So he said half the team wanted to leave, but when asked what the reasons for that were, he said it was all about money, as Man City have won nothing recently (aside from the FA Cup that we last won 6 years ago)
Interesting logic that Arsene, and if that were true, and assuming it is then why if half the team wanted out, did you let our best player and indeed your poster boy leave on the cheap, oh and with three years left on his contract?
And not forgetting the Barca board thought that hilarious, they laughed at the stupid price you sold him for, how is that putting Arsenal first? How did our board sanction that one?
Boy even the most ardent AKB will have trouble with that deal, sometimes Wenger needs to think before he comes out with these astonishing statements.
So if he knew, and he clearly did by this latest statement, then why did he not go out and buy the quality we needed and offload the crap we don’t?
Surely after knowing he was losing Cesc, Nasri, Eboue and Clichy he didn’t think he could replace them with Arteta, Park, Jenkinson, and Yossi Benayoun? Gervinho for Bendtner and Mertesacker were fine, but really, the rest?
Now I like Arteta but he’s no Cesc, Gibbs and Santos can’t fill in for Clichy especially as we all knew he wasn’t (Clichy) good enough in the first place, but Yossi Benayoun for Nasri? He really is deluded if he thinks that will do it.
We were asking for experience like Parker to help the kids, not average old crocks at the end of their careers, more babies and a far eastern money spinner.
The reason that half the team want out is because they want to win trophies and they are fed up with the failure to make top signings, this summer proved that, now look at what you rewarded the players like RVP with that stayed.
Yes Man City haven’t won much but it won’t be long, why? Well because they are buying mainly world class players, anyone can see that, well almost anyone, Wenger aside that is.
The way this team is playing will see the other half wanting out next summer and then the manager will jump ship and all the AKB’s will ask us if we are now happy scrapping around in the lower half of the division.
Well wake the hell up, that’s where we are now boys, beating Sunderland was lucky, apart from the first 25 seconds we were woeful, wait till we play Stoke, or worse. Then we’ll see about the top four. This club needs a change, Wenger has lost his way and if he doesn’t do something in January, then our decline will continue and by then the horse will have bolted and the stable gate will take years to shut…
This club rewards mediocrity, Gazidas got a massive bonus last year and anyone that runs a business will ask how that works, what was his bonus for? We need leadership off the pitch before we get it on the pitch and we need a manager that manages, not one that feels he is the spokesman on how a club should be run as a self-sustaining model.
We buy Park and yet we don’t see him play, it’s now October and I think since he joined us he’s scored 6 for Korea and yet barely made a cameo appearance in the Carling Cup for Arsenal, what is that all about? If he’s good enough then play him, if he’s not, then why the hell did we buy him and ruin any chance of signing Hazard? Give him a go, let’s see, God knows we need a goal scorer, if he is rubbish then get looking now and prepare for a big spend in January.
We should have replaced Cesc and Nasri with Hazard and Mata, we didn’t, we still have time to do something equally impactful, maybe Goetze and Hazard, but seeing Yossi Benayoun and Squillaci trotting out will do nothing more than put bigger holes in the stadium, I know Kroenke, Hill-Wood and Gazidas tow the Wenger line, but even that trio cannot be so blind as to ignore the fact the fans are not coming anymore, wake up you mugs, before it’s too late, wake up!
Enjoy the day Grovers, tomorrow we play the group leaders, that will be fun, maybe we’ll see Park at last and realise what we’re missing!








fuck
Bayern conceded for the first time since August 7th.
now that might help city’s cause.
whats the score for bayern?
Rossi Man-marked closely.
the fox will manage a goal.
£10 on it.
city’s was a defending fluke, dzeko big miss, not sure who’s gonna provide the goals for city, unless Mancini make some changes…
still 0-0 for Man U away at “whatever”
1-1 napoli-bayern
I hope Napoli win. There’s no way City can pip Bayern to the qualifiying spot.
looks like villareal doesnt commit too many players forward, replace quickly…
*reposition
yaya’s washed
how can they not see he’s offside?
they just try it anyway in case the ref and the linesman don’t watch?
Benzema is having a great game against Lyon (1 goal + 1 assist). I wish he could play for us.
guissepe rossi my number 3 choice of striker we should have bought.
