Good morning Grover’s, the hot news this morning is that Thomas Vermaelen is not injured and is available for the match on Saturday against our blind-ist friends down the road.
It’s always super having a player like that available… If they’re match sharp. I’m not too sure how comfortable I’d feel having a player who should be eased into action, being thrown into the deep end 4 days after his first full 90. He’s never played with Mertesacker or Santos before and I fear this might be a little early for him. Thomas disagrees.
“Personally I don’t believe in that [needing games to regain sharpness].
“If I come back from injury after a long time I don’t believe in coming back and getting rhythm.
“I think it is just in your head and a mental thing – if you are a football player you have to be there straight away.
“That’s why I wanted to play today and I think it’s good.
“It was a good game for us, we fought hard and it was a deserved win for us I think.”
“It was great to be back and to get time on the pitch.
“I felt fresh, I’m okay and am available for Saturday.”
Interesting Vermaelen doesn’t need games to be sharp, Wenger said you need 3 months or something along those lines last year. It’s somewhere in the middle if you ask me. Still, you have to say, a selection headache I’m sure the boss will relish… and the best news? He’s on for his 50 straight games. Number 2, here we come!
Colin Lewin reckons the stats say our injuries aren’t that bad.
‘There is a perception that we suffer a lot of injuries and it takes our players a long time to come back’
‘The evidence is different. We don’t suffer from more injuries, on average, than any other team. Of course it varies year on year. We are very open with our reporting of injuries and the last couple of years have been good with regard to numbers of injuries.’
Well Colin, it depends how you spin the stats. I did a piece a month (injuries) or so ago that conclusively proved that last season United kept their key players for 25% longer than ours. You could say our injury record was good if you weighted the fitness scores across all 920 professionals we have at the club but I’m not sure you’ll get much agreement suggesting we’re no worse off.
However, what has to be said is that last year, we did see a marked improvement on the year before. Is that down to GPS? Maybe…
Fabianski has said he’s willing to stay and fight it out with Chezzer. I think his chances are slim but one thing is for sure, he’s a helluva lot better than Almunia! Though I must note, the Spaniard pulled off some blinding saves against Brighton the other night!
Today is the AGM, it starts at 11, I’ll be twittering away so if you like the channel, may I suggest you get following?
Stan is apparently due to mumble some words. It’d be nice to know what direction the club is taking. It would also be nice to know if he’s going to bin the same old tired sustainable business model rhetoric. There’s nothing sustainable about fleecing the fans every season. It’s outrageous when you consider the club spent £3mill on lawyers fees ratifying Stans offer to buy the whole club. Not good use of ticket increase money of you ask me.
I’ll also be interested to see of PHW gets some stick. He’s had another year of boozy PR quotes that don’t sit too well with me or the other cretinous fans who help fund his massive pension pot.
Wenger will probably take to the mic and answer some questions like he normally does. I hope people don’t forget where we are as a club right now. A few wins don’t disguise the total lowering of expectation we’ve faced inside a summer.
Anyway, should be exciting regardless of how sanitised I fear it’ll be… Push comes to shove, I’m sure I’ll drink my weight in tea and I’ll defiantly bag myself a Arsenal bottle of mineral water which i’ll auction off tomorrow.
Right, see you in the comments, throw me some questions and I’ll see if I can get them answered!
P.S. Theo to Barcelona! Haha! Funniest rumour since the same paper linked Eboue there last year!
I know your point, but you asked why people would think that and the told you why. Plus it was discussed on talk sport and there was a genral opinion among ‘experts’ that Arsenal were in talks. Thats why people thought he was on his way(to us)
*they not the
Keyser: or maybe there
http://www.rmcsport.fr/editorial/176603/gervinho-jaurais-aime-que-nasri-reste/
I can only hope you check your sources.
Papers are paid to print crap in England.
A paper that would constantly write rubbish rumour in France, would end up like NOTW. at least they could give the integral interview.
goonermart – So you realise the deal was far from done though ? Even in hindsight, also considering the last few years did you really think he was definetly coming to us as in on his way over ?!
http://football-talk.co.uk/45943/arsene-wenger-is-disrespectful-to-the-fans/?
