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A lot of debate went on yesterday after I said I was disappointed the crowd booed Arshavin before the game and the players at half time.
Some Suggested the booing motivated the team, some suggested it’s the fans right, some were in agreement that booing doesn’t have a place mid-game. As far as I’m concerned, there’s no right or wrong opinion. It’s easy for me to say I don’t accept the dissent in the ground because I’m privileged enough to be able to dissent to a mass audience every day.
However, some people need to get some serious perspective… we won at the weekend. We qualified. We’re through. Wishing we’d lost and harping on about the potential disgrace of nearly losing is ridiculous. Correlating being anti-booing with being pro-Wenger is equally illogical.
The simple question I have this morning is what is the right answer? Everyone has different views, that’s the same in any crisis, the question is, how do we seriously move towards a point where we’re listened to? Where the infighting stops and the fans move towards a common goal? How do we make Ivan take notice… or more importantly, take action. In fact, is it even Ivan we want to notify of our displeasure, or is it faraway Stan?
What exactly do the fans want? Is it removal of the manager? Is it acknowledgement things have to change or is it simply a bit of value for money?
One thing is for sure, the bickering and arguing online makes it tiresome to be a Gooner at the moment. It’s the same in the ground. Slanging and counter slanging goes on all game at the moment and it makes for a horrible day out. What we need is a united voice to air our grievances. What we need to know is what are the supporter groups doing? The AST have been pretty clear, they won’t discuss the managers position publicly until the end of the season. That doesn’t mean you can’t raise the issue at the next meeting on Monday the 13th Feb.
What are AISA, Red Action and Black Scarf doing? Have you asked them? Are any of them taking a lead that suits your disposition better? Start a debate… Goonerdom is a rabble of infighters at the moment and it’s not healthy and it’s not enjoyable. The fans haven’t been this at odds with the club in my life time… and that’s the fault of one man and his team that let him get away with it. That doesn’t mean we should abstain from doing something to rectify it. It’s the club we love more than anything and being counter productive because of passion over spill isn’t the way forward.
It’s easy to piss and moan about how right you were, or how much of a fan you are, but if you’re not doing anything proactive, you’re just as bad as the person sitting in the ground in silence. The board don’t care about boos if you’re in the ground! They probably don’t care if you moan online.
Only one thing strikes a chord at our club… money.
So what’s the answer?
Eisfeld…
Apparently we’ve made our first January move. A German 19 year old reserve who is leaving Dortmund because competition is rife.
Sure he might be amazing, sure we might have nabbed a deal… but if Klopp is half the manager his record suggests, you’d imagine he’d be reticent to let a top drawer player leave for £400k. I might be wrong, but the fact we’re taking a Dortmund reject on at that price when our youth team wage bill probably exceeds their first team equivalent isn’t particularly inspiring. It doesn’t say a lot about our expensively assembled academy does it?
‘The teenager’s development has been hindered by keee problems – he tore his anterior cruciate ligament in 2009 – and he will be put through his paces at the club’s London Colney training ground before signing a long-term contract.’
We have major squad issues and we’re sorting them with kids again. Injury prone kids! It’s almost perverse. It’s like a massive slap in the face for all the fans who know there is £50m in the bank. Maybe he’ll be another Oxo, but we’ll have to wait 6 months to find out. We know a few things for sure, he’s no where near the level of Gotze or Kagawa and there’s a risk he might be a crock. Why take a punt in the most important season of your career?
This feels very Bischoff-esque? Another dodgy transfer no one really probed the club about. Why would we sign the equivalent of a cripple who hadn’t played in years for a season when we’re Arsenal? How much was that deal worth? Who underwrote that? Who questioned the wage efficiency of that disaster?
Wenger does himself no favours, it feels like he’s trying to get the sack sometimes. His obsession with kids is damaging the team’s top 4 prospects. What must the players think?
One thing is for sure, I think if today ends player-less and the season fizzles out into nothingness, we’ll see a change of management in the summer. I still think we’ll make top four though… then Gazidis will have a tough decision because the Americans don’t like empty seats and they know if they serve up another summer like the last, we’ll be looking at a 60% filled stadium.