Its all kicking off in the united game. Pen/goal/red card
milner for nasri
get off nasri you ponce
we need to win our group to avoid bayern barce and madrid
2 easy games vs marseille should do it
yep, really like that de guzman, smart player
3-1 win tomorrow, 6-2 at home
good times
WTF is that stuff they are throwing at the Villa players
Haha i like the optimism incesc!
Just watching the City v Villereal game….so why wasnt Aguero booked for taking a shot after the whistle? Fucking shit UEFA Barcelona biased cunts.
Dial Square – It’s those little balls of tissue paper you get from the box of a new pair of trainers.
LeMassiveCoq: because he passed it to the keeper?
Ivory…it looked like he was trying to curl it in to me :/ Who cares, RVP should never of got sent off against Barca is my point…
Besides I would love to see these Manc chav cunts on Channel 5 in the new year…
LMC: crystal clear
2 penalties for Utd… and they looked shit.. No creativity…Fucking nothing…Yet the media is not going to mention it…
come on, send the city fans crying home
damnit
2-1 Aguero
Bollocks
Lucky fuckers!!!!!
Cunts. Absolute cunts
I hate that Greasy wop cunt in his stupid scarf.
fucking lucky cunts…
Still can’t see them getting anything in Napoli and hopefully Bayern hand them their asses again. City for Europe all day long.
Manure won too. Bad times
Nasri the smug twat!
edgehog 1 geco 0
In the end thats what quality gets you.
Europa even
what is eastmond doing back at the club?
its a bit unfair on man citeh the group they got
groups F and G have no decent sides in them at all and group A has bayern, napoli and citeh
frenchie,
waiting patiently for his contract extension and a payrise
incesc: and that is so so sad
LOL Squillaci playing for the reserves and getting trounced on. I can’t believe we have still have the bag of shit on £50k a week as well. Disgraceful.
50k per seems about right for that ninny, no?
These smug cunts are acting like they’ve gone through. Newbies.
sounds about right yeah
Doumbia.
told you about him.
we need him
badly.
haha i read squid was looking very bad in the reserves tonight
incesc-
a wise man once said: the more things change, the more they stay the same.
fucking squid.
it is sad ivory
IG-
how many goals did he get for cska, tonight?
incesc: that’s Fifa’s enforced FFP for you
frenchie: 2
that young man is a 1.3-1.5 goals per game.
its wenger enforced pile of shitness
that too
ivory you must have seen a lot of gervinho
does he have enough in him to be a top top winger in time?
think he looks pretty good at the moment considering hes come into a new and fairly bad team but i can never imagine him as effective as a pires or overmars.
the eboue comparisons are obviously a mile off though gervinho looks a lot better than that
last season, 4 CL games, 7 goals
only reason he didnt break internationaly to the first Ivorian regular team is because Drogba keeps him on the bench.
hes not a regular for the ivory coast?
not even on the wing?
incesc: he already is a top winger. but a right winger.
as long as we dont train set pieces properly, and don’t use Chamakh, Mertesacker, VP’s heads, or that there is an equal threat on the other side, he will spend his energy for nothing.
He’s got no problem finding the goals with Ivory Coast.
Walcott should be on the left and learn patiently that side too as well as through the center to be as good as Henry, before pretending to be a complete forward, and he doesn’t seem to learn as quick as Thierry.
Gervinho,
You know he has a massive head but everytime he gets subbed off and the camera’s go in…your like whoooaaaaaaaa….
Ivory why not drop Theo put gerv on the right and arsh on the left.
Ivory
Thierry was pants at Walcotts age. Thats why he was sold.
maybe arshavin on the left and gervinho on the right?
too easy??
incesc: I meant that for Doumbia. For me it’s him we should buy and get rid of Park. Park can’t play even 20 games a season. what’s the point having him for 2 seasons apart boosting our shirt sales in Asia? seriously? and honestly, there are better ways to do that… Gerv is already established in the first team, and contribute a lot, but as well, he;s got players like Drogba to whom he can cross..
as well, Gerv likes to cut inside, but to me it looks like Rice forced him to stop doing that.
Ivory, Rice stopped him cutting inside? I don’t think Pat would do that.
Ayme Jacquet new it better than any other french coach, including wenger, to win, you need players to know each other and learn each other’s skills and frailties. Not only pass the ball to each other.
