In a way I feel for Arsene Wenger, I really do. I have a huge amount of respect for what he had to put up with during the stadium move and how he kept us afloat in times of seriously poor cash flow. According to fact, we deferred the signing of Robin Van Persie by 6 months because we couldn’t afford his fee in one lump, which was about £2.75million. Also, back in 2006, we didn’t play Theo for so long because we couldn’t afford his first installment that was triggered by an appearance.
Pre summer 2007 we really were in a hole with money and to keep us alive in the Champions League and to get us to a final in the process was an incredible achievement. As many have pointed out, possibly the greatest achievement under his tenure has been keeping the clubs head above water during the move.
Trouble is, coming so close to greatness in 2006 on a shoe string budget scarred his methodology forever, because ever since, regardless of resource, he’s been chasing the low-budget success high he buzzed off that summer Jens Lehmann smashed over Eto’o and killed our dreams.
Since January 2008 he’s has £18million plus to spend in the transfer market. Small fry compared to City and Chelsea, but when have we ever played ball in those markets? Jan 2008 we could have re-signed Anelka, held on to Diarra and we could have picked up a centre back. Instead, we signed no one, sold Diarra for a pittance in case his value fell below £4million on loan and flogged Gilberto.
Summers have generally repeated themselves. Same old problems with promised redress in May with no delivery by September. The result? Often we’d compete with a small squad until February, then things would fall away when injuries set in and mental fragility reared it’s ugly head.
The same coaching staff, the same average players being flogged and the same outcome. Like many scenarios in life, you can forgive mistakes if they’re not repeated, you can forgive them if you see different approaches and a ruthless streak when things are going wrong… But to just watch the same failings over and over again becomes tiring.
This is what many journo’s don’t understand when assessing crowd reaction at the Emirates. Sure the song wasn’t nice, sure booing mid-game isn’t smart when chasing a game, but there comes a point after watching seasons unravel so frequently when you just lose it. Being rational is the easiest thing in the world when you have no emotion invested in a club. It’s easy to stick up for a manager who has kept you in a job with witty sound bites for years. Not so easy when you’re forking out a massive chunk of cash you’ve scrapped hard to find, knowing what you’re likely to see. Like Geoff said yesterday, the UK’s press are up in arms over the pay of the RBS Chief and he’s earning half of what Arsene is at the moment… £7million a year and he’s not doing his best to give us a competitive team.
Arsene Wenger is the root of these issues. Don’t believe the stories about Dick Law bumbling around messing up Wenger’s deals because they’re simply not true. Wenger’s indecisiveness on players is the problem. As reported at the AGM, he values the players and he decides what to pay them. If he didn’t, he’d be elsewhere… as he’s said on many occasions before.
Trouble we have at the club is a power issue. Wenger controls too much. He was given more power when Dein went because most of the current board had too much trust in him. It largely paid off, the issue is that now he’s not doing so well, it’s hard to wrestle the power back.
So what is going on at board level? Are they giving him the rope to hang himself? It makes sense doesn’t it. Gazidis only has power when it comes to the commercial side of the business, the rest of the board are old, bereft of energy and ideas and their satisfaction of Champions League every year to fatten their eventual pay off has caused a malaise in the club which has filtered into the first team. Do you think the current set up suits Ivan Gazidis and Tom Fox. Do you think the commercial team relishes a squad they’re struggling to market? No way… but they can’t remove a legend unless the fans say so.
Why do you think the board chose Stan to take over? Because he’ll stay in America, come over once and year and keep the status quo. What do you think Usmanov would be doing now? What benefit would he see on £50mill profit bar a tax liability? He’d come in, he’d change the board (the old boys), bring in fresh blood and give Arsene the funds needed to transform his squad.
The only demand? Win something. As someone in the comments pointed out yesterday. Football clubs don’t exist to make money, they exist to succeed.
Changes need to happen at Arsenal. I said after the last collapse that the next dip in form will see a far quicker backlash. It proved true. Wenger should have acted in early Jan, that could have saved him a whole load of grief. Sadly we are where we are now. Our relationship with Arsene is damaged forever, regardless of how many guilty ‘there’s only one Arsene Wenger’ songs we sing at the weekend. Gazidis said to me at the AST Q&A that ultimately, the manager was accountable to the fans. Well, things aren’t looking good are they?
