wet surface as to why we were beaten by Soton.

    Right now, it’s nothing more than being scared of the Unknown. Idiots like Neville and that other inaudible fat fuck who was on BB spewing shit like “be careful what you wish for”

    So their logic is, accept mediocrity; accept that you’re no longer a top team, just a specialist in achieving top 4. Seriously wtf is wrong with some people.

  32. Carts

    ““I won’t care if the next season or two are ‘bumpy,’ as long as you can see efforts at progress, new manager, poaching a great DoF, new players, new coaches, really whoring ourselves commercially etc.”Oh noes…you better be careful what you wish for, CA!”

    The first sentence is spot on, CA.

    I can’t reiterate to people in certain circles that that I’ll be willing to accept a couple of years outside the top 4 if it meant a genuine attempt at changing our entire structure from head to toe.

    Upper mgt, management, coaching staff and players.

    A benefit realisation plan, compiled by the world greatest optimist, would say that such a project would be a 36 month gig; 24 months being optimistic; and 12 months being exceptional.

    But you can bet your bottom dollar that AKBs would cry themselves to sleep in a cold bath, lambasting the Change Team that not finishing 4th would never have happened under Wenger.

  33. Rambo Ramsey

    Did y’all hear some of Wenger’s statements? So much for the wounded animal narrative, the old fool is as condescending and patronizing as always

    Wenger on whether clarity now would be better: “We have to focus on real problems… and not my future.”

    Wenger defends his European record and says he’s managed more European Cup games at Arsenal than they previously played in their entire history.

    On fan dissent
    “That is an internal debate. Even if I go, Arsenal will not win every game. As long as you don’t win everything, there is always something wrong. You have to accept that. In the last 20 clubs in Europe, only three clubs have played every season in the Champions League – Arsenal, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. If everything is not perfect, not everything is wrong.”

    On his successor
    “It is important for the club to make the right decision for the future. I did not work here for 20 years not to care. I had many opportunities to go somewhere else but I care for this club and its future.”

  34. Rambo Ramsey

    Like any dictator, he ain’t going to making a quiet, respectable exit. He’ll need to be disgraced and hounded out.

    Fuck you AKB C*ntards who pontificate over class. Your messiah doesn’t have an ounce of it.

  35. Leedsgunner

    “Look, how a coffee machine managed to motivate Theo Walcott. If a coffee machine could do that for Theo — can you imagine what a proper manager could do for him”

    Podcast… priceless absolutely priceless!

  36. shaun

    we should start a Wenger for china fund for charity and give it to a childrens charity or some kids who really really need help . I am telling you, buy Wenger a ticket to china and the rest goes to charity , the banners should not say enough is enough or Wenger out they should say WENGER TO CHINA and will cause an internet smash hit and do some very needy kids some good at the same time

  37. vicky

    I think Wenger will extend his contract unless his position becomes absolutely untenable as in say we finish 5th/6th. Arsenal have a knack of going on a good run once we are out of EPL title race and CL. We are still in the FA cup. Wenger would be desperately hoping we either go on a great run in EPL or at least we win the FA cup. If neither happens, he may sign a big name early in the summer to assuage the fan base. He still has a few tricks to pull out of his hat to survive.

    Why do I think he won’t leave unless we are really in a dire situation ? Kroenke and Wenger himself are the only two people who are the decision makers. Kroenke is so ever willing to continue with Wenger and Wenger still has nothing else in his life except Arsenal. Nothing that the media, pundits, former players and fans say has any bearing on Wenger’s fate.

  38. Red&White4life

    “I’d also imagine a man of his intelligence knows that he no longer has what it takes to cut it at the highest level.”

    Pedro, “a man of his intelligence” would have known it was time to leave when he won the last FA Cup.

  39. Leedsgunner

    Kieran Gibbs — Under the radar mistakes… getting sent off for looking a bit like Chamberlain and not fighting it… the podcast gets better and better! :)

  40. Red&White4life

    “If anything, he loves the club too much.”
    Beautifully said, that’s absolutely the case.

    I really don’t understand him, he had the opportunity to leave on a high note after winning our last FA cup, but he’s so stubborn that he has prefered to rush right into the wall.

    I know he’s suffering a lot, but he can only blame himself for that.