Robin cleared
I didn’t even see the incident (How Wenger), but apparently the FA have and they’ve cleared him of any wrong doing. Superb… a four game ban would have been awkward. Awkward like introducing your new 19 year old German saviour to the first team dressing room.
Miyachi Off?
Ryo might be off to Bolton today. That would be a lovely move for him, he’s going to be a good player, but it does beg the question, why did Wenger sell him in as a first team player this year? We get to the end of the summer and he tells us we have loads of players, then we get to Feb and realise hardly any of them are ready. Anyway, if he gets his move, good luck… hopefully Owen will work some Jack magic on him.
Transfer countdown!
It’s the final day of a most uneventful transfer window. The most likely signings will be a couple of kids, though don’t be surprised if we ship in a last minute loan deal or a surprise signing.
It won’t be Podolski as he’s injured! However, it might be Gourcuff who was benched at the weekend, or maybe Tevez who Geoff demanded the other day. If West Ham are sniffing around, surely we should be? That Granero chap from Madrid looks a bit handy as well… with starts at a premium maybe he’s someone we’re checking out? No one can tell me there aren’t deals to be had in Europe today… if you’re interested of course.
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For me Goon has hit the nail on the head far more than all the other AA posts. The biggest problem for him is simply that teams worked him out. You could see it even toward the end of that first awesome half season if I’m honest…
Another notable fact Fynn said, is that the financial restrictions bounding us to spend big were the first 2-3 years, and to be honest those were the years where we performed better and our last chance of making an EPL title was then, in the 2007/2008 season
Since then we’re in a constant decline, albeit our bank account is hitting new heights year after year
AJ, you’d really have to be a retard to properly fall for it.
I should have put Arsene’s name in there instead.
Very clever tool though……….just did a Spurs fan by sending it to him with gareth Bale as the transfer
have we signed anyone?
When you realise you are being taken for a mug you take action…eventually. I stopped commuting to work by train because Network South East were blatantly taking the piss and providing a poor service. I now cycle. I no longer attend home games for the same reason.
Thats what capitalism does when its unchecked. It forces you to make changes.
Dale-Under normal circumstances yes.But over the last 3 years we have seen the likes of eboue,Nasri,rosicky(rarely) walcott etc play there.
Fucking hell, Wardo returns?!
Seems Spuds submitted £18m bid for Remy which got turned down.
He is decent but at that price I would much rather go for Reus. He is faster & already better IMO, much better finisher, Remy’s heading is better though. I think I would take Podolski over Remy too. When we played Cologne in preseason Podolski impressed me much more than when we played Marseille in the CL.
Wonder if they went for Saha before or after Remy, probably only after.
Arry & strikers is like Wenger & unknown 19 year olds.
ardo
The sad fact is that the most inevitable transfer in Arsenals history is due to happen at the end of the season, and it involves the player you just joked about.
We have become so embarrassing that we all know he will leave, followed by the likes of Vermaelen & Wilshere in the following seasons.
Wengers quest to make us Everton is complete.
Albo-At the end of the first half awesome season wenger had decided to switch to the useless 4-3-3 formation.I am pretty sure cesc played behind the striker in the fa cup and UCL semis and RVP played wide left where he failed spectacularly
(obviously Reus is off the table, shoulda woulda coulda…)
nishanth..that’s why I like to think we play 4-5-1, with Walcott playing further up and the left sided mid fielder withdraws back…when we used Nasri, he was proper mid field in advance, when we use Gervinho, it’s a proper 3 forward situation.
Nothing will change and we will only get worse, UNTIL WE REACT APPROPRIATELY.
There is a limit for everything. I am 100% sure there will be a fans protest against AFC and most of AKB will join as well (mark my word because I too was one of those idiot) then we’ll see the changes & success.
At the moment the club gets what they want – profit
Ivan -“We’re proud of the way we do things and we’re proud of the results that we’re able to produce from that.”