As for Madrid coming in for Arsene. You have got to be kidding me? If Mourinho is getting grief after over taking Barca to the top of La Liga, what would they think to Wenger bringing in super class talent like Silvestre and Park Chu-Young? He’d last half a season anywhere like that and he’d be a giant hypocrite if he went to a financially doped club and started spunking money up the wall like Kenny Dalglish at an English Players supermarket.
Right, that’s you lot. Geoff back on tomorrow… whilst I’ll be recording the first podcast for Le Grove!
P.S. Chelsea fans are all class eh?
Honest Bill
So in his 880 games for Arsenal he’s made “a few good subs”.
Wow hes awesome.
I know, lets talk about how he won the league 134 years ago, thats all the AKBs have left to cling on to.
Ian Wright has just tweeted MSM and confirmed that Hazard is in London to join a PL club.
“This is no rumor. Agent on plane to Gatwick as we speak. Fee agreed. Just terms need sorting. And arsenal need find a player to offload so he gets in 25man squad.”
Now is there any truth I wonder! ?
Joppa,
don’t know if he can recover but I’d give him some breathing room if in order of preference.
1. Institute a culture that doesn’t tolerate complacency.
2. shift the deadwood – prerequisite really. esp shava, Roza, Diaby, Fabianski & Almunia
3. Acquire following in order of preference,
resign RVP
Backup striker, proven 10-15 goals a season track record in decent league.
a creative CAM/wideman
world class DM
Left Back
Versatile Midfielder/defender/RB
Backup senior keeper
another wide creative, speculative player.
4. Shake up the backroom. No offence Pat Rice.
5. reinstall an executive like David Dein – a footballing man etc…
6.quit the mental strength psychobable & excuse making.
WIN A FUCKING TROPHY
- I jest, but at least pretend to really want one.
I seriously think the only hope is the FA Cup, you know the one everyone looks down on. It will always be a fantastic competition to me. If we got 4th place in the EPL (which I don’t think we will) then thats a bonus. Go for the FA Cup.
Hazard rumours on twitter
FA cup would be massive yes.
Keyser,
The last time we finished second was back in 2005, if I remember correctly (a year after the invincibles), since then we’ve never make second even
There were 2 Chavs titles (Maureen’s) so only twice we came 2nd after the Mancs….
Spot on Lurch…
Say ‘well done’ to the opposition when we get beat, once in a while! Act like a gent.
Pat Rice is off end off this season, Almunia, Arshavin, Bendy and Rosicky too I think.
Hazard coming to us – I hope so but not if he gets morphed into a different player. Messi could come and Wenger would fine him every time he dribbled past someone!
Radio Raheem – “For every outcome you see or observe there are always several contributory factors but at some point one has to recognise or rank which is more telling.”
Exactly, the case of West Ham vs Man United, I think it’d be pretty far down the list. In the Liverpool one, a tactical change seems more prevalent, but then were they regularly going 3-0 down by half-time ?!
What are you trying to state here exactly that Wenger’s in game management with regards to tactics is too rigid ? Yes, fine.
I’m wondering how much this matters when it comes to managing all the other contributory factors that lead upto that game.
In terms of 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 and the Champions League, when Wenger first came to Arsenal he wanted to switch to 4-3-3, Adams and some of the others felt this left them too exposed, there must have been some sort of compromise because of what I remember with Parlour and Overmars.
Honest Bill,
The Doctor, accused of causing death by negligence, claimed for his defence:
“Well, I made 100 successful operations, am I not allowed to do one small negligence?”
What a poor classy AKB argument
Nice to see Gambon has read the latest release http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/equality-and-diversity
HB.
I disagree, the only teams that have actually improved seem to be the Spuds, Shiity, and ‘Toons. Like us ‘pool and Chavs are going backwards and Utd are just holding ground. I can’t support the lack of talent or the failure of prospects to develop, but I don’t agree with throw money at it.
To me the process it broken and Theo is a prime example of that. I can’t understand how we can have repetative injuries year in year out. SOMEONE must speak up or at least work out that something is wrong with the training
MHNM – “No comeback on Dortmund or Portsmouth winning the cup with poorer squads than us?”