  41. seg

    I don’t agree Wenger loves this club more than the fans. After all, he getting paid to be here, getting paid well, while the fans are paying to be here! And make no mistake about it, most people would profess their undying love for anything that pays so much while expecting so little.

  42. underrated Coq

    “In the last 20 clubs in Europe, only three clubs have played every season in the Champions League – Arsenal, Bayern Munich and Real Madrid. If everything is not perfect, not everything is wrong”

    How can someone who has never actually won the thing speak in this haughty manner?

    The more he speaks, the more I subscribe to Gambon’s theory, that Arsene is a clinical mentalcase.

  43. Thank you and goodnight

    The man’s a fucking lunatic. I have managed more European games for Arsenal than they managed previously in their history
    FFS you senile fraud. So fucking what. A better manager would of won at least 1 CL. FFS if it’s death being the only way he’ll leave the club then I’m on the grim reapers side…..#goteamreaperanddoit

  44. Leedsgunner

    He loves the club too much?

    Please.

    The club has nothing to do with it. He loves himself too much. If he loved the club he would have done the decent thing this morning and said, something like…

    “I love the club, I’ve brought so much success to the club but I have to say I’ve also embarrassed the club too. Because I love the club, I’ve come to the decision that I’ve taken the club as far as I can. I’ve tried my best. I’ve given my all, and where I’ve failed, I hope Gooners everywhere can forgive me.”

    Nope.

    What did he actually say?

    “What is important is that the club makes the right decision for the future. I do not work here for 20 years not to care for this club. ‘I had many opportunities to go somewhere, but I care about this club and their future. The club needs to be in safe hands….

    Wenger also warned Arsenal followers to be careful what they wish for and that there is no guarantee of success if he leaves.

    ‘That’s an eternal debate when you’re somewhere for a long. Even if i go, Arsenal will not win every game in the future. It’s not like before I arrived Arsenal won five European cups. ‘They’d played around ten European games before me…”

    Please. Don’t tell me he loves the club, it’s all about him., him, him.

  45. Rambo Ramsey

    Coq, more a psychopath than a mentalcase

    a person with a psychopathic personality, which manifests as amoral and antisocial behavior, lack of ability to love or establish meaningful personal relationships, extreme egocentricity, failure to learn from experience, etc

    Psychopaths display different traits depending on their disorder, but common signs include superficial charm, a grandiose notion of self-worth, the need for stimulation and impulsiveness, pathological lying, the ability to manipulate others and a lack of remorse and empathy
    ———————————————

    Yep, ticks all the boxes!

  46. Wallace

    outside of Mourinho, who’s an undeniable c*nt, there’s barely a person in football with a bad word for Wenger. is he bribing everyone to keep quiet about his egomania? I guess he’s got the money to give it a go….

  47. Dissenter

    The Trump – Wenger comparison is quite apt
    “No matter what happens I will manage next season. Is it here or somewhere else, that’s absolutely for sure.”

    Wenger really has no shame
    Wenger has no self-reflection
    Wenger has no contrition
    Wenger needs to be disgraced on the way out.
    He deserves all the abuse he gets.

  48. GoonerInNY

    Pedro,

    I wish I could be as optimistic as you, but nothing Wenger has ever done tells me he has an ounce of self-awareness, and the presser only shows that to be true.

    I won’t believe he is going until a new manager is hired. I also think even if he agrees to a new manager, he’ll stay on in a position of power.

    Also, a few years ago, I would have agreed with you about the tribute. But after the last damaging few years and his awful attitude, nothing but a “don’t let the door hit you on the way out” is appropriate.

    Oh, and I refuse to give a click to Untold. What did the delusional assholes have to say?

  49. WrightIsGod

    Two seasons ago and last season I came on here slating Ozil because I didn’t think he gave enough to the overall balance. I said at the time I expect more for £42m and he wasn’t what we needed at the time – that being a new striker.

    All I got was I apparently didn’t understand football and I was hung up on the price tag. I think now we see the truth. If anyone has paid attention I’ve been slating Ozil all season too, but hey.

    Watching people on here yearning for Gibbs to start over Monreal even though Monreal has been the second best defender (Bellerin runs but is not a great defender yet, maybe when he leaves us) we’ve had the last few seasons… Gibbs is the biggest pussbag of the last 10 years only rivalled closely by Walcott.