The club believes that fans will pay for players wages while they do the BUSINESS (buying potencial, creating star players & selling them to make profit)
They wont care about paying wages for those potencials because its paid by fans, thats the reason why ticket price goes up (develop the business with more potencials).
Ivan – “we do things based on a value system. We’re about creating star players, not about buying them.”
Who is Stan???
Does he visit stadium to watch matches???
He is a business man just want to make money
Ivan is not a footballing person he is hired for commercial development and his recent qoute proves that.
IT’S US – THE FANS NEED TO WAKE UP & REACT APPROPRIATELY.
WHY WASTE OUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO MAKE MILLIONAIRE A BILLIONAIRE?????????????????????
Dale- Ask Amy Lawrence if she had seen Arshavin play for Zenit for more than just a few games in the hole. In our system he is allowed move freely. This has nothing to do with excusing Wenger. Its just how it is. How hard it is to accept that? How in the world do you compare him to Bergkamp? He came through the Ajax system,one of the few players with perfect technical skills and had the personality to succeed at the highest level. Arsh came from Zenit,decent skill and has a stinking attitude.
Wonderboy tit?
CSKA wants Lazio to improve their offer for Honda. We should really give them Arsh & £3m in a swap deal for Honda…
With the squad we have at home we should play
RVP
Gerv Arsh OX
Arteta Song
But i doubt we will ever see that.Wenger will persist with Ramsey who will come good eventually but is not ready right now.
4, 3, 4, 3, 4, 4, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 3, Pre-Wenger 5, 12, 4, 10, 4, 1, 4, 1, 6, 4, 7, 7, 6, 10, 4, 3, 4, 7, 5, 8, 7, 16, 10, 2, 5, 1, 12, 4, 9, 7, 14, 13, 8, 7, 10, 11
This list is for the last 40 years in the top division. The last 15 seasons with Arsene; average league position is 2.5. No time in our history have we had a similar success over a 15 season time. The closest is the 15 seasons before WW2 with an average of 4.7
Many (younger?) fans have an unrealistic perception of the club´s success, especially if they grew up as supporters around the turn of the Millennium.
The club is in an ideal long-term situation; almost debt free and state-of-the art stadium and training facilities. IF UEFA imposes the FFP rules, many of the current successful clubs will struggle to qualify for e.g. the Champions League.
Our most important signing would be, IMO, David Dein. The partnership between him and AW seemed flawless and IF the fractions are able to overcome the difficulties a few years back, that would be my preferred signing.
hey Gambon,
The sad thing is if Arsenal do not buy what is required in the summer, RVP will be off……….
I use to think that if Cesc/Nasri left, Arsene would see the light and start spending to buy better talent rather than spending £200,000 then waiting 8 years for fruition. Seems that this is not the case though !!!!
Love Arsenal but jeez I am fcuked off with things atm mate!!
http://www.skybet.com/cms/breaking-transfer-news.shtm?name=Nelson+Vivas
just pulling your chain wonderboy for giving me a mild cardiac infarction for a few seconds!
Sorry Wardo.
Sorry Thomas, just trying to have a bit on fun on this shitty day.
T2T
I tell you what you twat.
Tell me when pre-96 we had £200m in the bank?
Tell me when we sold our 2 best players for £60m?
Tell me when we generated £100m from gate receipts alone?
Tell me when we were the 5th richest club in the world?
Much like our spastic of a manager we are stuck well and truely in the past.
Last time we were in serious trouble of missing out on champions league we spent 12 million on AA in jan transfer window.
This time in even more danger of missing out and we spend 400k on a crock german teenager.
What a fucked up club we’ve become
Wardo
Its too late for that re RVP, hes already gone.
Wenger has taken our club forward and to the next level.No doubt about that.But maybe its time we accept the fact that this is as far as he can take us.There has just been to many fuck ups from his part.Its time to leave before it gets worse
T2T
As for the rest of your post…..complete bullshit.
We have £230m debt, thats payable over 23 years, and we cand speed up repayments, so we wont be debt free as you put it til 2031.
State of the Art stadium……..whats the point?