You’d have to look at how the german leagues structured really, Marco Reus has recently chosen Dortmund over Bayern, you’d have to wonder why there to.
As for Portsmouth, it’s hardly like it happens every year, but wouldn’t you account for how little value the big teams place on the competition nowadays in comparison to where all the money is.
Inter were able to focus soo much on the Champions League because of how little competition they had left in the league.
**Arsenal owner Stan Kroenke bidding for Los Angeles Dodgers baseball team**
I pray he sells to Usmanov to fund this…
‘tweeted MSM ?’
I’m a big man for stats -
As soon as Chamakh left Arsenal for the African Nations Cup they lose 3 games in a row.
RVP FC?
I don’t think so…More like Chamakh FC
The FA? I wish
But the last time we were in a cup final, you lot remember what happened eh?
But let’s knock out Villa 1st….. Won’t be that easy, they’re in their best form now
QUESTIONS: If red and white take over at Arsenal do you.
Want David Dein Back?
If DD comes back will that mean AW gains more power?
Let Jabba throw money at the problem?
Be worried that blokes with hand inked tatt’s will be employed as stewards, Watch out Gambon they might feel you should be more supportive of the boss’s manager
What are you trying to state here exactly that Wenger’s in game management with regards to tactics is too rigid ? Yes, fine.
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Lol Keyser, yes I have been trying to that but this I thought was clear. In addition, you can expand that to his ‘out-game’ tactics too!
I completely disagree with you that the tactical changes made against West Ham were of little relevance to the outcome of the match. Did you watch this match?
He only has to manage the factors he can. Tactics is one important factor to me and one I feel he doesn’t do enough of whether ‘in-game’ or ‘out-game’.
I’m a big man for stats -
As soon as Chamakh left Arsenal for the African Nations Cup they lose 3 games in a row.
RVP FC?
I don’t think so…More like Chamakh FC
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yeah chamakh did the half-time blow drying
Samir,
Maybe it could have more to do with the wonder forehead, rather than the wandering nomad.
Well Samir
Anyway, he was played in between in the Leeds win at the FA cup, and I thought he was on the bench in the Fulham away, but can’t remember whether he was played, as he barely make any impact
The only reason I remembered him playing in that cup tie was the Henry reintroduction …..
I appreciate what Wenger has done in the past and thank him for his service. Now is the time to make a move before we lose top half place. He has gutted our team, not brought in adequate depth and the mindset that was successful in 1998 no longer applies. Furthermore, since the George Graham defense (Adams, Keown, Winterburn, Dixon) has left Wenger has not bothered to coach the team in proper defending. I am p!ssed off that after Keown did such a great job in 2008 with the defense Wenger did not bring him back because he felt threatened. Call me crazy but I think Ian Holloway would be a fantastic replacement (and YES I am a Holloway/Blackpool fan). Holloway works miracles on shoestring budgets, his teams play attractive motivated football, he understands tactics and motivation and KNOWS HOW TO USE HIS SUBSTITUTIONS. All of which Wenger has no success with. I used to be an “Arsene knows best” but have lost faith in him but I am still an awesome Arsenal fan. I wish he would just spend some money (we know he has it) and give us quality depth and get rid of the dead wood (Diaby, Denilson, Rosicky, etc.).
Radio Raheem – Mate, he can change whatever he wants, but the fact remains they were losing to a soon to be relegated team, and they were pretty lucky to come back as they did, I can’t quite remember the game completely just the feeling West Ham made a bit of a mess of it.
Do you see my point in relation to those two games, if we want a tactically astute manager to take over one of the best teams in the World, in game tactics would matter far much more against teams who actually had players as good or even better than your own.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/important-travel-info-for-blackburn-h-?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+arsenal-news+%28News+Feed%29
Maybe the activity should be a well organised demonstration?
Or better, Arsene’s scientific lecture to prove how 4th becomes a trophy?
I think West Ham had a case for one of Uniteds defenders being last man or something early on.
the swansea team you could say benefits from its tactics. individually they are not great players but the team performance exceeds the sum of its parts
Raheem,
The only blowing MC does is in Vegas hot-tubs
Did you read gambon’s earlier point about stratedgy, don’t they benefit more from sticking to that rigidly, at least against us.