    I just think our fanbase is cosmopolitan, footballing hipsters who think they know football but don’t. People that laud the likes of Rosicky without actually looking at his stats to realise he was another weak flop at Arsenal. Oh but “I loved Rosicky” I hear. He hardly bloody played.

    Ramsey, Wilshere, overrated tosh, or at least whilst playing for Wenger for sure. Cazorla is the second coming…..no… he is quality but there is no way that little man can last a season in the middle of the pitch, he’d get bullied very easily over time, but no apparently his injury is the reason our midfield is poor… BS.

    My top 3 pussbags of all time to have played for Arsenal:

    Ozil
    Gibbs
    Walcott

    Two of them have worn the Arsenal arm band.

  50. Thank you and goodnight

    Surprised Wenger didn’t also say……

    “I have presided over more humiliations for Arsenal than any other manager in their history”

    Fucking cunt. Respect my fucking arse. Cunt

  51. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    Brexit referendum success and Wenger gone in the space of a year – surely not!

    In the press conference Wenger said that he would carry on managing somewhere else – this is great news as it means he won’t be meddling upstairs.

  52. Sir Chips

    After listening to what he had to say in the press conference, I concluded that he isn’t going anywhere. He was pretty defensive about his record. He still feels he can do it. My money is on another contract being announced on the back of a few decent results towards the end of March.

  53. OleGunner

    Hmm after reading Wenger’s press conference statements, that does not sound like a man going anywhere.

    I think it’s nailed on that he stays no matter how the season pans out. If we do terribly i.e. drop out the top 4, he will say I want to make things “right”

    Get 4th and finish above Spuds, enough docile Arsenal fans will be deeming that good enough for an extra 2-3 year contract extension.

    Quite honestly no amount of fan revolt/anger and press battering will get him to go. He alone simply decides when he’s had enough.

  54. Carts

    “How can someone who has never actually won the thing speak in this haughty manner?”

    Spot on.

    Wenger is dillusional. How no journalist rebutted that pathetic statement, I’ll never know.

  55. Dissenter

    Coq,
    Why didnt they remind him that Bayern and Madrid have won the Cl it at least twice in the last the last 20 years.
    Wenger still holds this dated view that participation in the CL is a badge of honor in itself.
    The domestic revenues from the Premier league has made CL qualification unnecessary.
    We can do without CL football for 3 seasons under a new manager and I would complain.

  56. Ishola70

    Wenger wants to put things in perspective. Perspective eh? It’s just all spin again from him again isn’t it.

    Perspective he wants relating to the Bayern humiliation. It’s alright he says they are a great team. Humiliation can be understood. Just like just over a year ago when it was another 5-1 defeat.

    Perspective he says when he made the cheap point about him having so many more matches in European Cup/Champions League matches than any other Arsenal manager. All those matches on the coat tails of just finishing in the top 4 places in the league.

    He puts out these little morsels of spin for his advocates to seize upon and relay. And of course they will seize upon them with gusto.

  57. Rambo Ramsey

    Wallace, have many people publicly said bad things about Mourinho’s personality? no? does that mean he’s not a C*nt?

    you talk like a simpleton sometimes, Wenger’s egomania is evident in a lot of his press interviews.

  58. Rainman

    “Wenger loves Arsenal as much as I do and you do. If anything, he loves the club too much. ”

    Love Pedro and love the blog, but that is utter shite. We are emotionally invested, we pay money to watch, buy merchandise and the rest. We love the club.

    Arsene definitely does NOT love the club as much as we do. If he loved the club as much as we did then he would have packed it in ages ago, not stubbornly cling to a position even tho it’s clear that it’s not working out.

    Having said that I understand why Pedro would say shite like that, he has a wide audience to cater to so I guess it’s cool to throw the pro Wenger folks a bone every now and then. But I’m pretty sure he deep down he doesn’t believe that.

  59. OleGunner

    I think Wenger also took a dig at us fans when he said that ” it’s not like Arsenal were winning European cups before my arrival.”

    Very much a be grateful for what you have, sort of statement.
    Ironically he ain’t done jack shit in Europe so dunno what he’s playing at.

  60. Rambo Ramsey

    Surprised Wenger didn’t also say……“I have presided over more humiliations for Arsenal than any other manager in their history”
    —————————————-

    Hahaha, TYAG, Brilliant!