IvoryGoonz – Don’t get all uppity, the last was an honest question, where does it say Wenger lied ? Am I missing something, what’s the key line in the link you gave ?!
Good link Mark, they look like two very respectable guys to me. Couldn’t agree with them more.
Wenger shows nothing but contempt for the fans.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-Gervinho-claims-Samir-Nasri-persuaded-him-to-sign-by-promising-to-stay-at-club-this-season-article791458.html
Unless they are totally fake quotes Ivory, you are wrong. Nasri lied to Gervinho not Wenger
Keyser: which part of this don’t you get?
the deal wasnt far from done. agreeing a transfer fee with the selling club is 1/2 the job. the other 1/2, agreeing wage and fees with his agent.
anything else is ridiculously small in the balance.
IvoryGoonz – It’s more the idea it was a done deal and we fucked it up, which to me seems a bit stupid on the part of anyone who truly thinks that.
I don’t think it’s split 50-50 it’s weighted in the favour of the player.
Keyser- there is no way of measuring how close he was.
My point was not about how close or far away the deal was, just that you asked the question why people thought it and when that was answered you could not accept it. Thats all
But i do believe if we wanted him we could have had him if we didn’t dick around. But then again we do have a clown as manager
Keyser: the point is that all english papers used that article to do their crap lines. and Gervinho never said Nasri promised him he was staying in that article. period
60: just stay out of this beeeaccchhhh
Goon in 60 Seconds says:
October 20, 2011 at 12:08
Bade saying AW is “fucking up my beloved team” made me actually so angry I wanted to fuck something or someone up, and that is not a good feeling. I’m done 4 good with this.
Pedro I think you are excellent writer, thanks for some enjoyable times grovers.
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Goon = Complete and total Twat. Done for good? oh really?
goonermart – You’re being a pedant, say if my interpretation differs of what ‘Coming to us’ means, say if to me that means ‘Done deal’ does that clear it up ?!
I think it’s pretty obvious that the key decision nowadays is that of the player, not us, the selling team or our manager, if the player wants to come he’ll come, if he doesn’t he won’t.
Keyser: there are 2 parties to convince. that’s 50-50.
if you f* up negotiations with the agent after agreeing a fee with a club, then you really should think about retiring. In any other circumstances, any other club, this was a done deal.
IvoryGoonz – You’re basically saying they made it up ?!
Keyser: no, we are annoyed by your nit-picking, your refusal to look at the big picture and read between the lines… same old, same old.
people answer you, but you ignore their answers, and just play around.
to an extent people name you the WUM.
guess why?
IvoryGoonz – Heh, so basically if we tried to sell Cesc to any other club in the World apart from Barcelona the deal was half done no matter what he thought.
I really wanted to say you were talking complete shite in your last post, but I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.
IvoryGoonz – It’s not nit-picking, I’m too nice to call people a clown or other names and say they’re talking shit, because it’s open to mis-representation on here.
I don’t really care if you or whoever else calls me a WUM if you have a valid point I’d listen.
Keyser:
1) “You’re basically saying they made it up ?!”
Im not basically saying it, I just gave you the actual proof.
How many times can one say the same thing to someone before wanting to slap him/her?
I can give you even a better one, the actual interview on the radio station, as it happened, that should be the top result, on 25/08/2010 (6min22s) RMC : 25/08 – L’invité de Luis
http://www.rmc.fr/podcast/invite.php?actu=15
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nothing to do with it, but the guys on the radio were actually trying to push Gerv to say Wenger should buy for CL, including Hazard…
(the interview ends up with a joke saying Nas and Fab had to go because Wenger spent all the money on him …)
nothing at all about any talks between Nasri and Gerv. NOTHING.
Keyser says:
October 27, 2011 at 23:47
goonermart – You’re being a pedant, say if my interpretation differs of what ‘Coming to us’ means, say if to me that means ‘Done deal’ does that clear it up ?!
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No, I have no idea what that means. Plus I dont care about how far the deal was, just that you asked why people thought that and they gave you an answer, but you couldn’t except it, but thats just what you do anyway. No humility
If wenger had just done the decent thing and signed him we wouldn’t need to discuss your lack of humility.
Keyser: you do talk shit.