That’s basically what Wenger preaches.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrxOuXw1noE&feature=related
THIS BOY is the best player to put on a england shirt since tony adams
Keyser their strategy is different from their tactic. their strategy is to attack…the tactic is to press at certain areas of the pitch, (in our match take off a midfielder and bring on a support striker) etc.
lol 87gooner,
Keyser, I think I remember the West Ham match better. You now agree that tactics is important but you’re saying that its effectiveness depends on the quality of players at one’s disposal. Fair enough.
Their strategy is passing/possesion football, coupled with the pressing technique, a tactic would be to have Graham run off the shoulder of the slower Mertesacker, pretty much like Wellbeck did, wouldn’t it ?!
strategy = pressing, attacking, possession etc.
tactic = play either 433/4411, press certain areas at given moments in the match, target JD etc.
They’re relevant just over-played in the case of Wenger.
Real Madrid vs Barcelona is a good case study, because both should be good enough to beat every other team besides each other, tactics wouldn’t really play a prevalent part in those games before says quad depth, fatigue and so on had already had an effect and it’s more about adjustment to those factors.
But, regardless of how good Barcelona are, Madrid have almost as ridiculous an array of attacking talent and probably a deeper squad, yet soo far Mourinho’s struggled to adjust his tactics/ strategy far enough to extend further than ‘our defence should be good enough to beat you’.
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oxlade chamberlain … chamberlain…. oxlade chamberlian
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ANY MORE SONGs for him ???????
agreed Martin Hayes,
Totally fed up with being a laughing stock on Mondays and that study that we’d have come 2nd if the refs did their job probably is cringeworthy beyond belief.
Also credit to gambon for recognising the need for definition between strategy and tactics.
Too true lurch…
Lurch
Yes I see how the casual observer could be taken in by him. It’s the artistry of a conman.
2301
my old boy’s a mad keen sports enthusiast – rugby & cricket are his poison – moderately intellectual and fairly well read on sporting matters and he can’t fathom how there’s criticism of AW.
He’s completely guilty of pandering to the psychology of it all – not because he’s a fool, but because he doesn’t put the time in to assimilate all the twists and turns yet enjoys a sporting professional that can construct a sentence properly.
An entertaining piece on good old ‘arry. He said in court today that people are suspicious of him because he speaks with a cockney accent… if he has to quit football, he could have a career in London gangsta movies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/25/harry-redknapp-sick-of-suspicion
any you boys recommend any milan hotels to stay @
best location to stay …..
Haha it’s funny how whenever i come on here and make any point that perhaps Wenger is not an insane dictator who knows nothing about football and who got lucky because David Dein won him a couple of trophies, i get called an ‘AKB’
Everyone is always talking about what wenger did for us, in the past. yet apparently can not give him credit for anything. he inherited a super world class team, then David Dein bought him lots of world class players because he didn’t have the balls in the transfer market to do it himself, then luckily won a couple of 38 game league titles despite his tactical ineptitude and being too stupid to know the difference between a shit player and a good one… What a lucky bloke is all i can say, you just couldn’t make this shit up… Oh wait, you could..
How come Fergie.. who we all agree is a tactical mastermind right? has lost out to Wenger’s sides on 3 occasions? given Wenger knows nothing about tactics?.
And strategy is the formation and overall game plan. Tactics is the techniques you employ to get it done
Attack and pin back the enemy has always been the main strategy, the tactics have differed according to different players.
So Wenger beat Fergie on 3 occasions, and Fergie won on how many occasions?
10 I believe since Wenger joined.
Hmmmmm 10-3, thats worse than the 8-2 defeat he handed to us.
Mourinho came over, played 2 seasons, and smashed Arsene both times.
Ancellotti came for 2 seasons and smashed Arsene twice.
He really is a very overrated manager.
HB, when you come on here and say 8-2 is the same as 1-0… people will just think you’re mental.
Actually Honest Bill, you have a very valid point.
I tell you what, that game at OT was awesome.
We managed to score twice, that is immense, we put 2 goals in at Old Trafford. Obviously we’ll forget those we conceded.
its fair to say most of us are mental.
gamboon
why dont you talk about the 5 sgoals we scored @ chelsea ….
Honest Bill
Stop using the Arsene’s victim’s strategy. It works only when you can filter the questions journo’s address to you ….