  61. Ishola70

    Oh and it was cringeworthy and embarrassing of him to put Arsenal’s name alongside that of Bayern and Real Madrid in relation to the Champions League.

    False grandeur again and those advocates of his just love that false grandeur.

    They can all play along with it. This false grandeur.

  62. WrightIsGod

    Pedro

    This loving for Gazidis you have is incredible. He has not shown his credentials to us once other than signing some commercials that anyone one in his position should have been expected to do. He’s so weak he doesn’t even have the ability to even suggest to Wenger it’s over.

    This ‘easy’ transition you talk of for the new manager is nonsense. This isn’t Chelsea or City who have an infrastructure built so that a new manager can just walzt in and concentrate on the training field… We need a brand new never been done before DoF, all new coaches, all new scouting, all new board and even imo all new players as the ones we have are suffering from specialist in failure syndrome. We are basically talking at the very least 90% overhaul of people working within our club.

    Wenger has left us in a ditch. Destroyed his legacy.

  63. Cesc Appeal

    It really is amazing, listening to the Arseblog podcast, that people can say the lack of infrastructure at the club is worrying, it is ‘easy to say with hindsight’ but maybe a DoF should have been brought in a couple of years ago.

    Hindsight, hindsight?

    I bet that Gunnerblog author was one of those arguing against a DoF because ‘look at what happened with Baldini and Spurs’ and that Wenger won’t work with one so it would hurt the harmony at the club.

    The reason we don’t have infrastructure is because of Wenger, that then cannot be the reason he gets to stay on, because that leads to Wenger in perpetuity, ‘we have no DoF so we need to keep a manager who won’t entertain the idea of a DoF.’

  64. Guns of Hackney

    Ummm…as far as I am concerned, Arsene is still going to be Arsenal manager next season.

    Use your brains people. He said, “he’ll make a decision in April or may” which in itself is arrogant beyond words. So, if he leaves, that gives us maybe two months to find and source a new manager, bed in said manager and basically get a new fucking team by August? Please!

    Wenger then goes on to say he’ll be managing either “at Arsenal or somewhere else next season”. So…what other team in the world is waiting on him until he decides what he is doing at Arsenal? It’s bullshit. And, does that mean he’s already been in contact with another club regarding a managerial position…if so, what the fuck are Arsenal waiting on. Sack the idiot.

    Arsene is testing the water to see if anyone still loves him at Arsenal. He wants to be fawned over and told how great he is. And trust me, there’s enough Arsenal pricks out there to do it.

    He’s staying. Get used to it.

  65. Paulinho

    “March/April”

    11:59pm on April 30th Wenger changes his mind.

    “I have decided i will make a decision at the end of the season.”

  66. WengerEagle

    ‘He knows the vast majority of the fans are complete morons who would’ve forgotten what they think of all this by then.’

    Yep, our fanbase has arguably the lowest IQ in the footy world.

    More than half of them put into practice Einstein’s theory on insanity on a annual basis.

  67. Cesc Appeal

    The real worry as well is not just that Wenger stays on, but the alternative that he goes and the club take the easiest, laziest, maintain the status quo to an extent option of moving him to being the DoF.

    We are f****d for the foreseeable if that happens, look how old our board members are anyway, we could have a Wengerised Arsenal for another couple of decades if that happens.

    Howe as manager, Henry as assistant and Wenger as DoF, that would be completely in keeping with the club’s current style, just try to hide the problem and pile on more sentimental blackmail.

  68. WrightIsGod

    Pedro

    You also haven’t addressed how before the Watford game you cited “exiting times ahead” because we beat Saints second eleven in the FA Cup. Embarrassing.

    Even before the Bayern game you posted that we were going to win. WTF?

    Now you still continue this Gazidis bumming about how hw has a plan to take Arsenal into the future.

    PEDRO I ask you this. If there really is a plan why the hell is that contract for an extension on the table in the first place. What that tells me is that even IF there is a plan it must be plan B and Wenger will forever more be plan A because it’s convenient and easy.

    He can’t make the tough decisions or statements. That isn’t a CEO I can get behind anytime soon.

  69. WengerEagle

    Paulinho

    We’re a bit fucked when even the so called die-hard ‘WOB’s’ like Troopz get butterflies in their stomach upon spending a little face time with the old git.