Keyser:
“Heh, so basically if we tried to sell Cesc to any other club in the World apart from Barcelona the deal was half done no matter what he thought.”
well, objectively speaking, yes. no matter what.
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“I really wanted to say you were talking complete shite in your last post, but I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.”
well Keyser, as you can see, you are the one who talked shit because you believed an english paper quoting an interview, that you didnt even listen to, and take it for granted.
YOU TALK SHIT.
goonermart – If you have no idea, then why are you bothering.
“If wenger had just done the decent thing and signed him we wouldn’t need to discuss your lack of humility.”
What if Mata simply didn’t want to come to us because Chelseas offer was better ?!
Goon, the fact that you show no respect for the two guys on the talk sport video shows you are the idiot. Those guys have probably been supporting Arsenal for more than 80 years between them. You on the other hand support Arsene. You are a scumbag
IvoryGoonz – Fuck that, then from now on I trust you’ll never use an English paper or it’s sources to back up an opinion.
John Cross talks shit then not me, though I still don’t trust your sources.
“Keyser:
“Heh, so basically if we tried to sell Cesc to any other club in the World apart from Barcelona the deal was half done no matter what he thought.”
well, objectively speaking, yes. no matter what.
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“I really wanted to say you were talking complete shite in your last post, but I’m trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.”
well Keyser, as you can see, you are the one who talked shit because you believed an english paper quoting an interview, that you didnt even listen to, and take it for granted.
YOU TALK SHIT.”
Also wtf has this got to do with the Gervinho interview, maybe the Mata stories weren’t true then either ?
Haha.. See give you enough rope and you hang yourself, you go round in circles until you upset yourself.
“well Keyser, as you can see, you are the one who talked shit because you believed an english paper quoting an interview, that you didnt even listen to, and take it for granted.
YOU TALK SHIT”
pretty sure the laws on quotes are stringent in England. It’s the sources that can be pulled fro thin air. English papers cannot just make random quotes up and get away with it like you seem to portray ivory
Keyser says:
October 27, 2011 at 23:47
goonermart – You’re being a pedant, say if my interpretation differs of what ‘Coming to us’ means, say if to me that means ‘Done deal’ does that clear it up ?!
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I have no idea what that post means, as you know. Generally I do have an idea.
Funny though that you asked people a question and then when they answered it you could not except it. So why do you bother?
60: how about you attack Keyser on his “its” rather than “it’s” or just shut the fuck up?
you just defend Keyser for the sake of it, one advice, just stay out of it?
Goon in 60 Seconds says:
October 20, 2011 at 12:08
Bade saying AW is “fucking up my beloved team” made me actually so angry I wanted to fuck something or someone up, and that is not a good feeling. I’m done 4 good with this.
Pedro I think you are excellent writer, thanks for some enjoyable times grovers.
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Goon = Complete and total Twat. Done for good? oh really?
IG. goon is Seriously mentally ill, he can’t help himself.
goonermart – Like I said maybe you mis-interpreted what I mean’t.
Either way if you haven’t learn’t by now that until you see a player in an Arsenal shirt playing for us, then it’s pretty much worthless.
“John Cross talks shit then not me, though I still don’t trust your sources.”
haha, you’re not even funny Keyser, just pathetic, worse than the Penguin or KingPin.
“Also wtf has this got to do with the Gervinho interview,”
That’s got everything to do with it idiot.
my sources are the actual SOURCE, Ze Gervinho interview on RMC sport…
WTF are you smoking shithead? you didnt even check that, and that proves my point even more, why dont you just stop f*g around, and pissing people off just for the sake of it?
Keyser- You asked a question, people answered, you could not except their answer even though you asked the question
IG- Keyser’s wife left him, he has no one left to piss of except you
IG- Keyser’s wife left him, he has no one left to piss off except you
goonermart – Think about it, I asked the question, if I choose not to accept their answer it’s upto me.
If you want to argue that the response was sufficient then fine, for me that article isn’t enough to convince me or to make me think Mata WAS coming to us, not might.
IvoryGoonz – You do realise you were discussing two different things right ?!
The Mata thing, and the Gervinho interview ? You do realise that right ?!
Yes i want to argue that their response was sufficient to your question, thats been my whole point. Why ask a question then vilify them when they answer you.