Seems Theo has now started completing Gerv’s work a bit more and not feel as threatened as he used to.. but I still think Wenger needs to start Gerv on the right and eventually switch them second half if they cant break in…
and again, that will only work with 2 strikers upfront, having VP, Chamakh, and Doumbia, would let us swap any of them upfront when one needs a rest, and completing with Walcott from time to time to give him some game time as striker as well, and give Miyaichi/Chamberlain game time too…
kwik fit: I think he would, he’s very rigid in matter of tactics, and a traditional winger stick to the touch line, always. I’ve seen him switch position with Walcott a few times, but not really run at the defense until he was level with the opposition box.
Just seen pikey cunts dive for Manures second..FFS. What a load of shit , should of been booked.
Rice is ruthless, if he wants Gerv to stop cutting in, Gerv will stop cutting in.
Who did Gervinho have the best understanding with ? and was it the kind of understanding where he’d play the sort of pass he played to Van Persie each time ?!
Miyachi
Fack.
I completely forgot about that kid,
Maybe Ivory but I think Gerv is at his most dangerous when he takes the fullback on the outside and then cuts in.
Arshavin? in my book, I sold him for £15M to Man City.
Kwik: then he doesnt have the time to get in position and shoot.
if both your wingers cut inside regularly, the defence cant predict where it’s gonna come from. As soon as you stick to that touchline, you need a much better target man than VP or Chamakh to beat the keeper on a cross. It’s still doable, but you lose a lot of energy, and we would really need another player like Doumbia, and get let B52 to Real Madrid.
Keyser: for Lille, it was obviously Hazard. For Ivory Coast, it’s Kalou and Drogba
Keyser: maybe not each time, but most of the time.
I’d say that’s all he needs, he needs to work off of someone that’s going to be able to play the ball so he can wrongfoot and use his pace past the defence.
Hazard must of had a far better understanding than either of Drogba or Kalou ?!
He doesn’t need to switch sides though it could help, Wilshere on his side would be enough, on the other Walcott’s going to learn a lot slower.
just saw the Real goals, what a humiliation for Lyon.
Keyser: he played week in week out with Hazard, so yeah, they got to know each other better, quicker.
with national squad it’s rather intermittent, and injuries affect the squad more often, with Drogba’s malaria it didnt help either.
I’d love to have Hazard, but I think it might be too late now, wage wise and fee wise / wenger+the board.
unless the reason why we brought Park is to give him to Lille in exchange for Hazard.
I think Kalou would not be enough on long term, and Miyaichi will need a couple of years before being able to play full games week in week out.
Hazard or Bastos for me.
my priority list for Arsene this winter:
Van der Wiel
Doumbia
Bastos
and for the summer:
Willian
Fernandinho
Vertonghen
Rosicky, Arshavin, Squilacci, Denilson, Diaby, Park – out
job done.
Critics
and for tomorrow, please, 2 DMs to start.
Keyser: “, on the other Walcott’s going to learn a lot slower.”
on the overall, true, he’ll learn less than being purely played as a right winger, but the objective is not to make him the best winger, but to make him a better striker.
learning the ways of the left side – which I think he can do pretty quick, (less than a season) as he knows all the basis of being a winger, he’ll actually learn what he’s lacking to pass both sides of a player at ease.
Once he can do that, either he can make play as a pure poacher or get him to learn the ways of the middle to make him a complete forward who will know where to be, when to be. rest is up to him.
If VP leaves, which he would do next summer, or worst case in couple of years, at least he’ll have learned something to help his cause taking that spot.
good evening 9icekbee
Who posted that shit analysis with pictorial to Prove how shit Koscielny is? Those pictures just dismantled any facts on that blog, the full backs clearly put the players on, what a shit analysis, talk about clutching and straws.
Team for OM I’d like to see considering injuries/bench:
——————–Szczesny—————
——–Koscielny-Mertesacker-Song—
————-Frimpong-Coquelin———-
Gervinho———–Arteta——-Walcott
————-Chamakh-Van Persie——–
probable team:
——————–Szczesny——————–
Jenkinson-Mertesacker-Koscielny-Santos
———–Arteta—Song—Benayoun——–
——Walcott———————Gervinho—-
——————Van Persie——————–
wheres that dale?