You have serious problems of comprehending the game if you can’t see at least two screaming mistakes Arsene did in our games against Fulham and the Mancs
It was so obvious JD was going to get the second yellow, and it was even obvious he was targeted in that game. Arsene didn’t respond, he got 2 yellows and the rest is hiostory. meaning he had an alert and another chance to sub him when got the 1st yellow, he still didn’t act.
As for the unbelievable sub he did in the last game, one might think it was intentional, he took our best performing player, who was “on the Zone” (as said in the NBA), so he takes him, and he’s doing it in the worst timing he could probably have done it
How can other subs in other games justify such a blatant mistakes?
Yes but since you are blatantly taking my point out of context, people will think you do nothing but spout out short rhetorical statements instead of making an argument.
How much of a mastermind could Fergie really be, to get beaten, even 3 times by a chancer who has no tactical knowledge?
Other coaches win by genius, Wenger only won his by luck.. I get it.
There is a reason why so many in the world of football regard him as a good coach, dislike for him, and envy for other managers just blinds you to the facts.
Expenditure is directly related to on-pitch success. You can’t avoid that, i know how fond you are of stats.
Bade..
Arsene’s victims strategy?
BENJI says:
January 25, 2012 at 17:42
any you boys recommend any milan hotels to stay @
best location to stay …..
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Benji, save your money mate. Don’t waste it on those stingy gits. HIt the fuckers in the pockets and they might just learn a thing or two..
Love Arsenal Hate Wenger
Honest Bill
I don’t think your getting it. How much influence do you believe Wenger has within a game once it’s started? Little to none. And from what has come out over the years he has very little to say in the dressing room either.
I can’t remember a change that he made to react to something another manager did within a game that made a difference. He doesn’t make tactical changes just relies on his fitness spreadsheet to know when a player might be fatigued.
It’s not as if we are speculating here. Read what former players have said, and I;m sure they could go further except for the respect they have for the man. The info is out there if you care to look.
Study the games from that era and like I said previously you will see players who could change a game or took control of matters on the field within a game. Wenger did make changes at that time but the players back then were game changers such as Pires, Ljungberg etc who knew their job. Now a lot of the team don’t know their job and don’t you think thats exactly what it looks like out their?
So to be clear, Wenger inherited players fortunately, He brought in some key players which is commendable. He concentrated on flair and attack, which at the time he could get away with because the defence more or less took care of itself.
In order to find answers to what is going on today you need to look to the past. Why has he struggled for years trying to get the defence right? Because previously it took care of itself.
Why does he have recurring problems that never seem to be resolved, because you resolve them with the right personal, tactics or training. If you are lacking in all those areas things kinda start looking like they do now.
Why does it look like the Club has no identity? Previous players instilled that not him if it was him he could do it again like Ferguson does, but he can’t and thus we look like a Club with no identity or leadership that has lost touch with it’s fanbase.
I could go on but if you can’t see for yourself that Wenger might as well not be at a game then I don’t know what you’ve been watching. He’s probably the manager that has the least affect on a game in the league.
He uses the same formation and approach regardless of opponent and tells the team to just go out and play. I feel cheated for the 7mill he’s earning. I’m surprised he’s manage to keep the dressing room so long, but then again Adams did say he’s a lovely, lovely man, maybe that’s it.
Honest Bill
Expenditure is directly related to on-pitch success. You can’t avoid that, i know how fond you are of stats
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Tell that to Dortmund, Porto and other Clubs that have won without massive investment. You don’t need massive investment to be competitive.
Spend the money we have spent already more wisely that would do me fine, or are you denying that money has been squandered by Wenger on transfer and wages for players he should have binned long ago? All in the name of his fucking ego.
Gunner2301 – “And from what has come out over the years he has very little to say in the dressing room either.”
Are you sure ? Wasn’t it more that he doesn’t really shout, he lets them rest, and then when he speaks, he tells them exactly what he wants changed and how.
Keyser
I heard Pat Rice does most of the team talk at half time. From Charlie George himself but maybe he’s lying I don’t know.
Or maybe he doesn’t really know, maybe he heard it from someone else, maybe Pat Rice did it the few times Charlie Goerge was present, who knows.