  70. Park Chu-young's left testicle

    After victory over Sutton he will insist that we judge him at the end of the season.

    Cue a spirited, second leg performance against Bayern, a cup final and a fluky fourth place.

  71. WengerEagle

    ‘ He said, “he’ll make a decision in April or may” which in itself is arrogant beyond words. ‘

    Sure is.

    He’d have been sacked long ago at any of United, City or Chelsea.

  72. Paulinho

    WE – Yeah.

    Wenger ” I bought him (Holding)”

    Cue the Troopz guy creasing up like he’s at a Chris Rock stand up show.

  73. Rambo Ramsey

    ‘Wenger just gave the fans and media a middle finger.
    Watch out cos they’re coming back to bite him in the arse.’

    He’s been doing the same for years and getting away with it. even now look after his self-aggrandizing interview, you got folk like Wallace pretending Wenger is some upstanding class act. fuck me, we’re doomed

  74. Wallace

    WE

    “Ask Jacqui Oatley what she makes of Wenger.”

    your preternatural calm during trying times is a gift from God, WengerEagle. don’t think less of others who don’t possess it.

  75. Vince

    Just saw some shocking stats this morning. I’ve never understood the noise against Coquelin, the evoke team is dysfunctional and singling people out is idiotic. So far you’ve not seen him concede penalties/red cards on a regular basis or fear to shoot or shoot like shit regularly like Ozil, I think players deserve some slack.
    Back to Coquelin compared to the team against Bayern:
    6 – Passes by Francis Coquelin in 77 minutes against Bayern Munich.
    11 – Passes by Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain in 90 minutes against Bayern Munich.
    25 – Number of passes by Xhaka in 90 minutes. Led all arsenal players.
    So in isolation Coquelin may look bad but compared to others the outrage seems OTT.

  76. Vince

    And even more outrageous:
    PREMIER LEAGUE 2016/2017 – Per 90min metrics
    ==============================FRANCIS COQUELIN: GAMES: 21 MINS PLAYED: 1433
    VS
    N’GOLO KANTÉ GAMES: 24 MINS PLAYED: 2148TOTAL SCORE: 21.22 VS 19.81PASS COMPLETION: 88% VS 88%KEY PASSES: 0.82 VS 0.67CHANCES CREATED: 0.82 VS 0.67SUCCESSFUL TAKE ONS (%) 88.24% VS 72.97%TACKLES WON: 2.39 VS 2.26AERIAL DUELS WON: 66.67% VS 36.96%INTERCEPTIONS: 3.08 VS 2.35BLOCKS: 0.31 VS 0.08CLEARANCES: 1.63 VS 1.34ERRORS LEADING TO GOAL: 0 VS 0

    Maybe we are just aiming our ire at the wrong person. From the above its obvious that teams set out properly make each individual look better.

  77. Leedsgunner

    I’m beyond angry now. Just fed up with how our club is being ridiculed. It’s crisis after crisis… week after week… and Wenger’s response?

    “I’m not going anywhere and you can’t make me.”

    When did Wenger change from being an employee to a dictator of Arsenal Football Club?

    At least Americans can vote their presidents out — we are stuck with him because our Board is paralysed with fear of the unknown.

  78. WengerEagle

    Paulinho

    Haha and there’s another video where he’s fawning over Wenger and taking selfies too.

    He’s here to stay into his 70’s realistically when you have doughnuts like this Troopz chap flip-flopping by the week, he probably has more Arsene posters on his wall than Ty does.

  79. Pedro

    WiG, no offence mate, but your view on the transition is based on absolutely zero. My view is based on conversations with people in the game, at the club and having spent years writing about this week in week out on the daily.

    Pipe down with aggression my way unless you have an argument based on something more substantial than gut feel.

  80. WrightIsGod

    When Guardiola left Barca and originally wanted Arsenal. Klopp originally wanted Arsenal.

    We resigned Wenger.

    Even now when we are supposedly shopping around we’ve been in touch with Edie Howe.

    And yet Pedro has faith in Gazidis? Give me a break.

  81. WengerEagle

    Wallace

    There’s losing your cool and there’s completely turning on a reporter just doing her job, it’s the only time I’ve ever seen him really be put to the test in a post-match interview and that’s his demeanour. He tried to bully her out of asking him the tough questions but she stood tall and made him look the fool that he is.