State of the art training……erm, no. We have the same facilities as anyone else, everyone has caught up. Also we have the worst injury problems in the league, so what good is the traning ground doing us?
FFP…..do me a fucking faour.
And what you seem to be ignoring is that we are 3 months away from falling out of the CL, and we will never get back into it as we dont want to spend the money.
Arsenal is pretty much history
T2T, I see your point, but our most likely finishing spot this season is 5th/6th. Finishing top 4 will be a very tough job.
So if we finish out of CL spots we lose out on £25m. Knowing the board they would not like “losing” money. Also I cannot see RvP extending his contract if we dont have CL football. He is in his prime, he should be playing in a team where he could realistically help them win trophies. He cannot wait another 3-4 seasons for the likes of Jack, Oxo, Chezzer & etc to be at the required level. So we lose our best player in all likelyhood.
How many more points would we have dropped if we didnt have him this season? What are our chances of finishing top 4 next season then? Gazidis said we dont buy stars, I dont see a young promising star who can take over from RvP anytime soon. Campbell looks promising but he does not have a work permit and he is still way too young to do the job for us week-in & week-out. Chamakh & Park are not good enough and Theo is no CF.
The frustrating thing for all the fans is that we have been 2-3 top players away for 4-5 years now. I appreciate we could not spend big after the move, but EVERYONE says we have money to spend while staying self sustaining. Gazidis said it, the accounts says so, etc. If we got those 2-3 top players we could be winning trophies.
If we signed say Benzema, Hazard & a proper CB in 2008-9 then Cesc & Nasri would not have left. We would have been more solid at the back, Hazard & Benzema would have been a lot more affordable back then. We would not have been also-rans in all the competitions, we would have won a number of trophies. (maybe a proper older GK too from whom Chezzer could learn)
Wonderboy! Today should be renamed to Joke Tuesday.. Gazidis set us off with his City are jealous of us joke. Why wait till friday!
Now I’m off to find a spud friend and put in Modric in there!
Hi everyone… we’ll be moving the site over at 1500.
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Goodbye old Le Grove.
Truly hasn’t got an ‘e’ in it.
Seriously, if it’s not clear now, when will it be ffs?
This stadium was NOT built for us to compete with the footballing world’s elte, it was built so that an elite few, and that includes our £7m a year man, can mug us all off with high prices, high profits and utterly minimal investment.
Do not renew your Season Tickets, do not go to their souless money making bowl, cashflow is the ONLY thing that interests Wenger, Gazidis and that other wank Yank.
SUGA3 says:
January 31, 2012 at 13:01
albo,
calm down sunshine or you may burst a vessel
if not that, what was the reason for leaving your best player out of the team in a cup semi?
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Wenger himself said before the game he didn’t think Arshavin was going to play as he wanted to spare him the “awkwardness” of playing against his national team coach at the time, Hiddink. I can’t remember his exact words but certainly something along those lines.
Knowing Wenger, that may not have been the real reason but leaving him out was a terrible mistake all the same.
While I think Wenger has gone as far as he can, gambon thinking and always sounding off we have so so in the bank account….last time we bought someone to turn us around, he is now labelled shit and lazy….shows you buying is not the answer, I know a few managers that can use what we have right now and we’d play much much better….it’s something in Wenger’s stubborn nature…it sometimes comes out brilliant, and lately..it sinks us….change in tactics, change is what Wenger needs to incorporate, buying Tevez won’t do much if we insist on playing the same tactics when we can’t break down an opponent and they counter and score against us.
Pedro and aching balls
nuudles
I did not see much of Honda except those free kicks. Where will he play in Arsenal system and is he top drawer?
Dale,
buying proven talent is the answer, mismanaging them is not…
Pedro
Great Post. And I’m glad you had the view that what was raised yesterday needed further discussion. Your question of what do we do about the fan division and feeling of despair some fans have is pertinent and should be discussed.
This is a difficult question because in order for this to be resolved, there needs to be engagement between the fans and the Club. In order to do that the Club has to recognise there is a problem and want to resolve that problem.