It’s obvious people will be influenced to different degrees by media.
I agree with you not to believe it until they are in the red and white,
but believe we could have got him before the chavs, if we wanted.
goonermart – Villify them ?! It’s a question ffs, I could’ve found the article if I really wanted but for me it’s not enough to convince me that he was on his way over.
“It’s obvious people will be influenced to different degrees by media.”
This is partly why I asked it in the first place, why does it take soo little to convince people.
“I agree with you not to believe it until they are in the red and white,
but believe we could have got him before the chavs, if we wanted.”
I disagree in that if it’s what Mata wanted, the final decision is his and that’s why I asked the question in the first place people still seem to think that we have enough control over our whole destiny that we can achieve anything regardless of what happens.
When Ballague tells you there’s a deadline to be met for a certain buy out clause to be met, it means fuck-all if the player doesn’t want to come.
Keyser: Im not the one mixing things up here.
If you do talk shit on Gerv, as you did, do you mind if I doubt you on Mata, and if I think I actually know better, whether about football, or contracts?
you do realise I already answered to you on Mata didnt you?
ok, let’s play your game then Keyser, because you just twist and turn… “coming to us” you translate for yourself “be here for sure”. in “coming to us”, there’s -ing at the end. I suggest you check what’s the reason for that present progressive form.
http://www.englisch-hilfen.de/en/grammar/pres_pro.htm
if that was sure he’d be there wouldnt he? read between the fucking lines and try to understand what he was actually saying.
“Heh, so basically if we tried to sell Cesc to any other club in the World apart from Barcelona the deal was half done no matter what he thought.”
-> again, objectively speaking, yes. no matter what.
I’ll insist on that, 50-50.
Now, we were talking about Mata, not Cesc, even Wenger admitted Cesc was a unique situation, why do you bring him in as an example? why is it now Barca for referential?
you’re worse than deluded, spin so bad even the Spin Doctors wouldnt hire you.
and then you come up with something like that? “Haha.. See give you enough rope and you hang yourself, you go round in circles until you upset yourself.”
you already put that rope around your own neck by arguing about how far how close we were to the deal, while both Goonermart and myself answered you as well the same thing, had it not been Wenger, but a manager willing to pay 10k-100k-1M more would have signed him even before Chelsea got interested.
and you do admit you were talking shit already on Gerv do you, finally?
You could have found the article for sure, but you asked why people believed mata would come to us and they told you.
Mata wanted to come we just fucked it up
ok, let’s play your game then Keyser, because you just twist and turn… “coming to us” you translate for yourself “be here for sure”.
Very good point IG
IvoryGoonz – This is why you’re a complete and utter plum, how was I talking shit ? I even asked you for your opinion ffs, it wasn’t an accusation it was a plea for whatever information you had.
Get this though what have you shown ? That Gervinho never said that ? Or that Gervinho never said it in interview with RMC or that he never said it a Specific interview with RMC, the one you linked ?!
Does it mean John Cross made a mistake, did he make it up ? Have all these papers and news outlets been relaying erroneous information ? Were they cited ? Did Gervinho deny he said it ? Did they retract the story ? What ?!
We’ve spent all this time going around in cicles and you haven’t shown me categorical proof of anything ? Is it there ?!
See, you do this to amuse yourself, or you’re oblivious to it, all you had to do was provide enough evidence and I’d have believed you, but you come across as overly smug and condescending when I can’t think of any reason you should have to be like that.
Also the Mata thing, it’s not 50-50, maybe you can twist that aswell, but I think you mean’t the decision is split 50-50 between the selling club and the player ? I’d disagree, Cesc is an extreme but it shows you how little choice a club can have if a player doesn’t agree, Tevez is another example, it’s weighted in favour or the player in today’s climate I don’t see how anyone could argue against that.
“You could have found the article for sure, but you asked why people believed mata would come to us and they told you.
Mata wanted to come we just fucked it up”
I think that’s rubbish, show me where.
Well time for bed, take it easy IvoryGoonz
Also I asked why he WAS coming to us, now why he would. IvoryGoonz didn’t have much of a point there, or he doesn’t know how to express it.