    We didn’t even lose the match, imagine if she interviewed him after the 6-0 at SB?

  82. underrated Coq

    “Even if i go, Arsenal will not win every game in the future. It’s not like before I arrived Arsenal won five European cups. They’d played around ten European games before me…”

    Did Wenger really say this? Shocks me beyond words. He basically slapped down the football club and then trod on it, just to big himself up.

    No person would last in a job if he were to take a shit on the company name. This is extraordinary man

  83. WrightIsGod

    Pedro

    Gut feel. Gut feel. Are you actually having a laugh? I think the last few seasons is enough evidence to know we are dealing with a gutless board with a gutless CEO who doesn’t actually know what he’s on about.

    And so I ask again: If there really is a plan why the hell is that contract for an extension on the table in the first place?

    What that tells me is that even IF there is a plan it must be plan B and Wenger will forever more be plan A because it’s convenient and easy. Should I get behind that way of thinking? Is that a CEO to be proud of?

    Peds do you want me to show you articles I began writing on Bleacher Report when I was a kid like 7 years ago before I even knew what Le Grove was? This isn’t about whose dong is bigger mate. I’m nothing aggressive I’m calling you out.

    What happened to the “exciting times” mantra though Peds…. if you are unable to answer basics without crying wolf you’re no better than the great Wenger himself.

  84. Arsene's Nurse

    Wenger, who has been offered a new contract to extend his reign, said: “No matter what happens, I will manage next season, whether it’s here or somewhere else. That’s absolutely for sure.”

    Confirming he gave an interview in which he revealed he would “probably” decide his Arsenal future within the next two months, the Frenchman said there had been no prospect of him walking away after Wednesday night’s humbling.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/02/17/arsene-wenger-arsenal-press-conference-live/

    They are going to have to carry him out toes first – he isn’t going anywhere.

  85. Pedro

    WiG, don’t give me your bleacher report bullshit. You don’t understand the basic structure of the club and how it works. Which is evident because you seem to think Ivan has the power to fire Wenger.

    Come back to call me out when you’ve got the basics in place. Then I can answer your questions.

  86. Cheslin Coetzee

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with Arsene, right he is stubborn, right he believes in his way is the right way, but most successfull managers are the same.
    He cant always win, he will lose, but you surely cant replace wenger with Simeone, he is currently competing with two not experienced coaches in the la liga (Zidan and Luis Enrique) And he cannot win the la liga, how the f%$#@ is he going to come to the Premier League and win it with Mourhino, Guardiola and Konte in the same league with a squad which i think qualitywise and Focus wise is below Athletico Madrd.

    So guys be Realistic please if you replace Wenger replace him with a big gun, a proven winner not a Simeone, because that for me is settling for less and we cant afford that, we already settle for less when it comes to Players, I am not ready to settle for less on the coach front too.

    Change is what we need, maybe not a change in Manager, but a Change in our Transfer thinking wage structure, because as long as our wage structure is what it is you cant really sign quality players because they sure as hell not going to come to Arsenal for the beautiful football (that is lost) and they not going to come for Charity, at the Moment we all know why big players join Arsenal on a minimal wage….. Arsene Wenger. they want to play under him.

    conclusion: Gazidis pic ur lazy ass up, use your connections assist wenger in signing the players he needs f@#%# your Budget coz what we have is a good manager, who just needs a bit help (Money) if he can manage Top four with a bunch of inconsistant ENglish players (Walcotte, wilshere, Gibbs, CHambo) he can win the league laugh laugh with two or 3 more top class talents.

    Gooooner For life.

  87. Paulinho

    Of course Arsene, not long before you came a team actually had to be champions to get in the European Cup, so that expains that.

    I still think when he leaves he will disappear and you won’t see him at the Emirates again or hear him speak a kind word about the club or fans. He will be embittered and detached.

  88. Leedsgunner

    Pedro

    I respect your devotion to the blog and I understand you have contacts in the game… fair enough.

    However, I hope you don’t end up with eggs on your face in placing so much hope in Gazidas… honestly?

    Listen to what he has said on record.