What actualplayers have said, Dixon, Winterburn, Keown and so on is he doesnt shout too often, so when he does get pissed you take notice, that he tells you the specific things he wants changed and how.
Unless you’ve got something different to add.
Nice post Pedro. I agree, Wenger has too much power. I wonder if when Dein was here how transfers went down. Supposedly Wenger identified what he needed and Dein went and got them. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to find that Wenger identified player/s (like the ones he has now, (mentally soft, injury prone, defensively poor) and Dein went out and got a better player than the one Wenger identified. It’s becoming glaringly obvious that Dein’s contribution was massive. Our problems with injuries and mental toughness began at the point he left
All those AKB’s out there: You can’t eat yesterday’s dinner
Oh my days! I missed the “a loss is a loss” statement. Bill you need to start living up to your name and start being honest because you’re not if you’re walking around with blinkers on.
My sons a goalkeeper so just from a goalkeeping perspective alone how do you imagine 8 going past you is the same as 1? I’d expect him to be a little annoyed at 1 but 8 that’s demoralisation zone possibly depression with some serious counselling to come back from. LMFAO
Keyser
Are you sure you’re talking about Wenger and not Adams?
You’re right we can only go by what we have been told so we can’t be 100% sure, so I’ll take that one back until I have more concrete evidence.
People talk about weak defence but i think it is not really the problem. The mid filed & attack is real problem. In MF we do not have creativity or physical strenth to fight for 90 min. Same is the case in attack bar VP.Even during successfull years opposition team use to score goals but Arsenal always scored one more. Today the monent a goal is scored against us we panick.Team does not have confidence to score goals against any teams. Regrading wenger, hope he remebrs that he is football manager first & if he fails in that, no amount of money will bring him joy.An average manage can afford to fail occasionaly , change the clubs & can still carry on. Wenger with all the reputation (true or false) can not do that.he has to be successful at Arsenal or quit football.
Cissokho -> Juventus – 9 mil. bravo Arsene
flinky
I don’t think we’re getting anyone., Reports of Hazard is probably for Chelsea that would balance them nicely with Mata on the other side. We will have to fall and rise again.
If Wenger replaced the quality players we sold with good quality players then the team would be in better state.
probably will make a signing.
Rosicky contract extension.
Its important to keep these players together, cough.
gwaaan pool, so close
You guys all miss the major problems Arsenal are facing.
It is not the management, the manager, the players or the fans…
There are things we can all learn from Wenger’s press conferences:
1) Referees are always against Arsenal.
2) We are a bit unlucky at times.
3) We should have won that.
4) Something something… Mental strength.
5) Yada yada yada… Stability.
6) Quality & Sharpness.
Other than that, we are as perfect as Barca wish they would be.
the problem arsenal are facing is the decision between being a feeder club or a contender capable paying competitive wages.
i think they have answered that question, lurch.
egalitarian ethic = feeder club.
DeJong, £8M yes please arsene
What a facking goal by De Jong.
TH12 on National TV awards
Rutu,
Hazard will go to chelsea or t’ham.
We won’t sign him cos he is too good.
Not a chance!!!!!!!!!!!
PENO!
I’ve seen them given!
How can that be a pen
got any half decent rumours frenchie?
phil dowd Dial, need we say more?
Dody decision, can’t imagine Pool doing winning a Cup.
Savic a poor man’s Squillaci.
kwik funny thing plenty on here saying we should of signed him
At least Savic is only 21.
I know Dial but we know better
lurch-
not at moment. there was a twat fart earlier in the day: someone claimed that spuds had a 40 large bid accpeted for hazard. this was directly following an announcemnet that arsenal were balls deep in discussions re: said new spud player. the voyeur that i am really enjoyed watching the retraction…twatter is ruthless.
kwik-
you mean a rich man’s squid, right?
haha,
the other recently is Suarez to Barca to cover David Villa’s injury so Hazard to LFC.
wonder if joe cole recommends chavs or scousers?
he got on well with both.
we could start a denilson swap with sao paolo for jadson who we immediately ship to losc with arsh for hazard +cash. i think that would make some heads go linda blair, arguing the impossibilities and such.
never work, a deal like that would take 6 years at the rate we move.
that would be the beautiful thing about twating such a move…twatter would explode!
in november, i had hopes. the moment we signed th14/12 on loan it became apparent arsene was going to cover the weaknesses with good cheer.
fail to see the purpose of extending rosicky’s contract.
agreed, waste of a foreign senior squad berth with no resale value.
only those with a weird sense of sentiment would disagree.