I don’t believe they do recognise there’s a problem or if they do what they should do about it. So it would be pretty difficult to get them to discuss this. It’s easier for them to pretend that there’s nothing wrong and sweep it under the carpet in the hope that things will turn around and fans won’t notice.
19 year old injury prone german kid.
you honestly can’t make it up.
Gazidis coming out and defending Wenger now as well – after saying the fans decide his fate.
Fans have voiced there opinions and he comes out defending him.
CUNTS the lot of them.
nuudles
Its a lot more than £25m that we miss out on.
£25m payment from UEFA, this year we have had minimum 5 home CL games, at £3m per game.
Sponsorship will come down, and the opportunity cost for sponsorship deals will fall.
Surely we will have to reduce ticket prices.
We will be on domestic TV less next season as a result.
Overall it will cost us at least £50m.
Its a disaster, for everyone but Arsene Wenger, who can start his stress free youth project again. Unearthing kids, coaching them then selling for profit without any of the pressure of trophies.
Clark Whitney, a German Editor, thinks you are all wrong about Thomas Eisfeld, thinks he will be good….who knows.
We have much less debt than that:
The Group’s property business continues to be debt free and generating surplus cash for the Group. The overall level of Group net debt had been reduced to £97.8 million (2010 – £135.6 million) at the balance sheet date.
By now as I stated earlier we will be close to zero debt by the end of the season.
you got 21 minutes to go….
is rvp off then?
Got this from BBC..”Just seen Moyes buying a lottery ticket…trying to raise funds for Jelavic perhaps?”
R.I.P. old Le Grove !!
Bergkamp
You are listening to financial report spin.
The net debt is £97m as we have large cash reserves.
But that means absolutely nothing bearing in mind our debts are repayable over the next 20 years with annual interest.
Our debt is fine and nothing to worry about, but anyone that thinks the grand scheme is to be “debt free” is fucking thick.
German pundit just on ssn says he’s suprised were in for this German kid as he’s never even played a single game for the senior team & has a list of bad injuries.
Looool!! I think if we all chipped in a fiver each we might be able to hire a hitman…?
Come on you cunts…….bid for Barrios….its just 10m
Is’t true? Before midnight – Arsharvin out, and Podolski in?
Allahu Ahkbar!
gambon, very true
Add to that the £25m from UEFA could be much more if we go far. ManU got something like £45m from UEFA last season for getting to the final.
I agree it is an absolute disaster. IF we had a decent back-up plan to RvP I would have thought we could next year finish top 4 because of the greater focus and less intensive schedule if you do not have CL football (I dont think Spuds will be able to finish top 4 2 seasons in a row ecause I dont think they will cope). But without a proper striker (and I cannot see us keeping RvP beyond the summer) we quite simply cannot compete.
Next year the top 4 is likely to consist of Chelsea, ManCity, ManU & Lpool. I would have put us ahead of Lpool IF we had a proper striker because they have a real tough time of scoring goals and I dont see that changing without a proper creative midfielder.
Also dont think their squad would be able to cope, the following year, so then it will be between us & Spuds for the 4th spot, once again unless we have a proper CF I cannot see us finishing above them.
A vicious cycle of chasing 4th, hitting it every 2nd-3rd year on average. This will only end if we change our philosophy. This will only happen if the board has different priorities (which means much changed board – them saying Dein was too success driven says it all) AND if we go for a more ambitious manager.
So we are in a viscous(sp?!) cycle until Wenger retires. Even then things are unlikely to change drastically as the current board is unlikely to change much with Stan being the majority shareholder.
Begkamp63.. You’re quoting NET Debt.. which is total debt minus cash in the bank!
We will not be close to zero at the end of the year, This net figure will go down by a huge lump for sure.. Because at the next reporting period (May 31); it’s odds on that our cash will have soared from 160m to 200m+ and we will have paid another 5.6m off the stadium.. the Net figure will look smaller but the underlying debt will be up around 225m for the stadium and reducing annually until 2031.