Keyser- http://www.arsenalinsider.com/ftk-blog-mata-transfer-to-arsenal-latest/
Have a read, you might find it interesting.
anyway really have to go to bed
you asked why people thought Mata was coming to us and they answered.
now why he would??
goonermart – Around in circles, I asked, I don’t think the answer was sufficient, and again playing your game, that articles not enough.
Nite.
Keyser: you’re the one who stated in your examples “or whether Fabregas lied like Nasri did to Gervinho.”
you take a rumour that has no ground for a fact. next time just avoid saying shit you dont even know like that.
that article from Cross was posted on 26/08/2011, just the day after the radio interview. if you actually read his article, he attributes all his quotes to RMC sport.
“I even asked you for your opinion ffs, it wasn’t an accusation it was a plea for whatever information you had.”
just to repeat what Goonermart said as it applies again, if you were really asking for our opinions, you’d at least try to know where we’re coming from, I gave you not only my opinion, but the actual answer with the real interview Gervinho gave on RMC sport. just check the podcast with Luis Fernandez if you dont trust me, where there’s no mention of such lie, at all, and you just dismiss it without even listening to it, while Im sorry, but I know Im right. John Cross attribute these quotes to Gerv, but he never said that. Period.
It’s not the first time John crosses the line though.
and on Mata, this is where Wenger fucked it up completely, although I’ll remind you again, he started fucking it up when a proper offer was not on the table in june or even earlier. anyway.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/wenger-rules-out-bringing-in-16320m-mata-2336707.html
!All he could say for definite was that Mata, the £20m-rated Spain international, will not be joining Arsenal. He said: “We will not do Juan Mata. I don’t have to give you a reason, I just said to you we will not do it.!
and on the 50-50, no that’s exactly how I meant it.
50=agreement club selling/club buying on fee
50=agreement club buying/agent of player on agent fee, player’s bonus and wages.
those are 2 distinct transactions, that acts as a whole. Hence a 50-50.
It was great to see Arsene’s speech at the AGM, he is an absolute inspiration and a great leader. It was warm to see the welcome that the crowd gave him, which is a sign that despite the team’s recent shortcomings, he is still the Man people place belief in, excepting some, of course.
Quick thoughts on the general financial outlook of the club-
First of all, I am totally against the idea of the club being funded by a sugar daddy, come on, we have got a class about us. The Uzbek Usmanov may be a very lucrative option, as claimed by many, to make available funds to the club like the Sheikhs have fuelled the blue half of Manchester. But how far that will be the case in reality, we don’t know! How much Usmanov will inject and how the funds will be injected, we don’t know! It may turn out to be good or very bad and there is so much uncertainty surrounding that concept, so that discussion does not carry any merit.
Stan seems to be a spectator in the business of the club. He seemed to have given the board and the manager a free hand in the operations and he seemed to be like a customer who has happily deposited his funds in a bank paying interest. And well, do we earn for our shareholders or what? I, personally, would like him to spearhead the club and lead from the front. Pour in his ideas and strategies, and define the vision and strategic direction of the club post the takeover, with the club officials and Arsene Wenger. He can help the club utilize the economies of being part of his group of companies. Plus, he can help us negotiate, renegotiate, explore and expand our commercial revenue deals. So far, I haven’t seen any leadership from him and for all the hype of his takeover, it is very disheartening. Just hope, that the future will change things and make this above observation wrong for the good.
There are certain areas which can help us boost our revenues and help us compete with the others reasonably well in the transfer market, other than the option of a sugar daddy. The club would have to take a few bold decisions in this regard. The following may help-
1) A Rights issue to write off the stadium debt and thereby clearing a chunk of interest cost. This can increase revenues on the short term and help us fund player transfers and also help retaining star players. This has its pros and cons, the ability to raise such a huge investment from the shareholders will be a very difficult task. This option can be looked into after studying the shareholders appetite for investment and this can be sold by guaranteeing on the field success and boost of revenues. Moreover, a debt free stadium can enable us to increase our cash credit facilities with the banks. This can give us effective short term liquidity which can be vital for the wage structure.
2) Renegotiate and rejuvenate the revenues in the commercial stream, tap into new avenues for growing revenues. TV Stream possibilities and Internet streaming of non-televised matches have to be explored. It is nice to know that the Asian markets can be tapped for shirt sales with our new players- Park and Ryo, but it will happen only if the world sees them performing.