What a save!
frenchie one could look at it both way’s
Yeah but his last contract if I remember correctly was when he was still recovering from injury and Eboue signed a contract early last year and was sold in the summer. Not much logic in that but can’t be bothered to understand some of the decisions made at this club.
Rodwell should make an alright replacement
rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief…
protecting investment OPG.
haha, your inside my head sometimes, was gonna post that after kwiks comment
Possible extension and then sell at an inflated price. Risky I know but a possibility. That little twat Nasri done something similar at Marseille if memory serves.
the only other option to consider is that he possible goes other way to losc with a new contract and hazard comes this way, which will never happen. so, again, i ask: what is the point.
I could see him of to koln…
odd that.
As long as that’s all he’s inside Lurch
that was the other rumour, lurch…koln selling a certain forward to lokomotive. hmmmm
jealousy doesn’t become you kwik
oh, you boys! stop!
has nasri done anything yet?
doublegooner seems confident we’re selling a forward this summer…
dg expect rvp to be gone? i was thinking a certain forward who would swoon over the male on male attention i have received today.
yeah chamakh can do that
lurch-
nasri would say in response to your question: wait until may.
IM HEARING WE ARE IN FOR BURAK YILMAZ LOOKS exactly what we need
Transfer window almost shut , were crying out for someone who can put the ball in the net and still no movement. First game after the window closes you all know what’s going to happen
was thinking/hoping more meerkat.
sounds like his wife makes cheese from breast milk Benji.
Barca v Madrid is a very entertaining game.
i think that will happen. wenger seemed rather put upon post match, similar to how arsh felt put upon to contribute defensively.
Burak, son of boltok the rapist.
if you say his name three times, real fast, you drool…or something.
a signing to keep RVP company?
Bellamy!!!
he looks granite reminds me of a speedy benzema
always liked Bellamy, but the amount of times he’s been rubbished on here…
for a cunt, bellamy produces.
Evening all!
Bellemy 2-2, great game.
frankly, bellamy is a player you want on your side: tenacious, but a cunt. if he played for arsenal, i would “yeah, but he is our cunt.”
whats his story Benji? never heard of him.
Scored 22 in 17.
trabzonspore, 25, young turk and youtube makes him look brilliant. turkish delight. enjoys a goal.
benji-
how long have we been linked? 1 week or more?
Silent Stan is the culprit . He will not invest in players. He is a viper who will bleed dry cash cows for his own purpose. His next victims will be Los Angeles Dodgers.
http://www.nesn.com/2012/01/arsenal-fc-owner-stan-kroenke-bidding-for-la-dodgers.html?
yeah he would give the arsenal team a bit a balance i think. strong passionate wish we could offer chamakh in swap deal but doubt that would happen. i like the look of him say hes worth 12-15 mill in my valuation.
chamakh will be peddling his talents elsewhere. i hear there is a good market in gay porn.
hmmmm Santos came from turkey….
that would mean 2 foreign seniors out by the 31st to allow for TH12 & this fella.
there are 3 possibile candidates…
fabianski will go out on loan. th12 is covered.
haha, no CL, no FA, no CC.
ouch
ROSICKY AGENT HAVING TALKS WITH WENGER TOMOZ his contract runs at the end of season so i guess he might be off
Imagine Kenny doing what Wenger didn’t manage, win the Carling Cup when it was practically on a plate.
he has to be accepted by someone first, heard no interest on flappy.
i doubt chamakh could perform well enough to get a job in gay porn
$5K a day for gay porn.
better money on our bench really.
he might fail at the money shot.
5k?
really?
i would love it if MC won nothing and Nasri got the shaft. love it.
really.
$2K for regular.
as in regular, you mean women taking cock in the bum rather than men?
Haha Mourinho getting shafted again
2-0 Barca game over for Mourinho.
its just a shame i havent got a massive willy
cristiana isn’t far from mental breakdown
Lol lurch!
Been doing some research have ya?
Seem quite clueed up……