Our cash will go up because unless we spend buckets before midnight we will have made a net transfer profit of around 18m this season. If AA23 Goes before midnight we will have another 10m or so. We are heading for a record takings on the stadium 100m+, 6.5% increase on tickets, Plus the normal profit from operations.
T2T
You are either stuck in the 90′s or living in denial
Let’s be clear.. Eisfeld is not a 2012 discussion.. so he’s not doing it to strengthen today’s squad. That’s about the same amount he paid for those La Masia kids last Summer who won’t make first team for several years yet.
What’s interesting about that is that he is clearly still thinking about the long-term future of the club – which reiterates that he’s not really seriously thinking about leaving soon.
Remember we have two different types of property debt. The big ons is the stadium debt, this one has fixed repayments at a favourable and manageable interest rate over a long term (over 20 years).
The other is the debt we incurred when we developed the residential (and other?) properties. This is not fixed as far as I remember and we can repay this as quickly as we want.
Very well put Thomas.
In other words at the end of the season we will have £200m in the bank (£225m once we sell RVP), but not a single trophy to show for it and we will be out of the CL.
Oh well, 6th with £200m in the bank is a trophy isnt it?
Gambon,
I was not listening to anything, just merely stating facts !!
I’m well aware of the cash reserves.
The debt is serviceable over 20 years at 5% PA.
Kroenke is looking to make the club net debt free he is not interested in spending, just his return on his outlay.
Nuudles
Well kind of.
We have £230m on the stadium at fixed interest, and thats it.
The rest was all paid off a year ago.
this german player has not even got a cap for the first team!! what a joke!!
DaleDaGooner; that’s odd, when I listened to Talksport a few minutes ago a ‘german’ reporter interviewed about possible transfers out of Germany likened the boy to Bischoff; ie a dud; so who should we beleive?
Anyway, reality is Arsenal are NOT buying anyone this window – unless someone leaves. I’m off to partake in a few antidepressant tabs with a bottle of alcohol……..
QPR look like they are getting Cisse AND Zamora….
Right… switch over is underway!
Ricky, I concur…just asked a German mate, who supports Hamburg and knows his stuff…whats this Eisfeld like…??
His reply: Never heard of him!!!
Thats reassuring!
I thought it terribly sad to hear boos at half time, despite the performance. Contrast that with the extraordinary support by the away fans at the drubbing at OT.
But the booing is understandable, and it’s not because of the lack of trophys, who has left etc,and how we are currently playing. it’s because we know things arent going to get better. born out of frustration and powerlessness, and anger.
An owner who really doesn’t give a toss, a CEO who is doing the job he was employed to do, namely make money for the owners, at the expense of club success, and a manager who is destroying his own legacy on a daily basis.
Only a change in ownership, which in turn means a new board and CEO can turn this around. Otherwise we can settle for the mediocrity that most clubs face.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/1506/20/former-arsenal-ace-hleb-axed-barcelona
Bet you ANY MONEY this is Arshavins replacement
Bergkamp
No quite. Net debt free is a meaningless phrase.
If Kroenke wanted to maximise return on investment he would do the exact opposite to what hes doing.
What do you think happens if we become “net debt free” (LOL) suddenly Kroenke recieves a cheque for £200m??
To get value from his purchase he needs to get us to the top 2 and in finals of CLs etc while also getting us mega new deals in 2014.
That would require a serious injection right now of £100m+
What we’re doing is ensuring he cant make any money on his investment.
Falling out of the CL erases our annual profits, and will also blow our chances commercially.
gambon, true, just as I post that comment I thought we probably sold enough apartments to repay the non-stadium debt
i feel main problem with the squad that i have is in midfield they dont have any midfeolderso f same quality of a samir nasri or cesc someone that will score at least 10 goals a season.the midfielders they have are good they are very effishient but most of the players in that position cant realy change a game and striker position.cbs are fine merstaker is not the quickiest thats all.the whole way in which the play is to out score the opisition but they are not clinical enough. now there has been some roumours about aa but i have my doughts but i cant realy see him staying longer than the summer
Oooooerrrrr, i just felt a little tickle in me undertrollies!!!!