3) Revamping the wage structure- This is a very delicate issue and can adversely impact the internal balance of the team and thereby the club. Revising players wages may affect the players mentally, for whom the wages have been lowered. The problem cannot be directly solved because the impact will be enormous, we have to go around the problem. Recently, we shelled out a lot of the players who were being paid wages beyond their performance, the payment over the odds for players has relatively come down, but there are many passengers like Diaby, Bendtner and Almunia, who are still on the books. Of those, Almunia is a write off, the other two are still prospects, till what time we will hold onto them is a question that only the future will determine. It was nice to know that the club even while facing adversity took a stringent stance in Arteta’s wage negotiation, eventually getting him on lower wages than he was paid at Everton. Major changes to this head cannot happen and I would not advise it too. The new players should be brought on at a reasonable pay packet, the renewals should happen at realistic performance based wages and the kids should be signed on professional deals at the lowest wages because at that age, the priority should be on playing and not earning for the kids. If the players snatch the opportunity and show us what they can do on the field, we can and should revise their wages and reward them not only with love but with money.
Discuss!
nite goonermart.
IvoryGoonz – Simply you need to get past whatever bullshit opinion you have of me and the retarded notion that calling someone an AKB is a valid form of argument. I know you haven’t done it here btw.
Forget how annoyed you get or ask yourself why you choose to pick on what I say.
Lets look at this :
“you take a rumour that has no ground for a fact. next time just avoid saying shit you dont even know like that.”
You haven’t offered any explanation of why Cross printed it, until you do how do I trust what you say as definitive ?!
“I can only hope you check your sources.
Papers are paid to print crap in England.
A paper that would constantly write rubbish rumour in France, would end up like NOTW. at least they could give the integral interview.”
Then you generalise like that off the back of it.
“but I know Im right. John Cross attribute these quotes to Gerv, but he never said that. Period.”
This is key how the fuck do you know you’re right if you can’t explain it ? You’re basically saying John Cross is wrong, who is at least a respected journalist without any knowledge of why John Cross would print something soo obviously wrong.
The Mata thing I respectfully disagree you simply can’t force a player to do what you want, yet the player can force his way out.
one thing for arsene:
after 15 years in the country, the best thing you can do is actually take a real english course and immerse yourself in British culture…
Keyser: that opinion is less and less bullshit and is reinforced everytime, but why did you even have to mention, btw…
you dont HAVE to trust what I say, that’s why I provided you the actual real source so you can check it, but it seems you cant. if you cant understand french, well, find a friend who will. but as far as I know, Im native french speaking, Cross and yourself aren’t, and I dont have an agenda against Nasri or against Gervinho, or even Cross, couldnt care less about him tbh, and I, contrary to Cross, provided you with the actual interview.
I’ll add to that that Gerv is a professional and he wouldnt slate a partner, and that he wanted to come to Arsenal long before Nasri played there.
I give you what Gerv actually said, which proves “respected journalist” Cross is lying, if you prefer to believe Cross, because he put his words between quotes, rather than listening to the audio track of the show, whatever man, your loss.
and on the matter of respected journalist, just look the comment section on his article, and you’ll know what I mean.
“You haven’t offered any explanation of why Cross printed it, until you do how do I trust what you say as definitive ?!”
oh so now, I have to explain why he did it on top of proving him wrong? who am I? God or something? maybe you want me to do a transcripted-translated version of the interview approved by the international translator association? well, if you really want, I could, my mother is actually working for them… or maybe do a hypnosis session on Cross to reveal his darker motives or where he picked his rumour from and why he made up those quotes? how about a crystal ball? -> maybe he was just given the job, he couldnt be bothered getting someone to translate it properly, and just made things up or maybe you could get a teacher ?
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=157177&page=4
on cross, this is how bad he can predict…
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/john-cross/Arsenal-won-t-sell-Cesc-Fabregas-to-Barcelona-for-35m-and-could-even-keep-him-for-another-season-John-Cross-column-article731654.html
at least I dont transform facts.
“Keyser: that opinion is less and less bullshit and is reinforced everytime, but why did you even have to mention, btw…”
Because you fall foul of many of the same things you accuse me of.