    “”This club has over 120 years of history and if you’re looking at where we are and how we’re doing at this period of our development you have to say it is one of the special times, one of the golden times. I hope we don’t forget to appreciate that.”
    (2009)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/arsenal/5475329/Arsenal-fans-told-by-Ivan-Gazidis-theyve-never-had-it-so-good.html

    “I think that’s a little unfair to say that every year you hear this. I know what my messaging has been every year and I’ve been very careful about it. The fact is this year we are beginning to see something we have been planning for for some time, which is the escalation in our financial firepower.”
    (2013)

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/arsenal-chief-ivan-gazidis-qa-1936217

    Then suddenly it all changes three years later…

    “The big clubs can’t financially bully the smaller clubs in the way they used to, so I think a lot of the differentiators between clubs become more subtle now.

    It’s not just about spending money but about how you spend your money and doing it wisely. It’s about having a strong core philosophy and values within the club that players buy into and our fans can be proud of.”
    (2016)

    http://www.101greatgoals.com/news/ivan-gazidis-arsenal-to-follow-leicesters-transfers-strategy-espn/

    Oh, and this nugget…

    ““We believe that we will be able to achieve enormous things with Freddy,” MLS Deputy Commissioner Ivan Gazidis said at the time, adding that Adu was the best young player in the world — not just in the U.S.”

    Freddy Adu, where is he now? Lol.

    http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2007/08/20070813/This-Weeks-News/Four-Years-Ago-Freddy-Adu-Was-Mlss-Marketing-Jewel-Today-Hes-Out-Of-The-League.aspx

    Gazidas is part of the problem not the solution. Sorry.

  89. qna

    Pedro: My view is based on conversations with people in the game, at the club and having spent years writing about this week in week out on the daily.Pipe down with aggression my way unless you have an argument based on something more substantial than gut feel.

    Is this a quote from John Cross or one of the many other media people you have been slating.

    If your information base is based on other british based football media people I would take that as a sign as none of the people you talk to about football have a clue about anything but how to achieve mediocre level football performance.

    You mentioned it yourself in the podcast. Jens Lehmans comments about English teams applies right through English football knowledge and understanding in all facets.

    This was Wengers great advantage when he first came before he got assimilated and Briti-fied.

    Its astounding that you view Arsenal as having performed well commercially given their relative brand and Gazidis has failed miserably. Gazidis doesnt affect our on field performance but he is definately condtantly behind the curve and this costs us in the type of top level striker or goal keeper or midfeilder that we can afford.

  90. WengerEagle

    ‘And he cannot win the la liga, how the f%$#@ is he going to come to the Premier League and win it with Mourhino, Guardiola and Konte in the same league with a squad which i think qualitywise and Focus wise is below Athletico Madrd.’

    Erm, he did win La Liga. Just 3 years ago in fact compared to the 13 years since we won the league.

    And he’s competing with vastly superior sides in Real Madrid and Barcelona. We’re talking about the European Champions for the last 3 seasons running between the two of those clubs.

  91. WrightIsGod

    Pedro

    You are deflecting. I completely understand your mate ‘Ivan’ does not have the power to fire Wenger. That in itself is weak, and so the manager is weak, and so the coaching staff is weak, and so the players are weak. Seems to me to feed from top to bottom. I see the structure, I don’t see the evidence that there is enough being done to actually change the status quo.

    What is the point of pretending to organise change if you are overseeing a contract extension that ensures there is none?

  92. Jamal

    “In 20 years only 3 clubs have managed to play in the Champions League.. Arsenal, Bayern and Real Madrid”

    The pointless stats he comes out with!! Can we please compare how many times each of those clubs have won the Champions league?? What a fucking deluded old fool.

  93. Bamford10

    Someone should have thrown a shoe or two at him during that press conference. He deserved it.

    The fact that he mentioned managing at another club is enormous: that he may need to go is clearly on his mind and a real possibility.

    Keep up the pressure up people, and carry spare shoes with you at all times. 😉

  94. Pedro

    QNA, I don’t speak to journalists, and again, I think you need to put the Arsenal brand in perspective. We’ve never won a European cup. We’ve never had a United level of sustained success. The work they’ve done to have us where we are is good.

    Brands do not spend money propping up teams that don’t win. Simple as that.

  95. Pedro

    WIG, Ivan is weak, and that is the point. Wenger and Stan are the power. When Wenger goes, so does the power vacuum. Then we will see a new Arsenal.