Dale: that was mostly a wind up I believe…
Benayoun/Ramsey. not too sure on that one
here incesc…
http://www.oohtobeagooner.com/clear-evidence-that-koscielny-is-just-not-good-enough-for-arsenal/
yeah totally agree with all of that
kocielny is very poor, add his shit positioning to his non existant physicality and its no wonder we have gone to the dogs
Honestly incesc you are soo American.
bastard
thats low keyser!
what it tells me is that Kosc is too quick, and he should slow down a bit. take the time to look around him.
(and learn german)
Jawohl!
that said i would prefer koz at right back for the next couple of months.
Looks like Vermaelen’s injury is the same on both achilles..
“It is a little tendon called plantaris that pushes on you, but only 25 per cent of the population has [it] … that pushes on your Achilles tendon.
“The only difference is that for the first injury, it took us a while to find the real source. The injury has only been discovered 18 months ago.”
IvoryGoonz – Learning the ways of the left ? What do you mean ?!
There’s little things that show intelligence and to be honest Gervinho and Walcott don’t show enough. Gervinho has a far better chance though.
Van Persie didn’t do too much against Sunderland but 2-3 times he showed that it doesn’t matter how quick or strong you are if you think quicker than other players you can make the most of it.
Wenger usually looks for things like that in players so hopefully they’ve both got something else to offer or can progress, but Walcott’s learn’t very slowly.
OPG: and what was the source? the shoes ?…?
Is “learning the ways of the left” a euphemism for something?
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-Thomas-Vermaelen-new-contract-shows-there-will-be-no-exodus-of-stars-says-Arsene-Wenger-article815041.html
Wenger added: “There’s no medical reason why he should not play 50 games on the trot now. I always was a bit suspicious – why should that happen only on one side? I thought at some stage the other side will come as well, and it did.
“This (contract) shows how much we trust him. We think it’s a genetic accident what he had, because he had it on both sides, exactly the same injury.
Keyser: I mean learn how the right back and the right CB work and find the best ways to pass them, get in position either to cross, to shoot, or to pass, all that from the left side.
Gerv is a winger and will remain a winger for the foreseeable future, at least until Chamberlain is ready…
For Walcott, it was pure pace, and basic finishing/dribbling skills
He should be training his free-kicks and time his runs rather than writing books. anyway. hope he progress better.
it was more built aroud the way of the middle which is buddhist
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_way
Ivory Goonz – His runs are actually pretty good, right now we lack the players to find him the ball and pull his strings so hopefully that’ll improve but the last stage for any striker to go through is to learn to make things for himself.
People say Henry when they think of Walcott or used to, I think he’ll end up more like Anelka, except Anelka had Bergkamp, and at 22 maybe we’re expecting too much.
Van Persie may not go on to be the best player ever, but he’s learn’t to adapt several things about his game over the years, hopefully he stays fit now.
to learn how to do a clean cut cross, you need to learn how your team mate will receive it, and how he likes to receive them…
to be an effective striker, you dont obligatorily need pace, and quick-thinking. you need to be AWARE. That’s something you ignore Theo. Look a bit earlier at your team mates, dont rush too quick, unless it’s to score it own your own.
Walcott has Van Persie.
Van Persie injured is still better than a Rooney.
Van Persie a whole season fit is godly.
Ideally I’d keep VP until he retires, and make him a scout then a coach. pure quality. Please stay Robin, we need you.
But we aint playing with 2 strikers upfront at the moment, and we’d need still be short of one man on the left.
*on your own
Theo, you can be as good as Henry if you want, and if you work hard, and always think as a team. Get on with it. Be an example. You showed glimpses last season. time to shine.
(and you should go to sleep
)
me too btw. nite nite Grovers/Grovettes
Learning the ways of the left ???
Is he going to become workshy and stop washing ??
Why are we talking to Theo like he’s here?
MatthewT: in theory yes, he should, the austerity path. Then he’ll truely understand the middle way.
Rohan: Because you never know who might be reading
yup you got me, I’m really theo walcott in disguise.
The problem with Theo has little to do with learning…he just hasn’t got enough natural ability. I’d say he has learned quite a lot to be starting for Arsenal and England. He’s learned enough to know how to notch up his stats!
If you combine natural ability to learning you get RvP or Wilshere.
Learning with little natural ability you get Theo.