“oh so now, I have to explain why he did it on top of proving him wrong? who am I? God or something?”
No, you’re someone who’s accusing a journalist who writes for a National newspaper (think it’s National) of lying or being paid to write crap. The burden of proof lies with you.
morning..
Keyser:
OK, once and for all, let’s do this, if you quote something do it properly, and include the actual question.
Here’s the bit that Cross quotes from the interview about Nasri.
“I wanted to play with Samir because he is a big player. His exit has left me in pain.
“He promised to be there this season – and then changed his mind. Samir and Cesc have left for new challenges but I wanted the chance to play with them.
“This is a different Arsenal. A new team without Nasri and Cesc. But we need to forget that and to turn the page. Now we must only think about the future.”
at 5:15
RMC: Pas trop decu que Nasri soit parti? Gervinho, c’est pas grave?
> not too deceived that Nasri is gone? not too serious?
Gerv: Moi j’aurai voulu jouer avec Sami et Cesc donc parce que c’est des bon joueurs et on a chance a jouer a cote des bons joueurs et j’ai pas eu la chance la, c’est vraiment dommage, et voila, et apres j’pense que ils sont partis dans des grands clubs, tenter aussi la chance ailleurs et moi j’leur souhaite bonne chance dommage de pas avoir l’occasion de jouer avec eux.
>Me I’d have wanted to play with Sami and Cesc, because they are good players, and you are lucky when you play next to good players, and I didnt have that luck there, it’s a shame and that’s it, after, I think they’re gone to great clubs, try their luck elsewhere, and me, I wish them good luck, shame to not have had the occasion to play with them
RMC: tu sais pourquoi ils sont partis Gervinho? parceque Arsenal a du mettre le paquet sur toi, tu coutes trop cher et qu’il fallait vendre Nasri, Cesc Fabregas pour qu’on puisse te laisser tranquille maintenant la-bas, t’es bon toi.
Merci Gervinho en tout cas, et bravo et felicitations pour ton debut de saison et que ca continue comme ca, et fais nous plaisir, parceque tu nous fais plaisir quand t’es sur un terrain. A bientot Gervinho
>You know why they left Gervinho? Because Arsenal had to go all-in on you, you’re too expensive, and it was needed to sell Nasri, Cesc, so that people can leave you alone over there, you’re good you.
Thanks Gervinho, and in any case, “bravo” and congratulations for you start of the season and may it continue like that, please us, because you please us when you’re on the pitch. See you soon Gervinho
Gervinho: Merci, A bientot.
>Thanks, See you soon
RMC: Ciao
>Ciao
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now im going to sleep. nuff said
and the reason why cross fucked up you want to know why?
here it is:
because he used an online translator to translate “dommage” and it gave him this:
“nm. harm, damage; shame, pity, hurt; decay, blighter, havoc ”
he translated that into “pain” and made up the rest of the sentence.
while it’s an expression “c’est dommage” which is translated:
“interj. it’s a pity”
a simple translation mistake, but a bad one.
now whoever he is, I don’t care, a journalist actually pick up his phone and calls Gervinho. a bad reporter gets a transcript, auto-translate it, and publish it, without even actually understanding what is said or not said…
Finally, I dont pretend to be a journalist.
now am I allowed to say I Am God?
to add to the translation, “c’est dommage” can be translated “it’s a pity”, “it’s a shame”, “it’s sad”, but that gains too much solemnity in the translation…
more like “it’s sad but I’ll survive”
joel campbell scored a nice goal and won a pen in the cup game for lorient
Morning chaps,
I got battered yesterday in a poker game…. what the fuck? couldn’t get even one decent hand it was a shame
Any way, I wake up and read this quotes from Arsene, on Arsene.com, regarding Arshavin:
“I believe that he is more at ease now in a more central role because if he is on the flanks it is very physical and you have to defend a lot,” the manager told Arsenal Player. “That’s not always his strongest part in the game.
“You can see that in the future he can be a very influential player behind the striker.”
Arsene,Good morning! Wake up! he was playing Central before you wasted him on the flanks…. He’s 30 so how much “Future” does he really have with us???
What a joke of a manager
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