  96. Dissenter

    Did any one rad the comments from Ozil’s agent.
    Culled from the BBC
    “Against Bayern, the 20 passes that Ozil completed was the same amount as home goalkeeper Manuel Neuer.

    “Bayern had 74% possession,” said Sogut, who is Ozil’s lawyer and representative. “How can someone in the No.10 position create chances if you don’t have the ball?

    “In these games people usually target a player who cost a lot of money and earns a lot of money – that is Mesut. But he can’t be always be the scapegoat. That’s not fair.”

    It’s a shit fest right now and it’s clear that Wenger has lost the dressing room
    It’s dog-eat-dog now.

  97. Leedsgunner

    Pedro

    Cracking podcast — the best yet… had me laughing all the way through.

    By your own admission, Gazidas is weak. Why do we want such a weak individual hiring our next manager?

  98. Pedro

    Leeds, I’d give him a chance. What would you have him do?

    ‘Sorry boys, I’m quitting my £2.2m job a year to make a principled point about Arsene Wenger’

    No one does that. It’s the best job in the world. You wait until the old man does one, then you make things happen.

    This ‘attack Ivan’ makes little sense to me. Stan and Wenger control the club, once Wenger goes, the party begins.

  99. Leedsgunner

    Dissenter

    In other clubs when the manager loses the dressing room, they give him the Board’s vote of confidence — and then promptly fire him before the next game.

    What do we do? Allow Wenger to lecture us on how he’s continually qualified for Europe as if that counts for a can of beans…

  100. Pedro

    Thanks on the podcast Leeds, I think they’re getting more listenable. It’s tough putting your voice down to not sound like a twat

  101. Ishola70

    Coetzee as well as being a bit lost on the comments about Simeone the wage structure at the club that you are moaning about is Wenger’s doing.

    Gazidis so regrets saying those words years back about competing with Bayern Munich. The club stance is now and will be in the future get things in perspective. Perspective. Wenger told us today get some fvcking perspective. We are just old humble Arsenal. Perspective please.

  102. WrightIsGod

    Pedro

    So you are saying that Ivan is currently obsolete. Not really helping your argument.

    Again another question you are avoiding, I’ll repeat:

    What is the point of pretending to organise change if you are overseeing a contract extension that ensures there is none?

  103. GoonerInNY

    WiG,

    Short answer: Wenger is in charge of all things football, reporting directly to Kroenke. Gazidis is in charge of businesses operations, reporting directly to Kroenke. Blaming Gazidis for Wenger’s actions is like blaming the head of marketing for problems in production.

  104. Dissenter

    Pedro,
    Your pollyanish views about Gazidis view aren’t tethered on reality.
    Gazidis resume was quite thin before he came to Arsenal.
    The biggest part of his experience was a a nascent MLS vice-presidency that carried a weak job description. He also helped organize the CONCACAF gold cup.

    You talk to people in the club?
    So does John Cross and all the ex-footballers who dine with insiders.
    You met Gazidis a few times and was impressed. There are many car salesmen who will still sell you a lemon after meeting with you a dozen times.

    There’s nothing about Gazidis record that suggest he’ll do all the things you keep writing about.
    Yes It’s your considered subjective opinion that he might be good enough. You need to acknowledge it as such and stop using ITK status to beat down criticism.

  105. Ishola70

    Is there going to be another song intro soon though Pedders?

    Is nice and all to promote a local North London band but I would think that song is going to grate with enough people soon enough.

    What music genre would it come under? Twee 60s pop revival? lol.

  106. WrightIsGod

    GoonerInNY

    Sorry you must not have been paying attention. Where have I said I blame Gazidis for Wenger’s actions?

  107. Guns of Hackney

    Reading the comments on here, one can draw a few conclusions:

    1. The club, including the support is rotten.
    2. The CEO *clears throat* is powerless.
    3. The manager (an employee) calls all the shots.
    4. Fear has totally gripped the fan base. Fear of the unknown (post Wenger) and fear of the malaise we are currently in.
    5. The Arsenal ‘brand’ or USP is…answers on a postacard.
    6. On the pitch, our football is bland.
    7. Off the pitch, we are all over the place. Players are bored, unmotivated and dropping snide comments left right and centre. Ex pros are circling for blood.
    8. Empty seats. See above for the reasons.
    9. Im struggling for ideas…
    10. I’m out.