Oh well Gambon we can look forward to the 6-monthly report next month and the publishing of the Deloitte Money League also in Feb.. I’m sure we’ll find a few trophies in there!
See you all the other side of the site change.. It’s going to be a messy 24 hours or so while the Net DNS Servers catch up and refresh and point to the new address!
nuudles
Not only that but the property business is now delivering cash to the club.
Obviously it will just accumulate in the bank like the rest of it.
I think the excess property will deliver £40m of cash between 2011-2013.
Sad times.
gambon, seems that is a bit too risk-taking (to invest) for him or for the board/Wenger.
Like you say the debt is fixed. We have tons of money in the bank, earning virtually no interest. So I dont see why we would need a cash injection. We could just use the money we have in the bank (not all of it). Using lets say half of it we would still easily be able to meet the debt & interest repayments, fund the wages, etc.
I think the media will run some nasty stuff when we show how rich we are once again yet look to lose RVP…
Its not the clubs money its ours!!
Nuudles
The thing is it isnt their money, its the fans money.
Without the fans the club dont make a penny and cease to be.
gambon, or even worse they will declare big dividends and big bonusses for the good financial performance so the money will be syphened out of the club (the profits at the least)
more and more cash just being stacked and nothing going happens.
Out with the cunts!
Some comments made on here make me laugh..us spending 20-25 mil plus? hahahah
We aren’t signing anyone. No need to get our hopes up. Wenger and the board just don’t want to spend the money. I don’t believe all this bullshit about us having funds for transfers. Its obvious we need players. An experienced and well respected coach like Wenger knows this. He just keeps quiet and puts on this front just for show. So does the club, with shitbag comments coming from Ivan G. They say all this just to show to everyone how great and rosy it is, when it isn’t.
It is plain to see that we are a selling club who are more interested in profits. They would rather buy cheap and young, and then sell on. And pretty soon it will bite them in the arse, like it is doing now.
Is getting rid of Wenger the solution, or silent Stan selling up?
Sunderland take Wayne bridge on loan…
Not a bad move for them… I wouldn’t put any money on us beating them in next round of the fa cup.
thanks for the info,
see you suckers tomorrow when we will once again rue our failings in the transfer window and complain about not being as shrewd as [put rival club's name here]
dont think this deadline day is going to produce nearly as much fireworks as the last (last summer or last january), not even for the nuetrals
Lucas Barrios—>>> Fulham
Ricky, wind your neck in.
The delusion has infected the board obviously –
Or they need to wake up… You couldn’t make it up…
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2094262/Manchester-City-love-Gazidis.html
We are all aware of what it means falling out of the CL and what it will do for our commercial deals, I wasn’t advocating what they are doing, mearly expressing an opinion as to what I believe Kroenke and the board are trying achieve.
What other reason do you think they are not spending money other than to maximise ROI, Kroenke is a businessman, his aim is profit and as long as he is around, don’t expect that to change.
They are not really interested in winning the EPL or champions league, if they do then it’s a bonus. If they can get into the CL each year without investing hundreds of millions like MC or like MU has spent down the years, they won’t spend a penny.
On the new site Pedro, can we have a different manager and be chasing our 5th CL win?
Bolton complete the loan signing of Ryo….
Gazidis defended AW and criticized the Mancity model but he still said that ‘nobody has a job for life’ so maybe they are considering dumping him! But Silent Stan won’t give a hoot about it cos he is makinng profit!
No doubt Ryo will be playing out of his skin for the rest of the season !!
WE ARE OUR AMBITIONS?!
We sign a 19 year old injury prone player to solve our problems?
WTF?
WHERE*
Jon Toral, anybody know how well he is developing?
I was wondering about Toral and Bellerin ?
Ricky, and facing Bendy!
skandibird says:
January 31, 2012 at 14:51
DaleDaGooner; that’s odd, when I listened to Talksport a few minutes ago a ‘german’ reporter interviewed about possible transfers out of Germany likened the boy to Bischoff; ie a dud; so who should we beleive?