Gervinho has got more ability on the ball he is just inconsistent in his decision making. Also, you have to cut him some slack for being a newbie!
—– “He really is deluded if he thinks that will do it.”…WHO THINKS HE IS NOT??? —– FEW, JUST A FEW OF THE REMAINING AKBs COULD THINK OTHERWISE. BUT FOR THAT MINORITY, IS IT WORTH WRITING THIS ARTICLE?
@ PEDRO AND GEOFF, CAN YOU PLEASE GET OVER WENGER NOW? CAN WE STOP DISCUSSING HIM AND SEND A CRISP MESSAGE THAT HE IS NOT WORTHY OF ANY MORE DISCUSSIONS EVEN?
COULD WE DISCUSS WHOM ARSENAL SHOULD GET AS THE NEXT MANAGER WHO COULD PULL THE TEAM OUT OF ABYSS BY 2014????????????
There is no doubt Wenger lost the dressing room last season cause he couldn’t turn it around he was abusing water bottles, it did get to him in the end to a extent but not quite enough. The board at the same time there is a disconnect cause of their lack of urgency for the club on the footballing side, we are having our expectations lowered as it is being fed all these excuses and spin.
He said he should take the blame not the players in the summer as he is the one who put so much faith in the squad last season, he can be overprotective but those 3 dismal months why couldn’t he rally the players apart from the United game in May?
Does it matter who wanted to leave or how many when we had many who let the team down?
Only Cesc and Nasri really affected us while they struggled to get rid of some players all summer who were being paid good wages, a few seemed to be in his plans as they took part in the tour and pre-season. Bendtner and Denilson are still our problems in the future cause they are still contracted for longer than next summer and the likes of Squillaci etc are still very much around for the moment.
At the end of the day it is Wenger’s job to act quickly in the transfer market so we can secure our most sought targets which would boost the club after last season and have a settled squad asap knowing the tough fixture list early on, too much of the summer was taken up by uncertainty especially reading ‘Will Cesc and Nasri go or stay’ got frustrating.
Looks like Almunia and Lansbury @ West Ham lost but when did what’s Papa Bouba Diop doing there?
I find you will find AW is toeing the board line
passionandpride says
” COULD WE DISCUSS WHOM ARSENAL SHOULD GET AS THE NEXT MANAGER WHO COULD PULL THE TEAM OUT OF ABYSS BY 2014????????????
why? The board has a business model & they are sticking with it. The manager/coach will abide by the board rules
Change manager for no change. Situation hopeless
this is a great post, hint of desperation coupled with the fact we have been playing so poorly and missing those player we sold.. mixed with the hard cold truth… WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its october and we are witnesinng the fall of a used-to-be great club.. i miss fabregas. there i said it
this is a great post, hint of desperation coupled with the fact we have been playing so poorly and missing those player we sold.. mixed with the hard cold truth… WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its october and we are witnesinng the fall of a used-to-be great club.. i miss fabregas. there i said it
last night Henry Winter thrown out of City Stadium pressroom’This is for VIPs & you are ONLY a journalist’ said official
——————————————————
he deserves it that arsenal hating cunt
great read this
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/france-adores-arsene-wenger-2372397.html
Morning people,
So Mancs will advance….. I just hope they’ll do it from second place not first….
Barca the same, they might end 2nd in their group, otherwise AC Milan fuck up, or lose at their home soil to the cunts…..
So after all maybe it’s better to finish second eh? still If we can we have to finish 1st…..
We must not lose this one, we have to draw. I don’t want to talk about win, as it’s far from our reach, but hey the boys allowed to give us a good surprise once….
Holy fucking shit, when was the last time this happened –
Dear Member,
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Olympiacos FC v Arsenal FC
UEFA Champions League Group Stage
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Date: Tuesday 6th December, 2011
Kick Off: 19:45 (UK)
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So, even our much vaunted away support are not taking up their full allocation then…….
The warning signs are there for everyone to see, except of course Wenger and his cronies……
Nothing’s wrong, everything is rosy, full steam ahead in planet-rip-off-the-loyal-supporters aka the self-sustaining business fucking model……
DDM – that is very desperate, if they were desperate to strength the team last summer …………….. he
abnet – I’m not even a member of the away supporters or travellers club!!!
I’m actually just a Gold Member, Season Ticket holder……
NEW POST!