Anyway, reality is Arsenal are NOT buying anyone this window – unless someone leaves. I’m off to partake in a few antidepressant tabs with a bottle of alcohol……..
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I quite agree with the Bischoff comparison…….can’t see this guy amount to much. Sad times.
He hasn’t even played for any German Youth!!!
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/fa-league-cups/arsne-wenger-pariah-6296211.html
Toral is a kid, dont hold your breath for at least 6 years.
So whose looking forward to watching our new recruits Hazard and Vertongen play tomorrow night?.
Yeh right!!
The transfer window does not excite me anymore.
Kroenke,Gazidis,Hill-Wood and Wenger OUT!!
Dein,Usmanov and Mourinho IN!!
FIGHT GREED, FIGHT FOR THE ARSENAL
I bet the AKBs will have a tug tonight over the 19 year old signing.
More rumours abour Krasic leaving Juve for either Zenit ot those fucking Bagel Eaters up the road….
“From the very little that I have seen in the video’s, he looks like a one touch player with good vision. A creative midfielder who already has a picture of players around him before he gets it and that is a good sign.”
Sigh…..I hope he surprises us…I really do…unlike those who wish we lose games to prove a point….but this is becoming sad.
DDM…hey, Bagel is a nice breakfast over here!
QPR confirm Cisse deal….
Saha to spurs…..
hmmmmmmmmmm
A bagel is a stapel of the Yidish community, ergo those fucking cunts from N17.
gambon, Jon Toral is promoted, he plays with the likes of Ignasi, Nico and Benik, Bellerin is still in the Academy though
the cocks obsession with amassing strikers is funny, Saha??
“Jon Toral, anybody know how well he is developing?”
I think his nuts dropped last month.
New Signing!!!
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/gibbs-makes-successful-return-to-training?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arsenal-news+%28News+Feed%29
Fucking Gibbs, just how mucg do we pay this cunt for his six games a season?
Sorry couldn’t help myself,
quote of the day from bbc website, “Transfer deadline day as an Arsenal fan is like sitting in detention and watching all the other kids play in the playground.”
Erm Toral has played 1, yes 1 reserve game, so im not so sure hes been “promoted”.
I think the word that best describes my current demeanour would be………….. seething.
Aston Villa have 2 gay strikers..one is Keane and the other is Bent
Lurch LeRouge says:
January 31, 2012 at 15:51
“Jon Toral, anybody know how well he is developing?”
I think his nuts dropped last month.
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LMAO
gambon, that’s 1 more game than Bellerin
Did we sign Mo Farah on a short term deal?? LOL
Good point, hes way ahead of him.
Wow, until now there have been 10 bids for Bendtner and 11 for Denilson
We were offered 25 millions for Denilson, and 35 millions for NB
Some Hilarious pieces on here about proshit youch
A cracking headline….
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/gibbs-makes-successful-return-to-training
Is the new site on? Or yet?
So now in the hunt for the new site then …..
can’t see it yet Bade.
hleb to olympiakos
Me too Lurch
I have a feeling we’re the only two able to log in
I tried to log in from another tab, appears like the site is not existed
Hello?
Some Israeli sports site (not that major, suspected on credibility) ran a story about Robin’s desire to join his friend Cesc at Barca, in the summer …..
Hello DDM
Seems lke the new site’s just been opened
hello
is arsene still alive?
hello
Well I prefer to comment on here for the moment
Hello
Is it me you looking for?
I can see it in your eyes !!
G’day gambon…..
Don Campbell…..
new site is up ?
I can’t connect to it…..
Imagine switching over on Transfer Dealine day, cracking decison there Pedro old son….
He probably did it cos he gets paid more per click on the new site.
Whats the new address….www.le-sellout.com
wwww.le-sustainablemodel.com
http://www.le-financialdoping.net
http://www.le-howmuchmoremoneycanwescrewoutofthegoonerfaithful.com
http://www.Le-shamelessIPADfinanceagregator.co.uk
Is gambon still here? Quick question…De Gea cost United 18m while Lindegaard cost them less than 4m…what’s your take?